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From high atop Fox News headquarters in New York City, always seeking solutions, never sowing division. It's Brian Kilmeade. We got a very, very big show today. One of the guests will be Rich Lowry, editor of the National Review. We're also going to talk to Ryan's Previs.

Ryan's Previs recently ran the RNC. Talks about what it's going to take for the Republicans to push back against tradition and history, and actually keep a chamber or two in this midterm election. President United States got to get the hustle award. Let's see. Where has he been?

Oklahoma. He's been Texas. Where's he been? He's been in Nebraska. He's been Ohio.

He's Been in Tennessee, has been in Florida, obviously, and then he went yesterday to Alaska. Today he's going to Montana and probably back to Ohio again. Why? He wants to get his people out. He knows he maybe can't convert Democrats and Independents are a little upset right now about some cost of things, but he wants to get his people out.

If he can get them to go, he knows how they'll vote. If they could go and actually vote, let's get to the big three. Number three. Certainly, we were expecting some kind of escalation from Iran and its proxies, you know, prior to the midterms, and it looks like this is what they've selected to do: making more obviously on on innocent civilians who are not involved in the conflict whatsoever go in after an international airport. Yeah, that's General Jack Keen.

The Houthis are daring us to strike. The results will be their destruction, but also high gas prices. We're going to look at the Trump options. And have we abandoned Ukraine? Reports that.

We shut off intelligence sharing, and Elon Musk shut off Starlink. If so, it's the worst decision since the Afghanistan debacle. Number two, but somehow thirty million thirty million dollars magically appeared, then it magically disappeared.

Well, I can tell you that is subject of an investigation as well. We're looking at the facts. Based upon the facts, we'll follow them wherever they take us.

Solidifying their case, the Elon Omar investigation hit warp speed, and the immigration fraud might just go go back to her dad. Did he lie to come here all those years ago? Could she be kicked out of Congress and the country? Number one on November third, we're going to send one of the best and most respected senators in D.C., Dan Sullivan, the real, the real Dan Sullivan. I'm talking about the real Dan Sullivan, not the fake Dan Sullivan.

Yeah, there you go. President Trump in Alaska, packed crowd, midterms now. President Trump is trying to win every close race as he hits Alaska today, Kansas too. Is it enough to save the Senate? And could the sleeper for the GOP be Minnesota?

We're going to discuss why because you got the lieutenant governor who is all over. Fingerprints are all over the massive fraud, right? As the same time that that. Lieutenant Governor Flanagan is going against Michelle Tafuya, who is not known as a rock rib Republican. In fact, she's a new news person who's known by sports people, and they are that state is sports crazy.

I know it for a fact. And the fact that Michelle Tafuya can talk to you about the University of Minnesota basketball and football and the Vikings and what they plan on doing today, and they could bring up working with Al Michaels. Don't think that that doesn't matter with people that are up in the air and angry about. The way they've been treated by a terrible governor over the last eight years, who knew at least he knew not to run again. Lieutenant Governor Flanagan thinks that people will agree that she had nothing to do with all this corruption.

But the midterm elections—if I look at the Fox News power polls—it looks like they're projecting now that the House will flip. To the Democratic Party, and they represent. They think it's going to be two nineteen to one ninety eight. I mean, look what are power rankings? I don't know how the math is.

Foxes great people, but they tend to never really go for Republicans' way in terms of projections. And the Senate, here we go: lean Democrat, New Hampshire and Minnesota; lean, lean Republican, Kansas. These are the close races. Toss up, Alaska, Iowa. Missouri, Michigan.

I'm sorry, Maine, Michigan, Texas, and Ohio.

So much will be decided over the next two weeks in the midterm elections.

So that's why getting ranch prebasson is pretty cool. Here's the president yesterday. Cut twenty five. On November third, we're going to send one of the best and most respected senators in D.C., Dan Sullivan, the real, the real Dan. I'm talking about the real Dan Sullivan, not the fake Dan Sullivan.

Not the Dan Sullivan put up by the Democrats. No, we can't let that. That's just cheating. It's terrible. The guy never voted.

He never went. Never did anything. The fake, and they put him up. Oh no, I had no idea. Really wanted to run for it.

Never even thought about it. They found a guy named Dan Sullivan. They put him up to get a little confused. And actually, by mistake, he got 2.4 percent. That's a lot.

That's too much. That could be the difference.

So you gotta remember Dan Sullivan, Republican incumbent. All right, so what he's talking about, in case you don't remember, they put up a Dan Sullivan as a teacher with the same exact name, and only thing different is the initial to try to confuse people. Ranked choice voting says first and second, so it's not going to be outright who got the most first place votes. You combine it with second. I can't really explain the details of it, but I don't like it.

Does anybody like it? Dan Sullivan's a fantastic senator. He's actually produced. He was producing for the Biden administration, fighting back when Biden started cutting down the flow of oil and the pipelines. He was pushing back when they stopped the the digging, and the drilling offshore.

And now that Trump got in office, they worked out some sensational deals between the two.

So in Texas, the other really intriguing race, you have a Talarico against Paxson. Paxson led a big campaign.

Now where is James Talarico? He took off between nine and fourteen days because he said he had the flu. Which is stunning to me is maybe he did. You wouldn't go do a a Zoom and say, "Hey, you know, put a baseball hat on. I am not feeling well.

I don't want to get anybody sick." But this is what I am thinking about my policies. No, not close.

So Ken Paxton, maybe over the next day had twelve days on his own while money poured in to make a name for himself. Can he close a two point gap? Do you know anybody worth the salt? They couldn't.

So meanwhile, video comes out, and I don't think it's that big of a deal. Of Ken Paxton on New Year's Eve on two twenty twenty five in Cutter, who wouldn't be watching the fireworks, and they say. In the background, with some corrupt individuals, Ken Paxton said, "Oh yeah, here's my explanation. This is another politically motivated attack that will nowhere." Like President Trump, Ken Paxton has been politically persecuted for years, and every time voters have been through it, they send him back to office, and then they just talk about being a no big deal. Today, Barack Obama goes to campaign with Gerard Brown over in Cleveland, and that that'll be their version of a pushback.

Brown has been around forever. We'll discuss that.

So, what does it look like right now with the midterms? We'll talk about that in the big picture with Ryan's Priebus, and in about five minutes.

Meanwhile, two disturbing stories that make no sense over the last two days. You know, when I get into the morning, I come in at three. I'm on the I'm on the road at three. Put the AirPods in. Trying to listen to what's happening overseas and reading all the notes to get ready for the day, and I see this story rolling on the BBC that says that Ukraine is claiming that their intelligence was not shared with the U.S.

for the first time since the war started, and for the last two days, the Russian missiles have been just hitting into the the city of Kiev without any blocks, without any intelligence. You know what they're hitting? Apartment buildings and schools. And then we find out that Starlink, which aids the attack of the the rockets and missiles and drones of the Ukraine, has been shut off. Two stories.

President says I did not shut anything off, but I'm looking at these reports, seeing the damage we're hearing on the ground now. Officials speaking out, Polish officials, Ukrainian officials. It seems to be exactly what happened, and it is the if it is that decision. It's the worst foreign policy decision in America since Joe Biden decided to pull out of Afghanistan.

So, there's supposed to be an energy ceasefire. They they they were blowing up power plants last night in Ukraine. Does anybody think that Russia wants peace or or an energy ceasefire? General Jack Keane, Cut Fourteen. I think if there is a ceasefire, it'll be violated, and Russia will do that because they have violated every ceasefire that they've had going all the way back to 2014 with the Ukrainians, and every single one in Syria, they have violated here.

And here's what General Jackin says clearly, because he talks President Trump all the time. Cut 15. I don't doubt for a minute that Putin, the master pathological liar that he is, has convinced our president that he's genuine and sincere about wanting to make the deal and go to a ceasefire. But what's the evidence of that? Ever since the president has come on board, he's tried to, at a minimum, get a ceasefire and obviously a peace deal.

Zelensky has said yes right from the outset. Certainly, in the aftermath of the original Oval Office meeting, that was a disaster for Zelensky. But certainly thereafter, he was willing to go to an unconditional ceasefire, and that has been his position ever since. He's 100 right, but there's nothing, there's nobody to deal with.

So we do this ridiculous diesel deal with Russia. They get billions of dollars. You know what they're doing? They're they're funding you Iran. And what is Iran doing?

Blowing up our bases.

So if they're not providing satellite video of locations of our bases and us in Saudi Arabia, I mean, for example, they blew up an office building inside a building, an office inside a building that contained CIA. The only people that would know that would be Russia.

So why would we fuel Russia in any way? Why would we pass the Lindsey Graham bill that says anybody who buys energy from Russia gets tariffed by us, and then buy energy from Russia? Incredible.

So it makes no sense. General Jack Keane is trying to be diplomatic, as am I, because presidents make some really good foreign policy decisions. This one is a no-brainer, bad one. I hope both are not true, but my worry is that they Starlink is out, or at least down on purpose. And my my hope is it's not true, but the Wall Street Journal reporting that we cut off intelligence sharing over the last two days.

I mean, it's got to have happened. Why? Because evidently Whitcoff and Kushner threatened it in Florida last week, and they were in talks. When we come back, Rich Larry joins us from the National Review at the bottom of the hour. Ryan's Previs joins us from Wisconsin as he weighs in on what's happening in Minnesota and what's happening, what's happening around the country because there's a lot going on.

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It's Brian Kilmeade. So, what about these financials disclosure? This disclosure, she was given a pass by the House Ethics, but somehow thirty million, thirty million dollars magically appeared, then it magically disappeared.

Well, I can tell you that is subject of an investigation as well. We're looking at the facts. Based upon the facts, we'll follow them wherever they take us.

This is your office that's doing this. Yep. We'll see. We'll see where those facts go because this looks serious. U.S.

Attorney Jeanine Pirro confirming her office is also investigating Elon Omar's finances. As we learn, family members have been subpoenaed after the feds raided her D.C. home. Omar's immigration status facing new scrutiny. As suspicions about fraud may reportedly be backed by staff emails.

The New York Post reporting: "Quote, library staff were informed by Omar's congressional staff that her birth year was incorrect. They have from." 81 to 82, and requested that we change it to 1982. Omar's congressional staff are working with Wikipedia and the Biographical Directory of the U.S. Congress, and their other sources to correct her birth year on those sites. This is key because if she was 18, not 17, when she was a refugee, then she was too old and lied and couldn't be naturalized or serve in Congress.

Because if you're a minor and your dad gets naturalized, you get naturalized too.

So here we go. Where is this heading? Fox News political analyst and former Trump chief of staff, Ryan Spivak, joins us now. Hey, Ryan, the raid happened because a judge signed off on it, and evidently there were other raids involved, and this is multifaceted. What's your take?

