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Bottom of the hour, Paul Sperry will be joining us. He's a fantastic reporter, real clear investigations. He's looking at the number of prisoners in Gitmo, some of which are the worst of the worst. They might be letting out, which is absolutely insane and why Kili Sheikh Mohammed still hasn't been tried, which is a little crazy. Lawrence Jones is also here, and he's going to be talking to you in just a moment, fresh off Fox and Friends.

He wanted to take a quick shower. I told him I'd buy some time, but he wanted to be totally fresh for radio.

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The Houthis are only saying that it's unrelated to what we're doing with Iran. That, of course, is a lie. Secretary Rubio even hinted at this. He said, look, the Houthis are supplied by and funded by, probably directed by, the Iranian regime. Yep, no doubt about it.

That is true. And that is Rebecca Heinrichs with me on Fox & Friends today. Iran war gets more complicated as the Houthis and Saudis bloody each other up. And it affects oil flow big time as China helps Iran target us. Are we going to make them pay?

Number two. If on October 10th, those Democrats are still leading their races after that onslaught, I think this is going to be a ban or a cycle for Democrats. But these next few weeks are crucial because the money is finally here for Republicans. Yep, midterm mania. As both sides look at their upside and downside, we look at all factors.

Number one. I really don't know the details of foreign policy, as it were, but I do hope that the people in China who are looking at the same problems as we are, So they're trying to build the same technology. We'll come to the same conclusion that it has to be done in a measured manner. Yeah, that is Anthropics employee Jacob Coxon, who's quit because he doesn't like the direction of AI. The hysteria kicks into full gear from CEOs in charge to the politicos who suddenly want to be.

Meanwhile, it's one to be in charge.

Meanwhile, administration cautions not to overreact because China certainly won't. They're going to continue to forge ahead. Lawrence Jones officially joins us now. Lawrence, this has been crazy. one story after another every sunday show first half hour all about it it almost seems intentional yeah the ceos of these companies too well i mean the ceos are saying that it's a problem and that um you know the concerns are real but saying that congress has to step in i'm sorry if you think if the problems are legitimate then you guys can solve it if the world is getting ready to end You don't wait on the next company to establish the rule of the government to step in.

You do your duty.

So I think it's honestly, look, obviously with everything, technology, emerging technology, there's always some type of concern. I just think that this has become political. Democrats realize with the data centers and AI being the enemy right now for some, they can leverage that. And number two, I believe that China has an entire campaign when it comes to disinformation because they want to be the most powerful force with that. And if we continue down this path, they will be.

Here's Dario Amodi. He runs Anthropic. Cut 17. The more long term thing would be working together to put a speed limit on the rate of AI progress. I think that's going to be very difficult.

We shouldn't kid ourselves because the incentives to pull ahead and the military advantage that you get from that are so large that the ability to check that the other side isn't cheating has to be ironclad.

So I think that's going to be the work of years. And honestly, I don't know if it's possible, but we should we should try. We should see if if it is possible. Again, all of this is above my pay grade. I have no idea how to negotiate with China.

You know what's so funny about this? Because in this answer, he tells the truth, right? He doesn't know it's possible. Sir, it's impossible. There is going to be no working together.

It's a competition, right? It's a competition. You can't treat this as if this is some type of track meet where you establish rules. The problem is when it comes to AI is in order to enforce it, that means every single company is going to be sharing data. And if you share it with China, as they are the data that you don't even share, they steal.

So that eliminates the competition alone.

So he's right. He does it when he says he doesn't know it's possible. It's impossible. Literally. Tristan Harris, who does understand Silicon Valley, is sounding the alarm.

He was on with me on Sunday night on One Nation, Cut 21. To be clear, we're not saying pause all AI.

So I'm aligned with Mr. Sachs. We want to advance AI that's controllable, that can help us, but not go beyond the level where it's uncontrollable. Let's call that the Skynet AI. Pivot to pro-human?

Pivot to pro-human.

So the incentives right now are to replace human labor. That means that that's not good for your average American. It's like outsourcing your job to China. This is outsourcing your jobs to AI. Pro-human means build tool AI, pro-human AI.

The third is we need mandatory incident reporting to the U.S. government.

So when this happens, the U.S. government should have the maximum details. And then the fourth is we should share that evidence with China because they don't know. Just like we had red phones at the Soviet Union, we need red line phones with China. And again, I think that China just doesn't actually know about the same risk.

And they want to keep control. They don't want to lose control to AI. China doesn't know about the risk. Come on. You lose me there.

You lose me there. I'm not trying to discredit the guy, but they're fully aware of the risk. China has made a calculated analysis that they still want to win. Also, the reporting tool, not going to happen. Whenever you give the government control over technology, they abuse it every single time.

We saw that with the whole monitors when it came to social media. They only targeted one side.

So, look, Brian, I don't want to sound like I'm not taking this seriously because I do believe there are some threats. But to his point about people being replaced, yes, in some industries we've seen the replacement. We've also seen in many other industries that the AI needs the human.

So let's talk about the midterms. Jonathan Martin on Meet the Press thinks the advantage right now is to Democrats. On the generic poll, it looks like they have a 10-point lead, which the Republicans got to get that down to five or six if tradition would have it, if the normal calculations play out. Cut 32. AAA had the average price of gas at 430 on Friday.

Diesel's now at six.

Sort of the shorthand that I use, guys, is every nickel that the average price of gas goes north, you can add one more Democratic House seat to their pickup. up. It's directly correlated to voter sentiment right now. And if you talk to smart Democrats, they're holding their breath right now. It's September 13th.

And I think the view of Democrats right now is the onslaught is coming. There's going to be a massive financial edge here in the next couple of weeks for the GOP because the money is finally flowing. And it's all going to be on the culture wars. If on October 10th, those Democrats are still leading their races after that onslaught, I think this is going to be a banner cycle for Democrats. But these next few weeks are crucial because the money is finally here for Republicans.

Your thoughts? It's a coin flip still right now. I mean, when it comes to the Republicans, it's going to be all about turnout. And when it comes to the analysis right now, they are not inspired to turn out.

Now, to his point is that the money is flowing, that this is somehow going to change the game. I don't know, maybe. I thought that the midterms convention was a massive success, re-energized people. But people came to that convention to see the president the question is even though the president is saying to his people i'm on the ballot i'm on the ballot show up for me he's not on the ballot and democrats feel as if they say he's on the ballot that works for them too so uh we'll see who's right amy walter on from the cook report talked about texas and those districts that the republicans redistrict to win the problem is the hispanic support has dropped Cut 34. Trump won Hispanic voters in Texas by 10 points.

Right now, we have the generic ballot, which asks, would you vote for a Democrat or a Republican? With Democrats up 27 points in the Rio Grande Valley, they're up 14 points. The Rio Grande Valley is the heart of where the battle for three seats in Congress and where a lot of this redistricting happens.

So just imagine a place that Trump carried really easily by double digits, the Rio Grande Valley, that is, in 2024, now voting overwhelmingly for Democrats. I'm not surprised that we lost ground there, Brian. I do question the percentage gap. 14, but I mean, that would be huge. But you heard me say this from the very beginning, be tough on the border.

Deportations, you have to go after the criminals. You have to do that. You got to send a message that this is never going to happen again. But I also said, from the very beginning, be careful of the way that you do this. Because it will help hurt you when it comes to Latin voters, that new coalition of the Republican Party.

There may be some evidence that it hurt us some right here, that the way it was done, not deporting people, but the deporting all people, even though in theory I agreed with that because they broke the law. I'm just saying from a practicality point. mass deportations people are emotional yeah people like uh you know if you read that book regime change the steven miller and company want mass deportations tommy lahren for example on our channel that want to admit that mass deportations but for the most part the american people don't want mass deportations they want worse to the worst criminals got ones uh that maybe refuse to show up at their hearings but other people that have woven in even though people listening say oh, that's not the, if you're here, you just got to get out. Then there's the reality of it. Here's more about how it could affect Texas, cut 35.

Many of these voters were bought in on the idea that Donald Trump was the one who's going to fix the economy. He was the one who's going to make their lives a little bit easier. They still give him credit on the border. Many of these folks in the Rio Grande Valley support border patrol. They support restrictions on immigration.

They don't like what's happening with ICE, and they especially aren't happy with state of the economy. I think it's more so how they felt. Listen, I think when I talk to voters, they give the president some grace when it comes to the economy. They realized that it wasn't going to happen just like this. I think the one error that the administration has made when it comes to the talk of the economy is what happened with the war, right?

It should have been made very clear that the pain is going to happen, but it's a necessary pain for your safety. And because we keep teeter-tattling with it and saying we can't allow the straight to be, we can't allow oil prices to be impacted by that, I think that's the wrong message. It shouldn't be on the same line as the economy, even though it impacts the economy. It's national security. We've got to do it despite the impacts.

It has to be no one would have ever suggested. I understand it's a little bit different that we don't go to war with the Taliban after 9-11. Right. No one would have said all prices is going to hurt us. It's going to hurt us.

No one wouldn't have suggested that. And so when you when you frame the argument that way, then you have the American people on your on your side. And finally, this is the last one about the Hispanic voter in Texas. Cut 36 of the districts that we rate as the most competitive. There are 37 of those.

About a dozen of them are districts where the Hispanic population is at least 20%.

So it's not just Texas where Hispanic voters are going to be critical. It's, as you said, it's in places like the Central Valley in California, in the Denver suburbs. These are places where it wasn't just Texas where Hispanics shifted in favor of Republicans. It was in a lot of these places, too. I think Tom Holman being in charge now has changed a lot.

I just wish it would have done earlier. You can disagree with them. You can disagree with them. But these voters are not saying that they want an open border. They want strong borders.

They're not saying that they don't want deportations. They want deportations. But some of the messages that were sent out early on, you can't expect people to vote for you if their loved ones are being deported, whether it's legal or not. The generic ballot says 54-46 according to CBS in favor of Democrats. That's big.

for Democrats. Why are they voting? 80% of Democrats, when asked, why are you voting Democrat? Because of Trump. When they asked the GOP, why are you voting for Republican?

