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There's so much breaking news going on right now. I'm listening up to the last second now because prime time is morning show time and with time shifting for the NATO summit over in Turkey. President of the United States, when he got up at four in the morning, walking to work, and he's having his bilateral, he's having his bilateral meeting, and it's with Ruta of NATO, and he's basically saying, I'm disappointed with everyone in NATO. Disappointed with everybody. They've totally let us down and run.

Okay? And the MOU is over. with uh Iran, and we're we bombed them eighty times last night. That's pretty big news. He just came out of a NATO meeting and said a lot of love in the room, gave me full credit for bringing back everyone's spending when it comes to defense.

And he's sitting now with Ukrainian President Zelensky, where he has just said, I'm giving them the license to make their own patriots. And this is an ingenious group that can do it. Wow. Big three. Number three.

So, can we put the unhinged conspiracies to rest? Charlie Kirk, alleged assassin. Hearing continues as a judge is hearing the evidence. And it's overwhelming as Tyler Robinson is seen on video multiple times at the scene of the crime, DNA, on the site. On the towel, on the gun, the towel also has the DNA of the boyfriend, who, along with the parents, has said that Tyler Robinson is guilty and confessed.

But yet, the conspiracy theories, while it still exist, it is sickening. Number two. Given that you have a sort of ascendant role in the Democratic Party, could you talk about the Maine Senate race? Do you think that Graham Plattner should drop out of the race? I believe that it's time for him to drop out of the race.

Right. The mayor of New York City. For some reason, he is the standard bearer for the Democratic Party now. Dem's in dire straits in Maine as the despicable Graham Plattner refuses to leave without his demands being met. Yeah, the rapist has demands.

Number one. Is the ceasefire done? Is the MOU dead? That's a very interesting question. To me, I think it's over.

I don't want to deal with them anymore, but they're scum. You know what scum is? They're scum, they're sick people. Yes, I know what scum is. President Trump speaks at NATO as he rips our allies for being MIA on Iran.

He takes aim at Spain and the ceasefire is essentially done as we pound Iran and they strike back. They hit. Bahrain In Kuwait where our bases are there, I don't think without uh any success. But they've exposed their launchers. But the launchers now that they've dug them out, okay, congratulations.

They're dug out. They're also targets. You buried them to keep them, but now that you're using them, they've got to be taken out.

So the pres the president's hitting mostly communication systems and radar, and he's hit him multiple times. Could Iran be this stupid? And self-destructive?

So they're shooting at merchant ships of Saudi Arabia and Qatar, both of which stopped allowing us to use their bases. And want a re-encroachment with Iran.

So they shoot both those guys and they condemn them.

So it just goes to show you in that neighborhood. That trying to make friends with your enemy never works. We're your ally. You got to realize that. They're trying to play both ends of the fence.

So, the president is still meeting right now. We'll see what emerges. As you know, as I just got on, he's making a lot of news because right now, If you give the license to make Patriots to the Ukrainians, not only can they do it quickly, I understand, they could actually give the excess back to us back to us so we can give it to our neighbors. In the Middle East, our Gulf states.

So it's pretty strong.

Now in terms of Spain, I know it's not that consequential, but you have an ally that spends only thirty six billion on the defense and will not let us use our own bases, which we fully finance, while mocking America on a regular basis, they're done.

So I looked up what kind of trade we have with Spain. And the President looked at Scott Besson during the press conference. We're never going to have this again. Keep it mine.

Well, we'll never normally this stuff comes out weeks later in closed door meetings, according to an unnamed source. We get it in real time. If you look at what we trade with Spain. And essentially it is Not a lot. They buy from us crude oil, natural gas.

Aircraft Weapons, medical supply, pharmaceutical technology, agricultural products, they buy that from us. We import from them. Automobiles, what kind of car do they have? What what kind of Spanish does anyone have it do you know? What kind of did does Spain even make a car?

Uh I don't even do you know anyone who drives a Spanish car? I mean Okay, automobiles, wine, olive oil. We can go to Italy for that. Wine, I'm pretty sure Trump Trump makes his own wine. We don't need that anymore.

Steel and metal products, I'm pretty sure the President's tariffing them back to America in renewable energy.

So, good luck, Spain. Continue to use your socialist economy and talk tough to try to raise your personal approval ratings. But in the end, are you helping your country? The answer is no.

So and the other big story is what's happening with Iran because they're they're in full motion right now in terms of trying to enforce their control of the strait.

Now one of the reasons they think they're in control of the strait is because it says it. in the MOU. A terrible document that I guess we're supposed to look at as just a way to get negotiations. But if you look at this 14 points. This is what the Iranians are going by, and they're despicable, and I agree with everything the president said.

But in the MOU that J. D. Vance put together Says the Islamic Republic of Iran and Oman. We'll conduct dialogue and define future administration and maritime services on the Strait of Formuz. In discussion with other Persian Gulf allies, and states in line with the applicable international law and the sovereign rights of coastal states on the Strait of Hermuz.

They think they're going to control it after 60 days because it says it there to a degree, easily to be interpreted that way.

So the question is, the price of oil is now up to $76. We got it down to $68. If the prices go up on the average American, they're most like less likely to vote for the President's party in the midterm elections. Josh Holmes, cutting. I think what Iran has systematically done over the last couple of months is eliminate every other option other than a finish-the-job type operation.

Of course, President Trump and the administration didn't want that to be the case, but Iran is an untrustworthy negotiating partner, and we continue to see the violence in the strait, the disruption of commerce in the strait that they're trying to use as leverage for this larger conversation, at the same time just being an absolute menace across the region and the globe. And so I think President Trump is right here to escalate, and I don't think he has any other choice.

So, the one thing that the President could do, if he wants to go back to Connecticut operations, but while keep the price of oil down, this is what could happen. You talk to our NATO allies right now. Say, look, I'm going to need escorts through that straight. I'm going to need insurance. We'll provide the insurance for the merchant ships through this strait.

And here is our military operation to take back the strait. The way to keep oil down while keeping Iran down and out is to take back the strait. I think that I've been told By military experts, we got multiple plans to take back the strait and be in thorough control of it right now. And it's not just the blockade. That's one way to do it.

So, before we take a timeout and recalibrate, right now, Zelensky is speaking, and everything he says is of substance. When these guys meet, this is of substance. Um This is what the President said earlier, which General Keene Had brought up, and I believe the first, along with Mark Thiessen, about hey Ukraine has innovated their own Drone defense. They innovated their own long-range rockets. Can you give them permission to make the Patriots?

Listen. One of the things I think we're going to be talking about today, I just, a little birdie told me this about the fact that we'll give them the right to make patriots. We'll show them how to do it. It's very complex, actually, but it's you'll figure out the complexity quickly. And we're talking about that, and we'll, the company that makes them.

Which is building now four plants. You know, all of our companies will be able to do this in two to three months. If you order a Patriot, now you have to wait a long time for them. Same thing with Tom Hawks. We have a lot of certain equipment, but they call it the elite equipment.

And you don't need elite equipment necessarily for a war.

So one of the things we're going to be talking about is we're going to give a license to you to make Patriots. That's pretty cool, right? This way you can't complain that we're not giving them enough. It's a make them yourself. We haven't informed the company of that yet, but that'll work out all right.

They'll be thrilled. But, you know, they'll be able to do it. You'll be able to figure that out. Most countries couldn't do that. If I said that to most countries, they wouldn't know what I'm talking about.

But this is a very ingenious group. And what I like about that is a defensive situation as opposed to an offensive. But I think one of the things you might want to be talking about is that. The way these two are getting along is fantastic, and it reminds me. And I keep saying this over and over again.

We're never going to have this again. So, what happened in the Oval Office a year ago really was, I think, started by J.D. Vance. And then the president followed up, took it over, and said, that's basically change your tone and kicked him out, and they never had lunch. And we all know about that.

But what happens is, if you have a real relationship, sometimes with even your best friends and your closest family members, you have arguments because you can't if you have a real relationship feel comfortable enough for people, you got to tell them how you really think. If you're in this formal relationship and you're worried about it, you talk about it when they leave. President Trump's like, no, I'll talk about it while you're here. And then the next thing you know, they're meeting. Uh, with the naming of the new pope, I think, in the Vatican.

And they had that meeting with a famous shot, those two just sitting in chairs, and Macrone was going to stay, and he told Macron to leave, and those two had it out.

So they continue to talk on a regular basis, and they get frustrated with each other, and I get it. But I think that they really like each other. And then, before you heard Donald Trump say when I was just walking up to do the radio show. He said, We actually have a very good relationship now. And Zelensky chimed in, he goes, And it's not going to end.

So that was pretty cool. I think, because it shows a real, you know, if you're going to be honest with us when you're fighting, I think you're being honest with us when you're not. We're going to take a short time out, talk about those events, and also talk about the Charlie Kirk hearings, which turned out to be a mini trial with legal experts telling me almost never happens. But this is why I think it's necessary, because these conspiracy theorists have said Israel is behind Charlie Kirk's death, or that Erica is behind Charlie Kirk's death, or other people are behind his death. when you have this guy, Tyler Robinson, caught dead to rights as the assassin, but people needed to see it because we were not hearing the evidence.

We're finally hearing the evidence from the prosecution. And all those people who made so much money on clicks and theories should really be debunked And you should really think twice before you subscribe to their podcast. Or listen to them at all. Don't move. Where big stories meet bigger conversations.

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Not totally, but moved. We are trying to move this world to the sky, from the battlefield. That's why we now began to control the battlefield. This is very important. It's difficult when you have less people to move them back.

But we found another way how to do it, to cut their logistics for the army. It's about weapon, petrol, diesel, without massive human losses. That is the difference between us, by the way.

So that is as President Zeleski, and this is an ongoing press conference, they seem to have gotten permission. Can we look up Allison who makes the Patriots, I think, Raytheon? Do you think Raytheon, Eric?

So, whoever makes them, they've got the president's given permission for. For Zelensky to make them. And a precedent would be. is not a President that we need, but just a President that I note. That Iran makes Shahed.

Drones. And they were giving him to Russia, literally save Russia when they were they were getting their tanks blown up. Lockheed Martin.

Okay, Lockheed Martin is the one. And Raytheon make the Patriot missiles.

So Basically, Iran said, This is how you make them, you make them. And they paid Iran some money, and now Russia makes their own Shahed drones.

So with the Mark Thiessen, I think Jack Keene, along with the President, said, why don't we just let Ukraine make them, temporarily give them the license to do it, and if they get really good at it and do it, we're having problems making mass production now with all the back orders that we have.

So maybe we'll give them 20% give us 20% of these back for having the wherewithal for us to give you and trust you to make them. And I thoroughly trust Ukraine.

