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There's a lot going on in Capitol Hill. Yesterday, the president thought I thought we were going to get a new DNI, and Bill Palty was going to be pulled, and they were going to get a quick vote on a DNI and then get. and get everything FISA passed and updated with more precautions and more safeguards in it. But the President announced overseas, I'm not doing it unless I get the America First Act passed. Not the Americ yeah, uh the Save America Act.
So he told everyone, don't vote on my guy, my nominee.
So that kind of blew up everything and caught Republicans by surprise. Maybe my next guest too, Senator Tommy Tuberville, Armed Services Committee. And the senator is running for governor, got the Republican nomination, certainly to be the next governor of Alabama. Senator, welcome back. What happened yesterday?
Uh Well, basically, President Trump wasn't going to let Republicans or Democrats control his agenda, and that's what's happening right now. Brian, on the Republican side, you know, we've got about ninety percent of the Republicans that are on President Trump's side, we got about ten percent that they're gonna side with the Democrats more than President Trump. And he's he's about had it. Uh and he said, Listen, you know, I'm running this show. I'm you know Picking out the nominees.
These are my people. And you can't go around me without doing things that I've asked you to do. And he is bound and determined to get the Save America Act passed because it's probably the most important legislation in the last 25, 30 years because of all the illegals in this country.
So President Trump's fighting to back against the Republican Party because we're not getting anything done for him.
Well A couple of things. I don't know what you're going to do because Murkowski, Collins, McConnell. And probably Tillis. I'm not sure with the other. They're not for it.
So if you can't get Republicans, how are you going to get Democrats to get you to 60?
Well, you're not going to do it. And again, Jon Thun is between a rock and a hard place. If you want to be a leader, now you've got to lead.
Now you've got to make tough decisions. Do you bring those people into your office and say, listen, you want to be chairman of a committee? Fine. You vote for this. If you don't, we're going to move you back to the end of the line.
We can't worry about surviving. That's what we're doing up here right now. Brian, we're worried about surviving as a majority instead of going to win. Let's win right now and let the midterms take care of itself. But we're not winning at all.
I mean, we're getting blocked by 10% of the people when 90% of us are with President Trump and we're not making any progress.
So here's what the Safe America Act says. All voters must show ID. 80% of the country afford that maybe more. All voters must show proof of citizenship. No mail-in ballots except for illness, disability, military travel.
That might be a problem in a place like Oregon, where they've always had mail-in ballots, and there's no real thought about corruption there. But no men and women sports, no transgender Mutilization surgery of our children.
So four and five, I think, are necessary. But why are they in that act, Senator?
Well, you know, when you're in the situation that we're in up here right now and can't get anything passed, you try to maneuver your bill around to where you can get just something through. But again, it doesn't make any difference. You know, we could put in there, you know, we're going to leave December 25th as Christmas. And these people that Republicans, the Rhinos and the Democrats, they wouldn't vote for it because President Trump's for it. And it's not really about anything other than the hate for President Trump and his agenda.
And it's just unfortunate because he's the best president we've had in my lifetime.
Well, I mean, the other thing is, so this guy. I've never met him, but I think he was bipartisan support for Jay Clayton to be the next DNI. And Tom Cotton, the Republican chairman of the committee, announced at first he was going to go ahead with it. You guys are a separate branch of government. And then when the President came out and said don't do it, he decided not to do it.
So where does that nomination stand?
Well, President Trump was seeing what was going on.
Now, first of all, Bill Pulche is a good guy. He's hard-nosed. And I think that probably leaving him in there a few weeks, you might get a few surprises about what he knows and things that, you know, he can get across the go-line. And I've never seen a nomination like this go through so quickly. And for some reason, Tom Cotton was just adamant going against the president.
But he found out real quick that President of the United States runs the show. And so they didn't do it. And Bill Pulsey will be there for a while. And Jay Clayton's a great guy. He'll do good.
But President Trump put it on hold. And then again, if you saw what he said yesterday, we're not doing anything else since you passed the Save America Act. And I tell you, even some of these people that don't like President Trump better really be careful because as you said earlier, 89% of the people in this country, especially Republicans that are going to vote in November, want the Save America Act passed.
So what do you do about the Pfizer renewal?
Well, that's going to have to be adjusted. And, you know, we can do without it for a while, but we're going to need it down the line. And again, that's not the number one thing on the list right now. We have got to get something passed here that's going to help the American people feel like that they're part of the country. Right now, they're just getting shut out.
The American people have no say.
