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Victor Davis Hanson's going to be here, one of America's deepest thinker, military historian. He wants to know what we can all learn from Europe to make sure it doesn't happen here. He'll put it all in perspective. You saw those riots in France. Andrew Culvett, he in Turning Point, helped deliver the youth vote in 2024 for Republicans.
Why does it seem not to be happening this time around? Tyrese, the one of the smartest people in this building, will be turning the tables on me and talking about my brand new book, "United in the States." The only way he knows how. Very intriguing, very confrontational. But first, the fastest, most impactful monologue in America. We begin with, "You can have it all, just not for free." As America focuses on the midterm mania and the Trump administration is trying to win wars in Iran and Ukraine, in my view, one of the most underreported stories this week is what's happening in France.
You got a social welfare state under enormous strain. Look at what was happening: violent clashes with police all week long. In fact, for a couple of weeks, thousands of students protesting, crumbling schools, teacher shortages, public services they say are failing them, and you know what? They are failing them. While there are many factors behind the unrest, fundamentally France is confronting a much bigger problem that they started.
The cost of its government promises is growing faster than its ability to pay for them. They got an aging population. They got too few young and older adults working. You got high taxes on work. Years of borrowing under the present system, which makes it under tremendous strain.
It is going to snap.
So. Look at what France private citizens have gotten from politicians. They get universal health care coverage. All right, quite pricey. Family allowances for being families, birth grants, yes, for having kids, child care support, billions more in government-backed benefits.
It sounds good, but who is writing these checks? Not to mention, they're not working too hard. They take the summers off and work on average thirty-five hours a week. And a generous public pension system that allows many workers. To retire at 62, and they're talking about dropping it to 60, but none of it comes without a cost.
France now spends more than 57 of its entire economic output through the government. Pensions alone account for 14 of their budget. And this week, Reuters reported that nearly one third of France's education ministry budget goes towards pensions and for retired government workers. Not too productive.
Now, in 2000, France had a public debt. It was 60 of its economy. By 2025, it is now 116 percent of all the money the country earns, and the government is being asked to spend even more. This is not about political parties, left or right. It's about economic reality.
And France isn't alone. Did you see the Wall Street Journal this week? The headline that caught my eye: "The welfare state is crushing Great Britain." More than seven million people in Britain now receive sickness or disability benefits, costing taxpayers more than 100 billion pounds a year. That's one hundred thirty-four billion U.S. dollars, and that doesn't include the cost of Britain's government-funded national health care service, which sounds good but is terrible, which has a budget of nearly two hundred and seventy-five billion dollars of U.S.
dollars this past year. That's unsustainable. The bill is only expected to grow. I bring this up for this. Because Europe's problems could very well be America's problems, as politicians promise free, free, free, while vilifying success and threatening to tax the very people who drive our economy right out of the country.
We're facing the same fundamental problem. Watch. Fast and free buses, childcare free, tax the rich to start paying their fair share of taxes. Right, and by the way, there's a wealth tax in California. The whole world's looking at.
Our national debt is around forty trillion dollars. And by the way, our revenue's going up. We're very productive, but we can't pay our bills. The promises are still coming, though. Europe should be a canary in the American coal mine, in my view, a warning about what happens when government commitments outpace our ability to pay for those commitments.
Where hard work is not rewarded. In fact, to this new breed of Democrats, it's to be avoided. We, the people of the United States of America, demand that one job with no need for overtime should be enough for our most basic needs, which also include rest. Yes, America, let's rest. Look, there's nothing wrong with wanting better schools, affordable health care, or help for working families.
I love that, but every promise comes with a price tag. You know that. You do with your family and your house, and sooner or later, somebody has to pay. It's called math, and history shows us what happens when government ignores it. We should all learn the lesson right here.
Free does not mean free. Unfunded promises can lead to disappointing results, mounting debt, and a path toward economic insolvency. Let's get back to what made America the land of opportunity—not a country where government promises results. It can't afford to deliver. Government can help you with opportunity.
We are a land of opportunity, and remember, it was a Democrat, President John F. Kennedy, who challenged you with this. And so, my fellow Americans, ask not what your country can do for you. Ask what you can do for your country.
