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Captain Brett Sadler will be with us from Defend the Advanced Technical Alliance Center for National Security. He's a research fellow there. And then Dylan Nealis, one of the stars of the Red Bulls, will be breaking down the World Cup, our chances of being successful. And Lawrence Jones is here right now.

So, Lawrence, so much going on. We got primaries tomorrow. We got the Iran and Israel exchanging missile attacks. And of course, we also have. The situation in California.

Where we're supposed to tolerate. Two weeks to count votes with the crazy ballot harvesting. And voter ID that could be your gym membership. If you don't have a license, just show me you belong to Crunch Fitness.

So it's interesting because. You know, it takes them two weeks to count. And they're doing everybody gets a ballot if they're registered to vote, mail-in if they want to. The The tally is going back and forth, and it doesn't make any sense. And anybody that asked a question about.

How is this going down labeled a conspiracy theorist? It's unbelievable. This is not normal. We're not buying it. Not buying it at all.

You played that game. Not buying it at all. Now, think about this. Just let's look practically. Forget about Oz.

But what are the chances are Bass locks up first place, 34% of the vote? What are the chances that the next 40% of the vote would basically all be going days later? Yeah, be going to Ramen. Really?

So Bass is being shut out. And Spencer Pratt mysteriously is trailing by a point where everyone loves the left-wing socialists. And we're all supposed to believe it. All I'm saying is, in a normal society, even your claim. I made this point on friends earlier.

Even in a class president's race. You find out the day of.

Okay, you just find find out the day of. And it's not mail-in ballots. Everybody's ballots counted. The day of, and I'm not saying early voting can happen, but you can't have ballots just traveling through the mail. And they say, as long as it's postmarked, the day of election, then it's fine.

That's such a terrible process. Are they the worst? No one in the state does that. Does Los Angeles have the worst mailman ever? I mean, two weeks into Louisiana.

Why does Los Angeles California Express? Exactly. Here's Billy Bush. He was on with me Sunday night, Cut 15. I think Spencer Pratt, because of his ability to communicate and connect and his charisma and his ability to communicate on social media, I don't think Karen Bass can handle him.

I think it's too much for her. She doesn't know how to respond to him. She's never seen anything like this. And that's why.

Somehow, this is the break-the-glass moment that Governor Gavin Newsom talked about, isn't it?

So we can look at this. Two ways. Either the system is extremely broken in California. or they want this. They want the despair in their state, in their city, needles all over place, people robbing people at will.

Right, and the house is to burn down. I fail to believe that that's truly Los Angeles. Right. I I just can't believe that. Unless all the people that would balance it out left already.

Left in the same way they're leaving New York. And that's why we end up with a socialist who says, yeah, I'm a socialist. I don't think billionaires should exist and globalize the impetata. It's just people have a point of view. That's fine.

I don't see anything wrong with that. And you think, okay, they just eliminated themselves. He wins.

So maybe that's what's happening. You've got the extremist cities, and maybe San Francisco is a one-off. Chez Bodine gets sidelined because he wouldn't prosecute crime. They recalled him, and then they have a mayor from the Levi's family, rich. Who takes over and starts cracking down?

And I thought, this is the motto, right? You don't have to be necessarily conservative, but at least be reasonable. At least have laws. At least believe in law enforcement. Yeah.

Brian, I'm just saying all the videos I saw of people, average-day people, in the middle of the street, show that there was some sense of change coming in Los Angeles. If the the voting is what it is, it looks like they've gotten worse. Because the candidate last year what's the guy's name Recruit. Spencer Plant did worse than he did. Right.

So we've gone in reverse.

So what I did is I looked up Today, I got my tabs. I'm very proud of my tabs. Today, we started the show. I had no idea. It was a little rocky at first.

It was a little friendly because I realized I didn't do my tabs. I'm like, why am I all caught up and just talking to Lawrence and Ainsley on the couch? I go, wait, I never did my tabs. But Rick Caruso Last time basically wins election day by six points.

So he beats Karen Best by six points. And then they start counting votes and it takes two weeks. He loses by four. And no one said anything because we had so many different elections going on, right?

So many different elections.

So nobody said anything. And Rick Caruso didn't protest because he said, listen, I lost. And You would have seen Rick Caruso owns these condominiums and owns these villages and these HOAs. And when it came to those fires, that were, it was arson, by the way, he had all the roofs wet and he hired his own fire department.

So he was able to keep everybody safe. That's what you would have had in Los Angeles.

So he loses by four percentage points, right? Yeah. You got uh Spencer Pratt. That's not even cutting 30% now. What is going on?

Right. And he basically was leading in the early 2000s. 100%.

So that's crazy. The other thing that's going on today is tomorrow, Graham Plattner is going to be running for the Democratic nomination. And I believe, and you believe too, that Republicans should want him to win. Of course they want him. All this opposition research right now is coming from Democrats.

You can bet your money on it. The Republicans were saving all of their OPPO for November because that's what you do. You leave all the dirt and then you have an October surprise. Right?

So he's a nonstop threat.

So this guy is a complete disaster.

So this is the Democrats' oppo right now. Grabbing women's arms, right? Locking them in bags. Barricading them in. That's kidnapping, by the way.

He could be charged for that, right? If everything was done appropriately. Grabbing them, the women, or her abuse. Cheated on his wife.

Now he's on this site. That kids are on, right? It's called KIC. KICK. 70% of the people, I mean, intelligence have done.

A lot of research on 70% of the people on there are minors. What are you doing on there with a bunch of kids? We always have to do the legal disclaimer of: he has not been charged with anything. He has not been charged with anything involving children, but he's on the site. That is known for that.

So, good luck, guys.

So, listen, when you hear him explaining himself. Cut 18. I am very much Just some random guy from Sullivan Main. No, you know. In a moment like this in history.

If we can show That a regular person from the regular world, who simply comes out with a message saying that we all have to work together to push back against all of the structures of power that have been exploiting and oppressing us for generations, If we show that that works, We get to show this country the way forward. Excuse me. You're part of the oppression. If we go by your rules, you're a Nepo baby. Your family has money.

You are part of the oppressive class.

So he's pretending to be this average day Joe. And he's not. He just isn't. And I think the guy needs help. Right, everything that he has done, being all over the place, despite him just being a blatant racist, right?

He knew about the tattoo that also came out in the tattoo you talking about the Nazi tattoo, yeah. The Toodle Cuff or whatever his name is. Uh, apparently, his whole brigade got that tattoo. This tattoo was the Nazi prison guards, and the girlfriend told him about it, and he already knew.

So, this is documented stuff, proud of it. Proud of it.

So none of the excuses or non-apologies are passing the smell test.

So I want you to hear what he says he will do when in office.

So not only is he a terrible person with a horrible background, not only is he blaming his military service for his actions and behavior. Listen to this, Cut 19, what he would do if he got in. Congress was set up to have power. It was set up to legislate and implement it. And One of the ways that we're the only way I think that we're going to be able to deal with this is to have the United States Senate.

Re-engage with its power when it comes to the Supreme Court. And by this I mean Ethics oversight. If If the Senate chose to, It could impose the same ethic standards on the Supreme Court that we have for every other federal judge. And if we did that, I think there's a compelling case for the impeachment and removal of at least two of them.

So that's what they're going to try to do.

So he's a peach or pack. He's a maniac, and he has no basic understanding of United States government. It's a co-equal branch of government. You do not have oversight at all at any point of the Supreme Court, period.

Now, you get to approve the president's appointments. That's it. You don't get to hire him, fire him.

Now, there are impeachable offenses, but he's not even alleging that. He said he wants to manage the day-to-day of the court. I mean, come on, guys.

So now that's the serious stuff, now the fun stuff. Tonight, game three at MSG, San Antonio Spurs come to town. Nick fans greeted the Spurs bus, and they actually just were chanting as they all walked out of the bus into the hotel room to try to intimidate the Spurs who have dropped the first two games at home. You are a true blue Spurs fan. You're not just from Texas.

You care about the team. Yeah, I'm a lifelong Spurs fan. Tim Duncan is my favorite. Person and no one ever argued that New Yorkers had class.

Okay.

So that we're going to be greeted. That's true. We're going to be greeted that way. Just like they're going to assault cops outside of the state and can't even enjoy themselves. Just crazy stuff.

Just crazy stuff. But you can't deny. This is a special team. And Cat has been bullying Wimby. And I just hope that whatever coma He's in right now that he awakens.

Because we need him. He doesn't miss free throws. He doesn't miss free throws. He's good from the outside, but he's 7'5. He should go away.

He's making amateur mistakes.

So hopefully he awakens tonight.

Some people say that he's exhausted because they've limited his minutes so much and he's 23. I thought it would be the other way around. It's impossible to exhaust a 23-year-old. Here he is talking about what it's going to take to come back, cut 37. The biggest lesson is that we need to capitalize and actually use all the efforts we did because it felt like we did a lot.

We did a lot of things wrong, but we also were Relentless. and kept pushing. But Kind of like wasted that effort, even though I know it's not wasted because all lessons are learned. And I know we're not going to make the mistakes of the past again, but in a moment like this, we need to make these things better. I need him to stop talking.

Yeah. Right. Well, he's got to answer questions. He's at a press conference. Yeah, but it's like we take responsibility for I'm going to be better.

Well, he threw the ball away. He did more than that. He threw the ball away and then the game-winning shot should have never been a shot. He should have d drove the basket. And went for it.

Went for it. Take the foul. I mean, you make the rethrow. He doesn't miss. You're down by one point.

President's going tonight. Do you think he's that when they show him, what's going to be the reaction? Oh, they'll probably boo. It's New York. You know, even though he built this, it will bother him a little bit.

But I mean, what can you expect? You're in New York. That's going to happen. But I think, I actually give him credit, taking the guts to go in there, even though, I mean, this is not a crowd full of, you know, everyday New Yorkers. This is a celebrity crowd.

You can't afford it. The minimum is like $5,000 to get it.

So it's just like. This is the elites of New York, and they're not going to be too happy with them. It's okay. I'll say this: what they do in New York, I don't know if you've noticed, I don't know if they do it on the TV or not, but before they show the person, they'll show them in a movie or they'll show what they do, or before they show Jeter, they'll show him hitting like a Grand Slam home run and then Jeter will pop up.

So, do you show the president at the game as a billionaire and then host of the apprentice and then just pop him in as president and then show him? I think you have to, especially when you listen to.

So, they were baiting the players about this. Like, how do you feel about the president? All of them. We're totally kind about it. They said he's a New Yorker.

This is going to be a great.

So I think. The Knicks ownership is going to be smart and play into it.

Well, you know, Jim Dolan invited us. They're friends. Yes, I think they're going to play into it. I think it's, look, it's all New York. And your fans, I went to a bar on Friday after I hosted Hannity.