61% they're voting because of Trump.

So they both bypass. It's all about Trump. But 80% of the Democrats are motivated by the fact that Trump is doing it. As always, this is going to be a battle of the independents. And if the independents are willing to accept crazy or not, if they are, then we got a problem.

But if they see this as a threat to the country, that may turn.

Now, some of them have been very artful, like Tallarico, a socialist, but he's slick. He just changed. Al Saeed, massive socialist. But he said, I'm not a part of the socialist movement. You know, slick.

so are the voters going to see through the slick rhetoric yeah uh perhaps so in the next few weeks i think the game is yet to be played i think it's a canadian deal president can land that that could help with ohio maine and michigan if especially if it's the right deal and number two is the iran war are you going to be able to break the hammerlock right now they've totally sealed them off to the point where they're getting the iraqi militias going they're getting the houthis going But if you could get a situation where they make a run on the Capitol and that regime falls, the massive negative could be a massive positive. Get the people the weapons that they need. Right. No deals. Right.

And there is no deal. And by the way, Dave McCormick, of all people, a traditional Republican, said get them weapons. 100%. That's the only way. Iran is truly not going to fall until the people get the weapons anyway.

Yeah. You're still going to have people within the country. Even if we have the best military operation, at some point, the people still need to have a fair fight. And the problem with the Iran's, there's literally nobody in charge. No.

You read the story where the Presky and the president, if you believe it, Presky called up the IRGC because they thought the MOU was the best deal they're ever going to get.

So why are you bombing? Why did you bomb the street? And the Vahiti said, it's not me. Right. So there was somebody else more radical than the IRGC.

Which was, if you read the documents, this is the way that the former Supreme Leader, the Ayatollah Khamenei, designed it. He knew that people would try to get a deal. And so he decentralized the power to now the IRGC. All these little groups are running it. All right, Lawrence, we wore you out today.

Yeah, you did. I'll see you in a little while. You got to be ready for anything. I'm so glad you took the shower before. Right?

So you're ready. I wanted to be fresh. Back in a moment. Politics, current events, and news that affects you. Brian's got a lot more to say.

Stay with Brian Kilmeade. A talk show that's real. This is the Brian Kilmeade Show. Yeah, it was pretty crazy. It was great seeing NFL football back again over the weekend.

So many great games. Look at the way the Bears scored. Not many people thought they was going to score 60 points almost. And the Giants win late last night was pretty impressive, especially what I love to talk about how far we've come since the George Floyd ridiculous riots and Kaepernick taking a knee. You watch cops and firefighters, the NYPD hats back on people, back on Coach Harbaugh.

And then in the second half, FDNY, you saw the big American flag and you saw the tower lights go flying up in the middle. And I just felt really good about the fact that that whole defund the police movement is truly behind us. And we know how stupid that was. Hopefully one day we'll realize very soon how bad the defund or abolish ice movement is as well. But then yesterday the Giants go out and with their brand new head coach, they put a totally different brand of football and beat up the Cowboys, something they rarely, rarely ever did.

The Jets actually won. And then, you know, with the Knicks as champions, those two winning, the Yankees are the second best team in the American League. This is the first time New York sports has been good in quite some time.

So that's a bit of a relief. The other story is Tom Tiffany. Do you see this guy? He's a congressman who's the Republican nominee to be governor of Wisconsin. His plane actually crashed.

Oh, unscheduled water landing. He's able to get out of it. They survive. They get in the wing. When the plane sinks, they're able to swim to shore.

That is one scary scenario. When we come back, Paul Sperry joins us. This reporter has the latest on the Gitmo detainees. And will they ever face justice? And how the worst of the worst might actually be getting out.

Scary, right? A radio show like no other. It's Brian Kilmeade. Hey, welcome back, everyone. This is the Brian Kilmeade Show.

fellas, thanks so much for being here. We have coming off just a few days after 25 years since the 9-11 attacks. As I mentioned before, it was great to see the commemoration on MetLife. You know, it wasn't too many years ago. They were taking a knee in condemning America, led by that idiot, Colin Kaepernick, who's got a book out I hope nobody buys.

But joining us now is Paul Sperry, senior reporter, Real Clear Investigations, Hoover Institute media fellow. Paul, welcome back. Morning, Brian. It's been too long. I know.

But Paul, you always do such great work, always so insightful and groundbreaking, one of which is, you know, I did an interview on Friday with the guy, the last guy to interrogate Khalid Sheikh Mohammed. All they did basically in the FBI is say hello, and he confessed to everything. A to Z, did absolutely everything over at Gitmo. Would you actually talk about some other prisoners at Gitmo, just as bad as Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, you could argue, and they might be getting out? Yeah, absolutely.

So, yeah, so I wrote a couple pieces for the 25th anniversary focused on Gitmo, you know, how many terrorists are left there and what they did and exploring the issue of justice for the 9-11 widows and survivors. And what we found is that the place has all been emptied out of its 780 prisoners and only 15 remain there. and Gitmo's parole board wants to release at least another three of them, even though they were originally classified as the worst, the worst forever prisoners. And it's just outrageous. You know, the parole board, this military parole board has bought into their sob stories, you know, spun by their defense attorneys.

You know, they just want to go back home and get a job and support their families and not attack us again. You know, they no longer hate us. But our own military intelligence documents, you know, how one in three go back to terrorism. And two-thirds of those recidivists are still at large. And they've never been recaptured and can attack us again, especially if they've been transferred to Afghanistan, where al-Qaeda has reestablished at least six training camps.

So that's just putting us all at risk of another attack. No kidding. And the thing is, who's doing this? The biggest mistake we made is giving these guys lawyers. Why do they deserve a lawyer?

These are prisoners of war. But one of them is this guy, Jamal al-Sadr. You mentioned he's a committed. I remember when he was captured. This guy's committed to al-Qaeda.

No sense that he regrets anything that he did. And did you say that these guys might even want to finish out their days in Gitmo if they had their druthers? Oh, yeah. I mean, this guy, Ossatter, he was actually quoted, you know, this is in his dossier, that he wanted to go back to killing Americans, men, women, children, and babies, he said, and even threatened to cut off a guard's head.

So we're going to let this guy out. He's slated. You know, once they find a, quote, unquote, appropriate country that's going to treat them, quote, humanely, that's what they're interested in. Uh, there, you know, this guy is set to, to be paroled, to go be transferred to one of these countries. Um, there was another guy, Duran, he said he was going to fight until his death for the jihadi cause.

You know, that guy's not rehabilitated, reformed. And, you know, another guy, you know, he was an explosives expert for Al-Qaeda.

So, you know, release that guy. What's he going to do? He's going to go out there and train other terrorists in explosives. It's just, it's crazy. But, you know, if you say, hey, it's too expensive, let's find out a way to maybe make it less expensive.

You're keeping a whole prison open for 15 guys. Maybe there might be something there, but bringing them stateside does not work. And that's with the Khalid Sheikh Mohammed. We found out last week they're going to throw out his confession because they say it was too close to when he was a victim of enhanced interrogation. That was the CIA, even though the FBI took him five years later, said the same exact thing.

Yeah. And in terms of trying and executing the KSM, other 9-11 co-conspirators, they're just kicking the can down the road with this new promise of a June 2028 trial. I mean, it's two years away and they're their defense lawyers are bleeding heart lawyers. They're just going to drag it out even longer by filing motion after motion, appeal after appeal. and this new judge has already ruled like you said that prosecutors can't use evidence obtained from cia black sites and by the way this guy this he's the fifth presiding judge down there the military tribunal in gitmo yeah and to show you just how absurdly slow the wheels of justice have turned he was in college on 9-11 he was like just a teenager so the other thing that i think is a constant struggle and if you see some of the videos on 9-11 there were these pro-palestinian pro-islamic groups that were protesting against us on 9-11 protesting against the firefighters and cops on 9-11 and you write in one of your columns about islam's rise across america are we asleep at the switch again yeah although at least the republicans are waking up to kind of a broader threat going on with Sharia law and the spread of Sharia law and Islamification of our towns and cities and culture and politics.

It's really, there's a concerted effort, very organized through the Muslim Brotherhood. And they've built up a huge infrastructure going back decades where the majority of the NGOs for Islamic NGOs, like Council of American Islamic Relations. And the mosque as well, the largest mosques, are all controlled. This is all documented by the FBI in court cases. And yet we've really done nothing to roll it up.

And Republicans are sounding the alarms this year. but this is really the first time that we've seen any type of effort to roll that back. I've been, you know, sounding alarms myself with books, infiltration, Muslim mafia, about the role that the Muslim Brotherhood is taking, like a fifth column in this country. But they have really gotten emboldened.

Now they've got candidates for Congress that are really viable and could be elected. and have access to Homeland Security committees, intelligence committees, have access to classified information. Yeah, classified information. There's no doubt about it. And the other thing to keep in mind, too, is that when Trump first came in, he says, enough, no more Muslims, and that caused a total panic.

But now he is pushing back. And I know in Texas, for example, they stood up and were protesting. They had some churches there were pushing whatever that church is, mosques. They were pushing Sharia law in different communities. We're pushing back against that.

And perhaps maybe if anyone wants an example, if you just lay back, look at Europe. We're seeing Europe and Germany and we see what's going on in London. There's people just said, OK, these are refugees. They have no place to go. They come into a country and they're looking to take it over.

Yeah. Yeah, Western Europe have got now, I think the last figure was over 900 no-go zones across Europe. And yeah, UK, the two largest cities now are controlled by Muslims, Birmingham and London. UK is gone. They're lost.

And, you know, so Republicans are blowing the whistle. Let's not let that happen here. Yeah, we have a much smaller percentage-wise share of Muslim population here, but it is growing through immigration and birth rates. And, you know, Trump, to his credit, has tried to slow that down. But it's kind of a runaway train because, like you said, we've been sleeping the switch for so long.

Paul, how are your stories received when you put them out? Do you push back? oh yeah oh my gosh um but you know a lot of uh um you know amplification as well on x yeah um i'm at uh at paul spary underscore if uh folks want to go there and check out a lot of uh uh of my stories on this that are posted on there so when you look at this mayor in new york city when you see some of the Democratic Congress the candidates around him I mean that pretty much what they ran on I mean you watch the way they condemn Israel You know exactly where they stand Yeah.

