Tragedy in Texas, 19 Children Murdered at Elementary School

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His social media handle is FBI John so that's easy to remember and John participated in the investigations of the Oklahoma City bombing. Oh, I remember covering that and interviewing Gov. Keating and others the 9/11 attack. Of course, and the shooting of Congresswoman Gabby Giffords and the Sony hack as well. Author of disorderly conduct and how to spot the terrorists and among John's many FBI assignments.

He previously served in Washington DC as the FBI national spokesperson, and later on the executive staff of the FBI's cyber division John, welcome to the Rykiel Michaud good morning good to have you, but certainly not good news that were to be sharing how you process yet another mass shooting and the target children ages seven, eight, nine and 10 it's it's it's unbearable. It's on unspeakable almost right. It is unbearable and comprehensible yet in the world of law enforcement.

It's not surprising. We know that there's things out there knows people that have mental health issues, criminals, etc. and that's why there's always such an emphasis with schools about having security employees training staff, etc. and it's going to be an ongoing issue that we're just going to have to continue addressed right now it's morning for the families.

It's terrible what happened and all the parents can imagine what those poor parents must be going through injection well said and and and certainly I concur. I wrote a piece this morning. Just because I wanted to put something out that was not hyper political that wasn't the usual stuff where the people that are on one side or the other we get nowhere because no one will give an inch. So I put a piece together that I thought was pretty sobering and and pretty fair and balanced to call Fox news and I don't ask you what you think about this one sort of analogy that I draw September 11, 2001. The most significant terrorist attack in American history hits America becomes incredibly united.

We develop the Department of Homeland Security and all kinds of things and you remember going into that.

We didn't even the terrorists knew how we thought we just didn't know how they thought we didn't think they would actually want to fly planes and kill themselves with what we think of people that want to hijack a plane and hey take me to hear and give me this amount of money, so we had to learn how to think like they think we were behind, I believe the eight ball on that.

So we develop all these things and we have not had a successful terrorist attack hit America in over 21 years. Why don't we use a similar philosophy that takes the politics out of it, which I do believe the creation of the apartment homeland security in both parties working together, and America being 90 some percent united develop something that is obviously work very well when the commitment is there, the focus is there, the resources are there, couldn't we use a 9/11 strategy on this domestic front. Great idea and I will tell you that this has been undertaken in law enforcement circles.

For example, a Secret Service which is excellent in what they do in building profiles of potential threats against elected officials have taken that knowledge and apply it to the school shooters situation the FBI has done very much the same thing indeed come up with indicators of potential shooters, different areas that you need to look for and be aware of if somebody displays water to these indicators.

It doesn't necessarily mean they're going to be a school shooter but after displaying several that may call for some intervention in advance and part of the training is to go out to schools teach the staff teachers. The parents of work for these warning signs. If you're aware of them and that the person that maybe were going to call local police mental health facility etc. it doesn't mean somebody's going to get arrested for having whatever actions or thoughts, but with the intervention by third-party.

You never know how that could prevent this tragedy that we saw yesterday John so well said, let me let you take a listen and Brian's listeners take a listen to Danny Colson who was appearing recently on Fox News is prime time and he makes a really good point. I think I know you know Danny, former FBI, deputy assistant director I think makes a very good point about about being inside and keeping the bad guys out rather than try to get in and as you know these things are usually over within four minutes. So if you're on the outside looking in her having to get there from a distance away. That doesn't seem like a very winning strategy to me. We we've got a do target hardening and we gotta do a lot of things here that were not doing Eric if you do the honors cut 12 hours the business of rescuing people in situations like this. It's a lot better to be inside Cave and the bad guys out and try to go on and found the bag's and what we do that we have the money and one other thing is that it's important to remember the gun genie is out of the bottle. You get outlaw guns tomorrow.

They're still out there and we need to protect ourselves from intent to have courage to bring a policeman that will risk their lives and save our children and put a stop to this stuff. Stop it before they get to the front door. Do you take any exception with Danny's logic there. John not at all. Mark mirrors a lot of different things that we can be doing. From this point forward technologies out there. For example, that can lock down doors in strictly in the school systems. Likewise, technologies that not only will notify everybody in the school instantaneously, but will also simultaneously notify law enforcement of what's occurring. Saving corrections time to respond to these situations, we need to be looking at not only the technology but as well the law enforcement personnel, like getting mention many times the emphasis is we want to have school resource officers and high schools, etc. because we think that's where the problems are most likely to occur, but at the same time.

142 know you want to put resources where you have your most vulnerable church located they're not going to be able to fight back the way we teach to run quite we need to look at where we putting these resources and expect to save this community didn't have persons in place to handle different schools. The issue is more of a global nationwide thing to put school resource officers in the schools we have and protect our most vulnerable, not just with happen yesterday, but everywhere in our country. We are visiting with John Generali retired FBI on the right, kill me, show Rob elementary school in the heavy Latino town of you of all the taxes yesterday.

The scene of the second worst mass shooting in American history. Only behind Sandy Hook.

Now let's take another listen to another person that I know that John knows well Chris slacker, former FBI assistant director to little. It's a similar take to Danny but there some additional nuances in here about maybe what we could've known about the shooter and so on and so forth.

Eric cut 11 like every mass shooter, especially the young ones. This phone was flashing red. It appears, which is no surprise. I mean they they always can they seemed always communicate threats they seem to articulate what they're thinking their state of mind people around them can't help but notice that we don't know whether anybody reported this and whether any any law enforcement officer ever had any contact with him over this, but I do school security assessment score quite often and I advocate always for an armed security guard at every school special the elementary schools were the little ones can't run hard fight John comment on Chris's thoughts. Chris is correct as the long person agencies try to uncover what ways doing so, not just understand what happened but hopefully prevent future action. See that there were red plaques things that people were aware of. We know that he posted some messages on social media.

Had he been doing that previously. Obviously, there was a mythic problem in the household yesterday that would not of been the first time because she's living with grandparents instead of the nuclear family and his parents. We don't know the situation yet, but it would also say suggest perhaps you were other issues. All of this cumulatively and I imagine when we talk to his teachers from school etc. were little word of other problems that kind of information we need to bring together as a community from the law enforcement angle from friends from teachers and when there's a problem we need to take steps and start doing something about it. We got a few more minutes with John Generali retired FBI on the Brian kill me show John in terms of going back to September 11, 2001, and what transpired after that with the cane in Hamilton committees and all all that went on, where everybody had a seat at the table and they were trying to figure things out what happened. For example, the famous Jamie Gorelick wall where this one didn't talk to that one because we didn't do that.

We had her own turf. Meanwhile, if everybody talk to one another. There was a lot of of chatter that maybe dots could have been connected can more be done to be preventative rather than reactive in these situations. John absolutely and the first step will be for politicians to not be pointing fingers at one another, but rather trying to come to the table and find some solution Harry, one of the biggest issues in each situation with common thread always seems to be some sort of mental health issue and while people want to talk about gun control and believe me there is a place for having rules and regulations, but we got to address all the problems involved.

We are not talking about the mental health issues whatever resources available in communities. Can you have somebody referred for psychiatric evaluation. Can you get them if there were an 18-year-old and have the rights make them go see a doctor or have some sort of treatment. These are not easy questions and the answers are to be even harder to come to but we have to start having that conversation so that we can address some of these problems can't do it with final minutes we have any insight into why they pick these very young precious innocent perfectly innocent, beautiful little boys and girl.

And yes, the shooter teachers as well, and any supportive staff that might be around you know this. This 18-year-old young man he shot and either killed or shot and it's critically wounded his own grandmother, so if your future own grandmother.

I mean, my goodness, I guess you you can shoot anyone but is there a pathology or reason.

It isn't easy. I hate to say that but is there a reason that they pick these young ones. What we don't know what happened specifically yesterday, but in general, of course, these are referred to as soft targets and persons were looking to do our generally are not looking for a fair fight. They are looking for ghostlike type of soft targets. So that's why we have to make sure were taking the steps and doing whatever we can to keep our children safe. A lot of school communities are doing the training that teachers and staff, and when the kids are old enough teaching them as well. How to respond and what they need to do. We need to take steps to protect ourselves because there's a saying in law enforcement when seconds count. Please are just minutes away. The first line of defense is going to be the people on the same John your expertise this morning on the Brian kill me show was so important. Great to visit with you again and all the best, be well you to thank you Sir we will be right back much more important content straight ahead.