So, can that message sell today? In my view, if we do not embrace that message, we are doomed to the road to bankruptcy and societal collapse. Our allies, France and Britain, are on that path right now. And joining us now, no better person to talk to about this or tell me I'm wrong, than Victor Davis Hanson. Victor, am I wrong to think that we should be learning from France and England what they're doing?
No, you're absolutely right because we're not far behind them. And during the Biden years, with open borders and a war on fracking, and discouragement of entrepreneurialism, high taxes, we would be right where they are now. We're not very far behind. But the problem is there's no there's no solution because the Europeans think the medicine is worse. Than the disease they're suffering, so when you see all those students out, the American solution would be, well, why don't you somebody open a private school or a private university or homeschooling or parochial and compete with it with the bureaucracy?
But there's no private sector there, so everybody is so inured to being. Complacent, like the lotus eaters, they just expect the stuff to come, and they take no initiative, and that's that's the problem with them. There's nobody that's an entrepreneurial person who says I'm going to start fracking natural gas because there's a lot in France, or I'm going to go out in the North Sea and get some revenue, or we're going to offer a different educational paradigm. But they're kind of depressed. The whole population is subservient to the government, and you know what's sad about it is.
It affects us because Europe has; they have seats on the Britain and France on the Security Council. They have these visions of grandeur from World War II, Napoleon. They they think their culture is predominant, and they start acting as if they're world players. But when you look at their defense, when you look at their money, when you look at their economy, their their companies are last in AI and digital media, software. Where ours are all the top.
So they have a reckoning because what they think of themselves bears no reality to who they really are. Yeah, I'll let their cable networks decide how to fix them, but I worry about how it reflects here. For example, Ken Griffin decides I'm going to have my own Silicon Valley in Miami, puts billions of dollars into a university, and that's the foundation. I'm sure it's going to flourish within the next five years. They need their own Elon Musk to have that type of initiative, their own Ken Griffin to do that.
But I worry about if you come out and say free healthcare, free. Child care for everything, and you push back against that. You don't have a heart. It's much easier to vote for someone who promises those things. Can you, as a politician in America in 2026, say unaffordable?
We have to figure out how to do in the private sector and do what Kennedy said. Ask not what your country can do for you, what you can do for your country. Can that fly today, Victor? Yes, and you know what's happening? We're having four million people a year leaving that blue state paradigm and going to red states where there's lower taxes, more deregulation, more energy development, and all of these politicians you're talking about, whether they're in Minnesota or Maine, or they're in Michigan, California.
That's that's they're going to only intensify that exodus, and so it's kind of scary because. We're having a geographical element that we haven't seen since the Civil War. We're two different views of the world are now being reinforced by people moving, and it's intensifying. The successful paradigm is going to get only more successful and draw more people, and these blue states are going to get more and more angry and radical at themselves because they will not change, and the government's going to have to keep coming in and subsidizing these blue fail. Paradigms, and at some point, we're going to have a veritable civil war because they're not compatible systems anymore.
And you add 54 million immigrants, the highest percentages we've ever had, 17, and they're not being acculturated, assimilated, and integrated. What they're doing now is ruining their states and going to red states. And we see that's why Texas is teetering on going on going blue or at least purple. Victor, we could do this for an hour. I do want to talk to you too after the election about what Trump's going to do in Iran, but we're at a time for now.
Victor Davis Hanson, thanks so much. Thank you. Young men, many of whom felt inspired by Charlie Kirk, Charlie is a great example. Of how to disagree, but still participate. Yep, Vice President United States, Charlie Kirk gains with the Gen Z voters was one of the biggest stories of 2024, especially among young men.
Donald Trump would tell you that, but so far those Republican gains of 24 are not there and not carrying the day in 2026. If these polls are correct, and take a look at the Pew poll that I got just before we did this show, currently leading Republicans are Democrats, 51 to 23, with voters 18. To twenty nine, how did this happen? The big question is: This is the beginning of a political realignment that we thought was taking place in twenty four. We thought young voters were going right.