So, Ma'am, Donnie is, you know, City Hall now, the executive offices are pretty much controlled now by Muslims. He's appointed. We did a story at Real Clear Investigations, looked at all the appointees there, and several of them were alumni of the Council of American-Islamic Relations, which really helped get him elected, supported him financially. And a lot of them have high-level jobs now in the administration, So one of them is going to control who gets appointed municipal judges in NYC.

So you talk about infiltration, but elections have consequences. And everybody's been focused on how he's a socialist, but I think the larger threat there is who he surrounded himself with. You know, a really intense Islamist activist in his administration. I'm just wondering if we're going to take action against these organized institutions like CARE. I mean, where's the investigation on CARE?

I don't know what's going on with the federal level, but Abbott and DeSantis, Texas and Florida, have declared them a terrorist organization. And they're going to try to roll up their property, you know, and looking at their nonprofit status. and I don't think yet the IRS is looking at that. That's all they have to do is stop them from, you know, their status as a nonprofit and exposing their funding.

So, I mean, at least two large states are trying to do that and without care in the mix, I don't think there would be a lot of ability for, you know, especially politically now, because CARA has gotten so involved politically. You know, they have this goal to put at least 30 Muslims in Congress. There's four there now sitting Muslims in Congress. They want 30. They want them in the Senate and throughout the government.

And this is supposed to be a Muslim rights group, and they're getting so involved in politics. I mean, they're crossing the line in seeming violation of their IRS 501c3 and 501c4 status, and yet no one's really looking at them in a way that's really investigative, even though the FBI has cut off all ties to them. I mean, it's like, well, why are you cutting off ties?

Well, they're connected to Hamas.

Well, Hamas is a U.S.-designated terrorist group. If they're connected to a terrorist group, why aren't you shutting them down? Good question. And that's the way you write them. Paul Sperry, senior reporter for Real Clear Investigation.

Go to realclearinvestigations.com and find out more. He's also at the Hoover Institute, where he's a media fellow. Paul, thanks so much. I appreciate what you're doing. Great talking with you.

My pleasure. You got it. Listen, when we come back, we'll be able to squeeze in some calls, a lot to go over. 1-866-408-7669. You listen to the Brian Kilmeade Show.

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so your seat was damaged by iranian fire and yet you still were able to eject safely i was did your parachute deploy my parachute was damaged in the the initial attack at one point when i looked up and saw no parachute that was the most it was the most terrifying thing i've ever seen so i paused right then and i prayed lord you will be done but if i'm getting through this i need help while you're in the air yeah is that almost like free falling or how would you describe that free falling is a good way to put it. I wasn't focused on the speed at which I was falling. I was instead focused on trying to correct the problems that were in front of me and doing anything I could to unfurl or pull pieces of the parachute loose. In SEER training, so survival, evasion, resistance, escape, we're trained to work through problems, not only through the ejection sequence, but any survival scenario. And under considerations for parachute malfunctions, I never want to become a victim of my circumstances.

And so I'll take the circumstances for what they are, and then I'm going to keep moving forward in them. And that's what I tried to do in those moments.

So they had 60 minutes, had the interview with the chopper pilot. They got two went down. One was able to get out of there. The other one was, had a broken back, sprained ankle, broken arm. And that's, I know that was, so that he was the one, the co-pilot who had to scramble one seven something like 700 feet uh into a mountain and then hit in a crevice and then set out a signal to try to get some help here's more cut 59 so how fast do you think you were going when you hit the ground professionals based on my description and the injuries that i had the professionals think i hit the ground going somewhere between 170 and 100 miles an hour.

How did you survive that? A modern day miracle. I believe that it's a testament to God's provision in my life to bring me through that moment in a way that didn't prevent injuries, but prevented any catastrophic injuries that would have affected my ability to survive. And I'm grateful eternally for knowing that he was there with me. Because you don't see any other explanation for how you survived?

I don't think there can be. And I think the facts around my survival, the facts proven out by my medical records, the facts proven out by the equipment that was still there. I think they all determined that that is true.

So I don't know how you move with the broken back. I guess the severity of which is just crazy, but when your shoe doesn't open, usually you don't survive that.

So he did and still had to go up this incredible mountain, cut 61.

So he quickly made the decision, despite his broken bones, to hike and climb up a 7,000-foot ridgeline. Given your injuries, how did you find the strength to make it up the mountain? Never let a lack of motivation put you on Iranian TV. You were thinking that. Absolutely.

Given the terrain that I faced, I think you'd find it surprising what I was able to go to overcome given those injuries. But I did it because of a warrior ethos that we talk about. My airmen that we led in theater had months of hearing about the importance of warrior ethos and how we are going to apply it. And I saw them apply that in the lead up to the conflict, during the conflict, night after night with unprecedented threats against them. And yet they're doing their job at a way that no one would have thought possible.

I owed it to them to show the same warrior ethos in my situation and walk the same walk that I've been talking for months. As much as you can tell me, did you, you started to find a place to hide inside the mountain? What was your objective at that point? My objectives were to get away from my landing site and then find the best concealment I could in order to do the other things like communicate, consider my equipment, move up. But the specific elements of tradecraft or what I did, I'd rather not talk about given the security concerns of an ongoing conflict.

That's pretty amazing.

So that was, I don't know how 60 Minutes got that, but that was good. especially considering that President Trump has sued them and they went back and forth. But they got the exclusive story on on that on that rescue. But I will say this after that rescue, the president was so freaked out over the weekend. I think it played into the fact that we ended up shutting the war down, going into talks.

And I think we left a lot of targets unsaid, undone and allowed the Iranian sadly to regroup. And now we're it's much tougher to take the rest down. I'm not sure the president really wants to do that.

Some of your emails came in over the weekend. They're all over the place. But some of the topics. How about this? Charles writes, why doesn't anyone investigate the news where they do an investigation on environmental impact of shipping manufacturing over to China, which produces inferior products?

Good point. Brian, did I hear you on your Sunday show say that Dave McCormick said he spent $500 million on his campaign? That's ridiculous. He should spend that money on giving individuals who don't have money, even food. A couple of things.

Campaign and feeding people have nothing to do with it. He said combined, it was $500 million. That's what it has to take these days to unseat somebody like Senator Casey who had been there forever. From the Fox News Radio Studios in Midtown Manhattan, it's the fastest growing radio talk show, Brian Kilmeade.

So glad you're there. It's the Brian Kilmeade Show coming to you from midtown Manhattan, heard around the country, around the world. Julian Epstein, a Democrat who is really disillusioned with his party. To put it mildly, he'll be joining us at the bottom of the aisle. Michael Goodwin standing by as a New York Post columnist.

And he talks about a lot of what's going on in the political landscape, as we will be discussing, you know, as we talk about the 25 years since 9-11 attacks. Cartened by what I saw last night at Giant Stadium. MetLife Stadium, I should say. Jets play there, too. when you saw the beams of light come out of the middle of the field and you saw the NYPD hat on John Harbaugh switch to the FDNY and you saw the chorus from the cops and firefighters sing the national anthem, the big flag go out.

It shows you we've beaten back the Kaepernick kneel big time.

So I think when you look for good signs, that is a good sign. They're not all good, though.

So let's get to the big three. Number three. The Houthis are only saying that it's unrelated to what we're doing with Iran. That, of course, is a lie. Secretary Rubio even hinted at this.

He said, look, the Houthis are supplied by and funded by, probably directed by, the Iranian regime. Rebecca Heinrichs with me on Fox and Friends. Iran war gets more complicated as the Houthis and Saudis bloody each other up. And it affects oil flow big time as China helps Iran hit our bases. They need to be, that needs to be called out.

Number two. If on October 10th, those Democrats are still leading their races after that onslaught, I think this is going to be a ban or a cycle for Democrats. But these next few weeks are crucial because the money is finally here for Republicans. Yes, there you go. Jonathan Martin, I meet the press.

Midterm mania has both sides look at the upside and downsides with the polls say. We look at all the factors. Number one. I really don't know the details of foreign policy, as it were, But I do hope that the people in China who are looking at the same problems as we are, so they're trying to build the same technology, will come to the same conclusion that it has to be done in a measured manner. Jacob Coxon, who quit Anthropic because he didn't like the direction it was going.

And we also know that China is not far behind in the AI race. AI hysteria kicks into full gear from the CEOs in charge to the politicos also who want to get out in front of this.

Meanwhile, administration cautions not to overreact because China will not let up. You could be sure of that. Michael Goodwin, New York Post. Michael, first off, do you smell politics a little bit or legitimate concern among AI leaders?

Well, look, I think there is a bit of both, Brian. Politics, of course, is never far from any controversy. There are always two ways to look at it, right? One that favors Democrats and one that favors Republicans.

So I think that there are actually in this case, there are very legitimate differences. Are we racing over the cliff or are we racing into a bold new future? Yeah, I mean, we're seeing all of a sudden everyone come down on this. Dario Amodi comes out and says for too long the industry lied about the AI risks. Really?

Over the last few months, I've become convinced that we have to fully address the risks required. To do that, we have to acquire even more patience. Then Sam Altman comes out and says, I agree with Dario that we need to pace this frontier. Elon Musk says, applauds both. And I'm thinking to myself, okay, well, maybe there's legitimate worry.

And maybe it's a little legitimate. And then I hear that Hakeem Jeffries was told by Barack Obama over the weekend, make this your number one priority, the threat of AI. And of course, data centers cut six. We should take decisive action now so that we can slow down as the CEOs have recently acknowledged, slow down the pace of development in order to protect the American people and ensure that AI is proceeding safely. Right.

Okay. It sounds reasonable. But if you actually want to tank the economy in the stock market, you tell every all the AI stocks, shut it down or cool off. That literally is fueling the economy right now. And who would benefit if the economy, if the stock market tanks, Michael?

