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Mainstream media finally fed up with White House stonewalling on classified docs

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Mainstream media finally fed up with White House stonewalling on classified docs

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January 19, 2023 1:20 pm

The Biden administration is facing a scandal over classified documents found in the Penn Biden Center, while Al Gore's climate change warnings are being questioned. Meanwhile, Alec Baldwin has been charged with involuntary manslaughter in the Rust shooting, and the immigration crisis continues to worsen. In other news, Ukraine is preparing for a potential Russian offensive, and the White House is under scrutiny for its handling of classified information.

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From the Fox News Radio Studios in Midtown Manhattan, it's the fastest growing radio talk show. Brian Killmead. Hi, everyone. Welcome to the latest moments of the Brian Killmeat Show.

So glad you're here all week long. We have Kellyanne Conway at the bottom of the hour. As we saw the recent poll that Trump has a slight lead over Governor DeSantis, I know it's so early, but the fact is, with all the controversy surrounding the former president, for him to still be the frontrunner is stunning. Usually, one mistake, you're done. The president's always saying stuff that you would think that would destroy other candidates, but it just doesn't seem to happen.

We also know, too, this is the biggest crisis currently that the current president has ever been through. We know today the State Department will brief. Um The State Department will have a press availability. We'll see what that means for what's happening in Davos and what's happening with Ukraine. And we all know the president's going to be out in California seeing about the damage through all those rains and all those floods.

He'll see it up close and personal. If it's like the border, he'll probably only go to the areas which is not affected by the floods and just talk to people that once lived there.

So let's get to the big three.

Now with the stories you need to know, it's Brian's big three, sponsored by Crunch Fitness. Interested in owning your own business in a growing $30 billion industry? Check out CrunchFitness at Crunch.com. Number three. There's clearly been an effort to bring down the standards for our students in Virginia to stop celebrating excellence, and this is counter to everything we believe.

Governor Glenn Young's stunning what's happening in New Lowe. Dozens of students in Virginia were secretly denied earned merit scholarships and more in the name of equity. There's outrage everywhere. And there's 17 separate schools in three separate counties in Virginia that did the same thing. Are we to believe it hasn't happened in other parts of the country?

Certainly not. Number two. The accumulated amount is now trapping as much extra heat as would be released by 600,000 Hiroshima class atomic bombs exploding every single day on the Earth. That's what's boiling the oceans and the rain bombs. Spoiling the ocean rain bombs Hiroshima, what's wrong with Al Gore?

Davos, full of anger and arrogance, as they try and set the course for America and the world. What was said, and why we all should be embarrassed to say John Kerry and Al Gore speak for us. Number one. I am going to refer you to my white the White House counsel. I am going to refer you to Department of Just of Department of Justice.

I would refer you to Department of Justice. No, you would have to go to the Department of Justice. And I would refer you to the Department of Justice. Ugh, what an embarrassment. Karine Jean-Pierre, not just us, other media outlets also fed up with the clumsy, insulting deflections on Biden's document story.

And more photos emerge showing how careless Biden felt with them, all clearly exposed to former hooker enthusiast and now former crack user Hunter Biden. Pictures of Hunter driving around in the classic Corvette, which we know was located in the garage where there were top secret documents. We don't know what those documents are, but we know this looks really bad.

So the Washington Post has a story today. It looks as though the administration's trying to get some facts out as they see them. It turns out this Kathy Chung. Seems to be falling on her sword. As attention focuses on the documents they write, documents path from the Vice President's office to the Penn, Biden Center.

Biden's longtime executive assistant, Kathy Chung, has confided to associates that she is distressed that she might have inadvertently been involved in moving or storing the classified material, fall on your sword. But the problem is, Chung had no Contact with the garage where another 10 documents were founded, or the other rooms in which they were located. The whole scenario is still hard to figure out. But I think a lot of media outlets are getting really frustrated, and they actually want to get answers, especially in light of what happened in Mar-a-Lago with the classified documents and the raid on Mar-a-Lago, where they got 300 classified documents. President said, I just collected the folders, the former president, which is kind of interesting.

Here is Karine Jean-Pierre not answering anything ever, cut one. Help us understand, given the frequency with which President Biden works in Delaware. What is the case against having visitor logs?

So I am going to refer you to the White House Council. I am going to refer you to Department of Justice. I would refer you to Department of Justice. And any questions that you may have of us, I would refer you to my colleagues at the White House Council Office. No, you would have to go to the Department of Justice.

And I would refer you to the Department of Justice. Yeah. And they called the Department of Justice, and the Department of Justice goes, Yeah, I have no answers. Plus, I didn't tell the administration not to comment on the case. I didn't put any handcuffs on them.

Simply not the case.

So listen to some of the exchanges that have been happening with other reporters. I mean, we ask direct questions, no matter who's in there, whoever a reporter is, it's always been the way. Direct questions to both sides. You asked John Roberts, how good a job did he do with President Trump? In fact, President Trump got mad at him quite often.

It just so happens that's the way it is when you got to ask direct questions. I think that makes everybody better, I would think. Listen to some of the conversation. Cut three. Do you think it was proper for President Biden to comment on an ongoing DOJ investigation?

So I'm going to say this, and I'm going to keep it really short today, as it relates to this particular issue, as it relates to an ongoing legal matter, I'm going to refer you to Department of Justice. With that specific, as it relates to anything that you want to ask of us about this legal matter, I would refer you to the White House Counsel office. I'm going to leave it there. Not going to go into further. I'm simply asking you to comment.

I just commented. I just commented. We're moving on. Go ahead. Go ahead.

Go ahead. Go ahead. Go ahead. No, go ahead. I already answered your question.

Go ahead. Well. I did.

Well, it's your opinion. It's your opinion. It's your opinion. That is your opinion. Go ahead.

Go ahead. Go ahead. Yeah, it's your opinion. It's your opinion. You just heard it.

She doesn't answer any questions. I don't think she's making the effort to find out even what to say to allow people to complete their stories.

So they have these three, four reporters who put together this story in the Washington Post. I think it's significant. What happened? What made them go to the office that day when the University of Pennsylvania didn't say clean out the office? Why, in the middle of a term, would you say, I got to go over in November, I got to go over and get the Biden documents out?

So one of the President's personal attorneys, as we know now, his name is Pat Moore, went over to the U.S. Capitol, so near the went over to the ten-story building, right near the U.S. Capitol. It was looked at as they nicknamed it the front seat of power on a Wednesday last November. We know it was November 2nd.

Pat Moore went through a large cause in and found nothing out of the ordinary. A person familiar with the matter, speaking on the condition of anonymity to discussions on the investigation.

So they're looking to get this story out. Then he tackled a smaller closet. Notice they didn't say it's locked. Finding it stuffed with folders, boxes, and other political memorabilia, including documents related to Bo's funeral, drafts of political speeches, and boxes of personal books. But next, Moore made a surprising discovery: a folder with cover sheet saying contained secret government documents.

Moore immediately called another attorney and notified the White House Counsel's Office, which in turn contacted the archives, going to two people familiar with this.

So they got a ton of sources, three separate reporters. But if the way they found the classified documents was out of the ordinary, because we still don't buy it, by the way, those are my words. Biden's lawyers were determined to be sticklers for the rules once it happened. These are their words. Those first decisions inside the airy office complex at the Penn Center.

And they give the address. A Northwest launched a 71-day push by the Biden team's federal archivist and the Justice Department to make sense of the startling discovery. It culminated in Merrick Garland's decision. To everyone's disgust inside the White House. to have a special counsel.

Interviews with people directly involved in the discovery and the subsequent fallout provided new details. And an effort to handle the crisis created the intersection of politics, intelligence and law. Republicans and other critics say the White House was at minimum slow to seek the truth and level with the public. Biden's aides say they were simply proceeding cautiously in a sensitive time. Really?

Sensitive time. That's right before the election. Mid-November, communication has not previously been reported. This is new. A senior official in the Justice Department, National Security Division, wrote a letter to Bob Bauer, Biden's personal attorney, asking for his cooperation with the department's inquiry.

The Justice Department asked specifically that Biden's legal team secure the materials from the Biden Center and refrain from further reviewing any other relevant arguments that might be stored at different locations. The Justice Department also requests that Bauer, given the Justice Department's formal consent to review the materials, he provide a list of other locations where relevant material might be located. Hence the garage. Here's James Clyburn trying to minimize this old discovery cut for. I think all of us are concerned.

about this uh the president has expressed They're concerned about the handling of this as well. I don't think that any one of us believe that he packed up his boxes himself. To move out of his office. And as you know, I just left my whip office. A lot of boxes were packed up.

I think I may have packed one of them.

So you have no idea. uh who may have put what In what boxes? But I assume Congressman Clyburn. That you did not have any top secret information. If you did, that's a story, whether you did or not.

That's a story. And he also gave a warning yesterday to stop any Democrats who think the President might be vulnerable to run against him. He said the President should run for another four years, and he's got his backing. Keep that in mind, Gavin Newsom.

So, in a letter with an implication that the Justice Department would take The letter said the Justice Department would take the lead in the inquiry, pave the way for Biden's team approach. They adopted a strategy of caution and deference, making only limited moves in coordination with federal investigators. They would determine the number of documents involved, their significance, and how they were mishandled. They hoped they could earn the trust of the investigators, avoid comparisons of former President Trump, who's under federal investigation for doing the same exact thing, by the way. Instead, it yielded a political firestorm and repeated accusations of obfuscation, and instead of a speedy resolution, they now face a special probe.

Why? Because fundamentally, there's no good way to do this. Tell the public For some reason that we haven't been able to surmise yet, that we have classified documents. In Biden's midst, whether it's his garage, his former office, or the main part of the house. That's the only way to do it.

And bottom line is, you can have a soft landing because you're supposed to tell the public, or else they're going to find out. by themselves. We don't know everything. I don't think we have close to all the documents. One of his houses didn't have any.

The other one they found on Saturday, and they found five documents on Saturday. They found 10 in the garage. Which is Unbelievable, inexplainable. When I come back, I'm going to talk about Davos, talk about the fallout here, get some other perspective on why this is not going away. And what do you think?

Why do you think the other members of the press that have all the controversial things that happen, out of the new news that Old for us. That the laptop was real, the Biden fil the Biden family business, the way the brothers are trading on their dad's name, the way their son was doing the same exact thing. Why is everyone interested now? I'll tell you what. Uh Congressman Gates.

Alone with guys like Joe Rogan? And others are saying, wait a second, the timing right before he's about to double reelection. It's no coincidence. I'm not going to go that far. Because everything that they've discovered Nothing's planted.

Nothing synthetic. It's just discovery of things that have always been disturbing. You listen to the Brian Kill Me show, so glad you're here. It's Brian Kilmade. From the Fox News Podcasts Network.

I'm Ben Dominich, Fox News contributor and editor of the Transom.com daily newsletter. And I'm inviting you to join a conversation every week. It's the Ben Dominich Podcast. Subscribe and listen now by going to FoxNewsPodcasts.com. He's so busy, he'll make your head spin.

It's Brian Killmead. If we treat this... In the in the for the challenge that it really is, almost like World War II. We're going to move this. Because that's the only way we keep 1.5 degrees alive.

So how do we get there?