Good God. I was the only Spurs fan in this bar, and boy, were they rowdy. Right. But you understand the industry. They need a win.

53. They need a win. It's been a long time. The President will be there, there'll be an announcement, but I also think. That is vital.

The Knicks win, and they have not played that well yet. They've had surges. Jalen Brunson did not look good. And he is the bet, he is like their MVP. And Josh Hart has been there intangible, and he's been fouling out early.

You know what worries me? What? No matter if they're not playing hard or anything like that in the first class, maybe they're a little lackadaisical. They have heart and it shows in big time moments. Yeah.

I mean, the last two games, we've had leads: 13 points, 14 points, and somehow. There's ways to be able to do it. We'll find the wheel. All right, so it's going to be great. Lawrence, we'll talk after game four.

Thanks so much for coming up. Either it could be an obituary or it could be if they win tonight, you're going to feel totally different. Totally different. Right. And by the way, for everyone listening in Texas, I don't hate the Spurs.

I know about New York. I just like the Knicks. Back in a moment. Where big stories meet bigger conversations. Stay informed and energized with the Brian Killmeat Show.

Radio that makes you think. This is the Brian Kill Me Show. Got a couple of minutes. I want to go along with Lawrence, but I always do, and that's my bad. I think it's going to be really exciting here in New York.

You know, I always hesitant to talk too much about New York just because I'm located here, and so many of our affiliates are outside New York. But I do think it's fascinating that the president's going to be. He was the first one to go to a Super Bowl in person. And now the UFC fights is relatively staple. The Atona 500 was fantastic.

And now he was with the he went to the college football final. We know that in Miami. And now he's like, yeah, I'm going to go to the game. And talking to him on Friday, he said, I don't know if I'm going to sit on the court. Or if I'm going to go into the box.

But it's going to be really interesting to see how it goes because I think the whole country is watching. And here's why: you might not be the biggest basketball fan, just like you might not have been the biggest hockey fan. But when big if you're a s a sports fan, you like big moments. And that's why you'll watch figure skating only in the Olympics. You know, that's why you'll watch hockey when it's U.

S. Canada in the final, you know, or in the 1980 team. And I think when you have a team that's won twelve in a row and wasn't supposed to, you know, make it past the conference finals, and instead they have two straight sweeps and then have the number one seed in the West down zero two while they return home. That's kind of like a bigger story. Here's Mitchell Robinson on the fun with game three, Cut39.

I think there's enough at stake that we'll treat it appropriately. I think there'll obviously be a ton of excitement around the game. It'll be you know, this arena is like no other. and the added circumstances will be on top of that and we've um Been fortunate to play some games in this arena recently that have been again not finals but a Christmas game, and again, I think just the added attention around Victor. and being in this arena a few times.

We've experienced that. I would expect tomorrow will be more than that and it'll be a fun environment. Butrew Robinson is a guy that really didn't go to college, went right out of high school, was a bit of a reach for the Knicks, and he ends up being a really good player when he's healthy. And now, as a center, he's been trying to mark this phenomenon, this 7'5 Victor Webb and Yama, and he's been doing a phenomenal job with a broken finger.

So this is one of the stories. Also, he made a statement that he kind of likes Trump. And now people are giving them all this blowback. You're allowed to vote for who you want to vote for. My goodness, give me a break between Jackson Dort and Mitchell Robinson getting blowback for just speaking up because they like a guy's policies.

They're unbelievable. When we come back, we talk about what's happening in the Iran-Israeli clash and how it relates to us. They exchanged at rocket fire last night. Brian killed Michael. Breaking news, unique opinions.

Hear it all on the Brian Kill Me Joe. Iran clearly broke the April 8th truce today by firing missiles at Israel. As you know, there was a truce. Hezbollah is a terrorist organization that has been firing missiles and drones at Israel now for months. They've killed Israelis.

And so, suddenly, for Iran, after all this time, to decide that they were going to attack Israel for Hezbollah's actions makes no sense, especially after all this time. We've worked incredibly hard to preserve the truce. And obviously, the administration has. Iran has obviously come and gone by the day on what they're willing to do and trying to. keep this truce, but tonight they decided to break it.

They did. And they rocked, and thankfully, they didn't hit anything. Knocked him out of the sky. We helped. And then.

Donald Trump was everyone to calm down.

However, he did say go ahead and hit back, and they did. And they blew up a petrochemical plant and two other websites, two other radar sites. I just don't know how we avoid going back to war full bore and just do them for 10, 14 days and let them know and let them know their actions don't stand. Captain Brent Sadler joins us now, Senior Research Fellow, Naval Warfare and Advanced Technology and Alliance Center for National Security. Brent, right now I feel as though Iran couldn't care less about the ceasefire.

Am I wrong, even though the IRG says it will not fire back at Israel after Israel responded to them? Yeah, I think we are coming to a point where Action is going to have to be taken against the IRGC to definitely break them away from the political leadership, which appears to be wanting to make a deal with President Trump, as well as the professional military, which has been kind of sat on the sidelines and suppressed by the IRGC. It's pretty clear the IRGC is the problem, and they're the ones that are pulling the trigger on these missile attacks into Israel. Again, it's the IRGC that runs their proxy, Hezbollah, in Beirut, who's been suffering the defeats.

So when Israel responds to the and wipes out, I guess, if six to eight IRGC members and Brett, where are they located? They're located in Lebanon.

So come on. Why are we pretending that Israel is going against Lebanon? They're not going against Lebanon, they're going against the cancer in Lebanon. that Lebanon wants to be relieved of. By all accounts.

So Why are we pretending and now Iran knows they're in trouble, so they say you have to link Lebanon, you have to link Hezbollah with any type of ceasefire operation.

So if you're Trump, who would you advise him right now? Aaron Powell, President Powell, Powell, Powell, Powell, Powell, Jr.: My advice would be now's the time to press the IRGC and to take military action. Focus at the leadership and at the centers of power of the IRGC, because they're clearly not interested in making a deal. And it's important for the U.S. side, for President Trump, to empower those that want to make a deal with the United States.

So go after the IRGC, take off the gloves. And it's not necessarily a whole-scale attack like we saw the first two weeks, but it's certainly a lot more intensive than what we've seen in the last two months. The way it goes is they try to take a shot at us after we blow out an engine room on a merchant ship, trying to break through the barricade. Through the blockade. And then, since they can't hurt us, they'll go and blow up something in Bahrain or Kuwait.

How Fortified, are they now, being that we have had not had fighting for eight weeks? Have we done anything that you know of to help them up their defenses?

Well, the ones to watch are the Russians and the Chinese in that regard. But of course, when you're not being constantly harangued and attacked, as we were doing to the IRGC and their street muscle, the Basie forces, that does give them a time to reassert their authority and to signal to the people of Iran: no one's coming to their rescue. Um and I think That's, I think, why we have to go after the power base that is the IRGC. And I think that that oil refinery that you mentioned that the Israelis attacked, that's one of the money sources. I guess, tools of control that the IRGC has domestically in Iran, but but it's still too small and it's too sporadic.

It has to be more sustained and it has to be more focused on the IRGC to really have an impact, to get to a deal. I don't know if you've seen it, but I was looking at some footage over the weekend with these students' uprising, at least four separate I saw a few thousand, four separate riots, and who knows what wasn't caught on camera.

Now that the Internet's up, does anything change? Yes, I think there's a potential there for a lot to change. One is we need to get more information out from Iran, even more than the little bit that's coming out now. Educate wider Western populations, not just Americans, what actually is going on inside Iran and that an opportunity, a historic opportunity, is perhaps unfolding for not just a change in Iran, but a change throughout the Middle East for the better. But again, that's the long game.

The short game is defanging the IRGC and taking their muscle off the street. And I think that's where the blockade fits in. That's where these strikes that Israel's now done in retaliation. But I don't think it's enough. What would you do?

One is, I think, go after the RGC's ability to threaten shipping in the Straits of Hormuz.

So you would open the straits. You would open the Straits physically. Do you think we can do it alone? I think we already have. And I think every time we send destroyers through there and ostensibly escort even with helicopters, army helicopters overhead, that the ships have flown and the threat's been relatively modest.

And any attack That the Iranians have tried to make against our forces have never been able to land a hit.

Now, we don't want to. Subject ourselves to luck either.

So that's where we have to go on the offense around the Straits of Hormuz and take out any of the last vestiges of these small boats, the ports, and the shore batteries.

So, Brent, you know what we got to do? I think the President's ultimately, when he makes that decision, he's going to have to put up with the protest of the Gulf states, all except the UAE, don't seem to want him to leave the ceasefire. And he's going to have to just silence the critics in his own administration. There are people on to his left and right that say, We don't need this right now. We're worried about the midterms.

We've got July 4th celebration coming up. We've got the UFC fight on Sunday. We don't need this right now.

So he's going to have to make a decision, but the headwinds are not just going to be in the Middle East. They're going to be in his own cabinet. That would be unfortunately too short-sighted because I think if you just look at the oil prices, seasonally they go up in the summer and seasonally they come down in the fall just as the elections are coming in November. And it's not about the dollar sign. It's not going to be going up much higher, but it's about the trends.

And if the trends are going down, people will tend to think that we're headed in the right direction. That's going to naturally happen.

So I think too much is made of the gas prices. And already the energy market globally is adjusting to this reality. And the prices came down 17 cents just last week. We'll see if that continues into the summer months. And I think we'll be in a good place.

Now, whether or not we need this is not really the argument. It's how do we end this? And I think at this point, it's clear the IRGC is the impediment to sealing a deal.

So you've got to take the gloves off and finish this. More quickly than trying to continue on in a ceasefire that the IRGC is using to increasingly to its advantage. All right, Brett. Brett Sadler, thanks so much. We'll see what happens because the ceasefire, to me, is broken, but so COVID.

It seems both sides have agreed to stop firing at each other, but it doesn't seem to be the strait was supposed to be open in April. It's not. Firing was supposed to stop. It hasn't.

So to me, I don't think there is a ceasefire, but we'll see what happens. Captain Brent Sadler, thanks so much. Thank you. All right. The World Cup, we know, is just now days away.

I'll be out in Los Angeles, so will this radio show for game one with the U.S. against Paraguay over at SoFi Stadium. That's going to be great. You know what's also going to be great? Dylan Nealis, one of the star defenders in the MLS, Major League Soccer, now starring with the Red Bulls, plays inside back and outside back.

Dylan Nealis will be joining me in studio to preview and review what we're going to be looking at with this World Cup in three separate countries, 104 games, 48 teams. Don't move. Diving deep into today's top stories, it's Brian Kilmead. Yeah. The fastest three hours in radio.

