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I got. Big events coming up in New Jersey on Friday night, Red Bank, New Jersey, and on Saturday I'm going to be in on Long Island in Westbury, Long Island, the Westbury Music Fair, bringing all history to life in a very unique show. Been working on all summer, streamed on Fox Nation this hour. Julian Epstein's going to be joining us too, and standing by is Todd Lyons. But before we get to that, a quick announcement here in New York again, the disses keep on coming.
We got a mayor here who refuses to march in the Columbus Day parade. Why?
Well, maybe five years ago, there's video of him giving the finger to the Columbus statue because I guess he doesn't like Christopher Columbus. But that's a insult to Italians. Why he can't understand that? Very similar to won't be in the Israeli Day parade. Doesn't show up the installation of the new cardinal in New York City.
Just a terrible mayor. And that is the story. Also, it looks like Katie Zachary will be taking over as press secretary, and our first press conference will be on Tuesday. Todd Lyons joins us now, the former acting ice director. Todd, welcome.
Hey, Brian. How you doing? Good. Talk to you.
Okay. Let's start in New York City, where we saw what happened. I think it was on Thursday when a when a career criminal from the Dominican Republic, with alleged ties to an international criminal gang, who attacked his neighbors with a machete for the second time. ICE zeroed in on him, and for the first time, he got away. The second time, he tried, and we have not seen the body cam video from the ICE agent.
But they, he was trying to get away with a five year old in the back of his car, his kid. And a shot went through the windshield, hit him in the neck. He survived, but now we have a mayor who thinks the bad guy is ICE. Cut three. We follow the law in New York City, and I know that to the secretary, the law is merely a suggestion when it comes to the actions of these ICE agents.
They are making a mockery of what law and order is supposed to be, and then they want us to try and justify their actions for them. Mockery. He calls him a New Yorker. He was on the phone with President Trump for two hours and Mark Ray Mullen to get him out of custody. Todd, what's going on here?
Yeah, you know, I applaud them for being the taking the higher road and trying to work to come to a solution. But that's ridiculous. You have a mayor that wants to go. Yeah, kind of losing Todd there for a second. Yeah, we're working on his.
As we try to get him into a better location, here is more from the mayor to really aggravate you. All he cares about is getting this guy free. Doesn't care about what a criminal he is here illegally. Cut four. I think the conversation will continue, and I've also made it clear that it is both about Mr.
Brugal and ICE opening fire on the vehicle in which him and his five-year-old child were in, and it's also about ICE operations at large. I've said directly to the president. I've said directly to the secretary. As someone who cares about public safety, who cares about law and order, I am demanding that ICE cease their operations in our city immediately because these operations make. New Yorkers less safe.
They leave New Yorkers in a state of terror, and that is something that should be opposed by all of us. Yeah, that's his name, Oscar Begal Todd. Yeah, it's just it's a shame, Brian. I mean. He's condemning law enforcement officers when you have someone that's a known gang member, right?
That has horrible criminal record that's already been released by the NYPD. He should be applauding law enforcement for taking this individual off the street, but he's not. Instead, he's turning law enforcement to the bad guy like he is again. And here you have a governor too that wants to go ahead and negotiate the release of a criminal. You know, it's insane.
I just. The people of New York, the state of State of New York, really need to like take a hard look of who they elected, and who's really looking out for the best interests of those those people in New York.
So he's got a criminal conviction for grand larceny, multiple multiple arrests for assault, robbery, possession of drugs, weapons possession. In 2022, he crossed the border without recognition, without registering. He turns up in New York, and now he's got a mayor. Battling for him. Whose fault is it, Todd Lyons?
That he has a five-year-old in the back of the car. It's his fault, one hundred percent. His fault. He's a criminal. He knows he was wanted.
He'd already escaped from ICE twice, right? They knew he knew they were looking for him. And I'm sorry if you go ahead and place your child in harm's way. And if you're a career criminal, that is on you. Here is the criticism.
They said ICE didn't have anything to say. Law enforcement on them. What are your thoughts on that? You know, I'm I'm really looking forward to Secretary Mueller releasing the body cam footage. I saw the same footage you saw.
There was some issues that I had with it, but again, they're in a you know they're in a neighborhood where they're not wanted. They're trying to stay low vis. They've already had a guy that's run from them. That's a known criminal that's known to have guns.
So I hate to put my mind in the you know the officers you know mindset at the time of the arrest.
Well, we got to go ahead and still look at the whole totality of the situation. And you know, for once, let's let the investigation play out. Let's not jump ahead and just try to focus on ICE is the bad guy, which what everybody does. Let's go ahead. Let FBI let FBI do their investigation.
The secretary, I think, has been transparent so far. They came out right away. They had that press conference. Obviously, even the president took time out of their day. Right?
The ice isn't just the secretary's only mission. He was dealing with a hurricane at the same time. The president's dealing with Iran and dealing with you know an energy negotiation with Russia. He shouldn't be dealing with. Trying to negotiate the release of a criminally legal alien.
So it gets worse. This woman, you're going to get used to. She's she's worse than the squats. She's going to be part of if she goes. She gets into Congress.
The block, Daraliza Avilas Chevalier. Thought it would be a good time to hop on with Hassan Piker. You know that streamer in California that suddenly El Sayed says I don't care about. Listen to this. Cut five.
And the other thing that like really. Angered me was when Police Commissioner Tish came out. Like I understand that it is her role to provide more information, and that is why she comes to these press conferences. But rather than you know condemn ICE, rather than condemn the shooting or the events that had just taken place, she started to villainize Oscar, right? Villainize him and villainize you know by extent, right?
Anyone who was in his position, right? And to me, it just flies in the face of what was supposed to be New York City policy of sanctuary policy, whether that was in spirit or to the letter, right? She is ignoring not just the values of New Yorkers, but the policies themselves that, as the police commissioner, she should be very aware of, right? And f is and abolish it. Yeah, that was f is and abolish it.
So she's just blaming the police commissioner for not defending the criminal. Yeah, that's ridiculous. You know, it's not the commissioner's job to do that. She came out and she gave the facts of the case. The facts of the case is this guy is a gang member.
He's an aggravated felon, and he's a menace to his neighborhood. Again, I just these elected officials that totally come out and take the side of the criminal. It's right. It's bizarre world. We're living in upside down world.
That law enforcement is the bad guy, and the criminal is the good guy. I hear you. Thanks so much, Todd. The last before I let you go, they did a survey, and they said fifty-three percent of the country thinks that President Trump is being too aggressive in picking up illegal immigrants. What do you say to that?
You know, Brian, I think one thing is the American people never seen immigration enforcement like this before, and other administrations have turned a blind eye. President Trump is enforcing the law the way it's written, and you know we have to be a nation of laws. And if you have a final order of deportation and you are ordered by a judge, it's time to go. And I think that some people need to just kind of come to the fact that we have to have laws, we have to have immigration enforcement, and it's up to our elected officials. If if they don't like the way immigration enforcement is done.
They've had the chance to change it multiple months, multiple congressional sessions, but they've never had the fortitude to do it. If they want to change it, now's the time to do it.
So the number is something like forty percent of the people have criminal convictions you're pursuing, but how many people have charges? If you put the charges with the convictions, doesn't the number come up to around seventy percent? It comes up to seventy five, eighty percent, and but people just don't want to see that. They, you know, what what they forget, Brian, is that. Being in the country is illegal already, and but they want these individuals to have their time in court to plead their cases.
But that's not just how it works. You shouldn't be here to commit these crimes in the first place. That's how the Lincoln Riley Act came about. We need to go ahead and enforce all of our laws. I hear you, Todd.
the The wall got stopped. In certain areas of Texas, about a week ago, do you know where that's at right now? The completing of the wall.
So I know they're still, from from what I heard from my friends still at Customs, Border Protection, and Commissioner Scott, they're still working through that. You know, that's one of the president's promises. You know he's dedicated to keeping his pledge to the you know eighty million plus that voted for him. I think you're going to see an increase in the wall. You're going to see that production coming up, and I think you'll see it soon.
All right, Todd Lyons, thanks so much. Yeah.
Meanwhile, this is just in the Feds have raided the home of Elon Omar in Washington D.C. I don't know if it's also happening simultaneously in Minnesota. Early sources say this is not about marrying her, allegedly marrying her brother, and coming here, which is an issue ongoing investigation, as I understand. But the issue is also fraud. And the massive fraud with the Somalis, and we know this just right off the top.
One of the restaurants involved in the massive fraud that took money away from autistic children was a restaurant that hosted multiple fundraisers with Derank links to her and her family. Is it possible? Do you have to suspend logic to think that she didn't know all about it? That's the story we're following. Multiple, multiple levels, multiple balls in the air.
Meanwhile, because help me out right now because of multiple things going on here at Fox News, my responsibilities is going to be Griff Jenkins. I have to run to do something else real quick. You have the great Griff Jenkins who does Fox and Friends Weekend reporting at the border and everything. We'll take over for a short period of time, and I'll be right back. And the bottom of the year, Michael McCosky is going to be with us, President CEO of the Chewish Institute for National Security of America.
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So, you were just hearing Brian talking about the immigration issue and talking with Todd Lyons, the former ICE director. That I spent four years of my life, weeks on end, if not months on end, at the border in places like Texas, in Arizona, in California, where we had a drone live over the border, where thousands upon thousands of illegal immigrants were let into the U.S. And were free to go, military age men. Many of them turned out to be criminals. Turned out to be gang members, like the recent incident here in New York City, where a Trinidadio's illegal criminal alien with a lengthy rap sheet.
