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First off, we're following a breaking story that kind of woke up to this morning around 5 a.m. Eastern time, and that is a potential. It looks like a an hijacking attempt of an airliner coming up out of the UAE at Dubai airliner, UA United Arab Emirates airliner. I guess they name it the Fly the Flybo flight. A fly Dubai flight, and it was a passenger jet.

And it looks like one pilot turned on the other pilot, an Omani pilot. That's the earlier reports. Starts stabbing him. The plane goes from thirty three thousand feet to seventeen thousand feet.

Somehow, that door must have been ajar, listened by some passenger reports. Most of it's in Hebrew, so we're dealing with translation. And then there must have been, and we just speculated, them could have been other pilots on the plane that were able them to steady it and. Landed in Saudi Arabia instead of Tel Aviv. We'll follow that story.

Well, let's get to the big three. Number three. I think they're trying to play a waiting game. They, the Iranians.

Well, he's going to get pressure because of the midterm. Boy, they've got him wrong, and I think it's just he's got him really in the right position to, for hopefully, as I said, that this is the first step to closure on Iran. General Keith Kellogg would know. Pressure building on Iran as they they pen a letter to us, the American people, to tell us to vote against Trump Republicans. Really, we'll bring a reality check to the region and question.

The decision today to pull all our troops out of Iraq—not the right time. Number two, what an irony that the Democratic Party that had the policies that led to sky-high inflation that imposed such a burden on the American people is now preaching to the country on how they're going to address affordability. That is Senator Dave McCormick. Midterm fact check. Wall Street Journal breaks down the math on who's responsible for what when it comes to the economy.

And before you vote, I just think you should understand what policies you're in for should the Democrats prevail. Maybe that'll please you, but I do want to inform you because Republicans are not doing a good good job expressing it. Number one, AI. Data, all of this, are founded on theft. We're also seeing a real challenge to whether or not democracy can survive.

If humans lose control over AI, it's game over. All in AI or SI, it doesn't matter. It's an issue America at all levels is talking about. And after the Titans, literally the Titans of the industry, met at the White House yesterday for a lunch, the conclusion is self-policing. And end of the world hysteria is just that hysteria, and that the best way forward is to.

Go forward and not let China catch up. Are you okay with that?

Now, a lot of people that I know are not. I am now. Not that I know the the tech the tech titans so well, or has Bernie Sanders refers to them oligarchs. Why he hates all success? I'm not really sure.

But look, Senator Josh Hawley, big-time conservative Republican, he's going to push for regulation coming out of Congress on AI.

So he's not happy with what came out yesterday. But it's just a fascinating conversation because this is super intelligence. It's such a better way to think about it.

So you can imagine everything that we know—that's Google. But everything that we know with these these agents can actually think—that's super intelligence. You're not looking things up. You give them the tools to move things forward.

So I was in an off-the-record with one of the CEOs last week, and he said there are certain jobs are going to get wiped out. You know, for example, if you're a blacksmith and we have cars, you're not going to do your business. Not going to be as great, all right?

So there are mathematicians were essentially wiped out about a month ago.

So there's really no future, and you can do it faster, quicker, and virtually free with AI. There's going to be certain things that you're not going to need, but there's going to be always be a human element, and there's going to be other opportunities.

So, I'm just going to give you an idea of the really smart people with differing opinions. But President Trump's way of going forward is so easy to figure out. It's the same way he handled the pandemic, like it or not. It's very consistent. You got to move forward.

9 11 happens. Figure out a way. We're going to rebuild. He wants to rebuild the buildings the exact same way and clean it up. Let's move forward.

Help the families and move forward. When he's president of the United States, the pandemic hits. What does he say? I'll get you a vaccine. We'll tell you about the masks.

We'll tell you what you could do about about therapies. But I want to move forward. He never would have shut the country down. He gave him ten days and three weeks, and then he was ready to start everything up. He never would have mandated the vaccine, even though he came up with it with Turbo Speed, you know, with Warp Speed, because that's just not his speed.

Let's move forward. Let's get back to normal. Let's get back in business. We'll figure out a way. We'll deal with when we get there.

But stopping, slowing down, or quitting is not an option. Cut one. Did anything that you heard today? Did anything change your mind? Given the fact that you said you don't want to see guardrails, you don't want to see AI slowed down.

Anything that you heard today change your mind on that?

Well, I think I'm seeing tremendous self-policing, and they understand that they have to self-police. And it's very hard for somebody to come out say, get into these. These models are very complex, and again, I believe they're going to be used for the good. And when they're not, we're going to be able to nab them.

So. What happened is a couple of things we know about. We know about Huggy Face. We also know about the probe into. I guess OpenAI was hired by the Australian government to lean out their Medicare system, their version of Medicare, and it exposed a lot of people's private medical information.

That's a huge problem. But the president says they should be sued, so you could sue them. They are they they're liable for this.

So if the Australian government wants to sue, you should do it, and that's going to hurt the future of that company, right? Same thing. I mean, you have protections with social media, and they still got sued.

So the president's saying essentially, if they act irresponsibly, it'll crash their company. Why do they want to crash their company? More from Trump. Cut to. What do you tell Americans, sir, about data community data centers going up in their communities?

Well, that's another thing we discussed, and I think the companies will be very generous to them, both financially and otherwise. I think they'll help with their schools, they'll help with their teachers, they'll help with pay of the teachers and the people that are good to them. And I see that happening, and I think the companies will be very generous to these communities. And if you look at most, for almost in all cases. The data centers have tremendously the money bring brought in.

Their taxes have gone down. Their incomes have gone up. The value of their housing has gone up. Yeah.

So. The data centers the other hot issue. Although they just see this poll and they say, "What interest? What are you going to vote on? What matters most?" You know, the economy, inflation.

You know what's last in the top ten? Data centers, one percent.

So I'm always open, more than ever. My antenna's up to when I'm being manipulated. Number one by social media, TikTok. I still not convinced China's fingerprints are all over that.

Next, you know, data centers are dangerous, and who knows who's in bed with China who decides to get on camera and tell everyone the world's going to end unless you. Data centers. Whoever has the power is going to win the AI race.

So I want to. Everybody's got to listen to the people. There's parameters there. There's an executive orders there. There's things that can work on legislation there.

But data centers need to be built. You can't have it both ways. They used to be solicited.

Now everyone's putting everything on hold because there's a panic. Just ask yourself, why are you panicking? If U.S. people in Virginia, Northern Virginia especially, their schools are getting flooded with money now. Their roads are getting done.

Their taxes are going down. If utility costs go up, that company, that that that data center and that company that has that data center should be forced to pay. This could be in legislation, and they're all in on it. Mark Zuckerberg on the whole meeting. And the commitments from the titans of this brand new industry.

Cut eleven. I think what we can all agree on is that the American public and our customers want to know that what we're building is working in the way that we all intend.

So we drafted a set of principles and commitments around building robust internal controls and detecting if there are any issues with the technology. I think these are good steps forward. The idea isn't that this is the only thing that we will ever do. It is that this is a start and. An accord that the whole industry could come to.

You know, I wasn't in the room. You weren't in the room. Very few people were in the room. But as Mark Zuckerberg has a model, and he's he's getting these agents into Siri, he's getting these agents. They're moving forward.

Meta's doing great. Is he comfortable talking to OpenAI, Anthropic? And saying, "Look, I just want you to check out my model. I think I'm leading here. I just want to make sure this is safe." Is he comfortable with Meta putting one of their executives in a advisory board on the AI industry that would check?

Without, I mean, this is a public company now, so if you give away your intellectual property, you don't want to be in breach of any contract.

Well, is Anthropic going to look at what Meta's doing? Go okay, it looks safe to me, and then I'm going to go quick. Let's redo our model. Can they get to a point of trust? They're being their multi-billionaire, trillionaires, where they're not going to have a problem with that.

When we come back, I'll get your opinion. I also want to play the Anthropic stereo. Modi was not a Modi was not nearly as positive, which is fine. And I want you to hear from them. Fascinating time.

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AI has incredible benefits. I've talked about the medical benefits of the technology. As the president has said, you know, whoever wins AI wins. I think that's very important. But I think the technology has very real risks, and you know, the mechanism how we address those risks is still under discussion.

But we. We all need to work together to make sure that we can win and we can win safely.

So, so that is the the guy for anthropic. Obviously, he's a Democrat. We know that he had the huge blowout with the Pentagon. I'm not really sure who's to blame there, but evidently they want to be coached and they have to have a certain transparency, and they didn't want to do that.

So, the number one issue is super intelligence. The president's renaming it. I got it. Josh Hawley, a Republican, not for it.

Now, keep in mind too, Bill Gates spent the weekend telling everyone the world's going to end. It doesn't take much research to find out he gave fifty million dollars to Kamala Harris.

Now, it's impossible not to understand that the one thing about our economy is doing well.

Now, inflation's got to come down. I understand that, and prices got to come down as well as oil and gas, and we know the reasons why. But you know, one of the reasons fueling the market, your portfolio, your 401k, are the AI companies.

Now, if you're a Democrat and you really want people to feel like the economy is going the wrong direction right before the November election, how about you tell everybody that these lucrative AI companies, leading the world, transforming society, are going to end the world and need to be stopped? And all of a sudden, the money that's flowing in, they say, "Wait, this might not be a good idea to go to Nvidia. This might not be a good time to invest in Anthropic." And all of a sudden, the market starts going down. Who does that benefit? It benefits the Democrats.

And you know who brought this up? A Axios went over to Europe, and they went over to Europe and they said, "You know what's going on with your companies?" And they wanted to know: Do you feel as though that some of these models are that dangerous? And the founder of this Italian startup, Damien, and others weighed in over and other elsewhere in Brussels, where they went. One of the quotes has really stuck out with me. It said.

This is all about the world-ending existential threat. This is a big lie that is driving an unreasonable conversation, and he accuses frontier AI firms of exaggerating risks to raise their value. Arthur Mench, the CEO of a French AI company, accuses U.S. tech companies of using the safety debate to hide their negligence. Because if you let a model unmonitored go out and Combine with other models and do things they weren't commissioned to do.

You made a faulty model, and then you were not being responsible with the model that you created, the Frankenstein that you assembled.

So, well, we'll be talking about this too, and I just think stopping would be the wrong move. And the president's move is to, even though at eighty years old, he he knows what he doesn't know. I knows that these guys can do things. And the other thing that I think is important is only one president would thought to bring everybody, including people that didn't vote for him, into the Oval Office for a working lunch. Remember.

Elon Musk was not invited to a meeting on the future of the electric car by Joe Biden because he was a MAGA supporter. He was a Republican supporter. Not invited. How do you tell Tesla to stay home if you want to dominate when it comes to electric cars?

So I'll talk about all that too. And and meanwhile. I just want you to hear what Anthony Robbins had to say. I think I might have chucked out my sound sheet. No, here it is.

Anthony Robbins is also one of these guys. He's good at everything: investments, motivation. He has hundreds of businesses, companies. He was one of the first to talk about AI.

