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Me slow when network is busy. See terms. I'm not a fan. Lookies. Very smart, very charismatic.
Very good. Very good at politics. but I think the decisions he's making are very bad for New York. I think he's scaring away Discouraging, you know, you saw the whole video, I'm sure, with Ken Griffin's apartment and Ken Griffin is a massive driver of New York City economic value. about to make a massive investment in New York City.
With and he has this, you know, major presence in Miami, and now he's increasing the presence in Miami and diminishing the presence in New York. That's a disaster. I mean, all the various Things that Mondami wants to pay for. or acquire revenues. from the likes of people like Ken Griffin.
So if you scare away Ken Griffin. We discourage the Ken Griffins of the world from being in New York City. It's a disaster for New York. And what about Bill Ackman, a self-made billionaire? He was on the Money News Network making that comment about Zoramamdani just saying he's now have a Pierre Duterte tax, and now that's taxing people who have a second home, not primary home, over $5 million.
And he's bragging about it, saying, check your inbox. Your bills are now out there. Another 1.8% out of your pocket, another $45,000 out of your pocket, I guess, every six months.
So that's what he wants to do. He has no interest in retaining people. Remember, one of his original interviews, he came out and said, I don't think there should be billionaires. I'm pretty sure he doesn't think there should be trillionaires either, and I'm sure millionaires. But he has no idea what a threshold would be, as he says, working class, that we get free buses.
and uh get a rent freeze I don't think he ever thought that he'd have trouble getting free buses. I don't think he ever thought that the landlords would sue back, and they are suing him. William Moynihan writes for the New York Post and talked to another multi-millionaire, if not billionaire, in Charles Kushner, an ambassador now for President Trump. And he is now leaving New York City. Lydia, welcome.
Thank you so much for having me. Glad to be here.
So, I mean, it sounds like Bill Ackman's almost reading your column, only the words are Charles Kushner's, right? He's another very successful person. He is fed up.
Well, it's the sentiment that I think is felt among pretty much everyone who's paying taxes, which is a problem because there's really a handful of folks in New York City who pay the vast majority of taxes and they're increasingly getting fed up. And it's interesting.
So I spoke with Charles Kushner, who's currently actually in Paris, but he's in the process of changing his residency to Florida. He, of course, is Jared and Josh Kushner's dad. And he noted it's not even the socialist policies for him, it's the blatant anti-Semitism. And that's what's so interesting when you speak with these people. They're honestly at a point where they're like, you know what?
I'm fed up not with the horrible economics. I think they were willing to almost give Momdani a pass, but they're fed up with the fact that he's comfortable with blatant anti-Semitism. And he's sort of created this permission structure for violence against Jews. I mean, again, the notion that you have Yeah. As a mayor whose job it is to clean up the streets, to fill the potholes, and his whole agenda now is focused on arresting Netanyahu.
This is an insane focus for a mayor who should just be cleaning up the homeless encampment that's sprung up in the last few weeks.
So that's a huge frustration. And another thing that Charles Kushner told me is: you know, he's seeing the fabric of the city change. And so his point is: I don't want to be in a city with this mayor, and I also don't want to be in a city with the people who voted for him, which is a very good point, right? Because I think it's alarming to think. Mamdani has power because our fellow New Yorkers have given that to him.
The whole next generation, the twenty somethings, all are anti Israel and dare I say anti Semitic. You see the Columbia professors where his father, Mandami's father, was a teacher professor forever. And you see the anti Israeli sentiment. But Lydia, for everyone at home listening around the country, The economic engine of New York City has a lot to do with Jewish-run businesses. We bring so much commerce into this city and to this state.
Do they really want to get rid of $75 billion worth of business?
Well, it's going to be interesting to see the long-term impact of this because I think initially that the thought had been once he won the primary, we would see a flood of people leaving and then people who'd stuck it out, they would stay. But what we're seeing is people are continuing to leave the city, right? It's not just a one-and-done move. It's people saying, you know what, I've had enough. I'm fed up with this and lifelong New Yorkers.
And I think another thing that Kushner noted and other people I've spoken with as well noted with the Pieta Terre tax, and I think this is what's troubling. Look, a lot of these are really rich people. They can't afford to pay more taxes. But what's troubling to them is the element of sort of schadenfreude that Mamdani seems to get when he talks about taxing the rich. The way he sort of gloats about, oh, there's going to be one more invoice in your mailbox.
There's really, he's giving voice to so much resentment that clearly a lot of people in this city feel against the rich, but he's not bringing people together, right? I think if it was just about affordability, maybe some of these billionaires would be okay with that, but they are actually feeling targeted and they feel that they're not just being disrespected, but they're being forced out.
