Hey there, it's your buddy Craig Card.
Now I was on the Brian Kilmeade radio show earlier today. I'm sure you can check out all the clips you're going to want to, because I was brilliant, funny, entertaining, handsome, and we didn't even really talk any sports.
So check out the conversation about politics, about culture, about my greatness, and how I made Brian Kilmeade look a little bit better. It's me, Kilmeade, one on one. There's the high drive. He breaks out of it. Here's the goal of an Otani home run.
Head hard towards the right field corner. Torres is done it again. Milwaukee's cut it in half with a two-run double. Hamilton grounds one through base hit center field. One pitch after the stolen base, Hamilton delivers.
The Bears have tied the game. Mitchell sends a fly ball to right center field. Tucker's going. It is gone. Milwaukee takes the lead.
Hernandez to left center field. Sure, you get there, but for the first time in forty-four. And just like that, you got the whole game. Good job, Pete. The Brewers beat the Dodgers.
They sweep them, and now it's on to the World Series. The Dodgers go down, so we're not going to have another Dodger World Series championship. I love that idea. I think it's great for the game. Also, I want to see Tampa get through because Tampa has to be.
If you have to rank franchises in all major sports, I have to put Tampa in the top three. Brewers are right behind them. Because they don't they don't hit the ceiling on the salary cap yet. The not bottom feeders like Pittsburgh, like the Pirates are, let's say, or the Bengals are in football. They just find a way to grow talent.
When I think it's even harder in Tampa's situation, without a huge fan base, to actually grow the franchise. They're in a horrible facility, but maybe that'll change. With me right now is Craig Carton, host of the Craig Carton Show. The out, he's got a Now Kick Show too. That's what it really is, but and the outkick show, Craig.
You made you made me aware. It's not just sports. No, but we tend to think of you with sports because of WFAN. That's what I'm known for. But a lot of people, if you go back far enough, I was voted the ninth most powerful person in New Jersey state politics.
When was this? This was back from 2002 to 2007. Right. Yes. Why would that be?
I got people elected. Got people unelected. Right. And got a very famous fight with Acting Governor Richard Cody back in the day. Knew Jim McGreevey very very well.
Chris Christie is one of my dearest friends, so I was actively involved in state politics, but I never thought I was powerful. But I was voted the ninth most powerful person, which tells you all you need to know about New Jersey state politics. How how glad are you to be able to say that? Like you really welcomed that question because you wanted to get that ranking. I was hoping to get that out there.
Yeah, yeah, it's on my list. Cross it off.
Now you got it. That's right. No, but no, as you do in the morning show, right? I did after news in New Jersey.
So what station was it? It was a New Jersey one and one point five, which is really the voice of the state of New Jersey, and their their moniker still to this day is not New York, not Philadelphia, New Jersey one and one point five, and they're very good at it.
So you were not talking sports, no, I that was more of a kind of general talk show.
So I delved into politics and culture and sports. When how did you prepare for that?
Well, I'm actively involved as an American citizen and caring about politics in my community and things like that.
So that sounds pedestrian. I did a lot of reading, right? Oh, you do. Yeah, but I'm I'm one of these guys. Like I'm fascinated by people.
That's why I do the Outkick show because it's going to evolve into a lot of long form interviews, which I like to do, and I like to get to know an interview and kind of like you and I've talked off the air a lot. What makes you tick? I'm fascinated in those types of stories, especially of successful people, because I've always said, while the audience may not know it, there's no such thing as an overnight success. The animal does not exist. We just don't see.
All the work you put in behind the scenes, we only get to meet you bang once you have a microphone in front of your face. In our cases, but there's always a story behind it, and I love that. And you know, that's probably one of the reasons why child stars also often implode. Sure, they're cute, they can memorize a few lines.
Next thing you know, they're famous. Everyone treats them like they they are celebrities, and they can't process it because they don't think they deserved it. Yeah, like when you deserve it, you're most more than likely to be able to handle it. Yeah, and I think you're more respectful of it. Like my first job in radio was twelve thousand dollars a year in Buffalo, New York, and I lived in a retirement home.
Legitimately, that's not like hyperbole.