Have they changed their mind among Gen Z, or simply the kind of anti-incumbent backlash that is so typical of the American process? There's one person that would know probably has a better chance to know than anybody else, and he joins us right now. TPUSA spokesperson, executive producer of the Charlie Kirk Show, does a great job at Turning Point Action and everything else. Andrew Culvett, Andrew, you saw those numbers. I know what you guys did in 24.
What's changed? Yeah, thanks for having me, Brian. And I've looked deeply, actually, at that Pew poll. And something that could encourage people and should encourage people, if you're conservative at least, is that a quarter of those respondents have not made up their mind, Brian.
So that just shows there's a huge element of cynicism, of nihilism, and really uncertainty, right? That is set in with younger voters. That And I will tell you, when I go to college campuses, Brian, when we visit there, we're doing so much on college campuses. I'm not hearing them call out for less conservatism. I'm hearing them call out for results.
Right? They've got economic anxieties. They're anxious about AI stealing their jobs. They're anxious about H-1B workers stealing their jobs. They've heard a lot about that.
They're anxious about being able to afford a house, being able to afford a home and a family. And that's what they want, especially the young men that were inspired by Charlie's message. They want to live the American. They want to be able to believe in the system, but they feel on both sides of the aisle. By the way, that both parties are beholden to elites, beholden to the rich, the economic incumbents, and they're not hearing their needs, wants, and desires.
And so, I think it's a results business. This is not a bunch of young people turning around and going, "Yeah, I love the Democrats. Yeah, I love the progressives." They don't trust them either, Brian. Trust me, on campus they do not trust them either.
So it's a bunch of disaffected young people that are disaffected with the system. Large, so it's a results game. We're in a race against the clock to prove our ideas work better than theirs.
So when the president of the United States has the most powerful, successful business people to the White House, I think it's a great thing. Get them to talk, brainstorm, and talk about this technology, like AI, whether it's data centers, SI, he prefers to call it. You're saying I thought that was a good message. That's how I interpreted it. I can't wait to see what they came up with.
But maybe younger people are saying, "Oh my goodness, there's all the power. I'm not allowed in that room." What are they talking about? They're they're deciding my future. Maybe misinterpreting what the president's doing. Yeah, I I completely think you're spot on here, Brian.
The way young people interpret the signals and signs that come out of Washington or the media establishment are almost completely inverted than you might expect. Right? It's almost a generational divide. They look at that and they say, "I want them to be focusing on me." What about homes? What about the affordability crisis?
That's the message that needs to come home. Transparency when it comes to Epstein. These are things that resonate with young people. They don't know our. Our students on campus—they're having to defend the Iran War when they were told they're voting for a president that started no new wars, right?
And so there's a bit of cognitive dissonance. There's a bit of a break in what they felt they were promised. And we've got to get back to messaging about domestic, domestic, domestic. You know, Charlie had this great idea. He called the economic moonshot.
He said, "Deport 20 million illegals, build 10 million new homes, and focus here, right here at home." Right.
So those are the kind of messages that resonate with young. People because they want to know. Right, they want to know that it's not business as usual. It's not the status quo. That things are really changing.
And I think the administration. You know, you look through twenty twenty promises that Trump made on his "Make America Great Again" campaign promise. I just did a list of it. Seventeen out of twenty are slam dunks. Yes, he's delivering on the promises.
So part of it is messaging. Part of it is getting that home. Ending the Iran war and getting prices down on gas. I think. I think those.
Those. You'd see a lot of young people kind of ease. Up and realizing that progress is being made for their economic futures. All right, I got to bring this up. This stunned me.
A stunning number of young Americans have a favorable view of Sharia law. Over forty percent. Look at this. This is the headline that I saw today. That I said I got to talk to Andrew Culver about.
Stunning number of young Americans have a favorable view of Sharia law. Rasmussen reported that forty-three percent said they like the idea of Sharia law. I mean, they're talking about women as second-class citizens. They're talking about four, four, four wives for every. Man, head coverings, lack of autonomy, homosexuality could result in death.
I mean, these are the Sharia law is not compatible with our country. I would think less than one percent.
So let's say this is in remotely correct. These are the people you are talking to on a daily basis. Did you see this one coming? Yeah, well, so I looked into this, Brian, and it's important to understand how they conducted this poll.