You're with Brian Kilmead. Hey, with me right now in studio, if you're smart enough to be watching on the stream or on your app, Dylan Nealis is an outstanding defender with the New York Red Bulls, drafted by David Beckham in Miami. And now we know too that Dylan played for a while with his brother Sean, both from Massapica, where I'm from. Dylan Nealis was kind enough to come in and kind of preview the World Cup and Massapica soccer club players. We're here in studio.

So I convinced Dylan to come join us on radio. Dylan, great to see you. Thanks for having me. First time in your life you've actually been off this time of year, right? Yeah, true.

Yeah, it's been nice, relaxing time.

So they just told the MLS to take a break for how many weeks? Three weeks? Yeah, we had about 18 days, and then we'll start back up with training. And our next games don't kick off till mid-July and July 20th, I believe. Right.

So you guys take a break, and then ultimately, you're going to change seasons. Yeah, can you explain to everyone how that's going to work and why you guys are doing it? Why the MLS is doing it? Right now, our season kind of kicks off late February, and it kind of runs the whole year. We take a few breaks.

Every now and then, with international windows, but our international windows don't really align with the European schedule.

So, with what MLS is doing now, We want to change to a European calendar, so their season starts end of June.

So we'll start in the summer and kind of just have an alignment with the European just for transfer windows and international breaks, like I said, because there's a lot of times where there's MOS games going on, but no one else in the world is playing soccer besides the international games.

So there's just a lot of mixes and matching.

So I think it'll be nice to finally be aligned.

So will you have a mini-season or will you just take off?

So 2027 will have a 15-game season they decided on.

So from February to about June, we'll have a 15-game season with playoffs and a championship. And then June of 2027 is when we'll switch that calendar year. Oh, wow. That's a quick turnaround. Yeah, yeah.

It'll be an interesting year, I think, with players and contracts. But I think it'll be better for the league and just to get eyes on the league as a whole.

So, yes, we watched the U.S. play Germany, lose 2-1. But, you know, you're playing your whole roster. You want to have a good showing, but you definitely don't want to get hurt before the game. What did you think of the quality that you saw?

They did well. I mean, they ended up conceding a goal early on, but they were responded well. And I think towards the end of the game, you saw some fight, which probably wasn't for the better because it got a little chippy towards the end there. But nobody got hurt. But I think you kind of see that tenacity in the group.

They're being underdogs this year.

So I think they're going to go into the tournament flying. Mauricio Pochuccino from Argentina, but he seems to really understand America. From what I've watched his press conferences, I'm watching that HBO Max series. They chronicled four years of the team coming aboard. What are they?

What do the guys tell you? What do you hear about them? Yeah, you know, it's always different when a European or South American coach takes over, or even in general, when an outsider coach takes over a different country. You know, they have the different beliefs. And, you know, the just the way he grew up playing soccer is diff definitely very different than the way the American kid grew up.

But yeah, it seems like he he knows understands the boys well and he knows what how to get them motivated.

So I've I've heard nothing but great things about him. I heard the training sessions are amazing, super intense, super long, and it seems like he'll he'll get the boys going in the right way. Dude, what about the 26-man roster? Any surprises for you? Maybe a few, but listen, I'll take leave those decisions to the coaching staff.

I think they. Who's the forward? The Mexican forward, Mexican heritage, but obviously American. Blonde hair, short guy, 5'5. I was watching he scored a ton.

On the team as Zendejas? No, he didn't make it. He was the one guy. Oh, what's his name? Diego Luna?

Yeah, Diego Luna. I'm watching this guy score, and I can't believe and I didn't really know much about I've been following that closely and I'm watching him. He was scoring in bunches, but he did not make the cut. Yeah, I mean, there's always, I mean, given the fact there's always going to be those guys that are borderline guys that either make it or miss it. You know, it's you kind of feel for them.

But I think the coaches had their players, they had their players picked out. And, you know, I think as long as he trusts that roster, I think it'll go far.

So people are going to want to know these names, and they will. But one people, one person to keep in mind is Chris Richards, right? Yeah. So he's an outside back on the team. Center back.

Center back. Yeah. And he's not quite healthy yet, did not play again. What does he bring to the table, and what would it be like if he's not available? Yeah, I mean, he plays over in the Premier League, which is one of the best leagues in the world.

So I think he's a younger kid, but I mean, he has that experience. He plays at the highest level.

So just that presence back there, I think he'll bring a lot of stability and confidence to the group. But yeah, he rolled his ankle, I think, or did something to his ankle.

So his availability is in question. But I think it sounds like he'll be good to go.

So do you think in goal for the U.S. team? With against Paraguay. Is there any reason not to think it's Matt Frees? I think it'll be Matt Fries.

I think he he did enough to earn that earn that role. I think it's his job to lose. What do you do you think he's the best goalie? I think so, yeah. I mean, I'm obviously familiar with him.

He's across the Hudson River playing for New York City, so familiar face. He's very good. He's a very good goalkeeper, shot stopper, go with his feet, I think, just what the U.S. needs.

Well, yeah, I guess we're going to see.

So looking at the lineup, I know you don't want to necessarily Um, you can't go into detail about what's you know, who's the 25th man on Paraguay, but you have Paraguay, you got Australia, and then you have Turkey. First off, on Paraguay, the last time they played was 2025. I believe in November, 2-1 win for the U.S. Does that mean anything? I don't think so.

It's a whole new tournament, a whole lot of new faces. Obviously, there's some history there, but. I don't think you can go into that game thinking of history. You know, this tournament's every four years.

So there's going to have those old games, but I think it's a new start. Look at Australia the last time they played again, 2-1 for the U.S. This is what I read: physical team. Yeah. Yeah, I mean the U.S.

is going to have its challenges, but I think they're favored. And they should be able to take care of business. I think it's just that starting these games off on the front foot is important. And not doing what happened on Saturday. Yeah, correct.

The last game is against Turkey. They say that Turkey is the best of the three. Do you sense that? I'm not sure. You know, these games, they're going to present their different challenges, whether teams sit back in a low block or actually want to come out and attack the U.S.

So I. You never know how these teams are going to play. Obviously, the U.S. is going to be on home soil, too, so you'd hope that there'd be a little home crowd advantage, but you never know with the traveling countries. But I'm just hoping they get off to a strong start.

And maybe that last game isn't too important at that time. Talking to Dylan Nealis, one of the outstanding backs with the New Jersey Red Bull, plays at Red Bull Arena. Great venue. Tough area, but it's hard to get to. And mass transportation is probably the best way.

But with these games in particular, do you feel you've watched European games? Could you describe for us, and I asked you this on TV, the difference between going to a European game and watching soccer and going to an American NMLS game? And not to put down the leagues. Yeah, no, but it's hugely different. I think I don't even know what could compare to something here.

But yeah, just the European fans are not crazy, but just so energetic and enthusiastic about their teams. They travel early before the game. They stick around the whole game, and they're always just chanting and rude the whole game. Here's what it sounded like. On Saturday, Germany against the U.S.

is at Soldier Field in Cut 42. The World Cup send-off game gets underway. here against a European power. Powerhouse in Germany blocked it in towards the section. And Kai Habox meets it.

Germany in front, inside, two minutes left. That's it away. Oh my Lord, what a strike from Anthony Robertson! The game tied up! Along the edge of the box from Masiala.

And they'll drive by Savoy. Germany back in front. The next time we see this U.S. men's national team will be in the opening game of the homeworld.

So that was a volley from 22 yards out, one time by Robinson. I want people to hear what Dylan sounds like on the field. Cut 43. Detachon, the South African. Look at this move!

Oh my goodness, what a clearance! Neilis again coming to a social media screen near you.

So, Red Bulls against the fire, what happened? That was in the same stadium as the first clip, too. No, just a goal line clearance. It was right time, right place. Right.

So, you went behind the goalie? Yeah. Yeah, I just saw our defender got beat, and I was like, eh, might as well. Make an effort at this and get it. Couple of my money, Dylan should be on that national team, too.

Dylan, thanks so much for coming in. You're telling your story along with your brother. It's been a fantastic story from Aspico to be proud of, and your whole family, Connor as well as Jimmy. Thanks so much for listening, everyone. Keep it here, Brian Kill Me Joe.

See you later, Dylan. Thanks, Brian. This is awesome. From the Fox News Radio Studios in Midtown Manhattan, it's the fastest growing radio talk show. Brian Killmead.

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So glad you're there. It's Brian Kilmey from 4826 in Midtown Manhattan, heard around the country and around the world.

So glad you're there. This hour, I'm going to be joined by Andrew Giuliani, White House World Cup Task Force Executive Director. Man, is he busy? Bruce Schneier will be with us too. He's a security technologist who teaches at the Harvard Business School, at Harvard University, and author of Rewiring Democracy, How AI Will Transform Our Politics, Government, and Citizenship.

That is a big commitment. And also standing by is Andrew McCarthy, Fox News contributor. And keep in mind, you can always go to our YouTube channel, youtube.com slash at the Brian Kilmey Show, and get this on your time. But now let's get to the big three. Number three.

If we can show that a regular person from the regular world, who simply comes out with a message saying that we all have to work together to push back against all of the structures of power that have been exploiting and oppressing us for generations, we get to show this country the way forward. Really?

Thanks, regular person Graham Plattner, who's anything but. What a joke. The fact that Graham Plattner is still in the race is an embarrassment to Democrats in Maine, but a gift to Susan Collins. What's the most amusing to watch? Are the Dems avoiding or rationalizing him?

Number two. That's why it brings doubt to people. Look, Florida and Texas, nobody questions their election integrity, and they can tell you within hours, California could do better. Yeah, you think so? It's still been two weeks since they're primary, and they're not done counting the votes.

Speaking of jokes, California is still counting their votes for all primary offices, and guess who has dropped a third? The third in the mayoral race, Spencer Pratt. The whole process is an embarrassment to California and the country. We review and preview tomorrow's next wave of primaries. Number one.

Iran clearly broke the April 8th truce today by firing missiles at Israel. Iran has obviously come and gone by the day on what they're willing to do and trying to keep this truce, but tonight they decided to break it. Back to the attack. Israel responds to Iran's rocketing with its hits on their own as President Trump wants to de-escalate the situation as oil prices go up slightly, but the market's still resilient. It's up 180 points.

We're over 51,000. Crude oil is at $91. I just don't know how long we can avoid going back to war. Nobody wants war, but sometimes not having it is worse than having it. I think that's the case we're at right now.

In the primary season, a lot of things stand out. It kind of stands out to me that Hassan Piker is the Democratic voice and the podcaster, the Rush Limbaugh of the left, right? Hassan Piker hates America, loves Hamas, Cole for the death of Rick Scott. Praises Cuba, visited Cuba by the way. And now has El Saeed, as his, he is mentoring El Said, who is one of the frontrunners to be the next senator from Michigan.

