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Former Senior Adviser to Donald Trump and author of the new book ‘Breaking History' details his time in the White House as well as comments from Chris Christie and Kellyanne Conway about their working relationships.

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Rich Larry the bottom of the hour Jared Kushner in studio this morning to watch Fox nation. His book is already a bestseller and Amazon will find out where it lands on the New York Times list is called breaking history. A White House memoir Jared, welcome is great to be with you Brian. I mean the guy the toes at the nexus of power.

You are very hard interview impossible to interview for the last four years that was intentional right, was an intentional lie. I just feel like there were people who are better at communicating than be my job was to present and execute the different priorities gave me and so I just get, it takes a lot of work to come on in and to make sure euros doing this the right way. Have a lot of respect for the people who were communicators but my job was to be an executor right absolutely so in the beginning you write that you wouldn't tend to really join the president when he was a candidate then you started seeing what was going on.

So, some were places where you could help in gradually. It seemed like you got more and more involved.

It didn't seem like there was one day we said, I want to do it. Can you describe that process.

Sure, sorry I read about this in the book, but I was seeing what was happening with with Donald when he announced, and obviously it became a very hot topic.

I saw somebody say recently.

The last slow news day we've had in this country was June 15, 2015 and that he announced it became a whole thing and obviously the first month was really helping my wife deal with all the fallout that happened to the business because of his announcement.

A Lanka of Anke and Don Junior and Eric and they were dealing with in coming everywhere.

They had restaurants canceling leases they had no corporation severing ties because Trump was saying things about illegal immigration that were that were become a controversial and so I think he lost about $30 million of income in the first week or two and he basically said I don't care. I'm doing this for the country. This is about me. I have enough money in to do. It takes insight. I can watch them do that and then all my friends in the upper Eastside in Manhattan were saying this is a disaster. This is good and I think your post rent.

Bon voyage, she's out and every time they predicted he was gonna fall. He kept rising. I was saying what this is just counterintuitive and so after a couple months. Don said to me said your body. Come join me for a rally. And I said you did be interesting to do and we do know how much longer would last. At that point.

So I went with him that we flew to Springfield, Illinois. I read about this in the book how we get to the around the plane were talking about the grandkids and football I he writes a couple things down it was like he was preparing a detailed speech or anything like that and we get to the convention center in Springfield and the person greets him and says congratulations Sir, you just broke the 36 year record of this convention center. He says will who had a 36 years ago and they said Elton John turns me and says Jared imagine how much better I do if I had a guitar right and so we go in there and he speaks for about an hour, no notes, contemporaneous and just at any he basically was saying things on policies that I'd never really gone to deep on but spoke about common core, which is interesting.

So he says work in an common core and Morgan ascended to the states and the people there were going crazy. They were supporting that surprise you is Jeb Bush was pushing common core that would seem to be Republican tenant of the time. Will wasn't just Jeb Bush, a minute was that you get on the upper Eastside. I felt like I was in a very worldly the first place. Rub you the heads of the banks, the heads of the fashion industry. The heads of the technology of heads of the media. I was at a big charity gala couple weeks earlier without the leaders of very successful business man gets up there and says we are gonna save children in this country we are to create a quality where to save our education system we have to all support common core.

Call your senators call your Congressman. This is a very influential group of people and I said why do they think one thing when Trump is saying. The other thing I was walking around the rally. There is about 20,000 for knowing you are the time nobody knew me as I was talking to people can tell it was people they were all they were young they were mail there female. They were white. They were either black and it was it was a diverse group of Americans who for tonight.

I kind of said these people feel like Trump is talking to them. He's talking about traits and unluckily send your jobs overseas. I'm knocking to send your children to these endless wars and I saw that there is a big disconnect like Brett actually Charles Murray's book coming apart a couple months earlier and that gave me kind of the intellectual framework to see what was happening.