Well, the lesson I've learned in the last years And I learned it as secretary and I've learned it since, reinforced in spades. is money, money, money, money, money, money, money. Yeah, right. In your pocket, pocket, pocket. Billionaires talking about to billionaires about the need to save Earth.

We don't need you. We got this. Al Gore, totally out of control. Listen to some of Al Gore. Everything this guy put in his movie that got him his Emmy is in 300 million.

He left office. He was worth $2 million. He's worth $300 million. Tell me what he's doing to help planet Earth cut 10. Emissions are still going up.

All these promises of the last few years to cut emissions, emissions are still going up. When are we going to bring these emissions down? The accumulated amount is now trapping as much extra heat as would be released by 600,000 Hiroshima-Class atomic bombs exploding every single day on the Earth. That's what's boiling the oceans, creating these atmospheric rivers and the rain bombs and sucking the moisture out of the land and creating the droughts and melting the ice and raising the sea level and causing these waves of climate refugees. We cannot let the oil companies and gas companies and petro states tell us.

What is permissible? Exactly. As I get in my private plane and fill up with some of the oil and gas, the jet fuel, give it to me by those horrible gas and oil companies. Listen, Al Gore, you're out of your mind. The oceans are not boiling.

We are not burning up. The North Pole has not de-iced, like you claimed. 1977, the headline was surviving the ice age. Then it was of surviving global warming. When the globe stopped warming at the level that you pledged, all of a sudden it's now climate change.

So every time the wind blows, a tornado hits, it's because we have a Buick Skylark. That's the problem. Al Gore is out of his mind and angrier than ever. You would think now that he's a single guy with $300 million with multiple houses without the ball and chain of politics or elections to worry about, he'd be a little bit happier. But he's not.

Here is Mike Schoenberger, and then I'll get to the phone calls. Cut 14. It's a creepy event. I mean, these are people that claim to be wanting transparency and openness, but as we discovered this week in our reporting earlier, they hide their own finances both for the World Economic Forum and for the Klaus Schwab Foundation. It shouldn't be lost on people that this is a group based in Switzerland, which has the most restrictive banking rules, allowing for people, including criminal syndicates, to hide their wealth.

It's a greenwashing exercise that consists of people flying in by private jet. Promoting insect eating. Yes, it's true, it's not a conspiracy. Promoting insect eating rather than meat eating to the masses, telling poor countries they shouldn't use fossil fuels while they fly private jets everywhere. I mean, it's really a litmus test for who are the worst people in the world.

Tom, what's on the Fox News Radio app? Tom, you're in Boston. Hey guys, how are you? Good. We're telling you mine.

Thanks for taking the call. I uh I completely agree with you. I'm ashamed to be from the same state that um John Kerry's from Complete lunatic. I would just say that as far as the southern border goes, wondering why we don't spend more time. talking about where these people are coming from, Guatemala, Honduras, Nicaragua, why can't we as a country or as a Western civilization go to these places and make them more politically stable so people don't want to leave?

Because they're beautiful places. And and um 'cause years ago they weren't people coming to the southern border as, you know, in the in the numbers that they are now. And I feel like, you know, we could do a better job of one of the reasons they're doing it is 'cause they know they could stay. And this is always going to be a better place in Ecuador, Nicaragua, Venezuela, El Salvador, Honduras. It's always going to be better to be in America.

And when you're told you get here, you get an NGO to give you a nice gift basket, then you can go to any hotel and the best cities in the world, you're going to go. And then you're going to sacrifice your savings in order to give it a cartel because they could probably execute the deal. Bill, what's on WHIO and Dayton? Hey, Bill. How you doing, Brian?

What's on your mind? I just, you know, we keep talking about this, you know, thing with Biden right now with the documents, but I think what we're missing is why is nobody talking about, you know, the professor, the fake professor that he was given, you know, that title. He never spoke there. He was paying $48,000. He had a free house for $48,000 a month.

All the money that was funneling through there, you know, this is all done from endowments from an unknown China person. Why are we not looking at that? Why is that not the story? It's going to get there. I mean, you just stood up.

Hey, Bill, they just stood up the investigations. They don't want to overpromise. I don't think they should. They're just getting this information. We don't know what the documents say, but eventually we will.

Remember, you got about 15 whistleblowers come forward and talk about how politicized this is. That stuff's going to be key. Killian Conway next. Information you want, truth you demand. This is the Brian Killmee Show.

I think the exact opposite. Donald Trump has nothing to do right now, right? And in part because he has no one to shoot at. He has no opponent. That's right.

So who wants to be the first one in the pool? to be the one who's the target. I think this is going to be a hang around the rim enterprise. Everyone's going to be waiting to see which way the rebound goes and whether they want to grab it or they don't want to grab it. And I think to go in early.

Huge political strategic mistake. In January 28th, I understand, the former President of the United States will officially kick off with a campaign event, which will have Governor Henry McMaster and Lindsey Graham as his captains in South Carolina. Kellyanne Conway, very tapped into all sides, all things, former senior counsel to President Trump and author of the book, Here's the Deal. Kelly Ann, what do you think about what Governor Christie said? Does that, from the opponent's perspective, is he right?

He's 100% right, Brian. Thanks for having me today. I've actually had that conversation with Governor Christie. I think President Trump felt he had to announce early to show his base, but also a number of independents who clearly are not satisfied with the direction of the nation and the Biden administration's policies, that he, Donald Trump, would be willing to engage in a cage match rematch against Biden. Others can wait.

If you're Governor DeSantis, you just got reelected, or Governor Reynolds in Iowa, or Governor Abbott, Governor McGrath, they all got reelected with these massive margins. And they can wait. They can have their legislative sessions and then Sort of, you know, suss out what's going on. But I'm not sure that that hurts Donald Trump. I'm not sure that it helps him or hurts him.

I actually think he's doing better in recent polling than people who have written him off would admit. And at the same time, you know, I know Donald Trump very well, and he's also told me that, hey, you know, it used to be at 85, 90% in Republicans, a little lower now. I like that a little better, meaning he loves a fight, he loves the competition. Right now, Brian, with just six short months to go before the first presidential debate. In Milwaukee, the only person who's announced is Donald Trump.

I mean, right now, if you had a debate, they'd be asking in two three two scoops or three scoops. of ice cream stir and what's your favorite color.

So someone's going to have to step up and oppose them, not just donors wish wishing for it, not just we in the T V or poll polling business insisting that it's going to happen. But someone's going to have to step up and qualify to be in these debates. But I agree, people can wait. And I think that folks who aren't going to be able to raise the kind of money that a Trump or a DeSantis or a few others can raise, they're going to have to do something creative. And that's what the debate stage allows them to do.

I heard a lot of big donors are holding out for more for DeSantis. Would you say that? I also see the President's upset that the evangelicals leaders have not endorsed him yet. He thinks they're being totally disloyal. Can you bring reality to that?

Sure, I can understand the feeling from the President that he feels folks that he had embraced and engaged and invited to the White House to actually show the country, to show the world transparently and with accountability, Brian, that he was putting policies into practice. That they appreciated religious liberty, school choice, obviously his entire pro-life agenda, all the judges, including three to the United States Supreme Court. I mean, he made good on those promises. And I think the president looks at endorsements as a way for folks to show appreciation, but also to show a seriousness of purpose in getting rid of Biden and Harris, which really is the name of the game. Donors have a way of always looking for the next big thing.

I think nobody knows that better than Chris Christie. He was practically begged by some of the biggest donors in the Republican and conservative movement when he had only been on the job for about a year and a half, Brian. And DeSantis has a little bit more time under his belt, but donors don't pick the nominees. We don't pick the nominees, the voters do. And I, for one, don't like robbing people of their voice and their choice.

I think competition, as we just saw with the speakers race, I think competition is healthy for the party that says it's for competition.

So it was very interesting that Mike Pompeo, by the way, the president wrote a letter to Facebook saying it's been a year, put me back on. And then Twitter, when they said come back on, he said, no, I'm going to keep my powder dry. Facebook is necessary. He used Facebook, and you would know better than anybody, in 2016 and 2020 pretty effectively, right? Yeah.

We did, Brian. And I have to say, even looking back in 2016 where we were under-resourced and understaffed, being able to post a lot of information, but also just to buy ads. on Google, on YouTube, on Facebook, made the difference. We rolled the dice and we did something a serious presidential campaign had never done, which is we committed half of our resources, roughly half of our resources to traditional television ads. And another half to online ads.

It was one of those cases of necessity is the mother of invention because we didn't have the same resources as Hillary, but it paid off. And I think most people are not watching television ads. They're on Netflix, they're on Apple TV, they're watching stuff on their phone, as you know. They're streaming. And so this was a smart, this was a smart risk.

It paid off. And I think for the president to say, put me back on Facebook. I think Meta, the new, they're going to have to look at that very seriously given that people they do allow on Facebook and a lot of the disinformation from the left that's there.

Now, it's different on Twitter, because I think Elon Musk taking over Twitter. He's really changed the dynamic there. People feel like it's a much more equitable and fair platform now, not just the liberal left-wing cesspool.

However, you know, the president has a commercial interest in Truth Social. That's his, he's making money from Truth Social, and so that's probably a consideration for him also. There's a story out today. Mike Pompeo's book is out, and he comes out on Tuesday, I should say, and evidently trashes Nikki Haley. He claims behind the scenes, Nikki Haley was scheming with Jared Kushner.

Uh to replace Mike Pence. Do you know anything about this? I sure do. That is true that there were people trying to get rid of Mike Pence off the ticket beginning in like twenty eighteen or so. It's such a fool's errand in so many ways.

And I do just wish that Ambassador Haley Uh, had been more strong and more public, more resolute and more public, just saying, Please don't talk about that. We have so much work to do here at the UN, where she was the ambassador for less than two years. Um, and I wish she had just said that, and also it would have been such a mistake to try to replace Mike Pence on the ticket. I used to tell President Trump when these rumors were circulating, when a friend of his placed an op-ed in the Wall Street Journal about it, much to my surprise. Brian, I told the president straight on, you know, who will punish you for that if you get rid of Mike Pence on the ticket?

Women, because we women, we're used to being replaced by other women. We're not, women are not going to like that at all, Mr. President. Um, but I also thought it was so naive from some of the political novices, uh, like Jarrett Kushner that I worked with in the White House, to actually think, well, let's just get rid of the vice president that that was the other, was the other half of the ticket. That frankly, Brian helped bring a lot to the table as somebody who had strong ties to the evangelical movement, who had been in Congress for 12 years, eight or 10 years of which on the Foreign Affairs Committee, I believe, and had been governor of Indiana.

He brought so much to that ticket. When you have a winning ticket, you stick with it. This whole idea, let's just get a woman, get a woman, get a woman. You know who did that? One Joe Biden did that.

He sat on like a frat boy at the end of a keg party in the fraternity. I need a woman, I need a woman. And look what we got for it. Goodness, Kamala Harris.

So I'm glad Secretary Pompeo has said this. And he's a, listen, that is a great American. He's got an unbelievable, wonderful American story. And I wouldn't be surprised if he runs and if he reminds everybody that we had a Secretary of State. While all these great things were happening, Soleimani, Baghdadi, the Abraham Accords, that other staffers try to take credit for.

