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It's your buddy Craig Cardin. And make sure you check out my appearance on the Brian Kilmeade Radio Show. We talked about the New York Yankee demise, the chance the New York Giants have. To become NFC East champions and everything wrong with Asia Wilson, it was a great experience for me. I'll be an even better experience for you having watched it and listened to it.
That's Craig Carton from Outkick dot com on the Brian Kilmeade Radio Show on Fox News Radio. With me in studio, it's becoming a regular thing, and hopefully it continues for a long time. Craig Carton, host of the Craig Carton Show on Outkick dot com, also you hear him on WF. Which also streams on Sirius. Greg, great to see you.
Yeah, good to see you too. I know you like coming here every Friday. I know you like coming here every Friday, and I always like looking forward, thinking about this show, our our appearance here, and then next week. But I also sometimes think about what happened last week. Yeah, yeah, I know you do.
Can we can we hear this?
Next Friday, when I come in and sit down with you. Yes. When the Giants are two and two, and lost at home. To the Arizona Cardinals, and Jameis Winston throws three interceptions.
Okay, are you going to sit here and say you still believe that the season is going to end well? Yeah.
Well, listen, listen. Can I just be perfect, Brian? But listen, you just, you just, you are so against the Giants, and I'm just. You think I'm a blind Giant fan? I'm really not.
I haven't proven it to you yet. But what happened in that game? Two interceptions. No, I was close. And and the Giants come back, hold on to to win.
Yeah, it's interesting though. The last two games they played, both wins, by the way. The game came down to the final play at your goal line.
So you get the Holland interception two weeks ago. You get the interception by Banks this past Sunday game you were at against the Cardinals. And because of those two plays and the Cam Ward, the worst pass of the year, and then Mike LeFleur, the worst play caller in the NFL, played right into your hands. But look, you never apologize for the games you win because no one goes back, you know, three months from now and goes, "Hey, wait a minute, I know you're in the playoffs, but remember how you got lucky to beat the Titans or the Cardinals." So enjoy the three in one start. It ain't gonna last.
What? Excuse me. I'm sorry. What did you just say? I said enjoy the three in one start.
And then what did you say? Oh, I added it ain't gonna last. I didn't say that. Yeah, I heard that at the end. Because you're not a very good football team.
And by the way, you could beat Washington this Sunday. You know, Jane Daniels is coming back, but who knows with that left elbow of his, how good he is. And Washington's not very good anyway, but. Enjoy it. You might be four and one.
Well, you remember two years ago, Washington was in the playoffs. Yeah, and then Jane Daniels gets hurt, so last year was a wash. They got the same talent, so I mean, they just haven't shown it. They seem to have turnover roster-wise for them. They're it's weird.
They're a weird team. Like they scored thirty points with Marcus Mariota as their quarterback when Daniels got hurt a couple weeks back.
So you don't know what you're going to get.
Now he's hurt. The elbow's dislocated. It's not a throwing elbow, obviously, but I hope you go four and one. Because I think about you all the time too, and I say to myself, when the Giants won, my dear friend Brian Kilmeade's probably very happy right now. And I root for my friend's success.
You do, I do. Since when is this the same Craig Cart? Yeah, I'm one of these guys that wants my friends not to be happy or do well.
Okay, I want you to be happy and content.
Well, the other thing we don't have, just so you know, Craig was on Fox and Friends, and he made Lawrence Jones very happy by predicting it would be a All Texas Super Bowl. I did say that. And last night the Cowboys lose twenty four sixteen. I'm having a bad year. I mean, I mean, at home isn't against the Bucks who are winless.
Yeah, well, listen, and they were favored by like eight and a half points. The Dallas Cowboys were, and they have a really good offense. And what I loved about the game last night is after the game, as Dak Prescott was walking down that long corridor to the locker room, there was an employee at Cowboys Stadium going the other way who says that was. Embarrassing, and Dak stopped. He's like, "Excuse me." He goes, "Embarrassing," and Dak admitted it after the game at a press conference.
So even cowboy employees like the janitor was like, "Yo, that was embarrassing, Dak." And he's right, right. It it is. It wasn't his final interception was not his fault, but no, the tight end Ferguson dropped the ball in his hands as they're going into to score to maybe even tie the game. Yeah, I just want you because Pete cut this. I just want you to experience it once again.
