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So, Secretary Howard Luttnick. A day like this, 25 years since the 9-11 attacks, of course, you're going to be out and commemorating it. But Howard Lutnick, the businessman. Most processes a lot different because you were running Canada Fitzgerald at the time. and you lost 658 of your employees, including your brother.
25 years later, how do you process it?
Well You try to think back and like now, because I'm here, like I physically have goosebumps standing here because behind you, these are all my people. This is all their names. And my brother's right over there, and it just. It's just such a part of me, and I still can't believe it happened, right? How can you lose?
everybody you work with. And by the way, if you lose everyone you work with, you don't know how much you care about them. But if I took everybody you work with away from you, you know what you'd do? You would cry. And you'd cry for years.
I cried. until October 21st. 2004. I cried every day for years, and I remember that because as I fell asleep that day, I said to my wife, you know, I didn't cry today. And she wrote it down.
years because it's you can't process all those people dying. You just can't. And also, the process of someone like you who would have been here at what 7:30 in the morning, a plane hit at 8:46. You weren't here because. I was taking my son, Kyle, my oldest son, to his first aid kindergarten.
He was five.
Now he's 30. Right, so I was dropping him off at kindergarten up on 90th Street. and my phone kept ringing. And I was thinking, I can't believe my office can't just leave me alone to take my son to school. Right, as it turns out, I later learned it was my brother trying to call me.
An administrator came in and said, You know, a plane has hit the building, Mr. Luttnick. And I said, All right, I gotta go. But I thought it was like a small piper cub, that kind of thing.
So I left. Got in my car. and immediately went to as soon as I could see the buildings. and I saw there was smoke just pouring out of the building and that the one with the antenna on the top is mine. and we saw a huge hole.
and the smoke pouring out of that building and I was like, My driver starts crying hysterically. I'm like, we gotta just get there. Our guys are getting out, they're just getting out.
So I went. to the building. And I stood outside the building, like right over there. This is where the building was. This is the building.
So I was standing right over there, right over there. Try and there's a doorway and I knew there's a dozen doorways.
So I knew if one person came out on our floors from that door, they were coming out of all of them.
So I was grabbing people as they came out the door asking what floor they were on. And the highest floor I heard anybody was the 92nd floor. Where was Canopus Gerald? 101st to 105th floor of the World Trade Center. The highest floors, the most beautiful views, incredible offices.
That ended up being, you know, horrible. Nobody survived above 94, was it? No one could get out, and so no one got out of my building. You know, it was horrible.
So I heard this sound. I'm standing like right over there, and I hear the loudest sound that I've ever heard, and I don't know what it is.
So I used to take off running that way. It was that building. It was two World Trade Center. collapse right over there.
So I start running and for no reason I run that way. Because if I had run that way, I would have run into the falling building. I would have died. And if I ran that way I would have died. But I because I ran to BC Street, and turn the VC street.
I'm running.
So I'm running just like this. I'm running my tail off. But I don't know what I'm running from. And then I look over my shoulder. and there's a tornado chasing me.
Remember that black huge cloud? And it's chasing me.
So now I'm in a horror film. I was in New York on a day like today. Beautiful day, and now all of a sudden I'm transported into a horror film, running for my life in my suit and tie. and I dive under a car. And then the world just turns black.
So when you come here, as people don't know, the memorial has every name of their lives who lost that day. And this is this is your brand.
So what I love about this memorial is it's physical. Right, so every time like before before I saw you I came here And I just give my brother, you know. A rub like this. And I Yeah, this is my best friend from college. The gardener Right?
Guy ran North America, Joe Shea, and his brother. Danny Shea? This is my roommate from college's brother. But this is my pal from college, my roommate from college brother. We had a rule at the firm.
Let's hire the smartest people we know who we like. And anybody.
So your friends, I want to hire you friends who are winners. Right? My friend's winner, you got a relative. Everybody.
So everybody's together. Right? And and that's what made it amazing.
So if you go all the way down this side, To here. My brother right here. all the way down that side.
So if you go to that corner, it starts with Abate. The Abate Brothers, A-B-A-T-E. That's the beginning of Canon Fitzgerald, this whole row. this whole row and all the way down this side. Until you see the last name on this list is Chuck Zion.