Now, the President says, I trust that we could do a deal with Russia and we don't have to worry about security guarantees, unlike Iran. But I disagree with the President on that. Vladimir Putin has not held to any agreement. Remember, he just took the Donbass. He took Crimea.

He doesn't hold to any agreement. And he has now breached the the borders of almost every Eastern European nation that used to be in his hemisphere, used to be in his sphere of influence.

So this is what's going on. I mean, I'm just we're bouncing forth bouncing back and forth between conflicts because it's happening right now.

Now the marketer responded to the President's remark that said the MOU he considers really done. And the market's down five hundred points. It's still at fifty two thousand, but it's down five hundred points.

Now if the President comes out or you Iran comes out and says we will not sh shoot at any more ships, And we say we're not going to bomb tonight. The President's already said we're going to bomb again tonight. the market will respond like a rubber band and bounce right back.

So This is something else that happened. This story has not emerged, and I'm surprised more questions haven't come out about this. The President said, after meeting in NATO, there was a lot of love in the room and respect given. That's a lot different from before that meeting started, where he said, I'm very disappointed. The only reason I'm here is out of respect for President Erdogan of Turkey, because he has done everything I have asked as an ally and was a friend of his when he was just when the president was just a businessman looking to build hotels.

In Turkey. One thing about it, Secretary Rutez said all the right things and believes President Trump and he are friends, and he can talk to him, and he's basically doing that.

So we'll see how this goes. Back to Iran for a second about what the next steps will be. Here's Steve Yates. On Fox News at night. Talking about the ongoing bombing.

Cut nine.

Now with these options or these operations, if the Iranians do try to do anything big in response to this, then I think we're back into the mode of we need to degrade the IRGC further. That is the long tent in the poll. That's what's standing in the way. Yeah, Harry Lippmann from the U.S. Council on Foreign Relations, cut 11.

As President Trump said, they never lost a negotiation.

So they are trying to win in the negotiating table what they lost on the military battlefield. At the end of the day, the only way you really have closure in warfare is you utterly and totally defeat your enemy. This is what happened in World War I. World War I, Germany lost, but they didn't feel defeated. Then they came back 20 years later.

And then they were crushed, and now we have peace with Germany. That's what needs to be done with Iran. And the one thing that we learned from World War I to World War II is that you don't humiliate your opponent.

So in World War I, we left Germany in tatters. They had a worthless currency. They were left in poverty. It allowed somebody like Hitler to emerge and say, we have a better hope. The world's against us.

Let's rally together, militarize the Rhine, and then do this blitzkrieg and try to take over Europe. And we learned in World War II: that's not how you treat your enemy. You rebuilt. It wants you to feature them. And we did that in Japan.

They're our staunchest ally. We did that with Germany. And now Germany, after breaking them in half, And then not allowing them to be together, and the Russians and the Soviets are not releasing East Germany. Then we finally let them together and say, let's limit their military capacity because of what they've done in the last two world wars.

Now we're saying, do what you want. And now they are spending the second most on defense in all of NATO.

Now at 98 billion, we're at 970 billion, looking to get up to 1.5 trillion. All right, you listen to the Brian Kilmeich show. This is a very fluid situation. We're still seeing it ongoing, very impactful, bilateral with President Zelensky. A lot of news breaking almost with every sentence the president's giving.

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So glad you're here. A radio show like no other. It's Brian Killmeade. Is the ceasefire done, the MOU dead? That's a very interesting question.

To me, I think it's over. I don't want to deal with them anymore. They're scum. You know what scum is? They're scum.

They're sick people. They're led by sick people. And they're vicious, violent people. And if they had a nuclear weapon they'd use it. As far as I'm concerned, it's over.

I'll speak to our negotiators. You know Not only would I say it's over, I love what the President said. He said, I'm going to speak to my negotiators. He's hedged a little bit because he knows if he said it's over, we're going to a full-scale war. The price of oil on projection is going to go up, the market will go down, people don't want to be caught.

Um And of course, you worry about 425, 445, 450 with this gas going up, and of course, the traveling season with vacations coming here. I want to bring in Brent Sadler now. There's a very fluid situation. We got two act the two problems we've had: Iran and Ukraine. At the same time, with the President with a bilateral right now with President Zelensky, Captain Brent Zadler joins us now.

First off, Brett, what were you thinking when you watched or you heard that the President said the MOU is done? And last night we hit him 80 times.

So, thanks for having me back on your show, Brian. And not surprise. By any of this. And again, the things that are going on in the world in Iran and Ukraine, they're all connected. And I think I'd throw in China into this mix here.

So the bigger picture does matter. But the thing that's probably going to have to happen, and the President kind of teased it out. That those attacks on Iran are going to have to continue, because clearly that's the only language that the mullahs and the IRGC in Tehran understand, and that's the diplomacy of the 500-pound bombs that Secretary Wars talked about. And we're not there yet with them, clearly.

So taking out any leverage they have by completely degrading their threats to us and their shipping in the Straits of Hermuz and along the Persian Gulf is necessary.

So, Captain, how many people have the experience you have, and especially our audience, passionate, but maybe don't have the military experience? Is you a naval warfare advanced technology? If I think about a way to keep the price of oil down while going full bore after Iran, it is to take control of the strait. Tell the world you can move through the strait, whale handle land. If we wanted to take back the strait, what type of military commitment would we make?

And could we do it in a way that allowed merchant ships? to travel through and still carry insurance. Yeah, I'll try and break that. That's a big question.

So I'll try and break it down. First, the political side, which is the fixation on the price of gas at the pump. Important, yes, but seasonally the prices go up in the summer. Seasonally, they go down. Right about the time you'd have elections, and people act on trends.

So I think that and the fact that OPEC's restraint on production, which is starting to fray, you had the UAE leave it, it's not a question of not having enough energy on the market. It's allowing it to get to market. And I think the pressures are going to move to be able to get more of that energy on there and the prices will start to drop. The spike right now, I think, will pass, even if the conflict continues and heats up in the next few weeks. And I think the political question is we need to stay the course and things will be all right.

The price and gas is only one of the factors that'll probably weigh on Americans' minds. And I think it'll be in the right direction. On the military front, there's The option of going in and marching into Tehran in dictating terms is not an option the President clearly has been looking for. I don't think politically it would be one that would be digestible here in the United States as a forever war. It's also not necessary.

We don't have the forces in the theater for that option. But we do have the military forces for several other options, and it may become time to start to think about it. There's been a lot of discussion about Karg Island. 90% of Iran's energy exports go through that. But the real threat And I guess really the cap on the bottle there, the Persian Gulf, is Bander Abbas.

That's where the Iranians or naval forces operate out of. It's where they've been coordinating their attacks into and against shipping at the Strait of Hormuz. It's also historically, it's been occupied in the past. It may be time to consider some kind of limited occupation of the country. And that would be the place, I think, that should be considered, like Karg Island.

Is it an island?

Well, there's Keshim Island, there's Hormuz Island, but the city's on Iran proper, but there's very significant mountain ranges to the north. City's a population of about 600,000 people, but it's also a hotbed of dissent against the regime.

So if there's been some preparation of the ground, those are questions I don't have the insight onto. But again, if we're going to try to open the bottle of a turn and change the regime in Iran and allowing the people there to take it back themselves, this might be what's necessary: a foothold and some confidence and some protection that can go on. I'm not saying it has to be done, but I think we need to start seriously considering it if we're going to get to the end here. But I felt they've been hitting the merchant ships with drones mostly. Drones, cruise missiles.

It sounds like suspiciously perhaps even a ballistic missile or something more substantial that because there was some reporting of substantially high speed missile hits to I guess the second ship that was hit l uh yesterday.

So They do have forces, they do have to be along the coastline, they do have these small boats, which they're no real threat. But the final thing on the military is that we've kind of taken a reactive posture. The Iranians attack. We then respond, they say Uncle, let's go back to negotiations and then the cycle repeats. I think rather you can do both.

You can negotiate. While you are also engaged in hostilities, in this case, the option is. Don't do episodic attacks. Treat any Iranian military presence or maritime threat along the coastline of Iran as hostile and attack it on site. Here's what I liked about this, Captain.

I liked that they said this was not proportionate. It was disproportionate. We hit them harder than they hit. We went out of our way last time and said, hey, we're just hitting you because you hit us. It's over.

This time we said, no, it's not over. I want you to hear what it's like if you're a captain on a merchant ship. This is what the audio from Iran cut one. This is last warning. This is last warning.

This is last warning. You are running danger. Don't put your life in danger. And then they hit him. Right after.

Yeah, I guess he's figured English. But get this: they're hitting Qatar and Saudi Arabian ships, two of the three, or now they're up to five. But Qatar and Saudi Arabia are the ones trying to reapproach Iran in some type of detente move. Remember, Saudi Arabia didn't show up and didn't respond to their G seven invitation from Marco Rubio.

So nice try. Are they the Gulf states learning anything? That this is that reapproaching with Iran will not get you on their good side?

Well, I think the Gulf states are pretty much behind us in a more forceful approach to Iran since very early in this conversation. Not the Saudis. The Saudis have changed their tone. I'm not so sure quietly what's going on behind the scenes. I mean, they've also been attacked, and they're no friend of the Iranians either.

But again, in the back, and also in their mind, these Gulf countries, is they're wondering if the United States is going to have the stamina to finish the job. And if there's questions there, then cutting a deal with the Iranians becomes more, you know, more palpable. We may have turned the corner on that now, given the Iranians' continued belligerency. But that recording that you played, similar language the Chinese use in the South and the East China Sea.

So if we don't Do this right. We may have problems multiplying in other places, and so we have to be very strong about this freedom of navigation and not tolerating this type of behavior.

So I'm sure you noticed that China's up to something in in um Yesterday we saw That they were trying to show their, I guess, their military muscle with nuclear-capable missile tests. I don't know what they were trying to do, but they launched a nuclear-capable ballistic missile with a simulated warhead from a submarine into the Pacific Ocean. The neighbors, Australia, they said that this is. This is disturbing. They say Beijing's rapid and opaque nuclear weapons buildup is of great concern to the region.

Why do you think they're choosing now to do something like this? I usually, I'm used to North Korea doing things like this when they're not getting attention. I don't think China necessarily needs attention. What are they doing? It's a couple things.

When I was a strategic weapons officer on an SSB and have shot those types of missiles myself, it takes weeks and months of preparation.

So the setup for this was something the Chinese thought about for a long time. The actual day and the hour, of course, maybe they did that for political purposes. Two things come to mind. You mentioned the NATO summit, that very clearly. And I think that's going to not gonna be very helpful for the Chinese strategically, but I think that was one of their calculations.