So when I go back to Alabama, they say, Coach, why should I vote? I don't feel like my vote's going to count because there's four or five illegals going to vote over top of me. We've got to give them some security that they are part of this country. And that's the reason they clung to President Trump because he ran for America First agenda. And we're not really on track with that.
He is, but the entire Republican Party, 90% of us are, but we've got 10% that's just going the other way.
So I'm looking at The Economist. They have this YouGov poll and shows that you guys, Republicans, are closing the gap on the generic ballot, getting up to the midterms. It was in double figures in 2018 when you lost the troubles, picked up a seat in the Senate, but lost. Lost the house. And now you have, it's basically a two-point difference between the two parties.
So this would totally go against a. I guess American tradition, usually the party in power gets punished in the midterms, especially in the president's last term. Why do you think you guys are gaining? I think we're gaining, number one, in the House as part of cause of redistricting, you know, the gerrymandering that the Democrats have done for years in the Northeast. It's just unbelievable how we've let them get by with that.
And so now we're correcting a lot of those mistakes. But again, in the House or the Senate, you've got a lot of dissension because there's a lot of people out there in some of these states that are voting because the Save America Act is not in, that President Trump is going to have to fight against probably 8% to 10% of people voting that hate him that shouldn't be voting.
So I think that's the reason that we're in harm's way right now when it comes to the Senate.
So, Senator, get me up to date. Senator Tommy Tuberville, our guest, longtime coach in college football, but now we're talking about reforming college sports.
So remember yesterday, you're now introducing the Student Athlete Act. How is that different from what the Senate put forward, led by Randy Levine, who's an outsider in the constant? That task force that came forward. What is the Student Athlete Act? Student athlete basically is the nuts and bolts of what we need to be doing.
You know, Ted Cruz has come up with a bill with Senator Cantwell. Here's what they're trying to do. They're trying to turn college sports into the same situation we got in with Obamacare. Do not turn college sports over to the federal government. And if we pass the Cruz-Cantwell bill, that's exactly what it'll be.
We do not need to do that. 80% of the problem, Brian, is these kids are, number one, they're not getting an education because of why? They're transferring every year. Let's have five years of eligibility, no red shirts, no exceptions, and one-time transfer, free transfer.
Now, if you want to transfer after that, you've got to sit out of your life. It's in that bill, isn't it? That's in the cruise drill bill. It's in there. But what does it say?
There's going to be a committee that will give waivers. And if you ever put an exception in there, Brian, what happens is that committee is always well, my grandmother, my junior year, she had a cold and I had to go home. Stop. Do not, we're not, we don't give waivers. Uh, you got it's a set deal.
We've got to get high school athletes back into this, quit the transferring every year. One-time transfer, if the coach leaves or whatever, something happens in the family, I'm good with that.
So, we added a one-free transfer after that. You gotta you gotta stay unless you want us transfer and set out of here, but we cannot allow waivers. And that's what their bill does. It allows waivers.
Okay, so that bothers you. Can't that be uh hashed out? And can't that be amended? Because that makes sense. What you just said makes total sense.
Yeah. Yeah. But this is a Democrat bill. To get something done, you know, we as Republicans have given to the Democrats on this. They will not change that for anything.
And I told them, hey, I might vote for this if you'll change that. No way they'll. What else bothers you about the bill?
Well, 20-person congressional committee that makes decisions in college sports. They make decisions on scheduling. They make decisions on who's in the conference, conference realignment, TV contracts. We can't get the federal government involved in college sports. It's the same thing as Obamacare.
You want to end up with a disaster? You put the federal government in charge. We can't do anything right up here. Let's just do the blocking and tackling, the eligibility, and the transfer, and let the NCAA. What about salaries?
What about salaries for the players? What about limitations? NIL screening. How do we make sure the other sports besides basketball and football continue to survive? Yeah, that's what this this bill does not do.
It does not do anything for women's sports. And so you're going it does not do anything for revenue sharing of giving money. To women's sports. Right now, there's $20 million in the big leagues that have to give out revenue sharing every year.
Well, it just goes to football. It should be dispersed evenly of every athlete, every athlete out there.
So, listen, the money's out of the bag. You know, they can go sell their name, image, and likeness. I'm fine. If they want to make $100 million a year and people are stupid enough to give it to them, let's go with it. But don't let them transfer every year.
That will stop 80% of the problems. And don't allow 30-year-olds of eight years of eligibility to play against an 18-year-old. That's wrong. Nearly home. Isn't home where we all want to be?