So the fact that I went from that to the successes I've had, you know, ratings wise, financially, etc., I have a different appreciation for it. Right. Then maybe if you just woke up one day and won the lottery, that's why so many lottery winners go broke. I think it transfers to with this country. You get up in the morning and you get the number one economic, the number one military power in the world, and it's been that way for 80 years.
Sure.
So, and then we debate on all these topics, but it's impossible to appreciate the journey when we only have a slice of that journey. If your parents are wealthy, and but they started with nothing. The kids are born. All they know is wealth. You could explain to them over and over again.
I had nothing, and I took risk, and I lost everything twice, and the banks were coming after me. And now, look at the the kids. Not be they're not going to be able to fully understand. Right. It's like it's almost like the Rocky Balboah thing.
Once he started having success, he kind of lost who he was, his identity as a kid from the streets of Philadelphia, grew up with nothing. That's why I think it's very hard for a lot of. First-generation offspring of successful people have a tougher time finding their way.
Now that also, I brought up something about Asia Wilson, who's the WNBA five-time MVP. She did not grow up in a stereotypical, you know, American professional athlete background. Projects, you know, one one-parent household, poverty. She grew up with both parents, which is awesome. She grew up and went to private schools.
Awesome, and now she's trying to be something that she's not. I'm not sure who she's appeasing by doing that, but I don't think you should be embarrassed that your parents work their asses off to provide an upper middle class living for you. You should celebrate that, and yet there are successful people who grew up that way who are, for some reason, I don't know, maybe ashamed of that.
So I think of Grant Hill. Obviously, his parents are high academic, well educated, successful, smart people. Yeah, and he didn't pretend that he was some street kid. Kobe Bryant didn't pretend he was a street kid. Grew up in Italy, right?
Right. Multilingual. Dad was a basketball player. Parents were together. You know, had all the trappings of you know suburban life and upper middle class.
Upbringing, and I think we should celebrate that.
Now, the kids that do come out of you know bad socioeconomic backgrounds, we should celebrate their journey also. But I don't even more. Yeah, I don't understand why people are ashamed of the fact that their parents you know were successful or provided for them a lifestyle to give them a better opportunity, maybe even outside of sports to have success in life.
Well, you know why. Because there is a whole group of people growing up right now, like Bernie Sanders, who says oligarchs and billionaires. But he is one, right? Yeah. AOC says there shouldn't be.
No, excuse me. Mayor Mom Donny says there should not be billionaire. Why? AOC says it's impossible to be a billionaire. Yeah, but I don't understand why.
Isn't the American dream to become as successful as you can possibly become? And then so why? And by the way, the fart. Look, there are the Waltons out there for sure. You know, you are born on third base.
You know, Silver Spoon. They exist, but. As I understand it, the far majority of American billionaires are self-made. Yeah, I know, right?
So I look at Elon Musk, and then you read his story. He never worried about money, but he he almost lost everything. Right? You read the Walter Isaacson book.
So he is trying to get Tesla going. It's not going anywhere. The prototypes are falling apart. He's got to get revenue. People are invested.
He can't get their money back. He had to lean on the PayPal guys. He helped invented PayPal, but had a falling out. And he said, "Guys, they got word that he was certain. They stepped up.
Now, do I think that he would end up as homeless? No, no, because he's genius. Sure, but I think actually everyone went through it, and he had a horrible parent. He had a horrible dad. I've never met Elon Musk.
I don't know if you've interviewed him or very briefly. He does. It doesn't seem to hit it off with me.
Okay, I would make the argument that he is the single most important human being of the last hundred years to live on this planet." Now there've been a lot of great inventors, and obviously you know political leaders, and you know generals, and you know people that have I think you know protected us and guaranteed future offsprings and generations can live and live a healthy lifestyle in a democratic society. But I think he is a Mount Rushmore most important human being. To set foot on this planet in the last hundred years. I mean, think about what he's done for our space program. Yeah, think about what he's done for our cars and and how he engineered it.
Right, and now now he did. You see the video of what he's got? Yeah, I still think it's AI because it doesn't make sense in my brain. I don't for a car to flip over with thrusters and land. That's crazy.
Right, and it's real. Right, so I don't know how far he's going to go from prototype to reality. Have you ever gone the Tesla website and seen the robots? I've seen so. Yeah, when he puts out the videos of it, I've.