Nothing's alphabetical in between, but the Albate started. and Zion ends it and everybody's together with the people they work with. The people they were related to, the people they're friends with. 658 names. Two sides of this.
Pulverizing. It's just pulverizing.
So you mentioned your brother tried to call you when you were at your son's kindergarten, Harris Mann. But he did get in touch with your sister. He got my sister and she said, oh, Gary, thank God. Thank God you're not there. Right, because she was on the phone.
He said, no, I'm calling it from the building. I am there. And I'm just calling to say goodbye, I'm gonna die. And I'm gonna die, tell Howard I love him. You know, but I'm calling to say goodbye and I love you.
And then the phone went dead. And that was my sister speaking to my brother from the World Trade Center.
So twenty-five years later, How is it different from if I interviewed you one year later? Which, by the way, we were on the air at the time. Uh I might have been.
So how is it different today?
Well, I have I have more perspective. You know, it And at the end of the first year, I was... fighting for the life of the company. fighting to take care of the families, 658 families who are in dire circumstances, right? How can I take care of them?
I promised I'd pay for 10 years of their health care. We had to have a company survive to pay for it. I wanted to give them 20 years. I had to buy a company. There's only 200 people.
Everybody was killed.
So I had to rebuild it. I had to take care of these families.
So we were fighting to survive and fighting to take care of them. We ended up giving those families over the next five years $180 million. paid for their healthcare for 10 years, but that's what I was focused on then.
Now, 25 years later, I can look back and see that this... was an attack on Western civilization. They weren't attacking the people who worked in this building. They didn't know the people who worked in this building. They were attacking the World Trade Center.
Western Sensibilities, life, liberty, the pursuit of happiness, everything that makes America great. That was the attack, and that's what we know that they hate. And that's why we have to stay vigilant. And so, when we say never forget, what we're saying is never forget. How beautiful and important.
Our Western life, liberty, what makes America life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. Let's protect it, let's defend it, and let's never forget that there's people in this world who hate us. Just for that.
Well you know that. And I know that. And we used to all know that. But there's a lot of people who say we had it coming. Wow.
And what happened after, and what happened after our response. Was worse than their hit on us. What's your reaction to that? I think people are trying to change the narrative, to rewrite it. This is just the definition of evil.
You deserve to be have. 658 people murdered. Who you didn't even know who they were. They deserved to be murdered? Yeah, I don't think so.
These are people trying to rewrite history. because they hate America. Anybody who says it hates America. They want us, they are part of this. And that's what I think of them.
You say that, you are part of the killers of this, because that's who you celebrate. That's a personal attack, it sounds like, on you. Oh yeah. Oh yeah, and I I despise it. Have you thought about Have you thought about Why you survived?
Why You that day at 8:45 were not here, one of the few times. I know you sent for your son. It's his kind of gun.
Well, people talk about survivors more. Did you have any of that? Oh, of course I farmers killed. Of course I did, because why am I alive? But if I am alive, then I better make it valuable.
And I have to take care of these families. and I have to do everything I can to try to take care of them and make their lives better. And I've done everything I possibly could to do it. I mean, look at all these people. And these are my friends.
Yeah. Unbelievable. These are my friends. Are you a different person today because of this? Of course.
Of course. In what way?
Well Before Ah, yeah. You know, I was a successful businessman. trying to build a great company. And we had a rule that our company was different. We want to work with people that we like.
So we had a different view, so that's why these people are friends and they knew each other and they hired people they liked. But still we were just a company. And after that, after this event, we were a purpose. You know, we were a company that only cared about taking care of the families. Like that was the most important thing to me in the world.
was that I promised to pay for their health care for 10 years, I promised to give them 25% of our profits, and we darn well better have profits. And we ended up $180 million that we sent these people.
So they knew And then my sister ran the relief fund and my wife set up you know, groups and everybody to talk together and they and they all work together to create a community.
so that we could support them and show love to them and show them that we were in. Because my view is I got a lot of friends up there. And the best way to show someone you're their friend is to care for the people they love. And that was my calling, and I just wanted to take care of people that they love. Did the company come back as strong as it was?
So the company now is much bigger, right? It globally had about 2,000 employees. And we lost 658 out of the 960 in New York.
So we had about 1,000 in New York and 1,000 in the rest of the world.
Now the company has, I think, over 15,000 employees around the world, and thousands. I mean, it has more than 5,000 in New York.