The other is the Australians had just signed a security agreement with. Fiji. And if you look at the flight path, it's kind of pointing an arrow right to Fiji.

So it could also be a message to the Pacific Islanders: knock it off and don't sign any more of these deals. China did get a secret pact, security pact with the Solomon Islands, and it's actually agitated the region to start to view China more in a hostile light. I think, likewise, the timing with the NATO summit, I think it's a reminder to our European allies that China is also a common enemy that's in league with Russia. as well as in league with Iran. It's not helpful for the Chinese strategic purposes, but it certainly helps our unity amongst our allies against China.

Captain Brett Sandler, our guest, but we're streaming now. If you have the Fox News app or on Fox Nation, when I was about to start this meeting, I saw at 4 in the morning Eastern Time. The President was angry. He was angry at Iran. He says, I'm not really happy with NATO.

We wanted him to be there for us. It was kind of a test, and they failed that test. They didn't want to even let us use our bases. Mark Gruda tried to talk him down, and he just said, No, Spain's the worst. England initially denied us, and he went through the whole thing.

Germany, France, they said, before I even asked, they said, we're not getting involved. But when he came out 20 minutes ago as I walked to do the show He said there was a lot of love in that room. There was a lot of respect giving to us. And people cited America and Trump specifically as the reason why we're all spending more on defense. We always were spending it, but everybody else is.

Eastern European nations were always great. The Western weren't, but they're picking up the pace outside Spain. But I'm wondering if something wasn't said about Iran. And I'm wondering if the if about cooperation with Iran.

So Brent, you know their capabilities and what they're not capable of. I understand if we were to try to get help from our allies, it would be on escorts and demining. Do you if I was to try to show America that I proportionally have your back? What would I say? What would you say to Trump?

Well, one, access to the bases is key, and Trump is very right to be really pissed off about that. The Allies need to do better.

So that's one thing, and provide more support like fuel and perhaps even munitions out of their army. With regards to naval presence, I mean, it's been highly disappointing because the French, as well as several other European nations, had naval forces in the area, but Rather than show up even on the fringes and providing some rear area support or security or even guarding against the Houthis, they stay too far away. Right now, you've got several countries that have minesweepers that are standing by nearby to go into the Straits or Moose. They need to go in, and they need to kind of clear any mines there as we continue to suppress the threat from Iran. And that's one.

That includes the Japanese, by the way, who have a history of delivering minesweepers a little too late. Gulf War number one comes to mind in this. And this is not the same Japan at that time. And so they've been also a little tardy to this endeavor. And I think all of them just need to basically, at this stage, realize the threat and realize that we're at a culminating point where we could end this very favorably with a little bit more help, a little bit more pressure.

And unity amongst our allies, or we'll be muddling through this with economic cost for the foreseeable future. It's really up to our allies to help us end this quicker rather than trying to string this along. And a word on Denmark and Greenland: that's about China and the Danes not taking the threat from China seriously, and the constant and the expanding Chinese presence in Greenland, and also their inadequate defense spending. But in the last year or so, it seems under President Trump's pressure. And it's going to have to stay on them.

They're getting to a better place. We're not there yet, but the issue is China and the threat to our national security in Greenland.

So you know what's so interesting is because when Greenland was white hot six months ago, they were saying that China hasn't done much there. Their ar activity was higher in the Arctic, but you're saying it is now their presence is growing there around the shores, not on land, right?

So, it's an economic one, which is really a cover for a lot of other nefarious espionage as well as potentially security concerns for the United States. Mining was really what the Chinese were investing in heavily. And while they paused those investments and they paused those activities several years ago under American pressure, they never left. They're still there. At the same time, the Danes never really put any money or military presence to police that presence.

As well as to build up defenses in Greenland. And then the final thing for the Greenlanders, who have, you know, they kind of have a special relationship with Denmark. They haven't gotten much economic investment. From Denmark for decades. And so No surprise that the Chinese show up on the door with bales of cash and willing to kind of develop the economy there.

The Greenlanders will take it.

So they need to be given a better offer, and that's what President Trump, one of the things he was trying to provide them. I'll tell you what, if the President says, listen, the Chinese just showed up with a bag of cash and Denmark step up or we're stepping in, that would actually win over public sentiment.

So. And obviously, they're into cooperation. They also have rare earth, and we need that rare earth. And they have no capability of mining it. And this, I understand, according to the experts, is the season to mine it.

So let's get in there. Captain Brett Sadler, it's great time. I mean, it's a very fluid situation. All the hotspots are being examined right now. Couldn't have a better person on with us.

Thanks so much, Captain. Thank you. Thank you very much, Brian. Back in a moment.

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And just coming this time... What a start made by Egypt! A goal from Yosef Ibrahim, the central defender, Argentina Rodney, Argentina. Got Mesha Ryan with Salah. In the vicinity.

Hassan. Ball play this time, Zico he kicks, but shall be for joy. Dishing it off. Messi was in position. Oh, three hits.

And that is exactly what Argentina needed. Lionel Messi deflection there on the way through. Until they won.

Something up here. Argentina. There you go. They rallied back from a 2-0 deficit, did Argentina with three goals, and they beat Egypt. It just goes to show you, they almost lost to Palo Verde, which is a country of 550,000.

They almost lost. They came back to do it. They almost had the golden penalty kicks. Messi did miss a penalty kick during the game. You can imagine his relief if his missed penalty kick cost Argentina a chance to repeat his world champions.

Afterwards, superstar and now commentator Zlatan Ibrahimovich commented on what he saw from the 38-year-old Leono Messi, cut 41. He became an animal. And nobody could catch him. He just went on, went on, and And this is the one I saw, we used to see and we're still seeing.

So you can see also how emotional it is, how much it means for him. Remember, he already won this World Cup. You already won a lot of trophies, a lot of ballon d'or. FIFA player of the everything. I can sit here and just give his C V.

And uh and it looks perfect, but he still wants it. you still want it and that's impressive. It is. It's scaring the hell out of the Argentinian fans, but they're still alive. And it's pretty impressive too.

When you look at the matchups that are left, the one I'm looking forward to more than anything else, and I want both teams to win, Norway against England, I think they're pretty amazing. The matchups that are left in the quarterfinals, it's going to be France against Morocco. Morocco looks great. France is the number one team in the world. I think they're better than Argentina.

Spain, Belgium. I hope Spain beats them 100 to nothing. And then Argentina plays Switzerland, who won in penalty kicks.

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Crazy day already. The President of the United States up early, 4 a.m., talking about with our situation Iran, the MOU basically done. And we hit him 80 times last night. And then he also made it clear he's gonna see about giving licenses. To allow, I guess, Raytheon and Lockheed Mardin make the Patriot.

And he's gonna see about getting licenses to Ukraine to make their own.

So you get their licenses, kind of like the Shahed drone is made by Russia now, that Iran gave them permission in their own evil world. I think that they're going to do that. That's what Ukraine is looking to do. You saw what they were able to engineer with their own long-range rockets. You see what they're able to do with their anti-drone technology.

You see that they're on the offensive now. Would that be the right move? And the president is in real good spirits.

Something happened in that meeting. When he came out of the NATO meeting, as opposed to when he went in, he said there was a lot of love in the room and respect given to the United States. Byron Donalds knows him well. The congressman from Florida, who wants to be the next governor, we're lucky enough to have him in studio. Congressman, great to see you.

Hey, yeah, man. How you doing? I don't blame you if you weren't up at four. I am. But are you catching up to a little bit of the news that's broke?

And you kind of heard what I just had to say. Yeah, I'm catching up on it right now. I mean, look, the first thing is with the NATO countries. specific to let's let's talk about all of it, but start with the straight. The NATO countries, in my opinion, they should have been helping keep the straight of horror moves open this entire time because what the Iranians have always wanted was to put economic pressure on the West so that they can chase their nuclear ambitions.

We'll see what happens coming out of these NATO meetings. With the strikes in response to what happened with commercial vessels, I think that if anything is going to help the European countries and the NATO countries understand that they have to take some responsibility in keeping the Strait of Horror moves open and moving, then I think it gives the United States much more leverage in whatever negotiations go forward next. And there's something about seeing someone face to face. Yeah, of course.

So you have them all in the meeting today. Yeah. And they're seeing what happened last night. We hit them 80 times and they came back and rocketed Kuwait and Bahrain, two of the ships. One was Qatar, one was Saudi Arabia of the five that they hit.

So you sit there, somebody looking across and say, what are you guys going to do? And what are they capable of doing? Do you know what's possible? I know they have minesweepers. Look, I think the Europeans are capable of doing a lot of.

Things if they actually decide to get off their butt and get involved. In terms of making sure that the strait is navigable by commercial ships, the European nations can easily do that. There's no reason that they don't have the capability not to do that, except that, you know, as is typical, they typically like to wait and see or they like to sue for peace. And unfortunately, that is the history in Europe. They like to sue for peace until it's too late.

And I think the reality is, if you look at even the beginnings of our Navy, the beginning of many navies around the world, in part, it was to keep open commercial shipping lines. That's why a lot of navies were created from a historical context.

So if you take that historical context today and you say, listen, Iran, if you want to have a negotiation with the United States, have your negotiation with the United States. But what you're not going to do is you're not going to use the Strait of Hormuz as a leverage point because that leverage point impacts our people in Europe, impacts oil prices around the globe, impacts fertilizer prices around the world. around the globe, and you're not going to use that as a weapon against us.

So, if we could hear Eric, this was a sound a short time ago when it comes to giving licenses to build patriots. With those two companies, Lockheed Martin and Raytheon. Let's listen. One of the things I think we're going to be talking about today, just a little birdie told me this about the fact that we'll give them the right to make Patriots. We'll show them how to do it.

It's very complex, actually, but you'll figure out the complexity quickly. And we're talking about that. And the company that makes them, which is building now four plants, you know, all of our companies will be able to do this in two to three months. If you order a Patriot, now you have to wait a long time for them. Same thing with Tom Hawks.

We have a lot of certain equipment, but with they call it the elite equipment. And you don't need elite equipment necessarily for a war.

So one of the things we're going to be talking about is we're going to give a license to you to make Patriots. That's pretty cool, right? This way you can't complain that we're not giving them enough. It's a make them yourself. We haven't informed the company of that yet, but that'll work out all right.

Congressman Byron Donaldson Studios, so your thoughts about this is General Keene brought this up, Mark Thiessen brought it up. It's been run in other circles. If they can do it, can they do it? Is there a hurdle that needs to be cleared if Raytheon and Lockheed want to do it? Do they have to sign off on it?