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Your participation in your listenership go to Orlando Florida and welcome Judith to the Brian kill me, Joe, Judith, welcome. I am not the amazing crass skin, but he is a friend of mine, so I don't need to be the amazing Kraska in the know what you want to talk about. Time is yours, share your thoughts and why we don't have metal in the school saying we have been in Washington DC we have an airport and why not protect their children shut the doors you turn it the detectors on if anybody comes then set off an alarm clock.

All the doors automatically got Judith, I would say this, it's the amount of metal detectors in our schools is more than zero, but it's not it's not as though there aren't metal detectors and in a lot of the larger school districts.

There are metal detectors.

The key also is they have to control II think you have to have basically one way to enter and one way to exit and if you're working in in facilities. You can't prop open a door. I mean if you look at the video and Fox news has been showing the video, this shooter had an easy time getting right into the school. So if you have metal detectors in the front where people go through this guy looked like he got in. No problem at all and that that's a big problem as well.

So they have to but not down tight but I do agree with you. Honestly, metal detectors would be very very helpful, but you have to make all these other exits and entrances. You know how schools are set up.

If they have gymnasiums they have the ability to just get him through so many doors.

They've got a tight knot down maybe like Joe Clark what he did in in in his day as soon as a principal quick closing comment.

Judith are you there we got to think why all the exits and entrances and insurance and expand child life is priceless and so do it. You know, no matter where they come in no.net certainly thing to set off a metal date after I would think Lynette was anything metal.

Now it's plastics it would be maybe an issue. They also have some of these units have the ability to screen them as well with the x-ray capability in case it say plastic type situation you to thank you for listening. The Brian kill Michelle excellent point that you made is something that can be done in the federal government would have to fund what is an investment looking at will be back which left Lowery's Nexus ranking Michelle tasks networks � Fox News contributor and editor of the transom.com daily newsletter. I'm inviting you to join a conversation every week.

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We have an important topic but of course I'm to give Rich an opportunity to comment about what happened yesterday. Every single American were mourning for the families.

Everybody that's a parent or grandparent and uncle and aunt, you just can't even process the incalculable unbearable loss so will give Rich an option to comment on that rich, welcome to Brian's program and grabbed me I'm looking for AME at unspeakable literally horrific people now just an ingrained part of American culture for certain friendship disturbed her disaffected hateful young man that this is something you do to gain notoriety or as a form of committing suicide.

And I just think the Columbine shooting, was one of the worst event in American history the last 50 years, not just for what happened at Columbine, but for creating this. This predicate predicate and putting this in the mind of these young men and I don't stop it now begun.

We can argue about the gun but just to get everything they want to make a difference and what else can you do. You know I had come back to the community to Harden their schools more. Make sure there's an armed guard at the front of the doors that horrible imagery at the big expense.

Probably a lot of communities, but I other than that I don't know what what the answer is Pres. Kennedy.

I think it was Rich who said something along the lines he was asked about his own mortality and that he was he concerned that you know he could be assassinated and you basically I believe took the position that if one person is willing to forfeit their life is very hard to stop someone like that. Yeah, he was wrong about presidents right is one person, the huge apparatus around them. But can you do that in every school in America. I mean that. That's the problem, and it so random you know it could be it anywhere in any school at any time know if you knew what was what target would be. I think you have to try to harden it. You have to find some of you that the hope of countercultural predicate can cut it burned out. Find a way to Push back against it. You know, one idea I have this you know that the next kid. It does this in an and killed you know you get a source jumpsuit getting doing a public service message about the most terrible thing that he never should've, you know you spun out of control. He never should've done that feel regret everything a minute of his life and hope maybe you reach some kids might be thinking this way and everything is we don't know a lot of details about the background but very few. In this case, but very often there signs and note that will probably was on social media so you just need you know if your family member or neighbor that you have a question. I wonder if this kid is capable of such a thing, or could spin out of control.

Yet you tell the authorities know that the default have to be towards telling the authorities and taking it seriously at that stop everyone of these attacks. It might help at the margins, but again this is just a hell of a problem that held one problem literally and I don't have the answers.

I don't think anyone does is rich Lowery on the Brian kill me. Show news maker hotline one follow-up but I think you covered a lot of what this follow-up would entail pushing just one extra step in the pivot to another topic Rob elementary school and and the site in an evolving Texas as you know of this mass shooting the second worst mask shooting in American history behind only Sandy Hook in terms of the school tragedies that takes place. It seems like just from time to time enough time seems to go by that we go we default back to whatever normal means that it happens again they were on heightened alert and that we default it's it's it like on again off again on again off again is not happening every day. So we have enough time to be desensitized almost again is anything obvious that were not doing that we should be doing. I don't know the on the things I mentioned, I would think every school thinking about how that how the doors are all hardened, you know, within reason. The problem is that elementary school in the community is a community center yell and the kids are in and out during the day and the parents rented out stuff is in and out so you know if you can't have a TSA situation at the front door of his just not plausible, but I think the the armed guard something that they could make a think that could make it a difference. One of the former assistant FBI director Danny Colson and another former assistant director for slacker agree with the Lowery doctrine because what I've learned about these things there over rich within four minutes so you don't have presence already there. Your best shot is reacting after horrible things have happened, and it may be your lucky like yesterday, a member the border patrol tactical unit responded and and apparently took out the shooter. Or could it even been worse.

It seems so II agree with that. You have to be more proactive because if you're not, you have no shot being reactive. Their reports are three-minute, you know, that is an unfortunate one noticed drill and take it with with greater once the killer has run into a classroom with with the gun. What what what can you do that you know you're right. You're getting there after horrific mayhem.

It has happened in and got buses. Does this officers got there and took him down. The study is situational and some is barricaded in a room and shooting at you get a couple of the officers were injured but you're right, it's kind of bite because that can happen so fast you can you can be reactive as possible, and you're still you're still coming after the fact and there's no there's no smooth transition from life-and-death to what took place yesterday on election day, but were in the pivot to dateline Georgia with rich Lowery on the Brian kill me child because I'm a big fan of the four stages of the truth in the fourth stage is the truth become self evident and with an increase in voting in the hundreds multiple hundreds of percentile hundred and 68% increase in early voting versus 2018 a, 212% increase in voter turnout yesterday in Georgia versus 2020. I think the whole Pres. Biden Stacy Abrams Jim Crow 2.0. Even though the Georgia law is far superior to Pres. Biden's home state of Delaware. I think the actual results completely cancel out the, the incredibly intellectually dishonest rhetoric of Pres. Biden Georgia and their whole election law apparatus was vindicated yesterday. Rich. Do you agree yeah absolutely Brian a lot about that a lot.

With regard to the Russian hoax. Just one person, just anywhere. I don't care who he or she is, how far down the media. Total pole here.

She wouldn't apologize you. I got it wrong you know I miss informed about this I made bad assumptions about it. I now realize a lot of Jim Crow. I never should've said that. I'm sorry you know we all get stuff wrong� Thought I'd do better next time. Know the memory hole like no one ever said this was Jim Crow or Jim Igor Jim Crow 2.0. Whatever it was. So that's it just infuriating boy clear with the smear ideologically and politically driven smear and whipped themselves into the panic that caught up almost the entirety the media and every elected Democrat civil rights leader in the country and it was that Bill is a fevered let let's say Rich let's call out on me because you are the editor of the heritage I mean a very iconic publication, and I know your work. If you if you put out something and you blow it you come out and say I blow it whether it was Russia collusion hoax or them saying that Hunter Biden was not real in the that it was Russian but it is amazing how they got Russia every which way it's always in their favor. They use Russia because that was Russian collusion until it wasn't Russian propaganda.

Don't they have an obligation doesn't the media have an obligation when they it's not in an editorial that they were running these were run as news. So give Brian's listeners a rich gnosis all too well is the editor of the national review. If you get the news wrong.