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And if you believe there should be a structure, who should be in charge of it? It doesn't seem like the NCAA can win a court case. Should there be a separate body? Because somebody's got to be in charge. The NFL's got a commissioner, the baseball's got a commissioner, NBA's got a commissioner.
Who should be in charge of college sports? NCAA. And as you said, they won't make a decision because they get sued every time somebody breathes. That's one other thing in this bill, by the way, this this Cruz Cantwell bill is players can sue at any time. And it looks like the trial lawyers wrote this bill.
Brown, you got to get away from the money part. The money's out there. People are going to do it. Let the universities handle their money. They're going to pay players.
But if you stop the transfer every year, you're not going to have that spurge of money that goes in there. They're going to have to get it up front. Coach, I think in every professional sport, there's a salary cap or a luxury tax. I think that if you have an infinite amount of dollars, the next Arch Manning is a senior in high school. If the same schools are, the LSUs are going to be the one getting them.
No one will ever have a shot. At the star players coming out of high school or the one-time transfer, don't you agree? I agree. But Brian, here's the deal. Federal Court system said they can make money.
And if you go after that, and try to limit the money anybody makes. Anybody makes. You can't do that in this country. It's a free country. It's capitalist.
But you can't cost your money and make the money. But you can't limit it. But there's a salary cap. There's a limit in the NBA. There's a wind in the NFL.
Okay, if you start doing that, Brian, here's what happens: you're going to have to make the players. Employees, and you do that.
Well, that's what the Democrats are looking for. Please allow us to make them employees. What do they do next? They unionize. And it will be a total, absolute disaster.
This is about education. This is about education. Have you talked to Randy Levine? No.
So you know he's the Yankee president. He's not a Democrat, as far as I know. And he's good friends with the president.
So he helped lead this up as a lawyer. And he agrees with you. They should not be unionized. And that's the one thing I could say about this bill: there's no players union in it.
Okay.
Well, this bill does not block it out. It goes, this bill says. Verbatim. We do not say whether the players can be employees. or not employees.
That will be basically decided later. That's where it's headed.
So you do this bill, it's going to be you're going to have employees in college. Playing for money. no education, and you're going to eliminate. The high school players. I mean, they're going to have to just fight their way in, walk on, try to make a name for themselves, and hope that they can prove that they're pretty good.
Nobody on this issue has more credibility than you. If you want up to if you pull these two aside. And said, I need these changes. Have you tried that and said, Can you make these changes to this bill? Because we agree somebody's got to address this.
Nobody is. They actually asked for help.
So which w if you pulled Cruz aside, he would not listen to you? Oh, I didn't but we've talked about it. I said, Ted, let's just do my bill for one year. No five years eligibility, one time transfer. Do that.
And then if you feel like that you can put the federal government in a little bit more of it, then pass that. But if you pass this at one time, it's like Obamacare, it is law. You're not changing it. I gave a speech on the floor the other day. It is set in stone and the Democrats are licking their chops if this passes because they will control all of of our basically our amateur sports, which is college.
And it just makes me sick at my stomach that we would even get involved in this. But I've talked to the President. You know, he executive ordered my bill about Two months ago, five years to play five, no red shirt, no excuses, no waivers, and at one time he executive ordered that. And uh If people would read this bill, it's 111 pages, and it says, hey, Coach, we got your ears in there. It's five for five.
Yeah, but you can't put waivers in there. You can't have a committee of people just giving waivers like giving out candy. And that's what will happen because they'll be afraid to get sued. Make the dang federal law stick. And then everything else will take care of itself.
Is there anything you could do federally? Not being a lawyer, this may sound like a naive question. Is there anything you could do to empower the NCAA? It's hard because right now, if you talk to the president, NCAA, they've got probably 100 lawsuits out there. People are going to sue for anything nowadays, and it's just, it's unfortunate.
A lot of things that they cause themselves, we told them years ago, Brian, hey, you got to give players part of this money. There's too much money out there. Give them revenue sharing. Give every player $25,000 a year of the TV. If they'd have done that, we'd have been off and sailing.
They wouldn't do it. They made some bad decisions. And when you make bad decisions, in the long run, you're going to pay for it. That's the same thing with this bill. If you put it in there, Obamacare 2.0, federal government running college sports.
My God, I'd hate to see what I'm hating to see what's going to happen because right now I think they got the votes in the Senate to pass this. I don't know about the House. I know, they have their own bill. Senator Tommy Tuberville, always great, and I can't wait for you to take over as governor. Appreciate you joining us.
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