So yeah, Mike Pompeo looks like he's going to throw in there. He says, regarding Haley, who publishes a book, too, he said, Pompeo disparages both the role of the UN ambassador, a job that is far less important than people think, close quote. She has described her role as going toe-to-toe with tyrants. If so, then why would she quit such an important job at an important time? You want to weigh in?

It's an excellent question. No, I do want to weigh in because it actually I actually took pieces of that out of my book because my book was so long. But I did have a piece in there about Ambassador Haley leaving in October of 2018 and making sure she sat in the yellow chair in the Oval Office, which was reserved for heads of state. Usually, I'm sitting next to the president by the fireplace. Everybody has seen it many times.

She wanted to make sure that the MAGA base knew she was leaving on good terms. But here's what I never understood: you don't leave a job like that if there's still work to do. She went, she was making 200 grand a speech that she wrote a book. That's her right, I suppose.

Well, definitely it's her right. But I did think she left a little too early, and before many of those big, big Um, we felt big wins for this country and globally and domestically have happened. I also think I can't help but think because he's brilliant, Secretary Pompeo has taken a little shot at John Bolton by calling into question the job of the um of the UN ambassador, because, of course, that's a job he had before he was national security advisor and, of course, um, successful author. Uh, so yeah, I look, and and I, Secretary Pompeo, because he is a humble person. I just don't think that he, you know, ironically, he's gotten his due from all the great things that happened in the Trump administration.

I mean, Jared Krishna has taken credit, some of the ambassadors took credit, and certainly, I guess, he believes that Nikki Haley took credit also. But I think, look, Brian, this gives you a nice preview of how Rock could have. A lot of these people, you're really good friends. They are my friends. I'm so happy that they served.

And listen, we need them all back in some capacity. There's no question about that. Don't count out, as my op-ed in the New York Times said last week, don't count out Donald Trump. Here are his vulnerabilities and his obstacles to his self-sabotage, and here are his opportunities. And one of them is that if one person runs against Donald Trump for president, the only announced candidate right now, Brian, if one runs against him, I think five or six will.

And then he's going to stand there and watch them attack each other. The idea is that you'd only be attacking Trump, that'll get old quickly. You could just, gosh, you could read social media all day or turn on one of those underperforming cable stations to watch constant attacks on Donald Trump. You don't need a presidential primary. But I think they want to be attacking each other.

Yeah, I do. I look forward to hearing the debate because I've never heard Mike Pompeo say anything negative about Trump on or off Mike. Uh or camera. And he's going to have to, with it, with respect, say, listen, this is what I would have done different. This is what I would have done.

I actually thought Nikki Haley was unbelievable during all the Russia hoax.

Some people are saying, well, you know, look at Wolda there. I thought she was extremely strong against North Korea. She was very smart to negotiate direct line to. Yeah, and Israel, yeah. I thought she was a real competent, so I think she'll be formidable.

But she did say, I will not run against Donald Trump. Is she going to go back on that? Yes, she already changed her mind. She gave an interview. I saw her.

I know, I was probably 20 feet away from her at the Republican Jewish Coalition in November. We were both speakers there. And this Saturday, I was the lunch speaker on Saturday, Ari Fleischer interviewed me. And at night, the two speakers were Nikki Haley and Rhonda Santos.

So I watched them both 20 feet away from me. And she did make very clear to that audience with the press in the room, it was open press, Brian, that she is seriously considering it. She's looking at it.

So that was seen as going back on her initial promise. Also, you know, we women in positions of of authority, it's very important that we not be Hamlets. Very important that we not play into these stereotypes of of being indecisive, because it comes back to bite us more than men. I'll just say that, as a generality. And so first she attacked Donald Trump on January 7th, right after January 6th, she said he could never run again.

He shouldn't be in the party. And then she went back on that, tried to have a meeting with him. He said no. And now she said, I'll never run against him.

Now she said she will.

So I think whatever she decides, and I believe she probably is looking at this race very seriously, I think whatever she decides. And I like her very much. I'm glad she served. We have a great relationship. We share her birthday.

Whatever she decides, I think the other angle for Nikki Haley and a Tim Scott, for example, her fellow South Carolinian, is that they want to bring to the presidential level, Brian, all these amazing gains in gender and racial diversity that the Republicans have realized very recently, including these 2022 and 2020, 2022 midterms, and 2020 at the House level, particularly. She's got a great story to tell. But, you know, we've been seeing more candidates of color, more female candidates, more veterans, for example, running as Republicans and succeeding as Republicans. And I think the argument is to be made: hey, it's time at the presidential level. Also, people will immediately compare her to Conala Harris, which, of course, is going to go much better for Nikki Haley.

And the one thing the president has, and no one can argue this, he's an immediately lame duck. First time since Grover, Cleveland. He'll immediately be a lame duck.

So that would be something that you could say, hey, I love President Trump, but I don't think we should elect a lame duck. And therefore, Trump can't say, How dare you attack me? He'll just be going with, Well, that's the fact. Real quick, on the other side, your assessment. Clyburn's getting nervous.

He came out and said, Let's make it clear: Joe Biden should be the nominee. I urge him to declare right away and said, If you want to run against him, keep in mind Ted Kennedy tried that with Jimmy Carter and it hurt the party, and Kennedy lost. Do you think that it's Biden's nomination to decide whether he wants it or not? Yes, I do. I think that all this ridiculous spin about the 2022 midterms being great for Joe Biden.

Um, has has kept them has kept him cemented as the odds-on-favorite to be the nominator, kind of stuck with him now. And the irony, Brian, is the only reason you can credibly say the midterms were quote great for Joe Biden is because Joe Biden was sidelined. He was the racing candidates wanted him to campaign with them, they sent him to Union Station. That's not a swing state or a blue, red, or purple district, it's a train depot. And so, when Biden and Harris's names are on the ballot next year, Biden and Harris must go and campaign, so it's going to be fundamentally different.

But what a chairman, Congressman Clyburn, is saying also is he's warning other Democrats. He's basically saying to them, Look, I'm the guy, and we have to give him this credit. I'm the guy who got Biden the nomination because Biden was bleeding out really in these early contests and went to South Carolina with Clyburn's endorsement and won South Carolina. But he's basically telling Khloe Buchar and Sanders, Bernie Sanders, and Elizabeth Warren, others, Gavin Newsom, don't pull any cute stuff. We need a clear path for.

Joe Biden, I think they're stuck with him. And they keep making excuses for him, and now they're stuck with his this bi this big growing scandalagre around the documents handling. Very interesting. Kellyanne Conway, stay in the analyst role, and she knows every side so well. It's Kellyanne Conway.

Thanks so much. A real pleasure, Brian. Thank you. You got it. 1866-408-7669.

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Sorry about that, but I do have time for your calls. This is the Brian Kill Meet Show. Newsmakers and Newsbreakers, here at first on The Brian Kill Meet Show. From his mouth to your ears, it's Brian Killmead. We're used to seeing Bengals quarterback Joe Burrow wearing his number nine on the field on Sundays, but he showed up to his news conference yesterday in a number eight jersey, and all the reporters there immediately asked him, what was going on?

I guess I put the wrong one on.

Well, so what happened was I forgot about the press conference and so I also have new pants on and so I threw my jersey back on but apparently it wasn't my jersey. All right. Cincinnati's better get their act together. They're going to beat the Bills. They're going to try to do the game that was stopped because of DeMar's collapse on the field.

Thankfully, he'll be on the sideline.

So it'll be Buffalo against Cincinnati this weekend. There's Joe Burrow with Cincinnati Bengals talking about wearing the wrong jerseys. That's kind of funny. Just real life human beings. Get this.

Press being treated like human beings. Tom Brady saluted them. We know you had a long season. We know you have a tough job. And now you have Joe Burrows talking to them like human beings.

They're not used to that. I wonder how they can handle that. 1-866-408-7669. We talked about Davos. Did I tell you about this?

Can you imagine winning a merit scholarship and not being notified for 50,000 people in Virginia through 17 separate schools? That was the case because this big push among superintendents and possibly principals and teachers to make sure these merit scholarships aren't handed out because they want equity, not equity, they want everyone to be equal. And even the smart people that put in that extra time might be naturally gifted or just want to not play sports, not hang out with friends, just study. They awarded this. They were never informed.

They went on to college or about to get the money. They don't get it. Seventeen separate schools.

Now the governor's got to come out and pass a law that makes it illegal not to tell a kid that he's got a merit scholarship. Do you believe it's come to this? And do you think for a second it's just stopped here? This the seeds to this type of mindset. Began when people got rid of class rank.

To me, class rank is a great way to know how a student is compared to his classmates or her classmates, depending on how good or tough that school was. Then you have the SATs.

Well, let's get rid of the SATs.

Now get rid of the merit scholarships and now tell everyone if you're Asian, make sure that they don't get in because too many Asians are in Ivy League schools. That's why they sued to get rid of affirmative action. Brian Kill Me Chill. From high atop Fox News headquarters in New York City, always seeking solutions, never sowing division. It's Brian Kilmead.

From 40th and 6th in Midtown Manhattan, this is the Brian Kill Me Show. Yep, heard around the country, heard around the world. A lot going on today, and we're continuing to cover it. We know within an hour, we'll find out about the fate of Alec Boulder if he's going to be indicted or others for the shooting of the cinematographer on the Rust set. There's not going to be a big press conference, just an announcement that's happening.

It's up to the New Mexico Attorney General, I imagine. This hour going to join by Mark Thiessen standing by and Dan Bilak from Ukraine. He's helping raise money and he's part of that government. They lost their interior ministry yesterday in a helicopter crash. We don't think the Russians were involved in that.

Zelensky did bring up during his address to Davos. He doesn't know if Vladimir Putin's alive or dead. You know, there is rumor the guy's got cancer. He does not look good, we know that for sure. Uh let's hope he's dead, but I heard the next person could be worse.

So let's get to the big three.

Now, with the stories you need to know, it's Brian's big three. Number three. There's clearly been an effort to bring down the standards for our students in Virginia to stop celebrating excellence, and this has countered everything we believe. No kidding. New low.

Dozens of students in Virginia were secretly denied earned merit scholarships and more and more in the name of equity. There's outrage everywhere, but it's happening outside Virginia and outside their 17 separate schools. The answer is sadly yes. Number two. The accumulated amount is now trapping as much extra heat as would be released by 600,000 Hiroshima-class atomic bombs exploding every single day on the Earth.

That's what's boiling the oceans and the rain bombs. Boiling the oceans. Al Gore, are you out of your mind? The answer yes. Davos, full of anger and arrogance as they try and set the course for America and the world.

What was said and why we all should be embarrassed to say John Kerry and Al Gore speaks for us. Number I am going to refer you to the White House counsel. I am going to refer you to the Department of Justice. I would refer you to Department of Justice. No, you would have to go to the Department of Justice.

And I would refer you to the Department of Justice. Not just us. Other media outlets are all fed up with a clumsy, insulting deflection of Biden's document story. And more photos emerge showing how careless Biden felt with them, all clearly exposed to. A hooker enthusiast, Hunter Biden, and his crack addiction.

We see the pictures, it tells the story. Let's bring in Mark Thiessen, The Washington Post, Foxnews.com. Mark, welcome. How big is this document story? And what do you think of the story in The Washington Post today saying they've handled everything perfectly and the press is blowing out of proportion?