You're supposed to express to me like an ombudsman there supposed to be a corrections page you correct it.

They will not correct it rich playwright and I wasn't just look at the New York Times had multiple op-ed columnist was Jim Crow, but that was in the news pages. The headlines all bought line you think are the the story that this was surprising that the black vote and there is a story the other day, two days ago so about the surgeon early voting that mentioned the surgeon early voting, but didn't go back and say oh, a lot of people thought the swallow could be Jim Crow about suppression to like it didn't happen. Just another reason I mean there many, but another reason why the media has zero credibility as an institution has been steadily destroying itself the last 30 years which I will bring out the happy days defense. Now this is the happy days. Arthur Fons rally the Fons in Bermuda shorts, a leather jacket. I think you know where I'm going. He's on water skis and he's ready to jump the shot versus common famous lexicon. When a TV show or some event craps out because they make some kind of fatal mistake. It's called jumping the shark. I submit to the great rich Lowery on the Brian kill me show today here right now that Stacy Abrams jumped the shark when she declares herself as the Democratic nominee for governor of the great state of Georgia and she comes out and says, quote unquote, this is not sliced and diced that Georgia is the worst state in the country to live in. She jumped the shark. Do you agree or disagree deplorable, like moment.

I don't think you don't win it here anyway I think you know that the voting stuff is been embarrassing for her major-league baseball pulling out the All-Star game was embarrassing for her and I care would then produce was announced again. Brian You know usually add to that the primer is very bad for you and I Came out flying colors. I think that in a really strong position and will beat her in the fall and it will be a just and righteous victory for Brian Stated that top everything else election truth or never admitted that she lost fair and square and 20 18th that she deserves to lose and will jumping the shark I met Fox years ago Henry Winkler delightful guy talk delightful guy, yet easy strategies, kind, kind, good man so let me do this for Brian's listeners. I think you know all about this and some of you may have heard it, but you may not have heard precisely what happened here to play two clips back to back and have the great rich Lowery respond to it to see if any rehabilitation happened or if the early doctrine the gas filling guy on Brian show is right with the fact that Stacy Abrams jumped the shark and all. I just want to sleep in a quick little sidebar. I couldn't agree with you more.

She lost by 55,000 votes.

It was more than the contested ballots that were left. She never conceded to this day. She says she was cheated, but if you say you don't agree that Joe Biden one, my gosh, you committed a high crime and misdemeanor but they can say Hillary is never conceded to trump 2016 Stacy Abrams is never conceded, and ending make it like she lost dislike excruciatingly selection sorry 55,000 votes is in close right so let's go on to this Eric if you would, let's begin will do it chronologically so that no one can say on the Brian kill me, show that Stacy Abrams was misrepresented cut 20 I am so tired of hearing about being the best in the country to do business and we are the worst state in the country to live. I that's rather unambiguous and real problem and I'm to stick with my Arthur Fons rally happy days. She jumped the shark it's over and I agree with Rich. She wasn't a win anyhow.

But they can just finish her off with this just time and again you're running for the top spot in your state and you say you're the worst state in the country live that that is really disqualifying.

So here's what she tried to do rich.

As you know, she tried to get out of it and here we go. Cut 19 delivery of a statement that I will keep trying a failed governor doesn't care about the people toward okay so it's not the worst state to live in the country anymore. Rich Lowery.

It's now Brian Kemp is a failed governor who doesn't care about the people of Georgia how did she acquit herself well elegant great time there really definite and time gets definite, and it's a one-day story and it's gone, time to step in. It was become become a theme used against you, and they clearly that the latter case that this is the statement of the ringing in your ears clear through November rich close out in 30 seconds and in today's interview with your comment on how important was Georgia showing that their new election laws work work well and encouraged huge increases in terms of voter participation.

What I think it showed how carefully flawless crafted. There's something there in the initial version are so great you know crackdown on Sunday, early voting, which people interpreted as a shot whole holes in the African-American turnout.

Traditional church turnout on Sunday to check that out yet. They went through very carefully and then they got smeared and I got smeared from everyone, Stacy Abrams, the present United States to corporate America and Delta major-league baseball and the ground. They didn't back down at all. There was any hint, there go back and change that work. They knew they didn't need to improved out so big congratulations to everyone down there we love listening to you on the Brian kill me shall have a great day. Thanks much you to welcome when we come back it will be your turn to play on the Brian kill me show the phone lines are open 866-408-7669. This is the Brian kill me, show us all the right to kill me. Will came close to Fox and friends weekend as I share my thoughts in a wide range of topics in sports and pop culture, politics and business subscriber list just the more you listen more, you'll know it's Brian kill me. Welcome back to the Brian kill me show with Allison and Erica Terry Hurley will be back tomorrow just out today to your calls we going to Brian kill me. Tell Richard listening to Brian kill me show WHI0 welcome to Brian kill me.

Tell Richard hi there, thank you. Good morning morning. I just want to bring up a point.

I think that the country is missing out on a vast resource to help protect schools. You have a lot of veterans who served the country when they were in the service that are now retired. Now I was in the Army infantry, artillery, serve five years. Two years in South Vietnam I would be more than happy to volunteer to go to a school couple times a week stand there and guard the school now remedial training and weaponry would certainly be appropriate, but this is nationwide. I mean, you have millions of retired veterans out there that are equally as qualified Richard Lemi, were in the final 30 seconds.

The hour first, thank you for your service. Let me begin with that and I hear this from great men like you. Great people like you that have served that are willing to serve again. That would have to be harnessed.

There have to be away for boards of education and everyone to figure out how do you make this work.

And as you know there are some people adverse to any type of paramilitary presence. There's just a whole conversation that's going to have to take place that shows you the greatness of our veterans who have served that they step up like this and I agree with Richard. There are veterans all over the country with which to serve. We will be back in just a little bit. This is the frying film, Fox news radio Studio City New York City giving you opinions and facts with a positive approach. Brian kill me, welcome to the Brian kill me.

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The pedigree is his incredible conference tubing welcome to the Brian kill me show you every now let's talk about the obviously and can open up with the horrific mass shooting that took place yesterday in your volley Texas at the Rob elementary school heavy on everyone in America's hearts and certainly the 19 children and their families. The two teachers and their families and those of the latest numbers and I'm aware of but we keep close tabs because obviously there are other people to been hurt what what is your opening comment about that Congressman first thing you know you have to say is how heart-wrenching has to be on those families. I have an 11-year-old son even fifth grade elementary school and to be a parent with that age child to get a phone call like that.

The school of the lockdown. There's a shooter on on the school grounds.

I can imagine what parents are going through and my Lord and Savior.

Tell the Blessed are those who mourn for they will be comforted and I surely hope that they are surrounded by family and friends during this very difficult time in my heart goes out to them but to immediately segue ended last night.

Our president immediately segue into a completely partisan attack on law-abiding citizens who every day there's stories about law-abiding for the sins of the concealed carry permit, who defended and protected people, and law enforcement officers who were all attacked in 2029 the George Ford riots who defend and protect people, everything will day I was at the sheriff department yesterday, recognizing a law enforcement officer for his service to our community, and all the awards and accolades that he's received in all the law enforcement officers that responded to the shooting. We think them for putting their lives on the line. Everything will day for being able Lord knows how many of those lives were saved because of the actions that were taken with.

With that said, you know, we don't have all the information we know who this person is what what's his background, I find it interesting the border patrol was there. I have questions about that. Where did you get the weapon. All of those things we we don't have the information on. But what I will say this is the most deadly shootings in Sandy Hook And right before I was in the state legislature in the court, legislature served six years in the state house two years and states that, and I recognize a vulnerability being a military military officer entry officer all I recognize the vulnerability in our own schools and pulled after Sandy Hook and I filed bill after bill, year after year was called school safety in Florida never became law because it was so politicized that wire begin to put gun in our schools and with a bill that would allow for current law enforcement or recurrent military that goes through a school safety specific training program then will work with our school resource officers because in Florida we don't have a school resource officer everything whatever school and even if you have lawn. One guy can't take down a shooter very quickly. It's obvious you needed by the military got to go into the building you are to try to defend lives of people, but having a team of people around you is ideal and I could never get the bill passed, because even Republicans would would get pushed on by the local left. We can't have guns in schools will you need somebody with proper training at these locations to be able to protect her And now again were seeing a circumstance where had somebody been there at that school was properly trained properly vetted and properly armed and we bulking a video of him walking right into the front of the school correct. He probably could've been stopped and lives within things you cannot say Congress and you can't.