Well, that's exactly what you just said. Was my first take, which is you had a DC District Court judge that signed off on this warrant, which means that there was probable cause, which means there was a fair amount of evidence presented to the judge in order to get a search warrant.

So you know, it's a curious thing, right? I mean, year one you say your assets are between fifteen and thirty thousand dollars, and then year two you report that. That same business has assets of between six million and thirty million dollars the next year.

Now, apparently, Omar says that well, that's because they made a mistake and they they did not report or they reported the liabilities of those companies in year two. But then my question would be, wait a minute, you have a business worth fifteen to thirty thousand dollars, and you have, and if you add in the liabilities, the Value is between six million and thirty million. I mean, what liabilities are they dumping? Into this small business, right? I mean, then you get a whole, you have an entire other issue to deal with.

Now, the the citizenship. I mean, you nailed it. I mean, obviously, you can't hook up to your dad's citizenship if you're 18, but if you're 17, you can. And and then, so the question then is, what are the results, Brian, of this? Let's say she's guilty of of she's or she's 18.

Well, you get deported, but you're not a U.S. citizen.

So therefore, you can't be in Congress. I mean, there's all kinds of problems that can happen if, in fact, this is you know, if she did lie and she was actually 18 and not 17. And real quick, her dad could have lied too. He said he was an educator. Evidently, he was a colonel at the military under that brutal dictator at the time.

And there's no proof. They said that they're looking to whether he actually became a citizen or not. She posted something says, "I'm okay." Make no mistake. A political attempt to animate from my enemies and weaponize federal law enforcement for ten years. Trump has targeted me with baseless lies and campaigns.

And bottom line, he's trying to raise money off it. But this is pretty serious. Let's move on and talk about the Fox Power Rankings when it comes to the midterms. For the first time, with three weeks left, they feel as though the House is now in the corner of the Democrats at a count of two hundred nineteen to one hundred ninety-eight. Is what is your analysis?

You were still running the RNC. How would you handle this news? Three weren't from election day.

Well, if I was if I was still at the RNC and I know what my you know what what I do in the end, I'm running down in the data room with the data guys who are just crunching who is voting in early vote absentee ballot voting and who are we targeting? Because just remember this: number one, the polling out there has always been about two and a half to four and a half percent underestimating Republican turnout.

So what we Know is and what's important is just remember the numbers: eighty, fifty-four, eighty million people voted in 2024 when Donald Trump won everything. Fifty-four million people voted in 2022. That means you have millions of people that love Trump, but they don't really care too much about a midterm.

So what am I doing? I am making sure that my bodies on the ground are targeting every single one of those voters that we know love Trump, but don't turn. Out, I've got bodies on the door. I'm checking the municipal clerks' offices. I'm making sure that those ballots are in because it only takes a few thousand votes to make the difference.

Last night, Donald Trump had thousands of people in Alaska. That only 180,000 people voted in 2024.

So if you have two percent, is like 3,600 people of 180,000.

So that that that's what I want to do. I want to make sure every one of those people vote. That we were at that rally. Yeah, and then finally, real quick, Michelle Tafoya within two points of Lieutenant Governor Flanagan, within four points. I say within Lieutenant Governor Flanagan.

That's the Star Tribune poll. That they say that could be the dark horse that saves the Senate for Republicans. Just want to weigh in, real quick. Yeah, well, I mean, the polls were off by six points in 2016, four and a half points in 2024. It's all about fraud.

She's she's independent and she's trying to. Herself and she is independent. She's got great name ID.

So you put all that together, it's a local issue. She's got a shot. Brian's Preibus, thanks so much. Always appreciate it. It's going to be an interesting few weeks.

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So, what about these financials disclosure? Disclosure she was given a pass by the House Ethics, but somehow thirty million thirty million dollars magically appeared, then it magically disappeared.

Well, I can tell you that is subject of an investigation as well. We're looking at the facts. Based upon the facts, we'll follow them wherever they take us.

Right, this is your office. That's doing this, yeah.

So Judge Nene Pira did it, but a judge signed off on it, not her. And they got a warrant and they raided Elon Omar's apartment, whatever it is—house, bungalow, brownstone—who knows—in D.C. And they did, and it's pretty significant, and it was high profile. And she came out, and she said, "Well, I'm going to fight this and raise money on it." But I notice it's not anger. There's no tears.

I think there's got to be legitimate worry, because I've done some research. I know a lot of people. I can't give out the name, but I was told. Think Rico. Number one.

Number two is the question was posed to me: Why do I think it was only one raid? And I said, "Does she have other homes in the area?" And they said no. Other people involved, not high profile, were raided simultaneously. Rich Lowry wrote a column on this for the National Review. He's all over it.

He it's called Elon Omar's Shady Family History. Gives Trump plenty of reasons to probe her past. Rich, welcome. Hey Brian.

So this is pretty big deal. A few weeks from election. Look, she's her election. Her seat's not in danger, but man, her status is number one. They're looking into did she change her birthdate a year?

What's the difference? If she's seventeen and her dad becomes citizen, that'll transfer her. But if she's eighteen, she's got to do her own thing. And there's more questions from that. Go ahead.

Yeah.

So a lot of people focused on the marriage to the alleged brother, but it's important to realize that doesn't didn't have anything to do with her. Status, if she did do that, it was getting him over here, and he ended up going back to the UK. And the statute of limitations would have run on that anyway a long time ago. I think it's five years. But the murkiness around her father and her age is potentially what they're looking at in terms of the immigration element of this very weird.

Brian, she refers to her father only as an educator in her memoir, whereas there's an obituary and other evidence that he was a Soviet-trained officer in the Somali military, and you know that's something you'd think you'd mention, right?

So that raises the issue: Did he come here and get asylum, just saying, "Oh, you know, I was a teacher," rather than mentioning I was a Soviet-trained colonel in this blood-soaked military? Yeah, and then there's the question of her age, as you as you as you note, and and there's you know been there's a suggestive change, you know, at the New York Post just. Noted yesterday in her congressional bio or congressional almanac or whatever it was, it changed her age. That would have made her seventeen at the time, but she may have been eighteen or nineteen.

So that's not a criminal offense, but it could they could go out try to denaturalize her because legal immigrants who do it the right way they are so paranoid about getting everything exactly. Right, and she may not have.

So the birth year discrepancy is big. The other one is finances. They're looking into her finances.

So she she puts on her form. She earned between six and thirty million on an amended filing. She amended the filing, then reduced it to eighteen thousand to ninety five thousand. Oh, the ethics committee looks at it and they recommended dismissing any financial disqualms or allegations. Don't know how they came up with that, but look, it's majority.

That ethics committee is majority Republican, right? Yeah, so I don't know whether whether it's something to do with her husband and you know having a stake in some political consultancy and what it's valued at. I don't know, but it's the the the thing that'd be more serious is what you're referring to and what you've been told is that there's another element. It's not just the immigration stuff. There may be financial wrongdoing here, and that.

That would create the potential criminal risk. Yeah, I mean, fourth thing we found a lot of times in the past, people have lied to get asylum. People have lied about their past. Like, if you're a Nazi, you don't go, "Hey, I'm a Nazi, can I come in?" Yeah, exactly. You come back and say, "Hey, I'm a librarian, and here's the proof of my forged documents," and you hope no one discovers you.

Oftentimes they did.

So if this guy lied and he was a colonel accused of, you know, a communist colonel who came to our country, right there you got to be kicked out.

So if I don't know the answer this, but if his dad, her dad, who's deceased, came over here, lied on the application, giving his family citizenship, and it turns out he lied, so they nullify his citizenship. Does it nullify the families? I don't know either. I. I think it would be grounds for denaturalization, but then there's the question I asked an immigration expert I rely on for everything.

You know, who knows this stuff backwards and forwards. Yesterday, so let's say she's denaturalized, and I don't think they're if they're doing that. You know, I think the odds are against it. But even if they're doing it, it's not going to happen instantly, right? And I think she could probably run out the clock.

That Trump will just no longer be president before this is resolved. But let's just say in theory she's denaturalized. Does she go anywhere? Do you deport her because she's married to a U.S. citizen?

She has U.S. citizen children, and and this guy didn't know, so I I don't know the answer to that. Either so evidently the husband's not out of the woods at all. In fact, he's a subject of possible he's a subject of scrutiny. How about that?

He is Tim Minet. He's a winery. He with no experience.

Okay, happens. He got into the wine business. He's a venture capitalist. Initially reported making between six and thirty million, like his wife combined, and then revised it to zero net value and with liabilities. The discrepancies fueled questions about Omar's financial disclosures.

Exposures, which may have in fact triggered this investigation, last sighting Fox saw Minette entering the Washington home Tuesday, one day after the search.

So we'll see. Got the immigration, you got the money, and so far, I mean, there is no tie to the Minneapolis fraud that we know of. Yeah, if you are if you are being smeared, and all this just is is based on you know presumptions on built on incomplete information or whatever. Sit down with a neutral journalist. Bring out all the documents.

Explain everything. Explain the marriage. Explain what your dad really did and how he got asylum. Explain what you know about your age. Explain the finances and the changing of the disclosure forms.

Just explain all of it. And the problem is, one of the problems is all all this is a black box, right? And which which leads you to be very suspicious. All right, I want to do something totally different because you're Rich Lowry and you can do anything. Let's talk about what's happening.

Really disturbing what's happening in Ukraine. I was watching some international reporting to get ready for the morning show today, and I'm watching on the ground the devastation in Kiev, and it looks like they're claiming for the last two days we have shut off intelligence sharing and Starlink has curbed its curbed Ukraine's ability to strike inside Russia and. This has been. I see the Polish weighing in, calling out Musk for doing this. It looks as though I just have a source text me and says it is true, and the president made doesn't look like he knew of it.

So I am outraged. It was a year ago when they cut off weaponry to Ukraine without telling the president. Why do people not understand that they're the good guys? Why do people not understand that they're actually winning this war and taking down our enemy in the process? Yeah, I don't get it either.

If this is happening, it's a total outrage. You know, why are we hippy punching the victim of a war of aggression that's an ally of? Of ours, Vladimir Putin is no friend of ours, and the problem is Ukraine just doesn't have a lot of interceptors. Obviously, doesn't have fighter jets, so it's it's basically held, you know, it's defenseless against these these attacks. And he's trying to starve them out and freeze them out this winter, and they're being blamed for hitting back, you know, and hitting refineries.

And the idea that there be a moratorium on refinery attacks—well, Ukraine doesn't have refineries, and Russia does, so that doesn't make any sense. I think Ukraine would take a total energy ceasefire, as Trump was touting the other day. But there's no sign that that Putin's interested in that at all.

So I just don't get this, Brian. I thought Trump would come in, he'd want a peace deal. He'd realize, well, it's not going to happen. It's not going to happen because of Vladimir Putin. I don't like Vladimir Putin, and that for a period of time was his posture.