Yeah, it sounds like they were trying so hard to follow the rules and just and then it backfired on them. Give me a break. I mean, first of all, they they intentionally misled the American people.

So these documents were found in the Penn Biden Center. On November 2nd, which was six days before the election, they were running a campaign. an anti MAGA campaign that was highlighting Donald Trump's having classified documents in his Mar a Lago home to show that the he and his followers were unfit for office, yet they didn't tell the American people that they had effectively done the same thing.

So that's lie number one. Then they found more documents on December 10th. And Bid it it leaks in Janu early January. Biden's in Mexico. He a he's asked about the documents in the Penn Biden Center.

And doesn't admit that there had been more documents found in his home that had to leak out.

So it's been coming by drips and drafts. And then the other thing that they haven't been upfront about is the Penn Biden Center opened. On February 8th, 2018. Joe Biden left office on January 20th, 2017. Where were the documents?

between and and and for more than a year. Before the Penn Biden Center opened, they said that he opened, the Post reported today that he had a 12,000 square foot office house that he rented out as an office in McLean. What was the security there? Were they there? Where were they?

So, there's so many unanswered questions. And the idea that Corrine Jean-Pierre. Can't Well, she can't put together a sentence, but can't say something so simple as a Of course it was a mistake. Anytime you have classified documents that are not in a secure compartmented facility, especially top secret documents, somebody made an error. And the president is upset about it.

He didn't know about it, but he has instructed us to cooperate with the Justice Department and get to the bottom of it. That's what we're going to do.

So here's the spark. We're going to solve all of her problems. Right. I mean, at the very least, if she is not clear to say that, then don't go out. Because, yeah, I mean, we remember so many times press secretaries to say, no briefing today.

That's it. We went six months without a briefing, I think a year without a briefing for President Trump because he didn't think he was being treated fairly. His press secretary was being treated fairly. Little do we know she was going to turn on Melania and the president and become a CNN contributor. Here's Corrine.

Who isn't? Here's Corrine Jean-Pierre sparring with an NBC reporter. Cut two. We've all reached out to the Department of Justice. A law enforcement official tells NBC News the Justice Department has not told the White House that it cannot talk about the facts underlying the special counsel investigation into classified documents.

So trusting you've received that same information, understanding the desire to be prudent, then why can't you speak about the underlying facts? We've been very clear when it comes to even underlying facts, when it comes to specifics, when it comes to something that is under the purview that the Department of Justice is looking at, especially legal matters, investigations, we do not comment from here, Peter. Unbelievable, right? I mean, but I think that's a good idea. she's so bad at her job.

I mean, truly, she's like the she's the worst White House Press Secretary I've ever seen. I mean, it's just so simple. You know, it's the same mistake they made when Biden didn't visit the border for two years, right? And so every day they get asked: when is Biden going to visit the border? Why won't he go to the border?

Why is he visiting the border? Just go to the freaking border, and then you can say he went to the border. It's the same thing here. Make a statement. Deliver a statement.

You can figure out something you can say with, like, look, this is the we the president didn't know these documents. I'm talking as if I was a, I could do this job for her better than she does it herself. I could be a Biden spokesman. The president didn't know these documents were in the Penn Biden Center or in his home. He was very upset when he found out about it.

He takes classified documents, the handling of classified documents extremely seriously. It was obviously a mistake for those documents to not be in a secure compartmented facility and secure conditions. And he has instructed us to cooperate with the Justice Department in every aspect of this investigation. And we will continue to do that. And then anytime somebody asks her that question, say that instead of, I'm not going to comment, I'm not going to comment, I'm not going to comment.

Until the garage. Communications 101. But then the garage changes.

Some version of the same thing. It's like it shouldn't be in the garage, shouldn't have been in the Penn Biden Center. We acknowledge that fact. We're cooperating. We're going to get to the bottom of how they got there.

And there's a special counsel been appointed. And I'll refer you for more details to them. We'll have the White House Council brief you. And then every time somebody asks that statement, the president was very upset to find out about this. He didn't know.

But it was wrong for those documents to be there. We're going to find out how they got there. And so say that over and over again. Say that. Washington Post can Washington Post started.

We don't know what made him go to the office to clean it out because the University of Pennsylvania said we didn't ask him to clean out his office. Why are you cleaning out his office?

So we know this. They even, in trying to explain this story, the Washington Post, Matt Viser, Tyler Pager, Carol Lenong, and some other unpronounceable reporter all worked on this story on what happened that brought them to the University of Pennsylvania to clean out this office. And basically, it says, One of the president's personal attorneys entered the luxury 10-story office building. You didn't tell us why. And when they go in there, it's attorney Pat Moore.

And he starts looking at a large closet, found nothing. A person familiar with the matter said, speak on the condition of anonymity. That means they want to get the story out. Said, then he tackled a smaller closet, finding it stuffed with folders, boxes, and other political memorabilia, including documents related to Bo's funeral, drafts of political speeches, and boxes of personal books. But next, Moore found a surprising discovery: a folder with a cover sheet saying it contained secret government documents.

Moore immediately called another attorney and notified the White House counsel, and we started.

So, no one knows what they didn't say. Locked closet. Because I don't think the closet was locked. And that's going to add to how many people came back and forth through there. And then we don't even.

don't even know what was actually in the in the paperwork that could tell a story. But you wrote a column because everyone wants to compare this to Trump. Trump had over three hundred documents, they say. Trump came out yesterday and said most of them were empty folders. I like the color of the folders.

But you talk about something that we know was in there, a letter from Kim Jong-un. You say Trump declassified those letters. How do you know? Yeah. So, first, on your on the previous point you made, I don't think you're being fair to Biden because any I just had my closet cleaned up the other day and I hired a lawyer to do it.

You did? Everybody has a lawyer. Everybody has a lawyer to clean out their closets. It's what we normally do. Why you send a freaking insurance to clean out your closet?

Right. Why would they send a lawyer to clean out the closet if they weren't because my surgeon was busy? Exactly. My doctor was busy. My neurosurgeon wasn't available, so I had my lawyer do it.

I mean, of course, every American hires a lawyer to clean their closets.

So, yeah, right, please. But yeah, on Trump.

So, first of all, Hundreds of documents, including top secret documents, shouldn't have been there.

Okay, starting at that. But two of the documents that people talk about are these letters that he received from Kim Jong-un, which discussed the nuclear issues and that this issue was highly classified. And they, as evidence, they cite the fact that when he was president, he showed them to Bob Woodward. In the Oval Office, and that this is proof. And he said, now, these are really super top secret, Bob, so be very careful with these.

And so they say that's proof that he knew they were secret. No, it's proof that he declassified them. The President of the United States can't leak. Under the he has ultimate classification and declassification authority. He doesn't have to follow any rules.

He doesn't have to follow executive orders because he wrote the executive orders so he can make exceptions to them.

So if he wants to make something unclassified, he has full authority to do that. How does he do that? I had this experience with him when I interviewed him in the Oval Office, and he revealed to me a top-secret covert operation in which he acknowledged that he had done it, in which he launched a cyber attack on the Russian troll farm that had interfered in the 2016 election and was trying to do so again in 2018. That was a top-secret covert operation. When he told me that, he didn't leak it.

He declassified it because the president can't leak. If he shares something with a Washington Post columnist, it is therefore declassified once he did that. Same thing with the Woodward documents. By showing them to a Washington Post reporter, they're no longer classified because he has given them to the media. He's given to one of the most famous reporters in the country.

So at least those and he and he didn't give Woodward, he chose not to give Woodward his replies to the letters because he said those were too classified. That probably included a lot of information that he didn't want to get out, but the letters from Kim, he did.

So those letters he declassified. And so therefore, if those were found in Mar-a-Lago, he's got proof that he did that.

Now, there's no evidence to say that the other hundreds of documents he declassified while he was president. He says he didn't, but there's nothing contemporaneous to show that. And he lost his declassification authority on january twentieth at noon when he left the White House.

So we don't know about the rest of the documents, but at least those two, which everyone's held up as being the nuclear secrets, That he had sitting around in Mar-a-Lago, those were clearly declassified while he was President of the United States.

So we know this. It looks like the chief of staff, his long-term assistant Karen Chung, says that she feels terrible that she might have been responsible for the records. Chung had worked on Capitol Hill and was recommended actually by Hunter. Chung had confided in associates that she is distressed that she might have inadvertently been involved in the moving of stored classified material at the center of this whole thing. And by the way, she has sat down for an interview.

The administration wants this to go away. They'll get it to go away if we don't, you know, shut if we shut down the government. Or if something else big happens. What do you think? How do you think this administration makes this the third story, the fifth story, or the 20th story?

So first of all, hanging out the executive assistant is really low class. You know, but the the reality is, is that if she was able to take top secret documents and put them in a folder that went to the Penn Biden Center because they were mixed up with other documents, that is a responsibility of the chief of staff of the of the vice president if you set a culture in which classified doi documents were treated in that way while they were in the vice president's office. They should not be I was in I had an office in the West Wing in the in the Bush administration. I had top secret SEI clearance. I used top secret SEI documents all the time.

I had a safe in my office where I kept them. If I got up to go to the bathroom, I put them back in the safe because I would not leave them lying out on my desk. If I was going, so there was never a situation where I had a top secret SBI document in a pile of papers on my desk that I left there that I could have put in a box somewhere.

So, you know, it's just it shows a blatant disregard and a culture within their office of mishandling classified information while they're in the White House. The Vice President's office is not a skip. I've been in it. They're people without security clearance come in to meet with the Vice President all the time. I met with Vice President Mike Tence when he was Vice President, and I had no longer had a security clearance.

He didn't have top secret documents lying around when I was in there.

So, this is not an excuse. And laying and putting her out to dry is just absolutely just shows what bad. bad people these people are. Um how do they make it go away? By getting cleared by the Justice Department in some way of wrongdoing.

Until then, it doesn't go away. I mean, I'm sure that Republicans would be more than happy to give them an excuse by shutting down the government or defaulting on the debt to do that. And oh, by the way, that would another topic for us to discuss at some point in greater length. That would be a beautiful move for us to do something to harm the economy so that Biden can stop talking about the Putin price hike and call it the McCarthy price hike so he can blame us for the economy. We've got the worst economy Americans think in a generation.

They blame majority of Americans, blame Joe Biden for the economy. And Republicans are about to say, hold my beer, I'll take over here and take ownership of the bad economy. We should do absolutely nothing to harm the economy and allow Biden to blame us like he's blamed Putin for the disaster that he's unleashed. Um We have so much more to talk about, Mark, but I'm up against the break. Thanks so much.

Put it in perspective. We've got to talk about the Ukraine war, which I'm going to do with Dan Bilak from Ukraine at the bottom of the hour. Excellent. All right. Go get him.

He is Mark Thiessen. Thanks, Mark. When we come back, I'll take your calls: 1-866-408-7669. You listen to the Brian Kilmee Show. Yeah.

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What's on your mind? Well, I've two real quick points. Number one, the big thing is number one is I've had top secret clearances in the military before, and you have to have the right to know and also have to have a need to know. And Vice President Biden As a VP, never had the executive privilege to be able to remove documents from the White House or place of security. And on top of that, he also never had the right or the clearance, well, to remove them outside of that.