And those just tuning in its Brian kill me show with Carson Greg Stu be. You can't argue with that because you know from your military career. The event is minutes long, three, four minutes long.

If you're not already there. You're not getting there until after the fact so that that is I don't how people argue that been proactive would be a bad thing.

We have to definitely do something about target hardening and some of the things that you're very skilled and let me shift gears because you we could take the whole interview time up on that.

Let's cover a few more issues yet because we could. We could just never stop on that. There's so much that you you have the offer on that and and I wish because the American people are looking for solutions and and I agree with you our consoler in chief Blewett last night. That was not the time to be yelling and calling out the gun lobby and and I just was awful awful optics if that was loaded in the Teleprompter. Whoever wrote that should be fired. I think some of that was just our president.

Just like when he was in Asia and he got asked the question basically declared war with China and that it was cleanup in aisle seven when the staff had to correct him because he was changing the policy of United states of America doing This is is this suspension of disbelief conference to be that you don't whatever the president says don't listen to it because you're somebody lately.

The guy they called the Prime Minister, the chief of staff, or someone is going to correct him five minutes later.

This is getting very dangerous.

It is dangerous to have the leader of the free world saying things and in the administration and the like his White House corrective action moments hours later correcting him should give no like assurance to the American people that this president knows what he's doing and knows what he saying and it is backed up with any type of facts or evidence, and if it would be in the reverse is true, reported they had said something talk to the press all the time. They would they would take off with that and there is no backtracking nothing but mainstream media will 100% protect Biden at all costs. Something that everybody in every major media, like all just like that cleanup in aisle 70 mainstream media can back it up and and when asked, impressed by reporters. The press secretary be like we issued a statement on that this is what he this is what he meant to say very discerning to the American people and I think that's why his poll numbers are at a record low. They should be it. You look at the numbers if you like, 39% support him and you scratch your head, Courtney, 39% of people that think he's doing a good job. I know I sense anything on my cost you just channeled inside my head when you just said that we are visiting with Carson Greg Stu be on the Brian kill me to let me draw from your military experience on to other topics because you and I've not had the opportunity talk about either of these in the past. Obviously Afghanistan was a disaster. And of course short attention spans.

Make it forgotten horrific things are going on there. Right now women can't go to school again. It just it's just terrible.

What's going on. And of course our president decided to go in and order of events that even a child would not choose where you would have the military leave first.

I do nothing to secure billions of dollars worth of incredible finest military equipment on planet Earth, and then try to get your people out last. I mean it in the middle there and bring them you know it just it's crazy what all went on their then of course Ukraine the president wanted Zielinski to folding 24 hours that day they miscalculated that as well.

This administration has been spectacularly wrong on everything domestic and foreign, you agree or disagree 100% on Afghanistan as a military veteran who served in the server rack.what an atrocity to the American people and and the whole world watching a disastrous withdrawal or service members were killed that could have been prevented, and Sec. Lincoln was before the foreign affairs committee couple weeks ago I had an opportunity to question him in the first question I have, so were on the same page as we sit here today over six months after the withdrawal Afghanistan.

We still have American citizen stuck Afghanistan behind enemy lines that correct yes. Do they want to come back to United States. Yes that's all you need to know we we literally abandon our own and just like you said like it forgotten now know we talked about before we talk about Caliban $80 billion worth of military equipment and the first hearing that we had Lincoln and shortly after the fall I said your your legacy is going to be the Taliban flying a Black Hawk helicopter hanging at the bottom of the rope because that's what you created by the by this administration's withdrawal and chaotic episode is how they they did if if we are to follow the trunk withdrawal that was 100% conditions based the Taliban didn't attack us when troubles president because they knew they did their homes would be destroyed. So everything with conditions based and to just completely glossed over that because heaven forbid the left do anything that Pres. Trump had put in place as an atrocity and we lost servicemembers because of God knows the human rights atrocities recurring every day there right now because nobody dared to actually tell us what happened to getting one last item we have about a minute and 1/2 and I think this is an important one for you to also share with Brian kill me's listeners the economy. If we go back 15 months ago.

The not selling anything you don't know I'm just forming a question the United States of America was energy independent. A net oil exporter. We had very low inflation probably in about the 1 1/2% range. Very manageable. I could go on and on and on and on and on. Now look at us. 8 1/2% and beyond. While runaway inflation, five, six, seven dollars a gallon gasoline even higher if use diesel. I miss a catastrophe. Give us your best minute or so on the economy in this administration under their leadership, and all of that is 100% because of the decisions that have been made by the Biden ministration and by democratically let Congress.

There is no coincidence that when trunk left office record unemployment rate record of appointment for my new 40 record unemployment all across the board-economic numbers we seen in decades, lowest inflation. All of these huge positive economic numbers and and buying takes over. We do 1.9 trillion to be American rescue plan repaying people not to work just giving away money dumping trillions of dollars on an accounting which is going to cause inflation gas. I don't need to tell you all the disasters.

This administration has made to shut down the domestic production of oil and gas 20 how we were going to it. We are importing it from Russia. All of this is because of the decisions they've made, and I hope the American people will make that clear. On November great visit with you. Congress is to be. Keep up the great work. We need you have a good day sir.

Thank you. You welcome back.

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So if you serve in the military or want to be able to own them at a younger age 30. I think you know the human brain to develop all 27, at 140 younger teenagers and their young adult I think they would mature with agent to be a lot less difficult to keep the higher caliber you know semi automatic out of their hands.

And you know hey Bill, let me jump. Let me jump only because we want to get at least one more call before the end of this segment and I appreciate your call and for your point of view on that that something for all of us to consider.

Let's go to Tom. He's in Long Island on W RCN Tom welcome the Brian kill me show Harry good morning and I agree with you about petering your support staff that excellent yes my point because you haven't got time got let's just start at the beginning okay to make protests over the death penalty okay this big but which cool favoritism. Pro crime will elect them at a jail and nobody pays for this apace for that.

Okay guess what we got just one since less than a year we've got the guy drove down the street we got hit that shot at something and we are you more time.

Next time I promise to do better next time.

A reminder, New York let someone go that shot a cop dropped the charges is a lot to be said for what time to share will be back don't go away trying to show radio that makes you think this is the Brian kill me show welcome back to the Brian kill me show Harry Hurley Dave Ryan will be back tomorrow. Now my partner with now joining us this is this is not work. This is a pleasure joining us on the Brian kill me, show newsmaker hotline is a very long time friend of mine in a great Fox News contributor great Fox News. I may not. Now I call them a war correspondent. I mean, he's been right there doing so many important assignments. Griff Jenkins, welcome to the Brian kill me show Harry. You are too kind. It is always good to talk to my friend and you now here we are breaking news we thought, you know, we would be talking today about the midterms and that was certainly something everybody was focusing on as we are getting ready for another election six months, but breaking news on this tragic shooting in Texas so close to the border you race a great point that seemed all these elections and we were all talking about them in the runoff and would Paxton be able to beat George P. Bush, and how we came to when we win by as much overproduce their all these things that seem so important until they really aren't that there still there, still significant but date. They certainly find your place when you have something like what happened at the Rob elementary school in ufology Texas you know you got great instincts, that's exactly where I want to begin with a great Jenkins give us your comment about things.

Well, you know, Harry, and for viewers or listeners. You may remember me, and I covered a lot of shootings for Greta Van Susteren because I was her correspondent and from you know I tell people all the time I've been saying my private life forever could have covered a lot. Had the opportunity great opportunity for Fox covering a lot of history and stories the hardest one I ever covered was Cindy, where 20 children were killed is tough. It was not the only shooting when I covered the pulse nightclubs in Orlando which I think is still the largest mass murders of nearly 50 people were killed there another 50 or so injured Aurora Colorado movie theater there.

