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Markwayne Mullin: Reacts to SCOTUS striking down Trump’s executive order

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June 30, 2026 2:30 pm

Markwayne Mullin: Reacts to SCOTUS striking down Trump’s executive order

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June 30, 2026 2:30 pm

The Biden administration's handling of immigration and border control has been criticized by the current administration, which claims to be taking a stronger stance on national security and asylum seekers. The Secretary of Homeland Security discusses the challenges of dealing with phony sponsors and the importance of enforcing laws related to temporary protective status. The conversation also touches on the Supreme Court's ruling on birthright citizenship and the potential for bipartisan support on immigration reform.

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Again, it is my time. 3,900 children were separated from their families. 450,000 kids were lost in 50 years. Mr. Secretary, Mr.

Secretary, do not interrupt. Why don't you point your finger at me? Don't interrupt me. I will point my finger at you. Don't you be a hypocrite then?

You should be as upset about the 450,000 kids that were lost. You didn't say a word about it. For four years, you never said a word. Mr. Secretary.

You could put him in his place for him. And that was some of the brawling that went on with Secretary of Homeland Mark Wayne Mullen as the former senator went down there just to explain how things were going and how they're working to get the missing children and those phony sponsors that showed up during the previous four years and took kids that we no longer can find. And Congressman Rosa DeLoro, I think, wanted to just score political points.

So with me right now is the former senator and Secretary of Homeland Security, Mark Wayne Mullen. Your thoughts about some of those exchanges that you were forced to endure in trying to explain what's happening with immigration. Unfortunately, Democrats, they want to ignore the four years of the Biden administration. And the thing that gets, I think, most people's blood boiling, especially mine as a father of six. Is when they start talking about these kids, you said the phony sponsors.

Some of these sponsors had picked up 18 to 20 kids. When we go to find them on the addresses that supposedly had, they're not there. I say we, HSI and DHS, working as a coal together, has located 147,000 of these kids. 147,000.

Now, if you start thinking about that, What? On those, where's the other 300,000? And the Democrats don't want to say a word about this, not a single word. And it's frustrating because we have the most horrific cases that you can imagine, Brian. We have some young ladies that we rescued out of a hotel.

That is sitting there saying that they are raped six to 700 times. When I say young ladies, They're 16 years of age, and some of them have been in this. Sex trade and slavery, if you want to call it, trafficking, for two years. They were stuck in a room, having to forced to be with men, raping them 15 to 20 times a day, seven days a week, 365 days a year. And the Democrats don't want to just go over it and they want to talk about that.

The president and this administration is being extremely strong on betting the individuals when they come to our border. We're no longer letting sponsors come in and take these kids unless we know who they are.

Well, also, when it comes to the border, I've been down there a few times, obviously, not as much as you. And one thing, if you come up and say, I'm leaving under duress or I fear for my life and my country, they got to stay. But if you ask the right questions, you say, well, could you have gone to another part of your country? And you're supposed to go into the first country you step into, you don't end up in the United States, so they would get expelled. But now, the previous administration said, stay here until we get to your case.

They would stay, and the backlog was 10, 15 years. What's different now?

Well, first of all, we have an agreement with Canada and Mexico called the First. Country.

So Canada and Mexico are considered safe countries.

So they can't claim technically asylum coming in from Mexico and coming in from Canada unless they're claiming it against Canada and Mexico.

So asylum cases are very difficult if you process it by the law, which Congress passed. But what we're doing on these asylum cases is we're clearing the books, what we call clearing the books. We're working together closely with the White House. And to be quite frank, Stephen Miller has done a phenomenal job understanding this system very well that the Democrats just over, I wouldn't say overused, they abused. And so we got a team stood up that we check those individuals that's claimed asylum.

Are they where they say they're supposed to be? Because they're on parole. Technically, if you claim asylum, you're paroled. And so if you don't inform us that you have moved or informed us that your phone number has changed or your status has changed, then you are in violation of parole.

