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If you're listening to it later, coming up later this hour, James Whaley will be joining us from Mission Roll Call to talk about the upcoming Memorial Day celebration on Monday. And speaking of my podcast, this guest is often on my podcast. He's been a guest several times. Lieutenant Colonel Alan West is with us. He's a The executive director of the American Constitutional Rights Union.
He's a former Florida congressman, and he is an author as well. There is nothing the man can't do. Colonel, welcome to this show. Thank you for joining me.
Well, it's a pleasure to be with you, Mary. And I still have not mastered the art of the dunk, so there's something that I can't do.
Okay.
Well, you know, everybody's got a flaw. And you found yours, and it's really not that bad. You can follow him on X at Alan A-L-L-I-N West. Thank you so much again for being here. It's always a great day when I start it with you.
So. My pleasure. I want to talk to you about, since you're in Texas, let's talk about the endorsement of Ken Paxton over John Cornyn. This was a big deal, and I understand why President Trump did it, but was it the right choice? It's Well, I think the right choice is the choice of the people.
And I think that the President held off until as late as he possibly could. He made the endorsement on the second day of early voting in this runoff. Today is the last day of early voting, and the runoff election itself will be on next Tuesday.
So I think that the President maybe saw some trends, indicators that Ken Paxson was pulling ahead. Because you look at this past week, I believe if I got the numbers right, the President was 3737 in all of his primary candidate support. And I didn't think he wanted to have a bad outcome here in Texas.
So I think he made a safe choice. I think he made the choice of the grassroots people here in Texas. And we'll see what happens in the general election. It's going to be ugly. I can tell you that.
So does it have anything? Do you think his endorsement has anything to do with the fact that Jon Thune and Susan Collins and Mitch McConnell were all pulling for Cornyn? And they're not necessarily President Trump's favorite people.
Well, of course. I mean, what you see happening in the NRSC, I believe, the National Republican Senatorial Committee kind of, I believe, put out a little message. They weren't happy with the President making that endorsement because you do have that protectionist society of the GOP establishment that aligned with John Cornyn. But John Cornyn has made some votes, some decisions, especially his anti-Second Amendment stance that he has taken and siding with red flag laws, which is a big no-go here in the state of Texas.
So I think those are the type of things that really hurt him. And he's the type of guy that in the six-year term, four years, you never hear from him. In the last six months of right before a reelection, you start to get more and hear more about him. And I think President Trump saw through that. And I don't think that there was any chance that Senator Cornyn was going to get President Trump's endorsement.
Now, do you think a lot of people point to Ken Paxton's troubles, legal troubles? in the past. Do you think that any of that comes into play?
Well, Ken Paxon has enough baggage to fill up a C-17 cargo aircraft, and I think that that's what we'll hear about in the general election. There's no doubt about it, because the Democrats cannot run on James Tallarico. They have to try to run against Ken Paxon if Ken Paxon ends up winning this runoff.
So I think that's what you see that's going to come down the pipe. But James Tallarico on the Democrat side, I mean, between Tallarico and Jasmine Crockett, the Democrats did not have anyone to offer to be a viable candidate for a Senate here in the state of Texas. But we have to be very careful in Texas because the major population centers, you know, Dallas County here where I am, Austin, Travis County, Houston, Harris County, El Paso, El Paso County, San Antonio, Bear County, they're blue. And so those population centers, we've got to make sure that we turn out a good percentage of vote to make sure that we can be strong. You cannot continue to just.
rely on East and West Texas to win Texas. Right. Yeah, no, absolutely. Texas is just so huge, and it differs. It just differs so much.
The population, it's a country within itself because you do have the rural areas, you have the ranchers, you have the Austin, you know, and Houston, you have the cities that are more left, you have the coast.
So there's just so much and huge swaths of suburbs. You have a growing Muslim population as well there. You have a large Hispanic population, too.
So there's a lot of elements to Texas. Yeah.
Well, the thing about the Hispanic population down in South Texas, in 2024, 13 to 15 of those border counties went to President Trump because illegal immigration is a big deal, and it still remains a big deal. Dallas and Houston are a couple of your top cities when it comes to human and sex trafficking here in the United States of America.
So that's still something very prevalent. And I think that the issue of the Islamic incursion into Texas is going to play out huge. It is playing out as a big deal in the runoff for Attorney General here between Congressman Chip Roy and State Senator Mays Middleton. Because what we see happening up here in North Texas, I think someone just said the 263rd mosque was just opened up here in the state of Texas. And I believe that Texas is being, yeah, Texas is being targeted by CARE and others because if you can topple Texas, then you can topple any other state in the country.
And you do see this alignment. I call it the Red-green alliance between the Marxists and the Islamists, and it's very prevalent here in Texas. Yeah, no, I see the reports, but that's a topic that we can maybe delve into on another time, get into that a little bit more, because I do think some areas it seems are targeted.