So, you know, what's interesting, you know, in September, the world comes here for the General Assembly, and Prime Minister Netanyahu will be here. In fact, he'll be here next week for a Lindsey Graham ceremony. And one of the first stories online with the New York Post, Mamdami is telling New Yorkers to take to the streets to protest Israeli Prime Minister Netanyahu when he comes to the city. And cops are weighing in, saying, wait, we understand protest. We never had a mayor tell people to protest.
You know what you're going to do? You're going to get tens of thousands, and it's going to be up to the cops who you vilify.
So control it all. Yeah, and I mean, even just on the ground, we're seeing cops are so much less inclined to take action because they are aware that Mamdani doesn't have their back. And isn't it interesting, Brian, that we're seeing on the left, whether it was Tim Waltz urging people to protest ISIS is kind of a new phenomenon that you're urging people to get more revved up, to get angrier. I guarantee you there will be some sort of incident. And then, of course, Momdani can capitalize on that.
But I think this is sort of the Israel derangement syndrome. Like, I'm not saying that Israel is always perfect, but there's so much vehemence directed just against Israel and just against Netanyahu. And you think Momdani was one of the first to call out Maduro for being arrested. He thought that was an overreach.
So he was upset when one dictator was arrested. He's been pretty mum on Hamas and any other war criminal, but for some reason, the one person he wants to signal out. And you think about all of the horrible people who come to the UN Assembly, all the people from Iran, people who have blood on their hands. He's not calling them out. It's literally just Netanyahu.
And I think so many of the Jewish leaders are just, they're getting sick of it. And keep in mind, he's socialist. But yet he can't tell anybody what the threshold is when your taxes go up. What is working class? And he said, anybody who works for a living, anyone who works for a living, you know those billionaires?
They probably work 60, 70 hours a week.
So he worked, they worked for a living and they pay their bills.
So here's a little bit more from Bill Ackman: cut 30. I hope Madani can be a better mayor. But ideologically, I I don't think I don't think socialism is the answer. The socialist and the Marxist experiment has. It's killed millions of people.
Literally killed nights of people. No, that's not to say that the points he makes about apartment affordability rents, etc. He's entirely right. But the way to solve that problem, you know, by freezing rents on half the renters. you're driving up rents on the other half.
Now there are buildings in New York that are comprised of rent stabilized units where most people got a two-year rent freeze. and free market units where those people their rents had to go up. in order for the landlord to cover their you know, costs that are inflated. because half his rent roll, you know, is fixed for the next two years.
So this is the way he is to solve the problem. Housing is a problem, but his way to do that is to freeze the rents, which is going to destroy the private ownership of these buildings. The landlords are going to be out. And Lydia, do you think it's his goal to have the city take over those buildings? 100%.
Yeah. I mean, the cat's very much out of the bag where I think people hear a few soundbites on his TikTok who aren't paying close attention. They hear affordability and there's something he says that resonates with them and they understand that message. But when you actually look at his agenda that he's trying to implement and the people who he's brought on, they very clearly want to abolish private property. I think this is what's so concerning is, and this is also why I hear a lot of business leaders who don't want to meet with him anymore because they think it's just a waste of time.
They think he knows exactly what he's doing, right? He doesn't want to actually make things more affordable. He wants to destroy Western civilization. You look at some of the people he's endorsed who have said that very thing, like Chevalier in New York. And so this, it kind of feels like he's on this mission.
There's nothing that's going to get him to stop that. And so, yeah, C. Weaver, his housing advisor, has notably said. She wants to abolish private property, and there's just no compromise. There's no middle ground that you can find with somebody who fundamentally doesn't believe in property rights.
And this is, I think, the challenge for anyone on the right: you can't find common ground with somebody who wants to destroy Western civilization, wants to get rid of private property. How do you possibly try and influence them? And I will say, it's funny, you know, Krishner noted to me as well, he said, Mamdani may provide one business opportunity. If he's kicked out in a few years, we're going to look at. Prices that are so low in the city, he thinks people will at that point be willing, if he's out, to come in and buy a lot of these properties that have fallen in value.
But one other thing that I would note, Brian, and you've obviously been very vocal about this, but yeah, his goal is to make things so bad that then the city can come in and make these purchases. And that's he wants more government in our lives because that's always the solution. The government just fixes everything. Across the country, United Health Group is working with local partners to build healthier communities every day. That includes helping partners like the Good Acre provide 45,000 meals and lower A1C in the Twin Cities, and helping Hello Family Doulas deliver 44% fewer underweight births in Spartanburg.
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Learn more at unitedhealthgroup.com/slash commitment. Lydia, from what you can tell, anecdotally or directly, what's been the fallout from Governor? Hochul saying, I'm putting a hold on data centers, a moratorium on data centers. It reminds me of the fracking with Governor Cuomo. If they do a study, it's not going to have an impact.
We're not going to do it anyway.
So, again, we're going to miss those jobs. We're going to miss that opportunity. What's been the fallout there? I know it's an opening for Bruce Blakeman. Yeah, it's interesting.