San Bernardino, California comfortable all with my friend Ted Williams he was just just on Fox here the last hour talking about you boldly but you know what would just breaks your heart is in that I know this from talking about seeing the ideas and you boldly you there's grief, there's sorrow. There's tragedy and then there's parents whose children have been massacred and it's just hard to explain how it is a next level of grief and having interviewed some of the parents and seen the other member talk to one mom whose child was killed and she she just, you know, with tears streaming down her eyes. Harry said what I say to you at or near back. I can even tell you how I feel. I'm so just devastated them in their hearts just ripped out and so you know what I saw this story, my heart broke for them and I will say what's unique about this story and I want to give a real shout out to the border patrol agents, particularly that vortex elite unit because having gone through you boldly at least 20 times in my life in the last 10 years covering the border because people don't know this but you see is in an RGB in McAllen or in Eagle Pass, Texas, or in del Rio, well, it's hard to get to these places because her small boulder towns in the almost always flying to San Antonio and drive south and when you go to Eagle Pass or del Rio you go through involving it's just the way the main highway goes and you know it's a great little town of interviewed the mayor thereof.

Interview law enforcement. One of the largest sort of staging areas for border patrol is in you validly and we're gonna find out that many of the children did the least, attend the school are children of border patrol agents and so it was not a surprise to me but I want to give up my hats off to these heroes were border control because obviously they have the same law enforcement radios that are connected with the local authorities. Obviously, in this case under operation lone stars work to working with Texas DPS and local law enforcement agencies. There'll hearing the same reports and obviously the elite vortex unit leapt into action and who knows how many children lives were spared because the board control unit was able to get inside that fourth-grade classroom and stop and neutralize the shooter. I agree with that so completely because then hearing it and this border patrol tactical unit responding and killing the shooter that they different reports have had to have had different numbers but typically these mass shooters have many, many rounds 100+ rounds of ammunition, so he was able to get to kill 19 children. As you note to teachers, so this is right behind Sandy Hook. Which would you mention Griff 20 and who knows the condition of of certain people that were not aware of right now the number is subject to change. So the border patrol tactical unit response and he and you know these things.

I've been told. The average is four minutes so he had whoever this was had to travel to get there and get there in time to stop him before he even did more and these are events that are over, typically in four minutes, sometimes even less so you can, I don't think you overstated that 1 inch how important that was. Let some let's give it to some additional important topics it and and issues that you have been working on.

You know Ukraine, almost like no one in terms of this particular Russia unprovoked attack on Ukraine. What are your observations now that it's gone on for several months and you know these things go. We were just talking a conscience to be on the Brian kill me show that we talked about Afghanistan anymore to get to the part to the point not too long from now Griff were nobody's talking about Ukraine and they're still going out it yell for meet the ministration thought it was gonna be over and 24 to 48 hours. They were wrong about that.

Where are we with this and where are we with the appetite for how long this will keep the attention span of the American people. Well Harry year and things are spot on my friend because I get tanker so the Fox News live Saturday hours out of Washington and suggested that and I'm not sure things will change, possibly depending on you know with the shooting and everything going on but I did plan to try and interview the Ukrainian ambassador to the US is here in Washington to spend typically talk about the concerns of war fatigue and you know what we've seen in the what is now 91 days of the war in Ukraine, we've seen the Russian forces really feel in the Battleford Steve Fay all in the Eastern Don Bass. They have proven to be a a mediocre at best fighting force variable has fallen and now were going to start learning. Perhaps some of the horrors of variable which will match and surpass likely the atrocities always on board. Younger that I saw firsthand, but setting aside for the moment, you will see the. The interest perhaps Wayne because were settling in now to a little bit of a longer war slog as military veterans college because you've got the millions and billions of dollars of USAID with you know the artillery heavy artillery. The javelins set in place in the Eastern Don Bass. And so that's not going to be a quick Ukrainian victory, but people are talking obviously present Zelinski leading ad saying that they can win. But the question is, is the American appetite can be interested in seeing it. If it takes a year and you know the guess is probably not in there was a real sense after you know we were getting like 150 million 200 million that all the sudden the $40 billion support dropped and there was a sort of sensitive okay now they've got what they need and they will continue to you know when the battle against Russia. Let's move on to something else and I think that is culturally present Zelinski in Ukraine's greatest fear is that US and Western NATO allies will lose some interest me while, by the way, present.

Zelinski is really trying to raise attention on the global grain Christ has. Yes, that is coming yet he set that limit in 10 weeks or thereabouts, and 11 weeks where there's gonna be a food shortage worldwide, but you nail it on that analysis, which I'm not surprised you're Griff Jenkins, Fox News correspondent extraordinaire on the Brian kill me show. Let me double down on this because the American people were the greatest country in the history of the world. We are kind we are compassionate when when we choose to be.

We can be. Obviously we can be bad to one another to when we we've seen that yesterday but everything I said is true, but we also have babies that can't be fed because you can't get baby formula. We have 8 1/2% runaway inflation. We haven't broken supply chain.

We have prices that are out of sight I mean is it's going. You know absolutely bananas right now in the American people's daily lives, and I do believe there will become a point time will say hey you know what I swear about taking care of home base. We can't, I can't be my baby so I think that this is a real tipping point in this war. I totally agree with you, and you know it's not just here to living there. There's a real sense I think as we get even closer to the election. For example, you will see candidates talking about you know the concerns of taking care of Americans first and then helping the rest of the world will see where Ukraine stands six months we get midterms, but outside of US.

You are also already seeing some NATO aligned countries, saying, well, things are okay, maybe I don't have to weigh myself entirely off of Russian energy and that's going to be a big part of right like the US can't do it alone position with $40 billion, which is a lot of money. By the way, if we get in the position where the US is looking like really just doing it all ourselves. That's not going to sit well with the American people.

We are glad to do our part and will glad to lead but we don't want to do it by ourselves and Griff as you know, burn rate can be just unbelievable where psych 40 billion where the golf I mean, it can really as you know, go quick when you're looking at these expensive javelin missiles in all these different things.

Let me save time. We got about a minute and 1/2 two minutes.

I think we could stretch on this Pres. Biden China Taiwan international incident that was a big big blunder that the president one word answer yes. And boy did that start problems and of course the staff had to clean it all up really quickly and and try to get the magic eraser out to pretend like it never happened and we didn't change American policy. What is the Griff Jenkins interpretation of what happened there interpretation is you had one job which was to go highlight Indo Pacific trade framework initiatives, which by the way you live Taiwan out of which the Wall Street Journal says you should put them in there to begin with one job was die like that and what you do you come back with major questions about the US is position towards Taiwan breaking from our ambiguity that we have previously all is said and by the way while he's there with record gas prices. He says oh by the way, this is just something that Americans will have to endure will be better after it's over Paddington well. It will either Griff he made that like a strategy of raising the price and it's going to hurt for a while.

It's going to hurt but it will be okay and better in the end because we won't have the reliance on fossil fuels.

That was incredible misstep incredible blunder. It was a domestic blunder wound up born trip and remember Biden billed himself for years as a foreign policy expert. He was cannot do all the woes that Pres. Trump had initiated, but here again I don't think there's any way you can chalk the first Asian trip as president for Joe Biden as a success.

I would concur my friend Griff, always a privilege to interview with you. Hey listen here.

It's great to be with you and hope you and your family have a wonderful and safe Memorial Day weekend.

You do the same, my friend.

Be safe out there.

The great Griff Jenkins Fox News correspondent extraordinaire.

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This is the Brian kill me show you something new every day. Brian kill me show breaking news unique opinions. All Brian kill me show welcome back Brian kill me kill Harry back tomorrow and Eric, your selection for talk radio were to go right back your calls to Barry in Los Angeles, California on the Brian kill me show Barry welcome.

Yes, so let her know if it's because they don't want to pile on welding or whatever, but fall squarely on them. How in 2022.

Does an 18-year-old, presumably carrying a rifle get one unimpeded into a school that had nothing to eat. You even need major security you need like fences that are maybe 10 feet high that are not scalable and one entrance that is it's ridiculous, but Barry think Barry, think about this though.