So we're going through all those asylum cases and checking them. overwhelmingly no surprising They're not there. Their phone number doesn't work. Their addresses aren't there. And so then we immediately put them underneath an arrest warrant because they violated their parole, and we start hunting them down.

So we're, and we did a strong enforcement of that this weekend, and we set records that ICE was arresting individuals all across the country. We arrested 3,500 people a day, average, Saturday and Sunday, and a big chunk of those were either TPS violators or asylum violators that had violated their parole.

So when you have the elimination of temporary protective status, The word temporary is there for a reason. It was a crisis in Syria and a crisis in Haiti. And now you're getting pushed back that you're cruel in saying these part. You had the Republican governor of Ohio over the weekend saying that, you know what, these Haitians are now part of our community. They're giving us health care and daycare.

They're teaching our kids, watching our kids. Let them stay. The problem is, it's temporary. I don't enforce laws, or I don't make the laws, I enforce the laws right. Temporary status was temporary status.

The court's already ruled on this. Supreme Court.

Some of these cases have been here for 15, 20 years. I understand that. But during that 15 and 20 years, you had an opportunity. To change your status, you chose not to because you understood it being temporary, too.

Now that the court has ruled, it's too late. You got to go home. You can go back, and there's two options here: you can go back on your own, meaning that you can choose to be deported. We will give you a $2,600 check, we'll pay for your airline ticket, you can go back to the country you came from or country you choose, and then you can fill out the proper immigration paperwork and try to come back in this country legally. If we have to go find you and we deport you, you don't have the option to come back to this country.

So, if they were good people while they were here and do things the right way since that decision came down, will they have a better opportunity to come back? They would have a better opportunity to come back. I can't guarantee that you still got to follow our immigration system because those are what the laws are for, but it's too late now.

Now, that you because you didn't do that, you can't do it. It's you can't. You need to be proactive, not reactive.

So you can't be reactive and filling that paperwork out now. It's too late. You have to go back now. Mr. Secretary, this just broke, so I'll read it together and we'll digest it.

The Supreme Court has ruled against President Trump's hope to eliminate birthright citizenship restrictions. It was a 5-4 decision, and they said it violated the 14th Amendment guaranteeing automatic American citizenship for anyone born in the United States and issued the executive order. The President signed on the first day back in office to redefine it. Um and we know the case uh Trump v. Barbara, a pseudonym for the Honduran citizen who fears or her or family safety if she was expelled.

So the birth tourism that the Chinese possibly are greatest abuser of. That so far it stays in play, and we kind of got an indication on a 5-4 decision when John Roberts said, Yeah, things have changed, but the Constitution hasn't.

So Your reaction, because this directly affects you. Yeah, I'm not going to get ahead of the president here, but I will say I adamantly disagree with the spirit of the 14th Amendment on what the Supreme Court ruled here. I'm not an attorney, definitely not a judge, but I disagree with the court's decision here. In my opinion, If you look at the historical reason the 14th Amendment was put in place. The way that it's being abused today wasn't the intention of the 14th Amendment.

But like I said, I'm not going to get ahead of the president on this, but I adamantly disagree with the Supreme Court.

Well, I mean, the strongest argument you guys had, and I think birthright citizenship has been abused, it's been abolished in almost every Western country.

So it's not Donald Trump. It's keeping up to what's going on and trying to respond to what some of our adversaries are doing, and that is having kids here that become citizens and be part of the social spending. Here's what ends up happening in a lot of these cases: you have these adversary countries that come in, they have a child, they raise a child back in China or whatever, and since they're a citizen, they come back over here where they've been indoctrinated. I'm sorry, if you're raised in a communist country, there's a good chance, and you're able to travel back and forth. There's a good chance you've been indoctrinated.

I'm not saying completely, some people break away from it because they don't believe it. But there's a reason why we have adversaries just abusing this system.