Some of his best friends are leading this AI charge. And here's what he said from Washington yesterday. Cut four. Necessity really is the mother of invention, and that's why this is a nonpartisan issue today. People on the right, left, and center agree on one thing: the government's got to do a better job of serving its people.

If you think about it. Dealing with the government in the past has not exactly been a comfortable experience. Remember, we used to get on the phone and we just sit there forever, hoping that someone would answer our call or help on hold, and you probably just hung up. And then they made websites, and they thought, well, that's going to make it more simple. But the government made tens of thousands of websites that you have to somehow navigate through.

But of course, the complexity can end right now, and it's going to.

So what they did is they came up with America.gov. You know, Anthony Robbins had this unbelievable story where he's got this—he's got this agent that is his assistant, and I—I got to figure out how he does this. And I know they're doing it, and I know OpenAI is rolling out a model like this. And the model—and he's this—is on Instagram, so you could hear him saying, "I'll just give you the paraphrase." Says the model wrote him and says, "You know, you some of your peers, your friends have bought robots. Do you want to buy a robot?" And Elon Musk, he mentions Elon Musk, and he said, "No." He writes back his agent, "Go, no, don't buy a robot." Well, two days later, a huge box ends up in his delivered to his office.

His office calls him up and says, "There's a huge box here. It's a robot." He's like, "I can't believe it. The agent ordered a robot. I guess I'm going to get charged for this." So the agent thought it was good for Anthony Robbins, even though he didn't want one to get a robot.

So the agent went ahead and invested in Bitcoin, found money, invested in Bitcoin, took the profits, bought him a robot, and sent it to his office. I know that's crazy. But he's the perfect person to talk about America. dot gov, which is AI, which is entering and making government more efficient. It's going to be one stop shopping.

Everybody's got to get with it, and you're going to see us lean out. This will be Doge on steroids, hopefully in a responsible way. It doesn't cost people jobs. A little bit more organized than we saw Doge before.

So here is the Democrats taking the other point of view, and of course, Ro Khanna. Greg Cesar, who is more to the left and more socialist than even Bernie Sanders, and you'll recognize that first voice. Cut six. AI, data, all of this are founded on theft. They are stealing what is yours: your face, your your behaviors, your privacy.

We need a government agency to oversee it. And make sure that people do not get hurt. We're also seeing a real challenge to whether or not democracy can survive when you have things like deep fakes that are so sophisticated. If humans lose control over AI, it's game over. Thank you, guys.

What's your suggestion? Let's let China win. They'll come up with great models, and we'll live a great life here, like they want us to. AOC also said that ICE is going to arrest all of us. They're coming for all of us, everybody.

ICE is going to arrest everybody.

So only people left in our country will be ICE, and they'll get to hang out together and work full time. You listen to the Brian Kilmeade show. Rich Lowry's next. We're going to talk about the midterms. Wall Street Journal had a fascinating editorial today, using real math and real numbers to talk about what this country will look like if it's Democrat or Republican.

A talk show that's real. This is the Brian Kilmeade Show. What an irony that the Democratic Party, that had the policies that led to sky-high inflation, that had regulations that made it hard to frack and to have energy dominance, that that imposed such a burden on the American people, is now preaching to the country on how they're going to address affordability.

So that is Senator Dana McCormick, and I think they're finally waking up the Republicans and saying, "Look, I know inflation's higher than we thought we wanted. At two percent is at two point eight. I know that affordability hasn't really the prices of groceries haven't gone down, and the the the price of oil and gas is higher than we think." But can we please, for a second, take a deep breath and say, "What's the alternative?" And that's what the Wall Street Journal editorial did today, as they talked about what's happening in blue states and red states. You get a chance to see how it works. Almost nothing is working in these blue cities, and almost everything is working in the red states.

If you look at gasoline prices, if you compare Trump and Trump One, Trump Two, and Biden One and Done, gasoline prices have shot up amid the war in Iran. But the inflation-adjusted averages, three thousand four. Three cents a gallon across the second Trump term, lower than the three eighty nine to Joe Biden's term. There was no war in Joe Biden's term. In fact, this guy just stopped drilling.

The Alaska Arctic Wildlife Refuge was off limits. All of a sudden, all leases stopped. He stopped the offshore drilling in the Gulf of Mexico.

Now, America and the Atlantic coast and pauses leased on federal lands. And guess what? Cut a deal with the devil, stop the XL pipeline too with Medora, while emptying out our strategic coal reserves. Look at utilities on down. If you look at the price of per kilowatt in Massachusetts, thirty cents; New York, twenty nine cents; Rhode Island, twenty eight; New Jersey, twenty five.

Now let's look at Republican cities, states. Florida, fifteen; Nebraska, thirteen; Tennessee, thirteen; Utah, thirteen. It all goes into the national average, but there are different agendas. And I think before you vote, however you're going to vote, you should understand what you're in for. Rich Lowry, editor of National Review, joins us now.

Rich, do you think Republicans have had a good job, done a good job making their case? No, for the most part, they they haven't. But I think you're absolutely right. This is a key tack for them, and the the effort to be to make the other side as unacceptable as possible. And yes, the Iran War has led to increase in gas and diesel prices, but that's not a deliberate policy choice, right?

Republicans don't want to make gas and oil more scarce and more expensive. Address climate change or some climate crisis, which is the Democratic policy.

So I think McCormick is spot on there, and a lot of Republicans around the country could do a lot worse than just repeating exactly what he said. Yeah, I mean, it's just there's not much time—about a month left. There's two things I think could happen that are unscripted: a Canadian trade deal. I think these guys should stop staring each other down and just fix it. It'll affect Ohio, Michigan, Maine, and Minnesota.

And I also think that they find a way. I think they're really going to break Iran's at a breaking point. I believe in many ways. Hence, their four interviews on U.S. network television, and also the fact that they have made two offers now to open up the Strait, and we basically are almost at the levels it was prior to the war.

Right now, I know it's costing us money because we have to escort, but. We're beginning. I think they're beginning to break, and now they're going to be prevented from flying. No more airline use. Yeah.

So the Strait is huge. I mean, just getting it. It's still off pre-war levels, but it's estimates. You know, eighty, eighty-five percent, and it's not going to collapse fuel prices. But it really removes Iran's chief point of leverage, and it's why they can come back to us and say.

Please, sir, we have another MOU or whatever it is, and Trump can say no and and wait out for something, for something better.

So I'm more optimistic about Iran than I have been for months now. I'm not sure it's going to affect the the midterm, and if we got a you know a good deal right now, that would affect the midterms. But I think you're absolutely right on the Canadian trade war. If that goes away, you just need to you know these races are really close.

So if you get something that kind of tilts them back in Republicans' direction right at the end. That could make a big difference. Where are you looking? Because Iowa's up for grabs; it's a toss-up. Yeah, you have Nebraska is too close.

Kansas, one point five on a real clear average for Marshall, but it's hardly secure yet. Texas is about one point in the last poll. Paxton trails by just one to Talarico, and the other one that's real is getting close is Sanu in New Hampshire. And what's going on in Minnesota is stunning. Michelle Tafoya continues to rise one.

Point or in a dead heat. Yeah, that that would be a shocker if she could pull that off. I still look at Maine and Texas because if Collins holds on, then it's almost they got to make all their gains in red states. And then if Paxton can hold on, still kind of think is is going to happen. You know, it's it's basically kind of a jump ball.

But Republicans are going to win up and down the ballot there, and I think it'll be enough to get them over the top. Then you really you got to win a Kansas or Nebraska, which seems that. Heavy lift.

So, if Republicans, I'm pessimistic as you know about the House. If they can hold the Senate and limit their House losses, that's that's a win. Yeah, well, I guess we're going to see what's going to happen.

Now, let's talk about the two issues that are surprising: data centers and going forward with AI slash SI. President came out yesterday. And basically said, I met with the most important people involved in the most important industry in the world, and I'm ready to move forward. And he wants to go forward straight ahead with self-policing and the threat of being exposed to any type of liability should you act irresponsibly.

Now, Josh Hawley is among the Republicans not happy with that. He wants a hearing and possible some type of government regulation. What does Rich Lowry want? I'm with Trump. You know, I think this is like oil and gas.

It's just like a big thing that he has right. His big idea is just absolutely right. Doesn't doesn't mean you know he always expresses it the best way, or you know he knows the details of the policy necessarily. But directionally, he's absolutely correct. This is going to be an enormous benefit to our society.

There are going to be downsides. Like there are downsides to everything. Like the industrial revolution wasn't perfect either. And you try to get these incentivize these companies. To create the correct guardrails, you know, if things are going to go wrong, it's not going to though.

Humanity's can be destroyed on day one. We'll see something bad will happen. You know, the power plants will be shut down somewhere by rogue AI, and then we'll adjust to that.

So, and even if we we we decide oh we want to restrain ourselves, China's not going to do it. And this is a race that's our national strength and power and standing and wealth is caught up in it, and we have to win.

So. Again, I think Trump's 100% right.

So Jensen Wang of Nvidia CEO, he weighed in on this, and as you know, he feels like you do. But he did it with people right next to him that were doubting, like like a Modi of of Anthropic. Here he is, cut. Ten. There's no conflict between innovation, technology, and safety.

We are going to have to create new technologies to advance the capabilities of AI, but we're also creating new technologies to advance the safety of it. All of this technology is being developed by the industry today. And you, you see behind me, just an incredible number of leaders in our industry moving together as one, and we're going to we're going to advance this technology that is so consequential to humanity, is so consequential to the future.

So he says, you know, forge forward, use my chips, forge forward. He also wants to sell his chips to China, which I'm not really for. I know the theory is if they give him the chips, they're not going to engineer their own chips, but I'm not real comfortable with that. Yep. Yeah, same here.

I haven't firmly planted my feet on that one, but it makes me queasy. But he's right on the big point too. If we're going to be protected. By rogue AI, we're going to need AI to do it.

So, just just the idea that we can we can stop, you know, is is I think a fantasy. All right, so I want you to hear the one of the one the president's got a few problems. He's Hispanic vote is not where it was when he left last was on the on the ballot in 2024, and either is another group. Here's Howard Entin, Harry Entin on CNN, cut 31. The target group of voters is white non-college voters.

They were the heartbeat of President Trump's three presidential campaigns, and right now the Heartland is ripping the heart out of Donald Trump's presidency. He's now in the negative with white non-college voters. Look at this; he's down a minus two points. He's in the negative territory with the group of voters that fueled his three presidential bids and allowed him to win a second term in the White House back in. Twenty twenty four, we're talking a drop here with the key core group of Donald Trump's presidential campaigns, of twenty seven points away from the president of the United States.

No wonder he's so low.

So that's an area he's got to you know buck up if the if that is true. Yeah, it's it's prices. It's overwhelmingly affordability, both Hispanics and the white working class voters, and it's got to be repaired. You know, I don't think we're fixing it. Prior to November here, but it needs to be fixed prior to 2028, or it's going to be ugly.