What happened? Pete cut something we don't use. What you don't like, Pete? I love Pete. Do you great guy?
I like the fact you have a policy where your producers get to work from home on Fridays too. That's a that's you're a good boss.
Well, wait a second. I don't. I didn't have that policy. Yeah.
Oh, well, that's what Allison told me. She goes, "Yeah, Brian's the best. I just stay home on Fridays." Right. No, I just send it that Brian's the best. Let's listen.
Cut 48. Winston flushed out. Winston's pass is caught for the touchdown. It. Malachi Fields.
Winston over the middle. He's got. Touchdown, Winston to the end zone. It's caught by Odell Johnson for the touchdown. Giants coming, reception pass intercepted.
Deontay Banks, and he will score. And for a second straight week, it's the Giants' defense.
So, what about the interceptions? Oh, we have time. Pete's fired. Yeah, no, Pete knows. No, so.
Yeah, it's a good moment, and was great. Good, they honored the '86. Yeah, it was great. And by the way, I love those jerseys too. The '86 jerseys are money.
Let's go back. And having all the guys come out there was great. And look, you're three and one. Enjoy because the Eagles, you're all banged up now. Lane Johnson retires.
He has some mental health issues, quite famously now. And they trade Cam Jurgens, another you know piece of their offensive line that dominated. Saquon Barkley's out for a couple weeks with the hamstring. Devontae Smith hasn't played in a couple weeks, so. Right now, today, and I did not expect this to happen, Brian.
The NFC is legitimately up for grabs. You guys have a chance now, even though I don't believe in you to actually win the division. That's on the table.
So I was, I was right in front of JJ McCarthy all day, and I'm just wondering myself: two weeks from now, yeah, if Winston throws that second interception, you know, but they were both bad interceptions, yeah, and they resulted in scores. It's the Jameis Winston experience, they call it. Right.
So you know what a leader he is. He's so respected. He's the greatest guy. If you're a Harbaugh two weeks from now, and the game's on the line, and all of a sudden you find yourself losing 1917, and McCarthy understands the playbook. Yeah, I think it depends if you're winning though or losing.
You know, you know, how secure would you be if you're Winston? I look not very secure, but if they lose, like if they lose to Washington and he has a couple interceptions and doesn't have the three touchdowns like he had last week, I think you get you grow less content with him as your quarterback, and then you get closer to bringing JJ McCarthy in. But you know, the other thing, and you're not alone. A lot of John fans are having that conversation. How many bad weeks of football from Jameis Winston?
Will I tolerate before you go to JJ McCarthy? But you guys also talk about JJ McCarthy like he's a good quarterback. He's not yet. Maybe, by the way, and maybe you are right. Maybe you are right.
Maybe it's Darnold. You look when you look at me. You look at me with such a gloating face. The joy you get, right, when I come in after a giant win, it's tangible, right. You are so happy with yourself, right?
Last year there was four times. I mean, literally. I know. I only won three last year. Yeah, Jed Pen.
Yeah, Jed Pen. I wish I had that look, though. Right.
Well, let's talk about baseball for a second. You know Peter King has his book out. I'm sure you'll interview him. He's got 30 years in sports, and he says they did a Gallup Harris poll, and oh no, it was Gallup poll. What is America's pastime?
By one point, it was baseball. When he started, when and he talks about his first chapter is Boomer Seiss and your former partner, yeah, him getting drafted so disappointed in the second round, thought he was a first round pick, and he ends up being in the perfect situation with Sam Weiss, and you know that better than anybody, but. There was, you know, how Phil Sims was got his tryout with Washington. He had a catch with Joe Gibbs. If you think about how us one sport has evolved, sure, and one has stood pat, I can't believe the difference.
Why do you think that is? Why did America embrace one and leave the other one behind? I think we always embraced football, but don't forget baseball had a fifty-year head start on football in this country. Although there was an NFL in the fifties and there was only four or five six teams, et cetera, I don't think football really was accepted by the country because we romanticized baseball in movies, in books, in poems, in stories, you know, all those types of things, and it was our national pastime. We like violence, though.
We like scoring, we like big hits, and the NFL figured that out kind of in a similar way that the WWE figured that out. I know the two totally different entities, but that's what the male American public likes.