So it's bigger, stronger. You know, and it's still tires Hit. Of people who got killed.
So, right next to my brother's name is Doug Gardner. His son who was born in 9-11, or born before 9-11, and just joined our company. Michael Garner joined in May. Wow. So how cool is that?
Like my best friend's son joins My boys. And my old firm. It's really, it's. It's the best. I hear you.
And then 25 years later, when they can read the names, for 24 straight years, they've read the names. I think that's a wonderful tribute. What do you think about when they read the names?
Well We honor those we lost and we showed their pictures. But we understand that when you see a picture of your loved one, you don't want it to just come and go.
So, what we do is we put it on this side of the wall and we run it. All the way across the wall.
So we'll have like six, seven pictures up at the same time.
So when my brother's name comes up, it's not Bat, because I I honestly, I just want to see him. And I love that we honor them and talk about them. And the families get up and tell stories. And it's our community. It's the community of people who care about each other after 9-11.
And you saw it. We'd have, there were a couple of family members here. They came up and said hello. And you see, they see how friendly and how warm. We are one.
We we work hard. Probably the most important thing to my life was taking care of those families and having them know. that I care about them. But the firm loves them, and they're always going to be there. And Howard, as everyone was coming up, different ways to rebuild.
and to commemorate. We have the two footprints. For people that don't know New York, like who know New York, these are the two footprints where the World Trade Center towers stood. and users are running fountain that continues. When you stand here and look up, can you still have your bearings about the way it used to be?
Sure. Sure, because I came here every day for decades. You know, I I walked in over there. Right, this is one acre. Right?
The building is one acre.
So this is literally one square acre. Right? The building went straight up. Right, we were the 101st to the 105th floor, so the views were incredible from any window. It didn't matter what window you had, you had the Statue of Liberty, or you had.
all the way down to Manhattan.
So we were here, so that was the road I came in and dropped off when I went in. This was the plaza here where everybody sort of hung out and had lunch. You know, for the people, I didn't have, I was working, but the people had lunch, so the hunger down here. The other trade center, number two World Trade Center was there. That's what we always called them number one and number two.
We didn't call them the North and the South Tower. When they first said the North Tower, I didn't know what they were talking about. No one ever called it the North Tower. Number one World Trade Center right here.
So, you work for a guy that does not have to have explained what it means. He's a New Yorker. The President of the United States. Have you guys talking talking about this? about what this day means for you and for him.
We have yet yesterday We were at the Tunnels for Tower event, where he honored Um The gentleman who had the red bandana. We went back and forth up and down the building, saving 18 minutes lives. And he honored them out on the ellipse, you know, so in the lawn outside the White House. And the president came out. And He's so kind.
He told the story of me. Taking my son to school. And that that's why I'm a lot. I mean, he told the story, so he... He is Look, he is incredibly kind.
Human beings. Most people don't see that.
Well, because they see the media, but you know, if you're sick, or something happens, he's the first person to call you. I mean imagine that the President of the United States is the first person to call your family and see how you're doing. He is a kind, warm human being. And After 9-11, he called me. And he was, because I've been friends with him a long time, and he was calling to check on me.
Can you do anything for me? I mean, that's a side that people have. You've been in a relationship before that. Oh, yeah, I've known him since I was 30, so that's 35 years. And he has always been a warm kind human being that's who he is right um And lately, there's been a story that the toxic chemicals and fumes that kill people after the attack was known to officials.
At the time, and they didn't go forward. Do you believe that? But look, I had...
Well, so remember, I came down. And I ran from that tornado of black soot. And then obviously I breathed it, right? Because I dove under a car and I was breathing that stuff. I ended up with non-Hodgkin's lymphoma.
So I had cancer. and that cancer, you are 200 times more likely to have that cancer. if you breathe the air. from that.
So You knew it had to be. It had to be bad for you. You just didn't know when it would come up.
Now, it came up, you know, and I got cancer at 20. Yeah, yeah.
So, think about it. Think about how much later it was. But 200 times more likely to get cancer.
So, the people who say, We got sick from it. Yeah. They got sick from it. How and Ludnick, thanks so much. 25 years since he attacked, and the good news is America hasn't forgotten.
Thank you so much. Thank you. Do you hear that? That sound, right? That means that summer's officially here.
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