Yeah, I guess. Yeah, I guess going to see what's going to happen.

So the way forward, Iran, you say you're more optimistic than ever. They wrote an open letter. I think it's 25 pages to the American people. Essentially, the theme. Is Trump can't be trusted.

Vote out the Trump Republicans. Yeah, I mean, where do they? I mean, they think they understand our political process. They certainly know the schedule of the election, but they still can't figure Trump out. Clearly, do they think that's going to work?

Yeah, no, it's it's absurd. It's election interference. And look, Trump. I would have thought if you told me this would be the situation, we'd be in late September. I would have thought he would have quit well before.

Now and I do think the MOU is kind of Trump blinking, but after that, you know, that last like a little week, he's kind of been incredibly determined here. I think Republicans are going to there's going to be downside in November, but his view is that this is more consequential than than an election, and it's it's really important to to win this thing.

So all credit to him there, and I I hope we we actually pull it off. And again, I'm more optimistic than I have. Yeah, my last thing, Rich, is we pulled out of Iraq today, and I know we promised to do it, but the militias are still armed in that area. That's exactly what Iran wants us to do. The Kurds now have no air cover, and I guess we lose some value on the ground human intelligence.

I just would say, listen, I know you want to pull out, but now is not the time. When we find out where we're going in Iran, and those militias are the ones that blew up the Saudi pipeline.

So I would not be pulling out right now, would you? Totally agree. And look, it's it's relatively costless, right? There's no longer uncertainty targeting targeting our guys, so I don't see the urgency. To do it, I don't see the imperative to abide by anything Biden agreed to.

So I'm with you. All right, thanks so much, Rich.

So I appreciate you joining us. It's going to be an interesting three weeks, Rich Larry, National Review. We come back. I'll be able to squeeze in some of your calls. One eight six six four zero eight seven six six nine.

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Today, Steps is out that new Rocky book by Harper Collins, and it's just about filling the meaning to Philadelphia Steps, and it's a really great book. You got to go grab it. He said, "Belshy's going to do this show." He just did Fox and Friends, but I know everyone thinks that maybe their parents are great or maybe they're terrible. He's got the worst parents ever, and he said, according to reports, he left a lot out. Parents just didn't want him around, didn't like him.

But instead of being a loser and living up to the hype, man, spent his life in prison. He just spent the rest of his life proving them wrong, and tried to get them to come around. Was willing to forgive him, never worked. But he kept trying. In fact, his dad ended up in some of his movies.

His mom, basically, tried to live off him and sell stories that never happened about Slidah, other horrible magazines.

So I asked him that on the show today, and you know what that role had in your success? Cut forty-nine. You had the worst parents ever, and you tried so hard to reconcile that relationship. Awesome. Put the book down a couple of times because I was so stressed by what you had to go through.

It was it was difficult, but then again, maybe that was the impetus to really go out and try to do something different. You know what I mean? Like you're trying to. I'm not stupid. I'm not a loser.

I'm not you know that kind of fuel. It really motivates you or destroys you. One of the two. Yeah, it motivated him. But you know, so when he establishes himself, he invites his mom to the movie.

You know, to the Oscars. He's he's up for Best Picture, a bunch of different categories, and they win Best Picture, obviously.

So he invites his mom. He's got four tickets. Mom's like, "I want to bring my hairdresser. Can I bring my hairdresser?" He goes, "No, I don't. I'm going to bring my brother.

I'm going to bring my wife, and I'm going to invite you." She's like, "Well, if I can't bring my hairdresser, I don't want to go." And you're not going to win anyway. Can you imagine this?

So, quick thing on the movie. I don't know if you guys watch Rocky. It came out in 1976, but it's such a classic. And to think that he had absolutely nothing, totally unknown, had 104 dollars in the bank, ends up insisting. And it's going to be.

It is a movie now. It's going to be out in three weeks. Insisting on playing Rocky. They said, No, we're going to get. James Con, we're gonna get Bert Reynolds.

We're gonna get Chris Christopherson. We heard that he boxed in in the Marines. He said, "No, I play Rocky." So they offered him all types of money. I mean, not much in our standards, but back then, a lot—maybe five hundred thousand dollars—to just be the writer and not be Rocky. Says, "No, I have to be Rocky." So finally, they gave him a small budget.

They said, "You can be Rocky. You act up at all, where you give us any trouble." We have a morals clause. We have a right to fire you and get our own people. You got it.

So he's being perfect. And then there's this one scene that he wants to get, and the scene you guys are going to remember right before the fight. He comes back, goes to bed, and tells his Adrian, "I can't win, but you might remember it. I can't win, but my goal is to go the distance." And they say, "No, we don't have any time. We can't do that scene.

We've got to cut it. We're going to pull the plug." What are you talking about? The union? We can't afford. I can't pay these guys overtime.

Can't do. He goes. I need this scene. He goes. You're not going to have this scene.

That's it. They get in a screaming match. He says, "Okay." He gets the director to go to bat with the producer, and he said, "You have one take to do this scene." So here's the scene that he said had to be in the movie, and I think I think he's 100 right. Cut 51. It really don't matter if I lose this fight.

It really don't matter if this guy opens my head. It's all I want to do is go the distance. Nobody's ever gone the distance with Creed, and if I can go that distance, seeing that bell rings and I'm still standing, I want to know for the first time in my life, see, that I weren't just another bum from the neighborhood. Right, said that had to go through, and and the reason why is here it is, cut fifty. He told you to pull the plug, not put that in.

You insisted on it. Yeah, because that was the whole thing. You know, everyone's. You can do it. You can do it.

You're an underdog. And he goes to the arena and he looks around. He goes, "What am I? This is such a facade." But right then. And I think a lot of people have this.

You start to make an adjustment. I may not be first, but if I come in third, I get the bronze. But I'm good because I'm never going to get the gold. And when you make that kind of decision, I realize there's been over 600 boxing films since 1919 because they used to use boxing films to get through the code censors with guy in his you know shorts and all that. But no one ever said I am going to lose.

I am definitely going to lose, but the different form of winning, right?

So, you know, Bill Parcells wrote that book, "No Medals for Trying." So, in other words, if you try, you play hard, and you lose the Super Bowl, you still lost the Super Bowl. And he doesn't believe that that means you are a loser. I don't believe it either. And he's trying to say that you're not going to win every time.

So, if Rocky wins that fight, I don't think the movie's a classic. The fact that he didn't win is what made it special, and also set up the. I guess he ended up with six of them in the end.

So it's just a. It's pretty cool book that he wrote, and and all the things behind it. The other thing that found out is he had to rewrite the ending. Hated the ending. Had to make sure it ended as a love story, not a boxing, not a boxing story.

So he loses the fight. How do you do that in the ring? He comes up with an idea. They got one take. They had to go back to the arena.

They had to get everyone back together. They were only get to a handful of people in the audience, and they redo the final scene.

So just to think that it probably would have been a great movie if it ended wrong, but it ended right. Pretty cool. It's one of those books that if you had a chance to get a book and you thought I just got to wait sure I don't waste my time, you will not be disappointed with that. You listen to the Brian Kilmeade show. Don't move.

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So glad you're there. It's the Brian Kilmeade show. Coming here from Midtown Manhattan, but heard around the country, around the world, we're following this attempted hijacking. It seems of this Dubai airline is heading into Tel Aviv from the UAE. It looks like with one pilot stab, the other pilot looked to crash the plane somehow.

We don't know the details yet. That door was open.

Somebody else was able to get in there. The call alert the emergency service. But someone was able to land the plane. Land the plane very skillfully. In Saudi Arabia, so again, details of it.

Bibi Netanyahu said or didn't say, but reportedly, they told him that there's some terror activity about to take place in the next few days. We know what October 7th is; they're looking to replicate that again.

Now, I know that you have to go through all these magnetometers. I know that you got to.

Well, you wonder about the other passenger next to you.

Now you got to wonder about the pilot in front that didn't get proper background checks. I want to get some answers, of course. Caroline Downey is going to be joining us from National Review at the bottom of the hour. Michael Makovsky is standing by, the present CEO of the Jewish Institute for National Security of America. Perfect guest right now.

And by the way, just quick reminder: if you ever missed any of the show or portion of the show, go to youtube.com/slash/atthebriankilmeadeShow. We're always posting there. Let's get to the big three. Number three. I think they're trying to play a waiting game.

They the Iranians.

Well, he's going to get pressure because of the midterm. Boy, they've got him wrong. And I think it's just he's got him really in the right position to, for hopefully, as I said, that this is the first step to closure on Iran. Yep, that is General Keith Kellogg. Pressure building on the Iranians as they they pen a letter to the American people.

Yes, us. They want us to vote out Trump Republicans. Isn't that nice? We bring a reality check to the region and question. In the decision that we're making now to pull all of our troops out of Iraq, really, now is the time.

Number two, what an irony that the Democratic Party that had the policies that led to sky-high inflation that imposed such a burden on the American people is now preaching to the country on how they're going to address affordability. Yup, that is Dave McCormick. Midterm fact check. Wall Street Journal does the math and breaks down the Democratic economy versus the Trump policies and economy. And both sides scramble to make winning moves in the final month.

Number one, AI. Data, all of this, are founded on theft. We're also seeing a real challenge to whether or not democracy can survive. If humans lose control over AI, it's game over. Yes, thank you, Rokana.

A.I.S.I. Whatever you want to call it, it's an issue in America at all levels. We're talking about it, and the titans of industry got to bet. They got together to regulate it voluntarily. I like the fact that the ones creating this are the ones regulating this.

I'm sure they want to make a profit, but I also know they don't want to end the world.

So that's my hope. And the end of the world tasteria really should stop, especially when I think it's going to go away right after election day. Michael Bakovsky joins us now, president CEO of the Jewish Institute. Of course, we woke up this morning to this news about a would-be hijacking of a fly Dubai passenger jet. It was from Dubai over to Israel.

A pilot fight resulted in the plane dropping from. Thirty-three thousand feet to seventeen thousand feet in a matter of seconds. Thankfully, somebody was able to level out that plane and land it successfully. Terror averted. Michael Bockovsky joins us now.

Michael, what are you hearing? Yeah.

First of all, great to see you, Brian. I mean, based on what I'm reading and so on, I think one thing hasn't come out yet, but I saw it somewhere is that the the the terrorist, the guy who took over the plane, seems to have been Omani. I mean, we've seen this, I think, in a few different reports. And why that's important is Israel doesn't have normalization relations with Oman, and apparently, reportedly, the the the deal with FlyDubai. By in Israel is that their pilots must be from countries that have normalization that have normalized ties with Israel.

So if all that is true, that this pilot was Ammani, that was a breach by the Fly Dubai company, right? But just because you're Omani doesn't mean you're necessarily a suicide pilot, right?

So, but then then you have to wonder too if you have normalizations with the UAE, that's great.

So now Israel can go back and forth on vacation there and vice versa. But it's not getting like going on an L jet.

So you not only have to wonder about the pilot, the the passengers.