I would assume that, you know, obviously the United States government would have to sign off on allowing that. I think the president obviously is always looking for new angles for leverage in all of these. Don't you think they would be for that, especially how the Democrats are pro-Ukraine? You know, it's funny on Capitol Hill. Like you would say, you would say, well, if they built the weapon systems themselves, that's common sense.

But then you'd probably have ten Democrats who would show up in an hour and say, we can't allow for that because or say would make up some excuse just to oppose President Trump. And that's really how sick Washington DC has become. If Donald Trump says it, the Democrats now are just against it. Because that's the only way they have any political argument in the United States, because they don't have a policy political argument.

So I think when it comes to the Ukrainians building patriot systems for themselves, look, that remains to be seen. We'll see what the details shake out on this one. Let's talk domestic politics if we can, because you're running for governor in Florida. You're replacing a very successful governor, and Rick Scott was successful before that. Yes.

It's single-handedly. Because of that, I think because of the performance, it's become a red state. Yes. Along with a lot of people who lean right leaving the North, East, and coming back down. Pandemic expedited everything.

The other thing is you're finding that your opponents and your party that you're going against has gone socialist. Uh This is a trend that's growing, I think, in a disturbing way for the country. And, you know, Jamal Bowman was one person who leaned that way. AOC has leaned that way. Most of the squad is like that way.

But then you see Christopher Raab over in Pennsylvania, and you see three socialists win here in New York City. How does that change how you deal with Democrats? It really hasn't changed. We've been talking about how the Democrats have supported socialism as a party, really, for 15 years. Even if you go back to Obamacare 15 years ago, Obamacare was a socialist takeover of healthcare.

It was the first step. And look what's happened in our healthcare system.

Now they went Medicare for all. Yeah, they want Medicare for all. Even the people who were writing the bill, their entire purpose was Medicare for all, Medicaid for all, whatever they want to call it. Obamacare was the first step. Look at what they did.

Premiums are up massively. Deductibles up massively. People, the quality of care people are receiving, depending on your economic, depending on where you are economically, is not as good as others. That's because the Democrat policy runs healthcare in this country. That's a fact.

So they've been going down this road for a while now.

So I think as a Republican, it doesn't really change because if you want school choice, vote Republican. If you want free markets, you vote Republican. If you want... cheap and affordable energy prices, you vote Republican. If you want stabilized prices, you vote Republican.

If you want government control of systems, you want more bureaucratic steps around energy, which raises prices. If you want more regulatory systems around building housing, which raises prices, that's what the Democrat Party has always stood for. If you want more government and health care, guess what? The cost is going to rise. That's what the Democrats want.

So whether it's the three Democrat socialists who were elected in New York or they just elected another Democrat socialist in Colorado, getting rid of a longtime progressive and Diana DeGuette out in Colorado, Dan Goldman here in New York, he was no moderate Democrat. He was an impeachment lawyer. He was an impeachment lawyer. He was a progressive. But for the Democrat socialists, he wasn't socialist enough.

And he's anti-Israel, you know, he doesn't. Doesn't like that's a problem, too. Yeah. So, I mean, look, the Democrats, they've been going down this road for a long time. I think our view of their party is not going to change.

It's just that now they're coming out of the closet. Graham Plattner. He lost me at Nazi Tattoo.

Now we find out about he's been accused of rape by an ex-girlfriend. The other one came out, Lindsay Fifield, was marginalized because she's a Republican. I guess that's a hard thing to ask people so not to believe her. She came out again last night and said, How could you not be publishing the other accuser's story? It was corroborated five times, cut 19.

He was known for being very rough with people. I mean, like, he apologized sober the next day on many of these occasions.

So, with me. And so, when he, like, yes, I know there were times when he was blackout drunk that he would say, Oh, I don't remember that. But then days later, he would come back and details would slip out. And he'd say, Well, that was before, or something. And I'd catch him in a lie, and it would be like, Wait, so you do remember you weren't blackout drunk.

But on rare occasions, when He'd be, you know, the next day very apologetic. Very contrite. Not, oh, I don't remember doing that, but I'm sorry in my daughter. This could go on. I mean, this for a half hour, each one of these accusers, at the same time, he says he denies it, but everybody, even Bernie Sanders, everyone said Chris Murphy and a handful of his call for him to sign, he's not going anywhere.

The Democrats are a socialist and a despicable human being. The Democrats do not care about any of these things. They only care about power. And I think it's important that the American people understand this. The Democrats will tolerate, frankly, an accused rapist in the United States Senate.

Because they want power in the United States Senate. This is not about cultural norms. This is not about just even common sense policy. It is about political power to wield a political agenda, quite frankly, to quote former President Obama, to fundamentally change the United States of America. That's what this is about.

And the Democrats have not changed. Why do you think they were so upset when the Supreme Court said that you can't do racial gerrymandering in the United States of America anymore? They don't care about black political power. They care about Democrat political power. Because when the assumption was, if you're black, you're voting Democrat.

That's the assumption. Look, right now there are four black members of Congress who are Republican. Myself, Wesley Hunt, John James, Burgess Owen. Wesley decided to run for the Senate in Texas. John's running for governor in Michigan.

I'm running for governor in Florida. Burgess Owens was going to stay a member of Congress. The Democrats sued in Utah. To read, to redo those maps to make a Democrat map. You had a black man serving in Congress in the state of Utah.

He just happened to be a Republican. If he was a Democrat, the Democrats wouldn't have sued in Utah. The people of our country need to understand that Democrats are wielding whatever they can for political power, first, second, and third.

So, when you see the Graham Plantner story and you see all the women that have come out in detail about these stories, the reason why they're all quiet or they're saying, oh no, but we still support them, is because they want power. That's all they want. That's all they care about. When we come back, I'm going to talk about AI. You also have this financial background and this big push to stop data centers.

And it seems to be somewhat bipartisan. Can't have AI without data centers. Utility rates. Do you want it in your backyard? What is the situation there?

We know that Kevin O'Leary came out and said, I haven't building a data center now. He thinks the Chinese are working to make sure they don't get built using their social media apparatus. We'll talk to Congressman Byron Donalds about that. You listen to the Brian Kilmead show. Diving deep into today's top stories, it's Brian Kilmead.

If you're interested in it, Brian's talking about it. You're with Brian Kilmead.

So Byron Donalds is here. He's running for governor. Yes, we have so many great affiliates, Congressman, in Florida.

So I know you're auditioning. You're doing your national job, your federal job, as well as what you do for the people of Florida. Where do you stand on data centers? For example, we need it for AI. We definitely need the power built.

If the AI companies are going to expand, maybe they should be paying for it. We don't want utility bills to go up. But yet it's become popular now to say, I don't want a data center. I don't want my utility bills up. And it's a water issue, too.

Well, a couple of things. One, we're going to protect ratepayers and we're going to protect our water in Florida. And now, you know, running for governor, I'm going to speak specific to Florida. The governor, Governor DeSantis, just signed into law, and it's now law in Florida, that your utility bills cannot go up for a data center. I 100% agree with that.

Your utility bills should not go up for a data center. Number two, they have to get a consumptive use permit from our water management districts. In Florida, 100% agree with that. We want to protect Florida's aquifers. Three, we want to require closed-loop systems if a data center is built in Florida.

Think about how somebody's pool works. You fill it up one time, and then you have a filtration system that just keeps the water clean and recycles the water. You might have to add some just because of evaporation, but by and large, you're not refilling your pool every single day. We think that data centers should be able to do the same thing. And the new specs on data centers, not the old ones that are in Northern Virginia, the new ones, are far more efficient on water.

They actually use less water than a golf course does.

So you wouldn't fight it. No, I think you may. Mitigate the issues. And that's like anything in life. AI is a tool.

It's the new tool in our economy the same way the personal computer was a tool, the same way the internal combustion engine was a tool. It's a tool that we're now using in the economy. My concern is: if you just say no without mitigating the issues like power, like water, and quite frankly, like proximity, do I want one next to somebody's house? No. I don't want one next to my house.

And so I don't want that for other people.

So, yeah, you set them back, you set them away. But as long as you mitigate that, then yes, you go ahead and you build out what you need in order to have the computing power for the future of our economy. My bigger concern, if we start limiting computing power, is that you'll see the costs of computing power rise, not on Amazon or Meta, but on small businesses who are trying to use AI to be more efficient, on people who are trying to use it for various means, whether it's to make funny little videos or memes, or if you're trying to research information for yourself. If you don't have the computing power, then the cost for individuals and the cost for small businesses, those, in my opinion, are going to go up. I'll give you a quick example.

The United States of America and under President Trump were finally trained changing this, but we've not built a new oil refinery in our country in more than 47 years. But if you look around America, the amount of petroleum products from our computers to our cell phones to our clothes to hair dye has increased every single year.

So we're wondering why the cost of goods have increased, but everything is petroleum products. But we've not built a new refinery.

So we have more demand for the output, but we've not built out the capacity. My concern with the data center argument of people just saying flat no is that if we don't build out the capacity for something that we are using, everybody's using even the people who are anti-day AI data centers are using AI. Let's just be very clear. Everybody's using it. If you don't have the capacity, you actually raise the costs, especially on individuals and small businesses, to be able to use that computing power.

So I say mitigate the risks. Take care of power. Take care of water. Take care of proximity. In Florida, our law does that now as governor.

I will enforce that law to make sure that that happens, to protect Florida while also making sure we have the computing power we need. You know what I found when the first time I became aware of this in 2017 when I realized foreign influences were trying to realize, well, how is America divided?

Well, let's put out these messages anti-Trump or make them foment race relations in our country or erase tensions in our country. My sense is that China is going out of their way through social media causes to make this a cause. 100% they are. Because we would slow us down from competing and leading in AI. Listen, the Chinese are behind us in computing power.

So, if you're the Chinese and you're behind America, and by the way, they're behind America militarily, they're behind America economically, they're behind America in terms of historic pasture on the world stage, and they want to pass us.

So, what do you do? You're not going to fight an economic war with the United States. You're not going to fight a military war.

So you actually use our open systems, our social media platforms, and you bring in disinformation to essentially decentralize our political foundation. I 100% believe that's what the Chinese are doing. You've got to find a way to stop it. Lastly, Bob was to put one if you become governor, one issue that you're going to be facing is Cuba. You know, the massive power shortages.

They're running out of oil and gas. They've lost Venezuela as now. How are you going to handle that? It's 90 miles off your coast. It 100% is.

First of all, we want the Cuban regime to fall. I want Diaz Canal gone. I want the regime to fall. It's time for a free Cuba again. You have a free Cuba.