Was released, and ICE says that in the stabbing of the NYPD off-duty cop, of two other Dominican legal aliens, just days before, were released so quickly in a sanctuary city that ICE didn't even have time to put a detainer on them. That's how much they're protecting them. Yet here we are. In an election year, when one entire party is literally defending to the teeth illegal criminal aliens, that's why Tom Homan, who was the border czar, on with Sunday briefing yesterday with Jackie Heinrich, talking about what are we doing? What is Mom Donny doing in this city?
Listen to this. Cut six. Go. The bad guy is the one we arrested, but you know the politicians, Mondami and Hoco, want to point their finger at the ICE agent. They want to ignore the fact this man is a public safety threat, and ICE has taken him off the street, which makes New York safer.
Yeah, how is it possible that we don't have wide bipartisan agreement that if you are here illegally? Regardless of what you think about immigration, if you're here illegally, if you broke a law 1325 and 1326, the U.S. code, that you then commit a crime, that you should then be arrested and removed. In the case of the individual, the gang member in New York, he had a lengthy rap sheet for robbery. Assault, dealing drugs, and had a final order of removal.
But yet, some people do not want to remove that person. How do we get here? How are we even having a common sense debate that everyone should agree upon? Simply because one party is making ICE the bad guy a little more of Tom Homan, cut seven. I want the American people to see what the ICE officers saw.
When he when he took whatever action, so I think the the video will be released, and there's a criminal investigation going on. But at some point, it should be available because I don't. I think we need to be transparent. President Trump has promised transparency, and that's what we need to do. We are in an election where we are talking about whether or not we should actually enforce laws that exist on the book.
It's not said enough that. When we talk about what we want to do as a country, who we are, do we open up our borders? Should the entire world have an opportunity to the greatness? And make no mistake, even in the midst of this hyperpartisan debate, America is still the gleaming light of hope of the American dream. That's why they're coming illegally because they can make a better life for themselves in this country.
Because opportunities like the ones in this country don't exist in the countries they come from, but yet they want to abolish ICE. It's one of the leading Democrat socialist agenda items: abolish ICE, along with Medicare for All and abolish the Senate. But yet they want to get rid of ICE. Every male and female law officer. That works for ICE or the Border Patrol are simply carrying out laws that exist on our books.
So lawmakers in Washington should choose to change the law, but they are just. Following the law in this case, in this incident with the one illegal criminal alien member of the Trinitarios gang, which ICE tried to get back in September, they went after him. He fled, and they deemed that situation in real time to be a danger to society, so they pull back. They went back again to get him. He's backed in in a car, which he starts ramming.
The law officers, he puts his own five-year-old child in danger. One more from Tom Homan, cut eight. A father who who knew that child in the car, you know, chose not comply with law enforcement officers and tried to run over and kill an ice officer. I mean, he put that child in that position. Not ice.
It was it was a father, you know, bad bad parental decision there.
So this illegal, criminal, alien gang member puts law enforcement in danger, puts the community in danger, and puts his own five-year-old child in danger. And yet, the conversation led by the mayor, Mom Donny, is that ICE is the bad guy. This guy did nothing wrong. Just give him a cár blanche, release him. Demands Mom Donny, you can't make this up.
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Julian Epstein, Julian, great to to have you here. And I don't know if you remember, you and I were talking when I was filling in for Brian back when we were talking about Abdul Al-Sayyad's race and just you know, in those days we were talking about the crazy things that that he was espousing and standing by. And you said you actually made the announcement that got lots of news that you would be actually supporting Mike. Rogers in that as a Democrat, and look at where we are now. I mean, he has continued to really not only rise because, to be fair to Abdel Al Sayed, he is a good politician.
He gets politicking; he's smooth, but you know, he will not condemn the the the October seventh. He will not talk about whether Israel or Iran is a greater threat to the. U.S. I just wonder, like, as someone in your shoes, where how do you feel about this now? Where do you see this heading?
Is Abdul Sayed actually going to win? I don't think so. I think I still think Rogers is going to win. And and first of all, Griff, thanks for having me back. I think I I still think I still think Rogers is going to win.
I think that Sayed support is very soft, particularly. In places, I spent a lot of time, which was Detroit. As you remember, I used to be chief counsel for the dean of the congressional delegation in Michigan, and and I think Sayed's support is very soft in Detroit. I think there is, you know, I was watching some of the coverage yesterday, and sort of a lot of his supporters are saying, "Oh, this is Islamophobia" and all this kind of stuff, which I think is just Wrong, I think this what this is about for many people, in terms of his views on the Middle East, is that he is in allegiance with Islamic extremism, and I think what is a Nazi movement that has one purpose, which is the extermination of the Jews in Israel, and who's Provenance goes back to the Nazi Germany in the 1930s and 1940s, and I think that's what this is about. And his sort of refusal to condemn or separate himself, and sort of his allegiance, his swimming in the same waters with, I think, Islamic extremists.
It wasn't just the making excuses for the synagogue attack on children. Earlier in the year, you know, his staff has been alleged to have been involved in violent attacks at the University of Michigan on Jewish institutions. As you point out, he can't acknowledge Israel's right to exist. He doesn't think Israel should have the right to self-defense with interceptors for missiles being fired from Iran and and terrorist groups like Hezbollah and Houthis. I think he is of the same strain of thought that the extremists in the Middle East are, and and I think it's very dangerous for the country.
Very dangerous for The Democratic Party, apart from the fact that I think you know, you say he's a good politician. He might be smooth. I mean, his ideas are politically incoherent. He talks about Medicare for all, and then he says, "Well, if you like your private healthcare system, you can keep that." Those two ideas are completely incompatible. He talks about Medicare for all.
His wife doesn't take Medicare patients. Or Medicaid patients, I think, for that matter, as as I understand it, you know, he keeps saying ridiculous things like we shouldn't be funding foreign wars; we should be spending money here in the United States. You know, that's a cheap applause line. The amount of money we're spending on the Iran War, you know, forty billion dollars, is not that it's insignificant. It is a rounding error.
If, as compared to what would happen if Iran, in alliance with China and Russia, were actually able to prevail, acquire a nuclear weapon, acquire ballistic supremacy, reconstitute their terror armies, and colonize the Middle East, this would set back United States interests in both economic and national security in a very, very significant way. And and it would potentially be very very damaging to our standard of living, and the forty billion dollars would look like something pretty insignificant compared to what the consequences would be if we were to allow Iran to continue on with its Nazi-like imperial plans.
So I think his I think the things he says he says don't make a lot of sense. I haven't heard him utter any coherent ideas on housing or on energy policy or anything else. It's just sort of bumper stickers about Israel and Medicare for all.
So while he might be smooth, I don't think he's very deep. And I think Rogers will win. And you know, if I were to make a case, if I were to make a you know. Explain a reason why I think he and the other Democrats are doing so well, and better than I would have expected them to in this election season. Is I think that you know the president is making a lot of unforced errors.
I think he's made a lot of unforced errors in some of his selections of Senate candidates. I don't think he's making the case on the economy as he could be, and I don't think that he is making. The case on Iran as he ought to be making, and so I think the White House is making a fair amount of unforced errors. But I still think these races are a lot closer than the pundit class is recognizing.
So we'll see. Yeah, you are right. I mean, look, we keep seeing polls in previous elections, and then the what turns out is that the polls were quite wrong. I think for our viewers. In listeners that are listening now, particularly younger ones, and I'm talking to the to the listeners out there that are 30 and under, that that they fully process and grasp the fact that you and I, Julian, met in the 90s, some 30 years ago, and when we were talking about the politics of the day that day, it was vicious and it was bloodthirsty, and it was like if you vote for this candidate or that.
Canada, the sky is going to fall because that's what politics are. But but you so eloquently laid out really what's at stake now. It's different now. It matters now. And El Sayed's position.
When it comes to anti-Semitism, is very clear, and we just had here in New York City on the third anniversary of October seventh, you had protesters, anti-Israel protesters, out here with signs and flags saying that they support Hamas. And how we got here is beyond me. But we're here now, and you're pointing out. That literally, in the case of El Sayed, that that is front and center, and and I guess that I apologize. That's a long winded way of saying we really can't overstate the significant of how high the stakes are.
No, we can't. And you're right. I mean, we we point out every time we come on together how long we've been friends. It's been you know thirty plus years. And you go back to the '90s, and I was friends with lots of Republicans, and I still am.
I I would disagree with them on this issue or that issue, but I would think they were great people and they were patriots, and they had all the right motivations. And I and I loved the friendships that I would have with them, and I never sort of would think to impugn their motives for why they had a position on this issue or that issue when we went through impeachment. Of Bill Clinton, I was very close with the chief counsel of on the Republican side, as we were going through a a bitter war between Democrats and Republicans that wasn't personal, at least wasn't for me. But it was, and it was the only thing that people were talking about in 1998. But we remained very good friends across the aisle, and that's changed.
What also has changed in American politics is that. And the Republican Party has pretty much stayed where it was in the 1990s. I would argue it's moved left. Yeah, you know, you could Clinton. You compare Bill Clinton's positions with Donald Trump's positions, and you're going to see an enormous amount of overlap on crime, on immigration, on cutting big government, on welfare reform, on policing on the streets.
You name it. On Iran, on Israel. You name it. What's happened is the Democratic Party has moved further to the left as it's lost the working class because it has become consumed with selling identity politics and a welfare state, and those two things never provide satisfactory results.
So you have to keep ratcheting it up and moving to the left because you have to have something new to sell to voters.
So I think that's what's changed in the last thirty years, and that's very dangerous for a lot of. For for the country, and it's troubling for moderate Democrats like myself, because the party is becoming very very extreme. If you notice, it doesn't sell anything anymore about provide about building or giving individual agency. It's all about we have to increase the welfare state, and you are, you know, if you are. Anybody of color, if you're a woman, you are oppressed, and you have to.