Think about your typical not talking about in larger cities. Imagine the area were talking about small-town area Rob elementary school has a heavily Latino town quiet town of things like 20,000 people. Maybe something like that and you've all the taxes and this is what you see around America. It's not just in your volley Texas you you see it as a very soft target where people can pull right in. Think about your everybody in the Brian kill me universe right now, Inc. about your local community and in rare, with rare exceptions, how easy it is to pull right and I will tell you some districts are very good about unit that the doors are all locked. You sometimes don't even get into the front door you'll buzz in your state your name.

You have to show photo identification and things. I'm just pointing out Barry. It's not unusual for someone to be able to just walk right up and slip right in it it's it's what they call soft type target and this guy obvious.

He knew he looked very comfortable what they say, crashed his car, got out, walked walked right up and I saw the same video on Fox news channel that you saw. You see them walk right in. We definitely have to button that up. Barry, no doubt about it. Gotta tighten that up.

Think about that sheet he couldn't get it done at least half as much. Maybe just as much carnage with a couple of kitchen night that again this is to do it was in 2022. There's just no way that somebody 18-year-old should be able to just walk unimpeded into a school.

Barry, I hear you and that's what people say but look how often it can happen. And that's not just the type of over-the-top heinous horrific mass shootings like this.

It's things you never hear about people that just are able to walk in the just get right in and sometimes are walking right down the hallways and it's a hit or miss. Depending on the school district, depending on the policies that they have in place. We have a very good friend who's an expert in dignity, in in in protecting certain high profile people that are potentially a threat and he explains how you can harden the targets and things like that. That's the kind of stuff in a bipartisan nonpartisan anything bipartisan that still sounds political in a nonpartisan way that we have to approach this.

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I just had a conversation little bit ago with Fox News contributor correspondent Griff Jenkins on this China Taiwan Gath. I mean, this could have been. This could've been the start of anything. A major war.

I mean, this could have been absolutely disastrous.

Of course the quick cleanup right after the big mistake. I you've written about it. Tell us your take on it with a look at this is not the first time that Pres. Biden has put our country at risk to making comments sort of in judiciously, carelessly, recklessly, Harry want to phrase it the first time a course is when he is in Poland and he made a series of remarks. First, calling for regime change, or so it seemed.

In Russia, in other words, implying that Vladimir Putin should be taken out also sort of suggesting that US troops are about to go into Ukraine, whereas of course we'd been telling everyone know that was going to happen and now he goes to Asia and basically throws into will doubt our adherence to what's been called strategic incongruity or whatever incoherence is ambiguity. In other words, letting the Chinese continue to guess whether or not will come into the aid of Taiwan should they invade that separate nation. What I like to think of as a separate nation.

The Chinese don't view it that way and and here's the problem.

I mean he's done this several times regarding Taiwan. We have an established policy. As mentioned, the strategic ambiguity. Biden continually says yes yes that's our policy. But then he also goes often says when someone asked him. Yes, we will come to their aid. Militarily thing is actually start off by saying this could've turned out badly.

We don't know how it will turn out. As it is another sort of card in the deck that is being assembled by presidency to to argue that they should be invading Taiwan will why would he do that now. First of all I think you could make the case he could make the case that America is really bogged down in Ukraine that isn't it were not there militarily but were providing an awful lot of military hardware.

We just spent or signed on to spend $40 billion in Ukraine which I looked, I think, is like 1/3 of their GDP. Having a steadfast number for what were trying to accomplish in Ukraine and I think you know from presidencies, but if you were pretty distracted him into it. If he were to invade Taiwan.

Now, what would that lead to. I don't know, but I'm not sure that would really be able to rally the kind of defense for Taiwan that we would need to. And by the way, I have spoken to military people who tell me were not even close to ready to defend Taiwan. In other words, if you really want to deter Pres. Jean from doing something that really would create a crisis. I think globally we should have missile batteries close by.

We should have all the kinds of weapons defenses that Taiwan would need to help fend off what is. I gather a very robust attack apparatus that China already has in place. It wouldn't surprise any of us to find out that were way behind the curve on this, but if you're going to go over there and act all bravado and sort of like oh yeah were ready to do this, we better be ready to do it and I don't think we are. But let me just make whether their point presidency right now is in a very ticklish position.

He wants to be made president for life.

In November we all know that that is coming up, but China is in trouble MA for the first time a very long time. They're not growing they're not meet their growth expectations. They've got this ridiculous zero Cove id policy, which is led to the lockdown of millions, tens of millions of people and in Beijing and Shanghai and tremendous economic disruption. Why because there there vaccine which I wrote about many many months ago doesn't work Karen so you what the Chinese aren't stupid, they realize it does work very well so them about vaccine and in particular their older people haven't got back said so there are tens of millions of Chinese people at risk from even omicron and I say that because it isn't as violent or deadly as a Cove in 19 so that's a really huge problem and then of course he has struck out against attacking the tech sector. Their biggest best group of companies and so you know it's all on him. I mean I think you're seeing some doubts being raised in China for lot by the first time a long time about she this is not a time to put them in a corner. Liz speak on the Brian kill me show on the call this the Ron Burgundy anchorman doctrine.

If it's in the Teleprompter.

He reads it he makes mistakes, particularly when he goes off the Teleprompter or if he is an impromptu typesetting like he was when an industrious reporter asked him a question. See if you agree with me on this. I think that this is defendable.

What I'm about to say there's something that's not right. There is some kind of acuity issue, not a Dr.'s are not qualified to to confirm that, but sort of you know it when you see it and it seems like when he's asked the question they posted almost giving them the answer they want and then he says yes to it. That's very dangerous and that's what I think keeps happening.

Well I don't doubt it. I mean, I don't think that look at what we know is he can't go off script is people don't want to go off and there's a reason for that. The reason is often comes up with things that are again careless is the word I use reckless I think is also appropriate. It's not well-thought-out. He doesn't have the quickness of mind.

At this point to be able to source scope out what my saying is this how what are the ramifications of being asked in a making this determination, he can't do that in sort of real time and so he gets himself in a box. I don't think you're wrong I mean when when you say are you willing to defend China militarily is a yes or no answer and he said yes to gravitate towards her. Yes, I mean you know when you started when he was first in the Oval Office and he was going to meet with that are imputed nice to joke about how I was really afraid he'd end up giving away Alaska because it said Pres. Kimball Alaska who knows he might say yes I who knows that this guys that I do next. I I really don't joke about it anymore because I think the severity of his decline, which I think we all see and the ramifications of it are just horrible and I think United States is becoming sort of a laughingstock.

They said that when Trump is present. I think now it actually is true. Countries around the world. Particular enemies or look at this bumbling confused person and saying this is the president of the United States and it's really worrisome.

See if you agree with this and and then I'm going to your second article abide in solving America's labor shortage and not it's not good news at all because if you can solve America's labor shortage by what he's doing in destroying wealth that is very negative strategy.

Indeed, what you just jog my mind mind my memory about something everything that Trump my former boss was accused of in advance and during his presidency did not happen. Putin wasn't even looking at Ukraine. I believe if Trump won a second consecutive term. He's going to get a second term. It was just me. Nonconsecutive. But that's a throwaway line. I do believe it, but I know he would've gotten a second consecutive term, we wouldn't be talking about the new $40 billion contribution that were making to Ukraine because potent wouldn't of done it. I don't believe he would've done it.

Everything that we were supposed to fear. It's kind of Reaganesque Reagan was can be a cowboy and dangerous and get us in the nuclear war, and all these things never happened, he was actually very good on foreign policy had a great team.

Trump also put a great team yeah of experience.

I know you know this listener you've written about a great team of experienced people. Biden it's amateur hour energy secretary does not have any millions of gallons barrels rather a day we use of oil.