So on the plane ride back so that that that inspired and I realize that Donald was speaking for people who felt like they didn't have a voice. It wasn't about right versus left. It was about outside versus in and also in you chronicling this is so clear and everybody being that I know more people around the organization then just you know collaboration with the Russians. There's no way yet it only absolutely would've paralyzed me knowing that your you had experience in jail you dad went to jail. You know that's like they were lining up the washable's was writing they were taking you to jail for clobbering the Russians you taught you cooperated with them and never happened. Having said that, you still for straightahead and had great accomplishments but the one other conflict you talked about it was how traumatic it was to have you. Dad go to jail and what it did actually end up bringing your family my opinion closer than it actually was in one of the people. There was involved in the campaign was the want to put your dad in jail. Gov. Chris Christie.

Here's what he said in 2019 to actio's about why he wasn't Chief of Staff cut 28 long-term consequences for the president and for the country was. If you have the very best people in front of him to be able to make a full and fair decision about and that he paid the price for that later on with people like Scott Pruitt with people like Mike Flynn go on and swim again.

This is a monumental staff failure that failed the president and as a result, felt the country and he was talking about.

He did the road. He did the pregame case, they win these the people you should hire you look to the bit you look to Chris Christie's book and he was the prize to the preacher Danielle. He said I don't want any of these guys was it personal or was it something about was in that binder. Nothing personal at all you know during a before that Donald accepted Chris's endorsement. He basically called my father and said, know what you think. If you want me to do it. II shouldn't. I want to get my relation with you is a lot of respect and he felt like Christie was a total political animal. He got involved in family dispute and really put a ton of pressure.

My father and I saw firsthand what it's like when somebody is under investigation and when you give a prosecutor with endless resources and endless ambition really trying to apply pressure subpoenaing everyone your company putting pressure and ultimately my father made a mistake and and and and and paid a big price for it, but Donald was very gracious to call and said are you okay with that. My father should hold your father, Donald Trump, call your dad before taking Christie's endorsement will my father said to him was, he said, look, this is much bigger than me very at peace with her. My life is no and I learned a lot from my experience, my life is amazing. I have my family it's it's it's given me a real sense of prioritization to do whatever is best for you and I encourage you to do it.

So at that point I had a meeting I described in the book with Chris and with the and with that with Donald with Cory Lewandowski right basically said look, I'm okay with this and all supported fully in and just, you know, let bloodless put our personal issues to the silence focus on it when Trump one of the book was opened by Stephen Nguyen who is a very competent person, Steve Bannon, Jeff sessions of Mike pence and everyone looked and said these are all of the people from the swamp who basically were saying we wanted to get rid of and and Kristi have to keep in mind at the time he was finishing his term in New Jersey. His approval ratings. I think in the single digits. He was maybe nine, maybe eight, maybe was like the low teens so wasn't like he was the world's most accomplished Gov. Lisa very good talker and so he goes on for for a long time.

Always explaining why things that didn't happen.

If only he would listen to him.

Everything would've been perfect so I just think it's a very self-serving narrative and I I don't buy it at all and I do think again. Trump made the right decisions he makes wrong decisions, but he's an adjuster write his first night that he ever slept in Washington was in the White House and he was not a mayor he was not a governor and I think a lot of it was him figuring out what he wanted. What kind of people he wanted a rounded.

He also brought a lot of outsiders to wash in one of the best decisions I believe he made which was very frustrating because the first year was he basely said anyone who signed one of these letters against him. He was not going to allow to work in the administration if you think about it, to be to work in administration yet to be qualified, how are you qualified to work in the previous administration. So what what that what the voters heated with God by cosigning letters will so there are all these letters that were signed by defense people are no former secretaries basing that Donald Trump was not qualified to be in office and Hillary Clinton will hold them up as campaign tools, but with that basically did was it showed that these were the people from the swamp.

These were the people part of the career political class ended, and it excluded a lot of people who are qualified on paper because it's her before but these people are the part of the Bush Dynasty or the Clinton dynasty and so Trump brought a whole new era of people in Washington who were from the business sector who had created jobs who had gone things and something worked out. Some of them know who we also assume was a disaster described to us and was actually terrible and you keep Kiera problem with you, correct. Yeah, I think it was misguided. We we got along very very well in the beginning because I recognized that he had to get a very big deficiency and that he didn't understand the president and and he I think coming as a CEO of a major corporation. He had a couple things that that which is working against them. One is is is he was a very isolating person. He had a Chief of Staff that basically gets the hall at the State Department lost the will and heart. I don't know. I am sure he put a lot of hours and I think he didn't work efficiently.