Somalis were put in certain states, you know, in the Midwest of the country. Like, why there? Why would you put them there? Yeah, so you know, they were in targeted areas, and they don't leave that area. It becomes and they don't assimilate, and then it just becomes almost like an island unto itself in the middle of the state.
But we don't have time to do that now. I would like to coming up on the other side of the break, I'd like to ask you about the DNC autopsy report.
So we'll do that. But very quickly, before we go to the break, very quickly, President Trump says it's time to stop playing with the clocks. And he is pushing the Sunshine Protection Act. We'll be making daylight savings time permanent. It's part of a vote today in the Energy and Commerce Committee.
Now, he chose that. 50% of the people are going to be unhappy. It's just the way it is.
Some people want it late in the morning, some people want it late in the afternoon. He's chosen dark in the morning, late in the afternoon. What do you think? I'm fine with that. I like the light going on to the afternoon, but I think a lot of people will be happy with not having these clocks going back and forth because you always get someone showing up at the wrong time at church on Sunday.
I don't mind falling behind, but when I was working a morning show, Springing Forward, we were walking into walls for like two weeks. It was really hard. It's really, you have no idea. And more people have heart attacks in the spring when you jump forward. When you spring forward, the the heart attack rate goes up.
See?
So it's not.
Well, luckily for me, I have a pacemaker, so I'm okay. My pacemaker doesn't pay attention to the daylight, sunlight.
Well, you are very lucky. We should all get them. Maybe this will solve that problem. All right, coming up, we'll talk about the autopsy, the DNC autopsy report, partially that came out, not all of it. They're treating it like the Epstein files.
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See full terms at mintmobile.com. Radio that makes you think. This is the Brian Kill Me Show. I think it's uh pretty unbelievable that That Gaza would not be mentioned once in the autopsy report. I mean, you don't have to be a rocket scientist to know that Gaza was one of the big issues in the 2024 election.
I don't really care. I mean, I'm not sure those are the right people to diagnose what went wrong with the election. A lot of us have theories. A lot of it was unavoidable.
So this story hasn't interested me for a long time. And there you go. That was AOC, of course, and then Rokana. And the last one, Chris Murphy. He didn't care.
Frankly, I don't care. I don't know if those are the right people to analyze what went wrong. What were they talking about? The DNC's autopsy report. You know, you go back and you look, okay, what did we do wrong?
You do an analysis and you find out where we could do better next time. It's a pretty common thing to do, but the DNC did it, and this report. Hasn't been really released in full. Ken Martin, the DNC chair, Ken Martin, didn't want to release the report. He said the sourcing was weak, it was incomplete, which I don't know how that happens.
So he did release some of it, and it is pretty incomplete. And so now they're trying to figure out what went wrong with just that little snippet. Joining us, Lieutenant Colonel Alan West is still here with us.
So, sir, what do you think is going on with this report? They didn't want to release it at all to begin with, and they say that the sourcing's weak, it's incomplete. What's going on?
Well, I just think that what is happening is that they don't want to admit that they're completely wrong on all of the issues. Even when they try to talk about affordability, they didn't want to talk about affordability during the Biden administration when everyone else was suffering under those policies. Look, the Democrat Party right now is a tone-deaf, brain-dead party. To say that Gaza was not mentioned, I mean, why would Gaza need to be mentioned? Because the only thing I can see is that an Islamic terrorist organization that the United States of America has designated, so Hamas, went across border, attacked a sovereign nation, brutally murdered, raped, killed, and even put babies in ovens.
And we're supposed to be talking about Gaza. I mean, for what? That area is controlled by a terrorist organization. And if the Democrat Party, which now has really become a Marxist group, is aligning itself with Islamic terrorists, then They are tone deaf to understand that that's not what the American people want.
So I don't think that any autopsy report is going to change the direction that this party's heading.
So, I guess part of the problem for the Democrats is that Nancy Pelosi is done agent out. I mean, like, she's really stepped back. She is fading back, and she was the driving power that held that party together. I don't like her policies, but I admire her political abilities. She was definitely a leader, right?
So, without her, though, who is the leader of the Democratic Party at this point? Barack Obama. They don't have a leader.
Well, no. I mean, Barack Obama is all about Barack Obama. And when you remember him being in the White House, I mean, he lost countless amounts of House seats, Senate seats, gubernatorial mansion seats, state Senate, and state house seats.
So he's about himself. And I don't see Hakeem Jeffries, no. He's not the leadership type. AOC, Bernie Sanders, no. And so what you see is a party that is out there like a ship at sea without a rudder.
It has no means by which it can steer itself. It is still a ship at sea, but it is heading in no real definite direction.
So, the only direction that I see this party headed into is a far-left Marxist direction. And that is antithetical to who we are as the American people and our founding documents. And then, furthermore, this alignment with Islamists also shows. Look at some of the people that they have running. Look at Zoran Mamdani.