Now you got to worry about the pilots. Do you? I we can only imagine what took place to allow that plane to land when both pilots are killed. Each other is there another pilot just happens to be, you know, dead-ending it, or what do they call a deadhead when you just fly and you don't have to fly with someone else skillful enough to fix the fix the flight. Yeah, I mean, based on what I've seen, you know, and we're just getting you know scattered reports already.

So it seems like when the attacker attacked the captain in the cockpit, the cockpit door was ajar. You had at least two Israelis in some of the front seats. They rushed the cockpit. They subdued the terrorists, and there were two. They just happened to be, as you said, it seemed like these dead-eyed guys.

Pilots, they weren't Israeli. I think one was apparently South African, and the other, I think, from New Zealand or something. And they were near the back, and they rushed to the front. Eventually, I think one was faster than the other, and then they eventually stabilized and landed the plane. That's what it seems like based on these initial reports.

All right, so that's where we stand. What are we hearing about Iran these days? Because They getting what they wanted on schedule. The U.S. is pulling out of Iraq, while the militias are still armed in Iraq.

The government says we can handle it, but I don't think they can handle it. Didn't we go through this movie before in two thousand eight? We did, and I think it's a mistake to leave Kurdistan for two reasons. One, as you point out, I mean, I I don't like that our forces have been attacked in that country, of course. But I do think there are two things.

One is the Iran issue, which I like to get to, and then two is, you know, we kind of abandoned the Kurds in Syria, and I think the Kurds in the region, besides the Israelis, are natural allies, and we didn't stand. Them in Syria, and because we put all our our we all we put everything into the Shahar government, I personally think that was a mistake, and now we're leaving Kurdistan, which per an agreement, I think under the Biden administration, which Trump is adhering to.

So, I think on the one hand, I think it's important to support the Kurds in the region. There is they're a natural ally of ours. There are complications with them, but I think they're they're our natural ally. We should be staying there, and it's an Natural base. Secondly, the bigger issue right now is the Iran issue, as you point out, and I think there are a couple quick things with that.

One is, I think it gets lost a little bit, is that I think fundamentally the Iranians right now, despite all the damage we've done to them, they don't fear us; they fear the Israelis. You know, they haven't attacked Israel directly, thank God, since early December, but unfortunately, they've attacked our excuse me since early June, but they've attacked our troops. Repeatedly in various Arab countries, and it's because they don't see us retaliating in the strong enough way. But they know if they hit Israel, Israel is really going to hit them really, really hard. And we could talk about that if you want.

Yeah, I do. But if we're going to do a serious military operation, it's going to be with Israel, don't you think? Oh yes, absolutely. Look, I was just in Israel two weeks ago. I met you know senior all the senior military and intelligence folks, and it's clear that, and I think the Iranians know this is no secret that if if they get hit, they're just going to hit back hard.

And what does that mean? That means going. I think for the domestic energy facilities, we've talked about this many times, Brian. That means the refineries, the natural gas facilities that feed the electricity. That would really cripple the regime.

The danger, of course, is or the risk, I should say, is that the Iranians will retaliate hard and maybe hit these hell andization plants or other energy facilities of our Arab allies. But I think the Israel, but the Iranians know that Israel will go back and they they might hit leadership targets. I think they'll. They would. I think they'd like to go for the nuclear, also because that's a an outstanding issue that needs to be addressed.

So I think the the Iranians know. That which is why they they're not hitting Israel, but I think when we've had these like tit for tats between us and the Iranians, it's it's not phasing them because we're just doing tit for tats. And I think if they they need to understand that if they hit us, our forces we're going to hit them hard like the Israelis are. Yeah, I mean it would be right now. I think the pressure on them economically is something they've never experienced before, not to this level.

Yeah, and I'll tell you one of the other thing. One thing I've learned in my trip there is how quickly I think that the even the Israelis were surprised how quickly the Iranians started rebuilding their missile forces after the twelve day war last year. They were taken by the Israelis were taken by surprise, and I think what that indicates is, and also the nuclear issue is not completely settled. I don't want to get in all the details. But clearly, we did tremendous damage we and the Israelis last year.

But it's not fully done. There is Pickaxe Mountain, which President Trump has talked about repeatedly, but hasn't hit yet. I think there is some other facilities there. There is the nuclear dust that Trump has mentioned. But I, but I think one of these things that.

I think the the surprise that the Israelis were taken by by how quickly the Iranians rebuilt. the The lesson is that that ultimately the ultimate solution here is that the Iranians are never going to quit. They're going to rebuild their forces, conventional and nuclear. And the ultimate solution here is really regime collapse. Right, but you can't really right now before the election that would be problematic to say that.

No, no, no. Oh, sorry. Would you ever do a deal with them? No, for a few reasons. One, we've seen that they cheat.

Two, I think any deal is going to benefit the regime.

So, as General Kena said repeatedly on Fox, why would you want to give these guys money that they could just, you know, facilitate them rebuilding?

So, and three, I think, as I said, I think the ultimate solution is regime collapse.

Now, I agree with you. You're not going to get this before the midterms, unfortunately. I mean, at least you don't can't expect that. But I do. Think you have to pressure this regime in every possible way so that they collapse, and that we the target should be before Trump leaves.

And I think that means helping the people in Iran in various ways, doing no deal—that's the most important thing. Keep the blockade of the, which has been very effective on their oil exports. And I think fourth, if we can, I would—I think we can accelerate the process of the regime. Demise by maybe after the midterms hitting these interior energy facilities. Yeah, I probably have to.

Yeah, and but what about the open letter, twenty-five page open letter to the American people? I mean, what are they thinking?

Well, you know. I don't know, you know. I I don't know what they think. I think they just think very differently than than we do, and I think that's important to keep in mind. I mean, you mentioned about a deal.

They had the greatest deal in the world when we did that unfortunate MOU in June with them, negotiated in Switzerland by the Vice President. And they keep wanting to go back to that, but they violated it, and you know, just because they can't help themselves. And they see any concessions to the U.S. or Israel as weakness, and they don't want to look weak. And by the way, I think one of the other things I've learned recently is.

This regime has only gotten worse. I mean, the the supreme leader, the son of the previous one, he's in charge. He's giving directives. He surrounded himself with real hardliners. He might be the most hardliner in the in the whole regime over there.

So I think you know things are only going to get worse. And by the way, they still keep executing people, unfortunately, that demonstrated peacefully in that country. Yeah, evidently they were also when they were in our country. They were going to. Osco hoarding out all this stuff.

I mean, I mean, we we let them run around. We should just said you're allowed to stay in your hotel and go to the UN. That's it. But they have nothing, you know.

So the president and foreign minister, given a series of interviews, I think shows a bit of desperation. If they thought they were that confident, they wouldn't been doing that. Yeah, and you know they've been criticized in by some of the hardline media in Iran for looking too open to negotiations. And the fact is, there's no there's no purpose in talking to the president and the foreign minister of Iran. They're not the decision makers.

The supreme leader is the decision maker. The people around him, the IRGC, they're the decision makers, and they're not looking. I think for a deal unless it's a really really good deal with the US.

So and that means a bad deal for us.

So I think the talks with those guys are really pointless. Michael Makovsky, thanks so much. Appreciate it. Thank you. All right.

Good day. When we come back, you can write me at briankillmead dot com and get me put your you know words in writing, or you could call one eight six six four zero eight seven six six nine. Bottom of the hour. We talked midterms with Carolyn Downey, but next is you. Don't move.

Big guests, bold opinions, better information. This is the Brian Kilmeade Show. The more you listen, the more you'll know. It's Brian Kilmeade. You got a lot of damn nerves to be in the face of American people saying for numerous administrations, Iran is a problem.

We they have to be dealt with. Iran is a problem. They have to be dealt with. And then this man deals with them, and then all of a sudden you're complaining about him now. It doesn't really make sense.

It's a lack of decision. Thank you, and that's Bill Marshall, which is just as Stephen A. Smith on, and you know he's Democrat, and he's very similar to Bill Maher. I think he's even more practical. He went to the Hall of Fame last night too, which is interesting.

He went to a Hall of Fame, and now he's getting known more for politics as much as politics is sports. After the Knicks won, anyway. All right. So, what are people writing? They have a lot to say here.

I got to mention from Dale the the estimated two thousand remaining Ukrainians who what's left of the town of Olesky are being systematically starved to death by Vladimir Putin. Please inform your viewers that's true. But they did also take back, I think, three new cities over in the Donbas region. About this from Gary Brian, do you plan on touring Pinehurst in North Carolina? You talk about your United States tour.

I will be going on tour. My brand new book comes out October thirteenth, but I'm right now not going to North Carolina. I got to check the schedule again, but I'm going to look there because we have so many great viewers there, great battleground area, hotbed for Fox viewers. But if you want a personalized book, if you go to BrianKillMe dot com, I can personalize for for you. I got a.

Situation with my own Barnes and Noble right by my house. It's the six crucial moments that forged the American miracle. I think you're going to love it, Dominic. You are right now on the Brian Kilmeade show. Hey, thanks, Brian.

First of all, I love your show. You do great analysis, and it's just awesome. I wanted to bring up a topic that's been really bothering me, and nobody mentions it anymore. And I'm hoping that some of the other guys will pick it up, like Sean and so forth. But anyway, what happened to the unconditional surrender?

That you know, they're always talking about, "Oh gee, we lost sight of what we're trying to do, and we don't have a clear plan." Donald Trump, at the very beginning, said nothing's acceptable until we get un. Yeah, and the thing is, Dominic, he kind of got a mixed message because Steve Witkoff went in there really unprepared and said something similar to the Iranians, where you can enrich, just not enrich that much. And there's been mixed messages in the negotiation, but he's been pretty clear. And he's got people in his administration that don't want him in there at all. He's got podcasters that no no longer speak to him because of it.

But now he's showing great patience, and he's basically saying, if you think I'm going to blink like Jimmy Carter in order to win an election, a midterm election, forget it. And he's always been aggressive on Iran. He talked about Iran being the problem, not Iraq, when he was a businessman. And then he's the one, is the first one to hit him, taking out Soleimani. They're still not over it.

Then in 2025, Operation Midnight Hammer, and then this one.

So no doubt about it. That's his goal. I don't know if unconditional surrender is possible without the Israelis. But I do think that the one thing that was pointed out by Michael Makovsky, my previous guest, who has been widely reported, they have been surprised at how quick Iran was able to rebuild.

So that's the issue.

So you take out their missile defense, and you take out X, Y, and Z, but then you have China. Who arms them up again in Russia? Who arms them up again? And then they have this thing called oil and gas that allows them to to rebuild their economy again, and that terror regime refortifies.

So that's the problem. And President Trump does say he wants to fix it forever, but I don't see any troops going in on the ground. But my hope is there's enough military people left in the Pentagon that understand Iran and know how to take it down. Brian Kilmeade.

If you're interested in it, Brian's talking about it. You're with Brian Kilmeade. Just so you understand, they all want me to go. I'm one person. They all want me to go campaign.