The only way you can break out of this is through identity policies and through the welfare state. And you know, we're talking about Democrats right now who are proposing. Mainstream Democrats who are proposing that you know you have a tax rate of up to seventy percent. You know, Van Hollen is Senator Van Hollen, for example, was talking about moving up the the marginal tax rate for higher income earners to fifty percent. You add state and local, you're going to be at seventy percent.
That means three and a half days out of the week. Yeah, three and a half days out of the week. If you're working a five day week, three and a half days you're working for the government. You're working to pay the government for welfare programs. And for a welfare state that is not producing good outcomes, so you're talking about a party that doubles down on things that are not productive and that are very counterproductive and sort of sometimes anti-American in the case of I think the views on terrorists and extremists in the in the Middle East and elsewhere, and and Increasingly moving that way, and not doing what we ought to be doing, what every generation we've done in every generation, which is building for the future, and that's why so many people like me are really, really.
Dismayed, distraught about where this Democratic Party is, and you know, every time I I go out there and I talk about this stuff, the response I get from Democrats is, "We agree with you. We're just too scared to say it because we don't get voted off the.
So this is a feeling that, this is a feeling that I think is pervasive right now. Yeah, and you know, I'm so glad you went back to the Clinton years and and really the overlap that you would have if you aligned the the Trump policies and the Clinton policies on immigration on crime. On reducing the size of government, it's it's it's so spot on. But but I I can say let's even look at the gulf that is between Obama Barack Obama's policies and where the Democrats are today. It's interesting.
I want to get this in before I run out of time because Abdul Sayed.
So so Obama's going to come in as the closer just days before the election and campaign with El Sayed El Sayed who. Wrote back in 2012 after Obama won his second term that every this is terrible every policy that Obama did in the first term was a failure and he blasted him.
Now apparently all of a sudden they're friends. He was on Meet the Press defending his past criticism that he wrote publicly about about Obama, who's going to try and close for him. Listen to this. I want to get your reaction. Cut fifteen.
I think the person who wrote those op-eds when I was younger—I was younger, right—and I was angry about circumstances. And you know, I think about that. And you read "Dreams for My Father," and I see echoes of of somebody who is frustrated and wants things to be better. And at the same time, you know, I look at how he's led, and I look at you know, for me, what that's 2012 now, so it's it's 2026, 14 years on. You grow up, you know.
You start to appreciate just how hard change is, and how important it is to pick up and push. He makes it sound good, Julie, and he's trying to, you know, move past it. But, but the fact is, it's an indicator that 14 years ago we knew where he was, and there's little doubt that he's still there or farther left than where he was then. Yeah, I mean, look, I don't believe him on any of these makeovers, any of this whitewashing that you get to in the final months of the general election. I mean, he was here's the guy who said during the terrorist attack on a synagogue.
In Michigan, going after 140 Jewish children that hurt people hurt people as a rationalization for the terrorist that attempted that attack. And you hear him now saying, "Oh, well, that was insensitive," and trying to clean that up. He's trying to clean up all of his sort of previous, really left-wing, revolutionary, pro-terror statements that he made. In the primary election and in years before, so I don't believe. I mean, I try to give people grace when they change their mind, and I think we should all try to do that.
But I, I sort of don't believe it. I think he's. I think this guy's a very superficial guy. I think he's opportunistic. I think his ideas.
On both foreign policy and domestic affairs are incoherent, and I think he's a very dangerous guy for the Democratic Party and for the country.
So I don't, you know, I don't give him the grace that I would normally give people because I just don't believe the guy, and I think he's given us enough examples of how opportunistically he changes his tune when it comes to the general election because he's going after swing voters in the center. I think swing voters in the center are smarter than that. I think Black voters in Michigan are a lot smarter than that. I think he's going to see a huge hammering of Jewish voters and national security-minded voters in Michigan. And I think not only will you see that, I don't think these voters are coming back to the Democratic Party.
I think there's a strong possibility that Federer is going to switch parties. I think it's an issue nobody's talking about. I think the the number is not just four. The number I think is five, for the dem for the Democrats to take over the Senate. I don't think they'll get that, and I think they're going to interpret.
If they do win the House, they're going to interpret that all the wrong ways. They're going to interpret that as a mandate. Yeah.
You know, if you say the election is about affordability, eighty five percent of the Price increases, the inflation that we've seen in the last four years were all brought to you by the Democrats and Joe Biden. Yeah, thanks, and they're going to do. They're going to do all the same things again. They're going to do all the same things on energy, all of the same things on housing, all of the same things on healthcare, and and and they're going to completely misinterpret if they do win this election to go back to the sort of big statism welfare state. But before they do that, Julian, they're going to launch an incredible investigation for impeachment and everything else, and then American people are going to go, "What the heck?
We wanted change. We didn't want investigations." Julian Epstein. I got to leave it there. As always, great to talk to you, my friend. We'll see what Michiganers do.
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Weigh in, because I'm so honored always to have the opportunity to to get behind the microphone, a job that I spent years as a producer producing for Ollie North and even Brian Kilme when he would fill in for Tony Snow and other radio show I did. And you, you know, when you get to my age in the 50s and you get old, you start to really be introspective on the experiences you've had, your lived experience, and one of the Periods of my life that stands out more than any that, as a reporter, once I became a on-air journalist, was the four years that myself and Bill Malusion spent on the border in places. Like Texas and Eagle Pass and Brownsville and Matamoros and the caravans that I covered through Honduras, Nicaragua, even down to the Darien Gap in Colombia and the pipeline that was just a never-ending stream of hundreds of thousands, millions of migrants that were under the Biden administration allowed to cross the border and be released and just walk in unimpeded. And we are at the time. When the video that Bill Malleson and others and I showed were you know military-aged single males coming, and I remember as the immigration the border crisis started to unfold, talking and spending hours upon hours off camera with the border patrol agents.
We were saying it started, if you remember, with families coming because they would, you know, be be kinder and gentler to families, and and families could could have a better shot at at being released or not being turned back. And I remember agent after agent telling me, if we get to the point where we are releasing in mass, single. Military age men. This country is going to become dangerous, and they were right.
Now, fast forward to where we are now, where a illegal, criminal alien, an individual from the Dominican Republic that has a history of being arrested for crimes, assault, robbery, dealing drugs, that. The sanctuary city politicians, in this case, Mayor Zora Momdani, would release them back into the public. It is the greatest danger. To Americans, if you break it down by sector in releasing illegal criminal aliens back to the community, it's immigrant communities themselves that are at the greatest danger. But yet we know that with the mandate that President Trump came in to close the border, which he's done sixteen, seventeen months, not a single release into the country.
The second part of that was to remove the threats that were let in, and now you have this individual that was released time and time again, that was here illegally; should never have been here. And ICE has a job to remove them. We have laws on the book: 18 U.S. Code 1325, 18 U.S. Code 1326.
It is illegal to be here, let alone committing crimes. And yet, here this individual, who ICE had gone after in September, he fled, creating a real-time possible danger to the community at large. They backed off. They pull off. They go back again now in October to get him.
He has a five-year-old child in the car, and yet he puts everyone in danger by ramming ice vehicles. And so ICE has to ultimately do what they did not want to do, which is make an arrest at large. Because had they cooperated with the feds and not been a sanctuary city, they would have turned this individual over in a controlled environment in a jail cell in a courthouse that would not have put anyone in danger. This individual puts his own five-year-old at risk and threatens ICE officers by ramming a car, so they shoot him.
So. Zora Mardani, who is absolutely in favor of protecting illegal criminal aliens, as opposed to the threat that it poses to the larger community, wants to now take this to a national. Dialogue with President Trump with Republicans to talk about how we should just shift our plan, forget changing our laws, just shift our position to protect these individuals. Here's a little bit of Zara Mumtazani talking about that. Cut four.
Listen to this. I think the conversation will continue, and I've also made it clear that it is both about Mr. Bergal and ICE opening fire on the vehicle in which him and his five-year-old child were in. And it's also about ICE operations at large. I've said directly to the president.
I've said directly to the secretary. As someone who cares about public safety, who cares about law and order, I am demanding that ICE cease their operations in our city immediately. Because these operations make New Yorkers less safe. They leave New Yorkers in a state of terror, and that is something that should be opposed by all of us. And someone who understands New York politics better than anyone, and has written for years about what's happening here, is Michael Goodwin.
Michael, thank you for joining us. I set that up because I think that our audience needs to understand really. What's at stake here, and what Mondani is doing in his leadership of this great city, and he's talking about this leaves New Yorkers having ICE enforcing laws, removing criminal illegal aliens who are a threat to the community. He says it leaves New Yorkers in a state of terror. What say you, Michael?
Thank you, Chris. Look at. It's a good what you laid out there is a very good example of how reality has been flipped on its head when it comes to the border and when it comes to public safety. That you know, even when there were problems with the border going back to the Bush administration, there was an agreement that you know we're not we're not going to tolerate. Lawbreakers.
Forget the border itself. George Bush famously said that that family values don't begin at the Rio Grande, meaning that there were families coming from Mexico who were in some ways deserving of our help. But here we are now talking about whether capturing criminal, illegal immigrants is Bad or good? I mean, it's it's almost something you you couldn't dream up that there would be any serious opposition to rounding up a criminal who came into the country illegally, and somehow the left has flipped the script so that ICE that's creating the danger, when in fact the criminal has created has committed crimes. That are a danger.