The other story You have is a certain congressman, a wood aspiring congressman in the Twelfth District of New Jersey, who happens to be mentored by the blind shake. Uh picture Bin Laden without the gift of sight. That's how bad this guy is. He's going to help engineer the attack on the World Trade Center. And if he had his way, he would have blown up all the arteries leading in and out of New York.

Guy that prosecuted him joined us now, Andrew McCarthy Fox, who's contributed to former assistant U.S. Attorney for the Southern District of New York. Andrew, welcome back. Hey, Brian, how are you? First off, are you astounded that this guy Sally is this guy is one of the is looks like he's going to be the next congressman?

I wish I could say I was astounded. I wrote a book, Brian, about 16 years ago about the Muslim Brotherhood's infiltration of the West. And what I pointed out at the time was that there were already very strong alliances between Uh Islamists And left-wing movements in the West, including the Democratic Party. in the United States. This is a trend that was evident.

Almost two decades ago, probably more. And I think it goes back to. the Muslim Students' Associations, which I think or it's probably the most uh successful Movement of the Muslim Brotherhood, which is the most important. Islamist movement in modern history. They started out with about a handful Of chapters in the mid-nineteen sixties by today.

They have about 600 or more chapters across campuses across North America, particularly in the United States.

So I think that's why. You know, people woke up and were surprised by the activism, pro-Hamas activism that we saw following the October 7th attacks. But it's really not that surprising if you watch what's been going on for the last four decades. Yeah, his name is Adam Hamoui, and he says, Well, I served for 20 years in the military, and you had Senator Duckworth come out and say, He's helped save my life when she was injured.

So, but he also volunteered in Gaza at a hospital that had underneath it some of the tunnels. that Hamas use to attack Israel. Yeah, and in Bosnia. You know, w we've had a number Of people who were not just Islamist, and when I say Islamists, what I talk about is Sharia supremacist ideology. I'm not talking about violent jihadists now.

I'm talking about people who are adherent to The ideology which causes terrorism because terrorism, Islamic, when it's in the realm of Islamic terrorism, it's always about Sharia, which is Islamic law. It's always about implementing Sharia and spreading Sharia. And that's what the ideology is. We've had plenty of people who were associated with the American armed forces who were actually important people in jihadist. circles but in their ideology Your duty is to contribute to the jihad, and it's not necessarily you contribute whatever you can contribute to jihad.

It's not necessarily just violent force. It's humanitarian assistance, medical assistance, financial assistance, arms assistance. And a number of the defendants in my case back in 1995, our trial, when we convicted the blind sheikh, they tried a defense that told the jury, yes, we were training to do violent activity. We were training to surveil targets. We were training to mix explosives and blow stuff up.

But we were doing that for Bosnia, not for New York. I mean, that was their defense that they were headed to Bosnia, where there was a jihad on from 1992 through 1995. And we were defending the Muslims. Yeah, well, it's a complicated story because it's a couple of wars mixed into. Uh One long trajectory that went on from nineteen ninety two to nineteen ninety five, and it had Bosnian Muslims against the Serbs and ultimately Bosnian Muslims against the Croats.

Who were allied at the beginning of the conflict and then were at war at the end.

So it's a little bit complicated. But yeah, these were the Muslim. forces and you mentioned the blind sheikh and bin laden They actually work pretty closely together, and it's important in understanding who Hamawi was to realize that this all happened before. Hamawi testified On the blind shake's behalf in my trial in 1995. When the blind shake came here, In 1990, it was astonishing that the American authorities allowed him to relocate here.

But his two claims to fame were he had issued the fatwa, which is the Sharia law edict. permitting the murder of Uh Anwar Sadat who The Egyptian president who had made peace with Israel. And the second thing he did was he was an important participant in terms of recruiting people to go fight. to the mujahideen Jihad in Afghanistan against the Russians, where he worked with Bin Laden, who he had known for a very long time. And the important thing about that is.

After that was over, when the Soviets went back to Moscow after they basically withdrew in 1989. The jihadists were certain that they had beaten the more challenging superpower from their perspective, and Bin Laden decided to take the jihad global against the United States.

So by the time when Abdulrahman, the blind sheikh, When he came here in 1990, Two things happened. Number one, he called for violent jihad against America. And secondly, there was a stepping up of jihadist attacks against the United States, culminating in the 93 World Trade Center bombing. And the second plot in my case, which we happily were able to thwart, which was. they wanted to do simultaneous attacks on New York City landmarks like the Lincoln and Holland Tunnel and the FBI's Lower Manhattan headquarters.

So he was the Blind Shake was a pretty notorious person already when he came here, which is when he had his relationship with Hamaui. Which astounds me because Hamawi is trying to minimize their interaction. I didn't know many Muslims at the time. I was kind of hanging out with them, but I didn't really know what he was up to. Here he is talking about the attacks that are against him and how unjustified they are.

First off, I'm going to go to about his testimony. Here's him explaining himself, cut 32. 30 years ago, there was very few religious figures in New Jersey at that time. I, like many other people, met him and I was in a last-minute carpool. And because I had nothing to do with anything, I was called as a witness on events that happened.

It wasn't a character witness. It was just what happened during that trip. And I've condemned multiple times the violent rhetoric and actions. And my patriotism and service to this country is clear. I have sworn an oath to defend the Constitution of the United States.

And when I'm asked to testify under oath, I believe in our system of justice and laws. And I did that. And I did so truthfully. How do you feel about his explanation, counselor?

Well, I think it's an incomplete explanation. I take him at his word that he complied with the. you know, the rules of court. But I would just point out that I was the prosecutor in the case. It's not like I subpoenaed him and made him come to court as a hostile witness.

He was a voluntary witness. for the blind sheikh's defense. To testify about a trip that he voluntarily went on with the blind shake. To Detroit, Michigan. I think they left from Jersey and went, it was about a 13-hour trip to Detroit.

Uh to attend Basically, an Islamic conference on the economy, but I do, I would say. that while he said that he couldn't recall A conversation in which the blind sheik asked our informant why he hadn't turned his guns on Mubarak, who was Sadat's successor as president of Egypt, which was the main reason he was brought in to testify. He did truthfully testify that his recollection was that the blind sheikh spent his time talking about jihad, that he said that we needed to have war against America, that we needed to have war against Israel, and that at the conference, which was supposed to be at economics conference, he talked about jihad. And Hamali said he talked about jihad all the time. But Andy, can you help me with this?

I've heard you say this before. Why would the defense witness want him? If his honest answers are kill are killing the blind chase case. Yeah, I don't think they prepared him well, Brian. And I think it was stupid to call him because his main reason for being called was.

To say that he went on this trip that our informant testified about, and he didn't remember any. Conversation about killing Mubarak. And the reason I think it was dumb to call him on that was we had so much evidence by the end of the case that the Sheikh wanted. been uh Mubarak killed. Uh that Lynn Stewart, his attorney, when she summed up to the jury, her basic argument on that count was that Mubarak had it coming.

We had so much evidence that he had. You mean Sadat? No, no, Mubarak, what happened? He did greenlight the murder of Sadat. And then he was acquitted in Egypt, not because he didn't do it, but because he did this Islamic law defense that says that if the ruler doesn't comply with Sharia, we have a duty to eliminate the ruler.

And he actually turned that into a book that he called A Word of Truth. And then after Sadat was killed, he spent most of his time calling for jihad against America and Jihad against Mubarak. Andy, thanks so much. Fascinating stuff. I've just got more from this guy because he's not going anywhere.

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The talk show that's getting you talking. You're with Brian Kilmead. Hey, with me right now is Andrew Giuliani. I almost said Rudin Giuliani. Andrew Giuliani, who's a simple.

Whose simple job from the White House was make the World Cup work.

So you're in charge. What is the title that drives you this?

So I am the executive director of the White House Task Force for the World Cup, and it's amazing. We end up having eight different agencies that we work with on a daily basis. Since even it started, we've added health and human services, the FCC, EPA. I mean, it's really cut across almost every part of the federal government, including state and local government as well. It's a massive undertaking.

How many venues do we have here? In the United States, we have 11 venues: Boston, New York, Philadelphia, Atlanta, Miami, Houston, Dallas, Kansas City, LA, San Francisco, and Seattle, and then five venues between Canada and Mexico. Right, so you have 104 games. How many do we host? 78 of the 104 games, including the final, the semifinals, all the quarterfinals.

So the tournament, once we get to July, will all come to America and then start kind of moving more toward the east coast of America. What's yet to be done as we Except for game one on Thursday, right? Yeah, well, look, I think more than anything else, we're looking at kind of the Iranian team, their arrival into Los Angeles, what that looks like. They'll come in a day before their first game. Their game will be on June 15th.

They'll come in June 14th. One of the real amazing things that the administration has done, and really CDC has leaned in so much on this, is there's an Ebola outbreak going on in the Democratic Republic of the Congo. They're one of the teams that qualified. We gave very clear guidance to the team who's playing a European schedule to not go back to the Democratic Republic of the Congo before they actually come to the United States. Otherwise, they would not be let in.

We've worked with them to make sure that their players are contact traced. They've not been back in the Congo for over a month. They'll be able to come in.

Some of their fans, unfortunately, all their fans, will not be able to. Andrew, where are you going to spend most of your time? I'll be at in D.C. at FEMA headquarters. That's where we have our command post.

But I'll also be traveling around to these cities, going to the emergency operations centers there, just making sure. This runs smoothly. I mean, this is the largest sporting event, Brian, as we've talked about in American history. When you think about this, this is like 78 Super Bowls over 39 days. And the thing, and this is amazing working with law enforcement, this is not just the World Cup that's happening.

We have Freedom 250, we have America 250 events, you have the incredible Sail Forth 250 that's going to be coming with the tall ships in New York Harbor and across other harbors here in the United States. It's an amazing summer, not just to be a soccer fan, but to be in America. Absolutely.

So we don't get the U.S. team to do well. Everybody does. Friday night will be game one. Is it sold out?

I think it's 90% sold out now.

So, from what I've heard, there are some more tickets that are available. But I think for the most part, it's almost fully sold out. Here, as you, the big attraction here at MetLife is Brazil. Yeah. What kind of the fanship, you said, just showing up just to hear the practice?

They can't even get into the practice. They're just hovering around. Yeah, amazing. You know, probably 30 miles west of where we're. Sitting right now in Morristown, New Jersey.

They've got the, that's where Brazil is actually based. There are thousands of Brazilians, maybe tens of thousands now, just going out there to be around the team. The team is having closed practices, but they want to be in the area to cheer on their team. We're seeing it with Argentina, who a lot of people are following, that actually they released Messi's room number.