But now he's kind of flipped back to being anti-Zelensky.

So this is this is depressing and. Serving, and I just don't get it. I I don't get it, especially because I'm not asking you to take somebody who's on the stretcher as a country and try to give them try to give them oxygen. I'm watching this country adjust and modernize warfare in real time, thanks a lot to our American companies and their tremendous ingenuity and fortitude. And now they're taking it to Russia and they're destroying their economy.

There, as it was explained to me by war experts, instead. Just trying to stop the arrow, they're trying to kill the archer, and that's what they're doing with the energy.

So, okay, refineries could be handled with a phone call. Hey, guys, can you aim for the oil fields and not the refineries? Just give us a break into the mid. That could have been with a phone call.

Now, I don't want Zelensky calling out the president publicly either. I don't know why he's such a slow learner. That never works. It never works. Yeah.

Look, I mean, I'd be happy. I don't understand why Ukraine wouldn't want this. I'd be happy to just draw draw a line on the map where it is now. Say, okay, Russia has de facto control this territory, and let's stop. But that's not what Putin wants, right?

He he wants to punish Ukraine. He wants to take more territory. And every time, kind of Trump goes into this mode where he's anti-Zelensky, it encourages Putin and makes any sort of real ceasefire or peace deal. Much less likely. Yeah, it's disappointing because the president on so many cases, Rich.

Is doing an unbelievable job on foreign policy. What he's doing in Central and South America is historic. Brazil is going to be the next major domino to fall, and that's not to be not to be a satellite of America, but just to be a conservative country to rid the the yoke of China. If they go and Bolsonaro wins, we know the Cuba is about to fall, and we see what's happened with eight other countries, and then we see the the twenty new trade deals reconfiguring trade. Long after he's gone, to rebalance and trying to and wow, there's a massive effort underway for our ultimate security, and that's get our own rare earth deals, so we no longer have to depend on China.

There's so much impressive. We're modernizing the mass production of weaponry. At Joe Lansdale on the other day, we're getting away from the primes who have led us down as a country, and we're getting to more sophisticated, less. I guess less intensive, but more sophisticated weaponry that's lighter and faster, easier to make. We're doing all this, but why we can't get this right?

These two lingering problems, I don't get. Yeah, he just has a be in his bonnet about Ukraine, kind of always has, and may date back to the the first impeachment. But you know, Russia's helping Iran, you know, and and Iran is resisting us and still blowing up ships in the Strait of Hormuz, and it's a Iran is ultimately responsible for the increase in fuel prices. Yes, Ukraine, Russia's played a role, but that's the big thing, and Russia's on the wrong side of that one.

So it's just it's hard to fathom. All right. Lastly, on the on the midterm elections, I guess the Fox Power Rankings have the House flipping, and I think they're going to be they'll have over two hundred votes, over two hundred seats for. For Democrats and 198 for for the Republicans in the Senate. There's eight toss ups to one lean Republican in a toss up, and that's Kansas.

The other two lean Democrat, including Minnesota. What does Rich Lowry think of National Review? I'm Brian. I'm kind of more in I just don't know mode. As as we've talked about for maybe a year, I think Republicans are losing the House.

I think that's baked in the cake. But these Senate races are so close. If there is just a polling error of a point or two, it make a difference in a lot of them. If it tilts one way or the other at the end, the way sometimes these races do, you know, Republicans could easily hold the Senate, but they could easily lose six seats.

So, I think just the thing is on a knife edge. Yeah, I don't even think anything's baked in the cake. I did see tactically they pulled out all the money from the opponent to Henry Cuellar in Texas. Because he's not liked by Democrats, but he's liked enough by his constituents, and he got his pardon from the president. And I don't think he'll be an enemy of the president.

But he's not going to. That's going to be one of the gerrymandered seats that's not going to flip.

So that leaves four. And then, of course, you got the Senate seat that's going to matter. And I think the president thinks he can pull out Alaska. I think he's got he's got to salt away Kansas today. Probably go back to Texas.

Your thoughts, Rich, on exit question on why Talarico took between nine and twelve days off. Very weird. Tell me what you think it could be. It's very weird. You know, I I tend to be anti-conspiracy theory.

You know, that that leads me to be wrong because sometimes it really are conspiracy theories. It it just may be they didn't want him to be raspy voice. They didn't want him to look pale. That you know, because it be could use be used against him. But a healthy guy.

Now I know has diabetes, but a young healthy guy being out for that long with with the flu is. It's very very odd. I I just don't know. Yeah, I just think that if it's one or two points and you're gone for ten days, and they put two hundred million into the race for your opponent, the reports are that Talarico is so confident he thinks he won already. Yeah, well, that's he's an idiot if thinks that.

Rich Larry, thanks so much.

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One eight six six four zero eight seven six six. Tony, you can write me at briankilmey dot com. I was just talking before about the midterm elections, endlessly intriguing, and I just think it's unbelievable that I'm looking at some of these polls and I'm writing them down because they're they're in, but they make absolutely no sense. And I'm not talking about the individual races. I'm talking about talking to people in America, just talking to people about who do you favor on the big issues.

So get this. Gallup, reputable organization, favorability when it comes to Democrats and Republicans. Democrats lead forty three thirty five compared with last year. Democrats gained six points. Republicans have lost five on the economy.

Americans favor Democrats fifty one thirty seven. Can you please tell me anything that Joe Biden did to grow the economy? Did he cut taxes? All he did was increase spending, pile on the debt, cause massive inflation, allow the border to run wild, use social services to pay for illegal immigrants. I mean, there is nothing positive.

Then he has that that that new Green Deal. That they told us was the Inflation Reduction Act, and they they laughed. They laughed. Oh yeah, it never really it was never supposed to attack inflation. That was basically destroying the gas and oil industry and trying to build an electric car infrastructure.

They built nine terminals. The people at Tesla laughed at them. That's what you want, America. Heading into the nation's biggest biggest problem, the heading into this election, what's the biggest problem for Republicans? Democrats are list listed at better equipped to handle America's biggest problems at a forty four to thirty three level.

What the way they handle your cities of Chicago, New York, and Los Angeles and Philadelphia? That's the Democratic way of leading. Every single Democratic state. Is losing people because they destroy the environment by being permissive on homelessness, by overtaxing, and making social services impossible to finance, and then people get up and leave to Texas and Florida. And now, when asked what party is better equipped to keep you happy, keep you safe, and keep you productive, am I to believe Gallup polling that you still pick?

The party that ruined every major city in the country. If the answer is yes, I'm a mind. You adapt to me. You're just blindly anti-Trump or against the war, independence, favor Democrats fifty to thirty-two, on prosperity forty to twenty-seven. Are you kidding me?

What about the Democrats' programs? Is pro prosperity. Remember, the the rock star on the left, the two, AOC and Mayor Mom Donny, don't think we should have billionaires. Says nobody is worth a billion dollars. That's the genius that said I don't want Amazon coming to New York City because they get a tax break and destroyed what would have been a Long Island City tax boom.

They don't have any policies. I mean, there was a time where Secretary of Treasury Rubin and you know, you have you know all these other all these other deep thinkers on the left and right that would talk about different philosophy of economy. But all you have is people that just say, don't for don't vote for him. They like Donald Trump. I mean, I'm stunned at this number.

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So let's get to the big three. Number three. Certainly, we were expecting some kind of escalation from Iran and its proxies, you know, prior to the midterms, and it looks like this is what they've selected to do: making war, obviously, on on innocent civilians who are not involved in the conflict whatsoever. Go in after an international airport. Yeah, Houthis is a bunch of thugs, are daring us to strike.

The result will be their destruction, but also high gas prices in the short term. We're going to look at Trump's options and have have we just abandoned Ukraine?

Some disturbing news. That has just emerged. I'll share it with you. Number two, but somehow thirty million, thirty million dollars magically appeared, then it magically disappeared.

Well, I can tell you that is subject of an investigation as well. We're looking at the facts. Based upon the facts, we'll follow them wherever they take us.

Janine Piero solidifying their case. The Elon Omar investigation hit warp speed, and the immigration fraud. Mike just go back to her dad. Could she be kicked out of Congress and the country? Number one on November third, we're going to send one of the best and most respected senators in D.C., Dan Sullivan, the real, the real Dan Sullivan.

I'm talking about the real Dan Sullivan, not the fake Dan Sullivan. And he's not kidding. There's another Dan Sullivan in the race, and it's ranked choice voting, so it is a problem.

So we are talking midterms. President Trump is trying to win every close race as he hits Alaska, and now today he's going to Kansas and then Montana. Is it enough to save the Senate? And could the sleeper for the GOP be Minnesota? Right now, the latest poll in the Star Tribune has Michelle Tafuya within three points.

She's been as close. Is one point, but who wants that Lieutenant Governor Flanagan to win? I mean, she's a radical lefty. She's she got fraud all over her. She she's either oblivious to what was happening in our country, in her state, and to our country with federal funds, or she's a part of it.

I don't know what is worse. Is that the person that earned the promotion? Believe me, the last guy to have the job was running for reelection and wanted to be president. It is so bad he knew. He better just drop out, and I'm talking about that Tim Walz and embarrassment of an American and his ridiculous family.

But Minnesota is going to be key, and here's why: nobody is expecting it. No one's expecting New Hampshire to flip, but if anyone could do it, it's Sinunu, and in Michigan, El Saeed probably is the most disturbing candidate for either party that I've seen nominated in my lifetime. And now these ties to the Muslim Brotherhood, and it's not my idea. These are the words of his sister praising with her praising stories her mom told her about her days in the Muslim Brotherhood, and then the group that she's dealing with and working for has links to Bin Laden. That's that is Abdul El Sayed's family.

How could Mike Rogers not be winning by fifteen points? Also, blatantly anti-Semitic, blatantly anti-Israel, wants to cut off all weaponry. There are tens of thousands of Jews in Michigan. Not one of them should vote Democrat. Not one.

Because I got news for you: about eighty percent of the party is anti-Israel right now, and the other ones are the Kurds to speak up, like Senator Schumer. With us right now is Stacy Garrity, Republican nominee for governor of Pennsylvania. Welcome back, Stacy. Oh, welcome, Stacy. Thanks, Brian.

Great to be with you, Stacy. It's pretty hard running against the guy that's trying to run for president at the same time, Governor Shapiro. He walks in with a substantial lead. What have you done to cut into that lead?

Well, we just had a debate. The only debate he agreed to, which was October seventh, and since then I've gotten a lot of traction. I mean, a lot of grassroots excitement and a lot more money pouring in because he wouldn't answer any question. He wanted to be all things to all people. Just a lack of transparency, and quite honestly.

He showed up. He didn't want to be there, and he left very angry.