This choker Buddha judge. I mean, he went away for three months and nobody even know it. I mean it's unbelievable what's going on so it's it's the exact opposite Liz speak everything we were supposed to fear about Trump is playing out in reality with Biden. I totally hundred percent agree with you and also all the discharges of massive lying and so forth. I was sitting at my desk this morning thinking about major lies that Biden has told Trump that definitely fibbed I would say there more fibs about the size of crowds and sort of silly things finalized profoundly about issues like race and crime and the things that are really important to our country and I don't think it's because he's deceived ammunition possible to me for a free sample I was reading this morning about a hate crime statistics and how I'm kind of always implies a white supremacy. Of course, is the worst thing that could possibly threaten our nation is just awful and is rampant, etc. and Heather McDonald at city Journal, bless her heart comes up at the FBI statistics that Blacks are committing twice as many hate crimes as whites. We all know this is true, but how can somebody is president continually spool out things you are simply wrong.

Please let me give you this one. How about Jim Crow two point yeah yeah hi Georgia, we now know you I know I know were OXY town. I just love you as a guest. Now you're totally right at me early voting turnout. Liz hundred and 86% hundred and 86%, up from 2018, 212% up in the early voting versus 2020. It's not only not Jim Crow 2.0. It's the exact opposite. This encourages people to vote and election turn out to flourish. They he exactly lies opposite of of what really is is true and and his state of Delaware. By comparison to the Georgia election laws is a disgrace. Yeah I know I totally agree with that at this, there is the big lie. What he calls the big lie.

The Democrats lie about the election outcome not being true and fair. I say the bigger lie is that there was no irregularities in 2020, and it that the measures being adopted by Republicans across a lot of states are are not to make things better. They are making things better and to your point, there is no suppression of the boat. I mean, I think that that is just such a ridiculous thing and I have to I gotta say I hope that camp completely obliterate Stacy Abrams because all she has done in her career that I can see is basically perpetuate that lie yes and any loss by a lot and made it out like it is razor thin. She's never conceded her loss. It's disgraceful.

And now she said the Georgia is the worst state in America to live. I think it's time we say goodbye to Stacy Abrams as a serious candidate like the media has tried to make her yeah I hope so too. I I'm looking forward to that contest final minute or so. Give us give us your best on Pres. Biden solving America's labor shortage through wealth destruction and what looks to be on me were 16 weeks away from potentially being in a recession if we contract yeah well already were seeing some softening of the job market receiving increased unemployment claims and and what had been just a red-hot hiring spree by everybody including big companies like Amazon, now Amazon say, well actually overstaffed now in warehouses and you're beginning to kinda hear these rumblings very minor. So far that job market is still strong so far but is beginning at the edges to soften and I think that's an unbelievable turn around.

The other thing is, are all flawed people who retired during coven because they didn't want to face COBIT also because they had an enormous buildup in their wealth and guess what that is going away just as fast as an ice cube in August. So 15 seconds it houses is over, the Republicans have already one house that that's not stoppable at this point the Senate is more interesting pensively if you told me who wins Pennsylvania and Georgia.

I will tell you who will have the majority will the Republicans hold Pennsylvania and can Herschel Walker beat Rafael Warnock in Georgia. I am pretty optimistic about Pennsylvania you have two good candidates yet either one or wins I think wins that seat and I can't imagine that Warnock is going to be is going to win. I think he's a terrible candidate, but I'm not as sure about Georgia yeah let me agree with you I think I think were to be okay and I think that campus can be very strong and he'll help. Well, I think hi Chris, I always enjoy our time together.

Have a great day hate you too.

Thanks for having me. You're welcome pleasure as Liz speak and this is the Brian kill me show your knowledge base.

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Typically leave you also been absolutely and also one more thing yet is that TRT teaches hate yeah CRT though this child is 18 heating grow up with CRT maybe got it late in in in his young life which Barrett will, he made it to 18 years because of what he did yesterday. I think it's an excellent point that you make. Gotta look at a lot of factors you have to look at the upbringing, is it stable, is it unstable also to with social media footprint being the way that it is and with and with the younger generation. Janet, as you know, we thank you for the call. I'll say this to you as I say goodbye with the younger generation that is so incredibly technologically. I mean there there probably on their third digital devices, whether it's an iPhone and iPad, laptop or desktop. They are on some kind of digital device for more than 1112 1314 hrs. a day you get into sort of a non-real world of things where I think a lot of that plays into this week. What we have to do we need a nonpartisan conversation in each state, and national dialogue on the topic and have to fix this. There are things we can do that. We haven't been doing. I will tell you my home state of New Jersey has some credibility and Gov. Phil Murphy joins us.

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Tell Harry Hurley the honor of filling in today for my great friend Brian kill me. Who will be back tomorrow on thousand feet and Eric is this incredible team of the Brian kill me show joining us now on the Brian kill me, show newsmaker hotline to term 56 governor of the state of New Jersey Gov. Phil Murphy is also a former United States ambassador and make sure we listening these are my words, not his bees.

Gov. Murphy has never said this anywhere that I'm aware of. He's never even hinted what I'm about to say but many observers believe. I happen to be one of them that Gov. Murphy may be a future candidate for president of the United States. But that's not try to make news today.

It's just just just something that I just feel joining us now in the Brian kill me, show newsmaker hotline is my friend Gov. Phil Murphy Gov. welcome and I don't want anyone to think that I flipped to a 20 to give me a better introduction. You're welcome. Sorry you did not, I will testify to it under oath before your Atty. Gen. and my attorney general. Go Murphy America obviously is in morning we we grieve for what has happened. We we we just it's unbearable it and imagine the families because I know you've dealt during many instances, COBIT 19 pandemic youth youth called every family that's lost someone you so you know, and I also mentioned to her listeners governor right before you arrived that New Jersey you New Jersey you have credibility regarding detecting threats and where when possible to delay threats and to how to achieve potential target hardening and things like that New Jersey is a model in many respects, and I had an expert on this morning that talked about and agreed with that comment that I just made what are your opening comments relative to yesterday's mass shooting attack in you all the Texas Harry. You have to start with the precious precious lives lost in the family and friends that the block behind the shift on speakable God bless those little kids goblets the educators again.

The brothers and moms and dads left behind. Fred Gartenberg is a very close personal friend. He lost his daughter, Jamie was murdered in Parkland and we just have some modest window into the grief the reality that those families will be living with. So, most importantly a personal income + secondly I'm proud of what we've done, a New Jersey with tightened things up here. We have a lot of police today, for instance out there with no specific threats but hardening or target is are our schools.

I had a regularly scheduled meeting this afternoon, which I always have before Memorial Day unit, you know, the Jersey shore in our state parks and lakes are huge tourism spots. We always have a pre-summer kickoff security briefing and today will be a little bit you have a heavy dose of schools that say certainly whether it's New Jersey or whether it's America, we can't keep answering these unspeakable tragedies within action but has to happen here former colleague in the State Department used to so you can you can answer something with nothing.

We have to act. I know the steps that we should take a New Jersey thought them to speak to them in a few minutes at a press conference, there are steps that are that we could take as a country that are overwhelmingly supported by folks on both sides of the aisle. Please God. See tragedies when it was Buffalo a couple weeks ago whether these precious kids yesterday. Please goblets to something I completely agree and I meant to send it to you and I apologize because it would've been great if you saw before I comment on it, but I wrote a piece this morning where I talk about the fact this has to be completely nonpartisan.

We gotta put the politics away. It cannot be about winning cheap points. It can be about a political agenda. I too believe there are things that we can do. We can't stop everything if one person is willing enough to just be absolutely crazy. It's very tough to be right. 100% of the time, but if we look for example in my peace. I talk about. Look at the success record. We have had since September 11, 2001, more than 21 years.

Gov. Murphy where the terrorist enemy has not succeeded and you know they're trying every day. In fact, just spoiled a announcement of the spoiled ISIS potential plot to assassinate Pres. George W. Bush been successful because we were totally nonpolitical America, which united the two political parties did their job and they put the health department homeland security together did other things to address because we got caught with with with our pants down the terrorist enemy did something we didn't even think people in an and inhumanity civilized humanity would ever do and use our own planes filled with a belly full of of of high burning high temperature jet fuel and and use them to kill thousands of Americans and as you know, many thousands have died over the past 21 years from the poisons in different things and so many hundreds of New Jersey for the last absolutely no so we need.