Somehow, they got Messi's room number in Kansas City. But we see this among soccer fans. There's such an enthusiastic bunch. It's our job to make sure that we can harness that enthusiasm, that people have a fantastic time without going over the line. We want to make sure that people have a safe and secure experience.

Are you going to meet with the president now? I'm going out to Pedminster. I'm going to see the president. He's excited about our Knicks, as I know you're excited about our Knicks. It's actually one of the things for me as a lifelong New Yorker, I've got to get back down to D.C., but it's killing me.

I can't get to the Knicks game tonight, but I'll be watching. I know you've seen all the frustration during the Ewing years, and now they're on the cusp of doing something special. I actually remember I was in Madison Square Gardens game five. He's so busy, he'll make your head spin. It's Brian Kilmead.

The rise of artificial intelligence is. The next industrial revolution. Oh no. What happened?

Okay, I struck a chord. Did, and you weren't the only one. That commencement speaker spoke up, referenced AI, and the people started booing, much like they did in various other commencement addresses. And these are the 22-year-olds, ideally, who would be embracing technology. I always thought it would be the older guys and women who say, Oh, I don't understand this.

Leave me alone. Don't, you know, don't tell me this. Instead, it seems like older people are more open to what AI brings to the table, even though we're not quite sure. Bruce Snyder joins us now. He's a security technologist who teaches at the Harvard Kennedy School at Harvard University and author of Rewiring Democracy: How AI Will Transform Our Politics, Government, and Citizenship.

Bruce, why do you think? that the kids are bowing. I mean, these are college graduates. These are people who are seeing job prospects disappear by the month, by the week. The future is very uncertain.

This technology probably is as impactful as Industrial Revolution, and that will harm a lot of people in the interim until we figure out whatever the new normal is. I mean, I'm teaching here, and my students are scared. What major should they do? What classes should they take? How should they look at their future?

I mean, it's pretty clear this is going to disrupt so many things. Yeah. You know, I tell them that we have to be flexible. that in fact we don't know. I mean, think about programming.

Last year, AI was not good at programming. Then it was good at it, but you had to check its work. Then it became so good nobody checks it. And now just last month, it's too expensive to do with AI, and we need programmers. That's basically 12 months of whiplash for anybody with a computer science degree.

And in this world, the only solution. is to be flexible. It's a terrible answer, but it's the best we have. Right, and we're not quite sure where we're heading or what everything that it can do. And when did it become officially smarter than us?

I heard this in the last few months: smarter than what we are, who we are. You know, I mean, I've heard this called the jagged edge. There's a great video of someone talking to, I think, the open AI model and its voice. And it's showing him an upside-down cup and asking, how could you drink from it? And the AI can't figure out that the cup is upside down.

I mean, it's smarter than us that it can beat us at chess and go and win a Nobel Prize in protein folding. But it's also incredibly stupid. And that edge, where it's better or worse, is not normal. It's hard to make sense of.

So just know this is changing really fast. But I would not say it's smarter than us in general.

So here's Josh Krauschauer, weighed in. He's a political analyst, and talk about what role that's going to play in the political landscape, whether it's data centers in your backyard, upping of utility costs, or making jobs not available or changing. They cut $45. They have a reason to be upset and anxious because AI is taking away jobs from, especially these entry-level jobs that they would normally expect to kind of move into after graduating.

So there's a lot of uncertainty. There's a lot of anxiety with the graduating class. I also think you're seeing a turn to extremisms on the left and on the right among Gen Z. And I don't think it's detached from the fact that AI is very disruptive. It's creating a sense of fear and anxiety.

And there's a level of uncertainty on what the future holds. The jobs, you know, everyone said, go into coding. That's like being an engineer. That was a guaranteed way to make a good living.

Well, AI is taking away many of those jobs.

So it's a lot of volatility for the graduating class. Are they taking it away, Bruce, or do they're changing the relationship? For example, I was just into Um Mark Andreessen, I think it was, and he was coming out and saying that the programmers are now working with AI, being more productive than ever before. And they've been coding with AI and then being able to interact with, it's almost addicting how much more they can do, that it's opening up a new world to them, not eliminating from that world. Have you seen that?

You know, this really is the difference between the technology and the for-profit companies controlled like that.

So imagine a programmer with an AI, or let's say a doctor with an AI. Doctor in the eye is a better doctor. Does that mean they can spend more time with patients? and have more rapport and become better doctors? Or is their employer gonna give them five times the patients?

And then fire four out of five doctors.

So it really depends on the environment. Do we do a job better? Or are some of us fired or all rest of us are working harder? And that is very much the economic system, not the tech. The tech can do either.

The humans decide which one. Bruce, do you worry about us just depending on it too much and not thinking and figuring it out for ourselves? I mean, I worry about that a lot, especially my students. I mean, they are using AI to complete their homework. And right, and I tell them the reason I give you essays to write, it's not because the world needs more essays, because the act of writing the essays makes you smarter.

And having an AI do your homework is having a robot lift weights for you at the gym. It's kind of dumb. But it's hard for a student to internalize that. They take the shortcut. I do worry about that.

Awesome. I tend to think in general, us old people complain about kids too much. And the kids are generally all right, whether it's rock and roll or the internet or Wikipedia or whatever it is. They figure it out.

So maybe we are just too worried, but I'm old right now, I worry. But Bruce, we also saw grades go down since 2014, 2013, across the board, across the country. You can blame cities, suburbs. It doesn't matter. It's pretty consistent.

And many people turn it back to Chromebooks. Even before AI. And they said when people are typing or they're not reading the way they used to, it's not sticking to the brain like it used to, to use a non-scientific term. Yeah, and I've read that. People also blame it on social media.

That is incredibly distracting. Uh COVID? Certainly didn't help. We have data on that.

So I think it's tech in general. and everything around tech. It's really hard to isolate. But yes, I do worry about this. I think we have to pay attention.

And other countries are. I mean, China is like banning social media. For kids. I mean, countries that take this seriously are doing things that, of course, corporations don't like.

So we don't do them here.

So, how you said it's rewiring democracy. How is it rewiring democracy? How is it going to affect politics? I know actually people are now pushing back on data centers being built, even though it's going to bring a ton of jobs. They're worried about the water and worried about utilities.

President signed an executive order saying you're going to have to build a power plant with every data center, but it's still not pleasing the people of Arizona. It's getting people in Maine said, we're going to just ban it. Is is that that's one tangible thing people are going to be running on? And this is super interesting, because this isn't an issue that is not yet Democrat or Republican. The most Republican right and the most lefty left are together protesting data centers in their community.

This is a local issue, not a political issue. And it's unclear. If any party Will champion what the people want here. Everybody's in the pockets. of big tech.

So I think it's worth watching this issue. I think it's really interesting that it's apolitical. When I think of AI and politics, I don't think about deep fakes or any of the fake stuff. I think about candidates using it. There's AICA.

Look at Spencer's run for office. Bruce, look at Spencer Pratt. Has anyone used it better than him? Management, it's a good example. But think, don't think national, think local elections, city council, school board, where there's no money, no time, no expertise.

There are a lot of AI systems to help regular people run for office. To me, that's going to be the biggest change to allow people who didn't have the time or money. To enter politics to do so at the local level. I'm super excited about that.

Well, that's interesting.

So I want you to hear Bernie Sanders' idea. He sees the stock market and he sees it being driven by these AI companies or the chips that drive the AI companies. Here's what he said: CUP 47. What was his reaction to this idea of giving the public some of the stock?

Well, I think he's, again, I don't want to speak for him. He was opposed to the idea of. uh of uh the public having uh half the representation on the boards he opposed that. He wanted the public to own part of these AI companies because they're using our knowledge to fuel the AI genius.

So I don't know how that would work business wise, but do you understand the sentiment? I do. I think it's a bad idea. I think it's a huge conflict of interest, right, for the government to own stock in the companies they regulate. This has gone bad a whole bunch of times that we can point to.

So I don't think that'll work. I mean, I like Elizabeth Warren's idea better, an excise tax on energy or a tax on tokens. I mean, I agree we need to somehow share in. the wealth of the data we generated, including this show, which is going to be used to train AI. But the way to do that, I think, is going to be an excise tax on the companies and not.

This conflict of interest to now own some of those companies. That's not what government does. Bruce, I know we're all projecting. Because we don't know exactly. But if you look at AI, you know, we have all these healthcare problems.

We debate healthcare forever. Medicare for all, make it free, pay doctors more, we don't have enough doctors, whatever it is. If I'm looking at AI, it's hard to find people who don't think. That the medical profession will not benefit from this. You touched on this a little bit earlier.

Could this be one thing to? balance the costs and access? Could AI give those people in working class communities the same medical care of the so called rich and famous? You know, it's not the AI, it's the medical system, right? The U.S.

has this horrible, expensive. Ponderous medical system where people are making all sorts of money on the backs of us.

So, yes, you can imagine a world or a country. where that happens, where AI gives benefits to the people? You can imagine a country where all events of AI are captured by whatever private equity firm owns the hospital down the street. It's not the tech. It's the economic system that tech is in.

I think a lot about AI being used to augment doctors or in places in the planet where there are no doctors, where the choice isn't AI or doctor, but it's AI or somebody who got a week's of training in health somewhere. But really, this depends on the the economic system. It's not going to cure the US system. The US system isn't a problem of tech. It's a problem of incentives.

So we keep hearing this from the tech companies and from the president. And presidents. We got to beat China. We got to beat China. So do you believe, Bruce Schneier, that we have to beat China?

I don't. I don't think this is this is not the nineteen sixties. Tech doesn't work that way. Everything's international. There isn't an arms race.

This is something that I think the US tech companies like to talk about because it gives them an edge in policy. I see this as very international. When there are advances in China, we learn about them and we copy them. When their advances here, everyone else learns about them and copies them. This is all happening in the open in public.

And it's continued to do so. Right now, China is investing in smaller. Better models because they don't have these massive piles of money to set fire to that the US companies do.

So there's a difference in philosophy. I actually think the Chinese philosophy makes more sense, but we can all benefit from it. It's those AI companies that'll hurt, but we will all benefit because it's all done in public. And Bruce, what you're saying is, I think, and you tell me if I'm wrong, that China's philosophy is we make an advancement, give it to the people, and try it out. Whether it's the mechanic down the block or the shopkeeper, we made this advancement, throw it out there, let people use it and tell me how it's working, as opposed to keep the model, work the model, get the model better, and then put it out.

You know, I don't know if that happens in general, but in AI, that does seem to be the case, right? The deep seek model, the big Chinese model. That is a public model, is open model. The research they did because they were denied access to the good chips from the US, they had to engineer smarter. We know the results of that research.