So, in the 5-4 decision, it doesn't say here who voted for whom, but I will say this, just to further what you were saying about the 14th Amendment. After the Civil War, there were people in the South that says, I don't think slaves should be citizens. And the president at the time says, okay, we're going to pass an amendment that says if you're born here, you become a citizen. I'm pretty sure that's not the circumstances now. That's right.

So I don't know if legislation can do it, but I don't think it's in Democrats' interest to have birthright citizenship either. I've seen Democrats point to China as our number one adversary, looking up to infiltrate every element of society. And we know China is the number one. one abuser of this law. Do you think you can get any bipartisan support to do something through legislation?

Well, I think if you looked at this from a strict national security issue, I believe you could, but the problem is the Democrats, they don't believe in that right now. Remember, this is the same Democrat Party that defunded ICE, our Immigration and Custom Enforcement Agency. This is the same Democrat Party that just elected. True communists in New York, including the mayor and three other individuals.

Well, I haven't elected them, but push them through to the general election. This is the same Democrat Party that wanted to, or try to defund our custom and border protection, meaning they want open borders.

So, this is the same party that defunds police.

So, I can't, they don't look at it. You're not optimistic. No, I'll just tell you this: underneath the Biden administration to date, of who they let come into the United States, because they had open borders for four years under the Biden administration, correct? I mean, we let millions, upwards of 20 million people come in. Underneath the Trump administration, we have arrested over 1,900 known terrorists, not individuals that are on terrorist watch lists.

These are known terrorists that the Biden administration let come into this country. And because of Trump's policies on enforcing our laws and going after the worst of the worst, we're able to round up 1,900. That's all we know of right now. We're still finding these people every single day. Explain to me what the Democrat Party was.

Think at the end.

So, if you want to look at it from national security, yes, it should be a bipartisan issue. But unfortunately, we don't have a Democrat Party that thinks that way today. All right, Mr. Secretary, if you could stick around a couple of minutes, I know you've got to run back to the White House, too. There's much more going on.

But again, birthright citizenship has been struck down. Looks like Roberts voted with the liberal justices to weigh that decision in a different direction. And I guess, was it Amy Comey Barrett that also did that? Allison, it was Barrett, too.

So those two came back against it. One, George W. Bush, put in power, nominated and confirmed, and the other one, John Robertson, of course, Amy Cody Barrett by the President of the United States. All right, the Homeland Security Secretary is here. Back in a moment, you'll listen to the Brian Kilmead show as we celebrate Year 250 in our nation's capital.

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You're with Brian Kilmead. All right, Homeland Security Secretary Mark Waymoen is here for a few more minutes, saying he's got to rush back to the White House. Mr. Secretary, first off, we just had another ruling come down that basically allows more coordination between this. It's considered a Republican win.

I'm not sure you're allowed to respond to. If you were Senator, you could. But just for everyone at home to understand, it allows more coordination between the candidate and their super PACs and their party. It thought to be a Republican win because they're the one who challenged it. But I just saw, just in talking with you.

Democrats seem to have more multi-billionaires than Republicans easily. What do you think about it? Seems like the Republicans are the party of the working class. You think about Georgiros, he's already pumped in $105 million in this cycle. $105 million.

It's scary the amount of money that a guy can influence politics with. And of course, Democrats are always saying that they don't get bought, but you can tell their politics has swung ever since Zuros' team got involved in this because they have done no telling how many millions, if not billions, of dollars in campaigns, not just in the U.S., but around the world. And he pushes this socialist and at this point, I would almost say communist party that is coming to bear with the Democrats at this point. But you look at the Supreme Court rulings, the president's had unbelievable wins in this. I mean, we've had some great wins when it comes to immigration.

Birthright citizenship is tough. I disagree with the court on this. But you start looking at this Republican win here. You start looking at men and women's sports. Game down.

Yeah, this is. This is some great wins for the president reinstoring. Just sanity, common sense. to to what our our our our our political fights have been over.

So yesterday, three MS members, three MS13 members who have committed nine murders over a year in Nevada and California, including kidnapping, killing, and torturing people, were deported. Two from El Salvador, one from Honduras. Uh This is as bad as it gets. What could you tell me about this?