Well, sure. In the run up to the election, stock market tanking, if oil prices were to continue to surge, of course, this would be the party out of power, meaning Democrats in the midterms. And so it's part of politics in the sense that you're looking for that edge. But I do think that you also have to have a credible story. And this idea of just slowing it down, I'm not sure what that translates to in practical terms.

Because China won't. We know that for sure. That's right. There's another way to look at it. President Trump says we have to win this.

what the thing is about china in particular uh the only thing that they might be open to is that they're about control and when you show someone you have 700 agents or 100 agents that you create to do a task just to test and it turns out these agents start communicating with other agents say you have no relation to and they plot and plan uh to survive and turn on the internet and things to that nature and the scientists behind it say we didn't plan on that at all i mean that's that is alarming i would imagine well all you have to do brian i think is think in terms of uh china and iran right how it's helped iran against the american military how it sort of kept iran afloat all these years by buying us oil. But I think we can never trust China. I think that we need to look at China today the way we looked at the Soviet Union during the Cold War. I mean, there's very little common ground. We should, of course, take advantage of whatever common ground there is, but we shouldn't assume that our interests coincide.

Let's talk about your column. You said the left puts another smear campaign against Trump spreading hate on 9-11. How do they do that?

Well, in that part of the New York Times talking about how the Islamophobia is sweeping America now, just as it did after 9-11.

Well, look, you and I, Brian, both know there was no Islamophobia eruption after 9-11, and there certainly isn't one now in New York City with the first Muslim being elected mayor. Oddly, the Times cites no statistics in any way to back this up, and only cites Muslims saying so. And then the second issue, Brian, is the way when President Trump and Pete Hegseth talked at the Pentagon on 9-11, they talked about the war in Iran being a continuation of the war on terror. And it is. It very much is.

It has been since the 50 years when Iran kicked out and took American hostages and set up Iranian proxies around the world to kill people, including our own president, including other Americans. And, of course, the Hamas, the Houthis, all of those groups, Hezbollah, that are funded by Iran.

So this idea that somehow the war in Iran is not part of the war on terror is crazy. It's because Iran threatened to build a nuclear weapon and to use it against America and Israel. Yes, it is very much a continuation, and President Trump has said that, and he gets now ridiculed because the left somehow doesn't believe it. I don't know what they believe, but they don't believe anything as obvious as this. It's shocking.

And the thing is, Iran played a big role in 9-11. Remember, they held the Bin Laden family. They supplied a lot of logistical support for the hijackers. Remember, they also supplied support and intelligence for the embassy bombings as well as the coal bombing. Were they predominant?

No. Did they play a role? Absolutely. How many Americans did they kill in Iraq? Right?

So how do you not see this as a continuation of the war? As I say in the column, it's only willful. It is only a desire to hate everything Trump does. You don't have to agree with him. I don't agree with him on a lot of things.

But you can't just throw out the facts that are so obvious and have been obvious all along. He made it very clear. He did not want to go to war. He wanted a negotiated settlement. But he couldn't get one.

So right now we look at the generic poll and the CBS poll has a 10 point gap between Republicans and Democrats. They usually with the Democrats with the advantage, they usually spells trouble for the party in power. Do you think things will change much by if that if let's say this poll is accurate? Who knows? Do you see much change by Election Day?

And if so, what would what is up for grabs? You know, Brian, I think that the time is running short for a positive change. I think any change in the circumstances between now and Election Day might be worse. For example, gasoline prices, the economy in general, inflation seems to be easing its way back in.

So I think right now the odds, I think, pretty much properly reflect the public mood. You can see the same trend in the president's approval ratings and that sort of thing, the idea that the country is on the wrong track. And I think that the Republicans have an uphill battle, and they can hope for a miracle, which is economic and Iran. But Iran knows the calendar better than most Americans when it comes to how can they affect the election. No doubt about it.

So there's a report today about the New York Times. It was actually done by Yale, a Yale professor. And they said, how did the New York Times handle the Gaza war? His name is Adil Pinker. They published this report.

They looked at 1,599 stories. stories. They concluded the coverage was considerably emphasized Israel's military action and Palestinian casualties while paid almost no attention to any Israeli losses or the reason why the conflict began. The study found personal accounts of Palestinian suffering appeared far more than any comparable accounts of anybody hit on October 7th or any of the IDF soldiers that were killed. Does that surprise you at all that the New York Times was in bed with the Palestinians?

No, Brian, because there are two words. You used to work there. The first is genocide, which the Times embraced as what was happening in Gaza, which is obviously a lie. And the second is starvation, the idea that children were being starved. The Times ran a picture, which it then had to correct.

So it was wrong, both in the granular details and in the big picture. But I think it is a continuation of anything that smacks of the West and America. The Times hates it. Remember the Nicholas Kristof column that Israelis had trained dogs to rape Palestinian prisoners? Scientists laughed at that.

It's not possible, not physically possible. But that's a Times story, and it's stuck to it. Yeah, and this guy's been disgraced.

So Bill Maher, who seems to be on the money, look, I think what makes him credible is he's still a Democrat. He's still a liberal, but he can't understand what's going on with the party and the anti-Semitism. First off, this is his clown, Macklemore, a guy I never listened to, but opens up for Ed Sheeran. Cut 55. Free Palestine.

I said free Palestine to all of my Jewish brothers and sisters. Criticism of Israel, criticism of apartheid, being against genocide in no way is a criticism of you.

So I say free Palestine. I say free Lebanon. I say free Cuba. I say free Congo, free Sudan. free all people in America living in fear over this terrorist organization, ICE.

So, I mean, can you think of a bigger idiot? Imagine being in a concert hearing that. Right, that's the left. Yeah. ICE is terror.

But Cuba, wait, wasn't that the Soviet Union took over Cuba? Wasn't it socialist to ruin Venezuela? I mean, what was it? Isn't Hezbollah taking over Lebanon? Isn't Hezbollah taking over Lebanon?

Yes.

So I want you to hear Bill Maher's reaction. Cut 56. Macklemore spoke for all clueless celebrities when he said, I know enough to know this is a genocide. Actually, you don't know. It's not.

It's not a genocide. It's a counterattack in a war based on the ridiculous premise that Jews don't belong in the one place on earth they are indigenous and indisputably their ancestral homeland. Gaza equals genocide is a lie, an easily provable lie. And the fact that so many prominent Democrats go along with it is, to me, the party's worst moment since they undid Reconstruction after the Civil War. Nice shot.

People don't realize that, but that last sentence is 100% true. Yes, yes. What's that line, Brian? The line was, they undid Reconstruction. They haven't seen the Democrats so angry since we freed their slaves.

Yes.

I mean, that's sort of what he's hearkening back to by mentioning Reconstruction. Thanks so much. Appreciate it, Michael Goodwin. My pleasure, Brian. Thank you.

You got it. This all plays into the midterms. And, you know, a lot of people think you got to be, whatever you do, be anti-Israel if you want to be successful as a Democrat. But would he want to be as successful as a person? And I hope in the general election you pay the price for that.

When Bill Maher speaks out, I just hope that people realize he's not a Republican. He's not a moderate. He's a liberal Democrat who can't recognize these issues as part of his party. Julian Epstein has something similar to say at the bottom of the hour. I'll play that for him, too.

We have some more of Bill Maher's monologue.

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You're with Brian Kilmeade. I won't lie to you. There are real dangers. And I think for too long, the industry lied to people about the fact that this technology had risk. I don't think I fully just appreciated what it would actually be like when the progress was as fast as it was.

So we're an exponential curve looks a little like this. Where are we on the curve? We're kind of on the bend where it's starting to get steeper. It doesn't mean we need to panic today. It doesn't mean we need to shut it all down.

What I would say, it's a warning sign. It's a warning sign that we need to slow down.

Okay, slow down. The problem is we're in competition. And that's Dario Amodi. He's the Anthropic CEO and co-founder, which people have warned me about too. And I see politics in this.

When I see that Barack Obama told Hakeem Jeffries flat out, make this your number one issue. And then we go ahead and we've got to bring that forward, demand an emergency meeting in order to find out what AI is capable of and how it's stealing your jobs. And, of course, the data centers is the subset of that.

Now, is he really concerned, like, for example, about terrorists amongst us? Is he really concerned, like, for nuclear energy or something about the dangers of a nuclear power plant? I think there's a 5% chance of that. I think all this guy sees after going through a bunch of fundraisers is, how do we stop this economy?

Well, it's being fueled by AI. These companies are allowed, David Sachs and others, to not deal with the regulation that normally accompanies crypto, that normally accompanies AI. There was hamstringing it under Biden and said, why don't you go ahead and reel that in? And if these CEOs decide, hey, you know what, I'll freeze it for a while and I'm a little nervous about this or, you know, I don't want to get on the wrong side of Democrats. Guess what happens to those stocks and the overall economy?

I've also been told by Anthropic has on its board Mike Morrell, John Brennan and David Cohen. David Cohen was at the CIA under, guess who, Joe Biden. Does that play a role? Mike Morrell is the one who round up those 50 plus scientists to say this. The laptop was classic Russian disinformation.

Radio that makes you think This is the Brian Kilmeade Show. When I ask those people, okay, would you consider a Democrat? By and large, what they say about them is, never mind the economy, they don't think the Democrats agree with them on cultural values. Right. And you get these really big numbers.

So when we talk about whether or not they'd stay home, It's because the Democrats haven't sufficiently lured enough of them back over the economy, notwithstanding. And that's one of their that's one of their challenges as well.

So there you go. That is Anthony Salvato. He's been in here before CBS pollster, new director on on election.

So for the polls leaning towards Democrats. But who really knows the generic ballot? Fifty four forty six in favor of Democrats. When asked why are you voting? Why Democrats were you voting for?

80% say they're voting against Trump. That's the reason they're voting. When asked to GOP, who are you voting for and why? 61% said they're voting for a Republican because of Donald Trump.

So that is, Trump is still very much a part of this. He says, pretend like I'm on the ballot. Democrats say, yeah, please do that. Right now, if CBS made a conjecture, they said the election was today. They believe the House goes to Democrats 228 to 207.