They will have a friend and a partner in me and with the people of Florida. Do you want to talk about massive refugees? Not as much. And the reason why I'm not as concerned about that is because I think, you know, talking to Secretary Rubio about this, I think that if the regime fell, we will find some ways to stabilize Cuba and actually be a launch point for aid. And assets and investment to go into Cuba from Florida.

Best of luck. A lot of people in Florida just heard you. And I'll be in Pensacola on Saturday night at 8 o'clock. And I'll ask people: what do you think about Congressman Donalds being Governor Donalds? And I'm sure you're going to get a lot of applause.

Congressman, thanks so much, Congressman. You'll listen to Brian Killmee, Joe. Don't move. Radio that makes you think. This is the Brian Kill Me Show.

For a regime infected by the Muslim Brotherhood, an extreme movement that hates America and chants death to America from that side of the spectrum, I don't think they should be given F-35s or the engines for their fighter jets because that'll upset the power balance in the Middle East, which is ultimately guaranteed by Israeli air superiority and also by America's posture in the Middle East. And that is Benjamin Etan Yahoo with me earlier this week, I think on Tuesday, where he said, do not sell the F-35s to Turkey. And the president indicating he might. Michael Rubin joins us now, Director of Policy Analysis for the Middle East Forum. Michael, welcome back.

You think the president should sell? Yeah. Those uh those F thirty five? No, Brian, I actually think the President shouldn't. But I'll actually give a different reason than Prime Minister Netanyahu.

Iran Turkey has Amen. A growing Defense industry. And they haven't been shy about their desire to compete with American arms. When President Obama Transferred drones to Turkey. They were reverse engineered, and now Turkey sells tens of billions of dollars worth of drones not only to our allies, but also to our adversaries.

What I'm afraid is Turkey talks about its own stealth jet fighter. That it wants to reverse the F reverse engineer the F-35 and use everything which the Americans have invested in. for their own industries. I don't think that's making Amer America great. They would give it to Iran perhaps 'cause they're friends with Iran, right?

Well, Trump himself said, Brian, that he talked Erdogan out of joining the war on Iran's side. But if we want to go back, the Turkish Air Force has run war games without forewarning NATO first with both the People's Republic of China and also with Pakistan. That's not the type of ally that we should be allowing to have the F-35 joint strike fighter. Have you heard that before, that Turkey wanted to join the war with Iran?

Okay. I'm not sure whether I believe it, but President Trump himself had said that in the context of talking about how persuasive President Trump was to talk President Erdogan out of this. This was in the same speech when he talked about bringing a big gift bag. to Erdogan when he came and visited him at NATO.

So, you have a recommendation of what Israel should? They look at Iran as an enemy, should they?

Well, certainly they already look at Iran, but I think they need to look at Turkey as well. No, I mean Turkey, excuse me, on Iran. It's Turkey as an enemy, should they? Let me put yes. The short answer is yes.

More directly, Brian, I think countries are at their strongest when they calibrate their foreign policy towards reality rather than wishful thinking. And what do you think? People just say, remember, NATO can't be a problem as opposed to reality how they're acting?

Well, you know, it's both how they're acting, but it's also the question of listen to other NATO members. Turkey has been harassing Greece. It's been claiming Greek territory. It's been harassing the European Union. It's recently transferred F sixteen's to Northern Cyprus without in violation of the American end use agreements.

It increasingly looks that like Turkey is more intent on harassing European states and Greece, a NATO member, than it is in fighting Russia. And remember, Turkey doesn't really sanction Russian oil. It's become the major money laundering hub for Russia today.

So let's talk about. What we learned today, we know the President is now meeting with the Syrian leader. How do you view Syria and this leader? We know about his al-Qaeda background, unfathomable day. He's running the place, but he has been more of a stabilizing force than Assad, I'll tell you that.

He's not barrel bombing his people, he's trying to stabilize his country. Where do you rank this leader, ally or enemy? Um I'm still undecided. Look, Brian, you know I went to Syria recently, and I'm sitting here talking to you from Benghazi, Libya. The fact of the matter is, when I went to Syria, what was very clear is that Ahmed al-Shara only controlled certain neighborhoods of Damascus.

And then idlet. When he doesn't even have control over his whole true faction, the Hayat Tahir al-Sham, and therefore, I just wouldn't want to put all our eggs in one basket for someone that's afraid to drive across the city of the capital city of the country he says he runs.

Well, the one thing we like is Iran no longer has a presence there, correct? That we do like. The question is whether Turkey is becoming as much of a problem. And you know, while Iran had long cultivated groups like Hamas, Today, Hamas's headquarters is in Istanbul, Turkey, just a couple hundred miles from where President Trump is in Ankara, Turkey.

So we believe that they are sustaining Hamas, correct? They absolutely are sustaining Hamas, not only sustaining Hamas financially, they're allowing Hamas to plan terrorist attacks from on Turkish soil. Where would you say the Gaza rehab is right now? The Gaza rehab is certainly out of limelight, but look. When we're talking about the deal and the peace agreement, The second item that was supposed to be accomplished.

Was disarming Hamas. If Hamas isn't disarmed, and if we don't hold their feet to the fire, then ultimately they're going to reconstitute. While I'm a little bit pessimistic about Gaza, this is why I'm a little bit more optimistic that President Trump isn't allowing the Iranians to do the same thing when they're purposely testing the red lines of his Memorandum of Understanding.

So when we look at Hezbollah's presence, how have they got rearmed since the devastating Pager attack and the Walkie-Talkie attack? You going after their missiles, killing Nassarella? How have they been able to sustain themselves? Have we been watching money in arms flow through? even though Iran has been under economic distress?

Let me tell you this, Brian. You know that I go to Lebanon quite often. I went to Lebanon in the wake of the beeper attack, which you said. I went to Dahia, the main Hezbollah neighborhood in southern Beirut, and I was counting people with one eyes and missing fingers from that beeper attack. And there was not a Hezbollah flag in sight.

That was last November. I went back a week and a half ago. There were Hezbollah banners all over the place. On the airport road, there were big signs, billboards, that said thanks to Iran. I saw flags of the Islamic Republic of Iran, and I saw posters of Qasem Soleimani, the late head of the Qutz force that Donald Trump had killed in Baghdad back on January 3rd, 2020.

The point of this is, I didn't see a single Lebanese flag. And so, from a Lebanese point of view, a Hezbollah point of view, they've been looking at this memorandum of understanding as snatching victory from the jaws of defeat. And that's why perhaps Donald Trump is right to reconsider.

Now last year I went to Cote d'Ivoire in Western Africa. And of course, across many of these West African states, the largest business leaders are actually the Lebanese diaspora. And what I was looking at was money laundering going into Lebanon, from West Africa, from South America. Here's the point. While Israel had taken out much of Hezbollah's military, They hadn't taken out the economic network, nor had we.

I was meeting with a senior Lebanese official a week and a half ago, and he said the biggest problem he has with the United States is that the U.S. Treasury Department, because of its own bureaucratic inertia, is so slow at designating Hezbollah money launderers when the Lebanese government provides the Americans with information about it.

So I do think we need to be much more serious and holistic if we expect to have a victory over Hezbollah.

So here's President Trump on how he feels about Iran right now after they hit thr uh five merchant ships in two days. Cut to the Is the MOU dead? That's a very interesting question. To me? I think it's over.

I don't want to deal with them anymore, they're scum. You know what scum is? They're scum, they're sick people. They're led by sick people. And uh they're vicious, violent people.

And if they had a nuclear weapon they'd use it. As far as I'm concerned, it's over. I'll speak to our negotiators. So And then he said, you know, negotiators want to talk, they can talk. I look at it as over.

The markets don't like that, down 500 points. The President says I'm going to hit him again tonight. What do you think, Michael Rubin?

Well, you know, I think the President is right to do this in this case. You know, Brian, that from time to time I talk to the Iranians. And what I've always told the Iranians is that President Trump is different from every other President because he's much more willing to talk to people. But unlike Joe Biden, unlike Barack Obama, he's also much more willing to walk away if he senses insincerity. He walked away from North Korea, he's walked away from others.

In this case, the Iranians were testing him, and he's going to teach the Iranians a lesson. That said, I think that President Donald Trump's negotiation with Iran was bound to fail for a simple reason. He was negoti - I mean, to make a real estate analogy, he was negotiating with the doorman of a skyscraper rather than the owner of the skyscraper. The fact of the matter is, Mohammed Bakr Khalabaf, the Speaker of the Parliament, doesn't have the power. He's not in charge inside Iran or in the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps, and therefore any promises which he makes were meaningless.

So who do you deal with? Who would be a dealer? This is what I would deal. The person in charge of Iran is Ahmed Vahidi. Who used to be the Minister of Defense.

But you really have two choices. He's with the IRGC now, right? All of these guys are somehow affiliated with the IRGC, but you're absolutely right. He's with the IRGC.

Now, you have two options. One is if you want to deal with Mohammed Bakr Kalabaf, You have to understand that the knives are out for him inside Iran, and you have to eliminate all of his competitors so he's the only person in the room. Otherwise, what you need to do is have a list of people ranked by power. You ask Ahmed Vahidi, will he negotiate? He says yes or no.

If he says yes, you negotiate. If he says no, you eliminate him and go to the second in the list. And I guarantee you, by the time you get to point person three, four, or five, you're going to have someone who's going to negotiate with you. And if you have someone who's not going to negotiate with you, Then ultimately, you shouldn't pretend that they don't exist because, as we saw with three ships getting attacked. They do exist.

One other thing I would do if I were Donald Trump. Brian, I would ask, or I would have Steve Woodcoff, his chief envoy, Ask Mohammed Baker Khalibaf. Who was the one who gave the order to hand them over and either? Kalaboff can. Or he can't.

But if he can't, that's a sign that Kalaboff is the wrong person.

So who gave the order to hit the merchant ships? Yeah. Um that's interesting. The only people that are really good at eliminating Iranians are the Israelis. The presidents were reluctant to maybe get the Israelis back in the fold at this point.

Even though I think they're going to act on their own behalf at some point when it becomes clear what we're doing.

So what would be your next move?

Well, I always try to remind people, and I say this as a military analyst. Um that the Israelis Drive more German submarines than the German Navy does.

So, the Israelis are capable and they have the intelligence to do what they're going to do. What I'm told. Is that during Operation Epic Fury, the Americans and the Israelis worked together with such interoperability, it even exceeded the way the United States and the United Kingdom worked together during World War II? We were that close, and if President Trump wants to farm out certain missions to the Israelis in the Venn diagram of national interests, I have no doubt that the Israelis could probably accomplish what's needed.