We don't know. Perhaps his drugs killed some child. Perhaps he was involved in a shootout. But why is he considered a New Yorker to the mayor and to his left-wing rabble? And why why are the innocent people not given more consideration from the Democratic left?
That's what. That's what is mind. Boggling, how far we have come. You're right, Michael. I'm glad you put it that way.
And you're right; it's literally flipping reality on its head. You know, I looked at the numbers from from from CBP, from DHS, and since January of 2025, the state of New York. And largely within New York City proper itself, there have been over fourteen thousand. Thousand fourteen thousand illegal criminal aliens who have had a detainer put on them because the immigration officials ICE has deemed we know this individual was in the country illegally and committed a crime and they asked to have a detainer put on them, meaning they asked the local New York officials to remove them, and when you add up. The rap sheet, the data.
I went even deeper into among over fourteen thousand detainers since January of twenty twenty-five. There are some forty-seven thousand crimes or charges against these individuals.
So, under fifteen thousand. Criminal illegal aliens with almost fifty thousand charges, and yet, Mom Donny is saying, for the nearly fifteen thousand criminal illegal aliens that should never have been here, that have committed nearly fifty thousand crimes, I want to protect them. Here is just one more thing that I think is worth pointing out, Michael, and that is when Mom Donny is absolutely lying—a boldface lie—and I'm being objective as a journalist about this. But he says that they're simply following the law. Listen to this, cut three.
We follow the law in New York City, and I know that to the secretary, the law is merely a suggestion when it comes to the actions of these ICE agents. They are making a mockery of what law and order is supposed to be, and then they want us to try and justify their actions for them. I just find that Michael a startling and troubling statement because he's nothing could be farther from the truth. What do you think?
Well, yes, that's a sanctuary laws where once, let's say, a criminal, an illegal alien, commits a crime, and I then wants the city not to release him because he's now ripe for deportation. By being illegal and by committing a crime, right? And so the city doesn't deny or the state that he committed the crime. The question is, they'll let him out on bail, or they'll say thirty days, and he's got free. At that point, he should be deported.
That's what ICE wants to do. There have been thousands of these cases, something like fourteen thousand. I says fourteen thousand cases in New York City and state where the local officials have denied the request to turn the police hold the person, so ICE can. Get them and deport them. Begin deportation proceedings.
Fourteen thousand. Those are those are people who are now set free to commit crimes again. That ought to be a crime in and of itself. It sure should be. And let's you know widen the aperture, if you will, for the context of this conversation, because I've covered immigration since twenty ten.
I remember the very first time I was reporting on. On immigration was when out in Arizona, then Republican Governor Jan Brewer of Arizona was trying to pass a law called SB ten seventy, which deputized her state law enforcement officials to assist. And the you know numbers then I remember being Michael down in the border and Nogales and Douglas, Arizona, and the Border Patrol agents say we had a group of twelve. Can you believe? Leave it twelve illegally crossed, and two have a a record, and in you know now, obviously the the the rest is history on on how insane the border crisis became under Biden.
But for the purpose of of the larger conversation, I remember when you had Democrats arguing that sanctuary policies at the state and local level, sanctuary jurisdictions, were in. Intended, albeit perhaps in a good way, to literally just try and reduce the the the contrast between the local law enforcement and the immigrant community. Meaning that they didn't want local cops carrying out federal immigration policy because it would break the trust that communities locally have with law enforcement. In the case of immigrant communities, in So you begin to think, okay, that makes sense. You do.
If an immigrant community has someone in the house, it's here illegally, but they have a crime and they call police. They don't want them to not think to call the police in a matter of an emergency. It was well intended, perhaps in theory, but now it's turned into an entire political agenda by people like Mumtazni to let all of. All of the world into America, particularly even defending criminal illegal aliens being let in and turned loose in these communities. How do we get here?
Destructive because they don't have any respect for American values, American traditions, and the border is a very big part of that. They think the border should be open. Yeah.
It's it's it's a remarkable state of affairs that we live in now, and you know there is when it comes to Mom Donnie talking about respecting law, they are not doing that, and it will be interesting. We saw in 2024 the Latino community, many Hispanics crossed over on this very issue for Donald Trump.
Now it's we're seeing signs that the polling is changing on that. We'll see. Where it ends up after the midterm elections, but one thing is for sure: the country, particularly with policies like Mumtaz and the positions he takes, do not make communities safer. Michael Goodwin, as always, my friend, great to talk to you. Thank you for taking time.
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And I couldn't be more proud and honored to be sitting behind the mic because front and center is an issue that I've covered a lot of, which is immigration. And it's not about me; it's just about my experience to give the viewers some some context because you know we see case after case, and now we have this case of a Trinitarios illegal alien from the. Republic with a rap sheet that includes robbery, assault, gun possession, and drug possession. That is being protected by Mayor Zara Momdani and sanctuary city Democrats. And and and it you know because of having covered this quite a bit, it helps to put in perspective.
Remember Lake and Riley, the nursing student at Georgia. That was brutally killed by an illegal alien from Venezuela, who was arrested in New York City, released, and actually given a ticket to Atlanta at the courtesy of the Biden administration and the federal government, and carried out. You wonder how many Lake and Rileys, how many Jocelyn Nungreys, how many Rachel Morins, how many Sheridan Gormans have to die before Democrats say, "Wait a minute, actually, I shouldn't support the the the threat that that these illegal criminal aliens pose to the community at large." But somehow they don't learn it, and you have a woman that is very likely going to win. She won the primary. As a DSA Democratic Socialist candidate that is headed to Congress, she's likely going to win from her district in the U.S.
House of Representatives. Daria Eliza Avila Chevalier, here's what she has to say about all of this and attacking the police commissioner. Actually, I don't. I don't have time for that because I'm about to run out of time. But the point I wanted to make is realize that we are about to.
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So, joining us now, I want to turn to the Warren Run. And the developments, as we watch this, clearly on a political level, it's impacting the midterms. But on a larger level, President Trump making clear that he is has a an end goal in mind that history may yet prove to be a game changer in the Middle East, replacing chaos, violence, and terrorism with commerce. And something that we haven't seen in most of our adult lifetimes. Joining us now is Michael Mokovsky, the CEO and president of the Jewish Institute for National Security of America, Jensa, a great leading Washington-based think tank that understands these things.
And and Michael, you know. I look at what's happening in the case of the Bab al-Mandeb Strait and the Houthis that are ramping up. It is clear the Houthis are ramping up their attacks on Saudi Arabia, killing at least one American in this latest horrific attack. But you know, people need to fully understand, as you well do. That you know the Houthis and what we're talking about now, as President Trump is looking at whether he's going to assist Saudi Arabia in retaliation, the Houthis were created ten years ago, 2015.
I think it goes back to when Iran and the Kuds force really created this proxy to fight not only Saudi Arabia but also Israel, and ultimately by connection the U.S. The same as they did with Hamas, as they. Did with Hezbollah? What would you advise, Michael, the president to do when you consider whether or not he should join Saudi Arabia in retaliation? Hi.
Good morning. Thanks for having me again. If I may, just read some. I think people forget who the Houthis are, and I think it's important just to repeat what their slogan is to give a little context. If if I may, I'll just read.
Sure. God is God is the greatest. Death to America. Death to Israel. Curse upon the Jews.
Victory to Islam.
So it's not exactly a. Disney slogan, but that's that's a Houthi slogan, and these are they're obviously the Shia Muslim fanatics, as you. Point out correctly, they are a proxy of Iran, but they're a little different than, let's say, the Isla proxy in southern Lebanon or in Lebanon, in that the Iranians don't control them as much. They obviously have a great deal of influence on the Houthis, and they supply them with weapons and and so on. But they don't control them as much, and they've been frankly very very challenging for the Saudi.
And Marauders in the United States to really get a handle on. We tried. We had some sustained effort earlier last year, and President Trump then put a plug on it after he didn't see a lot of success after about six weeks.
So, and the Saudis, which we could get into, have made I think a number of mistakes, and they've had a lot of challenges here, obviously. You know, Michael.
So you talk about President Trump, and and here I play for you the most recent sort of comments that he's had to share about whether or not he's going to assist the Saudis. Listen to this: as a shortcut here, I want to play for you. Cut twenty one. Have you decided whether to join the Saudi strikes on the Yemen? We're going to look at it.
How soon? We just found out about the recent attack, so we'll make a decision. We we move very quickly.
So he's going to make a decision, and I think there will be a decision pretty quickly. I mean, one of the things, Michael, that I think is important to point out: can you imagine?
So this latest attack. That killed twelve and injured hundreds, including an American. This was a terrorist attack on a civilian major airport.
So, anywhere in the world, are we allow are we willing to to allow allow that to happen? In this case, King Khalid Airport in Riyadh. Yeah, no, it's it's terrible, and obviously our hearts go out for all the all those innocent civilians in the in the airport that were were killed and injured, and there've been like a few hundred injured, and I think I saw about a dozen killed. Look, I think for President Trump, it's challenging. I I don't.
I suspect he won't do too much right now. He's trying to lower the temperature in the region, certainly before the midterms. And I think that he probably wants to keep his powder dry for what might be a conflict, a resumption of maybe even a brief military action against Iran after the midterms. That he's at least he's warned about.
So I suspect. I mean, you never know that he. You probably want to help the Saudis more in a support role in intelligence and in weapons than than probably direct confrontation. I mean, that's what I assume will be, and I I think it's it's an understandable that would be I think an an understandable approach given again I think what he he might be planning. We don't know, but he's he's he suggested this publicly.
What might happen after the midterms? With the Iranians, and he might just say, "This is a Saudi problem right now," and if I may. You know the Saudis. I think have made a number of mistakes leading up to this. On the one hand, they're an important strategic ally.