I mean, all of history, you see sort of the divergence of two countries, you know, whether it's East Germany and West Germany, how they sort of have divergent economic success after certain policies are implemented. We're already seeing in Pennsylvania, which of course is just right next to us, they're seeing so much more investment because they have encouraged the data centers. And I've been doing some reporting as well. You know, obviously, I completely understand the NIMBY element of this. People don't want to have something that's sort of brutalist and ugly in their backyard.
That makes perfect sense. But the fact that people are so obsessed with something that may be hundreds of miles from them, that may have no impact, the fact that they're more alarmed about that than nuclear power. To an extent, some of that has been, when you look at the data, some of that has been funded by CCP billionaires, people really trying to subvert our democracy who don't want us to succeed. Look, they took out Indian Point. That would have been got our utility bills low.
But they also have a huge solar field upstate. If anyone who's listening around the country, if you go to upstate New York, think more Iowa. It is wide open. There are so many places to build that you would never see. But I understand the noise and some of them built with diesel.
I understand that. But you also get a huge tax stream that's going to be pretty consistent. And at least for two years as it's being built, you're going to have a ton of jobs and maybe people stay.
So you like to do this interesting thing and go on this network called CNN. And I'm always in my opinion. One other thing, though, I want to say before we switch gears, in Louisiana, actually, we're seeing in places where they've put data centers, everyone else's tax bill is lower. And so, this is the kind of reporting that we're trying to do more of at the post: is highlight when you actually have innovation, it does make things better for everyone else. For those people who said, you know what, we're going to suck it up, we're going to have a data center.
Their taxes are lower. That's a pretty miraculous economy. I mean, when did that ever happen in America?
So those are the stories that highlight. That's the benefit of innovation. And of course, the downside is that your taxable is going to keep going up. You're going to lose jobs for the community. We get to go back to the other network, right?
But the Trump did say yesterday, you have to build a power center with your data center.
So whether I think the miniature nukes might be the way to go. The modular nukes. Zolidia Moni-Ann's, our guest. I forget, because we're streaming, I know people are just listening. Zolidia writes for the New York Post, great columnist.
You see her all over the channel, and you see her at CNN. Here's a little brawl that got a lot of traction because instead of going on the issues, Charles Blow went after your age. Let's listen. The two people that were on the hill tonight, I know you're trying to get a social media clip, Charles, but I think Sabina was trying to talk. I know you're trying to get your social media clip for the gotcha.
I answered your question already, but I'm also not here to answer to you. I'm happy that you told me that because I really appreciate it. I really appreciate you lecturing me about what I'm here to do because I'm here because Abby Show invited me here. And I have been in journalism for a very long time. In fact, I came to the New York Times the year that you were born.
So I suggest that you choose a lane that is your own and stay in it and don't lecture me because I won't be lectured by a child. Thank you. How the rudest comeback. I can't touch the issue, so I'll point out the fact that you're in the prime of your life. A woman in her prime.
A lot of comments about people's age. Interesting how that works. Yeah, it's frustrating when you're on with people and they either print out something that you said a couple weeks ago to try and. Say that what you're saying now isn't valid, or they attack you. And at that point, it's like there's no point in engaging if it is just going to be about an ad hominem attack.
I will say, I. I was a little flattered. You know, as a woman, once you hit 30, you wanna look young.
So I thought, okay, well, whatever I'm doing is clearly working. And it's funny, there was a conservative commentator who posted a video and they said, It's not like Lydia is particularly young. You know, it's coming to my defense and I'm like, wait, wait, no, but no, I am a child. I am a child. Please, I'm going to own this label that's been placed on me.
But yeah, there's nothing that you can say in response to that. Once you take it sort of to the lowest common denominator, you can't engage on anything substantive.
So let me ask you, after a show like that, do they talk to you after? Are they glad to get another perspective? No. It it depends, it depends. If you score, they get mad at you.
I think there are certain people who won't be persuaded, right? I guess. I think a lot of times you come and you want to represent a viewpoint because I think to an extent, you know, we live in this eco chamber where people frankly have never heard a different side, right? If you, most of the time, your friends are aligned with you politically online, the algorithm feeds exactly what you want to read and to see. And so it is, it is troubling that there genuinely are people who, and I meet them every, especially in New York City.
We're confronted with this, Brian, all the time. You meet people who genuinely had never heard another side. And so it's, I think it's really important to represent that, but there are some people who they're not interested. Right. They're not interested.
And we don't have to agree on everything. It just so happens we do agree on a lot.
So, Lydia, I'll try to find something we disagree with just so you feel more at home. But I'll never bring up your age, even though I think you would like that. It's an asset. Lydia, thanks so much. I appreciate it.
Brian, always a pleasure. Thank you for having me. Right, and don't ever bring that up. If you bring up somebody's age in a debate, you lost. Cheers to America's 250th birthday.
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