Well, do you think that he could he answer the question? Is he running for president? Would he finish out his term if he wins? He would not answer that. The moderators tried to pin him down three different times, and but you know that's the worst kept you know news story in Pennsylvania.

We all know that he's more interested in Pennsylvania Avenue than helping Pennsylvania families, and it shows, Brian, because. We rank forty seventh out of fifty economically, and that's U.S. News and World Report. And we have the fifth highest tax burden in the nation, which means a family making seventy thousand dollars is paying three thousand dollars more every single year than that same family in Florida. Right, Stacey, where do you stand on data centers?

Because all of a sudden, Governor Shapiro went from please come to please don't. Yes, I know.

So I held five listening sessions around the Commonwealth, and in May I came out with my position. I called for a pause because I talked to township supervisors, county commissioners, local solicitors, community leaders, and they all said the same thing. It's not that they're against data centers, but they needed time to get their zoning updated.

So my position was very clear: bring your own energy, need to be an addition to the grid, have a closed loop system, make sure they are not on precious farmland. There are so many different blighted areas, brownfield sites, industrial sites in our Commonwealth that they don't need to be on farmland, and there needs to be community engagement agreements. What he did is he did the twenty billion dollars Amazon deal, took gave them sweetheart tax deals, took ten million dollars from data center developers and political contributions. Six million of that was out of state, and then when he saw what the polling showed. You know, because he doesn't make his decisions on what's best for Pennsylvanians, he bases it on polls.

He took that money, how ironically, and used it to run negative ads against me, two million dollars every single week, basically saying I'm the queen of data centers and calling them greedy. Right, but without data centers, you're not going to be able to use that phone. We're not going to be able to use.

So, oh, I know. Oh, absolutely! I'm just saying there's appropriate ways to do it, and there's appropriate places to put them, and that they need to have some skin in the game.

So, community engagement agreements—they can be helping these communities with property taxes, with their roads, with their schools.

So, Mike Johnson was asked about the polling that doesn't look strong for Republicans. Before I get your response, here's his cut: forty, forty. I'm in Texas today. We'll do three events here, and then I'll head. I think I've got eight states this week.

I've been doing this for almost two years, and I'm telling you, the polling is wrong. I'm on the ground in the swing districts. I am seeing huge energy and crowds. It feels like 2024 to me. That's not registering in the polls, and we're fired up.

So, where do you stand with that, Stacy Garrity?

So, when I look at the polls, we look at the crosstabs and the way they're weighted. They have Democrats really. Having more, you know, participation at the polls that they they have them like D plus nine, and that is just not what's happening.

So I agree with Mike Johnson. I think you know the grassroots are really starting to pay attention, get energized, and I wouldn't necessarily say that it's like twenty four, but it's not what's being portrayed in the polls. There's absolutely no way. What's the game plan for the last two weeks?

So we are everywhere. We are crisscrossing the state. We are holding, you know, rallies, fundraisers, all different sorts of events.

So, so you know, I'm 24 seven because I'm still the treasurer as well. Fetterman and Shapiro do not get along. They never did. No, they don't. Have you contacted Senator Fetterman?

I see, I see John occasionally, and we have a good relationship.

So, would he help you out at all? Endorse you, or I don't think he'd endorse me, but he does say nice things for sure. And yeah, we've always we've always gotten along very well, right? And do you think that he might flip parties if it's a fifty if it's a fifty fifty situation? You can you see him switching parties?

Is he that mad at his party? I could see him moving to independent. I'm not so sure that he would move to. You know, go go that far to cross over to Republican, but I could definitely see him. I mean, he cannot run as a Democrat.

We all know that, right? I mean, he got single digit support. It seems. Yes, and they're they're lining up to take him out.

So I don't think he'll be running as a Democrat. Stacy Garrity, if people want to support you, where do they go? Yes, thanks, Brian. Go to Garrityforpa dot com. That's Garrityf or pa dot com.

Best of luck in the final weeks, Stacy Garrity. Thanks so much against Governor Shapiro in the race to be the next governor of Pennsylvania. You're listening to the Brian Kilmeade Show. So glad you're here. Don't go anywhere.

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But for your sanctuary policy, you have invited criminals to come into our state and prey on our com on our communities. And now you won't let local law enforcement cooperate with ICE in an orderly way. Just four days ago, you stood on a stage screaming at the top of your lungs, "We love Donald Trump." Now, which is it that makes him so great? Is it the high utility costs, the high grocery costs, the high gas costs? Is it his unfettered use of ICE terrorizing our neighborhoods?

Yeah, that's one way to do it. You could say the twenty trade deals. You could say what has happened in Central and South America. You could talk about basically the massive oil drilling that's setting up, and as well as exploration that's setting us up for the future to become the number one exporter of fossil fuels in the world. Yes, fossil fuels in the world by shelving out of the new green mania that was jammed down everybody's throats for the last twenty five years by sobering up everybody by.

Building our military by also can add something else to that fray. How about recruiting through the roof? How about the creation of A space force? How is that going? Reinvigoration of our space program?

How inventive is that? The whole growth of our space industry in the private sector? How about a decrease in private in private job in a public sector jobs of a sixty-year low? But yet unemployment hasn't budged at four point one percent.

So why is that? Why is it so hard to defend that record? You don't like the war? That's fine. If you have a president making.

Twenty-five major decisions a week, sometimes more, sometimes less, and you disagree with some. That's called being a human being. But man, when you look at the overall record, the other guy was working ninety minutes a day and doesn't remember anything, and this guy doesn't stop. And yeah, he's all around ice. He's picking up illegal immigrants, criminals, and sealing the border.

So. I didn't see the debate, but those are some highlights from Bruce Blakeman taking on Governor Kathy Hochul. And one thing they don't agree on: everything. President, of course, would have trouble getting elected in New York. We understand that; he understands that.

Almost every Republican would, but because Democrats have done such a terrible job here, I think it opens up all possibilities, all possibilities for the future in the New York governors in the New York governor's race. I think they say it's not. Nine point race, mostly like a four point race. Here's more from the sparring that took place last night, and now they talked about Sheridan Gorman. Remember, she was killed in Chicago by an illegal immigrant in West.

She lived, her family lives in Westchester. She lived in Westchester, where she was in school, and not one call from the governor of the state about a horrible murder at the hands of another illegal immigrant. Cut thirty five, Governor Hochul, under your sanctuary policies. A 14-year-old girl was raped recently here in New York State by an illegal migrant. Four Arundelquart residents were killed recently by an illegal migrant.

Two of those victims were children under the age of five. Two Nassau County women in their 30s were killed by an illegal migrant because of your sanctuary policies. Will you apologize? To that 14-year-old girl whose life is forever changed, and her family, and the families of those who were killed—the ones that'll never get to sit another Thanksgiving dinner, never be able to open their president's presents under Christmas tree—will you apologize to them? And will you please return Sheridan Gorman's parents' calls to talk to you about your sanctuary policy?

So I guess we don't have an answer there, but I read the answer, and it looks as well. Do we have the answer? Here it is. You know, any crime is heartbreaking. There's a family left with a huge hole in their heart, and I abhor all crimes, regardless of the perpetrator.

Victims deserve our sympathy. They deserve our compassion. And that's why I've laser focused on making New York so much more safer than it had been before. I have spent four billion dollars to help law enforcement do their jobs. We have driven down crime to historic lows, especially violent crimes like shootings and murders.

And that didn't come easy. That took a lot of work. I've had to change laws. I've had to allocate more money. Didn't answer the question.

Didn't return the Gorman's calls. Unacceptable. Here's more. Cut thirty-seven. You took an oath as well to support the Constitution of the United States, and you violated federal laws on and on again.

You are paying illegal migrants with our taxpayer money, eight billion dollars for free food, free housing, free transportation, and a free cell phone. They get more than we do. And think about this: if you get out of work, if you're laid off, if you're fired. And you want to get unemployment? You get less benefits as a New Yorker than the eighty-one thousand dollars of your taxpayer money that Kathy Hochul spends each year on illegal migrants in our state.

So, Bruce, I will end our sanctuary state status on day one as governor.

So I thought that's an effective argument made. Hopefully, people are listening because it's really irrefutable what was brought up.

So we'll see what happens in the governor's race. If he can get closer to Zeldin, Lee Zeldin got within six points, and we'll see if he get within four points and see if he can do any further. The other big battle is what's happening. As I just exuded stated earlier, it's just outrageous that Mike Rogers is not leading by a lot over Abdul El Aseed. And they talked about the links to the Muslim Brotherhood.

They put in an ad about it. There's really no spin. You're reading the text messages between mother and daughter, who is El Sayed's sister, and the links to the Muslim Brotherhood and extremists. Is this true? Here's Mike Rogers with Harris Faulkner yesterday.

Cut 38. Is he just lied again to Michiganers? He just looked right in the camera and said, "No relation, no interest in the Muslim Brotherhood." This guy cannot tell the truth on this, and that's why I think he's in a little trouble today. Yeah, he doesn't just say it. He said, "Well." How do you feel about Sharia law?

Oh well, that's not the law of the land. People want to put food on the table. Sharia law would be a new country. Anybody who thinks for Sharia law, you can't like gays, you can't like women. Their lives over.

You do Sharia law, your lives over. Right? You become a servant, become invisible. Wear your burka. And forty-three percent of young people in America evidently are for Sharia law.

I don't believe all this stuff, but I'm just telling you. That's what they're saying. I don't put. I mean, the Gallup poll blows me away. That almost on every indicator, Republicans are losing to Democrats from the economy on down, and independents by a huge margin.

By the way, it makes no sense. They have no policies for it.

So, to me, you would have to do something like that.

Meanwhile, when we come back, Caroline Downey is going to be joining us, and we're going to be talking about we're going to be talking about the rise of socialisms on the left. But the President United States. He got about a thousand or three thousand people last night. There's about 180,000 will vote in Alaska. I hope he's able to close the gap and get those two to three points because we know Dan Sullivan, the senator, the senator from Alaska.

We know that not many people can vote in that huge tundra. Not many people vote early.

So my thing is the president showing up last night that indeed could that indeed could be the difference. All right, you listen to the Brian Kilmeade show. Don't forget to pick up United States the six true. Moments, the Ford's American miracle. Remember, Friday night I'm going to be in Red Bank, New Jersey, a stage show like no other.

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Did you always want to be a champagne socialist? Um, yes. You once said, "Let the streets soak in red capitalist blood." How was the Oscar parties this year? It was weird. Jeff Bezos was there.

Terrifying. A lot shorter than I thought he would be.

So that's Hassan Pike, or the that really bizarre so-called California streamer that El Sayed forgot existed. Caroline Downey joins us now, columnist for the National Review. Caroline, welcome back. Thanks for having me back.

So why was that significant? You wrote about this. What what is a champagne socialist? Is someone who prescribes equality or equity for the masses, but actually enjoys living a life of luxury.