But when you run a big oil company. It's different. I think that he didn't accept the fact that his job he was a secretary we don't call the ministers in America we call them secretaries because the delegated authority from the president and he thought that his job was to create the foreign policy any disregard this disagreed with what Pres. Trump wanted to do anything love the fact that you are doing the Abraham cords and working with Middle East PC thought it was a folly correct in the trade deals that you working out.

He he seemed to be doubting you and all of of you every step of the way so I was given two files by the president almost work on the US-Mexico relationship with which you remember the 2016 campaign I orchestrated president trumps a secret trip to Mexico would turn out to be a massive success for the campaign and it surprised everybody in the second one which he volunteered before was Middle East peace and I don't know why he did that. I can only assume he figured it can't get any worse because it was a mess. At the time Isys had a caliphate the size of Ohio around was rich with our allies were betrayed and everyone who worked on it in the past 25 years I read it. Funny story, I meet with the head of the Council on foreign relations and I lay out my approach to him on the Middle East and assemble what you think you have a chance and he says actually not to why so negative.

He says Jared nobody's made any money betting on success from at least the last 25 years and circuits a good point having a scrimmage workout with a 60 secret six peace agreements. I think you got it and unfortunately this ministrations on the cusp of undoing some of it by going back to the run deal will be more back back in a moment with Jared Kushner on the name of the book is breaking history, White House memoir, don't move learning something new every day, Brian kill me show on Fox News contests network Janice Dean Fox news senior meteorologist. Be sure to subscribe to the Janet Dean or wherever you listen to your podcast and don't forget to spread the sunshine information you want truth you demand. This is Brian kill me show so this deal, which was supposed to stop nuclear weapon, where weapons and the memories that the proliferation of weapons of mass death in this neighborhood and beyond, it will actually cause proliferation of nuclear weapons in the Middle East will be crisscrossed by nuclear tripwires.

It will make the Middle East a nuclear powder. This is what you like to use clinical term from psychiatry. This is madness. This is the height of folly the shooting that was binging on Yahoo on Fox and friends one hour ago Jared Kushner here. Jared, one of the first things administration did yours that you, as senior advisor to was to rip up this deal they were using their money that they were making from oil.

We have a cell to fund has bought Hamas Isys chaos in the Middle East pop up beside and you guys tore it up and isolated them the result I probably couldn't do that.

You probably know that any of the Abraham cords that correct no hundred percent so so a person Trump had a fully different approach from not just the previous administration, but from the previous two administration so it really was more of a rebuke of the of the establishment that it was the Democrats and he just saw everything for what it was. Which was that the Randy was an awful deal. He gave them a glide path to nuclear weapon and then he gave them all this money would go back into it it it. I think it's a religious issue.

Maybe it's a pride issue. It makes Apsley no sense from a tactical point view but again keep my these are the same people who did the deal. The first time who are in power now, and I think maybe it's hard for them to see that the wrong coming when when we came in when they were coming and I I said I gave them no briefings and I said guys Middle East is changed fundamentally in the last four years where we came in we had Isys had a caliphate size Ohio series in the Civil War. 500,000 people dead right now we have in the last six months.

Six. Peace deals may be the way to make peace is to keep doing what's happening.

Our vision was to create an arc of stability from Haifa to Muscat in Oman and figure out how you create economic interactivity between them. A flight Stena security and then by doing that you control a rack into that sphere and then over time keep a ran isolated. We we had them basically broke at the time we took the oil down from 2.6 million barrels a day to about hundred thousand barrels a day and let them come to you and then told out the terms that make sense were there not have a nuclear weapon in the not the cause problem. If they want to join that that the club of respectable nations try to make their citizens better then make that available. You also hit it off with MBS who is sins with Khashoggi and everything like that but he couldn't say the least, a controversial figure will see see somebody you doing business with now is in the private sector. So right now, obviously being successful in that region was because I was able to work with all the great leaders who just had Bibi Netanyahu on BB is an absolute historic figure in your bedroom when you were happy about, but even more than that.