So he's never had that privilege. The second one is that having his attorneys going in and doing the search and not having law enforcement Now, when you come to a point where this may hit a hearing or so forth. The attorneys all they have to say, well, this is now his attorney client privilege, and it scrubs President O'Biden from any ill illegalities as to how they were stored, where they were stored, when they were stored.

So he it's now completely scrubbed clean. Yeah, uh all good points, uh all important. Uh we'll see where this goes. They're trying to explain it away, but they can't explain it because they debt no one gave them a heads up on it. And I really question their Joe Biden knew about it, and if he didn't know about it, that means there could be other documents everywhere.

A radio show like no other. It's Brian Killmead. We truly need to continue that support of Ukraine to continue with supplies of necessary systems must outpace Russia's next missile attacks. The supplies of Western tanks must outpace another invasion of Russian tanks.

So that was Zelensky yesterday addressing those billionaires at Davos, saying, guys, thanks for everything, but we need more. We need it quicker. The Russians have an offensive going on, and we did notice they evidently might have a draft announced soon and calling up 500,000 people. They don't care how many bodies they bring back. Daniel Bilak is a member of the Territorial Defense Force of Ukraine, former Chief Investment Advisor to the Prime Minister of Ukraine and head of Ukraine Invest.

Daniel, welcome back. It looks like the Russians are on a semi-offensive to a degree. Would you characterize it that way?

Well, I think that they are preparing for an offensive. I mean, they are they've been focusing on getting anything that they can get to show success. And they focused an enormous amount of resources, human and weaponry, in the Donbass around Bakhmut and Soledar, which are not hugely strategic places, Brian. I mean, they're sort of pit bulls on the back end of you know what. And but he has to show that he's got some successes.

And but the bigger the bigger concern is that they are digging in In the south, in the east, in Zaporizhia and Kherson. And we've had a lot of activity in Belarus on our northern border, and they haven't given up on the Donbass yet. They're not going to go away. They're not going to give up. They're going to double down.

They're going to need more people. And as you just absolutely correctly said, they don't care how many people die on their side. He's prepared to take two hundred fifty thousand, three hundred thousand dead. I mean, this is the way Russia has always fought wars. Stalin sacrificed a million men to take Berlin.

You know, for them, it's all about the guys at the top getting their way.

So, Germany and the U.S. are loggerheads over tanks. Germany saying, yeah, we'll give leopard tanks only if the U.S. gives tanks first. What can you tell us about this?

No, Brian, it boggles my mind. I mean, actually, Germany is the second largest supplier of weapons to Ukraine after the United States. But the only thing anybody remembers about Germany is they don't want to give Ukraine tanks. I mean, it's really bizarre. And I don't understand the fetishism around this.

The the Leopard twos, unlike the American Bradleys, which I get why the United States is not going to send them, these are like the Formula One race cars of the tank industry. And You know, you're just gonna the logistic lines, the maintenance lines, it's just too complicated. But we're getting Bradley's and we're getting lots of other stuff that we can use on the ground. But the German Leopard IIs, as far as I understand, would be ideal for Ukraine. There's plenty of them.

There's like 2,000 of them in Europe. You know, you can put in supply lines and logistic lines and maintenance centers, and there are lots of people who know how to fix them. Our guys will learn how to drive them and use them in no time flat. You know, why Germany is so reluctant to do this, I don't understand. The whole escalation argument doesn't make any sense.

I mean, we've crossed so many Russian red lines. Uh, without having any materially different response from what we would have gotten anyway, I mean, they're bonding us into the stone age. As it is.

So I don't know what kind of escalation, what more we could be waiting for. They're not going to go nuclear over this. That's clear.

So I don't get the reluctance. I really don't. It's bizarre. I hope it changes. There's the big powwow in Ramstein tomorrow where the Germans are talking up big announcements.

So maybe that'll be their Their come to Jesus moment, you know, when they give it to us. But, you know, we need this stuff, Brian. We need tenements. We need the long range attackums, the long range weapons. And we we just pray for airplanes, although that's not in the cards right now.

But if you're going to launch a major offensive, this is the stuff you launch major offenses with. You don't have to be a military strategist to figure that part out.

So uh the Wagner Group is taking key credit for taking a city outside Backmont. They said that it's a key fi city because uh they could mess with your supply lin lines as you move forward.

Well, I mean, you know, for the Wagner group, this is this is all an internal drama that's being played out in Russia right now between the owner of the Wagner group, Evgeny Progozhin, who's trying to move up the foot chain in Putin's Close quarters. And they have lots of different reasons why they need to do it. But yeah, I mean, losing Bachelor would not be great for us. It would compromise the gains that we have made in the Donbas, but it's not fatal. And the amount of men and weapons that they've used is completely disproportionate to the gain that they were going to make.

It's not going to make a big difference to the outcome of the war at the end of the day. All right, we'll see what happens. How close, I understand you have. There are some Ukrainians in the U.S. training on the Patriot system.

What have they told you about the timing of implementation? We understand from American sources that it takes about three months to train on a Patriot system. Our guys have proven that they can you know, they said that about HighMars too, and our guys did it in about three weeks.

So we're very motivated. Our people are technically smart. I suspect that within six weeks, that's what I'm hearing from people here, that we should be ready to go. But it takes a while. It takes about 100 men.

To man a patriot system, I understand.

So it's not simple. And we need a few more hundred than that because the Dutch are giving us a patriot system. I think the Germans are giving us a patriot system.

So we need to have a really good cadre of people trained on these things so that we use them effectively. And we need them because they're starting to launch ballistic missiles at us. that we can't see the last on January 14th. the missiles that went into that killed all those people in Diepro, which was just a horrific, horrific thing to bear. I mean, two kids are now orphaned.

The forty six people are dead. I mean, it's just satanic what they're doing, Brian. And we didn't see those missiles. We don't have anything that'll knock them down. And so those patriots are absolutely critical to us.

There was a plane that landed in Belarus today carrying a hypersonic missile that we're not going to be able to stop with what we've got. Have they have they already hit you with a hypersonic glossylo in Lviv? They did I think it was Ivana Fencos earlier on. They were sort of trying it out, but it freaked out the Biden administration, I recall, freaked everybody out. But they don't have a lot of these.

Um so I mean using them on civilian targets is just Beyond insane, but that's what they seem to be.

So we can expect just about anything. Yes, I mean that's how you use a hypersonic missile to go to go over such a close target. You're not going to lose nuclear weapons because it's going to blow right back into your country. And did you glean anything from Vladimir Putin's remarks this week? I think he made remarks about a just talking about how this has been a tough year.

Overall, I don't read all his remarks that he says, but I know he addressed them. People expected him to announce a 500,000 call-up, and he didn't. Yeah, I actually don't expect him to announce a 500,000 call-up. He'll do it more obliquely. And I think maybe that's what he was referring to because you know, he although people in Russia are are starting to you know, he's he knows his people that, you know, this slave mentality, nobody's going to challenge the Tsar and you know, they're all fighting NATO, even though NATO's not on the ground.

And so they're they're like lambs and sheep to slaughter. They're going to line up and go to war. I don't know that he's going to get $500,000. I don't think he's. There are 500,000 that could be mobilized at this point.

It means there'll be nobody left to work in Russia. Um but sober anyway. And uh uh I uh I don't know how he's going to make the announcement. I think that they've been they haven't stopped mobilizing, even though they said they did. They all our indication on this side from what I'm reading is that they just continued to be mobilizing throughout.

So he'll get to whatever numbers or he'll try to get to whatever numbers he says he'll need. But you know, you've got to feed these people, you've got to equip them properly. You know, you you can only throw so much meat at uh at a lunch. And that's why we need the weapons, Brian. We've got to take these guys out.

And we need to take them out at scale and in massive numbers. And the equipment that we're asking for from our allies is going to help us do that and help us do our counteroffensives, especially in the south. If we can cut their land bridge to Kherson and Crimea, that changes the outcome and the course of the war. Anything come out of Davos for you guys? Um I mean, I don't say I mean, Davos is a talking shop.

I don't know if you've ever been there. It's a lot of jawing, but I don't think any decisions get made there. There's some meetings. I thought the First Lady was very effective, Elena Zelenska, in setting out the fact that, you know, making the case that we really need to have this stuff. Even Henry Kissinger.

You know, they rolled him out and he said, you know, I was wrong. We should have the Ukraine in NATO. You know, so that's that's it. I don't know if that's an endorsement these days or not from coming from him, but it shows that people we may have reached the tipping point, I really hope we have, where the administration and our allies are not just reacting to situations on the ground, but finally saying, okay, we've got to get this done. Because the longer people react, the more of our guys die.

And the more civilians die in these in these in these heinous bombings. And people freezing to death because we don't have heat and electricity. I mean, you know, either you're going to allow Putin and enable Putin by saying we're not going to do this, we're not going to give thanks, then it just enables him. And then he says, okay, I'm just going to wait them out. I'm going to we're going to do we're going to fight this war for two, three years because I'm winning this war, because this war is being fought in Ukraine.

It's not being fought in Russia. And so I can paint this as a victory. And we're not gonna there's no way that we could last two, three years without the further support of the West. And how much more is you know, two, three years is a long time to ask anybody to be involved in a war that they're not involved with directly. And frankly, the longer this thing goes on, the more chances of the West getting involved are greater.

And you know, it's as I said, you and I have talked about this before, you've got the deal of the century. You know, we do the fighting, we do the dying. You give us the weapons and you get the benefit. I hear you. Daniel Bilak, stay safe.

Thanks so much. God bless. Thank you to the people of the United States of America, as always. All right, Daniel, thank you. When we come back, what do you think about that?

A lot of people are saying, hey, we're tired of financing this. I am not one of them. You listen to Brian Kill Meet. Coming to you on a need-to-know basis because man, do you need to know? It's Brian Kilmead.

The more you listen, the more you'll know it's Brian Killmead. Hey, welcome back everybody. 1-866-408-7669. So Allison, you said you have something that I'm not expecting. I do.

So, do you have like any connection to Freeway Love and Aretha Franklin? No. No. Okay, so I might have received a video from someone who was working diligently outside of your office between 6 and 9 a.m. While you're on Fox and Friends, when suddenly this comes blaring out of your office.

So I See, this is the theory. I heard some murmuring about this.

So evidently my television was on. And I must have alerted my Alexa somehow.

So, my Alexis started playing a song, and I'm thinking, why that song? And we were trying to figure out why that song. I did mention about the school situation, how they don't let you win the merit scholarship. Nobody cares about winning anymore. Everyone's equal, equity.

So I said, people got to go out there and try to win. And if you see winning They thought it was Tina Turner with winning in there. That says Aretha Franklin?

Well, we did um like an app and had it listen to the song and it said it was Freeway of Love, Aretha Franklin.

So that's that's where our money is. Really? 'Cause I heard it was winning. And it was something to do with what we said.

So Alexa went off kind of on its own, on my words, on television, perhaps. And perhaps she did it twice. We have a little bit of the second one, too.

Now I always start going all the way up. Thank you all too much. It was also coming out of your office, blaring. These people were not sitting close to your office. It was so loud.

It is so loud. It was really loud. Wow. Did you go down there? Did you go up there and check it out?