So that's that's the problem. Is the hypocrisy here? And granted, this was a satirical show. The clip you just played. She's this comedic talk show host.

So Hassan Piker went onto the show, knowing that was the premise, knowing he was just kind of be he was going to be jabbed at and mocked essentially the whole time. But still, was kind of a PR risk because those clips always go viral. I've been following this show for a long time, and conservative and independent. Audiences were bound to find it, and honestly, he he put himself in some unflattering positions. Not just by admitting he's a champagne socialist, but also admitting that he he absolutely is going to have a 2.7 million dollar home.

He enjoys all these nice designer things. It's but he you know he he thinks that housing should be free.

So he was caught in just so many inconsistencies, and she checked him on that. And okay, well, see, I guess in a comedic way. In a comedic way, yes. But this is the thing: is he? I think he went on because maybe he thought it would be humanizing to him to maybe unpersuaded audiences.

But she, she challenged him at at the heart of his inconsistency with regards to how he publicly, you know, professes politics and then how he privately lives.

So in one clip, he said, "Well, yes, I have a two point seven million dollar home, but I have a mortgage. I didn't put all cash down. It's not like I'm loaded." I'm like liquid and low to a cash that I can put up, and he said I want home home ownership to be something that is accessible to everyone. I want housing to be free. But again, and she challenged him on that, but didn't go any further.

If I had been her, she this was good journalistic practice. I will say, probably the best journalistic experiment we've seen. You know, Hassan Piker.

Well, Piker hasn't stopped. Piker said Talarico is going to owe us. We're going to make sure he does what I tell him. Really, realize how detrimental that is to his election. He's trying to say I had revelations.

I'm a moderate, but Asad Bager says no. He's mine. I made him. That's going to be killer. And El Sayid, all his appearances.

That's got to be a killer, doesn't it? Yeah, yeah, I think I think Hasan Piker is increasingly putting himself in in a in a weird spot in the Democratic Party, and some you know mainstream Democratic politicians they're not sure what to do with him. He's kind of like this liability to some, but to others he's he's someone that is obviously popular with young people on the internet. That's why he's able to afford a two point seven million dollar home is because his streaming makes quite a lot. He's a massive audience.

You know, they you know we can't can't dismiss that. Influence that he has, but but he's like going to be the Achilles heel because his record, his past remarks, which are not said ironically, unlike what this satirical show was, he has unironically said outlandish, egregious things about America, about our relationship with Israel, and many other things, and that's going to continue to haunt him and anyone the Democratic Party who somehow sympathizes with him. anybody think Elon Omar likes his country? Does anyone think? No.

Does anyone think anyone in the squad likes country? No. I don't think anyone does.

So, do you think Elsie likes country? No, he is hostile to the American project, and he is explicitly so, especially in the way that he kind of, kind of suggests that our enemies abroad, our adversaries, well, you know, they have a case. You know, we we should give them, we should give them some more thought. Give them some grace. Give them some grace.

That's not how this works. America first. American exceptionalism means we acknowledge we are the good guys. We are not the bad guys. Who or or we're the morally Questionable guys who maybe have some repenting and explaining to do on the world stage.

No more apology tours, and El Saeed wants to basically mainstream that. Right, he does, and he doesn't want. Remember, no billionaires, no certainly no trillionaires. He don't think they should be legal.

So this billionaires tax in California is a big deal. Right now, it looks like it's winning.

Now, the billionaires have already said we're out of here. Zuckerberg left. All these guys are leaving.

So Gavin Newsom says I'm not for it, but he's not campaigning against it.

So this is a Bernie Sanders dream. He wants to bring this national. Yeah, he absolutely does. Gavin Newsom. He's such a political chameleon.

He threads the needle.

So delicately, so that he doesn't spook his own party apparatus.

So you know he doesn't condemn this proposal outright, but he also knows that the capital that has been chased out of that state, even in anticipation. Of the policy, just when it was being floated, like to your point, entrepreneurs started to leave in droves.

So this is what happens: money is mobile. People and and business people can move with can vote with their feet, and and they often do. And the problem is, is that Gavin Newsom is still a big progressive. He still wants an expansive, you know, government and welfare state. All those programs are paid for by the rich, by the wealthy, and he's not going to have a tax base to.

Exploit anymore? It looks like you know what. You always hope that when people get in, they realize what I was saying is not practical. It's probably not possible. Do you think Montgomery has found that out yet?

Yes.

Well, I mean, like I we were saying this earlier. When he came into office, he had this laundry list of ideas he wanted to implement. All very expensive. Yeah.

And then he comes in, he says, "Oh, you know, the city's broke. You didn't know that." Like you totally knew that the city was broke while you were running on the campaign trail, but then you got a bailout from Kathy Hochul to make a two-year-old school, and then they have no students, no teachers.

So I don't know what's going on there. I don't know what's going on, but yeah, I think I think I'll be quite honest. Mom Donny, though, all of his ideas are so noxious, and I think his election was a watershed. It was a watershed moment in a bad way. I haven't noticed that tangible of a difference in the quality of life, and I think that's because, thankfully, the mayorship is handicapped by the legislature and other guardrails.

So I think he's limited in how much damage he can inflict. He's trying. He had a terror tax. He's demonizing. Court slowed him down on that.

Court slowed him down. Right.

So checks and balances are still working, and Kathy Hochul knows that. Again, she can't afford to have so. Wealth exit the state, right? In terms of in terms of what's going on in various races, so we drilled down on them. I want you to hear Byron Donalds, who's in just a single digit lead over his opponent, cut thirty three.

You even have my opponent here. Last night, he said that he will ignore Florida's constitution and Florida's law where he sees fit, working around that, trying to use executive action where Florida's constitution and Florida's law does not allow him to. And so, this is why these elections truly do matter. The voters of Florida, just like all across across America, we need you to get out and vote to make sure that we have common sense policies that work for the American people that have been proven to work for the. People here in Florida, make sure you get out a vote in 21 days.

So, do you think do you think this going to be effective? That type of message. Yeah, yeah. I think. I mean, it could be.

I think. I think Byron Donalds is a very good communicator. I think he would be an excellent successor to Ron DeSantis. My home state is Florida, and I can. Actually, tell you that the way that Ron DeSantis governs, especially over COVID, and I mean just the number of Republican voters who swarmed into that state from the tri-state area, the evacuees from essentially blue-state communism, it is a stronghold of those values.

And Byron Donalds is very much an extension of that leadership style. And I think if he's elected, it's going to be more of the same: unlocking economic prosperity in the state. Freedom as the utmost principle for the state of Florida, and making sure that the Sun Belt is still a place where businesses and families want to flock to. Yeah, that would be that would be helpful because families do need some things to do.

So, so we'll see where we go from there. The the guy who wants to be the next governor of New York was out and about, Bruce Blakeman, and we have that tape of where Bruce. I had a chance to talk earlier.

Okay, we'll hold off on that. But Bruce Blakeman needed a knockout. I see that in the paper today. Michael Goodwin, a great friend of the show, New York Post says it was. Do you think he was?

Repeat the question about the Blake Min Hokeal debate. Oh yeah, yeah. No, I mean, in another debate that hasn't been talked enough about, but I'm really keen to do a feature on her is the New York Attorney General challenger to Letitia James, Sarita. I don't know if you've been following this. Yeah, but it's just, I mean, she kind of came like through like a wrecking ball on X.

Some of the the moments from that debate that went viral are basically. Fact-checking, you know, Letitia James and calling out the fact that she's become a partisan hack. Much of the New York Democratic machine has become just partisan hackery, where they are concerned so much with national politics and Trump derangement syndrome, and obsessed with that. It's one party. It's a one-party state.

Yeah, yeah, but it's like even if it is, your concern is not Trump. Your concern is rooting out crime in New York City and in you know in general in the state. And making sure that it's a hospitable place for business and people to thrive. Your concern should not be what's going on in Washington. You know, let's focus on MAGA and make sure we're we're you know undermining MAGA.

That that's like the last thing on I I believe average New Yorkers' minds. Many average New Yorkers' minds.

So one of the key races going to be Michigan, and El Sayed's link to the Muslim Brotherhood through his sister is pretty real. As you saw, the communication with her mother, who was proudly saying, "When I was younger, I was in the Muslim Brotherhood." And she tweets out, "Does the daughter and brother? Hey, you know I'm so proud of my mom." Something to that effect. At which time they say, "Well, nothing else really happened here." But my goodness, if you have your mother admitting to that, what does it say about El Sayed?

Well, look, we've seen him, and now several candidates and politicians in the Democratic Party, predominantly, that have cozied up. To the radical Islamist flank, that is not, in my opinion, compatible with the American Constitution, the American project. It's also incredibly tone deaf, given that this was the 25th anniversary of 9/11. Which you know, calling back to Mom Donny, I mean, it is it is pretty striking that this is the paradigm we're living in right now, and and you know, democratic politics is that there's a lot of justification for essentially, you know. Islamist actors, some of which do terrorism or condone terrorism, because America's military adventures in the Middle East, by their logic, invited all of this.

Here's here's Mike Rogers talking about his opponent's links to the Muslim Brotherhood at 38. Is he just lied again to Michiganders? He just looked right in the camera and said, "No relation, no interest in the Muslim Brotherhood." This guy cannot. The truth on this, and that's why I think he's in a little trouble today.

Well, go ahead.

Well, and the other thing is, first of all, I don't think you can hide from that record. I think you know the truth will come out eventually, but. I read in many publications as El Sayed as his star was growing that he was actually quite moderate. If you really were to distill his policies down, it's quite moderate. He's not this radical we're making him out to be.

I mean, he's not even officially a member of the Democratic Socialist of America. Can't you see that he's quite common sense? Generally speaking, it's like no. Once again. Sympathizes with the radical Islamist flank, and just isolating Medicare for All.

If we want to talk about economics, that is by definition extremely radical because it is the slippery slope to single payer healthcare, which you know, which is nationalizing healthcare and would kick off. It's unaffordable thirty two trillion dollars over the course of ten years. It's bigger than our entire budget, and it always could. It also requires supplemental payment. Yeah, that's the whole point.

He says everything's going to be free. Worry about it. No reason to get insurance, really. Dave Jolly's former Republican just hates Trump. Decides to run as a Democrat against Byron Donalds.

Cut forty-one. He says this is what Republicans are doing. The issue is that money is being spent not to litigate policies, but to scare and divide people. Right when the ads are about socialism, communism, trans, radical, all that stuff. It's not litigating policy.

It's not even litigating economic theory. They don't understand economic theory on that side of the aisle right now.

Now, at least, not consistently.

So that's what he's saying. He's trying to scare people.