The United States. I think it's very important that the Crown Prince be successful. I think it's vital for U.S. national security. But he's alienated or stayed or distanced himself from a few key countries that could have been helpful here.
I mean, he had a very well known fight with the Emiratis, who were actually rather effective, I think, on the ground against the Houthis. And he basically forced their remaining counterterrorism forces on the ground to leave in December.
So that was important. He stayed. He's kept a distance from the Israelis, who have shown at times that they could be very effective in hitting the Houthis. And at times in this war, he's been rather cool, you know, to the United States. And perhaps most important, he didn't really prepare militarily for this.
And now we see reporting the Wall Street. Journal, I believe, this morning, he's scrounging around for air defense missiles.
So I think he was unprepared, both militarily and in how he was dealing with other countries that could be very useful to him right now. You know, Michael, that that that's a great thing to point out, and you're right. NBS is now scrounging for more defenses, but you know, with great Institutions like Jensa that that you have that understand these issues, as you were laying out there, I just want to add to the the other part of of that contingent, which is. You know the Houthis exist because a Iranian general named Ahmad Vahidi stood up the Kuds force in the nineties under the previous Ayatollah Khamenei that had the intent purposes of exporting terrorism in places like with the Houthis and Hamas and Hezbollah before them, and so here we are today looking at Saudi. Arabia and whether or not MBS has handled this correctly, but but there is a tie.
Is my point? Does the road still leads back to Iran, and that road has a major goal of not only getting rid of Israel but also death to America. Oh, a hundred percent. And as we we said at the front, you know their slogan, they they hate us, they hate the Jews, they hate Israel. This is a their fanatics, the the Houthis.
And you're right, if you deal with the Iran regime, as you're suggesting, that will severely undercut the Iran the Houthis. And and by the way, I think our blockade of Iran. Which I think Admiral Cooper, our CENTCOM commander, has done a very good job at in recent months. I'd say an excellent job at. I think that's my understanding is that's undercutting the Iranians' ability to support the Houthis.
But I think in a major in a major way. That's important to bring up. Yes, I don't think it has gotten the attention of the other the derivative effects. We focus, understandably, we're denying revenue to Iran, but I think it also deny undermines their ability to help the Houthis. And that's my understanding from speaking to folks in the region about this.
So I think the more we can weaken the regime in Tehran, and I think our objective has to be the collapse of the regime in Tehran, not necessarily the. But we have to undercut them, weaken them, and help facilitate the people in Iran to bring it down. That's going to weaken the Houthis. But I do think another thing we should be doing—I think our top priority, as I assume the president is thinking about—is weakening the regime after the midterms. But then I also think there has to be an international coalition.
I like to see the Saudis reach out to the Israelis. And work with the Israelis, the Emiratis, in the U.S., and really work together. I think to to deal with this Houthi threat, which is not only a threat to the Saudis, of course, it is a threat to the Saudis, but also affects the whole world because of the of the Strait that you mentioned that affecting the international commerce and so on. You know, I'm glad, Michael, that you brought up really the blockade, and I don't think you can overstate. It doesn't get talked about as much, but you can't overstate really the.
The incredible success that that that we are having in strangling Iran's economy. In fact, Brett McGurk was on with Brian Kilmeade on his One Nation Weekend program and talked about not only how successful it's been, but the fact that we need to keep this pressure up. I want you to listen to this. Cut twenty. I think we got to keep the pressure on the Iranians.
I think economic pressure is really critical. That blockade we have in place right now—it's putting unprecedented pressure on Iran. The Iranian system is so revolutionary, so ideological. They are going to—they are going to do all they can to hold on. They'll use ruthless violence against their own people, as we saw earlier this year.
And I think we got to stay patient and stay at it, and try to use the leverage you build—the leverage you build with that blockade. To try to get the best possible deal you can, but let's hope at some point. This regime in Iran comes apart because the Iranian people—they're the most pro-West population I know in the region, probably second to Israel—and that would really change the face of the Middle East in the world. But I think it's a long way until we get to that point. Right, but we got to we got to keep the pressure on.
And he's right, Michael. The question really is, when do we see the fruit of that that pressure? Yeah, look, I agree with what Brad McGurk said, with one exception. I don't think we should try for a deal. I think there's no way that we're going to get a deal with the Iranians that is acceptable for U.S.
interests. We tried that in June with the MOU. I thought it was a big mistake, and I think President Trump was correct a few weeks later after the Iranians violated it from calling it dead.
So I think that to answer your question. About seeing the fruits, I think it's. I think we have to keep strangling their economy, the regime, undercutting the revenue with this blockade. As I've said to Brian before, I think that we could accelerate that process of weakening the regime by, I think, hitting the internal energy facilities like the refineries, the natural gas facilities that feed their electricity generation. I think maybe we could kill more leaders.
Maybe I think we could do this in a very short operation. We're going to have to deal with the nuclear. Dust and some of the facilities, such as Pickaxe Mountain, that President Trump has mentioned. I think we could do this in a shorter operation. I think I don't think all this will bring down the regime, but I think it will accelerate their demise.
And then we just have to keep the pressure on until they weaken. And it will be up to the Iranian people eventually. But we could do other things to help the people, such as arming them more and. I would hope our, you know, our the CIA and so on, and the Mossad are working on such a plan. Yeah, without a doubt.
And you know, look, you know, when Brett McGurk was on with Brian, talking about keeping the pressure on and the unprecedented string economic strangulation, it's such an important point because when you look at guys like Ahmad Vahidi, who is the general in charge of the IRGC, that dates back to the previous Ayatollah's days of setting up the Kudz Force, putting Khati's in power. He's the guy in the driver's chair that isn't negotiating in any way in good faith. And it's reportedly, and I believe to be the case, that the IRGC controls about forty percent of Iran's economy. But on the path we're on now, forty percent of nothing is nothing, and that's where we're going to get. We're not getting there before the midterms, but we are going to get there likely in the remaining two years of President Trump's administration, and perhaps you see that.
That that is when we might actually see the very pro-West minded Iranian people stand up. Yeah, I think exactly. I think the target has to be before President Trump leaves office. We don't know who's going to be president here afterwards. Obviously, we don't even know everyone who's going to be running.
So I think the president has been very steadfast. He won't allow a nuclear weapon. He understands how bad this regime is. The target, I think, for intelligence services and for pressure, has to be by the before he leaves. President Trump leaves office.
In January 2029, I will add though there are costs, of course, to this. But I don't know what more we could do. It the costs are, the Iranians, for instance, are keep executing people, their own people, who peacefully demonstrated earlier this year. I, you know, it's terrible to read about that they keep doing this. I'd like to see the U.S.
and other countries. Raise this issue more about the killing of their people. They're also, you know, planning that looks like terrorist attacks, as we saw at this RAF base, the where U.S. that the U.S. uses in England.
So, and it suggests that there are other terrorist attacks that might be linked to the Iranians.
So there are causes, but our job is to keep the pressure on this regime, undercut their ability to commit terror abroad, and their Ability to stay empowered, Michael Makovsky. Great insight. Thank you for joining us here on the Brian Kilmeade Show. We'll see where it goes. It is going to be something interesting that is going to play out.
Likely, as you point out, after the midterms. Michael, thank you. Appreciate it. Thank you. Have a good day.
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Thanks so much for being here. It's the Brian Kilmeade Show. This hour, I'm going to be joined by Lindy Lee. She's a New York Times best-selling author, the author of Unburdened. It's a reference to unburdened to what has been Kamala Harris's ridiculous mantra.
She was the as she was the Democratic presidential candidate, former Vice President of the United States, and she was a key fundraiser for them. She left, and she said, "This is what's going on, and this is why." Her book is a bestseller because because not just because she has a point of view. Is the way she articulates it, and Joe Lansdale is standing by. He's Palantir co-founder. If you want to, and if you want to know what's going on in AI, you don't have to go anywhere else.
If you want to know the risks, you don't have to go anywhere else. You want to know the pluses, nowhere else. And the competition, what good competition is, you don't have to go anywhere else. We covered a few things. Mayor Mumbani has decided again to decide another ethnicity.
He doesn't. He wants to disrespect. He will not. March in the Columbus Day Parade. Not sure why.
I guess it's not his favorite explorer. Does he know it's about Italian heritage in New York City? Number two, yeah. The it's going to be kind of cool. And Katie Sacra is the new press secretary at the White House, and the president said start tomorrow.
Start today. Brief tomorrow, so she's going to give her first briefing tomorrow. She knows who she's talking about. She's running Truth Social for a while, so she thoroughly gets it. Covering a few things of midterms a few days away, a few weeks away, and then we have what's going on in New York City with the ice shooting and mischaracterizing the father of a five-year-old who was shot, who happens to be a career criminal here illegally.
Yes, an illegal immigrant and a known gang member who was attacked his neighbors with a machete and was trying to. Evade arrest, and according to some reports, was trying to hit ICE agents with his car. We don't seem to be getting that side of that. While ICE agents continue to get a bad rap, and lastly, we're talking about what's happening over in Ukraine, where they're fighting valiantly. Where there's a lot of friction with the president right now because I think making a huge bad decision buying diesel from Russia.
Every dollar they get. Ends up being given to Iran and to their war machine in order to keep us on our heels. Let's bring in Joe Lansdale from Palantir. Hey, Joe. Hey Brian, how you doing?
Great to see you. You got the hottest topic in the country, whether it's the data centers or AI, where the guardrails should be. Very few people can talk intelligently about it. We should be honest about it. Do you worry?