Let's bring in Julian Epstein. He served as chief counsel to the House Judiciary Committee, a longtime Democrat, who is disillusioned, to say the least, with the direction of his party right now. Julian, first off, do you think the RNC, that midterm convention, do you think it was successful? Maybe on the margins with some of the folks in the base. But what Trump needs to be doing is reaching out in the political center.

And I think with more traditional Republicans who are disaffected and making the case about what he's going to do if he can hold on to the Senate and to the House. And I don't think I don't think Trump is doing that. I think there is an effective case to be made on Iran. I think there's an effective case to be made on tariffs and the economy and inflation on education, on health care, sort of on a lot of issues. But housing, for example, I mean, there's just such a great contrast with the socialists.

We want to Republicans as a normal normie party can be saying we want to build. And what the Democrats want is a takeover of housing by the government. I think there are really effective contrasts that the president could be making about where the Republican Party is, is a normie party against the democratic party, which is increasingly a socialist, Islamist party, um, that is governed by these, you know, sort of socialist millionaires. Um, and I don't think he's making the case. I mean, he came out and said there, Kai, you use the term communist and crazy.

You don't think that's specific enough? No, no, I don't. I think he's squandering the opportunity. I think you have to say, ryan that with respect to iran which people aren't happy with you know if iran gets preemptive ballistics and nuclear capability um it is going to change the world in a dramatic way and it's going to harm the united states in significant ways both economically and in terms of our security and i don't think he's making that case and then i think on the economy um i don't i think he initially made the case about leveling the playing field for working class voters with the terrorists I don't think he's making that case now. I think the Iranian squabble is silly and unnecessary.

I think it's an unforced error. And I think there's so much he could be saying, you know, in health care, for example, you know, Obamacare has failed in so many ways. It's led to more concentration and and of power amongst health care providers. And I don't think they've talked about the competition issue at all. And they ought to be talking about it.

The Wall Street Journal has a great piece on that this morning. Again, I don't think they're painting the contrast about what they want to do on housing. I don't think they're painting the contrast about what they want to do on education. Look at the PISA scores that came out last week about the dramatically falling test scores, not just the United States, but around the globe. And look at what the Success Academy has done in New York in terms of what their scores are producing.

It's remarkable. And the case that the president could be making just on things like education choice right now that he's not.

So I think it's a muddle. I think the midterm convention was more show than substance. And I think the president is squandering an opportunity here is, again, as the normie party to make the case as to why they should continue another two years. I want you to hear Mike Lower. He seems to have a much better handle on the case.

George Stephanopoulos went at him, but without any success, cut 26. Akeem spent a lot of time in the last segment railing about Republicans. Both of us are from New York. Democrats control everything in New York, and yet we have the highest tax burden, the worst business climate. We lead the nation in out migration.

Utility costs are up 58 percent in New York because they shut down nuclear power, block natural gas, ban pipelines. People are leaving in droves. I agree there's an affordability crisis and there's a lot we have to do as a country, whether it is permitting reform on the national stage, whether it is tackling our broken health care system. You know, since Obamacare took effect, premiums are up 150 percent.

Something's obviously not working.

So we have to put the rhetoric aside, the nonsense aside, and actually focus on addressing the issues facing the American people. Stephanopoulos had almost nothing to say after that.

Well, you know, Congressman Lawler is correct. And that's the point that I'm making to you. I think the Republicans have a more popular argument to be making on energy, on health care, on housing. You go on down the line, but I don't hear that coming out of the White House on a day-to-day basis. I don't see that as a well-orchestrated campaign.

And again, if you ask people in the street what the Democrats stand for, nobody can tell you what they stand for other than a bigger welfare state, grievance politics and identity politics, and sort of bad energy policy that has driven up the costs, particularly in blue states. The case is there to be made. I just don't think the Republican Party is making the case that effectively right now. No, I hear you saying, I think you're right. And obviously, the hard part is the oil and gas.

They have been drilling like crazy. They have been maximizing they have been deregulating but that's been nullified because the iran war has dragged on so long and now they have the houthi rebels on the other side trying to cut down uh the strait over in the red sea so that could bring bring it up to more than a hundred dollars a barrel which is you know which which is going to be problematic uh here is the president yesterday on iran cut 40 we recently reported that chinese entities may have provided iranians with satellite imagery of the air bases. They do what we do. They basically do what we do. Are you going to raise that with Xi when he visits?

I think he's behaved reasonably well. And we behave reasonably well. You know, when they say that China spies on us, I say, you're right. And we spy on them, too.

So, I mean, to soft pedal what China's doing, they've given logistics, going to the Wall Street Journal, giving the logistics to our base is killing our guys. Certainly blowing up the bases. No question. They're giving satellite intelligence and other intelligence to the Iranians. And the Chinese have a lot to gain if Iran gains a stronger control of the Persian Gulf and surrounding areas.

Look, I don't think the president can make this case as he's walking out to the helicopter or as he's doing these one offs. I think this is something he's got to address in a prime time, you know, address to the country and really make the case as to why this is existential for the United States, that Iran not get this kind of preemptive power. We're going to see an October surprise, Brian, I guarantee you. Iran is going to go after the Saudi pipelines. They're going to go after the desalinization plants in the Mideast.

If they do those two things, that changes the equation. They have this asymmetric advantage where they can go after enough of the infrastructure of the Gulf states and make a really, really big impact such that the Gulf states will sort of pull back. And, you know, you hit the desalinization plants, people can't live, they can't get water in places like UAE and Saudi Arabia. And these are targets that Iran is going to go after. I guarantee you there will be an October surprise from Iran that will try to close the straits, as you pointed out, in the Red Sea.

That'll go after some of these civilian energy infrastructures in the Gulf states. And the president has got to prep this country to say, look, this is the fight that we're up against. We are fighting evil here. And again, I just don't think these sort of, you know, these these Oval Office meetings where he has people, you know, industry executives coming in, these one offs in front of Marine One. I don't think that's an effective communication strategy.

I think there's there are high stakes right now. I think Republicans, as I say, I think they have better arguments on the cultural issues. I think they have better arguments on the economic issues like energy. but the way Mike Lawler made that case that you just played is not coming through I think to the general public I don't think there's any doubt about it I like to see a much organized way I know the vice president's going to get out there he's going to go to the battleground areas and he should talk about that too and I think you can point out the socialists and the whole the way they are unabashedly say when they get rid of the senate the way they say they were going to dissolve prisons they do not back off that at all so and as long as you say big tent you're included in that conversation. The other thing that I disagree with the president on is what he said over in Ireland that he told Zelensky, I want you to hear this, cut 51.

Mr. Zelensky has to do one thing. He has to stop knocking out diesel fuel in Russia. Let him go after targets, but not diesel fuel, because he's causing a shortage of diesel fuel. This isn't done by the Middle East.

This is done by what's happening with Russia and Ukraine.

so we spoke to mr selenski about it there are plenty of other targets don't hit diesel fuel because that's hurting that's hurting the world we don't want him to hit diesel fuel he's got to hit diesel fuel they got to do what they can to stop that war machine and if they told us to get out of the straight because it's making the price of oil go up we would not get out of the straight we blockaded it to put pressure on iran i don't think we could ask the ukrainians to back off Russia. Yeah, I don't get that either. And I think, you know, Ukraine has made has had such a successful, you know, six months, particularly with their drone technology, which they're now becoming a global leader in. Look, I don't think that I don't see that situation changing in Ukraine much before the election. And again, I just think this is something where if you're the American people will make sacrifices.

I mean, Ronald Reagan knew this better than anyone else. American people will make sacrifices if you make the case to them. But I think you've got to sort of make the case as to why what we're doing, particularly in Iran, is so important. And I think, you know, the Ukrainian situation is becoming sort of intractable right now. And I think that's nothing we're going to see a solution on before the end of the year.

If not much longer than that, you know, and your big your big 10 point. I mean, it's ironic, Brian, that the Democratic Party can make room for a congressional candidate who defended and was a was a character witness for the blind sheik, who a mayor who has a as his general counsel, someone who defended Al Qaeda. We can make room for all of these Islamists and sort of people who identify with terrorists, but they can't make room for John Fetterman, whose major sin is defending the most progressive democracy in the Middle East. It's not a big tent. It's not a big tent.

It's a big tent lie. And it's a big tent that is welcoming in parasites into the Democratic Party that want to destroy the body, the corpus of the Democratic Party.

So, look, I think you've never had a better contrast between the normie party and the extremist party. The normie party, I think, being the Republican Party, the extremist party being the Democratic Party. But that case is not being made. The president is not effectively communicating and he needs to. Or I mean, I think the House is probably gone.

I think the Senate stays Republican. But doesn't have to be. Yeah, I just think the Republicans are really underperforming as we get into the second week of October. But I want to give you some hope. Bill Maher, Democrat, liberal.

I don't think he even is a moderate. Pointing out anti-Semitism, not OK. And genocide, not correct. Cut 57. There were three million Jews in Poland before World War II.

After 45,000, that's genocide. If you're one of the many people these days asking this explosion of anti-Semitism around the world that we see, where is it coming from? This, this is where it's coming from. Because if you really think someone is committing genocide, of course you have full permission to hate them. And history shows for whatever reason, when it comes to hating the Jews, people don't need a lot of permission.

Well said, right? Very well said. But, yeah, I think the population in Gaza in 2023 was 2.1 million. I think today it's 2.2 million. It's the only genocide where the population actually grew.

Look, the reason that the left uses genocide and apartheid is because if you call a group of people genocidal and say that they're practicing apartheid, then you make the case, the obvious case.

Well, they shouldn't exist. They're an evil country. If somebody's practicing those things, they shouldn't exist. we should get rid of them. And that's exactly what the left is normalizing.

The left is normalizing the pretext for getting rid of Israel by saying these things. And these things, you know, the apartheid lie is clearly, you know, anybody that's ever been to Israel know that's a lie. There are millions of Arabs that are living in Israel happily and that defend Israel. They participate in the army, they participate in the highest echelons of the military and the economy there. And the genocide lie is just, you know, there's no country in the Middle East that does as much as Israel does to warn civilians in a war zone that strikes are coming to try to get them out of the way.