Look what he's done for Israel. With regards to creating economic stability and an economic thriving there. When he was the economy minister was done as as Prime Minister to be a powerhouse you and him you had Mohammed been sired yet MBS exchanging Saudi Arabia the way we got these deals done as we had all of the right people in the right places at the right time working together to do the right things and I think that that the momentum we did what was incredible I when I left government office. I was a businessman before and I'm a businessman now my life that I could be doing the diplomatic work anymore. Even though there was so much momentum and so I was very fortunate that that that that PIF, which is their their sovereign fund, which is one of the top tier investors in the world is willing to invest with me and were investing Israeli companies American companies were trying to use economics to bring people closer together because when people have ties they're less likely to go to war. And so that's that's been a lot of a week working on that's true when you look you right now. Why do you think prison Trump lost and do you think you lost the election so I I think that what he accomplished over four years was extraordinary and that was one of the primary reasons why write the book I think that the media for four years was focused on chasing fire engines and trying to drive sensationalism and he got to the point where it really wasn't real news and what Pres. Trump did was not an accident right we had the wealth gap was shrinking, wages were rising especially for for for for the middle class. Inflation was low gas prices were low of the world was peaceful, you know wars in Europe. China was under control and so for me, a big part of it was to say these policies worked as governance work. I think that what happened when we had co-fitted was they did the Democrats basically use that as a as a as an excuse to change a lot of the voting rules you have time to notice after January Bobby before or after the election. You do said this is it was a weird election. No doubt about a lot of mailing votes but I never heard from you after, and I assume because II think the president lost the election, you feel as though he lost the election look that Joe Biden is the president today and it's a and he is an Apsley awful president. It is it is it is been terrible for the country at menu again like I see all of the policies we implement to that the reverse like at the border and I went down south me that they ripped everything up. They want because it was Trump policies and now send today I was ever in a reading thing.

The paper you have two young children who die drowning there saying this is a humane policy you have, you know, pure human traffickers, human smugglers, you know that's on the rise. Do your you putting billions of dollars to the pockets of the cartels is make you want to go back again so I believe very firmly that people are supposed to. I do observe her years in an announcement. I believe the people should should should come in and serve and then go back to private sector. Like I said to you if you read the book you see you and by the way writing. It brought back a lot of memories. I kind of suppressed as well write to the degree that the first year was so vicious so hard it up with the investigations and some of the article, subpar people up there was a very hard experience to test to have looking at being called to serve your country is a great honor and it's it's it's a great opportunity to good. I'm so proud of the work we did right now II really am loving the time being a father.

I'm loving the time in the private sector the and and I think that you being in Miami's incredible, and so for me that that really is something where I'm very excited about breaking history than the book chair cushion. Thanks so much. I'll talk to this week on one nation perfect them.

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Brian kill me mining commentary is very simple and boiled over and I write about in my pocket boiled over in oh in this meeting in Karen's office in December 2019 and wanting him as he called me Miss Jared Brad Prescott, Rhonda McDaniel, the head inerrancy still is and Nick Mullaney and Chief of Staff and boiled every Jared Sally had no idea how much healing and caring parent. I don't hate you don't find yourself.

I do understand you where 3+ years interest. The president wants us to work together. All you do is try to get get in my way you roll your eyes. You roll me to present this work together on this detail with you any given arrangement, ensuring that you tell people on the leaker. Of course he had people on the government payroll who were leaking left to right so that uses some of this boring bag with that you write about in your book, Jared Kushner, I have negotiated with him successfully with pharmacy revising prison. Trump's book breaking history there. So of course Killian came out the book last month so you guys didn't didn't see eye to eye on a few things to remember the situation.

Yes, so, so we really didn't work that closely together. You know, we knew she was on the campaign for the last couple months, and instead very good job with the communication she was on television all the time and ended really really sorry that I was jumping ship.

She's she stayed.

She was a little shaky during that time, but she should cut to the right place but but up again. She did a good job advocating for the present on television and then we got the White House was about getting things done. I was more kind of working on policies and getting things done and she was in the munication so she really doesn't show up much in my book, because again I was working on Middle East peace. I was working on securing the border of building the wall I was working on operation warp speed is working on prison reform and I think she's work on other things.