First off, before we get into the the narrow part of it, do you worry about lawmakers who don't use AI trying to put guardrails in judging AI? Because I do. It's a it's a little it's a little bit comical, Brian. I mean, listen, our the reason America is going to win and be the strongest and wealthiest country is because government doesn't screw things up. These guys are not going to be smarter than the Chinese guys running their government, but what they can do is they could be less authoritarian and not break things.
So we got to hope the the frankly dumb people on both sides don't break things.
So what what what what is one area? See, I love the idea theoretically, and tell me if this is possible because you know who you're competing with. You take the top five AI companies, and you provide like an eighteen-month stay on a board overseeing the top AI companies. And is it possible to do that without stealing each other's technology and advances? I would.
If you look at what the Trump administration put in place, I thought it was pretty reasonable, right? They all sign this thing, and they're going to they do their own audit trails. They watch each other's audits, and you basically the only people smart enough in this industry to to hold things you know accountable safely are the people involved, which which is obviously chicken and egg because you can't trust people in charge of an industry not try to lock in their advantages, not try to stop new competitors.
So so so it's it's a tough thing to get right, but obviously they have to be involved. The people running it understanding what's possible. Here in terms of setting the framework, so and by the way, we should probably be making it really transparent. We should be holding them accountable, but we shouldn't be breaking it, right?
So there's there's nuance to this, right? Why I was I was reading the story today about how the Chinese and the U.S. are kind of you're interlocked because a lot of people in America like the cheaper models that China is putting out. And yet, you guys are leading the sophisticated portion of this by about. And I was, God, was in a briefing with another high-level CEO the other day, off the record, that says he believes he's nine to twelve months ahead of China overall.
I don't know where you would you think.
So, yeah, this can you describe how we need each other? I saw in in this industry. Yeah, listen. I think I think we're it's somewhere between six to twelve months ahead. It's it's not it's really hard to know because they're they're going to keep things secret as well.
But there's a lot of companies such as Palantir, such as Cognition, and others that that benefit more from there being what we call a jagged frontier, right?
So if if there's if there's just one company in the U.S. dominating the frontier model company, then they get a lot of power. And and whereas if there's multiple models competing, then then it lets everyone else who's building other parts of the ecosystem. Do better.
So, for example, Nvidia, which is selling chips, they want there to be lots of models, and then they can capture more of the value themselves. And so, this is a funny dynamic where the distillation, right, the copying of the U.S. models by others, is actually very good for everyone except for the top two model companies.
Well, so interesting.
So, Joe, where do you see your focus right now? Because you're also helping out the weapons industry, right?
Well, I run one of the top venture capital firms in defense. I guess we'd call it as one of the areas you call weapons is fair. You know, it's it's the primes right now in the U.S. Brian have fallen way behind, and they're making, for example, Raytheon makes sixty to eighty Tomahawk missiles per year. We have new competitors that are testing things that are just as good, cost a fifth as much.
They're going to make a thousand next year.
So I'm focused on our defense area and and ramping up production. Steronik is delivering hundreds of these autonomous vessels. To that you know, we just built this giant shipyard in Texas last week that we announced with the vice president and the governor visiting.
So we're focused on ramping up in defense. But you know, the bigger theme, even beyond defense, is ramping productivity in the U.S. right now. We are going to make the U.S. a lot wealthier by building on top of AI, and that is what our adversaries are afraid of.
You know, when when you see everyone attacking AI from the far left and the far right, and from on the internet, this has the same thing they did when they attacked fracking, when they attacked nuclear. They are so scared. The U.S. is going to pull way ahead of them, and they're trying to do anything they can to slow us down, and they're trying to trick everyone to be afraid to slow us down. That that's the number one question right now.
So you know what's interesting is the one thing about Elon Musk has come out multiple times over the last five years and said, "AI will make work unnecessary," which kind of really kind of rattles a lot of people's cages. I thought Jeff Bezos had a different different take. I want you to hear this. This is we're going to be at a world of tremendous productivity gains because productivity is driven by invention, and that's what these AI tools are going to allow. Because of the productivity in the economy, many people are going to decide if you have a let's say you have a two earner income household.
One of those people is likely you're not going to need to have a two-earner income household. You know what? I can support my family working three days a week. That's what productivity in the economy means. And so, people, I think you're going to have a labor shortage.
It's going to actually be difficult to hire people because the productivity in the economy is going to make it so that if people don't want to work two jobs, they won't have to. Where do you stand between Elon Musk? There's no need, no one works, and Jeff Bezos. On this particular argument, listen. I'm long SpaceX from Elon against Jeff.
But on this argument, I'm on the Bezos side. By the way, this is the problem I have. All my friends I hired back in the day at Palantir—they're all too rich. They won't work for me anymore. That's going to be the economy you have, where everyone's going to be too rich.
You can't get enough people to work. That's where we are, Brian. Hey, could you could you bring back to mass production on weapons?
So, how close are you to doing this? I kept hearing about this. I know that you do you have you do you have to put out your own. I hear one of the problems is. Is you have to have a company that's willing to maybe put out the money, knowing that politics could change and you might not get paid.
Is that where you're at? Are you worried about the administration changing and deciding that we're not going to be investing in weapons or as much in defense, and you could be left out there with this fantastic? Arsenal, you know, there's always some risk there, Brian. But but I think the defense of the nation and defending it effectively and not wasting money, I think that's a nonpartisan issue. The House and Arms, our House and Arms, Armed Services Committees have a lot of people on both sides who want to have the more efficient solutions when we're already now delivering.
Like I said, like hundreds of these boats, hundred thousands of interceptors, thousands of thousands of other sorts of missiles that are cheaper and better.
So, so this this is all happening right now. Twenty twenty seven is the key year. Everyone's going to realize. Both the left and the right are going to realize we were being ripped off by these primes, and we're going to go with the better solutions.
So, I'm not too worried about the better solutions winning. It's just so obviously the correct answer, as you show them.
So when I when I push when I talk to the CEOs of these executives, they will say to me, "The reason why in World War II they moved out so quick because they." Weren't nearly as sophisticated. That's why you can make all these tanks and all these bombers and all these jets. But there's so much complication. Is that there's not one place where you finish off one product that they have to send it out or import different parts. That's what takes so long.
Is that a valid argument?
So, so Brian, talking to the CEO of a Prime is like is like talking to your accountant about technology. They have no idea what they're doing. These guys are not hired to be engineers. Their their systems, the Primes are built, are purposely cost plus, they're purposely overly complicated. And we have new companies being run by actually top technologists to our whole level above anything the Primes can do, and we're able to do just as good stuff, much cheaper, much faster at scale.
The Primes are dinosaurs, and they they'll make all sorts of excuses. It's a terrible argument, and we're going to crush them. And we're already starting to see it next year. It'll be more obvious to everyone. These guys just shouldn't even be in business anymore for a lot of these areas.
They don't know what they're doing.
So, do you believe that if this Iran war goes on, these what you're making now could play a role in it and perfecting these? One hundred percent, one hundred percent. There's already mass production coming. I mean, listen, it already has played a role. An astronomic rescued, rescued those guys that were shot down on the helicopters.
Every move they attacked the port. They're delivering massive numbers of ships. The interceptors are coming at scale. The missiles are coming at Scale this, you know, Andrel's delivering all sorts of things already right now. Twenty twenty-seven is the year where we just massively outproduce the primes, and we kind of see the emperor has no clothes.
And these guys have a lot of excuses, but they really didn't deserve the giant contracts they had. That's the situation. What did you learn from the war in Ukraine, or what are you learning? I mean, huge amounts. Obviously, Palantir and Andrew and others were were over there right away and helping helping manage a lot of the war effort.
I mean, you're learning how to do cheaper, mass, autonomous systems that coordinate and that figure out. You know, you need you need millions of things and you need to be smart and you need to and you have all new tactics. You know, based on lots of new electronic warfare tactics, all sorts of stuff we're applying.
So, what would right now is that's pretty much why. You believe that Ukraine has done the unthinkable. I mean, this is four and a half years, and they paid a huge price. But they are also pounding Russia, and they're being struck for the first time. It's very, it's very impressive what they were able to do.
But Ukraine reorganized how defense, you know, industrial complex works. They put money towards what's working, away from what's not working. They were forced to, and they and they had to empirically test it. They have all sorts of new groups producing who never would have got a chance normally. Listen, I'm hoping for peace, Brian.
I think it's really sad the war is still going on, but it is so impressive what Ukraine has been able to do, and what we all can learn from them. And the latest challenge, Joe Lansdale, has been this high speed drone that might. Out is too fast for the the drone defense rockets. Correct? Have you guys met, or have they met that challenge yet?
Yeah.
Well, listen. I mean, this is why you also have things like Eparus, which has high power microwave, and it's like a force field in Star Trek. Right? You can turn these things off with the speed of light. You can fry the circuits, and so you need all sorts of different countermeasures.
We're working on mass interceptors, mass high power microwave, and we got to get all these things over there to our allies. And you know, but right now we're not allowed. Deploy some of that in Ukraine is considered too sensitive. That's above my pay grade. I'll just know how to build it, and they'll decide decide what they're allowed to use.
What about lasers? Where do you stand? Lasers are great. The weather is right. I think the Israelis figured out some really, really clever ways to to basically, you know, the way a laser has to work is it bends arbitrarily in the atmosphere, so it's impossible if you just shoot one laser to target properly.
But they figured out how to shoot hundreds at once, and then every, you know, very small fraction of a second, redirect a new laser to the one that's hitting it.
So it's an amazingly complicated thing to get right. Israelis got it right; they're the best in the world at it. We should learn how to do it too.