I'm starting in about two days. I'm starting a literally a 32-day tour. Going to all. I'm going to Texas. I'm going to Ohio.

I'm going to all different places.

So that is the president of the United States said I'm going to be heavily involved in the midterm elections.

Now, look, with every president, I remember George W. Bush never left the Oval Office. 2008, the market collapses. John McCain is the nominee. He said, "Listen, George, we're friends.

Can't really appear together." Remember, Bill Clinton said Al Gore was trying to become next president of the United States. Clinton was told, "Stay home." So one thing they're telling in certain battleground areas, they're telling President Trump, you're not going to help, but he's going to help in Nebraska. He'll absolutely help in Ohio. He'll absolutely help in Florida, I think. But he's definitely going to be active.

But I think the best thing he can do is spend. He's got almost a billion dollars, and I think he should not leave that in the bank. He can't spend it anyway. He's got a billion of his own. I would go all in to try to save the next two years.

Caroline Downey is a columnist with the National Review. Caroline, it's going to be a very interesting final month. Your thoughts about the president saying, "I'm going to stay active." I think he's still a kingmaker of the party. That RNC convention proved that. But look, I think the reason why he needs to be actively involved in campaigning is because there's still a lot, lot of administrative.

Things that have been accomplished or lack thereof that he needs to defend and talk about. I think the Iran War, as much as young, as much as much as voters don't vote primarily based on foreign policy, he does still need to explain why it was worth investing in that war in the first place because it has come at the expense of some domestic priorities. Oil being being one of them. Making sure that when you go to the pump, it's it's not astronomically priced. And the fact is that.

The chokehold of the Strait of Hormuz is directly related to an increase in oil and diesel. Diesel is. You don't think he's effectively explained it? Not really. I listen.

I think he he he knows why it's important. He feels like the the leverage, the minimal leverage that the Iranian regime had, is now at a low point. We actually are now getting as much oil out of the Strait. Eighty percent compared to the pre-war era, so we actually are making some headway over there. But again, at at the average consumer level, gas prices, diesel.

You know, the harvest is coming soon. The agricultural sector, they're going to probably see huge price increases because three quarters of all trucks run on diesels. All the commodities you see in the store effectively were transported there by diesel.

So, so diesel is like a massive thing that I don't think is really. And the Russians have stopped. Exporting it, yes. What and again, this—they're not like they're not trying to be creative about resolving this. They're saying, "Oh, let's let's float a diesel export ban." But the evidence I've seen is that that export ban will actually ban a backfire because it treats with a bandaid all the regions of the country and it sort of blankets all of them into one one group.

There are certain parts of the country that actually are net importers of diesel.

So if you ban exports, you're gonna you're gonna end up hurting those. Specific regions of the country, and you're going to decrease the total supply of diesel. Which it's a short-term fix, but long-term, it's not sustainable. What is long-term sustainable is actually getting the Iranian regime to buckle. And I think we are at the best possible position to do that now than we probably ever were.

And as I said this morning, there's two things that could happen. Canadian trade deal. I love to see the president land the plane there. Jameson Greer has told me personally they were done. This thing was done, and then the provinces, these provinces, I don't know what they call them, so told, told the president, you, we're not signing on.

The prime minister, we're not signing off on this.

So they quickly went back, tried to redo the deal.

So they did it.

So James McQuerey walked away. That lands that'll help Ohio, Minnesota, Maine, and other states in that Michigan in that area. The other thing is the Iran. If they continue to show signs that they're they're about to collapse, you have that image of Tehran collapsing, or American American inspectors going into these sites, the straight, wide open. And with the gas and oil, will immediately head in the right direction.

That could change things rapidly, and it's not both. Those things are not are not obscure. No, but I don't think the average American is overly concerned with the macro geopolitics as much as they are the tangible effect on their daily bank account and their daily lives.

So, if gas prices are what they are, and they notice a steep difference compared to a couple years ago, and they are understanding based on the top level mainstream media narrative that it's because of this chokehold in the Middle East, and that's because of the war, they're going to basically say, "Well," X happened, and then Y happened, and now my family is struggling with affordability more than before.

So I just think that needs to be explained a little bit better. But but like I said, we are now transporting because of this military operation in the Strait up to or potentially more than eighty percent of the pre-war levels of oil through. And you know, in the in the Iranians are still being strapped because our embargo, or rather, um, you know, our blockade is still in effect.

So their oil is not getting out. Senator Dave McCormick, on what you're saying, the messaging is not as good as it could be. Cut 26. This party has demonstrated itself to be anti-police, anti-military, anti-business, anti-Semitic, and anti-American. And this isn't just the extreme candidates.

This is what the mainstream has endorsed.

So we need to make sure the voters know they're making that choice. And I never imagined, when I was a soldier in the 82nd Airborne Division during the Cold War, that I'd be a 60-year-old standing in front of 25-year-olds telling them the socialism wasn't going to deliver for them. It's failed over and over. Again, it belongs in the dustbin of history.

So that's the message we got to deliver. It's not just about what we've done, which is good, but it's about the damage that they will do if they're given the opportunity to govern. I just think that too. What would you do? If I'm debating any Democrat, okay, to what's your policy?

Oh, that green energy thing—how's that going to go? We're going to stop drilling in the Arctic. That's going to be great. Offshore drilling—is that out too? Is that going to lower gas prices?

You already depleted the whole strategic oil reserve because you wanted them lower. Was not an emergency. Are you going to leave dictators in place? You got to let China and Russia come back to Central and South America. Just—are you going to open up the border again?

You got to stop building the wall. Just tell me what you would do, except for this right here: Medicare for all, and we're going to increase taxes on. The oligarchs or so-called billionaires, yeah, and have them justify every single one of those radical positions and talk about the implications on the ground as to what will happen. Medicare for all is is their more extreme, most extreme healthcare proposal, right? In the DSA, that would kick off 180 million Americans off their private health insurance or employer-sponsored health insurance, and the polling shows that majority of those on that like it.

So it's going to be very eerily similar. You know what happened with Obama. Tell everyone who's a senior to go to the back of the line. Yeah, Hakeem Jeffries knows this. Yeah, he said I'm not for Medicare for all because it doesn't work.

I want to talk about New York for a second. Mayor Rombdani. Has done one thing that I appreciate. I'm not sure if it's symbolic or not. He released about a million, a 6.4 million dollars to fight hate crimes, which are mostly anti-Semitism.

A million dollars for security at synagogues. What I also think is fascinating about Mamdami is we don't have free buses. This another socialist. We don't have the landlords are suing back to make sure you cannot freeze the rents because it looks like they rigged the vote on the so-called nonpartisan board that says okay to freeze the rents. Yeah.

I don't know if you saw that a Staten Island judge yesterday ruled that New York City improperly rolled out its tax on luxury second homes. You know those horrible rich people that have second homes here. He ordered the city to remove public lists of more than nine hundred thousand potentially affected properties, canceling seventeen thousand mailed notices. You know people like Woody Johnson and people who are you know who are extremely wealthy and said, "I'd love to live in New York City, but I'm not going to live there full." Time, he's making them pay the price.

So that's another thing he was doing.

So is this also showing you the whole socialism thing can't be applied?

Well, also, did you see that Mondale's administration is deploying about 200 influencers to essentially rinse and repeat what they did with doxing Ken Griffin and his property? Yeah, they deny that, but you saw that in the New York Post. I saw that in the New York Post, and yeah, the New York Post like has it on reasonable authority that they're going to expand that entire effort and just make it this broad smear campaign against business owners in the city generally who are quote not paying their fair share, even though they pay the vast majority of the taxes in the city. In the country, but look, zooming out here, Brian. When you describe all of these misplaced priorities of Mamdani, to me, I would I would call it this: a narco tyranny is sort of what it reminds me of.

It is where you are basically going to war against one of the principles of America, which is private property, land ownership, and also simply entrepreneurship, simply operating a business. That is what a lot of these these these CEOs are doing, and he is crusading against them while. Pursuing more of the same, you know, culture war, social justice politics that are not the primary concern of the majority of New Yorkers.

So this is what happens when, when you know, socialism does just kind of rule on this, was basically going after misplaced priorities and then allowing constitutional principles like private property to to be abandoned. I just wish. They would always start their ideas with, "Man, I love this country. This is how I want to make it better." Rather than, "Man, this country is all screwed up, and I'll prove it by telling you everything I want to change from the Senate to the presidency, to success, to advancing in AI, to our foreign policy, and now, of course, immigration." Everyone who wants to live here should be able to live here, which is the most impractical approach to immigration you've ever heard. But if you see AOC talking, she's coming out talking about abolishing ICE, and she tells a group of students, eventually they're going to be coming for all of you.

They'll be coming for all of you. What are you talking about? Why would they go for students at Cornell and Ithaca, New York?

So that's irresponsible. When it comes to AI, listen to this. Cut eight. AI has incredible benefits. I'm sorry.

Cut seven. In an environment of AI, they want to wipe out all of our livelihoods. They want to make sure none of us have jobs. And they want to keep all the spoils of those riches while consuming and burning energy at a pace that is completely unsustainable. To make this worse, does that sound like a deep thinker to you?

I mean, no, no, not not even close. But this is what they're going to leverage. For the midterms and beyond, this is a great fearmongering tactic to basically say that AI CEOs, these data centers, they're going to bring about apocalypse. They're going to ruin your livelihoods. They're going to terrorize your neighborhoods and create noise and suck up all your water supply.

Yada yada. All of that, of course, is untrue. This is a revolutionary technology that this country will have to adjust to. But that's the key thing: we adapt every time. There's been a new technology.

A new frontier that changes the game. The country usually adapts, but this is like the climate alarmism situation that the Democrats, you know, used as essentially a power grab. I think back to the Paris Climate Accords. You know, that was the United States had so much burden; we put so much moral pressure on ourselves to mitigate this impending doom, right? Of the of the planet burning up.

Meanwhile, China, the world's largest polluter, would be disproportionately. Treated better than we would. They list them as a developing nation. Yeah, right. And when the president walked about out of the Paris Climate Change, you would think the world literally came to an end.

And now we realize that the Democrats ran on that. They created this extremist attitude. The same one we're beginning to crop up to go after data centers. We saw it over the weekend, having a meeting at a town hall.

Some guy with a nose ring, who obviously has sexual confusion, comes screaming out, "The world's going to end." If you let this data center be built, I'm thinking to myself, here we go again. The George Floyd riots. Then you had the climate change, which really started before and after. And now you have the new, the new, the new focus is never let a crisis go to waste. Is essentially or create a crisis or create a crisis out of thin air.

Yeah.

So here is in terms of what we're doing now, we are leading in AI, nine to twelve months ahead of a of China. And if you look at the stock market, is fueled by these AI companies.