But I think one of the greatest things he'll ever accomplish is this. I'm blocking on the company name, so I apologize for that. But the stuff he's doing for paralyzed people, for people, for blind people, Neuralink. Neuralink. When that ever gets to where he wants it to be, imagine the gift of giving people who never had sight the ability to see and walk.
Like imagine, imagine, mind blown. Signals back for the ALS.
So a friend of mine who you know. I have permission to say it is getting it, and he's got ALS, and he worried about it. You know what he said? He worried about what. He worried about him putting the link in, and then Elon losing interest in it.
He's like, "Not one idea." Let's say he hit a few glitches. God, back to electric cars. Yes, by the way, so that's a fair concern.
So he waited a couple of years, but now he says they're they're going all in. Yeah, as they should. And like you know, I just think that's amazing. That'll be one of the greatest accomplishments in mankind. Right, but you know what's interesting is that he thinks it's his responsibility.
In many ways, he knows what you just said. And instead of saying, "Yeah, look at me," he he worries about population. Yeah, he worries about underpopulation, which is why he's got so many kids. Right? He literally is.
I mean, he. You know, even though he dates people, he goes and gets artificial insemination. Yeah, I see. What is it? Not ICM.
I know you're talking about. Yeah, yeah. Who's good at women's birth? Anybody?
Well, women. Yeah, women. I V F. I V F. I V F.
Yes. Teach you a know-how. That's when families can't have kids. They go to the I V F clinics. Right.
It's great. And for more on that, you'll be doing seminars on this. I will. Yes. Yes.
All right. I don't even. I got. I had a vasectomy, and um. Do you know why?
Yeah. Yeah. Four kids. And I looked at my wife, and she got pregnant.
Sour caps. Like enough cartons. Yeah. Yeah. But I'll never.
So I went the the place I was born, Mount Sinai. Hospital up Riverside, New York City, and by the way, have they have they just shut that room down? Made it a tourist attraction, but they announced me when I was there because the doctor was a fan of mine. And this is one of those things. Like, it's a pretty private moment.
Yeah, you know they're quarterizing your vast deference, and it's a big deal. And I go in there, and all of a sudden I hear in the loudspeaker, "Carton, patient Carton, Craig Carton, W F A N Radio, New York City, here for a vasectomy. Mr. Carton, could you please come to door number three? Are you kidding?" That is the most embarrassing thing I've ever heard in my life.
Is that the first time you ever blushed? No, the first time I blushed was when Playgirl offered me ten thousand dollars to be on the cover of Playgirl, and we and I said yes, dude. I wanted to do it. I figured get in shape, but I I put in the contract that I wouldn't do full frontal. I said, "If you want to see my butt, I'll do that." But you know, you know, we're not doing the other side.
You had a lawyer to write that. My agent did it at the time, but then CBS, who I was working for, because they owned the the radio station, they didn't think it was a good idea for me to do it.
So it never happened. But I still have the contract framed.
So when we come back, I'm gonna play a cut because you've been you've been doing everything publicly for the longest time, and sometimes you do roast. Anyone ever roasted you? Um, not like officially, but right, yes.
Well, people mock me all the time. When we come back, something happened last night, and you're as a professional, I want to know how you would have handled it. Great. This is the Brian Kilmeade show. That's Craig Card.
This Outkick show is what all everybody's talking about. They're talking about that and the Trump Watch. They only two. Yes, we're very important. Back in a moment.
Filmed. It's filled with some of the most powerful, influential, wealthy, and respected people in America, and Brian Kilmeade. You know, I picked on many of these people, and I really only met the Brian Kilmeade thing.
So Craig Carton's here. His outkick show is the rage.
So if you're me, I mean, do I get litigious? Do I sue defamation? Craig Carton, how would you handle? I think you got to laugh little self-deprecating humor. Really, Jim Gaffigan.
But my self-esteem is not strong. And this just put me. You just wrote your seventh book. Oh, yeah, that's right. I forgot about that.
But I mean, I actually don't know why I'm on the dais. I don't even know what the dais was. Who else was there?
So the Al Smith Theater, 81 years. You know the Al Smith. Dinner, right? I know of it. Yeah, never.