So, Joe, you know what's so great is at about when George Bush was. Presiding over the Iraq War, Google and some of these other tech firms said we don't really want you to use our technology for war, and they started giving a real pushback, a lot of pushback. Yeah, and you know, and obviously Silicon Valley is known to be extremely left area, and I always thought that's just the way it's going to be, you know. And then this new generation with guys like you, I really see a huge patriotic streak. To use your great success for the defense of the country.
Where did that come from? Like, what generation is that? Like, do you did you what I just said? Does that resonate with you? Is yeah.
Well, listen, it's a small it's a small handful of people. It's us at Palantir, which I'm really proud of, and a lot of my guys at Palantir partner with Palmer Lucky. It's Palmer and Andrel. It's Elon Musk, who's a great patriot, and people don't understand how much SpaceX is critical for our defense. And you know, really, Palantir, SpaceX, Andrel broke through, and then others like Saronic and Epirus and Chaos are now breaking through.
Further through, and so it's a handful of us, and but you know, it's I think it has inspired a generation and tens of thousands of technologists, and we're fixing the primes. There's going to be all the neo primes, and thank goodness, man, because now America's ahead of our adversaries. Again, if we just relied on the old dinosaurs, our adversaries would have crushed us.
So, but you know, America keeps building new things. That's what makes us a great country. But Joe, what do you mean you're fixing the primes? I thought you were going around the primes. We're we're fixing the defense industrial complex.
We're fixing the production. We're going around them. You know, my guess is that ultimately the pieces of the primes will be split off and and run by the neo primes because the people running the neo primes are so much more competent. That's probably the best way to do it. Is eventually when you beat them at a few things, you'll hopefully grab and fix the rest of them because if you can't have the guys in charge there right now running them, they're just going to lose.
So I know that the school thought in the '80s or the '90s was consolidate the defense industry. This way, you're not competing against each other. We get improved. Improvements, and we get the best the best groups together. What we had was a consolidation and a lack of competition.
Which, as usual, because of capitalism and the nature of it, it's it's sent us into somewhat of a malaise. That's right. The lack of competition, Brian, and really, these defense companies became arms of the government. They didn't have to, you know, fight for a living, and their their main skill became trying to block others and capture. Upside from the government, not actually innovating, and so that so now we've broken it again with a lot of new ones.
There, you know, it's going to shift it up a lot. Which thank, thank goodness, you know, you know, we had a Soviet system, effectively shifted it to a Soviet system. Obviously, doesn't work. You need a dynamic American system. That's what we're going back to.
I know the president tried haranguing them into producing more, and it has not worked.
So no, we're just going to do it. We're just going to go around them and do it, and then pull the. Good pieces of them in, hopefully, but no, it's it's actually starting to work right now. You're seeing all sorts of great stuff happening. And the one thing I learned too, Joe, from our conversation, don't let your workers get rich too quick.
You know the other thing, though, is it's really important to me to make everyone I work with us really, really rich. But you know, maybe, maybe if they get too rich in the first few years, then it's not good. But don't worry, there's always going to be new great Americans to work, and it's good to make everyone who works with you really wealthy, Brian. That's the goal, and that's true. But it hasn't really curtailed your drive at all.
Obviously, I'm just kidding. I'm just teasing the guys for early from Palantir. They're doing great, Joe Lansdale. Always great. Thanks, Joe.
Thanks, Ryan. You got it. Hey, when we come back, we open up the phones one eight six six four zero eight seven six six nine. We're also talk about the midterms, a few real compelling races. Don't move.
You listen to the Brian Kilmeade show. It's Brian Kilmeade. He's so busy he'll make your head spin. It's Brian Kilmeade. Hey, we are back, and I'll tell you, there are so many intriguing center races, and it's got Republicans really nervous.
The one that's really up in the air is Kansas. I mean, people are very angry about the the price of diesel fuel there. It's very rural area. Senator Marshall, evidently, not even doing many public events. He's hoping to secure the state and just get by.
I mean, that's a state that Republicans usually win by double digits easily. They're worried about that. But in terms of Texas, I asked Dan. Over the weekend, what's going on there? Why the Senate race is so close?
Is why the governor's race is so close? Why is his race so close? Cut fourteen. Democrats are pouring money into Texas in an unprecedented way. James Talerico will have two hundred and fifty million dollars or more.
Almost all of that coming from California, New York, and blue states. Even the governor's race—you know, Pritzker, the governor of Illinois—just sent a million dollars to Abbott's opponent. Money is coming in from everywhere because the target we're the target, and that's a part of it. You know, when you can put up twenty or thirty. Million dollars of ads on television, as Abbott's opponent has, it can make a difference in tightening the race.
You know this Senate race again between Paxton and Talarico. It will be over four hundred million dollars, so that always tightens things up. But we will prevail in the end, and the people are going to respond. We are not in Texas going to let the socialists take over our state.
Well, that's true, and I know they don't want to. But the biggest gift they had is Talarico went underground for twelve days. Said he had the flu. Really? He doesn't want to get anyone sick.
Okay. Can you do Zoom? Can you do? Can you just make an announcement? People would love that.
Hey, listen. I got the flu. I've never had the flu like this before. But hang in there. Keep voting.
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Welcome back, everybody. You know we've had an interesting show as we we see the Columbus Day Parade coming, starting in New York City. It's the biggest in the country, and it will not have drumroll, please, the mayor of New York City for the first time in my lifetime, unless they've been sick. But this is intentional. Not gonna go.
Why?
I don't know. He doesn't like Columbus. Why do I know that? Because as a New York assemblyman, he was on video intentionally giving the finger to a statue in 2021, and it was the Columbus statue. But you would think now he realizes that it represents the Italian Americans.
He would change his mind. I guess not. With me in studio, talk a little about the midterms and more, as well as her new book, is Lindley. She's New York Times best selling author of Unburden. The for the former Democratic fundraiser turned GOP strategist and fundraiser talks about what it was like behind the scenes in the historic 2024 election as we try to get a handle of the new Democratic Party.
And and I'll tell you, the new Democratic Party, Lindy, that is big tent. What's this Big Ten party now? That has everybody's allowed in, right? Right.
Well, AOC is saying that except Fetterman, maybe.
Well, Fetterman is dear friend of mine. He's an amazing. I've known him for more than a decade, and he's you're truly a stand up guy and very courageous. He's as he always been. He's always.
I think more so now. He now he's like I don't give a. I'm just going to do what I think is right. And I was with him when he was first running for Senate in 2015. I was running for Congress.
I was 24 years old, running for Congress, completely deluded, thinking that I could win this. But the two of us were just like racing across Commonwealth and Pennsylvania. It was amazing, and I got to know his wife too, Giselle. And John truly was just a down, down to earth, down home guy, right? Salt of the earth.
So let's go backtrack. When did you you were Democrat coming out of Princeton? I was a Democrat growing up because back then you were common sense people. Like we had, it was a Clinton Democrats. You cared about fiscal responsibility, welfare reform, don't ask, don't tell.
It was just reasonable. But then after Obama, when I was in college, everything lurch to the left, and it got increasingly untenable. And but that didn't stop you from being with the party. I ran for Congress and I was 24, so I kind of was like hurtling down, and I bought into the hopey changey thing. Unfortunately, like I, a lot of us, lot of us got swept into his hysteria.
I believed it, right?
So you believed it, and the result was Obamacare. We know that, and we know in terms of unifying the president, you can't. No one thinks we came out of those eight years more unified. Do you? In fact, a couple weeks ago, he's like, "Oh, I have no idea why our country is so divided right now." And I'm just like, "Dude, have you looked in the mirror?
You're the reason why." When did you pick up that even though he his approach was so, I mean, he's an eloquent guy, you know, very very likable, charismatic. When did you realize his approach was divisive? Actually, I became quickly disillusioned. Really, like one year in, but I wanted to give him a chance. And the environment that I'm in—I've gotten this question so many times.
The environment that I was in did not permit conservatism. I think it was Jesse Waters. You just said a couple days ago that if you look at the Ivy League campaign donations, it's 95% liberal. You are considering your friend. Not Princeton.
I went to Princeton University, and I think it's upwards of ninety-five percent. I went into the I went into college with slightly conservative. I'm a Christian conservative, and I basically had to unlearn a lot of the things I learned growing up. I my views on marriage they told me were bigoted. My views on Fiscal responsibility.
I was also told we're prejudiced, so I had to unlearn all that. And I was the first woman to be elected class president all four years, so my views actually mattered. I had to reflect the views of the student body, which were overwhelmingly liberal. Right, and then, but you you forged way through it. You became a Democrat.
So obviously, unburdened is a famous line from Yes, exactly. And then the subtitle: "Former Democrats' Insider, Shocking Account of Political Power, Betrayal, and Party Collapse." So when it came to the Bidens, what role did you play in getting him elected? I in 2020 and 2024, and I want to apologize to the American people. There's no excuse. I now, given what we know now, it was a terrible mistake.
But in 2019, I generally thought he was okay. And I thought it was a choice between him and a catastrophe in the form of Bernie Sanders. In fact, I went to war with AOC in this. The tweets that she, the nasty tweet she wrote about me, are still up. She basically insinuated that I was a Nazi because I would rather vote for Trump than vote for Bernie Sanders.
The Chinese Communist Party murdered my great grandfather in cold blood. Anyone who propounds that sort of ideology in our country. Is completely unacceptable to me. Completely unacceptable. And that's what he's done.
But why has it gotten continuing to grow within the Democratic Party? He went from a fringe candidate to mainstream. I mean, he never stopped gaining on Hillary Clinton. And we know what was going on behind the scenes with the DNC chair to make sure that Bernie Sanders didn't beat Hillary, and to make sure Bernie Sanders didn't beat what ended up being Joe Biden. Exactly.