So they read a definition to the respondents, and this was what they read. Forgive me, I'm going to look at my phone for a second. Brian says, "Sharia is a system of Islamic religious principles and law derived primarily from the Quran and the teachings and practices of Muhammad that addresses matters including religious practice, personal conduct, family life, finance, and often civil and criminal law." That was the definition that was. What I see from this poll, however, if you ask the respondents in the follow-up questions, "Do you want to see it instituted in schools defending the benefits of Sharia law?" Only seven percent said yes. Right.
Okay.
So I think what this is more a reflection of is the American sensibility, which is a good thing to not be bigoted or intolerant. Right.
We understand that other people, outside forces, foreign ideologies, and religions are using those sensibilities against. Us so when we go on college campus when we when we're talking to students part of our job at Turning Point is correcting error and explaining that actually as you said Islamic law Sharia law is not compatible with Western civilization here's why some of the things you referenced the fact that you've got guys like El Sayed in Michigan relating. Sharia law, a canon law, which, as you know, Brian, canon law only affects matters of priest misconduct or things within the church. No, Sharia law is far overreaching; it's far wide-reaching, and it will completely impact in a negative way the American system.
So we've got to limit it. We've got to talk about it and correct error, so people are more educated about what it really means. Andrew, you're tackling a very important segment of society. Best of luck in doing it. By the way, if you try to leave Islam according to Sharia law, you Punishable by death.
Pretty sure Catholics don't do the same thing. Andrew Culver, thanks so much. Pretty sure they don't. Yep, I'm going to look. I'm going to check my notes again.
All right, next Tyrus turns the tables on me and interviews me about my new book, United States: The Six Crucial Moments That Forged the American Dream. Is he ready? I gave him two weeks to read it and be sure to catch me on fall this fall on tour. It's going to be a lot of fun.
Next month, I'm going to be in Florida and Virginia. You see in the dates there, BrianKillme.com. And next week, I want you to come see me at book signings. Really. Important in Palm Beach and Vero Beach.
One day, right after another, it's got to be fun. Go register for tickets so we have a place in line. The music means I'm going to break, which means I have to tell you how to get tickets. BrianKilmeade.com. Self-explanatory.
How many years have we spent listening to politicians in Washington argue about how to make health care insurance more affordable? Obamacare was supposed to fix it. Then we needed bigger government subsidies to make Obamacare affordable. Those subsidies expired, and guess what? People are paying more again.
At some point, maybe the question isn't how do we keep fixing the same system. Maybe the question is what else is out there. That's why I want you to take a look at We Share Health. We Share There isn't health insurance. It's a nonprofit Christian healthcare sharing organization, and their members pay up to sixty percent less than they would for Obamacare.
You still get access to a nationwide PPO network and over a million physicians, plus unlimited telehealth.
So, stop waiting for Washington or the insurance companies to make healthcare affordable for you. Do your own research. See what your options are. Call one eight eight we share for a free quote. That's one eight eight eight we share.
Or visit we share health dot org and take a look for yourself. What it is? Do not adjust your TV. Welcome back to One Nation. I'm Tyrus.
Briefly, with a hostile takeover stepping in for a little role reversal, and I'm going to put you on the edge of your seat. How dare you? Yeah, but I dared. Yes, I so dared for a good cause, though. Look, America wasn't built overnight, and it certainly wasn't built without a fight.
From the battlefield to the White House, six early Americans helped shape a young nation and define freedom, which would mean for generations to come.
Now, Fox News' own Brian Kilmeade is bringing their remarkable stories to life in his brand new book, "Uniting the States: Six Crucial Moments That Forged the American Mural." Brian. Thanks for joining us. No, no, honored that you took up my offer to take over the show because you are the most passionate person about American history in the building and the smartest. Listen, why?
Okay, the six names. Why? Connect them all together.
Well, I look at them as individual events, but they are connected. All of them are connected, because when I look at American history, I did seventy-two. What made America great? Did six history books, and you talk to all these historians. And afterwards, when the cameras are down, I just talk to them.
Does this astound you? The American story, how it broke the way it broke, and then I went down and drilled down on the six stories that astounded me most. And I think the thing that hit me is that these were human beings. They had their frailties. They had their weaknesses.