So I would agree that football has surpassed baseball as a national pastime, and I can back that up with ratings and interest and all those other things. Football has gone under drastic changes, where baseball has not. But that's also the beauty of baseball. That's Sixty feet six inches. You know the mound to home plate has not changed.
I think if you went back and redid that poll, and you polled people, let's say sixty and over, I think the answer is probably still baseball. I think under sixty, it's unequivocally football. Yeah, I'm very curious. Obviously, the only hope you have baseball is older players and try to get their kids. And I, when I go to baseball games, I see a lot of kids still.
So I'm very curious to see what's going to happen with it, but I just don't know how without changing the fundamentals of the game. Because you know, as a soccer guy, people are saying not enough scoring, right?
Okay, for the American public, Europe, the red is fine with it. Yeah, that they grew up with that. That's culture. And with baseball, they get nervous if the pitching's too good. You know, it's really interesting about baseball.
Like I grew up on Sandlot, so you grew up, and whatever the sport was, we played it as kids growing up in the '70s on the East Coast, right? African American athletes are not playing baseball as much as their ancestors did. You know, the generation before them, a lot of white kids aren't either. You know, because of video games and the phone and all these other distractions we have. But if you took a look at the the racial makeup.
Of baseball players, there's not a lot of African American baseball players in Major League Baseball. It's a sport dominated really by Latin American players and you know white players. You walk into a Met locker room, eighty percent Spanish first. Yes. It's like prison.
Yeah, it's like we used to cover soccer when he used it. It's like prison where I was. Oh, that's right. How long were you in for? A year.
A year. Uh huh. And it was not not a lot of. I was the minority by a long shot. Did you pick up any Spanish?
Why I can speak Spanish.
So and I and I was taught how to make muffongo in a microwave though, which is what it's uh it's it's one of the great it's a plantain based dish. Awesome, delicious. And I can tell you like I want to write a cookbook if I just go off on a tangent about the things. I learned how to make it a microwave in federal prison because I would put a chocolate cake in front of you that's made with the cookie part of the Oreo and grape soda and mayonnaise, and you would think it came from the best five-star restaurant in New York City. Really?
Yes. There is no nutritional value to anything you just said. When you're in prison, you're not looking for nutritional value, Brian. You're not. No, you're just looking for something that might taste a little bit like home.
Well, when I came back, I made it for my family, and I got kicked out of the house for a couple days. Yeah, I thought so. Few more minutes with Craig Carton, then he's going to do his outkick show. Don't move. Diaz, top spinner, and eats off McPheen, and Yandy Diaz will reach.
That ball was hissing off the turf. Two two. Big bouncer, top spinner. Nice play, Lombard flips it out. Throw to first, not in time, but it goes off the face of the dugout and in the score.
Yandy Diaz, Camidero on the way to second. He's in there. And a called strike three. Did he make contact with the glove? That's what I was.
Is it a catcher's interference? Look at the back of that bat. Oh, yeah, absolutely, clearly. You know, a comedy of errors for the Yankees, who second best record in the American League, and now they're out of the playoffs. Craig Carton, our guest, outkick.
His show on outkick is coming up shortly. Craig, the right team won.
Well, the better team won, right? It's just embarrassing that the Yankees a got swept and b for the fourth consecutive year get eliminated on their home turf. Like that's not Yankee like, right? And now the big question is if there's going to be baseball next year to the New York Yankees. You know, running back again with Brian Cashman as GM and with my buddy Aaron Boone as manager going into his tenth year.
You know, the Yankees have now gone 17 consecutive years without a World Series, and that's the longest drought. In the franchise's history, they never miss almost never miss the playoffs. No, they don't miss the playoffs. I get the sense so that your audience, because you're national. Loves the fact that the New York Yankees like sometimes we're myopic, like we're New Yorkers, Yankees, Yankees, Yankees.
But outside of our little world, people love the fact that Tampa was singing New York, New York at Yankee Stadium. But they hate the Dodgers more, I think, and the Dodgers again.
Well, because the Dodgers represent buying championships to a lot of people. We spend more money. We defer all the payments. We have an all-star every single position. Blah blah blah.
The defer. Most people don't like that. See what I like to? They built up their farm system. They deserve credit.