It's completely the opposite of what the terrorists do, which is try to put civilians in the way of in harm's way. It is it is a lie that a that the tick tock left has perpetrated for one goal and one goal only, which is the eradication of Israel. And much of the Democratic Party, you know, to my dismay, is is normalizing this. Julian Epstein, thanks so much. Appreciate it.

Brian, thanks for having me. You got it. When we come back, we'll have more. Don't move. Both sides, all opinions.

It's Brian Kilmeade. breaking news unique opinions hear it all on the brian kilmeade show you actually think slowing down is a good idea when china will not this is the thing that most puts us in a bind it's not about commercial competition this the geopolitical situation is the hardest to deal with. But I will talk about two strategies that we have. One, and I talk about it in my proposal, is we can slow down within the margin, within the envelope that we have, particularly if we don't sell chips to authoritarian countries, and if we do more to help our own security so that our technology is not stolen. I believe that will buy us at least a little time.

so they don't like the idea and i don't like it either that we're going to be selling nvidia chips to china and that's what he was trying to say why are we doing that so if you're worried about china catching up why are we doing that you know the theory behind that the theory was according to jensen wong was if we don't do that china will just innovate their own and somehow some way they'll eventually be able to catch us if we continue to supply them with chips not the highest level but close they won't feel the need to manufacture themselves that's an interesting theory i never heard of it before in in like well we just got this great weapon hypersonic weapon let's share it with china so they don't make their own i mean i i don't even understand that because jensen wong looking to maximize profits but he was beside himself he says this is all nonsense with all the you know in you know anthropic and everybody else getting together including open ai and saying we'll slow down if you slow down nvidia ceo jensen wong says it is nonsense this is to scare you this is a ruse wow and we have also david sacks saying something very similar no one's stopping you from slowing down david sacks is urging anthropic and open i just stop pretending you need someone else's permission to be responsible saying their push for government intervention could be seen as just another bid for regulatory capture or an election season psyop. Keep in mind, David Sachs is no hard core Republican. He just seems to like Trump and helping out Trump the best he can. Joe Lonsdale feels the same way, the Palantir co-founder. He says, calm the fears.

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I had no idea it was worldwide. I mean, I knew the radio broadcast was national.

Now it's worldwide. I get a little buggy inside. No, no, it means it means that people in Israel and around the globe can actually order your book. That's the most important thing. Love that.

Right. That's the most important thing. Listen, Israel and other places in the world, tracegallagherbook.com. And you can go there and then you can see all the events and all the things we're doing. And you can order the book from there.

So this is one thing I'm in awe of. I said the same thing to Ainsley, I think it was two years ago. She wrote a book about her, about things that she did in college and everything. See, it's easy for me. I have a book coming out called United in the States, The Six Crucial Moments that Fords the American Revolution, American Miracle.

But it's not about me. Like with you, Trace, I don't know if you realize it. This is about you. You're on the cover. It's a great picture, by the way.

Oh, thank you. I appreciate that. But it's a lesson you learned along the way. It is. You guys talk about yourself a lot.

But it's also not about me. I mean, it's about the people that gave me this wisdom. I mean, it's people that are famous and not famous and people that actually gave me wisdom because wisdom, you know, the right guidance, as you know, Brian, if you're an athlete, whatever it is you do, the right guidance can change your life for people. And I talk a lot about this. I was just telling you about the John Wooden story.

There's a little story in there about John Wooden. I was 14, 15 years old, and I went to a small high school in Northern California, and they wanted you to play three sports. And I was – as a young child, I played football. I played baseball, right? I played football in college.

but i i needed to play basketball for i would for a class of 570 okay right um and we had two we had a town with two high schools you you were hopeful to make one team they were asking you to play three sports i can't imagine three sports that's right three sports because we had 240 kids in the whole school wow so we had to play three sports and i was terrible at basketball and i thought if i could go to that john wooden basketball camp man i'm gonna be so great Because Wooden at that time had just won 10 NCAA championships in 12 years. But the camp was 500 bucks. And my dad said, it's a bunch of money, right?

So he says, you get half, I'll get half. We get the money together. I go to the Wooden camp. We walk in the gym. And five seconds after we sit down, out walks John Wooden, the Wizard of Westwood.

And every kid in the building just jaw dropped. And he taps the microphone three times. And he says, boys, I want you to sit down. He says, and take off your shoes and socks. You should have two pairs of socks.

Take the first pair and put them on inside out, and then you take the second pair, you put them on the right way. And then you tie your shoes up nice and tight. And if you do that, you won't get blisters because you cannot play good basketball with blisters. And John Wooden turned and walked off stage. We never saw him again.

Right. That was it. 500 bucks. Were you mad? No, I was just baffled.

Like, what is that about? I just paid 500 bucks, and that's the wisdom I got. But then you dig deeper, and you realize that John Wooden wrote the pyramid of success. And John Wooden has all these tips for how you live a better life, how you get to success. And then you think that was the best.

And I still wear two pairs of socks to this day when I'm playing racquetball or playing tennis because he's right. And that's the whole thing. This is just stories like that, a book full of wisdom and people that I've met who have done fascinating things and had an enormous impact on me. Right. That's awesome.

A couple of things. The one thing about him talking about details matter, right? Every little detail. I remember Coughlin, when he was at the Jaguars, used to demand that they walk out to practice and walk the white lines and then cross in one by one and out of stretch. And they go, what is with this guy?

He said, from day one, we have to do it right. Buck Showalter, when he launched the Diamondbacks, same thing. Everything had to be right, the right color in the dugout. And you wonder, what's he worried about the dugout? Just get yourself a cleanup hitter.

But the little things matter.

Well, you know, John Wooden is Bill Walton. He was a senior at UCLA. Bill Walton walked in. He had a beard. and coach says practice bill in 25 30 minutes you got to get that thing shaved off there's no beards here he said coach i really like it and the press tells me that i look good i think i'm gonna keep it he says well we're gonna miss you bill we're gonna miss you this year he was already going he's gonna be the number one draft pick and and john wooden was serious when he said you're not playing on my team with a beard and bill walton walked in shaved it off he was back on the court 10 minutes later with no beard right and he always yeah he was with him the rest of his And he was with him the rest of his life.

That's the whole thing is, you know, John Wooden died at 99 years old, four months before his 100th birthday. And I was anchoring Studio B at the time when the bulletin came across. And it was John Wooden. And they said, hey, you want me to give you some notes on John Wooden? I said, no, I'm fine.

I can ad lib about this all day long. But that's the whole thing. You're like, wow, 99, four months before his 100th birthday. And my lead was, I'm just glad it's not basketball season because that would have broke his heart. wow good point yeah that is awesome so so uh just talking about your book for you i know just because i know you're a really good athlete quarterback played multiple positions on the football team you're also a uh you're also a water skier so that's a water skier so that's pretty amazing so then you want to okay have a week sports i'm going to go to an elite camp so how much does sports figure in your book well you know there's a lot of it there's the water skiing because it's interesting because you know it's there's not a lot of people that made a living water skiing and i was one of them and it was i was a show skier and the more things you could do if you could do front flips and back flips and back barefoot water skiing and you could do all these things it was worth an extra 20 25 bucks a week you know so you could make some real money if you could do all these things so we killed ourselves learning how to do all these tricks right i mean there's a story in there about me learning front flips and i would go or the i mean the skis were six feet long and if you would underturn the front flip, the back of the skis would slap you in the butt.

And you know, you got to do a hundred of these things before you make one. And so by day four, my butt was black and blue. By day six, it was eggplant purple and I kept putting ski, water ski vests in my wetsuit on the backside so I could pad the skis from hitting me. And there's a line in the book that says, honestly, when I made my first front flip, there's a picture of me skiing away where I looked downright Kardashian because I had so much padding in the back of my wetsuit. It's a true story.

Football, Brian, I was a quarterback in college. My first start ever as a quarterback, my first two passes were picked off for six. First two passes. I literally came off. I couldn't breathe.

I mean, I was looking at my dad in the stands, and my dad's like, shake it off. You're going to be fine. It's fine. And you go to the sidelines, and you sit, and nobody wants to come talk to you because they know you're just devastated. And they're mad at you.

Yeah, and they're mad at you. And you're like, you're killing us, kid. You kill us. And then you had one of this is a story about this guy who was Ambus Frazier, big guy, black guy, six foot four, 290 pounds. Greatest guy.

He passed away a few years ago. He walked down to me. I played in the high school all-star game with him a couple, three months earlier. And he walked over to me. He called me Mammoth because that was my hometown.

I had a Mammoth thing on the front, and that's how he knew me. He said, Mammoth, he says, you know, you need to lead this team. You can lead or you can move on. But you could go out there and lead this team. And it meant a lot to me.

And you go back in the thing, and we ran the ball for a while. Puncher's like, maybe we shouldn't pass for a while. We ran the ball for a while, but then you get into a groove and you start throwing it. And he's right. You've got to lead.

You've got to forget about the mistakes you made, and you've got to step forward. I mean, showing up is 98% of the battle.

Okay. In a way. Talent. A little talent. A little bit of luck.

A lot of luck. A little talent. and, you know, some wisdom is a little bit of it. That's a little Woody Allen mixed in there, too. Right, right.

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And we have been very deliberate about this. I mean, right after I became speaker almost three years ago, We put together a task force, bipartisan, a large group of members of the House. Both sides of the aisle, it worked deliberately to look into and research and debate and deliberate over what's the best way to do this.

So Speaker Johnson caught a little off guard by the amount of hysteria around AI all of a sudden. The CEOs of these companies, some workers of these companies coming forward, and now it's the number one issue. Should we slow down? And will China cooperate? And what will they say in a couple of weeks when they come here?

Joining us now, we're still with us, Trace Gallagher, the author of a book that comes out tomorrow. Turns out they were right all along, Life Lessons I Learned Eventually.

So, Trace, did it catch you by surprise at all, the amount of mania right now around AI? It did. And really, honestly, Brian, I think the scariest part of this whole AI thing, and people are afraid of it, is not the AI. It's the politicians getting involved with the AI. I mean, really, that's where you think, listen, the guys, the Elon Musk guys, you know, the guys who are actually saying, yeah, we should slow down, should slow down.