The smaller models are often public models. We're seeing those.

So, I mean, I think there is some competition, but largely this is not an arms race. Understood. Um Lastly, when you talk about the security of the situation. People talk about mythos. Tell me about Mythos and why it freaked out this administration.

I mean, that was a massive PR move in Ananthropic. It is not Mythos. It is all the models. I know Mythos got the press. We're all talking about it.

But GPT public models are all just as good or almost as good. What they're very good at is finding vulnerabilities in source code.

Now, that has benefits to the attacker and defender.

So the browser Firefox uh fixed I think 147 vulnerabilities last month. There was a cryptocurrency that fixed a vulnerability that the AI found.

So things get better. as they get more vulnerable.

So the worry really is that it is more volatile. Things are happening faster. Long run, I think the defense benefits, but in the short run, there are a lot of vulnerabilities. All right, Bruce. You're a very valuable guest because everything's changing so rapidly.

You have a book out now called Rewiring Democracy: How AI Will Transform Our Politics, Government, and Citizenship. Bruce Schneier, thanks so much. Thank you. You got it. Back in a moment.

Keeping you informed, engaged, and always a step ahead. It's the Brian Kill Me Show. Information you want, truth you demand. This is the Brian Kill Me Show. The environment, the atmosphere is going to be electric, obviously, and we're happy that we're at home and we have them at our back.

I kind of wish the ticket prices weren't as crazy as they are. I feel like a lot of people who have been waiting for this moment for a very long time, you know, unfortunately aren't able to get into the building with the cheapest ticket, $7,000, $8,000.

So that's ridiculous. I'll be going to the game. That is Josh Hoard of the Knicks. And this is why I think the Knicks are going to be successful tonight. And I know people in Texas getting upset, but I do, listen, I grew up watching the Knicks.

I mean, I remember them in the 70s. I actually watched the ABA too when the Nets were one of the best teams in that league, and the Spurs were in that league, by the way.

So. Josh Hart hasn't played well. He's been almost non-existent. He's not that intangible player that's Mr. Everything.

And the other person who hasn't played well, didn't play well down the stretch is Jalen Brunson.

Now, I know he's been double and triple teams, and they have all these offenses designed against him. It hasn't really affected his play. But can you imagine this guy is effective? And Josh Hart goes back to being Josh Hart, and they still won the first two games on the road? I know it's not over, but I think it's definitely significant what's going on.

And now they're being asked about the president of the United States. Why is the president coming? What do you think? They're not ripping the president. Here's Mike Brown, the coach who's done a stellar job after the win, cut 38.

What a ball game. This is a fantastic ball game. They made a run, we made a run, they made a run, we made a run.

So there was a lot of back and forth throughout the course of the game. Obviously, they made their run towards the end. We could have folded a few times, but our guys just kept fighting. And the one thing I told them that you work on connectivity throughout the course of the year for moments like these, no matter what run they went on, our guys just kept uplifting one another. Not just the guys on the floor, but the guys on the bench throughout the course of San Antonio's runs.

So that connectivity that we started with, had during the season, and continue to have now paid huge dividends for our group.

So that is Mike Brown. He's personable. He learned under the best coaches. He's been fired multiple times. Lately, he's just fired from Sacramento.

LeBron James society was sick of them, just fire as him. got him fired a couple of times at least once. And then he was an assistant in Golden State. He was an assistant in S with San Antonio with Popovich. This guy's been around.

And when he comes onto this team, he's not looking to establish authority. I'm in charge. He said, I want to make this a collaborative effort. It just worked. A veteran team that wants to win, they got to the championship game.

And now down 2-1 to Atlanta when people are saying, oh my God, is he going to get his team eliminated in the first round? They've won 12 in a row. Including two sweeps and take two games on the road.

So it's pretty incredible what's going on. We'll stay on top of it and also see how the president arrives and all the celebrations that are likely to happen if the New York wins or San Antonio wins. Keep it here, Brian. Kilmicho. From High Atop Fox News Headquarters.

In New York City, always seeking solutions, never sowing division. It's Brian Killmead. Hi, one.

So glad you're there. It's Brian Killmead Show coming to you from Midtown Manhattan, which, well, now, the president's going to be going to the game tonight in Penn Station, where there was a shooting on Sunday. Shooting, can you believe this?

Some crazy guy, as usual, mentally ill, decides to start, excuse me, I shouldn't say shooting, stabbing. Stab six people. One really serious. The rest are okay. And then again, the Amtrak police, of all people, end up.

corralling this guy, strapping him to a chair and bringing him to uh And bring him to uh I hope prison.

So we'll see where this guy goes because they tend to, in New York City, like most cities, let everybody back on the street. Also, the President of the United States is going to be there tonight. What's going to be different, they're going to break up the whole viewing party that takes place outside Madison Square Garden. They pushed it to Bryant Park about ten blocks away and went to Central Park, but they won't be able to be outside the stadium.

Some people are upset by that, but security matters. This hour, I'm going to be talking about Steve Ashburner. He's a senior writer at NBA.com. We'll talk about that. And Ben Dominic is standing by.

So let's get to the big three. Number three. If we can show that a regular person from the regular world who simply comes out with a message saying that we all have to work together to push back against all of the structures of power that have been exploiting and oppressing us for generations, we get to show this country the way forward. Really?

Thanks, Graham Plattner. Anything but regular? What a joke. The fact that Graham Plattner is still in the race is an embarrassment to Democrats in Maine, but a gift to Susan Collins. I'll explain.

Number 10, that's why it brings doubt to people. Look, Florida and Texas, nobody questions their election integrity, and they can tell you within hours, California could do better. Yeah, I think so. Speaker McCarthy weighing in. Speaking of jokes, California will be counting their votes for all primary offices.

And guess who now dropped to third in the mayoral race as they continue to count balance? Spencer Pratt. This whole process is an embarrassment to California and the country. We review and preview tomorrow's next wave. Number one.

Iran clearly broke the April 8th truce today by firing missiles at Israel. Iran has obviously come and gone by the day on what they're willing to do and trying to keep this truce. But tonight they decided to break it.

Well, we'll see. Back to the attack. Israel responds to Iran's rocketing with hits on their own. President Trump wants to de-escalate, but I don't think it's possible. Oil prices are holding steady and the market's up 222 points.

We're at over 51,000. I think we're getting used to this, but I want the president to just take two weeks. And just end this thing once and for all. There'll be some damage to us. I understand that.

But this is why we're they're our one our number one enemy in the region. And they are an ally to our other two enemies, Russia and China. Why would we let the end and North Korea, I should say three. Why we let this exist? Ben Dominich joins us now, Fox News contributor, host of the Big Ben Show with Ben Dominich.

Ben, welcome back. Your thoughts about what we should do next. When it comes to Iran, you know, Brian, I think that you are correct. The simple fact is that we can't have some kind of meandering path toward wrapping up this conflict. I think the president has been trying to find his way to a deal because he thought that that was something that was worth doing.

He wanted to, you know, have this be something that was confined and compressed. He didn't want to have a lengthy conflict. He understands the American aversion to that, but he's also understood the Iranian nuclear threat for so long. It's been one of the most consistent aspects of his political beliefs that this was something that needed to be dealt with. He's dealing with it, but I think that you are correct in the sense that we need to go after them hard for the next two weeks.

We can't trust them. We can't trust any of these deals. These ceasefires are not real ceasefires. You know, his comment that it's just shooting moderately in that region is correct. And I think that we just have to understand the only way this is going to end.

Is by actually ramping things up, forcing the Iranians to accept a deal that they're not going to like. And I think that that's something that can be achieved, but only if the president is willing to pull the trigger. And I think he should, because I think despite Republican hesitancy on Capitol Hill, it is worse to not actually have a victory at the end of this conflict than it is to do what it takes to get to that victory. Absolutely.

And it's doable, especially if you see what Iran was, excuse me, Israel was just able to pull off. Iran fired at least 10 missiles in four waves of attacks on Sunday, hit nothing. Beirut, hours earlier, targeted the Tehran-backed militant group, Hezbollah. They hit a lot. They also killed one of the leading Hamas terrorists that did October 7th.

They had him there. Israel said its Air Force attack military targets in central and western Iran in response. And there are some reports unconfirmed as of yet. That they killed one of the IRGC, if not the head of the IRGC. And I really hope that is a true statement.

And keep in mind. No one really talks about that here, but we had over 13,000 strikes. We've killed about between 60 and 80 of their leaders. We don't talk about that. We just pose about, oh, I guess we're losing.

I guess we're losing. 8,000 Israeli strikes on top of that. Everything is in the context of a domestic political environment that doesn't actually want. By the way, the. The media is doing such a terrible job.

The legacy media is doing such a terrible job of covering what's actually gone on there. I think most people don't understand the degree to which they have been impacted by this. You know, their ballistic missile program, which is one that could threaten every capital, every major capital in Europe, has been completely set back. We've killed their best scientists. We've killed their leadership.

We've killed the we and the Israelis have had an enormous impact in terms of this regime's ability to project power. And yet, the way that this is framed domestically is as if the president hasn't been able to achieve anything close to that. It's completely wrong-headed. And I think that it's intentional. I think that they wanted this to become a quagmire for him, that they wanted it to become.

An echo of the George W. Bush era decisions, whatever you think of those. And of course, it's not, but it's also something where I think we can at least say, you know, the president has and the American military has proven how much it can achieve. We just need to take it all the way to the end. And I think, Brian, that we can.

It's just that there's a lot of hesitancy, I think, among Republicans on Capitol Hill, worried about their jobs in November. They just want to see those gas prices come down. I'll tell you what, I had Senator. Roger Wicker on, he's all in. He wants President Finish's job.

Obviously, Tom Cotton, Lindsey Graham, they want President. I don't really know outside Rand Paul, who just wants his own. uh country. I I have no idea what to do with them. But almost every Republican wants it.

They know the political risk, but they want it. Outside of Murkowski and Collins, who are in, Collins is in a different situation. I get it.

So, but they understand the danger. that Iran has posed because they sit there in those intelligence briefings, Ben, that you hear all about. And to pretend that Iran isn't the problem, this is a war of choice, is laughable. As soon as you say a statement like that, I go, okay, I really don't care what comes out next. No, I think you're completely right.

And I think that unfortunately the issue is that behind the scenes, a lot of these folks who aren't coming out and endorsing what the president is doing emphatically, they are raising misgivings and they're concerned about their own jobs. And there's a lot of people in the House that, quite frankly, haven't actually passed any bills or done any legislation or done anything approaching their jobs over the last couple of years who are super worried about whether they're going to get sent back to Washington or not. I think the president actually has the right approach to this, which is, I don't really care about this. I care more about making sure that beyond my lifetime that Iran has nothing approaching the ability to have a nuclear weapon that they can use to threaten not just Europe, not just our allies, but us. And that's something that I think the president should be commended for.