But with the deferring thing, to me, yeah. But every team can do it, you know.
So I think we're yelling at the Dodgers more so because our owner doesn't do it, right? Like you can defer payments if you want. If you're the Cincinnati Reds, they choose not to. But don't you think it's a lot for a player to say, "Give me minimum wage"? I guess I think Otani is obviously a unique cat because he makes more money off the field than anybody anyway.
So he can defer you know 700 million bucks. He's like a word. You know, he's got like a utility infielder salary. Yeah.
What's going to be interesting there, not to get too in the weeds on it, is when their owner Mark Walters gets indicted by the feds for fraud, which seems like that's going to happen at some point in the next few months. Right, and then what happens with the money he was and the Lakers putting away and the Lakers?
Well, the Lakers too, yeah. But that's why the Lakers got sold. Yeah, he sold the Lakers because he needed cash. Because allegedly, he was moving money around that you're not allowed to move around. But I don't claim to know all the specifics of that one.
That's good because usually you'll make stuff up, right? You don't say. You don't claim. Called being a radio show host. Thank you.
Not well. Not all. Not all of us.
So, Craig. By the way, just a small note. Yes, Tampa Rays might be the best organization in sports. With very little budget, yeah, with almost no budget, was a third of the Yankees' budget. They're always contending, yes, and that is a great team.
Yeah, and Kevin Cash is a great manager, not a good one. People say I look a lot like him. You might want to put up a if Pete's got nothing else to do today.
Well, maybe a split screen on that. I don't. Pete usually, usually, no, no. Pete's got a lot more to do. He does.
Quick thing, we have to talk about WNBA for all the wrong reasons. Asia Wilson, as you know, she tried to go in the stands because someone pointed at her. Yeah.
Scored. Yeah, she's one of the best players in the league. Yeah, Kamala Harris is there to talk about it. At forty six, Asia, it's Kamala calling, my dear. Calling to say congratulations, my soror, the MVP, or should I say, the history making five time MVP.
Please just keep doing what you are doing. You are rewriting the record books with joy, grace. Style and a work ethic that inspires young people everywhere, and we are all so proud of you.
Okay, so she they were in the same sorority, so she was going to congratulate. Oh, is that that? That's what that was. What do you think? Were sorority sisters?
Yeah.
Asia Wilson bothers me. She's a great you know female basketball player. I can't claim to have ever watched her play because I don't watch the WNBA, but she said something at her acceptance speech, which I did pay attention to, and she said that when you know like fifteen. Year old Asia Wilson didn't dream about winning five MVPs. She was trying to figure out how to survive as a African American woman in the United States of America.
I did a little research into that because you know a lot of players have different backgrounds from you and I for sure, and I want to be respectful of that. She's kind of like Clarence from Eight Mile in that she went to a twenty five thousand dollar a year private school. Really? Yes, and. That that resonated with me.
Not that I did, because I didn't. I went to public school growing up. But why are you ashamed of who you are? Right.
Like it's not cool to claim, you know, oh, you know, I grew up in a in poverty or in a bad socioeconomic situation, and survival is a real thing. And there's a lot of athletes that do have that story, and a lot of successful business people who do have that story. Why are you embarrassed about who you really are? And I thought that was just typical of the WNBA. It's all about race.
It's all BS. It's all crap. Race and sexuality.
Sophie Cunningham. Would you say she has to be traded because she's a. Distraction from the fever? No. What I mean, she's beautiful, so maybe she's a distraction to me while watching the game.
But again, there's this weird dichotomy happening right now where they can't enjoy prosperity, and they're creating these ridiculous arguments and confrontations that are pointless. But here's the thing. Yeah, she's a workmanlike player. She's good, not great. That's why when she stood up and took that stand, it took guts.
She's not the star. Can't do that. You can't touch the star. No, she's not the best player on that team. She's the best looking player on that team.
No, but why do you keep bringing that up? Because she knows it. She flaunts it as she should. She know you saying she knows she's attractive. It's like when I got asked to be on the cover of Playgirl.
I get it. Check it out. You know who you are, right? And the answer was no.
Well, because CBS said no. I said, you damn right I'll do it. Just no full frontal. Thanks, Craig. This episode is brought to you by State Farm.
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