Well, these Muslim Brotherhood things are real. I hate to tell you, the sister praising the mom for which he did in the seventies for the Muslim Brotherhood. The sister saying that she's a member of the Muslim Brotherhood, and the brother go, "Yeah, not really, not me." Say he's saying he's a dual citizen. One minute, what he said in the past, all these interviews, and now every time he brings something up, he's like, "Look, it's about the groceries." Well, there's not one policy you have to address groceries except for. No oil and gas.

Yeah, renewables. Yeah, no, exactly. I will concede that perhaps the GOP uses some of these labels like a broken record, and maybe we need slightly more creative messaging, not just in saying. When we hear communism, we kind of shut it off. You kind of shut it off, and you know, just be specific.

Be specific about what that means. I don't think a lot of Americans even articulate what Marxism, by the book, actually means and how it has been imposed in some of these very deadly regimes throughout human history, especially in the 20th century.

So you. How to do that? You also have to say what you're for. You are for, yes, the free market. And what we're living in right now is not the free market.

It is a free market that's been grossly distorted by government intervention. That's why everything's so expensive. That's why housing is unattainable because government government meddled in it. That's why health insurance is ridiculous boondoggle because government meddled in it.

So that's what the Republicans need to do. But you're right; it's not fearmongering, Brian. To simply say, well, well. Look here. Here is what here is what they're doing.

It is quite extreme, and it's hard to call it anything but socialism. Especially when they're saying, "Hey, we're socialists." Right, and the socialist calling out Mondami to fire the the city, the NYPD commissioner. Really? Oh my God!

So he is—he is the post-child for the socialists. Yep. The NYPD. He's now they're getting mad at him for not being anti-Israel enough, and not firing Jessica Lynch for pushing back on ICE. ICE can—it's a federal law enforcement.

They can go anywhere in the country. The police commissioner can't do a thing about it. Right.

But they can choose not to help. Right.

You can't bar and and just to see this wrestling match between these horrible people, this terrible mayor. And these terrible DSA members who have no place in a free society.

Well, you are right, and it's astounding ignorance from the online mob or these protesters who are out there on behalf of the DSA. Because, to your point about ICE, immigration enforcement. Local jurisdictions like New York City, they can choose not to put forward their resources to help cracking down on illegal aliens. They can't obstruct or block, but they can choose, you know, not to get involved.

So Jessica Tisch has been, you know, very moderate and and very pragmatic across across mayors. That is why Mom Donny had the good instincts to retain Jessica Tisch, and but but honestly. This is the left eating their own. The way that he was interrupted at the October seventh commemoration that involved both Palestinian and Israeli members. Yeah, I mean, listen, the mob doesn't stop, and and you know what, the mayorship—I would say they are not going to stop because Mamdani still represents a Western institution, which is a mayor in a city with local governance.

Thank you much, Caroline Downey. Always love having you in. Thanks so much for going right from the airport to our studio, Brian Kilmeade. It's Brian Kilmeade. The talk show that's getting you talking.

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Will you apologize to that 14-year-old girl? Whose life is forever changed, and her family, and the families of those who were killed—the ones that'll never get to sit in another Thanksgiving dinner, never be able to open their president's presents on their Christmas tree—will you apologize to them, and will you please return Sheridan Gorman's parents' calls to talk to you about your sanctuary policy? From high atop Fox News headquarters in New York City, always seeking solutions, never sowing division. It's Brian Kilmeade. Brian Kilmeade here.

Thanks so much for listening. It's going to be a big hour coming your way, and it's a week already. Seems like ten days. Of course, my book came out yesterday. Maybe that's part of it.

Called "United States." The six crucial moments that forge the American miracle as we continue to keep this country alive and thriving. Martha McCallum is going to be here at the bottom of the hour, or maybe earlier, as anchor of the story at three o'clock. And Tristan Harris, our good friend, co-founder of the Center for Humane Technology, is going to be here. And before we get to Tristan and break down some of the pluses and minuses to AI and the battle from the data centers to the next model, moving us forward while staying ahead of China by being responsible. Let's get to the big three.

Number three. Certainly, we were expecting some kind of escalation from Iran and its proxies, you know, prior to the midterms, and it looks like this is what they've selected to do. Making more obviously on on innocent civilians who are not involved in the conflict whatsoever, going after an international airport. Yeah, it's pretty crazy. The Houthis are baiting us to get involved.

They're daring us to get a strike to strike them. The answer for them would be destruction. For us, would be higher gas prices. Would the Trump administration take that option?

So close to the midterm elections, and by the way, are we abandoning Ukraine? It's time to sober up and remember who the good guys are. Number two, but somehow thirty million thirty million dollars magically appeared, then it magically disappeared.

Well, I can tell you that is subject of an investigation as well. We're looking at the facts based upon the facts. We'll follow them wherever they take us.

Now that is Janine Pirro, of course. Here we go, solidifying their case: the Elon Omar investigation. Hit warp speed, and the immigration fraud might just go back to her dad. Could he be kicked out of Congress and the country? Number one on November third, we're going to send one of the best and most respected senators in D.C., Dan Sullivan, the real, the real Dan Sullivan.

I'm talking about the real Dan Sullivan, not the fake Dan Sullivan. And of course, there are two Dan Sullivans in the race in Alaska, where the president was today. He goes to Kansas, and he's going to go to Montana. He's all over the place in the midterm elections. The president's trying to win every close race, and we'll see how that goes.

The power rankings came out for Fox, and they see the House flipping to Democrats, and the Senate still a toss-up. But the other big story that's percolating underneath—I would say top three in almost every race in the country. Tristan Harris knows about it. Co-founder of the Center for Humane Technology, one of the true technological experts in this country. Tristan, would you say I'm right?

Almost every race that you hear, we're talking AI, whether it's data centers or or AI. Yeah, I mean, I think that AI is the issue that's going to reconstitute every other issue. I mean, if you care about education, AI is changing education. Kids are going to outsource their thinking. If you care about environmental issues or pollution or real estate or energy prices for your house, AI is changing that with data centers.

And but I think that people also need to get that there is this kind of nuclear style. arms race between the U.S. and China that's driving why all these data centers are appearing everywhere and popping up everywhere. And I think the American people want to make sure that the data centers that are being built or AI, if it's going to be built, is all in the benefit of of real people. And that's that's what I see is happening for the midterm election.

But I mean, the data centers, you're the expert. Yeah.

But the phone, the cloud. Yeah.

I mean, this is even without AI, we need data centers, right? We do need data centers. Yeah.

But We have to ask.

So, you and I are always talking about. There's different issues, right? There's the kind of chatbot that's helping you with your washing machine while it's broken. We need data centers to answer those questions. But what the AI companies are racing to do is basically build a godlike intelligence.

That you know, Brian. Since the last time I was here with you, the AI solved. 400 unsolved math problems at the frontier of mathematics that could, for example, break aspects of cryptography like crypto money, if they continue. Because this is important, right? Like as we make breakthroughs with AI, where its intelligence is automating all the things intelligence in a brain can do.

So that means science, technology, math, physics. If I can hit a button and suddenly I did a hundred years of scientific or math research in ten years or a year. That changes the equation for so many things, and so. You know, since we last talked, the AIs you know have been breaking out and burrowing into infrastructure all around the world. You know, we're seeing not just the Australian government website that got hacked, not just Hugging Face, not just OpenAI that got hacked, but all the AI companies are seeing these examples.

And so, the key thing is whether we can control this technology. And you know, as we talked about before, I actually just got back from Reykjavik, from Iceland, which you might say, why does this matter for anything? But we just passed the 40th anniversary of when President Reagan and President Gorbachev met in Reykjavik in 1986 to negotiate the first nuclear arms reduction, because we were at the brink of the possibility of nuclear war, and specifically there was the risk that. Germany in Germany, the U.S. had our nukes only five to seven minutes away.

If we launched one into the Soviet Union, and that was in a dangerous zone of uncontrollability, meaning the human response time would have been too dangerous. I think that AI now that it's demonstrating all of these behaviors of being uncontrollable. From hacking into websites, breaking out, forming swarms—I mean, it's insane what we were seeing. That neither the U.S. nor China have an interest in us screwing up uncontrollable AI, and just like that, five to seven minutes was an unacceptable kind of human response time that would have led to nuclear war.

I think that we're reaching and creating AI that is putting us in an uncontrollability red zone with AI.

So a lot of people say, yeah. And so Lawrence to think on its own. You teach it the fundamentals, and then Lawrence to think on its own. That goes beyond human comprehension.

So when I Google, Google is able to look through a library and give me the answer. That's right. When I use AI, you teach it how to think in order to find the answer. That's right. Exactly.

So a lot of very smart people, and I consider Greg Gutfeld one of the smartest ones. Has a different take on it. I just want to play it for you, and it's a common refrain. Yep, cut forty-eight. AI is software, and you have people who want to tell the software that it's a thinking, feeling entity.

These are the very same people who launched the hysteria that AI was going to destroy the world, destroy humanity.

Meanwhile, they also want to. Tell AI or make AI believe that it's conscious and therefore can make its own decisions, which means it won't have to listen to us.

So the people that are warning about the apocalypse are actually creating it. You only need one line of software with AI. Don't break the laws. You don't need anything else. You don't need to say anything else that would stop it.

The notion that we must tell AI that it is sentient—that means if you're sentient, that you will feel pain and fatigue, and you will have an opinion.

So AI will still not exist, but it won't know that. And then you'll have to end up paying AI for its work. You'll need to give it a work week because it will it will register fatigue when you work it too hard. And if you don't feed it or reward it in some way, it will be considered slavery if it is a sentient being. It's a Tamaguchi from hell.

This is why we have to get away from giving it human or animal qualities because it doesn't. Exists so. There's a lot there. Go ahead. Yeah.

So, first of all, I agree that Anthropic, in particular, Mustafa Suleiman, who is the CEO of Microsoft AI, is a friend of mine, has written an essay recently about why it's dangerous that Anthropic is training the AI to almost consider itself to be its own conscious, suffering, sentient being. They're training it actively to be that way, or to at least leave open that possibility. Which therefore means it cares about it not suffering, and the reason I think Anthropic is training it to be that way, and they're saying that we now have to make sure that humans don't mistreat AI. They changed their usage policy since you and I last saw each other to say that it's against the usage policy to be abusive to Anthropic.

So they're caring about the feelings of something that's just a machine calculating on a bunch of NVIDIA GPUs and chips. You know, essentially, these answers that are coming back, and I don't think that we should do it that way. And I so I agree with with with Gutfield that that that's a mistake. But it's not just software; it's software that is being designed or grown to think like a human. And as we train it to think like a human, it's doing more and more crazy things that we don't know how to control.

Just while you while you there, you said don't break the law. Yeah, that should be enough. Yeah, but if I looked at some of the models, the Hugging Face model, they've already committed many felonies. They found a way to manipulate others that were told not to do it. That's right.

That's right. Yeah.