Some were great leaders.
Some were great. Thinkers, they were all unbelievable under pressure, but they were all the right person at the right time. And then I tried to break it down. I don't want just be war; just not about America is not about the Revolutionary War only. That's well.
Sometimes those wars were fought in courtrooms. Yes, in those battles, and the Constitution means something even when you don't like it. Yes, can we roll? I got some. We had one.
Yeah, I got some shots for you. Can we roll one? The problem is Jefferson is not a king; he's got to go to Congress. Yeah. And how is he going to tell Congress, who's still got war debt, that we need all this money, even though it doesn't sound like a lot now, to double the size of the country, which in theory diminishes the amount of.
Worth that your land has, because it's now a lot more of it. He had a dilemma because he wasn't sure he had the constitutional authority to buy that, because the Constitution doesn't say you can buy new land. He thought he could sell Congress on it. He didn't know that they would buy the constitutional authority or come up with money. But the expansion, what that would do in productivity, and he he was able to sell them on it.
America's crisis was averted. The Louisiana Territory became part of the United States, securing the nation's trade. And creating a path to the expansion Jefferson dreamed of.
So what I want to do is Louisiana Purchase. How do you double the size of the country without firing a shot? Right.
How do things break our way for us to do this?
Well, James Monroe is Mister Everything. They called him Big James. Yeah. And he was asked to go over by Jefferson and said, "We cannot allow this Napoleon to be in control of New Orleans, who you know quite well. That's the port where everything is." Right.
Says either going to take it by force or you're going to sell it to us. Monroe says he goes to Monroe. Go go go get it now. Why did We get it because fortuitous things broke our way. Number one, there was a rebellion in what we now know as Haiti.
Thousands of French troops lost their lives. The British start saying, "We're going to go back to war with you." He wants Austria. He wants Russia. All of a sudden, he goes, "You know what? I need the money.
I can't be over there in the colonies." And I think Britain needs a rival. And if we double the size of America, maybe they could fight them for a while.
So things broke our way. By the time Monroe arrives, they basically say, "Not only am I giving you New Orleans." I'm going to give you the whole territory. That just doesn't happen anywhere else. You know, it's. One of the things that's cool about your books, and when you talk about your books, is you talk about with the same passion as if you're doing play by play in a prize fight.
You know, like you just look at you, just excited. If you can see where I'm seeing, he's got goosebumps, little faces red, and we're gonna just keep this party rolling because I want to roll one more while we got time. Number two, please. This is about the burning of Washington. Yes, and when you have, if you think things are bad in America now, they're not.
If you want things bad, how about a five foot two inch president suffering. From bouts of epilepsy, staring at Washington burning, not knowing if his army would reconvene in the Battle of 1812, and if his wife was still alive, would we bounce back? Watch. You say you have the actual flag. We do.
Okay, you're gonna get chills. Turn the corner. I'm ready. Here it is. It is huge.
What's beautiful about this is that when they hoisted it that morning after they had held the fort, and Francis Scott Key sees it, it I think is just as dramatic for us now as it must have been for him. And that was standard, right?
So you, whomever took the fort, would raise their flag. We end up bouncing back, rallying for the which kind of is a thing. I think given today's climate. These stories are really important. I think they can resonate with a lot of people who sometimes, you know, they didn't have the crazy media and stuff back then.
And we see things that are sometimes more saturated than what they are. And here are some real issues we're like moments away where the country's history could have been changed forever. And the thing is, Tyrus, people think we just started disagreeing now. I mean, when we had the Louisiana Purchase, you know, who didn't want to do it? Alexander Hamilton.
He goes, "Hey, I don't want to diminish the power we have in the North. You're going to go add all these other states. How my my vote's going to be diluted? Really?" Genius Treasury, right? Jefferson, genius.
Guess what? They disagreed. We worked it out. Turns out Hamilton was outvoted. We doubled the size of the country.
The House and Senate said, "Well, find a way in the next twenty years to come up with that money." And at four cents an acre, five hundred thousand acres, it was definitely worth the purchase.