If you want to slow it down, slow it down. But but you don't need to get the politicians involved. You don't need to stop everything, you know, because we do have this race with China going on. And the truth is, what we're worried about is not suddenly that these machines are going to become evil. I mean, Kurt Knudsen, that the cyber guy was telling me, it's not that it's not that the machines are suddenly going to turn evil.

It's that the machines are going to go after human goals, even nefarious goals at record pace. And we don't have the bandwidth to stop the machines from doing that. That's the big concern here.

So the question is, so we give the we give our agent an objective. What that agent does to achieve that objective, we did not know. Evidently, the experts did not know would collaborate with other agents unrelated.

So Trace Gallagher's got an agent. Yeah. Brian Kilmeade's an agent. You're 3000 miles away.

So when they decide, they're looking around for agents. They decide there's something about Trace Gallagher's agent that could help Brian Kilmey's agent achieve its goal. And they have a bulletin board, and they start working. And there's even if you teach the agents ethics, which, believe it or not, these artificial intelligent figures, these ethics, they could still be corrupted by other agents that don't have those ethics, almost like a hall monitor that gets convinced by the bad guys to be one of the gangsters. It's exactly right.

And then you have these agents and what they did is they actually got onto the Internet. And when they get onto the Internet, they glom in. And the fear is, whoa, whoa. We told them they were not allowed on the Internet and they said, guess what? We're going to do what we're going to do.

And that's the scariest part about this is that these guys are looking, Brian, for vulnerabilities in the Internet, looking for vulnerable things that they can actually go after and control. And that's what the big fear is, is that the vulnerabilities are so many. I mean, the Internet is replete with all these things. And if AI goes out there and then grabs hold of these things, the question is, can we pull them back? Do we have the means and the technology to pull them back?

And the answer right now seems to be no.

Well, yeah, but David Sachs, for example, probably knows more than anybody else about this, about the processes and what AI can do. And he's saying, why do you want me involved? Why do you want the government involved? When I'm looking over our shoulder to regulate it. But how much do you know about this in order to do it?

I mean, there's only a handful of people that can tell you what's next. Which is why the Internet has taken so long to really regulate, because the lawmakers have no idea what they're doing. There's no nobody can explain it to them.

So you're going to let a bunch of Congress people who have never done technology, for the most part, start controlling technology. It's a bad idea. It's a bad idea to get politicians involved because it's going to become partisan and it's going to be unhelpful and it's going to make the situation worse because what they'll end up doing is they'll end up, you know, giving a woe Nelly to the whole thing. And then technology will will hit a brick wall. And China in the competition in A.I., China is going to keep doing it.

China might say, oh, no, yeah, we're the same. We're going to slow down. They're not. They haven't given us any of the Wuhan virus, the whole where did the COVID thing come? What's the origin of that?

I mean, China has not played on a level playing field in a very, very long time. And who says they're going to start now? Here's Dario Amodi. He's the Anthropic CEO and co-founder on that very topic of 15. Do you actually think slowing down is a good idea when China will not?

This is the thing that most puts us in a bind. It's not about commercial competition. The geopolitical situation is the hardest to deal with. But I will talk about two strategies that we have. One, and I talk about it in my proposal, is we can slow down within the margin, within the envelope that we have, particularly if we don't sell chips to authoritarian countries and if we do more to help our own security so that our technology is not stolen.

I believe that will buy us at least a little time.

I don't know. The chips thing seems personal because I think he's talking about NVIDIA. Yeah. Decision to push the president to allow them to sell chips to China. But he's in essence saying, oh, I think they'll be on board.

It's the same thing as, you know, thinking, oh, no, no, China's not really helping Iran. They didn't really help Iran and that thing at all. Of course they're helping Iran. Of course, they're doing things that we have asked them not to do. And it's going to be the same here.

They want to win. I mean, she has made no bones about the fact that he wants to win. He wants to control everything. And that is the way they will approach this. They're going to say, yes, of course.

Oh, my goodness. We would never help Iran. Never, ever would we help Iran in the meeting. And yet, boom, there's the evidence they're helping Iran. The CIA knows this.

Mossad knows. Everybody knows this. And if you think China is going to play ball, you're not you're just not looking at China's history. And the only thing that has come up and I talked to Tristan Harris about it. You know, he's a guy that knows everything on the outside.

And he just says the only thing that could get China worried is that they like control. Like they don't want Twitter. They don't want Facebook. They don't want they want to control their population. You give these people control of this.

Are you kidding me? it's hard enough for the government to control it, let alone the people control it. And they do have well-educated population. Right. And go back.

It is impossible for the government to control it. The government's only way to control something is to stop it. That's the only remedy they have. And that's what will happen, as Bernie Sanders is already saying, we need to stop this whole thing. We need to do a full stop, period, and then move on.

Right. And that's kind of where we have left ourselves.

So Trace Gallagher's book, Life Lessons, I learned eventually, If you're just tuning in now, the book comes out tomorrow, but it's available for people that know Trace now. Yeah, everybody who knows my name can pre-order it right now. TraceGallagherBook.com. Right, so we'll catch you today on some of the podcasts tomorrow. When can we see you?

Fox and Friends. Right, Fox and Friends in the morning. Fox and Friends in the morning, yeah. Trace, the other thing would be where do we catch you to get a book signing? I'll be at the Reagan Library in California, the Nixon Library.

We'll be at the Villages in Florida. We'll be in Palm Beach in Florida. This is all coming up late September, October. We'll be in Vero Beach, Florida. We'll be in Los Angeles, a couple of places there.

We'll be in Alabama. Just check TraceGallagherBook.com. It's got all of those things on there, all the locations, the book, how you get it, all that good stuff. All right, so Trace, it's going to be out. Do you think this will be a movie?

I think this could be. It's 32 different stories. I think this could be a long Netflix series because every story in there has some wisdom. It's a great, compelling read, and they could be 32 different stories. For one, very quickly, just if I've got two seconds, there's a story about me playing high school baseball, right, in a town that gets 500 inches of snow a year.

And we didn't have a baseball field, or we did, but it was covered with snow. and the coach, my high school baseball coach, without a baseball field, it's called Dreams of Field. He's from Iowa, right? And the baseball coach came, and in 25 seasons, he took his team to the playoffs without a baseball field 22 times. The story's going to be detailed in your book.

In the book. 32 chapters. It goes really quick. It's very well written. Trace Gallagher, thanks so much.

We'll watch it tonight. Thank you, Brian. Fox News Tonight, right? Thank you, Fox News Tonight. You still got to do your show.

I got to do the show. Absolutely. We're going to do a little bit of news and a lot of book promotion. I'm kidding. That's great.

We're doing all news.

Sounds good to me. All right. The talk show that's getting you talking. You're with Brian Kilmeade. The Houthis are only saying that it's unrelated to what we're doing with Iran.

That, of course, is a lie. Secretary Rubio even hinted at this. He said, look, the Houthis are supplied by and funded by, probably directed by, the Iranian regime. And so this really is a part of the Iranian strategy to open up this other front and to further squeeze global energy supplies. Because the Bala and Mandeb straight, not as much global energy passes through that as the Strait of Hormuz.

But we need oil to flow through there because the Iranians are trying to restrict flow through the Strait of Hormuz. This is just another front that the Iranians are opening by supplying the Houthis. This is still the same war and it's still the Americans' problem. And that is Rebecca Heinrich from Hudson. She really knows her stuff, been to the region multiple times.

And we also talked about the fact that the president asked Zelensky not to hit the refineries over in Russia, have to be able to hit the refineries over in Russia, even if it brings diesel up. That's on Russia. Dr. Kanta Ahmed joins us now, senior fellow of the Independent Women's Forum, member of the Council of Foreign Relations. Dr.

Ahmed, welcome back. Pleasure.

So we the Houthis start a bomb, the pipeline that Saudis were using to bypass the strait. And at the same time, they're trying to take over islands and control the Red Sea, where we use a lot of our oil to transmit. They contact the president at some point reportedly and say, we don't want you to bomb us.

Well, our problem's not with you. It's with the Saudis and with the Yemeni government. I don't believe them because the problem is with us because we're affected by this, right? Yes, and I think, Rebecca, I would agree with. This is synchronized.

Even though the Houthis are rather independent, their interests often overlap with Iran. That pipeline that's been shut down was Saudi Arabia's go-around for the choke point of the Strait of Hormuz from Abqaiq to Yambu. And that's where the very large crude carriers can come down. But they need to go out through the Red Sea. They're too big to go through Suez.

And that now has been compromised because the Houthis have grabbed about 2000 miles plus coastline of Yemen and critical islands in that opening at the bottom of the Red Sea towards the Indian Ocean. The king of the crown prince of Saudi Arabia has called President Trump apparently twice asking to resume strikes against the Houthis. President Trump made an agreement with them about a year or so ago and they had some kind of understanding. The United States has not acted.

So we're seeing oil that has already peaked at one hundred and nine dollars a barrel. And we don't have room for maneuver. We have to have decisive action to reclaim that opening at the bottom of the Red Sea. Yeah, I mean, we got it on the Houthis. Who were you saying?

I think that's part of it. The other thing is many of the drone strikes on the oil infrastructure are also imperiled coming from Iranian aligned Iraqi militia in Iraq. That's where those drones came from. Saudi Arabia has said we're not going to strike on Iraq at this time. They're in dialogue.

And the other element that's very worrying, Brian, is the United States is about to take every last soldier out of Iraq.

Now they're only in Erbil in the Kurdish area at the end of this month.

So we're leaving yet another vacuum where extremism can take root. And that is imperiling our ally Saudi Arabia and jeopardizing energy infrastructure, which is already under pressure. Yeah, I mean, it doesn't make any sense. That was something that Biden agreed to do.

So why does the president feel obligated to do it? Great question. Let's ask the president. And he's very committed to this because he's already brought to zero the $61 million funding of the Kurdish Peshmerga. They are our number one allies fighting ISIS and radicalization.