And look, I think he should do whatever it takes to finish the job. Right. And I know your father, Senator John McCain, your late father-in-law, would be saying the same thing. He would be right there in there saying, yes, finish it. And so I just hope the president understands that.

But he's two weeks, you know, a few weeks from 4th of July, 250th birthday, UFC fight on Sunday, myriad of events going on, and then Yaddi's primary.

So there is a, but we waited eight weeks. We've had an eight weeks ceasefire. But I think he needs two more weeks, if you talk to the military people, to actually finish the job. And then they come to the table because they have to come to the table instead of making it their choice to come to the table. Yes, I think that you're exactly correct, which is that we can't take the eye off the ball here.

It's one of these situations where the President needs I think the President does understand this. I think the rest of his party needs some help with this. But the President does understand It is worse to have a half victory than proceed in that direction under the auspices of the idea that this is going to be a truly emphatic elimination of their nuclear program rather than actually take those steps, even if those steps politically are risky, they're hard, they always are and they always will be. But you have to, when you have this opportunity, when you have this type of dramatic disaster that you've inflicted on this regime, you have to lean into it and you have to close the deal.

So how do you make a grand, what do you make of Graham Platiner? Why is he hanging in there and still on the ballot? And do you think it's just temporary? He'll win this, he'll win tomorrow, and then they just replace him with Jared Golden or something? You know, Brian, I think that there are two interesting things about this to me.

One is, I think if Graham Plattner wins, I don't think that he's going to step down. I don't think that they're going to be able to force him out. I think that they're too scared of their left flank, which is emphatically in favor of Graham Plattner, who views him as some kind of populist hero, as opposed to the person that you and I see who got rolled out of Hotchkiss. This is ridiculous. An oyster farmer who just provides oysters for his mom's restaurant.

I mean, it's just, it's absurd. I think that if he gets in there, I don't think that they're going to dislodge him. And I think that the Democrats have been over backwards so much to appeal to their populist left flank. I mean, we see that in the New Jersey race. We see that, you know, in Michigan.

We see that with this race. They are so scared of these people. And I don't know why they are willing to accept the idea that they just have to cede their entire party to these insane folks who are willing to accept anybody, really, anybody with any kind of, I mean, even with a Nazi tattoo on your chest, they will take you up as somebody to champion because they have such a fervent and radical and socialist belief about the way that our country needs to go.

Well, put it this way, I guess you're a little cynical, but I totally believe the story where he got drunk and got a tattoo and left it there for 20 years. It makes total sense. And then he didn't even know what it meant. And then he said, Ben, you're so skeptical because, but then the thing that really sold it for me was the wedding story. He says, well, my brother married a Jewish woman.

I never would have taken my shirt off with a nut knowing that I had a Nazi tattoo at his wedding if I thought it was a Nazi tattoo because she's Jewish.

So Ben, cl case closed. He had no idea. You know, my wife asked me the other day, how long would you date somebody if you found out they had a Nazi tattoo? And I said, is this a question? That's a small talk at your house.

Yeah, no, that's that's no, that's, and I was, I was just like, no, of course not. But the thing that actually, the thing that I just am amazed by is like, how can Chuck Schumer put up with this stuff, Brian? You know, come on. You know, there, there, there's a charge for nothing. I still thought that there were some Democrats that had like an ounce of consideration about the time that we're living in, about the rise of anti-Semitism, about the rise of anti-Semitic attacks on campuses and across the country.

They now own this. And I don't understand why you would ever want to own this. Have some kind of principle that says to you, no, this guy is not acceptable. And especially against Susan Collins, someone who is very much the absolute middle of the country in terms of her positioning. She is in no way a radical.

She's a total moderate. She works with. Democrats all the time, and you want to get rid of her so much you're willing to swallow this. Yes. That's crazy.

I know. And by the way, Susan Collins, who voted to impeach Trump, but she's a MAGA. Yeah, MAGA person. All right, Scott Pelley lost his job. I don't know how he's going to make ends meet.

Evidently, it was really without cause, except for he screamed at his boss in front of everyone and refused to show up for meetings. Here he is talking about getting fired, Cut 48. To understand your position in this, you would have been open to a path forward. wanted to remain at Sixty minutes? Absolutely.

A path forward to me was an obvious conclusion for what this meeting was going to be about. That's exactly what I thought. And I expected them to say, look, this is why we had to fire everybody. I mean, your questions, Scott, are valid. And here's why we did what we did.

So stay at 60 Minutes? Absolutely.

It didn't occur to me that this could happen. But Scott, in a meeting, you accused Barry Weiss, the head of the network, of wanting to murder the show, of coming into 60 Minutes with the agenda to dismantle the institution. And you did not think that that was going to have repercussions that could lead to your firing? We used to be able to have conversations like that at CBS News. But the difference today is that the people running CBS News will not be questioned.

Okay, Ben, your witness. Brian, I don't know how many times you've walked into the company meeting with your boss and said that they are murdering the show or murdering the company and thought that you were going to survive. But apparently, that's something Scott Delly thought that he could do. And it's just, it's absurd. I mean, Look, I worked at CBS before I thankfully came over to Fox News.

I had experiences with Scott Pelley. I do not have a lot of respect for Scott Pelly. He's exactly the same way behind the scenes that he is in front of the camera, which is that he is pompous. He is always chewing on his camera arm. It's absurd that this guy thinks.

that he could walk into a meeting like that and have some kind of perspective from the folks at CBS that would say, you are, you know, you are a holy being. You cannot possibly be fired when you are going after your boss, when you're angry at everything that's being done. Look, I don't know if what Barry Weiss is going to do at CBS is going to work.

Okay.

She doesn't have a long history in terms of television journalism. It's a hard thing to do. As you know, you're great at it because you've been doing it as long as you have. And you know how hard it is. And a lot of people think it's easier than it is.

But when it comes to Scott Pelley, this is not someone who was sacrosanct. This is not someone who had that kind of protection that he apparently believed that he did. And to say those kinds of things to your boss. You're going to get fired. Like, I mean, that's just, you know, I've, I've.

I've fired people before, and it's been for things that were less than what Scott Pelley.

Well, you've been a boss for a while, right, Ben? You've had people, you've had journalists with a huge chip on their shoulders. You got to deal with it. Yes. And then, yeah, or you don't.

Or you just say you can't. They're journalists. They're journalists. Of course, they're going to have personalities and emotions. And, you know, they're very, they're very, sometimes they're very fragile little flowers, as we all know when we watch CNN.

But the simple fact is that Scott Pelley could not have walked into that room and actually have believed to say all those things. Yeah, it's understated how much he lied in that podcast. It's astounding. Here's the thing. We need to move away from the pompous Democrat anchor.

We're just done with this. Nobody wants it. It's not something. I mean, come on. You know, if you want to want, if you want to watch something like that, tune in to Jimmy Kimmel or to John Oliver or something.

It's absurd. These guys are not actual journalists either. And the idea that, I mean, he compared what happened to 60 Minutes to having a spouse murdered. Come on, you know, get off your high horse. You know, I mean, you know, by the way, who was an actual amazing journalist?

Andy Rooney. He parachuted in with Stars and Stripes and he covered them taking a key bridge in Germany in the middle of the World War. And like, that's a guy who actually did see combat. And, you know, for Scott Pelle to say the things that he did, it's absurd. The Big Ben show as we get more of Ben Dominic.

Ben, thanks so much. Great job. Great to be with you. Back in a moment. Politics, current events, and news that affects you.

Brian's got a lot more to say. Stay with Brian Kilmead. From his mouth to your ears, it's Brian Kilmead. Yeah. Yeah, I just went a little long with Ben, but man, we have so much to talk about.

I mean, when you see what happened with 60 Minutes, when you see what's going on with this main, this clown, calls himself a regular guy, that up until 2025 was on a kick website, which is known for basically hooking up with teens. I'm not saying he did or didn't. I have no idea, but why would you be on that? And to say it's PTSD is an insult to people with PTSD. Just like this idiot thinks we're going to believe that he got a tattoo drunk and left it there, and it was from a Nazi prison guard symbol.

He is of it in the story. says there's others like that. A talk show that's real. This is the Brian Kilmead Show. Shut off by Ananobi.

Lambie inside. Laughing. Yeah. And the fire. Spurs regain the lead.

Their first lead of the second half. Brunson on the drive. Stocks. Falling away. It's up.

It's good. Brunson dribbles. Pulls up. Jump shot. Back of the rim.

Won't go. Will be the rebound. Stolen by Brunson and knocked down by. Wemby. Brunson will shoot free throws with 9.5 remaining.

Four seconds. Fox.

So when Banano pulls up, jumper. Long go. Rebound taken by Bassell. It's over. It's over.

The Knicks survive. This magic carpet ride continues. 13 straight victories, and they lead to nothing here in these NBA finals. Isn't that amazing, Steve Ashburner joins us now, senior writer of NBA.com. And he's all over this.

And, Steve, people in New York, he said, it's where I'm located, it's where I grew up. I'm first to admit that maybe I have that nick bias because you're seeing everything from the New York perspective. But around the country, are they amazed at this run as we are? Yeah, hi Brian, thanks for having me on. You know, I think so.

I think that the key to what the Knicks are doing is. getting hot at the right time. They are not and have not been this season a a great team, but they're they're looking like a great team now and they're playing like that. And they are, I guess, you know, stirring the memories of famous Knicks of the past just by the togetherness of this group. And yeah, there are a couple stars on their squad, but There's really no statistical leader and a guy who's up for MVP of the league, a shoe-in for that type of thing.

This truly is the whole being greater than the sum of the parts. But yet, that got you a three-seat in the regular season. The same team. And then they start, and they were down 2-1 to Atlanta. And people are going, okay, if Mike Brown doesn't get past this, he gets fired.

And then they just don't lose again. They go through that series and the next series and the next series, and then they go to San Antonio and win two of those games. And you write about Carl Anthony Towns. Tell us about how the 7.1 guy is doing against the 7.5 center. Yeah, well, you know, I tend to think once you get up to that rarefied air up there above seven feet, how much difference is there?

I mean, I know it looks. Pretty clearly different, but you know, Carl's got size, he's got more breath than Wemby, he's a strong guy, and he's able to put pressure on Wembanyama. Wembanyama hasn't always guarded him, nor Carl. Carl, you know, the other way, but it's been enough that you've been able to see the effects that Carl has, whether it's taking Wemanyama outside, and we haven't seen a lot of towns'. A three-point game yet, or just getting him on his hip and driving to the basket and slamming.