No, no, we did not go. We got videos. People that were sitting out there did a video of it because no one could believe there's suddenly just rap coming out of Kill Mead's office.

Well, here's the thing: that little Alexa can really blast. It's amazing, isn't it? I mean, my question is: how loud did you have her turned up? Am I alerting people around the country? Did I use the word Alexa or Alex or excellent?

Are you doing that now? Right. Am I doing it now? If I say Alexa, put on the Brian Kill Me show. Did I just put on everyone's Alexa just now?

And I should be doing that. I hope so. Yeah, let's hope so. You should do that on T V because if people are already listening to us, they already have it on. Right.

Uh I should say that on T V. That would have been good. All right, so that's one of the mysteries of life. I'll have to play that down and really look into it. I'm not sure I've ever played that music.

So it's not like you're coming, you know, it's not like you're tapping into my playlist. This is the playlist of Alexa.

So you say we're taking your word here that you're just not blasting this on your own. I think it would do good for my image to have rap in my background. That's probably just been a rapper. But not to about Free Way of Love. Uh right.

W is free way of love something is it like free love? Or is it like love is a... You know, you go on the freeway and get love. I have not analyzed her lyrics, but we can do that during the next break. Roy, listen on WVGA in Valdusta, Georgia.

Hey, Roy. Good morning, Brian. How are ya? Good, what's on your mind?

Well, I was listening to the program and you made a question about If Biden doesn't know where the documents came from or how he got in possession of them, What else might he have that he's not supposed to have? And it just begs the age-old question, is it better to be stupid or incompetent?

So I I just wanted to get that out there. What is more likely? This to get stuck in a closet. His chief of staff says, oh, it's probably my fault. But who puts it in the garage?

I mean, does he? And if he says, I don't know how it got there, and it's true. He doesn't know how it got there. Forget about what else is in his wake. And I just go back to the University of Delaware.

I think there's a Biden school at the University of Delaware where they keep his paperwork. I mean right now you gotta be rifling through that. And now we find out that they're being accompanied by the Department of Justice. At the very least, to totally neutralize and stop the talking point that Trump acted irresponsible in Mar-a-Lago, because the minute you bring that up, He's going to go, really? What was next to my Corvette?

Nothing. You know, what was I doing in the garage? Nothing. What I did is put it in a secure location in Mar-a-Lago. Let's debate that.

And at least we had secret service there. We are running on the freeway. All the love we can't make. Are you sure this isn't Team to Turn Turner? It's Aretha Franklin.

Positive about that. From the Fox News Radio Studios in Midtown Manhattan, it's the fastest-growing radio talk show. Brian Kilmead. Hi everyone, welcome to the latest moments of the Brian Kill Meet Show coming to you from a very rainy 48th and 6th in Midtown Manhattan and we're heard around the country, around the world. Paul DeGelder is going to be here, so I have somebody to look forward to in terms of guests this hour.

Oh, I'm sorry, I didn't see you, Kennedy. That really hurts your feelings, doesn't it? And Paul DeGelder is the host of Discovery Channel Shark Week and author of the new book, Shark: Why We Need to Save the World's Most Misunderstood Predator. Uh you wrote the book Kimmy Out in so in uh against sharks.

So he's your rival. I I'm surprised we're not going to be in the studio at the same time. Obviously, that can't happen. Right. Number one, because of the sexual chemistry.

But number two, because we are both so passionate about this issue, we'll tear each other limb from limb. True. And later you'll go into detail about your passion for sharks, and you're against sharks. I'm against my passion against sharks. I feel like they're they know where I am.

Right. Pretty much rel uh the good news for you is they're regulated to the ocean. What a relief. Kennedy's here. She's hosting Kennedy at 7 o'clock.

They're like turtles. Right. Hey, Kennedy, before we find out, we have breaking news to go over. But first, let's go through the big three.

Now, with the stories you need to know, it's Brian's big three. Number three. There's clearly been an effort. To bring down the standards for our students in Virginia, to stop celebrating excellence, and this is counter to everything we believe. That is Governor Glenn Young, new low.

Dozens of students in Virginia secretly denied early earned merit scholarships in the name of equity, the worst word in the English language. It's outrageous. And believe me, it's likely not just held in Virginia. 17 schools are involved. We need to stop it.

Number two. The accumulated amount is now trapping as much extra heat as would be released by 600,000 Hiroshima-class atomic bombs exploding every single day on the earth. That's what's boiling the oceans and the rain bombs. What is he even talking about? Al Gore, what an embarrassment.

Davos, full of anger and arrogance, as they try and set the course for America and the world. What was said and why we all should be embarrassed to say John Kerry and Al Gore speak for us. Number one. I am going to refer you to the White House counsel. I am going to refer you to the Department of Justice.

I would refer you to Department of Justice. No, you would have to go to the Department of Justice. And I would refer you to the Department of Justice. What an embarrassment. Karine Jean-Pierre, not just us.

Other media outlets also fed up with the clumsy, insulting deflection on Biden's documents, and more photos emerge showing how careless Biden felt with them, all clearly exposed to his son Hunter, who's a hooker enthusiast and wants to smoke crack over and over again.

Sorry. That was my fault. I'm going to fire my copy editor. Strippers, not hookers. And then that's how you went down.

You have to go home and explain that to your loved one. Yeah, got fired today. Hookers, not strippers. He had no choice. Hookers, not hookers.

Right. Right. So, Kennedy, your show starts at 7, but we have breaking news now. Alec Baldwin, they were supposed to announce his status on the horrible shooting on the Rust set. And he, along with the armorer who loads the gun, looks like they're charged.

Two counts each. Involuntary manslaughter, the main one, could result in prison time. Yes, uh there are two involuntary manslaughter charges. Both of which are a uh Fourth degree felony. There you go.

There's that. That's for you. Do you want this? Do you want this back? No, go ahead.

This is other paper. And it is a fourth degree felony punishable by up to 18 months in prison, both those counts.

So they could be seeing. Three years in prison each. Hannah Gutierrez-Reed is the film's armor, and she will also be charged. We were just going over this. She's not the most experienced, prop person in the world.

Alec Baldwin will be charged, even though he says he didn't pull the trigger, the trigger went off with the gun in his hand. Guns don't shoot themselves. Right. So he was also. I wonder if this played a role.

The fact he's the executive producer of it. Yes, absolutely. And he he is in charge of personnel, their competence, how the set is run, obviously staffed. Uh, those decisions fall to him and it especially being the star of the show, he kind of has to produce himself, so he has double the liability there. Yeah, so and this investigation has taken quite some time, and there's always a fear that.

something like this is being slow walked, so people forget about it, and then they just kind of secretly dismiss the charges. I'm actually happy to see that this was a thorough process. It appears to be well thought out and executed. And He he Should face the music. This is, you know, a young mom, and he took her life.

You know, I didn't do the investigation, but you know, it was definitely involuntary. Nobody doubts that. Number one, they were absolutely friends.

So nobody doubts that. Number one, number two, is that he's refused to speak to the husband because he said, well, you're suing me, so I can't speak to you, evidently.

So he's like, he's off the Baldwin sorry train.

So I'm sure there's going to be all types of different suits about that. I can't believe they're still going ahead with the movie. Yeah, maybe they feel, well, you know, we've gotten this much good press. We may as well release it now. Go watch, go finish it up and watch Rust.

You talk about a guy's fall from, he didn't have grace, I get it, but famous, very talented, I mean, even talented politically, which I do. I've met him a couple times. Always a really nice, affable guy. You know, goes out of his way to, he's one of those people, he's like Bill Clinton. Have you met Bill Clinton?

Yes. Yeah, so he has that charm that if he chooses to turn it on, what's real is the key. Yeah, yes. But if he wants to win you over, it's full court press. Right.

And if he doesn't, he will try to beat you up. Like, for example, you can take his barcode. Fiddle with your brakes. Right. Allegedly.

That's. Is that true? That's why I said allegedly. Oh, okay. It's the blanket term that lets you pretty much say anything about anyone anytime.

All right. So, is that good news for Alec Baldwin? Almost. Oh, dear God. Oh, Lord.

Oh, hell. That's not good. There, that went in there, and here's your. I've had.

So, what happened is, I put my hand up and I knocked my iPad into the garbage. I was worried there were empty, half-empty cups of coffee that were going to soil your device. No, good news, all beer.

So that's a good thing. All empty. Yes, all empty. That's why the third hour is usually the most entertaining. That's why, let's go save Kennedy for the last hour.

I tell Pete, never book me before 11. Right. Whoever Pete is. I don't really meet the staff. Oh.

Yeah. I don't it's not up to me. Am I not supposed to be here? Is this some deranged fan that's booking me on your show? I'm pretty sure.

Yeah, there is no Pete.

So you might be in the wrong studio. And I'm not really sure. Guy, you look great. Yeah, thank you. Thank you, Guy Benson, you're referring to.

So, Alec Boulder, not good news. We can't end it there.

So, what did I tell you? How many times do I walk up to you and say, How can you just stand there? The oceans are boiling. How many times do I walk up to you and say? I thought you needed to either up the voltage or double your medication.

Right. So Al Gore leaves office. Evidently, when he went into, I was just reading a lot about Al Gore because that's how empty my life is. Is that your next book? Al Gore.

Go from Frederick Douglass and Abraham Lincoln to Al Gore. Is there any difference? Very similar to biographies. Just swap out the pictures. Same story.

The way I write it, I write very generically. You didn't know Al Gore is from Illinois. Right. You didn't know he was born in a cabin.

So Al Gord's dad decides to help him become a congressman. When he's done as vice president, they say he's worth $2 million.

Now he's worth $300 million. It's amazing how well it's paid, how well you get paid to save the earth. And you make stuff up. Like, for example, the North Pole will no longer have ice within ten years. Can't even call it a pole.

Still cold. Yeah. Yeah. Do you do you? I didn't know they called their pole because of the cold.

I gotta look this stuff up. Why am I so unprepared to do this interview? A lot of people don't know that, Brian, but if you don't trust the science, you don't trust me.

Okay. Wow, you really put me on my heels. Here's Al Gore acting totally rational in Davos. Cut 10. Emissions are still going up.

All these promises of the last few years to cut emissions, emissions are still going up. When are we going to bring these emissions down? The accumulated amount is now trapping as much extra heat as would be released by 600,000 Hiroshima-class atomic bombs exploding every single day on the Earth. That's what's boiling the oceans, creating these atmospheric rivers and the rain bombs, and sucking the moisture out of the land and creating the droughts and melting the ice and raising the sea level and causing these waves of climate refugees. We cannot let the oil companies and gas companies and petro states tell us what is permissible.

Now, let me get in my private jet, get some jet fuel, and then fly out of here. By myself. By the way, that is why when I empty lobster trats, the lobsters are cooked early. Because it's boiling. That's why I started lobster fishing.

Yeah, even in the North Atlantic, it's like being in the tropics. You see that? Like, I throw on a bikini in February, you pull those pots out. Those little guys are red as Santa Claus. And they're all claws, especially with you and your bikini.

But I mean, what's wrong with him? I think that he knows in this conversation, no one talks about him. He's. Very irrelevant after AOC and Greta Thunberg and even John Kerry. No one talks about Al Gore anymore.