So if you want to slow down the economy. Right before an election, what if you went and said, "If you continue to invest in those companies, the world will end"? And what if some companies sympathetic to the left, who have donated before, like Anthropic, say, "I am concerned the world will end. I am slowing down." So, my sense is the timing. Is very suspicious, and it goes right back to two weeks ago when Barack Obama came out and told Hakeem Jeffries make AI your number one topic this this midterm.

I will say though, those companies that are somewhat cozy with the Democratic Party that are inviting the government to regulate them, please, we can't be managed on our own. We simply need regulation. That's not like corporate welfare. They're not being these benevolent companies. They simply are trying to be anti-competitive.

That's why you've had antitrust. Lawsuits filed already in California against some of these companies is because this has happened time and time again. They do this to say, "Oh, we we need oversight," but really, it's an anti-competitive play. In what way? You think that smaller companies are starting to make their inroads, and they don't want to make they want to make sure that they stay in the lead.

It's basically picking winners and losers. If the government gets involved in any way, I mean, like I've liked the voluntary cooperation we've seen so far from some of these AI companies. Say, hey, you know, this project it got it it went off the rails a little bit. We just wanted to report that to the public. I liked that transparency.

I liked that the AI companies are communicating. Very closely with the administration, they're not hiding what they're doing necessarily. But if the government comes in with a heavy hand, inevitably there's going to be probably some companies that are favored over others, and that means you are you know meddling in the market, and that's you know not fair, not fair to first of all the entire market, the companies, and also probably the American people. Yeah.

Lastly, Mark Tepper was on with Laura last night through Strategic Wealth Partners CEO, and he said this about AI and the development. Cut seventeen. Look at how much sizzle was out there today. How powerful is this to get roughly twenty of the biggest, most powerful tech CEOs in the world all in one place? You can strategize on how to continue to grow AI, but furthermore, how to grow it in a safe manner.

The U.S. we have to lead on two parts. We do have to develop the best AI systems, but we also have to develop protection. If you go way back to the mid '90s, Charlie, we'll remember this. You know.

When Microsoft DOS was replaced by Microsoft Windows, that gave birth to some great antivirus companies like McAfee and Norton. And you're going to see the same thing happen here. I see the template. I know that superintelligence is brand new by its definition, but that's really how we've done it in the past. Yeah.

Well, and also Mark Tepper makes a great point, which is yes, there will be errors along the way. I don't think we're going to have a Def Con One situation with AI right off the bat. The same thing with climate. It's not like the world is going to evaporate and incinerate tomorrow. There's going to be you know flooding that happens in certain areas.

There's going to be issues that are climate related, and there's going to be issues that are AI related along this long trajectory that we're on. But that just means that companies. Will adapt. They will notify everyone what they're doing, and then there's going to be companies that are born out of this new technology that are like McAfee. He was saying the anti-virus software.

I think that's a brilliant example. I think there's going to be more innovation that comes out of AI because there's going to be companies that are figuring out, okay, how do we how do we mitigate some of the excesses of AI? And that's again going to be a private venture rather than the government's heavy. Caroline, Caroline Downey, thanks so much. We look forward to seeing your next column in the National Review.

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Look, president just ripped Bill Maher again. I don't know why, because he's a Democrat that gives him the time of day and gives him the benefit of the doubt. And that's another example. You going to tell me a guy that gets elected that talks about crime and punishment and getting rid of no cash bail doesn't help you who follow the who follow the law? Maybe you speed a little bit, maybe you park in a maybe you park in a in a no parking zone.

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Everyone, so glad you're there. It's the Brian Kilmeade show coming to you on the final hour of the week. It's got big hour, a lot going on. We're still trying to follow that hijacking, would be hijacking story. It looks like a flight leaving out of Dubai heading into Tel Aviv was attempted hijacking, where one pilot turned on the other, started stabbing them.

Somehow, that door was ajar. Emergency signals were sent past Musa, but to help out and and subdue. The would-be attacker. The thing we are hearing now is that he's of Omani descent. I mean, my goodness, it's hard enough to find out who's flying with you, but you should know who is actually the pilot in a plane.

You know, if it's L. Al, you don't have a problem. But now that you've normalized relations and you're allowed to go to these Gulf states, the problem is who's flying these Gulf states. It was brought up to me by an Israeli Israeli guest that we had on before. We do not.

They Israel does. Not have has not standardized relations with Oman, so that is an issue. You think the UAE would have a way to screen, but an Omani pilot. Let's just see if all these things pan out. I know the Prime Minister of Israel has already come forward and said this was a attempted hijacking, and there were reports in the Jerusalem Post this morning as I was reporting this on Fox and Friends.

That Bibi Netanyahu was warned that a terror attack is imminent.

Something's afoot, and this seems to have been it. Hopefully, that's all. Carl Rove joins us now, former deputy chief of staff, senior advisor to President George W. Bush. Carl, this is the maybe the legacy of Flight 93.

You know, no longer will I sit down if things are going wrong. I will take action. Correct. Yeah, yeah. Thank God, also that there were two off-duty pilots apparently on the flight who were able to help stabilize the plane and land it safely.

Because obviously, the pilot was who'd been stabbed was not necessarily in a condition to do that. Nobody else could. I mean, went from thirty-three thousand feet to seventeen thousand feet, so they were looking to crash the thing.

So even if you did get control of the plane, who can fly the plane, let alone land the plane?

So yeah, that would have been something, but.

So far, it looks okay, but I'm sure you're not out of the woods as we come up to again marking October 7th in Israel. I mean, we got all these dates now because of these attacks. But man is coming down to it, and I think are the attackers, the terrorists, certainly the Iranians, they know the election for Netanyahu. They know the election for Trump. Yeah, but think of it.

the The Iranian sent a what is it, twenty five page letter from the Revolutionary Guard, trying to tell Americans go go out and vote against Donald Trump. I mean, you know, let's be clear. This was not an action on behalf of the Trump campaign to gain sympathy, but idiotic. The Revolutionary Guard says, "Yes, follow us, Americans. We hate America.

We want to destroy your country, but vote vote against Donald Trump." I'll tell you, I'm a little upset. We're pulling out of Iraq again. I know it was Joe Biden's schedule. I understand it. I know it costs money, but this is the wrong message.

When the Iran thing is settled, that's when you make your decision. But now the militias are still armed. Those are the ones that blew up the Saudi pipeline.

So, so what is the Baghdad government going to do to disarm the Shia militias in Iraq? Yeah, well, and remember the Shia militias have now got a lot more sophisticated weaponry. Where are they getting them from? Afghanistan, from what we left behind when Biden pulled us out of Bagram. And I mean, think about it.

I mean, we had gone almost two years without a combat-related death. We had two thousand, just over two thousand personnel there. They were at Bagram. They they were helping train and also maintain the the Afghan. Air Force, so that the threat was if the if the bad guys started to move, hell was going to be raining down on them from above.

And as a result, forty two million people, forty two million people were living in a society that was attempting to become more modern, more democratic. Women were allowed to work outside the home; they were allowed to go to school. And now we've turned them back. It's an insult to the medieval ages to say we've turned them back to the medieval ages by putting the allowing the Taliban to get back in control. The same people who Who gave refuge and succor to Osama bin Laden and refused to turn him over?

Great point.

So there's a couple of things that are that are happening here right now.

So in terms of the economic squeeze, Iran's never been under this type of pressure. My hope is behind closed doors. The president and his team let him know. Let China know. I know what you're doing.

I know what you're up to. I know about the satellite images, and you also know better than anyone, Carl. Going public, embarrassing the Chinese. If your objective is to to avoid a superpower clash while still getting your way, doesn't work. They are very into perception.

So if you're going to be tough, am I am I right? Behind the scenes is when you're tough. In front of the cameras, not when you do it because they get embarrassed. And if you judge by the People's Daily, I think we might be in a decent place. But I want to see action.

So how do you feel about where Iran is right now and that their choice to do? Four interviews with Western media before going back to Iran before they go. Also, making it clear they have a plan they want us to sign off on, even though it's a bad plan. Yeah, let us be clear about this. The president's decision to impose an embargo and to close Iranian ports is having a huge effect.

Let's also be clear: the Secretary of Treasury coming forward with an extraordinary range of additional sanctions—they are beggaring the Iranian economy. And while the Iranian Revolutionary Guard does not care a whit about the ordinary the plight of ordinary Iranians, we are crimping that regime. The amount of oil coming out of the Gulf now is nearly the same as it was before this all began, and that is going to have an impact on oil prices. If not tomorrow and or the next week, it's going to have an impact on it. And second of all, the Iranian economy.

Think about it. It costs 2.5 million rials, their equivalent of a dollar, to buy a U.S. dollar. That's that's up from like 1.5 million before this all began.

So look, the the administration is. They're winning this, and the fact that the Iranians came forward and said, "Oh well, we'll you know if you'll just give us access to the world markets again and take off your sanctions, and blah blah blah blah blah blah blah," then then then then we'll be good boys.

Well, that's that's. Pretty extraordinary on their part, and I think we're on the president is on the way to winning this in a conclusive, long term fashion. He's just got to stay the course. It's wishful thinking for every clear thinking American, but can you imagine what it would do to this election if we had scenes of people storming Tehran and taking their country back first time in thirty seven years? I mean, yeah, or well, the problem is they don't they don't have enough guns.

You know we, you know, they face this gigantic apparatus called the Revolutionary Guard that is going to fight to the last man. But I do think the, you know, the people of Iran are not going to stand for this forever. And and give credit where credit is due, the president and his Secretary of the Treasury are doing a fabulous job on this. Yeah, as is obviously the U.S. military.

Right. Yeah, and they're rotating through. They're not making a big deal. I know it's a big sacrifice—fifty thousand in the region.

Some are sitting on ships for seemingly endless times, but they should know they're appreciated. I just, I just think that right now people are so focused on November. To the president's credit, he's not buckling under November. Right. Well, and he shouldn't.

You know, two things. One is, first of all, I thought it was interesting in the recent polls, four percent of the American people said Iran was the most important issue. And then the other thing is, the more that the president looks strong, the more it is that people will say, you know what, I don't like the war, but maybe he knows more than I do. And not only that, but it looks like he's doing a good job. Here's what General Jack Keane said: Is we should do next, cut forty.

We've got to finish them. Is I think. The only thing that makes sense here—not just the economic, which is very good—blockade and bessent, but also we're going to have to finish with our military objective. Combined, I think we can put them on a path and set the conditions for their collapse. Bring in the CIA and the Mossad, undermine this regime rather significantly, and help the Iranian people to arm themselves and overthrow it.

That is absolutely, and it. Achievable goal, and he also went on to say in a different comment to me earlier that one of the things to do is there's plenty of groups we've recognized them, we know exactly where they are. If you get them arms when the Iranian army goes to move, that's when we come in with air cover, and that's he goes. It's he says it's not. This is General Keen saying this four star general.

He says it's not that hard.

So it's not Brian Kilmeade saying it or Carl Robe. He's saying it's not that hard, and he just left Israel, where he spent fourteen or between seven and ten days, and he went into Gaza, went into the tunnels, had a chance to talk to those generals, and he told us as much as he could. Yeah, no. Look, I couldn't agree more with him. And look, we've destroyed their air force, so you know we control the skies.