So, Michael Rubin. in the weeks that they were fighting together. Was there something wrong with, and I asked Netanyahu this, the Prime Minister, this on Tuesday. Was it in retrospect? Was there something about that battle plan?

Or about the Iranians' resistance that surprised you or that fell short.

Okay. Um first of all There is a discrepancy between Trump and Netanyahu on what came next. Netanyahu really liked the former crown prince, Reza Pahlavi. As far as Trump was concerned, that guy failed his audition. Number two, there is genuine surprise that Iranians didn't come out to fight in the street.

Number three, however, was strategic patience. The Israelis had it. The Americans didn't.

Now, you know, I actually talked to some American targeting officers and war planners about this, and they said, no, we disprove this notion that Americans have no strategic patience because for 30 years we had been updating targets and we managed to decapitate the regime in the last weeks.

So maybe I'm wrong to talk about strategic patience, but we certainly didn't have the political patience. And look, when you have a hornet's nest, you have two good options. One is to leave it alone. The other one is the other good option is to get rid of it. But you don't want to come down the middle, lightly tapping it with a stick and then walk away.

And it seems, unfortunately, that's what the United States did in this case. Even when we were fighting, as opposed to when we walked away, while we were fighting, you thought we could have hit harder? While we were fighting, the problem was political statements that gave the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps confidence that they could outlast us, and that impedes any notion of surrender or people defecting. Interesting. Uh and now that the Internet's back together, if you hit them again, you wonder if the people were able to communicate, if that had something to do with it.

Also, Michael, in the defense of the Iranian people, they're not armed, and between twenty and forty thousand were just killed in cold blood.

So that does tend to dispirit a population. You're absolutely right. I am reminded of what happened in Serbia when Bill Clinton, however, bombed Serbia back in 1999. When that bombing campaign ended, Slobodan Milosevic remained in power. But the next year he was overthrown because Slobodan Milosevic wasn't able to pay his salaries and many of its constituencies, the top generals, had been killed.

I sort of wonder whether something could happen in that case. But my biggest fear is what you just voiced, Brian. We've never seen a regime aside from North Korea with the degree of cruelty that Iran has. They are the worst. Michael Rubin, thanks so much.

Every word you said was valuable. Truly appreciate it. Thank you. Where big stories meet bigger conversations. Stay informed and energized with the Brian Killmeat Show.

Breaking news, unique opinions. Hear it all on the Brian Kill Me Joe. For anyone watching who doesn't know, can you tell us what happened? Honestly, I just am a little sassy sometimes. And I'm good.

I've mastered at like getting in people's heads. Like, I've just mastered it. And I think that's game within the game. We just talked about it. And of course, like, I saw that I already had her.

And first of all, what actually happened though, someone got called, Caitlin got called for a technical, and both of them should have had a technical. And so I just went up to the ref and I was like, I wouldn't say you're her. I was like, shouldn't she get a technical too? And she's like, well, don't you leap leap point at me. And I was like, oh, shouldn't have said that.

And then that's where you got that photo. That's where the point is. And that was Sophie Cunningham talking about defending Caitlin Collins from a from that was Caitlin, I always say Collins, who was an anchor on CNN. Caitlin Clark, who was being stepped on again, and she's pretty much the bodyguard. She is the big blonde woman girl, very attractive.

She also happens to be a martial arts expert. And she was on with James Corden last night, just talking about what she's done. She said, this is how dumb it is, how rude they are with Caitlin Clark. She's one of the best players ever to play college basketball. Excuse me, college basketball, of course, but pro basketball.

And they're doing an advertisement for 30 years at the WNBA, and they don't put her on it. She said, they put me on it. She goes, I am not one of the best players now. I shouldn't be on it now, let alone all time.

So they just have a problem with Caitlin Clark in the league. But Sophie Cunningham has emerged as a real outlaw in a fun way. She's the one who was pointing her finger. uh at at the opponent that knocked Caitlin Clark down. Listen to the Brian Kilmet Show.

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This hour, we got a lot going on. We're still monitoring events over in Turkey, where the president had his third bilateral in three hours. His last one was with the Syrian president and Al-Shira. And I'm not too sure that he got too many questions. I was trying to watch while hosting the show, so it's not easy.

Not making excuses, just not easy. Ambassador Kurt Volcker was watching. He's going to be joining me in 35 minutes. Carl Rove is always watching. He's going to join me in two.

So let's get to the big three. Number three.

Can we put the unhinged conspiracy theories to rest? Charlie Kirk's alleged assassin hearing continues as a judge hears the evidence. And it's overwhelming that Tyler Robinson is seen on site multiple times, multiple angles, with a gun, a rifle down his leg, DNA on the rooftop, DNA on the towel covering the gun. He's got his parents and his lover. Admitting that they did it, that Tyler Robinson did it, yet these people are going for clicks and want to say that Israel's involved or Erica Kirk had her husband killed.

It is sickening and it's got to stop. Number 10. Given that you have a sort of ascendant role in the Democratic Party, could you talk about the main Senate race? Do you think that Graham Plattner should drop out of the race? I believe that it's time for him to drop out of the race.

Yeah, Mayor Mamdani, suddenly a power broker in the Democratic Party. Dem's in dire straits as. In Maine, as the despicable Graham Platinum refuses to leave without his demands being met, and there are some who believe he's not gonna leave at all with only five days left to replace him. Number one. Is the ceasefire done?

Is the MOU dead? It's a very interesting question. To me, I think it's over. I don't want to deal with them anymore, they're scum. You know what scum is?

They're scum, they're sick people. Really is. President Trump speaks at NATO as he rips our allies for being MIA on Iran, takes aim at Spain, and a ceasefire is essentially done as he pounds Iran with 80 strikes and promises to hit him again tonight. He's going to have a press conference shortly, too. Carl Rove, you know everybody knows what you do and what you know.

Your thoughts about this very transparent, impactful NATO summit. When it comes to first Iran.

Well, first of all, the President is right to be upset with the Iranians. He should not be upset with our. NATO allies. There are two of them he should be upset with. Spain refused, and France refused to allow us to use our bases there in support of the operation.

But remember, the president's angry with them for not coming along. He didn't tell them what was happening. They knew about it when the rest of the world knew about it. There was no consultation in advance. I'm not suggesting he should have consulted with them in advance.

This was a highly confidential mission launched on the basis of intelligence that the Israelis had. And the president made a decision to launch. But he shouldn't be then critical of the Europeans for not jumping aboard immediately. He didn't, you know, you need to build this kind of thing. If you want them to be there, you need to go to him as we did before Iraq and Afghanistan and say, we need your help, and would you be willing to help?

And in what ways would you be able to help? The president felt. Rightly, that he couldn't, didn't have the time and worried about the secrecy of the mission thereby. But he shouldn't now be so critical of them. What he ought to be doing is applauding the ones who are starting to muscle up like they should, like the Poles and the Czechs and the Germans and others, and be applauding them and encouraging everybody else to follow their example.

He brought about a monumental change in NATO by he and Vladimir Putin for different reasons. But Putin, because he was a threat, Trump because he was encouraging. And he ought to be encouraging these new European nations rather than castigating them all for the failures of two nations to be supportive of our efforts in the Middle East. Oh, it was interesting. At four in the morning, I don't expect you to have been up then.

I have to be and welcome it. The president had a press conference. And he was kind of mad at NATO, just like you just said. When he came back two hours later and sat with Zelensky, He said, a lot of love in the room, a lot of respect given to the U.S. for upping the amount.

And uh amount of money each year spending on the defense. And I'm thinking to myself, something happened. And it wasn't just a matter of them complimenting. My hunch is it wasn't just a matter of them complimenting about what you just said. I think they said something, because Ruda is pushing for that, on supporting the operations in Iran.

And my sense is something's going to emerge from that. I don't know if your instincts are the same.

Well, look, my suspicion is that the Europeans understand how critical an open Strait of Hormuz is to their economies and to them. I mean, 20% of the world's oil flows through that narrow strip of water. And if it is closed by the Iranians or controlled by the Iranians, everybody in the world is going to suffer, including the Europeans, even if they don't derive oil and gas from the region. But they do. They do get tremendous amounts of natural gas and oil from the region.

You know, it's to their advantage, and they do bring some capabilities, particularly on the marine side, the n the naval side, uh, to the uh efforts to keep the straight open and to diminish Iran's ability to threaten. I was talking to Congressman Byron Donalds, and he said You realize what it would have meant for us, everybody bent out of shape that he acted without permission, without warning, and everything you said is correct, and the President always does things a little bit different, the smallest and biggest things, always different. No one's going to be like him, for better or for worse. But now, since then, can you imagine if our allies, NATO, lined up to escort? Merchant ships, commercial vessels, through the strait, one after another.

What kind of message that would have sent? To insurers, to the world markets, and let alone the actual results of getting them through cleanly. And that could I'd love to see that happen still. Yeah. Well, you get more with honey than vinegar.

And the president ought to put he's really good at honey when he wants to, so he ought to be out there putting out a little bit more honey and less vinegar.

So I want you to hear what he said. Let's switch to Ukraine.

So he's sitting with Zelensky. They talked about how their relationship evolved. He says, We get along quite well now. And President Zelensky chimed in and says, and we'll continue to be. And then they had this to say about patriots, which we are short of, but listen to this.

One of the things I think we're going to be talking about today, I just, a little birdie told me this about the fact that we'll give them the right to make patriots. We'll show them how to do it. It's very complex, actually, but it's you'll figure out the complexity quickly. And we're talking about that, and we'll, the company that makes them. which is building now four plants.

You know, all of our companies will be able to do this in two to three months. If you order a Patriot, now you have to wait a long time for them. Same thing with Tomahawks. We have a lot of certain equipment, but with they call it the elite equipment. And you don't need elite equipment necessarily for a war.

So one of the things we're going to be talking about is we're going to give a license to you to make Patriots. That's pretty cool, right? Very cool. This way you can't complain that we're not giving them enough. It's a make them yourself.

We haven't informed the company of that yet, but that'll work out all right. Sure, they'll be thrilled. But, you know, they'll be able to do it. You'll be able to figure that out. Most countries couldn't do that.

If I said that to most countries, they wouldn't know what I'm talking about. But this is a very ingenious group. And what I like about that, it's a defensive situation as opposed to an offensive. But I think one of the things you might want to be talking about is that. Carl, that's something General Keen has brought up.

Mark Thiessen's talked about. Perhaps you did too. This is a great move. What hurdles remain to get that done? Any?

Well These things are easily said and difficult to execute, but if there's something that the Ukrainians have shown in the last several years, it's their ability to take these tech issues affecting defense and deal with them. I mean, they are now the nation, the world's leader in drone warfare. We're learning from them. They're supplying drones to us. And to our allies.