I think we need that kind of will.

What you think about that tell me I like. I will read that piece and I like the analogy, I think two things of these may sound like there are at odds with each other but one I think we have to be very clear about why progress is being made and objectively. Anyone who tries to score a political point in the aftermath of this should be a special place in hell for those folks, so that's not the point about it is to be very clear about why this has not happened and that I think. Secondly, the opposite of scoring political points. Someone I think this is time for leadership both sides of the aisle to to make a stand that is explicitly against their personal political interests where they actually pay a price, but they prove that they are willing to pay that price because they want to protect innocent lives in this country. I think that's a sort of leadership. I don't care if the Democrats or Republicans, but that to me is the sort of leadership that we need right now. This is the Brian kill me shell on the right. Kimiko newsmaker hotline is New Jersey Gov. Phil Murphy you are investing you are doing new investments in police and firefighters in New Jersey including something that I I've never heard of before. I don't know if this is a first of its kind. But you're including in this all a plan that your negotiating with the New Jersey State PDA, which I think is very important because if if they have buy-in. That's a whole lot better than some dictate that that could become problematic for actually a new statewide licensing system for law enforcement tell us about it. It's something that were proud of folks who would seem to be on opposite sides of this have come together in common cause and we announced last week that we are actually going to go forward and proceed with this requires legislation so it's not a done deal yet, but there is buy-in in the legislature and as you rightly point out the big police unions of the biggest of which are state is the PBA have been at the table and have been really good about this and you know the faith leaders were community activists particularly disproportionate. A rightful representation from the black and brown communities and and ironically Harry and you and you are both proud New Jersey is we love to say all the time were number one the soul top five, but that this one will like to most of the majority of other states have this that that's the that's the bad news for us that were like the good news is when you're late. You can look at every other model that's out there and pick the very best so I think were to have the very best licensure laws in America and and it's good for everybody.

It's good for the communities of our police so bravely serve it's good for the overwhelming amount of majority of police who are put on their uniforms every day, putting their lives on the line doing the right thing. It's good, it's overwhelmingly good for them as well. Some very proud of the stuff were taken at long last, I don't know for sure, but a little birdie told me is a something along the lines of every three years or something public safety officer would have to be relicensed, but then they have to be that they have to be deemed to be worthy of that and and and there are a series I think area of 11 different types of behavior that would be either disqualifying for that renewal or count against that renewal and and again you got the overwhelming amount of cops out there, led by great union leaders who solicit 99.99% of us are doing the right thing. This license will shine a light on that people will know that were the good guys and good gels because we wouldn't got this license in the first place, or wouldn't have gotten it renewed after that if we were doing the right thing so that that's that's a big part of why they got to support this and I give them of the community leaders with tremendous amount of credit visiting with Gov. Murphy of New Jersey on the Brian kill me show do you believe you have the support of the legislature to make this happen will put words in their mouth but we had both the relevant chairs standing with me. We made this announcement so we had we had community leaders.

We had the big unions and we had both the chair of the interstate assembly of the chair in the state Senate standing with me when you have that happening at that level. It is typically if not overwhelmingly likely that working to get this significant to my desk. I'll be able to find that I want to speak to legislative leaders. But that's the sort of tableau when you see that you know some goods can follow Gov. Murphy. Every listener throughout the country today on the right.

Kimiko would love it to be there. Gov. and then talking about property tax relief for the for the citizens of their state because this is awfully something, especially in this current environment where things are very expensive. As you know when somebody different everything from gasoline to food everything what is your property tax relief proposal is a bludgeon � affordability and opportunity are the two words that scream out in terms of our budget and and and what informs us so so we were not the low-cost state in America to live in our bumper sticker is the number one state in America to raise a family and were proud about. And that goes you know what underpins that is number one public education in America top five health systems great quality of life, location, talented location of the two other words I use a lot of we invest heavily in that folks are willing in a state like ours.

They're willing to pay for the bumper sticker that want to make sure it's good value for money in New Jersey now for the past several decades has gone off the rails in terms of that that value equation on proud that we've had the war not now will be the five lowest increases in property taxes and modern history of the state, but it's not enough. We want them to go down now. Got something that we propose that our budget and I want to do even more than what we proposed which some call the anchor program for both homeowners and renters up to certain levels of income and these are not modest incomes.

250,000 in the case of a homeowner hundred thousand in the case of a renter you get serious property tax relief by one of the opinion we fully fund this which reads in New Jersey. That homeowner is going to get up to 11 or $1200 of rebate. That's about that, on average, it's 11 or 12% reduction in property taxes. That's never happened in our state. As you will know so this is something were still negotiating but I think the legislative leaders share in that passion that we all want to deliver not just modest increases.

We want to take a huge chunk out of the property taxes folks pay our state governor, I know we have two minutes before your next appointment. Let me ask you to talk about summer 2022 BC the Atlantic City casino industry is very near and dear to me because of my location and and of course very important to the state's leading industry.

They seem to have turned around very nicely post pandemic if we can say that we've gone and endemic. I know that cases are on the rise again, but the seriousness of it seems to be of waned, where we had a day where we had no deaths. I mean, that was fantastic to see.

I guess you take your assessment on the laxity casino industry, and then statewide summer 2022. Incredibly excited for the summer. I think it's good to be a record summer by every measure on the shore in our lakes of our state parks.

By the way, one of the ways were trying to deliver affordability state parks free of charge.

The summer so folks come on out and enjoy the move going among the best in the nation.

The Jersey shore's 140+ miles of magical part of our state. One of the huge tourism drawls like the middle letters Atlantic City casinos are back on their feet, whether it was from COBIT or the awful recession 12 years ago were back Atlantic City's back Jerseys back to shore's back. We get some of the nicest lakes in America is a mention the state parks. I'm incredibly excited.

I want everybody to enjoy the summer, but enjoy it responsibly and look out for each other. But I'm incredibly excited about the summer were going to call this weekend. Gov. Murphy great visit with you. Terry section of me so much to Talk again soon we will be back closing comments when we return in just a few minutes you are listening to the Brian kill me show's makers and breakers. First, kill me, show me so busy he'll make dear Brian, kill me, nobody works harder look at the man incredible.

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Thank you Allison today probably be the most self-indulgent I've ever done. When I filled in for Brian as I lost even tell you what station I matter anything on Brian's filling guy.

This is the Brian kill me show that that's that's so important to me and is not just to look good, or for that to sound good. I've lived it. I don't promote promote something that I put up this morning because I think it translates all around the country. Equally, we must properly grieve for the many families whose lives were shattered yesterday. Let me start there.

When an 18-year-old gunman opened fire at the Rob elementary school in your volley Texas. This is not a political issue, and if you been listening to Brian kill me show today, no one has made it a political issue from the filling guy me to Gov. Murphy to everybody else that we've interviewed today on the program. No one should try to exploit it. That it's the absolute wrong and destructive approach to take. We must collectively reject any and all attempts to politicize the strategy because it's a human issue, we must be there for each other. We've got to figure a way through or out of this are things that we can do if we get together just like we did at September 11 when people work friendlier to one another, holding doors open for one another when we were about 94% united as a country you're never going to get 100% of anything we can get barely above 50% of anything anymore.

As I shared my comments with you on Brian show 19 students and two teachers are gone conflicting media reports say that the government's grandmother who he apparently shot first is either dead or in critical condition. Yesterday's mass shooting the second worst in American history behind only in schools behind Sandy Hook elementary school which was on December 14, 2012. If you can believe how long ago that was but it doesn't seem that long ago.

My suggestion is for people of good faith to begin an appropriate dialogue together, we must establish strict ground rules that we can agree on that doesn't threaten civil liberties that doesn't threaten the Second Amendment that doesn't politicize it, for any reason. If we can establish sincere rules of positive engagement, we can perhaps open and intellectually honest conversation that can take shape. Let's focus on things we can agree with. Because no one wants innocent citizens to die. No one wants little babies and little toddlers to be killed. We can put together a plan and work this and improve the situation. I know we can do it for the greatest country in history the world Harry Hurley sitting in for Brian kill me.

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