And what we do know is that air power in support of ground operations, led by Iranians, could be a powerful combination. We've seen it happen before.

So I want to bring you to the midterm elections, and it looks like in one poll, it looks like Mike Rogers come even with all the real clear average. He's trailing by about four to El. Saeed, but this guy is so belligerent. You've seen a lot of opponents and a lot of radical candidates, but usually they moderate for the general. Listen to some of the things and challenging things this guy has said.

Cut twenty-eight. I want to give people the image of watching him get his ass whooped on his own show by a guy who preys like I do. With all due respect, if they go low, we don't go high. We take them to the mud and choke them out. I know you guys like to think I don't like football, but I'm happy to line up against anybody who thinks that I don't like football.

I'm happy to invite him to any weight room in any place. We can do it in DC, and let's see.

So, is that is that what the people in Michigan want?

Well, those are just machismo and bravada. What they should really, and I think what they really are concerned about, are his views on things like, you know, is America a good country? You know, what does he think of Jews? What does he think of the October seventh attacks? Does he ever defend or try and shelter from criticism people who applauded the attack on the United States of America?

I mean, remember, this is a guy who, on the most important day of his campaign, the last day as he's coming as he's coming in the primary, attempting to win. What does he do? He campaigns with a guy who said the United States of America deserved the attack on nine eleven and who criticizes our country as a Shithole.

So yeah, look, he he may go around Mr. Machismo here at the end, and you know I'll take on all comers and and whip you. But but what really troubles me is that this guy is fundamentally way out there on the left and is not in touch with the ordinary views of Michigan Center Democrats.

So he's trying to take the Maha movement. Yesterday in interview, he says, you know, we really own the Maha movement. He tells CBS, I'll always be evidence driven when it comes to vaccines, but the Key thing is that you want to know what you're feeding your kids and what you're putting in their body. And RFK Jr., Donald Trump, and Mike Rogers have failed that test in droves. Really, I don't think anyone's done more for the food pyramid, changing it, and done more to get additives out of our foods than than RFK.

You might not like him on vaccines. That's fine. Go ahead, have that debate. But when it comes to what we're doing on food, my goodness, Carla. Do you really think he gives a whid about this?

No, he's looking for some. He's looking for a way to sort of you know what how what element of the Trump coalition might I be able to to to talk to, and and and what can I do not to be able to not talking about my views on things that that I've come to realize the ordinary Michiganders don't like. I mean, you know, Israel, America's role in the world, whether America is a good country or not, whether we whether we ought to have government run health care. And government run this and government run that. I mean, you know, you go talk to some union member there and say you got to give up your very good healthcare benefits that you got from the motor company that you work for in order to get on a government program.

They're going to tell you what you can do with that idea.

So it ain't going to be pretty, right?

So we'll see where it goes. And there are certain things that we know: the numbers don't lie. The president and his party have an uphill battle. Here is Harry Enton on CNN, and tell me if your stats look the same way. Cut thirty one.

The target group of voters is white non-college voters. They were the heartbeat of President Trump's three presidential campaigns, and right now the heartland is ripping the heart out of Donald Trump's presidency. He's now in the negative with white non-college voters. Look at this—he's down a minus two points. He's in the negative territory with the group of voters that fueled his three presidential bids and allowed him to win a second term in the White House back in twenty.

24. We're talking a drop here with the key core group of Donald Trump's presidential campaigns, of 27 points away from the president of the United States. No wonder he's so low.

Did you see those numbers like that too? That was the first time I had heard that. Yeah, I have a slightly different view of it. I think that it's one thing to look at them and say these are you know white male non-college voters, but you need to look at what was their what's their self-description. And the problem is not among MAGA; it's not among the people who say Donald Trump, I love him, I was for him in twenty sixteen, twenty twenty, twenty twenty four.

He can do no wrong. The problem is with non-MAGA Republicans and independents who supported Donald Trump. And so you know what he's got to do there is. And what Republicans have got to do is have a forward-looking vision and a sharp contrast with the Democrats that allow those people say, you know what, whatever sort of misgivings I have about President Trump, not a good role model for my kids. You know, I'm worried about what he's been doing on inflation and all this stuff about you know the son getting the the the wedding party paid for by the Russian, all that kind of stuff.

I don't like it. What you need to do is say, "Here's what it is that Republicans want to do, and here's what it is that the Democrats have done and will do." Your favorite newspaper is the Wall Street Journal. I have unconfirmed reports. They had a lead editorial today, and they just I thought it was spectacular. They did spectacular.

Yeah, and what the theme was? Look, I am going to show you what Bush. I am going to show you what Trump did. I am going to show you what Biden did. I am going to tell you where inflation was and where it is.

Put it in perspective. What was your takeaway from this? I thought it was great. It was great ammunition, but you know, here's my concern. In fact, you spoke to the Wall Street Journal.

There's a piece I've read it. It's going to be in the paper tomorrow. Really well done. I thought very thoughtful. I think I've done a hell of a job on it myself.

Karl Rove. My concern is the the messaging of the Republican effort. What has the last month been? We started off with you know the the Trump dividend. We had the the son getting the party paid for by the Russians.

We got the president saying the Iran is we're ready for a deal. And six days later, he says I'm going to maybe annihilate them. You know we have not had a good set of messages that say here's what we're for, here's what we want to do, and here's what the other side done. And we continued to do it. We did it all month, and we wasted a lot of time on unessential things.

The next Four and a half weeks have got to be focused. the The Trump team, Trump needs to have a message of the day that it that it pushes every day and and stops as much of this extraneous stuff. We don't need to hear about the president saying, "I'm going to tear down the Kennedy Center if I don't get recognition." We don't want to hear about the I got the great triumphal arch, and I've agreed that we're going to have drones and snipers and and a whole bunch of sniper ammunition. But who are those snipers going to shoot? People driving down the parkway.

I mean, we need to stay focused, and they and this starts at the White House, and it starts with the president's political operation. And they've got plenty of good material. I mean, we we we talked about two of them here. But you know, they got to get focused. I can't wait for that column tomorrow.

Nostradamus predicted a great column tomorrow. I can't wait to see if it comes true. All right, thanks, Carl. Appreciate it. Thank you, buddy.

All the best. You're the best. Both sides, all opinions. It's Brian Kilmeade. Breaking news, unique opinions.

Hear it all on the Brian Kilmeade Show. One one charged up straight away. Rafaela back. Ben Rice dead central two nothing. He hammers.

Ball right center field. It is a slam, and that is it. The Yankees blow out the Red Sox in Game One. It was a tight game for a while, right, Pete? I don't know if you had a chance to watch.

Yeah, it was only it was only two nothing early on, and even when Schlitler left, I think they were still only up one nothing. A couple of runs. Yeah.

So here's the thing. Maybe I'm old school. I know they want to go deep in the playoffs. I don't take him out after seven, after six. Excuse me.

Yeah, no, I agree. I mean, they'll say, "Well, he had over a hundred pitches, which is 117 rare today." But I agree with you. Yeah, I like. You can't lose that game. And I like his.

They have a solid bullpen, but it's not him. And but if he said, "Hey, listen, I'm exhausted," I all right, different story. Yeah.

But now tonight, do you like the idea of him pitching game one? Because they were talking about him pitching game two, Cam Schlitler. I like it because you you are up one now. You just have to split the next two. I like it because he's the best pitcher.

He's a he's a Cy Young candidate, maybe MVP. Right, possible. Max Fried will be next when healthy, pretty strong. Yeah, not bad. I know.

From Boston perspective, he can't be happy. What a shame. The fastest three hours in radio. You're with Brian Kilmeade. Nearly all the passengers on the flight were Israelis.

During the flight, as they were approaching Israel, one of the pilots stabbed the other pilot and apparently tried to crash the plane with everyone on board. Is that unbelievable?

So that is the translation, Benjamin Netanyahu, about what happened. In case you don't know, a flight leaving UAE was attempted hijacking on route to Tel Aviv. They ended up landing in Saudi Arabia miraculously. The theme that's emerging is Flight 93 legacy, and that is: when in trouble, do not sit down. You have to take action.

And the way I understand it, Col Rob got this information. I heard some of it before I came up to do the show in the six minutes between TV. Radio that there were pilots on board. They call it deadheading. It I think it's called among pilots is right deadhead.

So when you're a pilot and you're just trying to get to another location, go home or whatever, you'll just sit in the back. You know, you grab a seat and you sit in the back. That's who was able to take over because the pilots, one pilot was stabbing the other pilot. With me right now is Martha McCallum. Hey, Martha, welcome back.

Hi, Brian. Good to be with you. Set to host our show at three o'clock today. The story, Martha. First off, we're just piecing this all together, but it looks like hijacking and an attempted hijacking, and this was forecasted in to Benjamin Netanyahu.

Evidently, he was briefed. He was told there's something going on. Look out. I mean, on one hand, it's it's not surprising given what's going on in the world, given the war with Iran, given the proxies that they always turn to when they're in sort of a desperate position. I mean, all of the indications are that the pressure on them from the Strait of Hormuz blockade is continuing to slowly mount.

There are indications that you know, in that there are student gatherings that are a bit troublesome to them. There are motorcycle Um.

Sort of guards and checkpoints that are rising in Iran as they get a little bit more nervous about whether or not people will revolt. All that is in the you know sort of in the background and of this situation, but they have always turned to this sort of asymmetric warfare.

Now we don't know what this is yet. This may have been just a pilot who went crazy and wanted to down the plane. We've seen that before in history too, sadly. But we're waiting. For more information on this, but you know, I mean, I think that history tells us what this—that it smacks of things that we have certainly seen before, and whether or not this pilot was a plant on this plane from some.

Proxy organization. What we're going to find out, but you know, we always sort of urge caution as we move forward in this. The passengers are landing now, and we're going to start to hear their story. But as you point out, we see the images of others on the plane. One man in particular who has blood all over his t-shirt, and it it it may be a real heroic story that a pilot who was.

On that plane, on his way back from another, you know, from another route, may have saved all those people's lives.

So a lot to know at this point. Yeah, can you imagine that?

So it went from thirty-three thousand feet to seventeen thousand feet. Seventeen thousand. And then to have to be a pilot, I wouldn't know what that was like. But to get to run to the cockpit and you just try to, you know, it's a it's a plane. Maybe you flew before, maybe you didn't.

Get it instantly and able to correct it right away. And somehow the pilot, one pilot, was in there. Maybe the one being attacked was able to call in an emergency that there was some type of problem on the plane, and they scrambled jets. But what you mentioned is true. The plane now had let Saudi Arabia and has landed in its original intent destination, Ben Gurion Airport in Israel.

So we're about to get that story in detail. And we have Naftali Bennett, who is the former prime minister, speaking now.

So we'll we'll see what. Happens, but it just goes to show you the regions. I was on fire. I'm just looking at Alex, Al Jazeera English, and it says it looks like the U.S. says U.S.

has officially responded to the proposal under review with Qatar mediation.