By the way, the DNC pulled the same shenanigan in 2024 by ensuring the coronation of Kamala within 24 hours. It was the same thing, and there was a corrupt bargain that people aren't aware of. Ken Martin, who is now the DNC chair, basically threw support behind Kamala with the secret, the tacit agreement that he would ascend to the DNC chair should she become president.
So there's there are a lot of like underhanded bargains that the American people are not privy to. Right, and a lot of people were disappointed that was not this this quick, hyperactive nominating convention. And from Obama on down, they they do couldn't believe that Joe Biden maneuvered behind the scenes to get Kamala Harris the nomination, and she did too. But you said that Jill Biden did not want Kamala Harris. Absolutely did not.
Absolutely did not. She has hated Kamala Harris with a vengeance ever since I believe it was June twenty eighth, twenty nineteen, or the twenty seventh, twentieth. I was there. I hosted a fundraiser for Biden the day after the debate, and we were all. Like oh my gosh, is this guy like a is he dead on arrival?
Because it was brutal what she did on the debate stage, which is basically insinuate that he was a racist, segregationist, exactly. And so Jill never forgave her for that, but Joe looked more kindly upon Kamla because she was friends with his his son, Bob, son deceased. Yeah, yeah, exactly.
So, so he they got along. Do you think Kamala noticed his decline? For sure, for sure. I have to say, Joe Biden always treated me with tremendous kindness. In fact, he's one of the few people who treated me with unmitigated kindness in the Democratic Party.
When I love someone, I really do. Like I show, I just I'm just a loyal person. I wanted to believe that he was fine in 2022 on. Things really got to be really dicey. I think, from my point of view, and I have a lot of donors who are also doctors.
I think was a combination of Hunter's trial. Things were getting, you know, things were falling apart. It was debilitating. It was really hard on him to watch his one surviving son go through that. And number two, the Afghanistan withdrawal, I think, marked the descent of his presidency.
There's no question. Did he realize that? I think he realized it was a huge screw up. Yes, absolutely. In retrospect, he was the only one making that decision.
They were responding to him. The more you read about it, that was him just saying, "We're getting out. Don't worry about it." Yeah, I think he realized that it was just it was a turning point of his presidency. Forfeited a lot of goodwill, and yeah, I think that actually undermined his health, though. Things really got to be.
You could just notice that things were slower, and that's when the cover up began. And that's what Ashley Biden threatened to sue me over. Fox News actually reported this about a month ago. I showed Fox the tech. She posted a threat on her Instagram saying that she would drag my blank into court, and for what?
For basically saying that there was a concerted effort to conceal her father's decline, and I was one of the first people. I think I was the first person to say and tell the country who the co-presidents were, and that's Anita Dunn, Steve Ruscetti, and Mike Donnellan. These were the most powerful people you've never heard of, right? And they were all you said brought up to testify behind closed doors, either pled the fifth or said something complete useless, and it didn't. We're we're not forthright with Americans, and you also said in retrospect.
The Joe Biden, knowing would you know, and knowing what we all saw, we were reporting it on our channel. We couldn't believe people were pretending he did not know how to leave a stage. He couldn't get a sentence out.
Sometimes he'd go a paragraph nonsensical. He would lose himself. Obviously, things were wrong. Nobody else was reporting it. It was crazy.
We'd have montages going nonstop, but wouldn't get much traction until he was no longer the nominee. Then people started speaking openly, and then Jake Tapper comes out with that book, like, "Oh wow." All along, they've been covering this up. What were your thoughts when that happened?
Well, I'm furious at Jake Tapper because he was the one who was excoriating Laura Trump on CNN for basically pointing out what everyone saw, saying you're not a doctor, exactly, and that was completely disrespectful. And also, he's a liar. I mean, he's shown to be a liar. That's just the truth. But why would a wife?
Want her husband to run again if she sees this rapid decline. We called her Lady McBiden behind the scenes. She wanted the power so badly. I was with them on the night of the debate, June June twenty eighth, twenty twenty four, in the basement of the Ritz Carlton. We had our our seasonal retreat of the National Finance Committee, which are the biggest donors of the party.
She swept into the room. I remember it was pretty. It was a gorgeous lavender suit, and she swept in with her work husband, Anthony Bernal. The two of them basically running the East Wing of the White House, and you could tell that her husband wasn't the candidate. She was the candidate.
She was the one with her face plastered on Vogue twice. She was the one who was hungering for the power. And that night, I was invited to the VIP influencer party. She was the one who first took the stage. It was Biden who came sauntering along, and he went on this tangent about John Wayne.
I still have the footage on my phone. And then he came to me, and I tried to comfort him. You know what he said to me? I actually hosted him on May first, a couple months before. I I felt so bad for him.
I just I was like, because he lost himself on stage, exactly. But he said, and he knows me. He's known you for about a decade. He said, "Tell your husband." I said hi. Brian, I'm not married.
He knows I'm not married. He just completely lost it. I mean, he just made up an imaginary husband, right? And um, that same night, the campaign asked me to put out a video attesting to his mental fitness. I was like, Are you kidding me with this?
I can't. I didn't put out a video, but like the fact that they asked me, and the fact that Jill Biden said is on the record saying I knew he had cancer because he was getting up eight times a night to go to the bathroom. Yeah, absolutely. He's mentally declined, and he has cancer. Let's run again.
And they're still resentful that the party pushed them aside. I don't think he was speaking to Barack Obama, and she was speaking to them, or Nancy Pelosi. They still haven't fully repaired.
Well, the Pelosi just unfollowed me on X, so yeah, they have not gotten over that. They have not.
So, here is the thing. As a as the party, you go. You were inside the party, and you basically saw that they were in a survival mode. They didn't want Trump, obviously, they want any Republican, but especially Trump, to get elected. This is their worst nightmare.
Could you tell me how they view Trump? I have to tell you, I have to give you a different spin on it because you think that they hate Trump. They actually need him. It's like a craving. They're feending after him.
And how do I know that? Because without him, the fundraising is completely non-existent. Completely on Trump is their cash cow. They need him. In fact, no ideas.
Like where's the interesting ideas? Other than to fund the police, which they're not allowed to say anymore. Right.
But they have nothing. They're nothing without this guy. I don't know what they're going to do. In twenty twenty eight, what are they going to do? What are they going to run on?
Because nobody can incite that avalanche of money that they need, as well as Trump. They need to, for example, when I was on, I was the youngest member on the NFC, and I remember hearing. That they were so sure that Trump was going to go to prison, they thought it was either going to be Alvin Bragg or Tish James or the two suits that Jack Smith had going on. They were so sure. In fact, they didn't even.
They said, "Oh, Biden doesn't need to campaign that hard. You know, Trump's going to end up in prison anyway." Well, you use the other thing. After the midterm election, you could argue that's a word the success, relative success, barely lost the house, right? But and because I think was the abortion thing, Roe v. Wade, it rallied Democrats.
So after that, he said, "Maybe America doesn't hate me. I'm sticking around." And then he thought. I'm staying around. If it had been a disaster, a 63 seat disaster, the whole push would have been, "Joe, you're done. America's done with you." But he honestly had a case to say, "If they're done with me, they didn't show me at the midterms." Yes, that's you're totally right.
He learned the wrong lesson from the midterms, and Democrats were provided with a very complicated calculus. It's basically the Omar Little quote from The Wire: "You come at the king, you better not miss." They didn't want to clamor too hard for Joe Biden to get out because what if they failed and they helped Trump with all that rhetoric?
So they were in a rock and hard place essentially with that. And it would ultimately be George Clooney to push him out, exactly. And George Clooney said getting involved was the biggest mistake of his professional.
So where do you think this race is now? In the midterms, yes, midterms. Oh boy, the fact.
Well, the fact that. We're concerned about Iowa. Concerns me. We shouldn't be, and that we're funneling money into Kansas and Nebraska. That's very concerning.
But I am just hoping that Americans will realize that. With Democrats, we have no borders, we have no national sovereignty, and that's one of the reasons why I came to the right because I care about our country as a nation state. And you cannot have tens of millions of people flooding our country; that's absolutely unacceptable. And again, from my background, I come from a communist authoritarian regime. The last thing I want is for our country to go down that same path.
So, yet Schumer, Kim Jeffries, candidates they didn't endorse get the nomination, whether as rah. In Philadelphia, whether it's Al Sayed in Michigan, wow, or whether it's Tony, what's his name, Jackson, over in Maine, so fathered two kids with his second cousin. It happens.
So, having said that, they said Big Ten, we're all out in. How do you feel about that?
Well, that reminds me of AOC saying that woke one was a disaster. Like getting ready for woke two, the Big Ten is just an egregious contraption. I don't want to be a part of it. It actually should give Republicans hope; they could hold on to the Senate. Yeah, because if you see Susan Collins in a dead heat, usually means she's up.
And Rogers seems to be one or two points from El Saeed, and who knows what they're doing. Yeah, I. It's really this is the same guy who El Sayed is the same guy who refused to condemn the Muslim Brotherhood when given a chance yesterday. He wouldn't deny it. And his father-in-law's ties with the Muslim Brotherhood, his sister-in-law is on the terrorist watchlist.
He would be a national security threat in the United States Senate. And by the way, you know that his mom worked for an organization that was helping Bin Laden, right? Besides that, but but somehow pointing out all these facts are is homophobic. Yeah.
Okay. Lindy Lee, Lindy Lie. Thanks so much. Congratulations on unburdened a former Democrat insider's shocking account of political power betrayal and a party collapse. Thanks so much, Lindy.
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