Well, 70%. I can't talk about those specific cases. The reason being is because some of them still have pending charges and they're going to be charged in El Salvador, the country to which they go back to. Is that guaranteed before you send them back? In most of these cases, otherwise we would hold them accountable for them.

But some of these have international arrest warrants on them and Interpol.

So when we arrest them, we send them back. But they're ongoing cases, we're told not to visit about them. But let me just. Explain it to your listeners. 70% of every person that we arrest and deport on a daily basis.

Have felony charges either pending or have already been charged at the time of the arrest and when we deport them out of the United States.

So, all this talk saying we're rounding up these people that's been here for 20, 30 years, and all they're wanting to do is work. Yes, some of them get caught up in that. But 70% of them are true criminals.

So, when the president says, and when I say we're going after the worst of the worst, That's exactly what we're doing. And even the court upheld with when you have LPR, which is a green card, legal permanent residence, if you commit a felony, you no longer have status in this country. We're able to deport that. Thank goodness the Supreme Court upheld that. We knew that to be true.

But when you violate, American law, and you're not a citizen here, you have no right to stay here anymore.

So, ABC came out with a poll, came out in the study, and they said only 3% of the people in custody right now have committed a crime. Not true. 70% of the daily individuals that we arrest have either now. They have pending felonies or they've already been convicted.

Now, so what ABC is probably saying is: listen, they haven't technically been charged with anything. No, they have been charged, they haven't went to court on it, but that doesn't go into account the individuals that didn't commit a crime, maybe in the United States, but they're on the international list for Interpol to pick up and deport. They've only had this shot for a couple of months. 100 days, I think, today.

Okay. What's been your biggest surprise when you started looking at the portfolio and what you'd be doing? Would you know the most and would you know the least?

So, my biggest surprise are the people that work inside DHS. We hear about the bureaucracy and the government employees and lifelong employees. I'm telling you, inside DHS, all 22 components, we have nothing but patriots. We all believe in the passion of protecting the true homeland. I mean, protecting it, loving it.

Everybody is all in the same boat, rolling the same direction. That was my biggest surprise. I thought I am the luckiest man in the world. You have to cut the place. I thought we did, but we don't because I have great people working there.

Second of all, the amount of backlog that needed to be done that these people just needed a green light to go do. And that's why you're seeing our arrest numbers break records, deportation. We're going to deport more people by probably the middle of August than we deported all of last year, and those numbers are just continuing climbing. We see our legal constantly working with DOJ to have these great wins at the Supreme Court. All this stuff is us working together as one team.

And sometimes it just took us getting on the same piece of paper and understanding. What we're all doing. If he was to ask you, the President of the United States, this new homeland security, it's relatively new, like a couple of decades old, if any part could be spun out. Would you recommend any part of Homeland because it's such a behemoth? Yeah, absolutely.

There are some areas that we could probably give to other agencies because DHS, there isn't one single secretary or director that sits on the president's cabinet that I don't work with. Every one of our components interact with every one of these different agencies. And so there's some of them that we could probably fold into one of the agencies. The problem is they don't always have the same authority that DHS has. The reason why we have them is because Congress gave us really broad authorities when it comes to protecting the homeland and being able to have that cross-references with all the other agencies.

How do you sleep at night? Because there's so much to do.

Well, that isn't the problem. I work with a president that doesn't sleep.

So he's waking up. Secretary Rubio and Secretary Hank Seth and I joke all the time that we'll sleep in two years and five months because he pushes so hard, he drives us so hard, which is wonderful to have somebody that has a vision. He puts the right people in place. He allows you to go to work, but he expects. Specs excellent.

20 seconds. You have a new nominee for ICE. Lance. All right. Thoughts?

Unbelievable guy. First of all, he'll be the first one that gets confirmed in over 10 years, actually 11 years. And he is the right person for the job. And I know, Oklahoma, you can get us known. Mr.

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