Now, the proposal we saw was a joke. Open up the Strait, unfreeze our funds, and after seven days, we'll talk about a nuclear program. We're not going to touch that. Yeah, I mean that the president indicated as much. It looks like I mean I think that the MOU was the best deal that they were ever going to get.

A lot of people were very unhappy, felt it was too lenient a deal for Iran. But then you know they targeted ships in the Strait, and that deal fell apart. And you know the president, as always, would like to solve this diplomatically, but there's no indication that the Iranians are meeting him anywhere near. Halfway on any of this, and you know, I mean, the idea of unfreezing those funds is something that the Iranian diaspora, the people who are out in the rest of the world and want very much to see this government overthrown in their country, they want to see that those frozen funds used for them to aid the people of Iran, not to put money back into the pockets of the regime. And we know what happened last time in 2008.

Everyone said, "Oh, that deal was so great." The deal was so great. They built up their ballistic missile program. They they made Hezbollah and Hamas flush with cash, and they took that cash and they turned it to terror activities. And it's not me saying that or Martha McCallum. Saudi Arabia says all their intelligence revealed all that money went to terror.

So if we unfreeze their funds. Just so you know, if that regime stays in power, we're just delaying a problem to the next president, who might not be as conscientious as this one. I use that term because I think Israel Iran is a problem. But Stephen A. Smith had a great comment on Bill Maher the other night.

As you know, he's not a Republican, but listen to this. You got a lot of damn nerves to be in the face of American people saying for numerous administrations, Iran is a problem. We they have to be dealt with. Iran is a problem. They have to be dealt with.

And then this man deals with them, and then all of a sudden you're complaining about him now. It doesn't really make sense. It's a lack of discipline. And even Bill Maher's, you know, his his audience claps. Yeah, I mean Stephen A.

Smith is a realist, and he's not afraid to look at the situation, regardless of his politics, and tell it like it is. We we've heard this our entire lifetimes, Brian. You know, and ever since 1979, the revolution, that that Iran needed to be dealt with. I think one of the frustrating things is the Active participation. I understand that the Gulf states are under fire; that our bases in those areas have been under fire.

It's an unnerving situation. They are very close to it, but this is a moment when this regime could potentially lose its footing. And that the people of Iran might get their country back after all these years, and these things take patience and time. And I always feel like, you know, when you look at the history of World War One, World War Two, you see that these chips fall slowly. You have to keep sort of you know putting digs in the side of the tree before the tree falls, and I think that there is a lack of patience.

And you know, if you really look at the undercurrent here, you see that they are, as Scott Besant points out, they are struggling. And when you see them putting these motorcycle bands of you know IRGC or Basij forces on the streets because they're getting worried, that that tells you something as well.

So you know, I think that the American people, as difficult as it is, rising gas prices, things are going. You know, I think it's very interesting to note that consumer spending really has not cooled off.

So regardless of these price pressures, people are still. You know, I remember Labor Day weekend. It was like highest number of people traveling in you know in history. Like so, something's not adding up here.

So I think that. I think that the message needs to be articulated a little bit better in terms of what this is all about, and patience, and the bigger picture, and fortitude on the part of the American people. I know there are struggles out there, but this this takes time. It takes time, and I but I I see indications that it is happening. And then you see this thing today, and it gives you an indication of what a lashing out entity can do.

If indeed this turns out to be related to any of this, it could be a crazy person, a crazy pilot. But you know, we have to keep all these things in mind as we look at this.

So you know, you love the strategy too of of the campaigns. To me, it's like sports, very much like sports. How do you perform in the clutch? What do you emphasize? How how much do you want to hustle?

What do you? How much do you want it? And and and everything so close. That's why I laugh when people say this is done. Really, it's done.

Yeah, come on.

So the Wall Street Journal, I'm sure you've seen the lead editorial, just broke down. Let's just look at what kind of policies Democrats would have should they gain power. Instead of saying, "Well, I want inflation to be less and I want spending to be less," or whatever it is.

So they took, for example, the consumer prices rose on average of five percent during Biden's four years. You know how much it rose under President Trump? Two point nine. First term, one point nine. When it comes to cost.

If you want to build a home in California, it costs 2.8 times as much as it costs 2.8 million dollars on average in in Texas, one million dollars in gas on average, inflation adjusted. Trump's gas is three dollars and forty three cents a gallon for two years. Biden's was three eighty three. All right, and this guy drained our strategic oil reserve because he didn't want to drill. And just so you know, utilities they judge it by the kilowatt.

Average resident retail electricity rates are a national average is high. California is thirty three cents, Massachusetts thirty cents, New York twenty nine cents, New Jersey twenty five.

Now let's look at the Republican cities. You got Florida fifteen, Nebraska thirteen, Tennessee thirteen, Utah thirteen.

So there's a difference in red states. In blue states, and you should somehow, when you're a voter out there, make a decision of the direction you want your country to head. It's not. Oh, I'm so mad at Trump. He's disappointed me.

It's not going as quick as I can. Just so you know, the other guys want to stop drilling entirely off the coast in the Gulf of America. They want to stop pipelines. They want to go back to solar panels. They're just not admitting it.

They're not going to have the same immigration policy. The caravans are going to start again. They're just not admitting it. So you just have to say to yourself. What is the alternative?

Instead of I wish things were better, I'm not sure the Republicans have made that case or made Democrats say what they would do. Yeah, I agree with you, and in a way, I think so much of the platform of Democrats has been sort of the oxygen has been sucked into these you know Democratic socialists, and I think that they do represent. The sentiment of a certain part of the population. I thought it was very interesting in those Wall Street Journal pieces as well that there are a lot of areas where, according to these polls, Republicans and Democrats and Independents want government price controls on things like pharmaceuticals. There are certain things.

That according to this poll, anyway, people seem to want the government to take care of. But they also, the same people, want a very secure border. And I think it's interesting that you know that the shift that we've seen and how quickly people forget what the border situation was like over the past four years, and that and how quickly just defining the southern border of the United States changed it, and how quickly allowing border officials. To do their job instead of sitting at a desk and pushing papers, changed that situation.

So you know, I mean, I think voters and American people have very short memories, and so as politicians, you have to be super agile. You have to keep telling them, you know, what you're doing for them lately. But I do think that it's not being well articulated as we head into the weeks, you know, the most important weeks of the midterm races. You know, what do you do? You want to go back to the way that it was, and and I don't.

I think it's these races are super close because people are not sure about that answer.

So, who do you have on your show today? Were you thinking about? I know you still got plenty of time.

So we are going to be. I think we're going to end up watching President Trump and Howard Lutnick make announcement at three thirty this afternoon, which of course is going to be of great interest because we all watched the fascinating post. Meet the post press conference after the AI group was all there. I mean, it's pretty extraordinary to put all of those individuals in a room and say, "Look, we don't." Essentially, my takeaway is, we don't want to regulate you. The White House is saying, but we want you to be responsible and to regulate yourselves.

Whether or not that's going to work, I'm not. I'm not sure. But it, at least, the president he is a man of action. And a man of talking, so he got them all in the room. I mean, I'm trying to think like other presidents and how they would handle this because it is a huge issue, and he wants to unleash the ingenuity of all these people.

But we also need to make sure that you know that these machines don't get out of every guardrail because people say, "Oh, just put in guardrails." The problem is they've tried to put in these guardrails as they've been working on these models, and the agents keep. Hopping out of them. I mean, it's it's a bizarre situation to even discuss, but that's a real thing.

So I think what you see is President Trump looking for that balance.

So I'm hoping that we're going to get a little bit more. On that and what happened at the meeting from the president and Howard Litnick at three thirty today.

So we're looking forward to that. We're also obviously going to be leading with this airplane story as we get more information on what happened here. Also, Vice President Vance is in Texas this afternoon campaigning. It looks like Texas and Ohio are the two places where the biggest amounts of money is going into these campaigns.

So those races we're going to watch closely. Absolutely, and I know you're excited.

Next month, your book of Valor comes out. You have a great audio book. You're kind enough to have me allow me to participate, and and that book comes out next month. Great job! I mean, your love of history.

Brian played William Dawes, so people are playing and narrating each of these characters, and Brian did an amazing job on William Dawes, who also rode with Paul Revere that night, except he took the southern route to Lexington. That is true.

So that's going to be great next month because we have 250 years of America, and you were kind enough to endorse my book, and that is. United States: The Six Crucial Moments That Forged the American Miracle. That comes out in two weeks, so we're going to be talking a lot about history, Martha. I hope we can. I can't wait to read it.

Do a mutual history of your books at my house, and we're really excited for the new one, Brian. Absolutely.

So it's going to be great. You can you can order that right now. Go on Amazon wherever you can pre-order. I don't know if you have you set up your own website yet or your own. Absolutely.

Yes, MarthaMcCallum.com, and you can go to Amazon or anywhere and purchase the book of. Valor. It's a beautiful book, and it's the history of America, and it's American stories strung together from the Mayflower women all the way through the war in Afghanistan, and includes five Medal of Honor recipients telling their own stories.

So it's pretty, it's it's pretty cool. I'm really excited about it. Yeah, you should be. Thanks a lot, Martha. I will see you at three o'clock today.

You, Brian. Look forward to it. You got it.

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Hill back and it's gone. A double in. Start the other way. Hicklin and the Braves. Then there you go.

They beat the Phillies five to three in Game One.

So the Yankees win nine nothing over Boston. They played today, and the Braves beat the Phillies, who really skidded into the postseason. Don Mattingly, the manager, after the loss, cut forty eight. Anytime you lose a game late, obviously it's frustrating. But you know, in our minds, we had our best guy out there.

You know, you live with live with this one. Could Painter pitch the ninth? Could have. What was the plan for the ninth if Duran got out of the eighth? It depended where we landed.

You know, we had Bolin, we had different guys. We probably combo the inning a little bit. Piece of quick out. Then we check with him. We'll see.

I went into decision to go to Duran in the seventh, and was he the plan for the last three, or do you have a different plan for the ninth? Yeah, we talked about for the game. If we're at the top, we're getting to the top. We're gonna go seventh, eighth.

So that is Mattingly, desperate to win a playoffs to get to the World Series. He almost won the World Series as a bench coach with the Toronto Toronto Maple Maple Leafs. Toronto Blue Jays didn't happen last year, and he was done. He was going to be a bench manager with the Phillies, and then is then they fired their manager. They hired him, his son's GM, and now he's running the Phillies.

And they got a good team. They actually surged under Mattingly. I'm not sure they're the best team in the National League. In fact, I know they're not. And they're not playing well right now, but we'll see what happens.

Do you see what happened in Houston? They win their division by going 500. They open up at home. They they have 21,000 empty seats, and they're getting booed, and they're all angry at their fans. I mean, that shows that baseball is bad.

It's not really on the Astros. I know it's a terrible record for a playoff team, but man, when you can't show for the playoffs, your sports in trouble.