And I think this is a great move. And congratulations to both presidents for having arrived at this solution. And yes, this is important. We need to recognize that we need to increase our industrial base in order to be safe and to deter our enemies. But we also need our allies to be similarly positioned.

And what better place to do that than in a place where A, they're innovative and ingenious and have demonstrated their ability to handle these kind of emissions. And probably most important of all, demonstrate the need for them. I mean, they if they remember all those days, the early days of this conflict when they were expected to fold, Ukraine was expected to be gone and recovered by Russia and returned to its status of a colony. And instead, they have fought. And today, I mean, think about it, just over the weekend, 1500 miles away from the border of Ukraine and Russia, they struck the largest refinery that the Russians have in Siberia.

says something about their ability to to wage Modern war.

Well, what about Raytheon and Lockheed Martin? Do you think they'll stand in the way? Because they own the right. I mean, they own the licenses, the patents.

Well, look, they'll make money off of it. And they'll have a new partner. They'll have an additional facility to. make things. Look, I'm sure there are highly technical issues and I'm sure there's some proprietary things that they're going to be concerned about.

But this is a good business deal for them. They've got a willing partner who's willing to say, yeah, give us a license and we'll pay you for the ability to make your weapons. All right, good. That's what I'm hoping for. I was just seeing some stats on Russia.

Do you know their GDP was supposed to grow 1.4, now it's down to 0.5? Do you know that their businesses, corporate businesses, have $91 billion they can't pay on loans from the Russian government? And do you know that over 500,000 Russians have gone bankrupt? Over the last year, Something's happening with that 150 million. Person population country.

They can't replenish their troops. They're dragging them out of Africa.

So something's going on here, Carl. Yeah, they're losing. Uh Putin made a bad bet. And he's doubled down and doubled down and doubled down again and again and again. And the Ukrainians are fighting a smart war, hitting him where it hurts the most.

Think about it. People in Moscow, the capital of Russia, are standing in line for hours to get a couple of gallons of gas in their tanks. I mean, this is an economy that's hurting. And if he doesn't do something to reduce You know, reduce the threat to his economy. He's in deep trouble, and I don't see what he can do to reduce the threat to his economy short of suspending the war.

I want you to talk politics now. Graham Platiner is one of the worst human beings, let alone candidates you can imagine.

Now it comes out with two separate women and a third perhaps coming out accusing him essentially of rape. And saw the New York Times looks as though they were caught soft pedaling the entire thing. But before we talk about Karl Rove's opinion of Plattner, this is what Democrats were saying just a week ago: Cut 15. I haven't followed the minute by minute of what's happened over the last few days, but I do think there's a difference. I'm going to do everything I can to make sure that Graham Plattner is the next senator from the state of Maine.

He did two, three tours of duty in Iraq. He came back with a PTSD. That's not an excuse, but he said that he had a problem with alcohol. He had an ugly period in his life. And he believes that he has transformed.

And do you believe the women who have accused him of sexual misconduct? Look, I don't know what you're talking about. What I know is that Graham Plattner is out talking to the people of Maine. He's not leaving, Carl. He's got five days to leave, and so far he's not leaving.

This was a guy that, at the very least, was caught throwing a woman into the room, bruised her, was extremely rough with her, let alone everything else he's done with Purple Heart recipients, horrible things he said about women, horrible things, calling himself a communist and a socialist with a Nazi tattoo. How where do you go from here?

Well, I can't see how he can continue, but he may have enough of an ego that he thinks he can. He's got until, I think it's Monday, to withdraw, and then they've got two weeks to replace him. But it's a mess, and they deserve every bit of it. I love it. Elizabeth Warren.

He's talking to the people. Yeah, a rapist, probably, maybe two-time rapist, you know, certainly a thug, certainly an, you know, oh, yeah, I didn't know it was a Nazi emblem. Yeah, really. I'm a military historian and I'm an expert in modern warfare, but I, but geez, that's a surprise. You really mean the Totenkopf is really like a German, the SS, you know, tattoo?

I mean, please, the guy's a guy's the guy's a creep. And the Democrats rallied around him because he had new energy and he seemed to have a, you know, a life story that, you know, PST and a veteran and, you know, but, you know, couldn't work, you know. And then it turns out to be, you know, only has a house because of the VA, and it all turns out to be a fraud. He's a rich kid who went to an elite school and gets a loan from his daddy to get to buy his house. And, you know, is a quote oysterman who doesn't make any money, but his wife gets paid by the oyster company, and he sells the oysters to his mommy.

I mean, come on. This is just. Correct. Does this give the Democrats a resuscitation of a chance to win that seat? Because you got to think that any candidate would be better than Graham Plattner.

Against Susie Collins. Yeah, maybe, but I mean, I think that the Democratic Party in the state is damaged goods. And think about who they have. They've got, you know, the woman who came in third in the race for governor and the former Senate president who came in fourth, and this person and that person. I mean, you know, none of them are, you know, maybe lightning will strike and they'll pop onto the stage and everybody will be excited.

But I think the Democratic Party in Maine has got a problem with having fielded and gotten enthusiastically behind a creep. Abdul El-Al Seed is running against. Against Haley Stevens for the Democratic nomination. If you want Mike Rogers to win, who do you hope emerges?

Well, I'll sahid. I mean, he's a far left winger. He is uh said incredibly um unbelievable things. He's for the, you know, the squad agenda and anti-Israel. And I think Mike Rogers would, who's, you know, Hailfellow, well-met, sort of the kind of guy that you'd be comfortable leaning over the back fence and saying you want to come over for a beer and abroad.

I mean, I think Mike stands a good chance. He came within two-tenths of winning it last time around. And I think, particularly against El Saheed, he'd have a great shot. Unbelievably qualified. FBI, military background, Senate House Select Committee.

So unbelievably qualified. And really smart guy and really nice guy, too. I mean, that's one of the great things. That's how I describe Carl Rove: smart and nice guy. Yeah, well, he's Michigan nice.

I'm sort of. Texas Norwegian nice. Carl Robe, thanks so much. We really learned a lot. Always.

Thanks so much, sir. Thanks, pal. All the best. Back in a moment.

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There was a real significant chance in that game against Egypt that this Argentina was going out. But they have arguably the greatest player in the world who seemed today, Mossy. I don't know if you got this sense that there was something. There was something more at stake, other than just getting back to the World Cup. And I don't doubt he wants to get back to the World Cup.

But the way that he played and the emotion that he showed in. This comeback was something to behold. Lexi Law is talking about Argentina being down 2-0 to Egypt late, them scoring three goals. And one of the reasons why I believe I can answer Lexi is he missed the penalty kick.

So if they lose by one goal and he's 38, 39 years old, Figure he's not coming back again to the World Cup. I wouldn't think, but he's already defied logic.

So this is his last World Cup game, knowing that his missed penalty kick would cost his team a chance of repeating as World Champs. That would be enough. But I'll tell you, this is twice. First against Cape Verde, they were down. They came back and then helped came back again.

So then they have this against Egypt. We'll see what they're going to do next. And it's going to be interesting to see the matchups Iran in. We know that 42 million people, if you take Fox's ratings, and you take Telemundo's ratings. 42 million people watched the U.S.

team play, and they just was so terrible. And they know it, and they've said it. France against Morocco, this is the quarterfinals. Spain against Belgium, Spain, please win 100-0. Norway against England, I want them both to win.

Argentina, Switzerland, it's gonna be fantastic. What a great World Cup. The talk show that's getting you talking. You're with Brian Kilmead.

I think that now initiative moved to our hands. Not totally, but moved. We are trying to move this world to the sky, from the battlefield. That's why we now began to control the battlefield. This is very important.

It's difficult when you have less people to move them back. But we found another way how to do it, to cut uh their logistics for their army. It's about weapon, petrol, diesel, without basic human losses. That is the difference between us, by the way.

So that is President Zelensky talking about how he's changed the complexion of the war by bringing it to the air, technically without an air force, with a drone force, and then got a few eventually got a few F sixteen s when we were able to train pilots on them. But you remember, that was been slow walked entirely by Joe Biden. To the point where he said no, then eventually said yes, and we'll take a few and then we'll begin to train. We'll wait six months to train them. But President Trump ended up giving it to him.

Ambassador Kurt Volcker joins us now. Ambassador, we've been in this war now for not we, but the Ukrainians and Russians have been fighting now for five years. Do you think that this is coming to an end? I think it's changed decisively. Ukraine now has an advantage.

Drone attacks, counter drone, electronic warfare, long range strikes, medium range strikes, logistics. Ukraine is doing very, very well. Their weak point is air defense, where Russians have missiles that can get through. And that's where President Trump's decision to license the Patriot technology so they can build their own Patriots. That's a huge step there.

But I think it has turned, and eventually, Vladimir Putin is going to need a ceasefire. Does he know it? I mean, has he ever shown any sign of a ceasefire? I mean, in anything he's ever done his entire career? Right.

Now, he will never show weakness. He'll never admit that he needs anything. He'll always want to put on that bravado. But the reality is coming down on him. Their finances are not going to sustain this war, and their recruitment is not going to sustain the number of losses they're having on the battlefield.

So this is coming down on him, and you can see it.

So I'm looking at some of the stats. Do you know the Russian economy was supposed the GDP was supposed to grow at 1.3, which is terrible.

Now it's downgraded to 0.4? Do you know 500,000 Russians have just declared bankruptcy in the last month or so? And do you know also their businesses, corporations owe $91 billion to Russian banks? They're unable to make this stuff. A lot of this stuff is weapons manufacturers.

So it does seem like it's collapsing. At the same time, they have enough drones to wreak havoc on Kyiv. Yeah, it's the missiles that are really the worst. The drones the Ukrainians have gotten shooting down now. The Russians will send 400 to 600 a night.

Ukrainians will shoot down 85-95% of them. But ballistic missiles or cruise missiles, they get through and they are really wreaking havoc. But you're totally right about the economy, Brian. And I don't believe those statistics even. I don't think that they actually have positive economic growth.

I think it's in the red already. They have very high inflation. They are losing their oil export and oil refining capacity.

So a country that's supposed to be an energy powerhouse actually has gas lines all over the country now because they people can't get enough gasoline.

So the president's over, and he's going to have a press conference, I think, shortly, but he's already had three.

So he this morning was really upset with our allies, NATO allies, and he talked about not letting us use our bases, and I don't blame them. But on the second hand, when he came out, he said there was a lot of love in that room and respect towards the United States. And I was wondering what you heard, Ambassador Volcker, about what might have gone on behind closed doors that may have changed the President's perspective. Yeah, I I think there were several countries that spoke up that praised his leadership and gave him credit for the increase in defense spending that most NATO countries have done. And they came out with statistics about how much more they are spending, what they are spending it on.