So it's where the president candidates always go and debate, and they always make fun of each other. They mock each other, yeah. But now it is like the who's who. Robert Kraft, it's very sports wise. Robert Kraft, Woody Johnson was there.
Last night, the ambassador.
So, do you speak at it? If you're on stage, no, you just get to be there with a white tie, and everyone looks at you and wishes they were you. Got it, right? Got it. Yeah.
So, yeah.
So, I made the cut, and it's true. And like Bloomberg goes there this year, but he's there every year.
So, the richest, most successful people in the country. Yeah, and me.
So. It's true. You're like so. You're the poorest guy in the room. No question, right?
By far. Yeah, yeah. And at least powerful. And I'm not really religious, so it's a Catholic dinner, right? But no one ever.
I'm friendly, friendly with Cardinal Dolan, the greatest guy ever. You met him? Yeah, good man. As a great, yes, you, the guy you want to hang out with. Absolutely, almost forget he's a cardinal.
It's a weird thing because he's so normal and approachable. I've been to a couple Yankee games with him. And again, he he has to wear the regalia. I don't know if that's part of the. I assume you have to, right?
And when you're sitting there, and you know, I'm throwing popcorn back and drinking, and he's not. You sometimes forget that you're talking to a guy that's like, yo, could have been the pope. You should have been, right? Right. So someone told me last time.
I said, you know, it's kind of interesting the way they work it out. Is when you get seventy five, they go, "Here's my resignation." And the pope usually goes, "Don't worry about it. You look good." This time he goes. Here is my resignation. The new pope goes.
You are out. And I asked so many people who know the Catholic Church. I said, you know, why would they accept his resignation at the top of his game? And they said, there is so much jealousy. You are not going to believe this.
Jealousy among the cardinals. Really? You kidding? Not the same most cardinals. Yes, that he's a high profile guy at St.
Patrick's gets a lot of esteem. How you know he spoke at the inaugural, so they might assume that he's conservative. I don't really think that comes up. But I was like, "Wow! Even when you give your life up for God, you still have the same issue, pettiness, right?
That you have an F A N, right? It's like you and Jesse, yeah, yeah, it's like very similar. Which I confessed to you with a break, and now you just—it's all good. I love Jesse. Ah, by the way, sees my son every weekend.
Yeah, he goes and he buys, you know, a meat from a butcher shop that my son works at. And my son keeps telling him that we're barbecuing together.
So while I've spoken to Jesse and we've texted each other, he and I have never actually met in person. But I'm supposed to be going to his house for barbecue. Really? And you know, you'll fit right in. But here's my question: Is Jesse Waters a guy that does his own barbecuing?
Or is there a guy there that's like Mr. Waters? I've got your fillet ready for you. I think that. I think so too.
I think so too. I think he's got a living chef. Probably does. He's got a living. But you know how he started.
He was actually the tape guy labeling tapes here. Come on! Swear to you. First job out of college labeling tapes. And then he got it to O'Reilly, and O'Reilly shaped him into.
And then said, "Listen, he solved a lot of them. He he went out there, man on the streets, man on the street, and he's got his guy. Yeah, that does that. All right. So here is some Gaffigan lines.
Tell me if you think this is funny, because aren't you? Doesn't your son do stand up? Ah, my 15 year old has dabbled in it. Yes. Okay.
Here is Jim Gaffigan. Let's see if you think this is funny. Cut 30. Ahead. Welcome, Mayor.
You are a socialist. You are a Muslim, and you were born in a foreign country. You are everything they accused Obama of being. Mayor Momdami won thanks to a diverse coalition of young voters, first-time voters, and working-class blacks and Hispanic communities. In other words, the opposite of tonight's audience.
Pretty funny, right? They look good. That's good. Yeah. I mean, there's a lot of people that don't want to laugh.
What could you tell me about your outkick show? Yeah, today. Today it's a football Friday. College football big games, obviously. Fox has a big one.
You know, Indiana, Ohio State, noon on Saturday. Obviously, the NFL. Your Giants trying to go to four one one. I went on Fox Weather on Thursday with BVD, and I'm sorry, Brian, I did say my lock of the weekend. Were the New Orleans Saints?
Oh, you kidding? Are you kidding? Do you believe it? Are you just taunting me?