So if he's like, okay, I'm going to amp up. Yeah. About 541%, and then people will pay attention to me. They're not paying attention to it because they're scared. Climate hysteria doesn't work on rational people who no longer trust the statistics that you gave them 10 years ago saying the earth wouldn't be here in 10 years.

We're still here.

So that stuff doesn't work.

So they have to try a different tack. And the tack should be: the earth is beautiful. Let's save it through. Tinkerers and entrepreneurs who will come up with innovations that don't have anything to do with government. Exactly.

Um you said I mean, I almost think he's disappointed the Earth's still here. Because it makes him look like his movie was all fiction. Yeah. And he got an ME. He says things, but he doesn't back them up with any data.

Like, emissions are still high. I don't believe you. I do not believe you. Do you think you hear the ozone low is healing itself? Did you see that story earlier this week?

And thickening again. We will never hear that, but. The earth is weird. Human beings, they actually want the earth to be better and they do more than they get credit for. Do you remember when I called you in nineteen seventy seven using my rotary phone?

Which was weird 'cause I was five. Right. And uh then no wonder you didn't get on the phone. Because I was older. 1977.

How old were we? My mom was like, that's scandalous. Tell that young man to stop calling here. Why do you have a 12-year-old calling you 3,000 miles away? Because I was alarmed, I thought I'd talk to you.

You'll make sense of Time Magazine's cover that said how to survive the coming ice age.

So we survived without your help. Thank you. So now it became global warming. That didn't work.

So they go climate change.

So you got a tornado, you have a hurricane, you have a volcano, climate change. Did it change? Any weather events? Any Geothermic event, they'll go, Oh, it's it's climate change. The earth is mad.

Right. Who else said that? Ellen. Yeah. The other person I look to.

When Al Gore's busy. I go, What does Ellen think? And she's up. It's raining in California.

Now, this is a serious question. Is this good news at all for the drought in California? Yes, it's good news for the drought. It's bad news because the state mismanages the land when there is a drought.

So what happens is instead of clearing everything out, they just let things dry out. And so you've got all this dry disgustingness that Then there are wildfires because the state, even though it's such a high-tax state, they don't keep the public utilities in check. And they spark, start wildfires, clears everything out. Then you have these bare hillsides.

So when it rains, then there's mudslides. And this is all incompetent state government. Thank you, Gavin Newsom, for wrecking everything. And he never gets any discredit for it. No, and he should.

All right, so, Kennedy. Our mayor in New York City, I know you live in two places, but our mayor in New York City went down to the border and he diagnosed the border correctly. It's a crisis, it's a disaster. And he said that it's up to the federal government to do this. He didn't name President Biden.

He did say FEMA needs more money. That's not true. We've got to build it. He said people should apply. He has a six-point plan in today's Washington Post, one of which was put somebody in charge of the border.

Oops, we have somebody. They just don't want to run it. Number two, we have to have people apply for citizenship outside the country. We had that. Remain in Mexico.

Sorry about that. He doesn't mention barrier, but he also says work visas. Yep, we need people to work. We have a visa program. Sure.

So let's amp that up. I'm going to be fine with that. Or maybe refine, streamline it so it's a little bit easier so people can come and go. All right. So, what's your reaction?

Do you feel good that your mayor is taking such action? Don't you think this is an opportunity for him to become a national figure?

Okay. I'm glad that there is a Democrat who is acknowledging that there is an immigration crisis. The federal government gets really mad at states like Arizona and Texas, where they're like, we are completely overwhelmed. We cannot physically and emotionally support this number of people. It's impossible.

So they have like one tiny town in Texas, say Eagle Pass, has 10 times the number of migrants. Than New York City, which is a city of 10 million people. And New York City is like, we can't take all these people. It's like, well, how do you think these tiny towns feel? Thank you.

So, yes, I'm glad about that. But also, he has a lot to deal with in New York City. It's no picnic here. I live in Manhattan and I worry about my children and my friends. And sometimes it really sucks.

Also, don't picnic here. We don't really want any more clogging in the world. And you'll probably get play. I saw a guy pooping and a guy peeing just in the last week, and it was not the same guy. Please don't tell me that video.

Back in a moment. Learning something new every day on The Brian Kilmeat Show. If you're interested in it, Brian's talking about it. You're with Brian Kilmead. Well, there's a lot of pressure now because if you're interested in it, Brian's talking about it.

Now I have to talk about it. Kennedy's here, said to host her show any minute now.

Okay, six and a half hours. Yeah, it's a little while. All right, so I overstated it, but I want to get the sense of breaking news. First off, you just told me something that I don't have. I need a second source usually, because you've said a few things that you didn't make any sense already.

But this is true. You have the fourth most popular podcast in Fox News, on Fox News. Yeah. So Fox News podcasts, Spotify, Apple Podcasts. Go find Kennedy Saves the World.

We have a great time. Today I'm interviewing Ricky Williams. The former Hyde Trophy winner? Uh he's got a cannabis company called Heisman, spelled H-I-G-H-S-M-A-N. My sense is he wasn't waiting for past pac to be legalized.

You know what, Brian? I think he might be on to something here. I think he he might have done a little R and D on his own. Right, yes, I think he did. I remember he us I hear it is the greatest guy, but I remember he did a few interviews with his helmet on.

That was that was a little interesting.

Well, you never when uh you never know when Shrapnel is nearby. You don't want to take incoming. Right. Saints practice. Don't want to.

Absolutely not. Right. Hard to tackle. Exactly right. Right.

All right. Uh Tom Brady, coming back. I hope not. I just, I don't like Tom Brady. No, you just don't like it.

You're a Giants fan? Yes. Yeah, you can't like Tom Brady. Why, Giants beat him twice in the Super Bowl. Yeah.

Jets are the ones that shouldn't like 'em. Oh, that's that's true. Right. Well, I don't like the Jets. How about that?

You know why? Because they draft dumb dumps from USC.

So it's a bad organization. That was Sanchez. Yeah, Buck Fumble. And Darnold. Yeah, Sam Darnold.

Right. Dougie.

Well, Doug. Darn. Listened. He might be the starting quarterback for the Carolina Panthers. And I don't know.

Right. Yep. Good athlete. Meow. Not really.

Who's on your show tonight? Oh, that's a great question. I don't know yet. Right? Who's not?

Brian Kilmead is not on my show tonight at 7 p.m. Eastern on Fox Business. We sh I think there's one. I would love for you to be on. Every time we ask you, you pick up the phone and go, Right, you know I don't pick up my own phone, so you're making that up.

You know that, right? It's Pete. Right, it's Pete, whoever he is. There's a lot of mystery to this half hour. I hope I didn't lose any audience.

Shark Week. Right. Our tribal, Paul DeGelder, will be here. Can't wait. And what was the first time the fight you had?

What was the first fight you guys had? You don't even want to go through it again. No, who got to ride the shark? I lost. Right.

Don't ride sharks. Don't think. What's your Aquaman? Not a land animal. Radio that makes you think.

This is the Brian Kill Me Show. Hey, welcome back, everyone. We are following the breaking story that Alex Baldwin's been charged, along with the armor, who you probably don't know her name, been charged with involuntary manslaughter and another charge that could result in prison time.

Now he's got a lawyer up and Find out where we go from here, all about that Rust shooting.

So, Alec Baldwin has been charged with involuntary manslaughter and the death of Helena Hutchins, the Assistant Director. Pleads to negligence use of a deadly weapon.

Meanwhile, on a totally separate note, Paul DeGelder is with us now. Paul is the host of Discovery Channel's Shark Week and author of the new book, Shark: Why We Need to Save the World's Most Misunderstood Predator. Hey, Paul, welcome. G'day, Brian. How are you, mate?

Uh good. Where are you calling from? Um, actually a shot show in Vegas. Oh, you you you're in a shark show or a truck show? Sure.

Big uh government weapons Sort of expo in Vegas. A lot of military friends here, a lot of contractors. It's free for all. It's pretty amazing.

Well, everybody knows you're from Shark Week and Discovery and what you do on television and what you've done in the past. But for now, the title of your book is intriguing. Why do we need to save the sharks to save the oceans? Man, it's a lot of people don't understand it. It's kind of like playing a game of Jenga.

Yeah, everyone knows what that is. You remove a couple of the bottom blocks and everything starts to get unstable. But sharks are like those blocks. They're a keystone species as what's called an apex predator. And once you remove the apex predator from the environment, the ripple effect down through the ecochain doesn't just stop at the carnivorous fish populations that explode because there's nothing to eat them, or the fish that they eat, which keep the reefs healthy, but it actually dominoes down onto us as humans in the outcome.

So it's actually beneficial for us to look after the sharks. And they're just being decimated, mate. It's a great thing for me in my military life to transfer my role as a protector of humans to now being able to be a protector and speak up for an animal that doesn't have a voice.

Well, you say they're unfairly labeled as predators. You think they got bad, the jaws ruined the shark? I don't know about everyone else, but I love Jaws. I don't think there's anything wrong with that. I think the problem is human beings not being able to separate reality from fiction.

That's big more of a worry for me.

So, what is the reality of sharks? I mean, we have a reason to fear them. Men and women are, you are attacked by sharks. Right. Well, we like terminology is important.

When I say attack, a lot of the the majority of the time is not an attack. It's an investigatory bite, we call it. But they're not out to eat us. And if you do the comparisons, say one hundred people in America today are going to die on the roads. In comparison, ten people a year are going to be killed by a shark.

Yet we kill over a hundred million sharks a year.

So, who's the real monster here? It's not the sharks. Like, I've been attacked. I have like the word attack. Yes, it tried to eat me.

It actually didn't try, it actually succeeded. Took my hamstring, took my hand when I was a Navy bomb disposal diver doing counter-terrorism in Australia, and a 10-foot bullshark took off my hand and my leg.

So if I can understand the important role of sharks after what I've been through, And then go and work with Shark Week and Discovery Channel and stand up for them. I feel like everyone else should be able to understand it the same way. And that's why I wrote this book because I wanted everyone to not just. Understand but Have a r a deep Deep respect for them. Steve Irwin once said, if you can teach people to love something, then they'll want to protect it.

And so that's the role of the book shark.

So, Paul, tell us what happens when you lost two limbs in that shark attack. And try and get out of the water really, really quick, which is hard when you've got one hand and one leg, and you're sort of. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Okay, that's towards the end. What led up to the attack?

So I was pretending to be an attack swimmer, and we were working with the R and D department of the military. They were testing new sonar automated video equipment. And we're really just swimming on the surface from point A to point B, pretending to put a bomb on a warship. And I'm on the surface on my back in a black wetsuit, a pair of fins, flapping around for sharks to look at like an injured seal, I guess. But there had never been a shark attack in Sydney Harbour in 50 years.

And so even though we knew they were there, they never bothered us.

So I'm just kicking along 7 o'clock in the morning in February 2009, and a 10-foot bull shark came up from underneath me, grabbed me by the back of my right leg and my right hand in the same bite, and decided that it wanted them more than I did. Pretty pretty horrible feeling. People asked me if it hurt. And I say, well, go in the allundory. kick your coffee table with your shin as hard as you can and then times that by a million.

And so I thought I was going to die. I accepted the fact that I was going to die because there was absolutely no way I could get out of it. It was tearing me apart. And then it removed my hamstring, ripped out my hand, and my wetsuit made me buoyant.