How this is going to strengthen NATO as a whole.

So I think he basically got what he wanted out of all of this. He likes to keep the pressure on, he likes to keep the criticism and the insults and singling out countries or leaders. But he also wants to take credit for having achieved something that really is pretty remarkable. Would you give the F-35 to Turkey?

Well, you have to manage one big issue, which is the S 400. If you put an F 35 in the same zone as an S 400, there is a high risk that our advanced technology will somehow make it into Russia's hands. And so we have to be very careful about that. But assuming we can manage that issue, assuming we can separate the technologies or get the Turks to give the S-400 to Ukraine or get them out of Turkey, then yes, I would do that. And I think that Turkey has been a very strong ally of the United States in many dangerous parts of the world.

And it would help cement Turkey's role within NATO. F-35 is becoming the NATO standard aircraft now. But some people worry, including Michael Rubin, he came out and said, I'm a little worried that them reverse engineering it and marketing it to some of our enemies, like who are allies. Like Iran is a friend of theirs, Russia is a friend of theirs. Yes, I think that look reverse engineering in F thirty five aircraft is not going to be an easy feat.

So I would be not so worried about that on some simpler technologies perhaps. And in terms of the use of the F thirty five by Turkey, I think the way these things work is that they we will be deployed with them. We are already in bases in Turkey. We will have a lot of interface between the U. S.

and Turkey in the way these things are developed and used.

So, I want you to hear what Olivia Beaver said of the Wall Street Journal about possible tensions within his party on this, Cut 13. I think this is another step in the direction of Republicans feeling uncomfortable with the president's policies, whether or not you hear them as loud as vocally. They tend to do things more back-channeled. But it comes after the Iran deal that you saw some of these senators being a little bit more bullish in their comments saying we don't like this deal, we think that there's too many concessions in place, and now we're possibly seeing this ceasefire starting to fall apart. In terms of the the negotiations with Turkey, I think that you're going to be seeing a lot of pushback through the back channels because you're essentially putting someone who could tilt the balance of power in the Middle East.

Your thoughts. Yeah, I think that we have a lot of interests with Turkey that overlaps. I mean, put yourself on the map where Turkey is and look around. You've got Russia, Ukraine, Black Sea in the north. You've got Iran in the East.

You've got Iraq. You've got Syria. You've got Lebanon. You've got energy resources in the Eastern Med. There's a lot where we share interests with Turkey, and we should be trying to figure out how to work together with them on that whole range of issues.

And I think we can manage the technology issue, which is real, but I think we can manage the technology issue with the F-35. Iran has a different story, and I think the person we just heard from there, she's not full right. This memorandum of understanding was pretty clumsy. It was aimed mostly at stopping hostilities and getting oil and gas prices down for a period of time before the midterm elections, but it was not resolving the Strait of Hormuz, and it was not resolving the nuclear issue. And sure enough, here we are again.

Iran is trying to close the Strait of Hormuz or assert its control over ships that go through there. We don't like that. We push back on that. But I think we're going to see this tense dynamic between President Trump and the Iranians for several more months. I don't think we're resolving it, and I don't think that the status quo is something we're going to be happy with.

Yeah, so far the market doesn't like it. We're down 800 points. And I'll say the president says he's going to hit him again tonight.

So it's up to see if Iran's going to realize they're no longer allowed to sell oil, and we hit him 80 times.

So at one point, you wonder. They realize they're not achieving any of their objectives.

So, I want you to hear just about Greenland before I let you go. The President of the United States went right back into it and said, I'm not giving up on Greenland. Cut for.

Well, that's what hurt my relationship with. NATO. Because Greenland doesn't help Denmark. Denmark doesn't spend money to really help Greenland, but it's an important part for the United States. And it's surrounded by China ships and Russian ships.

And that's not going to happen. The ships is it's not going to happen. It was Greenland that in my and it continues to be that should be controlled by the United States, not by Denmark. And at the very least, do a partnership, get some rare earth and start building up our bases, which we could start.

So your thoughts, because you are a diplomat, Ambassador. We Well, look, President Trump didn't go to Ankara to talk about Greenland. A journalist asked him a question and pushed his button on that.

So he said what he always says. The reality is somewhat different than what he described, though. We have a treaty with Denmark for 1951 that gives us the right to do anything militarily on Greenland that we're going to need to do. And the Danes support that, and they do pay money, unlike what he said. They pay money for the social welfare of the Greenlanders who live there, something we would not want to do.

And they pay for the host nation support for any bases that are there. The lack of military capacity on Greenland today is a result of decisions of his predecessors, President Trump's predecessors, who withdrew forces from Greenland. We used to have 17 bases there. We have, I think, just one right now.

So we can fix this. We're in talks with Denmark at technical military levels. We are coming up with the plans for what to do about this. I think some journalists. Just pushed his button and got him to talk about Greenland.

That's not really what he went there to talk about.

So, what I would love to do is, it looks like Scott Besson, the Treasury Secretary, has convinced our Gulf allies to give us access to their bank accounts, Iran's bank accounts that are in their country, since they've been rocketed so often and done so much damage. I think that would be great. I also would like to see Ambassador tell me if it's possible using some of the frozen funds to unfreeze to pay back to rebuild our bases. Number one, from the damage that they did, and rebuild and pay back the Americans whose family, whose loved ones have been lost or been taken hostage. Yeah, we should be so there's a difference, as your listeners will know, between frozen assets and seized assets.

And a lot of the Iranian assets are frozen. They still belong to Iran, but they can't access it. We should be taking some steps to seize assets for exactly the kind of things that you're talking about. These are deliberate acts that Iran has done to damage our bases, to damage infrastructure, to kill American servicemen. We should look at that as reparations, which is a established legal principle, and find a way to seize those assets for those purposes.

Especially if you're going to go ahead and freeze some of it. But are you agree with the Wall Street Journal that we should, now that we stopped letting them sell sanctioned oil? Should we put keep those sanctions on, take that off the table? We should never have lifted the sanctions. And I hope that we take advantage of the opportunity to put them right back in place again.

Because I can understand President Trump making a call that we don't want to be in a major war with Iran. We can kick the nuclear issue down the road for a while. We can try to get this straight open. But unleashing the assets, giving them money, helping them sell oil globally, this doesn't make any sense. We should not be doing any of that.

Ambassador, it's a very fluid time, a very interesting time. Thanks so much for joining us. Everything's on hyperspeed these days. It is. It is.

Good to talk with you, Brian. Same here. Back in a moment.

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He's a homophobe. Yesterday I was sort of on the fence. I'm like, character matters. Morals matter. If I lived in Maine, I would hold my nose and I would pull that lever and I would vote for him.

I would vote for Platinum. I would. I think he should step down at this point. I think there's no question about that.

So she's saying this all in June, and now we're in July, and now a woman comes out and goes, Yeah, I dated him for a while, he raped me. And then the other woman just came out that was in the New York Times and says, Yeah, it did the same thing to me. Why you guys did it? And the New York Times didn't write it is unbelievable. And then they every sitting senator, including Bernie Sanders, who propped him up.

They said he should leave. But he's not leaving. Evidently, he wants to pick his replacement. He won the nomination.

Now, most of this stuff was two-thirds of this stuff was out already, and he ran away with the nomination. The governor kind of dropped out, so you had no competition. But still, he became the Democratic nominee to take on Susan Collins. I'm looking at the Washington Times today, and I believe it. They say that the only reason why Democrats have even turned on him is because he's losing to Susan Collins already.

Susan Collins, notoriously in Maine, polls badly and wins. She's already up four, and it's July. By October, this stuff comes out. It's probably going to only expand the league. That's why they decide they want to get rid of her.

Because all these new him, now that all these new revelations come out, here's Larry Sabado. He's a political expert, great friend, great guy with the University of Virginia. And they thought, you know, this they the Democrats thought That they're going to get this seat. Cut twenty-four. If the Maine Democrats don't get their act together quickly and don't manage to pick a respectable substitute nominee and don't manage to pick a process that wasn't as terrible as the one that picked Vice President Harris in 2024, then they might continue to invest in Maine.

But if that doesn't happen, I think they will end up spending the money in these more difficult places. Like Iowa, like Ohio, and maybe if they think they can win in Texas, which I think they do. But here's cut 25. They have to gain at least four seats. You never know what's going to happen with Fetterman.

It could always be five. And you look at the map, and they've got to hold two of their own in Georgia and Michigan. And Michigan's looking very iffy. Yeah, Michigan is looking like Mike Rogers, but they feel good about North Carolina. And they're starting to feel good about, not should feel good, but they think they have a legitimate shot in Ohio and Iowa.

That's a bit of a surprise. They think they have a shot in Texas. I don't think they do. It seems like Jon Thune is now getting behind, as much as he hates it. He wanted Cornyn, they're good friends.

Corny was almost the majority leader himself, but he got primarily out, loses to Ken Paxson when the president endorsed Ken Paxon.

So now it looks like they're getting behind him because the roundifications of losing Texas are just too great. It could be the majority.

So that is something I think that is probably going to go the Republicans' way. They have to hold the Senate. If the president wants to do anything like get anybody confirmed that might want to retire, step aside, like a Supreme Court justice, he's got to hold the House.

So it's uh it's likely I think they're gonna they're sent it. I mean it's likely they will. I thought it was really interesting.

So, one of the accusers, both the accusers, two of the three that we know of, are former girlfriends.

So the one's name is Lindsay Fifield. And she came out left two weeks ago, and the New York Times wrote it. And they said, Well, it looks like she's a Republican. Really? But she said she was attacked, was assaulted.

And then it turns out this other former girlfriend comes out and says, Yeah, he assaulted me, he raped me essentially. And she's a Republican, she's a Democrat. She says, My politics I agree with him, but I can't allow this to happen for people to think that he's not a horrible person, got blackout drunk and attacked me. And I really want to get into the details.

So Lindsay Fifield put this on line less sign on X. Jenny and I, that's her name, have never met or spoken. Both shared with these reporters terrifying similar details of intimate partner violence, coercive control, and cycles of abusive and love bombing. The third unnamed woman in the story did as well. But tell me again.

How they could not corroborate because they told everybody that the woman who came out yesterday and sat down with Politico and with Jake Tapper on CNN. They said the New York Times couldn't write the story because they couldn't corroborate it. They could have gone to her, they could have gone to another one, they could have gone to her therapist, but they decided to have to put in the Times. Because the Times, just like when they said the laptop wasn't real and the Russian hoax was authentic, they want to control your point of view. The Washington Post has gotten better on it.

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