So I got I had no problems with her. I just try to avoid Olympic because she did a lot of interacting with the media. I think she had different think she was working on and I had my own things is work and a guide that you did not see eye to eye with who was in in fighter is demanding who didn't last long when he left the White House. He quickly combined with another book to really hit the president pretty hard.

When he left. Was that like being that you left the business world and then you suddenly had to deal in the White House with Steve Bennett at that time. Ryan's previous who seem to combine against you. So Steve actually was a phenomenal ally on the campaign. He was very helpful with the campaign was extremely smart, yet he he he is a he he was again like I said he was a great partner on the campaign and then we got to the White House. I don't know why he he he he started going after me. I write a scene where I think I tried to mediate between him and Gary Cohen because they were leaking on each other and he basis on the break in half and maybe thought I was siding with them over him, but I think we agreed on while the policies we agreed on securing the border, we agreed on more protectionist trade policy and doubt that we agreed on the deregulation, but all of a sudden I felt like I was again leaked on all over the place and I was very out mail that I never been Washington III didn't talk to the press. It all gets you end and I basically had an inflection point are right about this where I said okay enough I have to fight back in and I can either try to leak back at him, or I could do my game like I said look I can never out legal leaker like him.

If you're not hearts, nodded and you're not good at it. You're never gonna beat somebody's good at it as I basically said look, that the only way that I can I can sustain as I have to get tighter. Just focus on getting things done and that's the best way to do it.

I play the long game and ultimately write what I found with my my opponents I write about the book is that I actually never defeated them what happened was is I was able to kinda create a foundation for myself or I can focus on getting my things done and often they blew themselves up which is what happened with Stephen so the guy I wish and while he was a guy supported his pardon at the end he was there for us and in the first campaign when very few people were and I wish him nothing but the best right saying he's back with the present. He's back tight with the presidency again II you never know what the perception is in and what's actually happening but he's deftly become a very strong voice for Maggie, but what I will say to like he's very big into the ER on our public and Republican Civil War stuff now assisting at Breitbart and I think that fighting the establishment was a good thing, but when you're governing right that what I saw is that the parties are not ubiquitous right the basically collections of tribes and if you want to pass legislation to get things done.

You need to figure out how to unite the tribes and get people together and and maybe that's why he wasn't the best influence when he was in the white and also some of the other battles. Nick Mulvaney had arrival and was possibly only correct you with the referee between them. I had no idea that they were getting low but was a pretty critical time because right after you get on the rush investigation you got the impeachment and you realize these guys gotta find a way you want to get involved in that again so that was during what I call season three write my third year there we have different staff that I saw so many people come and go, that I kept trying to list all I actually got along very well with both.

I thought they both had their strengths but I was in this like weird scene where Mick would come to my office complained to Pat how Pat was leaking on him the power company often complained about Amick was leaking on him Isaac Isley, the president has a pretty existential threat here which is there trying to impeach him. The good news is, and by the way this this happened with Russia. This happen with the Ukraine is like the Democrats would constantly pick the worst things to go after notice joke with Trump on the other Russians I say look good news is, is the going after a private think your most innocent of anything you've ever been accused of right so the impeachment that they chose a stupid thing to try to impeach him on and so we said let's make him pay a political price but you have to make sure you have the right legal strategy the right communication strategy and it doesn't work with the Chief of Staff and the chief legal counsel or fighting with each other and so for me after my first year I try to really stay in my lane a lot more and say your phone was criticized me for getting involved, and by the way, probably rightly so right.

I viewed as a business guy, there's a problem you get involved and try to fix it but the more I try to fix other people's problems, the more they would start leaking on me and resenting. I was involved so I sent kinda got tighter and I saw here that this was an existential threat for the president with the impeachment had to get involved. I tried working with both. It really wasn't working so I I created a separate comms team to come in. II read actually bunch of books on it and I saw how Panetta did it for continent that it was probably one of the top two chiefs of staff that I studied I when I was in there and he basically brought in a lawyer named Shelburne who who reported directly in and they basically created a pod that was able to fight the impeachment bronze guy, Tony said he was phenomenal near Hogan Gidley came and was phenomenal. Pam Bondi, the lawyers and we just pummeled them in and from start impeachment and present Trump's approval rating went up 10 points right and then you had the one at the end of the before you left. And now you have many more now with the raid with the January 6 investigation and now you have the raid on Mara Lago where it stands right now and have you thought about what more you could got done had you not had Ukrainian phone call.