So I popped to the surface, realizing I'm not dead, thinking I gotta get the hell out of here before another shark comes, thinking they're gonna smell all the blood.

So I swam back to my safety boat where my teammates were waiting with one hand and one leg through a pool of my own blood. And they kept me alive till the paramedics got there. I got my priorities in order and I asked my mate Tomo to look after my motorbike 'cause I don't think I'm riding home from work today. And uh she got me into emergency surgery and thankfully, you know, You can have the best doctors, nurses, paramedics in the world, but all those people that donated blood, they saved my life as well. 300 donations of blood I went through.

So thank you to everyone out there that donates blood. You are actually saving lives. But yet, what you learned from that is to love sharks rather than hate them. I don't know how you do that. It wasn't instantaneous.

I actually didn't like sharks at all. I thought if we killed them, then we just could swim in the ocean and not have to worry about anything, and that'd be great. But because my recovery and my attack was so highly publicized in the media in Australia, every time there was a shark interaction after that, they would come to me for a comment asking, why did the shark attack? How do we stay safe? And I didn't know.

And so, you know, we have this wonderful thing called Google. And I started to learn. I did a deep dive. And there's this saying that we have: knowledge dispels fear. And so it turns out the more I learn about sharks, the more I realize how little we have to fear of them and how much they have to fear from us.

And so. That kind of Catapulted me into a whole new career. You know, I stayed in the Navy for three years as an instructor. Turns out I hate teaching people to do things and I just like doing them myself.

So I ended up getting out of the Navy and fell into my two greatest fears. public speaking and shocks.

Now, I'm literally a public speaking shark diver. I travel America, I give motivational, inspirational presentations at conferences, and I work with sharks on Shark Week.

So the more time you spend with them, the more you fall in love with them. You realize that they're not out to get you. They are beautiful, incredible predators that will actually let you share their space. And you can't say that about too many other predators in the wild. Like you can't go up and hand feed a bear because it'll probably bite your head off.

So, Paul, you go in your show, you have a lot of celebrities on there. You have Tyson, Ronda Rousey.

So, what is it like? He's a good man, six foot eight. Probably scarier than the sharks because when we're on the boat about to dive down with 30 bull sharks and I'm about to teach her how to hand feed one, he looks at me and goes, My wife don't get barked on this boat. None of y'all getting back on this boat. And she did.

Oh, absolutely. Yeah, exactly. Same as Tyson, same as Will Smith. They all get out of the water and say, that is the best experience I've ever had in my life. And I wish I could share that with everyone, but I can't.

And so this book is my attempt to do that. Shark, Why We Need to Save the World's Most Misunderstood Predator, Paul, on on the on sale this week. But you're not talking about that in Vegas today, are you? No, today I'm catching up with all the military buddies and just sharing the love, spreading the story, sharing the inspiration and motivation, and having a good time.

So, you know, I'm on the Aaron Fox, right, for a while. And for some reason, John Oliver on HBO heard a trend in some things that I said consistently when sharks came up in the news.

So we had no reason to play it, Paul, until you came out with this book.

So let's play it. And now, Fox and Friends is Brian Kilmead is definitely afraid of sharks. It's Shark League, and we have real sharks. Need proof? That's what they look like.

A great white shark could be coming to your beach. Where that shark's heading, and does he have your name on his mind? Surfers are getting eaten by sharks. Who else is attacking kayakers? Who's getting eaten by sharks at SeaWorld?

How many sharks do you have? How do you see them? Why are you not intimidated by sharks? Why are all the big creatures coming so close to shore? Don't it feel like we're getting there's way too many sharks?

Why are the sharks so angry? Down in Palm Beach last week. I saw him before you attacked him. I was always told that sharks don't like the taste of humans. If you're ever attacked by a shark, punch him in the nose.

You're supposed to? Punch him in the nose. We should stay out of the water as human beings until the ocean starts calming down. One word: pull. Go in a pool and stay away from the beach.

A spinner shark jumped out about 20 feet from me, just kind of at me. Is there such thing as a spinner shark? Yeah. Jumps out of the water and kind of does a spin.

So that's a little of the time sharks have come up on the show. Am I hurting your cause? Brian, I'm marinating on a shark week title that includes. Illmead and shark. Kill and kill me.

I think we need to get you out on the boat, my friend.

Well, I'll tell you what, you just let me know. I'll see if I can work out my schedule. The problem is, I don't really have any days off ever with you.

Well, you know, I. I am a military guy. I can just kidnap you and drag you out there, and we'll take you out and put you in the water with sharks and get you over this fear. I'm pretty sure I'll press George's, but I'll get a signed book at the very least. But Paul, thanks so much.

Go out and get Paul's book, Shark, Why We Need to Save the World's Most Misunderstood Predator. Paul, have a great time in Vegas. You too, mate. Take care. You got it.

When we come back, I'll finish up with your calls and find out if there's indeed more to know. That was Paul DeGelder. Don't go anywhere, Brian Kilmead will be right back. Breaking news, unique opinions. Hear it all on the Brian Kill Me Show.

Hey, don't forget we got one nation. It used to feel like it was going to be six days away, then five days away.

Now it's two days away. A great episode coming up at 8 o'clock. I don't want to give out too many details yet, but I know Dana Prino will be on the show, and we're going to finalize things today. But One Nation, 8 o'clock Eastern Time. That's coming up on Fox News channel.

We're still monitoring the situation. That's Saturday, I should say. We're still monitoring the situation as it looks like Alec Bolson's been charged on two accounts, including involuntary manslaughter for the shooting on the set of Rust.

So just a tragedy all around. Let's find out if there's more to know. More to know. Sponsored by Unplugged. Reclaim your privacy from big tech snooping with Unplugged.

Visit unplugged.com. There you go, Tom Brady done with the Buccaneers, according to Julian Edelman, one of his best friends and finest receivers. If he has another season, it's not going to be in Tampa Bay. Just because Tom's a businessman, Tom's a smart guy. He's going to do exactly what he did when he left New England.

He's going to go to the best situation that helps him win if he wants to continue his playing career. I don't know. He'll probably sit these next two weeks and he'll hang out with his family and he'll assess the situation. I'm sure he has a routine now because he's probably been thinking about this these last three or four years: on, you know, am I going to play? Am I not going to play?

Right. And, you know, I'll give him a call and bug him a couple times and see if he'll give me anything. He probably won't.

Well, they fired the Buccaneers, their offensive coordinator already, Byron Lefwich. Initially, he was getting along great with Brady. He thought he was going to be a head coach, and now he gets fired as an offensive coordinator. One thing about Brady, he seems to clash with his coaches a lot. He's not speaking to Belichick.

He got rid of Arians, according to reports.

So he's going to be moving on from here. It's amazing. He has a great relationship with Bob Kraft, but not with a lot of coaches. Do you think it's because he thinks he knows better being in the league for so long? It might be.

I mean, he might just do that.

Next. The NHL now, they backed Fires Ivan Provikov, his decision to skip the team's Pride festivity.

So before the game, they just dedicated this one game, the Flyers did, to Pride. It was Pride Night. That was not good for Provorov. He did not want to wear the Pride colors, so he did not come out for the warm-ups. The NHL released a statement backing the Flyers defensemen over his decision to skip out on Tuesday night's pregame warm-ups where players wore those Pride jerseys.

26-year-olds who's Russian Orthodox explained to the media following the game that he was elected not to participate. He elected not to participate because it violates his Religion.

So We have a little audio of his coach sticking up for him. I respect everybody's choices. My choice is to stay true to myself and my religion. That's all I'm going to say. With Provi, he's being true to himself and to his religion.

This has to do with his belief in his religion. And it's one thing I respect about Provy. He's always true to himself. Was there any consideration on your part when he chose not to wear the jersey to not play him as a result? No, no.

I'm not going to answer many more questions on it because I just think it's unfair.

So there you go. A lot of controversy. We'll see. I don't know why hockey does all this stuff. I don't know whether to try to be politically correct again, and it makes no sense.

No, I agree. Actually, I'm stealing this from Jimmy. Jimmy Thalia said on the air today, he goes, people go to the hockey game to it. They're paying $22 for a beer. They want to get away from politics, like enough.

Like, just why do you have to go out there and make everything some sort of statement? Right. Next, Karine Jean-Pierre mistakenly refers to Kamala Harris as the president during her press conference. Listen. This Sunday, the president will speak about the fight to secure women's fundamental right to reproductive health care in the face of these attacks.

She will talk about what's at stake for millions of women across the country, and most importantly, the need for Congress to codify the protections of Roe into law. I mean, what's wrong with her? I mean, I could see the president keeps calling her president. It's not like as if she's in charge. Like, Dick Cheney was doing a lot.

Mike Pence was doing a lot, even though Donald Trump's an overpowering personality. But she doesn't do anything.

So why do we keep slipping in this administration and calling her president? I mean, KJP is usually so competent.

So it is unlike her. Evidently, a big story about that guy, Oliver Darcy. I know you follow these guys. Came out with his newsletter saying that all of the press is fed up with her. I read that.

They're nonsense press conferences. She never says anything.

So it's not just about the controversy. No, you know it's bad, A, when other reporters are getting fed up with it, and B, when Oliver Darcy is writing about that, because he's the biggest apologist out there. Oh, it's really nauseating, yes. All right, New Mexico's District Attorney decided to announce that it looks like they will charge the Armour as well as Alec Baldwin on two counts each on involuntary manslaughter. That is really big news.

Next, Live Golf at last has a TV deal. The new golfing circuit, bankrolled by Saudi Arabia's Sovereign Wealth Fund, has signed with the CW Network and its app beginning this month, Thursday. The turmoil amends, it's caused tremendous turmoil, as you know. The C stands for CBS, the W for Warner, has entered into a multi-year deal with Liv, read by, actually headed up by Greg Norman. The two sides jointly announced the deal on Thursday, when they will not see Liv Doff get paid a traditional rights fee, but that the league says is mutually financially beneficial.

I know MLS did this. They say, let's split the revenue. You know, let's split the production costs, let's split the revenue. Let's not have a rights fee. Later, they'll charge a rights fee, it'll be a bidding war.

Right, once they establish that people want to watch it. Right, that would be the reason. Already, the PGA has said, Masters, the Masters have said, if you're with the Live Tour, you can play with us. How soon? To the PGA is gonna say, hey, you could play in the majors because the best player, some of the best players already signed with Greg Norman's League.

You might be angry, but what's good for the game? No, completely, and you want the competition. And the PGA is sort of just looking like they were happy being the only game in town. Right. And try and bully them out of the way.

Next, the TSA is breaking yet another record nationally for firearm discoveries. Five U.S. airports with the most TSA firearm discoveries are Hartsfield and Atlanta, which topped the list of 448, followed by Dallas-Fort Worth International, followed by Houston's George Bush, to Nashville International, to Phoenix Sky Harbor. Did you know that people are still bringing guns to the airport? You get arrested on the spot, don't you?

I think in a lot of those states, though, you have the right to carry, so you might just forget that they're on you. Maybe. See, as not as a gun guy, I don't know how you ever forget that you have a gun on you. I don't, but you also forget your phone and things like that all the time, too. Right, which is another reason why I shouldn't have a doctor.

That's very true.

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