I mean, that's something that Women Yama has to contend with. And, you know, he made Chet Holmgren really struggle in the West finals, you know, to the point that people are speculating about Holmgren's future with that team. I mean, that's unfair, but sometimes that's recency bias in our minds. And, you know, Carla stepped up to that challenge. I've known him since he arrived in Minnesota as a rookie.

And, you know, I think this is a tremendous opportunity for him. He's viewed differently now, even just in the last week, than he has been by a lot of fans throughout much of his career because of the maturity he's showing. He seems to be able to pick his spots better now in terms of when he tries to be the offensive force. And when he facilitates his teammates' games, and it's been a perfect fit. He's the MVP through two games.

No question. And the thing is, you said he's perceived differently now, but is he different? I mean, is he I mean, the confidence he has, driver to the basket, you know, not shooting outside, taking on the best player and the most exciting player in the league, that was his intent from day one. And the way he plays defense, and he's kind of avoided the silly foul. Yeah, you're right.

I mean, foul trouble's been a problem for him in the past. Complaining to referees when the play starts heading down the other end of the floor, that's been an issue with Carl in the past. That to me is all maturity. And, you know, maybe it's a function of, you know, getting to be 30 years old, fully processing a lot of the grief he's gone through with his mother dying during the COVID crisis and other family members as well. The trade, even when he was with New York, you know, at the start of the year, coming off of summer, hearing Yannis, Andre and Kumpo speculation, and maybe Carl would be in play again if the Knicks wanted to get Yannis.

I mean, so. You got to be able to be pretty strong mentally to shut out a lot of the distractions around you. And I think right now he's in a great zone. He keeps preaching zero zero, as do some of his other teammates. And if they look at zero zero, Right until the point where they've got four victories.

If that works for them, you know, bully. Yeah, and what you're saying is pretend like we have not we're not up two games to none coming home. And you have two games at home, Monday and Wednesday.

So what do you think is going to happen tonight? And we're talking to Steve Ashburner and he's senior writer with NBA.com. Steve, what do you think happens? I would really be surprised if it's a sweep. I mean, I get how the Knicks are playing and this winning streak that they have.

You can't take that lightly. That's not easy to do, even if you're coming out of the East against a lesser level of competition, allegedly. I mean, you're going to get teams' best shots for the most part in the postseason. But it's hard for me just having watched the Spurs. In the preliminary rounds and how they handled some adversity.

Wemanyama specifically, you know, he suffered a concussion in the first round. He got in sideways with the officials when he threw the elbow at Nas Reed in the second round against Minnesota. He had a poor, I think it was game five against Oklahoma City, and he didn't talk to the media, and he got, you know, some stern looks from that. And he's come back strong from each of those episodes. And I would consider that what we've seen through those two games in San Antonio.

up to and including his his pass into uh Stefan Castle's back. That's adversity that He's going to be determined to come back from. And they call him the alien for all of his physical attributes. But I mean, he seems to be able to process things and absorb and learn lessons. Put that knowledge to use very quickly.

So I would expect at some point here, and probably in game three because You get down 3-0. No team has ever come back from that in the NBA in any best of seven game series.

Now, you could say, well, that would be the perfect opportunity for Wim and Yama to show how different he is. No, no, no, that's too big of an ask. Game three changes everything. If it's 2-1, now all of a sudden, there are. You know, there's precedent for A team coming back from that.

It's not good when you're down 2-0 and lose two home games, but there's a way to dig out.

So, I want you to hear DeRona Fox talk about defending Jalen Brunson, who was ineffective down the stretch. And no one's going to be perfect. Cut 35. You know, you watch him. He has some of the best footwork in the game.

Obviously, he's a tough shot maker. He can really shoot the ball. He's strong. You know, people talk about his size. Yeah, he's not tall, but he's strong and he knows how to get to a spot.

He plays angles well. But yeah, we've done a good job on him through the course of the game, but he's made big shots. I mean, he's been a clutch player of the year. Obviously, probably the biggest reason why they're here. But we have to continue to just try to make it tough on him.

And I think we're doing a pretty good job at that. And he's played well despite that. Here's what Brunson said about what they need to do, CUP 36. Just when you look at the film, what are the things that you guys need to clean up to be prepared for game three? I think playing better with the...

the lead that we had in the fourteenth, uh the fourteen point lead. The way they fought back and took the leads is a credit to who they are. Us staying com composed helped us win that game, but we do need to be able to finish the game better. Uh it's just unacceptable the way we just obviously just let that fourteen point lead go, the way we did. Would have been a disaster had they lost that game.

Coming back, it would be more of a desperate situation.

So what do you think about the way Brunson's been guarded and how he's been playing?

Well, I mean, I got to give a lot of credit to that guy. I I was thinking the other morning after game one, who does he remind me of? What's a good comp for Jalen Brunson? And it it it might be odd, but where I landed was For people old enough to recall the style. Of Smokin' Joe Frazier.

A boxer. The way that Brunson is sort of relentless and he burrows in and he takes his small steps and he angles himself and he you can't get him off of you. And it just seems like he's strong physically. He's 6'2 and he's thick. And he he knows how to um Sort of get around defenders in tight spots and he sees the floor so well.

So to me, it's just that he's going to keep coming. And if the shots don't fall, that's not going to change anything. He's got the history of great performance in clutch time. And we've seen that in this game and little things, you know, tipping. Typical re an offensive rebound.

Mikhail Bridges caught it. Got it to Brunson over in the right corner in game one. And that started the Knicks down the stretch. of that victory. And then of course, you know, having the presence of mind to Be able to swoop in there when the ball hit Stefan Castle's back, not only get the ball, but.

I guess so rattled Victor that he ended up with a foul and the winning free throw.

So Brunson to me is just, you know, a gamer. We throw those things around, they're cliches, but But Steve, a number two pick, a number two pick on Dallas that they viewed as expensive. Yeah. So you know what I like about this, like sometimes they have trends. Remember famously LeBron goes, the triplets go down and they go down to Miami.

And the stars ever since then have been getting together and deciding what teams they're going to be on. And now, maybe that was the trend one. Go get Durant. You know, go get a star. Go get LeBron.

You know, go see if you can turn your fortunes around. And then, if it doesn't go well, they decide to leave on their own. You know, when Kyrie Irving decides the Nets aren't going to go anywhere, he decides I'm going to demand a trade.

Now, if success leaves clues, The new formula might be so good for the league. We're going to build a team. We're going to see if we can grow our stars rather than buy our stars. And I love that element of sports to watch a guy grow. rather than just go get an established star and then hope you can buy a championship.

Yeah, no doubt about it.

Now, the NBA changed its financial structure to try to discourage the clustering of superstars. It's very expensive now to even dare consider that. Plus, it's a copycat league up until Teams copy things and it doesn't go well. You know, the Lakers assembled a bunch of guys for a while there. The other teams have tried to do it and it hasn't.

With the Clippers, when they got Paul George and Kawhi Leonard and had nothing to show for it.

So the organic team building, not only is it financially responsible, but now we're seeing the successes of it. And frankly, the team that got the most. Credit for that in recent years was Oklahoma City. And I'm actually. I'm not happy they lost, but I am eager to see how they respond to this because they have had everything set up now with their draft picks and their deep roster.

And yeah, eventually they'd have to pay some of those guys. They've got some adversity. Are they going to veer? Are they going to change their direction? Or are they so backloaded that it's just going to be okay, our next time at this?

But yeah, I like your observation. I think that this is an easy kind of team to root for. To me, this is. The 2016 Cubs, in a sense. I hear you.

And lastly, President's going to be there tonight. It's going to be packed with celebrities as well. Minimum ticket, I think you're spending $5,000 to go to the game. Tell me about how that changes di dynamic out di dan dynamic out there.

Well, I remember reading about a situation where the Beatles gave a concert back in the day, and it wasn't their typical audience, you know, of screaming young girls. It was a lot of hoity-toity elites, and John Lennon said something like, you know, those of you in the good seats, rattle your jewelry. You know, you wonder whether that's going to be a situation where there's a little less passion if you don't have the leather-lunged, blue-collar people that have supported this team, you know, day in, day out.

Now, NBA tickets never are cheap, but, you know, this is a whole new level. It's crazy the money that's being drawn by these tickets. I still think once a place is loud, it's loud. you know that i don't expect it to really affect the spurs But um It is going to be happening. you know i i hope all goes well with the president coming on by and that uh you know People just really throw themselves into the spirit of the sport.

I thought the NDA Commissioner Adam Silver talked about sort of the togetherness of an event like this. This is what sports is best for. I mean, you could be diametrically opposed to the guys sitting at your elbow, but if you're rooting for the same team or against the same team, you've got all sorts of stuff in common. And it's been brought up, and I never thought about it before. But the Nets, you know, to all the whatever credit you want to give them, it's not like Mets Yankees, not like Jets Giants, it's not like Islanders Rangers.

It's really the Knicks. And the Nets, even if they get to the finals, they don't have the same passion and rivalry.

So people are really united. Like when the Mets get to the World Series, 50% of the city is not happy. You know, the the Rangers win to the Stanley Cup, fifty percent of the city is not happy. Or the state. 100% I think ninety seven percent of the people are looking are rooting for the same team, which very rarely happens here.

Yeah, it's just it is impressive to see. I mean, you see it. You know, I'm not a native New Yorker. I grew up in Chicago, but you know, it reminds me of the Cubs and their fans. And when things are going well on those rare occasions in Chicago, you know, it's just a virus in a good way that sweeps through people.

I see everybody wearing Knicks jerseys. We have a nine-month-old grandson. And our daughter sent us a photo of him in a Jalen Brunson jersey. And I immediately wanted to know, how long have you guys had that jersey? Because I don't go for front running.

And they're like, no, no, no, they've had that jersey for about four months.

So he's been a Knicks fan most of his life. And he will be forever. Yep. Steve, good luck tonight. I mean, I'm so glad for you guys.

The NBA's front and center. Everyone's watching, and hopefully the ratings reflect that. Steve Ashburner, thank you. Enjoy it, Brian. You got it, NBA.com.

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That episode of Sixty Minutes. came within 19 minutes of not Making error. Is it possible to see this as the system working? She had notes, you felt they didn't make sense to take, the piece ran, and there was no retaliation.

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Someone wants to adjust your painting or your package. You feel you resent it. But to the interviewer's question, she's like, but didn't this work? You didn't include the updates, and they still let it run. CBS put out a statement too to the effect of this is just the normal editorial process.

You put in notes on a package. You think you might. They didn't, they still aired it. It's how dare you? How dare you approach me with your notes?

You're Barry Weiss, you wrote editorials for the New York Times. You didn't start the free press.

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But it worked for 50 years. But there was respect underneath that. Brian Kill Me Show.