I do not had the phony rush investigation. So II think the biggest impediment was covert right, but by by year three. We'd actually gotten pretty good at it, we reduced to operating in a very hostile combative environment and I think trumpet finally figured out how to move all the levers of power. We had great people and all the different areas of the deregulation was happening amazingly again.

The year before Trump was elected there were 6 million man-hours in America spent complying with the regulations and then for four years you had the first four years in our history where there is a net decrease in our country and the cost of regulations which help small businesses.

It's all coming back to what which which they're putting back which is crazy but but but but but the bottom line is I think COBIT held us back out. We we were very close to Middle East at me. We really had six piece deals for great momentum. I think we could got six more to at least end and I think the other thing that I really wish would've made more progress on was what was was immigration. We developed a merit-based immigration system I got called in after your two again to write about this in the book work, Trump does the shutdown I just got my criminal justice reform done that I worked so hard on. I read I have that almost EIF sessions try to stop you every step of the lot of the chest sessions McConnell again and by the way the Democrats to John Lewis tried to stop it a bit.

We we we work through and it was really like standing on a ball and navigating we got it done incredible 87 votes in the Senate with an asterisk is I think were voted against 60 was posted Tapscott on something at Lindsey Graham's and Afghanistan's would have 89 but I'm not bitter about that, but that's we get that done. Trump calls me a couple hours later and says are you working on immigration so Kelly told me not work. He's a look I'm here for two years. I don't have a wall of Kelly's failed me. Bandits fail me know.

He's got me the wall. Ryan Paul writes his congratulations you're in charge of loss at home.

Okay so so I worked actually, what with Mick did a great job and a civil only did a great job. You repurpose defense spending if they would give you more .1 .4 1.8 you repurpose defense spending in order to build a wall we used. We found a lot of different change under couch cushions. We got it will have to end and I see Stephen Miller was very helpful in and we we spent.

We got 470 miles done by the end and we had another 300 miles, which would've really secured it that that the bite administration scraps open to any paper ready but we paid for everything that was paid for the rust in the desert right now.

I guess that's the policy I don't understand it.

And by the way border what I've coming from New York. People said the border Xena phobic. It's racist is a very common sense things. A physical barrier to protect your sovereignty and to allow porta patrol agents to have more utilization and but the one that I also regret was we developed an amazing merit-based immigration system, which Trump referred to as the big beautiful door. We want to welcome people to the country but he wanted them to come legally and you want people who work in a world your GDP grow your wages not depress wages and we really developed an amazing system that I think would've actually been phenomenal for for our country. I really hope one day get simple.

This is why Anthony found she said this yesterday on our channel by cut 18. Do you regret the shutdown the sweeping shutdown that some said made things worse. No III don't nail, and in fact I think we need to make sure that your listeners understand.

I didn't shut down anything that was a lot of consideration among the White House task force that we were reaching the point where the hospitals such as in New York City and other places were being strained to the point of practically being overwhelmed to bring us inside those meetings would see pushing so so personal. He's master with words and be in all sides of things but but I cease in the beginning, the first 15 days that we did to slot stop the spread that that made a very big difference right the hot that the that the rate of growth and spread of the virus was was huge. The hospitals running at capacity and we did not have enough medical supplies in the country to deal with it so but by doing the first 15 days we got people to come and stay in place a little bit more that enabled us to to to stimulate supplies and can I go through this in the book how we did it we were facing improbable challenges. We got all the bureaucrats out of the way we brought private sector in the military in and we just made miracle after miracle after miracle happen in order to get the supplies we needed to different places not right, but how we did up. It was very very improbable those things. After that it became. I think the media weapon eyes coated against Trump in a very aggressive way. Writer think he did to his. He had a lot of friends in the media yet get yet Gov. Cuomo says I was going I was back during the administration without he spent an awful lot of time talking with the media can use my office.