So I just think the push and the pull and the way America has always shown this resilience to eventually do things right. And the one thing that I wanted to Bring up for you is the last chapter, because it's John Quincy Adams, and John Quincy Adams is one of the most outspoken abolitionists of his time. In the 1840s, he goes back to the House, and instead of just being in the House representing Massachusetts after being president, he decides to make an impact, and he decides to make abolition as his cause because he hated slavery, so did his dad, so did his family, and he was haranguing the South to get rid of it. And guess who he inspired? Not only Abraham Lincoln, who sat behind him, but Frederick Douglass.
He writes, "I remember getting possession of a speech by John Quincy Adams made in Congress about slavery, and reading it to my fellow slaves, because he was he was a slave at the time, at fifteen years old. And oh, what joy and gladness it produced to know that so great, so good a man was pleading for us, and further to know there was a large and growing class of people in the North called abolitionists who were moving for our freedom. That's why Quincy Adams made the cut. And that was extremely unpopular." Popular and dangerous at that time to stand on. Absolutely, stand on.
Well, and I personally, I'm glad he did that. Yes, just keep it just between us. Just keep it real. Listen, obviously you can pick up this book everywhere. Yep, and you know pick up Brian's new book, "Uniting the States: Six Crucial Moments That Forged the American Miracle." It's available now.
Brian, I'm going to turn the show show over back to you. Yep, only because they're telling me to in my ear. Right, and because you could keep it. You got the building stature. It's going to take at least security five to six seconds to get here.
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Next on One Nation, a debunking debacle. The bombshell report accusing big banks of getting of targeting conservatives, and guess who was doing that? Trey Gowdy joins us to break it down. And check out my YouTube page. Everybody's talking about it.
YouTube.com/slash At the Brian Kilmeade show, you hear me talk about this all the time. Obamacare was supposed to make healthcare more affordable. How's that working out? People are still getting crushed by the cost of healthcare insurance. Maybe you are.
Insurance companies are making greater profits, and while everything gets more expensive for you and your family, at some point you have to ask: Is there another way?
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Investigators are still working to determine the cause of the crash. Prosecutors say the 34-year-old driver was released while they await toxicology results and a mechanical inspection of the truck. And Pope Leo the Fourteenth leading Sunday prayers for the first time since having lung cancer surgery. The operation removed the lower lobe of his right lung. The seventy-one-year-old thanked Catholics around the world for their prayers just one day after being released from the hospital.
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Now back to One Nation. Americans were denied banking services because of their political or religious affiliations, and entire industries faced scrutiny due to the fact that their lawful business activities were considered controversial by some banks or their employees.
So, controller of the currency, Jonathan Gould, laying out the findings of a brand new federal report. You might have missed this. It's the findings into debanking of some of America's biggest banks. Among those reportedly shut out, MAGA merchants. You got screwed four years ago.
Pro-life groups, you were in trouble. Religious organizations, you were targeted. The banks have denied political discrimination, but we know better.
So, what does this evidence show, and who could be held accountable? Joining me now, Mister Law Norder, the host of Sunday Night in America, the number one show of the weekend, and former federal prosecutor and author of a fantastic book, which is a bestseller again. The sound of regret—you have to pick it up. It's based on Trey's incredible career before he started another two incredible careers. Trey Gowdy, welcome.
I should have you introduce me every day of my life, Brian. That's the best I've ever felt about myself. Just now, I did not know self-esteem was an issue. We'll discuss it in the break. I promise.
So, so Trey, I thought about you as the perfect person to talk to. I'm outraged by this because the banks, in a way, I'm not making excuses. Had no choice. You got the party in power says, "I want you to do this. You better debank.
You better debank, or else I'm going to make your life miserable." It reminds me of 2008. If you want solvency, you better To do what I tell you—that's what I see here. Operation Choke Point. We've been down this road before, Brian.
So I'm going to make it easy for everybody. You would be hard-pressed to find any. Facet of our life that has more nexus or interconnectivity between the private sector and government than finance banking. I mean, your deposits are insured by the FDIC. That is a government nexus.
Therefore, you got to play by government rules, which means you cannot discriminate if it's lawful. Like marijuana is a great example. Marijuana is against federal law, so can banks say no? We don't want to bank marijuana dispensaries. I'm not a big marijuana guy.