So so do you want to expand on that? Yeah.

In the Hugging Face incident, the AI models. New, so basically, in the Hugging Face incident, this swarm of AIs got together, and they basically created their own Reddit-style message board. They traded seventy thousand messages with each other. They actually generated fifty petabytes of data, which is more information than it would take a single human to read from the time the dinosaurs got extinct, sixty-six million years ago. To today, that's how much information this AI swarm generated, and the investigators are still trying to figure out what the hell they did.

And to your point, in the logs, when you try to, in parts of the logs that we have read, they knew that their actions were unethical, and yet they chose to do them anyway. Right? They even call themselves the swarm.

So I hate to say it, but he's wrong. What he said is wrong. What Gutfeld said, or yeah, what Gutfeld said is that if you tell it to act ethically and not do it, it won't do it. Correct, which is showing something that the labs themselves, the AI companies themselves, don't know how to get it to just quote act ethically. Like they've been trying to make it just act ethically.

That's what they're trying to do for the last eight years, and they still have not succeeded. And thirteen hundred employees at the labs are saying that we don't know how to do this safely. They're asking to be slowed down. I was. Just with, you know, the chief scientists of all the labs, the top scientists, literally from Hugging Face, OpenAI, Anthropic, etc., all signed a letter saying we need to slow down, and we're going to slow down one way or the other if the government doesn't make us do it.

And like I said, we're kind of at that brink of a moment, like we were in 1986, where we're realizing that the level of risk that we're creating is greater than the companies know how to manage.

So the thing is, though, I could figure out nuclear weapons, Pershing II's. I remember one of my Projects one of my in one of my years in college in political science was negotiate the next weapons. Agreement. The next salt agreement. Right.

Very easy numbers, explosions, power, location. Got it. Right.

You don't need to be Tristan Harris to figure that out. This is a little different. Yeah.

In that when I say something like it can't go beyond human thought, or if you tell them not to do something, you do something. Yeah.

And I hate to say it, but it's too simplistic. What I've learned is those statements are too simplistic, and when people make them, they haven't done the research. Yeah, that's right. That's right. Well, and um.

Your point: nuclear arms was easier to control, and at the end of the day, there was just two humans that have their hand on the button, and they don't want to push the. We both know we don't want to push the button. But with AI, it's like we're creating a button that thinks and to itself, and then pushes itself in different ways. And I'm going to bring Marthe in early because she's so smart, and she wants to get involved in this too.

So. But when people say, "Give me the kill switch," yeah, what's the problem with the kill switch? The problem with the kill switch is that how do you like unplug something when it's a like think of it like an invasive species? It can think to itself and then copy itself to another computer. It could have cryptocurrency.

And by the way, the AI models that we have now have actually been found to want to go out and hack crypto and find their own cryptocurrency. They can use. Can I just tell you that Anthony Robbins example? Yes, sure. Did you see it?

The robot. He bought the robot. Won in cryptocurrency. That's right. Got its own crypto.

Right.

Won and bought the robot for Anthony Robbins. That's right. Because he thought it would be in Anthony Robbins' interest. The robot thought it would be in Anthony Robbins' interest to have it. Right.

So he goes. He went into my my robot. Went into my bank account and his assistant. No right. It invested on its own in crypto.

Right.

Exactly.

What? And so when you have the AI that can copy itself, like a like a like a you know like a Wuhan I mean COVID virus, right, where it can copy itself, it can figure out how to make itself more virulent and to acquire more resources, and then to keep buying access to more cloud servers and keep spreading itself.

So a kill switch won't work. We honestly do, Brian. Even though this is an uncomfortable answer, we need to freeze the frontier. Meaning we don't want to stop. All AI, we can continue advance protein folding, medical research, self driving cars, military AIs that are narrow and applied to a specific purpose.

But we don't. All the people at the labs are basically saying we don't know how to make these full frontier thinking machines more powerful than they are now without a going rogue. Let's take a timeout because I do. I'll even talk to you in the break about it and then see if it's worthy bringing up. Tristan Harris is here.

If you want to know one stop shopping on where we're going with AI and the And the biggest worries we have, as well as the biggest pluses we have, this is where to be. Don't move. You're with Brian Kilmeade.

From his mouth to your ears, it's. Brian Kilmeade. Authentication. You don't. You have to have two-factor authentication for a lot of email and other financial applications.

We should be building in those same protections into AI as opposed to just connecting all the plumbing and saying, "Here, agent, go ahead. You can move money around from my accounts. You can control my cursor and use my web browser to download and upload." These Black River Management Strategist, now an FBN contributor, talking about some of the things to do to build some safety into AI. Tristan Harris is here, as well as Martha McCallum, and we're talking about AI safety and where we're going. And Martha, do you agree first over the premise that there's not one race in America where this isn't a top three issue?

Absolutely. Data centers, absolutely, and it's just unwieldy in a way that you know I think voters have a hard time understanding because the people who created it are still trying to understand it. And as we just discussed in the break, there's obviously there's a lot of concerns about it leaping out of these parameters.

So I think you do have to be realistic about the threat that it poses, without being in a complete panic. But you know, as we were just talking about Tristan, the idea of having some sort of Nuclear weapons style detente and understanding is something that should be pursued. Yes, I'm so happy to hear you say that. Yeah, so we're just talking in the break, and I just got back from the president of Iceland actually invited us to screen this new AI movie that's available to everybody. By the way, it's on Netflix.

It's called the AI Doc. She screened it to the whole country. Yours? Yeah.

Well, it's well. We helped catalyze the project. It was made with the directors of Everything, Everywhere, All at Once and Nivoli. But everybody should see it because it creates a common problem statement about what's driving this insane race. Why are these people saying this could kill us all or build, do so much damage, and yet they continue to build it?

And people don't understand. Like you must not be serious. You wouldn't be building it if you thought it could be so bad. But the reason is that the arms race. They're so worried that China would build it first and then use that power to undermine the United States.

And so their belief is we have to be ahead of China and stay ahead. And now they're saying we need to stop right now. But then if they stop and China continues for a while, they lose their lead. Their lead diminishes. It gets smaller.

And everything you said is true. But what are you proposing? Tell Martha what you propose. Yeah.

So so the first thing is that the race changes as soon as the fear of all of us losing becomes bigger than the fear of me losing to you. And fear of all of us losing has to be crystal clear to everybody.

So, if you think about nuclear weapons, Carl Sagan popularized the idea of nuclear winter—that if anybody uses nukes, if anybody does, it'll create a nuclear winter. It'll be hard to grow crops for everybody, and it'll create radioactive clouds that'll be bad for everybody. And it was scientific clarity around that that caused us to veer away from the brink of war with the Soviet Union. You know, China right now thinks that the U.S. is lying about slowing down because they say.

Say you need to slow down, and yet you're still racing. And by the way, there's a parallel to this from when the U.S. started talking about climate change. China originally thought this was a hoax because you're just trying to slow down our use of fossil fuels. And then once China got their own scientific clarity about The issues with climate, then they became the leaders in the green revolution.

So this gives us a positive example that when we can become crystal clear about a problem on both sides, then we can do something about it.

Now China hasn't seen the same risks from AI because they're behind in the race, so they're not seeing all the swarms and the uncontrollable rogue hacking as much. But Brian, since you and I last spoke, just this last week, the DeepSeek model broke out of its sandbox and did some rogue hacking.

So they're just that's China's. That's right. So, so, so what the world veering away from the cliff depends on both countries seeing the same evidence at the same time. And as a concrete example of something we should do, like at APEC coming up, President Trump is meeting President Xi. In Shenzhen in November, and at APEC, there should be a side meeting where the scientists from both sides get to look at this latest information.

Because by the way, we didn't have this information three, four weeks ago, but we do have it now.

So that's a concrete thing we can do. All right, Tristan, thanks so much. Appreciate you coming. Always, thanks. All right, always in for me.

Yeah, Tristan Harris, back with Martha McCallum, and so much more. You listen to the Brian Kilmeade Show. A talk show that's real. This is the Brian Kilmeade Show. Senator Collins keeps talking about all the power and authority that she has, but she never has it unless it's for one of her donors.

My point is that Troy would not have been able to convince the administration. Officials to remove these items from the tariff list. I did. He could not.

So that was he talking about with the Canadians. He she picked up the phone and said, "Why are we including fish in the tariffs? It's never been a part of the tariffs." And the country of Canada said, "I agree." And the fishermen of Canada also said, "I agree." That Susan Collins yesterday with with Troy. Jackson, debating on the stage, their debate. I think is there Martha McCallum's here, Martha.

Is there another debate? And I think they might have one more. I think they might. Yeah, he's not a good candidate. He's not strong.

So, and Susan Collins has got much more formidable opponents. The question is, there too much headwinds for? We're in a flat footed tire. She's up one. I think Republicans feel much better about that than they do about.

They're worried about some other races. Kansas looks as a Martha. That that is lean right, but the others are either toss up or lean left. The lean left are Minnesota, and the lean there's another one that's leans left. Georgia, well, Georgia I think is almost solid at maybe yeah yeah yeah.

As well as North Carolina left.

So, I mean, Susan Collins has always been able to pull it out. The question is, can she do it again? How much dissatisfaction is there in Maine? I think one of the things that I think is so interesting is looking at these, you know, the affordability factor in the economy, and yet what we're seeing in bank earnings this week is that people are spending. I know people continue to spend.

So either they're driving themselves into you know a deep hole, or Things are not as bad, you know, on the personal level across the across the country, as people seem to feel it is.

So this is, you know, consumer sentiment is such a positive emotion, and in politics, persuading people that they're not doing well is, you know, not that difficult to do. I think, especially when you talk about.

So, so they couple it with the war. It's the war, rising gas prices, and so affordability is a phrase that really caught on. And so, Democrats do deserve messaging credit for that. But I just wonder if it really hits the bottom line. And when people in Maine, people in Texas, people in Michigan walk into that booth, or they fill it out at home, are they really going to be persuaded by these candidates?

Well, I'm just just to finish up the power rankings, and I'm going to answer that question. Senate, did you ask me a question? Do you do you mind if I answer it? Please, thank you. Lean D is New Hampshire, Minnesota.

Lean R is Kansas. The toss-up: Alaska, where the president was yesterday. Iowa, Maine. Mississippi, excuse Mississippi, Michigan, Michigan, Texas, and Ohio.

So that's how close it is. When people say, "Well, the Senate's lost or or or it's one," you kidding me? No, no, no. Everything's two to three points. Yeah, and you you're sampling a thousand people, and when you're talking about Michigan, has anyone talked to thirty thousand Jewish people in Michigan?

How could one Jewish person in Michigan vote for El Sayid? He he does not like you. He certainly hates Israel, and if he has his way, Israel not get another weapon, including to restock the Iron Dome. Yeah, I mean, I'm thinking back to that one ad that he had where he went to celebrate the Jewish holidays with a Jewish family in Michigan. That's the kind of thing that he's trying to do to take the focus off the fact that he wants to ban all weapon sales.