They've taken 150 strikes from Iran into their territory since the start of this war. And that's a policy that's being very much embraced by Ambassador Tom Barack.

So President Trump needs to look at that policy immediately to strengthen the Kurds, because otherwise we're going to have wholesale strikes from Iraqi territory that are servicing Iranian interests and damaging the Iraqi people and the Saudis and U.S. interests. I mean, if we told the Iraqis we're not going anywhere until you sought out these militias because it's not going to, because it endangers our security, that would get their attention. Great, absolutely. And we did the opposite.

The U.S. has decided to take out troops and said on the same day, these militia that are Iraqi nationals but affiliated with Iranian regime need to disarm. Please disarm.

Well, that's not going down very well. They have refused to disarm and the U.S. has already set a date to exit. This reminds me of the 2011 in Iraq when we couldn't extend the status of our troops. There was a vacuum and that led to the development of ISIS.

And there's one last element. I know we're focused on the Red Sea, but over the last, over this weekend, we've had again al-Shara's troops terrorizing the Kurdish people in Kobani, where they've got a standoff. It looks like the beginning of what happened to the Druze and the Alawites under al-Shara, threatening, eliminating, murdering Kurds and absolutely terrorizing the minorities.

So it's a very big picture of receding American influence and rising belligerism from the extremists. Right. It doesn't seem to make much sense. Here's more from Rebecca Heinrichs on the Saudis. Cut 45.

The Saudis will get some greater resolve. They'll find their spine to be tougher when they know that the United States is completely committed and is unwavering and understands that this is our fight as much as it is theirs. This is what has happened time and again with the Gulf states, Brian. They get stronger and more courageous to fight back more when they understand that the United States is not going to surrender. We're not going to hit the brakes.

We're not going to do something like the MOU that we tried for a few weeks, but the Iranians didn't abide by it. while that allowed for, you know, Iranian oil to get back on the market. We're done doing that. President Trump was right to say we're not going to do that again. That making that commitment and committing to the Saudis is how you get the Saudis to push back and take care of this other front that's been opened by the Houthis.

You agree with that? I do. I mean, we're seeing actually a discrepancy. Look at how bellicose the United Arab Emirates immediately was in response to the Iranian assaults, which deliberately targeted the Emirates. Saudi Arabia has tried to be more balanced, but it is absolutely enraged.

It has been so damaged by this conflict. And it is tremendously well-equipped. It is running sorties. But when it asks the United States, please come in and bond the Houthis, our ambivalence about that is very damaging. The Saudis are very well equipped, very highly trained, and they aren't just protecting the oil infrastructure or their nation.

They are the homeland and the epicenter for 1.6, 1.8 billion Muslims around the world.

So we don't want to absolutely show any gap between our alliance and the Saudis. And that is the time for President Trump to act now. We can't be wavering on this. The other thing to mention is because of our ambivalence, Saudi Arabia also signed a Mecca defense pact with Turkey and Pakistan, and they're not coming to the rescue. Saudi Arabia did not call Ankara or Islamabad.

They still call Washington. And this is our moment to strengthen the confidence in US security guarantees for the region. That made sense. That agreement made no sense to me because Turkey and Pakistan are tied with Iran. Saudi Arabia needed something to counter Iran.

So it made sense if you look at the Turkish interests, which are to expand the market for its defense products. Turkey has given has got a free pass and is actually having a whale of a time with this administration because we've handed over influence of Syria to Turkey. We never contest any of Turkey's interests, including sacrificing the Kurds. I always bring it back to that. And Pakistan, I know very well as a child of a Pakistani family, they have to have shared interests with Iran.

They share a massive border with Iran. They are concerned about refugees. They have major trade agreements.

So Pakistan was never a good arbiter or negotiator for this. And that was probably based, if I was to guess, on the relationship between President Trump and Field Marshal Asim Muneer. It's good that our commander in chief has these relationships. But we have to look at these mediators much more critically. I mean, the minute that when we see oil go over $100 a barrel, which it is, it's really related directly to the Red Sea.

so the president's going to realize that i mean there's that there's no gray area you can't say well it's not our fight it is our fight because it's affecting us so unless they're going to give up these islands we're going to have to take action and the president's already shown that i think he bombed the houthis for what 45 straight days a 52 yes so um so i i would agree with you brian and i think the president trump we know is capable of of many things at the same time though Certainly his focus and the focus of his party is on the midterms. And we are energy independent in the United States. But this global instability is very risky. The other concern I was reading about this morning is the Straits of Hormuz are also a choke point for the world's helium supplies that we need for semiconductors and data centers. And they are almost drained out of their storage.

So we're going to start to see huge impact on our ambitions with AI and other semiconductor chip critical industries.

So it's going to come back to haunt us. And this is the moment to act. I'm deeply affiliated with Saudi Arabia. I live there. I have many friends in the region.

We have to stand firm with them and reclaim the opening to the Red Sea. But one last thought. Yeah, but I just want to add something. They stopped two actions. We had much more aggressive actions.

and the Saudis twice denied us base basing rights and spoke up and said, you know, let us deal with it. That's at least two other times, right? There was also Project Freedom that President Trump wanted to send the ships close to the Saudi coast. I understand. But between alliances and between friends, we can forgive, we can move on and we can regroup.

And the circumstances have changed.

So I think that's the response to this. But this is a moment also I would like to see, and we have seen coming over here, but I would like to see the entry of Somaliland, which is the game changer. The United States must recognize it as a sovereign, independent state that is right next to Djibouti, that is right opposite the Babel Manda. That is where the UAE, with Israeli support, has built significant military installations. And from there, you hammer the Houthis and open up the Red Sea.

That's what needs to happen next. We're 45 miles from where the Houthis are located, right? It's very small dimensions, yes. But all of this is the same theme. The United States is hugely powerful.

There is nobody that rivals our economic power, our military power. We have a very empowered commander in chief. But without nurturing and strengthening our allies, we cannot secure these massive problems. And securing Somaliland, securing the Kurds, securing Saudi Arabia isolates Iran, which I do think is close to crumbling in terms of its economic survival with Scott Bissendt's economic warfare on the country.

So we can't be ambivalent now, midterm or no midterm. This has to be absolutely point of focus. I think everything you said is 100 percent verifiable. It's not only your opinion, it's fact. It's really the way everything knows.

And you know the relationships better than anybody. But I would hope, number one, I was just curious what you thought about that Wall Street Journal story that talked about the president of Iran thought the MOU was holding up. And the IRGC was holding it up. And they said out of nowhere, the Iran bombed three separate ships or tried to bomb. And the president said to the IRGC, Vahidi, what did you do?

He goes, we didn't do this. Evidently, it was just a faction within the IRGC that bombed on their own because they didn't want the MOU to happen. That was the best deal Iran would get ever, and it was terrible for us. But I thought to myself, did they not realize that?

Now, I always think that they like to play good cop, bad cop. But I'm wondering, is that possible that there's a division within the IRGC just acting on its own?

so i have no way of knowing inside to that degree even with my relationships in the region but i think it is possible i think that one of the effects of decapitating uh the initial the ayatollah then layers of military decapitation which israel achieved very systematically very emphatically is that there are pockets now where there may be religious sorry excuse me not religious nationalistic military fanatics that believe in the fight to the death. And you have bureaucrats, for instance, the president who actually wants the war to end because of all of the consequences he is seeing. Who knows? Maybe they think we're playing the long game and we'll wait for other American administrations.

So I can see that there could be a dichotomy. And what I also worry about is this is draining so much American attention in terms of the focus on Iran that we're not looking at the overall status of the Middle East. What is going to happen to Iraq when every last American soldier has left? All of that funding for the Peshmerga now goes to Baghdad, who has never been friendly to the northern Iraqi Kurdish area. That could absolutely damage a place that is thriving, where they preserve human rights.

They have 30% of their parliament is female. And what is happening in Syria where our eye is off the ball there because we want that problem to go away. But al-Sharah's troops are more and more emboldened against minorities, including Christians. There are so many moving parts to this that the need to achieve a definitive end to some of this disruption is only increasing. Right.

You need Rubio and all his disciples, not Steve Witkoff and Jared Kushner doing this part time. You need somebody to bring in. We have some of the most remarkable foreign policy experts in the world. We need to bring giants like Brian Michael Jenkins to come and advise the president. People that have studied and understand insurgency warfare for decades.

We have the talent. They need to reach the ear of the president. I hear you. Dr. Kanta-Akman, thanks so much.

Brian, a pleasure. Back in a moment. Real talk, real guests, real insight, where curiosity meets conversation. It's the Brian Kilmeade Show. He's so busy, he'll make your head spin.

It's Brian Kilmeade. Hey, we are back. And just a quick announcement. I have a United States coming out. It's going to come out August 13th.

Excuse me, October 13th. August. I wish it was still summer. And it's going to be the six crucial moments that forged the American miracle. And I think you guys are going to love it, especially because it is year 250 of the country.

So I've talked it out after doing 68 different individual 40-minute documentaries on what made America great and doing six other history books and talking to the most prestigious historians in the country, many of which are endorsing the book. I thought it would be a perfect time to come out with this book. And I think it's very readable and understandable, and there's going to be a Fox Nation special with it. But on the 16th, I'm going to be in Red Bank, New Jersey at the Hackensack Meridian Health Theater, the Count Basie Theater, I should say, October 17th in Westbury, Long Island.

So that'll be great. November 7th, I'll be in Clearwater, Florida the very next day. November 8th, I'll be over in Jacksonville at the Florida Theater. And the 21st, I'll be at the factory right outside St. Louis in Chesterfield.

So go to briankilme.com for tickets. You get VIP opportunities. It's going to be streamed on Fox Nation. Almost everybody that buys a ticket gets a book, and I'll sign all of it. And for the VIP, I was able to personalize and get it through.

It's a fun, informational, entertaining, patriotic night. And I think that we really enjoy doing this over the last few years, but I'm totally revamping the show for this new book.

So hopefully I'll see you all in person. Go to BrianKilmead.com. You're listening to The Brian Kilmeade Show. Keep it here. you