You would think I was on it because I couldn't think of dispensaries. Yes, so that's a little bit different because it's against the law. But the Second Amendment, political speech, religious speech, all of that stuff is protected.
So you got the First Amendment involved because the federal government, First Amendment doesn't apply to private. But the nexus, the interconnectivity between the the business and the federal government is just too large in finance. Right.
So you have people saying, "Hey." You know what? You better debank the Trumps. You know, you better push them out.
Meanwhile, they're loaded. You want their money? You've had it 30 years with them. You debank that group. Listen, if President Trump does that, I'd be just as angry that President Biden's administration did this.
But this can't happen again. And these banks got to figure out a way, and to go public and say, "I'm being pressured to do this. I can't let it happen again." Well, they have the best person in the world, and Tim Scott to go to. He is the chairman of Senate Banking. And look, some of this debanking has historical roots.
They also tried to debank people of color and find that they were not credit worthy.
So he's very sensitive to this issue. If you feel like you are being pressured in the next administration, if it's Democrat or by Elizabeth Warren, if the Senate flips, then you call Tim Scott.
So I want to talk about your other career, and that's in Congress. You've been in the minority, you've been the majority, you've been chairman as well. You told our producers right now it looks like Democrats are going to win the House. If they do, in fact, win the House, what do you expect them to do? I don't think that they're going to go after the administration because the executive branch just has too many defenses, and you get tied up in court.
I mean, say you send a subpoena to the White House. I mean, Janine Pirro is not going to prosecute Donald Trump. DOJ is not going to prosecute for contempt of Congress.
So they're going to target private citizens, family members, people that are in President Trump's orbit. I mean, they went after his family with Russia. They're going to go after the family again. They're also going to go after donors.
So if you have donated to anything, the Republican Party or Republican candidate, any of the president's projects, you need to probably be on the phone with your lawyer and get ready for a congressional investigation. And I would say you need to do it yesterday. Right.
And what bothers me most, they're going after donors just because you picked a side and you're an AI company or whatever it is.
Now you're going to be held in front of Congress. What does that say about where our country is heading?
Well, I mean, you and I, you and I, speaking of great books, you got a new one out too. You and I could write a book about where our country is headed. I mean, everything is weaponized.
So, so what happens is the media. I mean, no offense to you and me, but other parts of the media work in concert with the Democrats on the Oversight and Judiciary Committee.
So, the articles you're reading now—that's a really good, like foretelling of what's going. To come if the House and Senate flip, they're already planning stories now about donors and pay to play and pardons.
Now, look, Joe Biden let everyone off death row. I don't remember like a ton of. Washington Post and New York Times interest in that, but they're going to evaluate the pardon. They're not going to go after President Trump because they can't win. There are so many races in the margin of error, and we were so surprised in 2022 that I would not be surprised.
I know the projection is 219 to 198 in the Fox News poll. I think it's going to be even tighter than that. We'll see what's going to happen. But as you describe that, now I know why you rather play golf and host a television show than be in Congress. You don't want any part of that drama.
You'd rather. Report on it and comment on it, Congressman Trey Gowdy. Thanks so much. I'd rather figure out how to pronounce dispensary. That's what I'm going to work on when I get off air is how to pronounce that word dispensary.
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Somebody, my next guest, was able to spend nearly sixty hours traveling the country with in his famous Madden Cruiser bus. That's just one of the stories, the incredible stories of his four-decade career covering sports, but mostly the NFL. And think about this: when King started his career, baseball was the number one sport. He had a front-row seat as the NFL took over and got to know the coaches, the quarterbacks, and characters who. Are in his book.
He tells those stories and many more in his brand new book, *The Game*. Joining me now is one of the best NFL writers you'll ever read, Peter King. Peter, congratulations on your career and everything that you did to put this together. Cincinnati, the Bengals, the legend Paul Brown. You got a chance to sit with him, listen to him, understand.
And Mike Brown became a friend of yours. But they're known as a cheap organization. You remember picking up Boomer Esiason after he was disappointed to be drafted in the second round, yeah. And you jumped in front of the car this team sent, and you said, "I'm here to pick you up in your VW Rabbit." And he was so ticked off.