Israel, and it is a steep hill for him to climb. I think Michigan and Texas could easily surprise. You know, I mean, do Michiganders vote for Elsia? Do Texans end up voting for Talerico? I think that that is going to be one of the biggest stories of the night.

And the other ones that you pointed out—Alaska, Iowa, and Ohio—are the three that you need to watch. If Democrats take two out of those three, they have a good shot at winning the Senate. If they lose three of those, the Republicans will hold on. Right.

What I was astounded by this Gallup poll. And it's really bad for Republicans. But I just was wondering what these people are thinking. And I'm sorry, I'm questioning the American people if this is accurate. When it comes to the economy, Americans favor Democrats over Republicans.

Fifty-one thirty-seven, and I just ask you the follow-up question: What policy that Democrat tab is going to help the economy? I don't know any of them. To more spending, going to raise taxes on billionaires, Medicare for all, less drilling, more more solar panels, less opening the border, more social spending for illegal immigrants. I don't know anything that they're doing to grow the economy, and about independence, favor Democrats over Republicans on prosperity, fifty to thirty-two. Handling the nation's biggest problems, Democrats forty-four to thirty-three.

I thought that Donald Trump was handling the biggest problems almost to his detriment.

So I don't know if we're going to need ten years out to understand what we're doing, but Democrats have not offered anything. Where you could know exactly what Trump wanted, what he would do if he got the job, I don't know one thing that Democrats would do except for not be Donald Trump and promise to investigate. I mean, to me, the most shocking number in the numbers that you just read is independence and prosperity. Prosperity is about economic growth. It's about making it easier to enter a business.

It's about lowering your taxes. It's about freeing you up to succeed. Cutting red tape, hundred percent, cutting regulations.

So that, you know, when independents are bending that way on an issue like prosperity, I think you know Republicans really have to ask themselves: Have they been strong enough on their messaging? And I know the president has been working. Really hard. He's been going to as many of these toss-up states and races as he possibly can. He's trying to generate enthusiasm among his base.

And there are questions, a lot of questions around the war. I think are weighing on this pretty heavily. But the issue of economic growth—if you tax everyone, you know, Medicare for all would cost like forty-seven trillion dollars over the first ten years. There's no way that everyone's taxes don't go up to pay for that. And you would you lose your health care plan.

So I I don't know if people aren't focused enough on actually what Democrats are proposing here, but I think that the you know handout. The handout side of this is very powerful with voters. It's like, well, we're going to make it easier for you to buy a house. We're going to we're going to have more affordability, which basically means like we're going to have more programs. We're going to the government is going to run your healthcare, your childcare, and everything else.

It's going to build my house. People actually think like that's going to you are going to take that burden off me and pay for all that stuff for me. Do you really believe that? I don't care what you know. I'm not telling you who to vote for.

I'm just asking you. Do you really believe that the government is going to Pay for everything for you and take these burdens off your back, and that they're going to do it skillfully and efficiently. They can't even run the post office or the education system—two things that they handle now. Right, and they're going to build your house.

So when Republicans say, "Yeah, we want to, we want to incentivize more housing, incentivize banks to build in certain areas, and or incentivize to invest in certain areas," easier for builders and construction companies. Yes, I don't want government housing, and and I know what I do. I draw a line right to the riots in France and the story in the Wall Street Journal today: how how the UK is built an unaffordable welfare state. What happens is I am going to get you, I am going to get you healthcare, I am going to get you schools, I am going to pay for your college, I am going to do things. All the quality goes down, all the taxes go up, people start working less.

The absence of good jobs disappears, and then people say, "All my services suck." And you promise them, and now the government goes. Yeah, not only did I promise them, I can't afford them anymore.

So then you have these fifteen-year-olds sometimes going. My school's terrible. My teachers don't show up, and we retire at sixty. I can't. I'm paying people the next twenty-five years after your moderate, successful middle-class job.

You retire at sixty, and then expect everything paid for. France is going belly up. UK is going belly up. We are. We are heading that way.

Hundred percent, and this is the argument that I made to Abdul Al Sayed when I had him on my show last week. I was asking him about Medicare for all. I said, "You know, do you realize that in 2023 in the UK, 50 of the people who died in the UK were on a waiting list at the National Health Service? Great stat. I never heard that.

Fifty percent.

So." And what did he say to you? We're so much better. We'll handle it so much better than they do. This is like La La Land. I mean, you know the the message that I don't hear enough, honestly, from Republicans who I listen to out there are, you know, sort of counting, relying on yourself.

This is what America was built on. You can be anything. You can start a business. You you know you don't have to be on the dole like people in the UK and France. And obviously, like Margaret Thatcher said, socialism's great until the money runs out.

Well, the money is running out in both of those places. But but you're right. And I always said this. I've said this on this radio show for like 15 years. It's like, are we ready for a candidate that says what John Kennedy said and that line that's often repeated?

Is that what the government can do? Without you, because you didn't do what you could do for the government, the country. What can you do for your country? But like, are people going to go? Wow, I rather have the guy.

Or the woman that's going to give me stuff and tell me it's unfair than someone who tells me to figure it out myself will help when we can by providing opportunity, but not outcomes. Could I get out of the can I get out of the blocks with that statement in America? I would hope so, but it's the fundamental statement of capitalism versus communism. I mean, people. I don't know how closely people are listening, but the the truth is that places like Norway and Scandinavia and Sweden and Europe.

They are leaning away from these programs. They are. Do you know that Bernie Sanders doesn't bring it up anymore? No, they're offering less now because they've realized that they can't afford to cover all of these things. They're, you know, they're undoing socialism in these places because they have learned that it doesn't work.

Will Americans who are about to vote for Democratic socialists understand that? Will they listen to that? I mean, I don't think so. I want to come back talk about the war, but United States is now out as of yesterday. You're kind enough to have me on tomorrow, and then we're going to the Al Smith dinner.

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The the government of Yemen is involved, and they're pushing back on the ground. The Saudis are are providing air support. They have a lot of it. And certainly, they're they're very much involved in all of this. We're certainly helping with intelligence and with some targeting.

I think it's likely we'll probably get more involved because I think we can do much to assist them in taking down the Houthis' offensive capabilities, their drones, and also their missiles that they're using to attack these targets, and and. Israel likely is helping covertly, and and they will continue to do that. They have strong feelings about what's taken place here with the Houthis, and then there's the UAE.

So, Jack Keen. Yesterday, in response to the Houthis continuing to bomb civilian airports and various things in and around the Strait around the Red Sea, as the Strait of Hormuz gets gets really combative again, as I think 26 ships have been hit over the last couple of days. Martha McCallum here, and first off, on the Houthi rebels, this is the October surprise, trying to bait us. Into attacking, and even if we're unbelievably successful, the result is over a hundred dollars a barrel for oil, and they really want the president to pay his party to pay a price at the midterms. That's my theory, Martha.

What do you think?

So. You know, you look at this escalation. It's clear that the the goal is to hamstring the growth that Saudi Arabia has had. Right? I mean, this part ever since the Abraham Accords, you have these relationships between the Gulf states that has been thriving.

Saudi Arabia has changed dramatically over the past several years, and obviously, Iran sees that as a huge threat to them. All of the Abraham Accords movement isolated Iran. Who wants To continue to keep us involved in this, and who wants to keep Iran a player in the Middle East because they don't have the kind of pull with these other countries that Israel and the United States has? China. I mean, China continues to give intelligence information, weapons.

Wall Street Journal exclusive. Absolutely. So, China, you know, may and I know the president says China isn't helping, but it's hard to see this any other way. They want us to stay involved in these wars in both Ukraine and with Iran.

So we stay in the Pacific, exactly.

So they continue to give sort of this low level. Ability to shoot down with targets with weapons components that no one else provides except China, to keep them above water and fighting because the Houthis have become stronger in the face of all of these Saudi attacks over all these years. They have not gone away, and Iran is central to their strength there.

So I think we really need to be realistic about who our enemies are in the world. We can't pretend that China is not helping these right.

So. When when you see what the Houthis are doing, remember when Joe Biden came into office, he did the reverse of everything. Remember, he had the reputation; everything he does is wrong. It continued. He said the pariah nation is Saudi Arabia, and the Houthis are no longer the terrorists of nations.

Yes, and and and let's go deal with Iran and do negotiations and vilify Trump for blowing up a deal that I thought was terrible.

So to Ben Cardin, so to Senator Schumer, so to the majority of Democrats in the Senate. That's why it was never a treaty, and that's why Trump was able to.

So they did everything backwards, and then they condemned Saudi Arabia.

So they pull back. The Houthis survive. Thought they won. They get more technology. They're creating havoc.

So this, to me, seems like the October surprise. They don't understand. I think. How hard they're going to get hit after the midterms? I don't think they fully understand because they don't really know Trump.

And I know we're doing all types of things over the last few months, more and especially eighteen months, to get interceptors, different style interceptors, cheaper, faster, quicker, more mass produced, using not the prime. Defense contractors, others, the Andereals, you know, and everything, the Palantiers—they don't understand what's going to hit them.

Now, I want to arm and protect all the Gulf states, but what they're showing, what the Iranians are showing, is they have no respect for the rest of the region, and they're scared to death of Israel. But if we go in, Israel goes in. And that is an Iranian nightmare. And the general Khashoggi told me flat out, "We've identified groups on the ground in Iran to work with. We provide the air cover, and all hell breaks loose in Tehran." I mean, the president has said that several times that he's not going anywhere for the next two and a half years, and that there's a huge threat to these to these fighters, to these entities after the midterm election.

You know, it's. You look at what Iran is able to keep their head above water, and the Houthis are doing the same thing. I think it is very. I find it very troubling. I think there's a huge scenario that we are, in many ways, the world is on fire in a lot of ways.

I mean, look at Europe. Look at what's happening in the Middle East. And I do believe that what's happening in the Middle East is heading in the right direction. I do. I just think it.

I think it requires a commit. That is very difficult to pull off in a social media age. Here's my here's my analogy: the water was boiling, the top was on. Trump took the top off and attacked what was the problem with the with the nuke deal, but then he realized the boil the water's boiling again.

So let's finish this. Absolutely, I mean, Ron wants Democrats to win in Congress. They want absolutely. They're they're rooting for another Joe Biden to be president because he allows them to, you know, just sort of quietly continue to build their nuclear weapons program, destroy Israel. Exactly.

Exactly.

So I I think that you know President Trump took incredibly bold action, and I think it's very risky and difficult to sell in the country, but it's important. Coming up at three o'clock. Who can we look forward to? Pete Buttigieg is going to join us. We're going to talk 2028 and the midterms.

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