Once his phone rings. It's your pictures of Jim Acosta. I read about this and it's like, come on man, like were supposed to all be on the same team in this the pandemic. Let's put our jerseys aside and let's focus on going in and the thing that frustrate a lot of people to was that he was one of the nation's foremost experts got use experts. You know," because I think you have a lot of experts in government who who quite frankly, Peter should be there but as an expert. He's been the task force were scaling the testing as quickly as possible right and I was saving it for prom.

There's three different things that they can constrain you with either imagination. It's money Earth's gravity here. We had an amazing plan which we developed very quickly get unlimited capital to spend two to to stimulate it. We had me Q-tips right at base, which didn't have enough Q-tips in this country. I found it was always the lowest-cost item that becomes your biggest bottleneck and so we we did DPAs rework with American cotton. We are flying all over the world, but everyone the world is looking for the same product. So were scaling as quickly as we Need to make the reagents need to make the that that that that that transfer media and so were scaling it all up. We figured out miracles to do it and he goes on television and instead of saying or doing.

This is over doing this is where we are today. It's fascinating when the world he says were just not there yet saying what is a sky sportscaster is literally in the meeting.

He's on the task force. He was buried before me. I came in to try to clean up the problem that they left and and and is just it would've been an analyst you need an advocate that was telling the truth behind-the-scenes a good express to the American just to them what the problem was why we were where we were and what we were doing to fix it and why people what people to do best to get there. So I think Kobe became very political very emotional for a lot of people, but again I think that you know operation warp speed that we didn't in this book, which again he said couldn't be done to your to half. We ended up getting a vaccine the fastest vaccine history because Pres. Trump came in and said get it done. We hire the right people cut all the bureaucracy out in the Lancet just published a study that said that that saved 20 million lot will look I that's all true. And I know the prison says that he gets booed when he goes brings up the vaccines. He says why are people booing me at these events will bring up the vaccine. I know the answer is demanding so if you tell the people take the vaccine, they were socially the study is still my decision when you tell us take the vaccine you're fired. Take the vaccine or you're not allowed in. That's in the American people just can't get their head around it. Some overreacting get to mass and five vaccines in six boosters and others. Don't you agree with that. A thousand percent. We we were never for vaccines.

We never impose. We were never for mandates. We never impose mandates, but I do think that the vaccine what was a miracle I think it was it was safe at least the first iteration I thought was very effective for historically effective, but it should deftly be up to people whether they they choose to you and you have to zoom into people. It's a very now of the vaccines are to be as effective is a variant so worried about so the menus or tones can work anyway and they get it and they get into it three times. Anthony Faucher got of the present got everyone's getting it. That's what I think credibility got Lawson and politics Duggan so lastly, Jared in writing this book were the present say the read all that that he said the summarize of forum we worried about them reading it, so I didn't show it to him beforehand because I really wanted to be my story, but I do think that I was able to show people a lot of very intimate moments. I think that people are we speculating on what Trump is like. I would say the truth is hiding in plain sight.

But what I wanted people to say in another criticism people give of him as though say okay I love his policies, but I wish he would be act like a normal person why we see if he acted like a normal person, a plywood been president. I think that he probably would've been a successful is present. If he was so what I want people to do in this book is is read it and then really judge for themselves how Trump used his unique personality and is unique outsider approach to take on a Washington that was very hostile that I think our founding fathers designed a great system, but it needed a shock to the system was that shock. I think he got better and better at it as he went.

When he said to me when I gave him as he said, look, this is a very important book. I'm glad that that somebody wrote a book that's really gonna talk about what actually happened in the room and he says I'm gonna read it so any Eddie started reading it is give me some compliments on it so far and again II hope he sprouted. I don't know if you like anything guys couldn't everything different but you respect how different both of you are with each other and is that that comes across clearly how it feels about you and the job he gave you. Thank you highways know is that there is only one of us that was elected it was him and so I disagreed. I was grateful that he DB the opportunity, but I was an advisor.

Sometimes you listen. Sometimes he didn't but we had a lot of fun breaking history and in the book Jared Kushner. Thanks so much for the quality stuff. Thank you so much Brian. Great Fox News can't just subscribe and listen to the trade going on a federal prosecutor and four term US Congressman from South Carolina brings you a one-of-a-kind punch list now by going on

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