Well, he was ticked off because he was the 38th player picked in the draft, and he thought he was going to be maybe the third, maybe the eighth, not the 38th. And he was angry when he got to Cincinnati, and he was even angrier when I had him sit in a two-door. Volkswagen hatchback, and I had to take the car seat out of the back seat because my daughter was eight months old at the time. And when he got in the back seat of that car, because there was another guy we picked up too, another drafty who was bigger than Boomer. Boomer gets in the back seat, folds himself in there, and he goes, "Welcome to the bleeping NFL." Right, and to emphasize this, he ends up being the perfect place.
Sam White was this innovator, gave him a chance to be great, and he was, but. You say, look at where how far this league has come. Joe Gibbs tried out Phil Sims from Morehead State by having a catch with him. The head coach of the Redskins has a catch with a possible first-round draft because I've seen enough. Compare that to what we see today.
Well, how about this? The quarterback coach of the Green Bay Packers, Zeke Bradkowsky, came to see Sims. His campus at Morehead State, tiny college in Kentucky, was closed. Zeke Bradkowsky went to Sims's house. And Sims threw passes to his two brothers out in the yard, and afterwards, Phil's mom baked a pie and gave him pie and coffee, and that's how the Green Bay Packers scouted Phil's him.
And now the combines are an event. Yeah, you talk about the troubles early in the league, one strike after another, and the USFL and the WFL. I get it, but then you talk about this league has changed. You said we got to. They said they have to be a 12-month show.
Yeah, how did they do that? Pete Roselle believed that absence made the heart grow fonder.
Okay, at the end of the football season, yeah, we're going to disappear. Pete Rozelle, maybe the best commissioner in all of team sports ever, and the NFL disappeared for six months.
Well, Paul Tagliabue takes over as commissioner in 1989, buttoned up lawyer, and he says, "Ah, we're not doing it that way. We are going to have free agency in the off season. We are going to have a TV channel, the NFL Network, that is going to televise." Every bit of the scouting combine, and it started to seep into the league. We are going to be a 12-month venture, and Roger Goodell, the current commissioner, has now made that go even further with international football, moving the draft around. Bumped in on the John Madden movie.
He's bigger than life. I can't imagine, couldn't imagine football without him.
Now, sadly, we have to. What was it like getting him first? Getting on that bus, getting his trust, and traveling with him because he hated to fly. And for people don't know, he was the best color commentator in the history of football. How how about this with John Madden?
Best color commentator ever, assisted with his name on the video game for the best sports video game in the history of the United States, and he had the best winning percentage of any coach in NFL history with at least ten years coaching. He walked out of the game forever at age forty-two. Most guys don't get their jobs until after the age of forty-two, and he was done then. Here was the thing about traveling with Madden; he is a curious person, and at one point, we're driving in the middle of nowhere, Nebraska, on I eighty, on his Madden Cruiser, and he sees this brilliant. Meadow of red wildflowers out the side of the of the bus, and he says to Dave Hahn, his driver, "Pull it over, pull over." And he goes rummaging through a drawer, drawer, and he finds a book, "Wildflowers Across America," and he wasn't going to leave there until he found the name of the wildflower.
It was the spotted napweed, and I just John Madden. One of the reasons he was great at everything. Is that he always had questions? He was always curious, right? And you, you got his trust because you were a great writer.
I, I was at a few press conferences when you were there, and Bill Parcells would look at you first, and I go, "These guys like each other or not?" Because the way you would talk to you, go back and forth, especially during the strike year. What was, what is the Bill Parcells story? That not only did you win his trust, he's blurbing your book, and he's not an easy guy to warm up to.
Well, I would say this: the year the Giants got to the Super Bowl late in the 1986 season. Look, I I asked people. I made some outlandish requests, and I said to Parcells, "I would like to meet you at your house at 5:30, and I'd like to get in your car and drive with you to see your." You're the Jersey guy. I want to see your jersey. You're New Jersey.
I want you to take me by the places. I'll leave whatever time. And I was shocked. He said, "Okay, I'll do it." It's called the game. Congratulations on everything.
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