Look at the senatorial candidate, the Democrat senatorial nominee, I'm sorry, out of Michigan. Those type of people. Hassan Piker that they're interviewing at the New York Times, and he's talking about political assassinations. No, they're going in the wrong direction. And again, they have separated themselves from the core of the American people, the working American people.
But. And all of this being said, I agree with you on everything. Nancy Pelosi had the chance to rein the squad in so that they would not go down this road as a party.
So, for all of her political acumen, she blew that. When the squad was sitting in her office, like the second day they were elected, when the second day they were sworn in, they were sitting in her office and protesting. She didn't kick them out. She, I think, she was surprised and didn't quite know how to handle how outrageous the squad was with their behavior. And she enabled it.
So, is it this not ultimately Nancy Pelosi's fault as well?
Well, the old guard of the Democratic Party, I mean, look at Chuck Schumer. The old guard of the Democratic Party is now in deference to the young leftist radicals that are taking over their party. And they are afraid of them. There is nothing they can do to them. What they believe is that they have to parrot their talking points.
They have to lurch to the left right along with them because they want to have political survival, even in their aged, waning years.
So I think that what you see is really an absurd, a very dangerous changing of the guard in the party that we once knew as the Democratic Party. Look, my parents growing up in the inner city of Atlanta, Georgia, were Democrats. They would not be a part of this party today because they don't believe in those strong conservative values of faith, family, and freedom and liberty and service to the country and hard work ethic and quality education.
So, no, Nancy Pelosi and Chuck Schumer and all this old guard, they're afraid. Look at what's happening in Massachusetts. Where Ed Markey is being challenged by Seth Moulton. I don't know where that'll end up, but the fact that that's happening, that tells you something.
So, what is happening on the right, though? You know, Donald Trump obviously has clearly exerted his power over the Republican Party. He's made it MAGA. He's reshaped the party. You were saying earlier, look at his endorsements in the primaries.
He had a perfect record, right? He got them all, 100%. Yeah, look at Thomas Massey. Look what happened to those state senators in Indiana. I mean, that tells you something.
But again, I think it's very important that the Republican Party draws a clear delineation between who they are and how they're going to govern as opposed to the Marxist leftists that have taken over the Democrat Party. You can't win by sitting back and saying these guys on the other side are just that bad. They're just that crazy. You have to be on offense. You've got to show people why they should vote for you, and you've got to make those connections.
And I mean, making connections across all demographics in this country. Blacks and Hispanics, I mean, look at the inner cities, the urban centers. They're a complete example of the failure of leftist policies. That's where Republicans should be going in and making more inroads. Yeah, I just think that there are so many people who suffer from TDS who they just will not vote for a Republican because they think, oh, well, they're a Republican.
Well, I hate Trump.
So I saw a video of Spencer, someone in LA. Hey, you're going to vote for Spencer Pratt. And they're walking dog. She says a dog. He goes, you know, he wants to stop them injecting the dogs on the streets to see if the fentanyl is any good.
She goes, well, he's a Republican, so she won't vote for him. Yeah, I mean, you just can't get beyond it, but I'm starting to believe that that's the 35 to 42 percent of folks, I believe truthfully, Mary, that 55 to 60 percent they have the common sense to be able to do the right thing when they are when they hear about the right thing. And I think that that's the whole part of the messaging and the marketing and the communications that has to happen. Spencer Pratt may end up surprising a lot of people. I hope so.
I hope so. You have a lot more faith than I do. And my God, we got it around, Lieutenant Colonel Alamos. Have a wonderful weekend, and thank you so much for taking the time to join me here. Coming up next, James Whaley will be joining us for Mission Roll Call.
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Let's talk about why we have Monday off with James Whaley. He's retired Army Lieutenant Colonel and the CEO of Mission Roll Call. They're a friend of the show. You can find them at missionrollcall.org or on X at Mission Roll Call. James, welcome back to the Brian Kilmead show.
Hello, how are you? I'm doing well, Mary. Thank you so much for having me on and that's important occasion that's coming up on Monday. Yes, so let's talk about that. Memorial Day to me is always it's always dicey in that I have friends who are veterans and I always reach out to them on Veterans Day, of course.
But then I'm like, do I reach out to them on Memorial Day too?
Well, you know, Memorial Day is a little bit different because it really is designed to reflect upon those that gave the ultimate sacrifice for our country. And I think it's time for the entire nation to do that, right? We lost 7,057 during the war on terror. We've lost nearly 1.3 million over the history of our nation. And so you think about those families, the brothers, the sisters, the mothers, fathers, what impact that has.
So, you know, it's a solemn occasion that I think sometimes people lose sight of and just take it as a day off. Right. Oh, I agree. 100%. But I think people also have this weird thing of like, well, how exactly do I commemorate this day?
Is a question I think a lot of people have is like, you know, flying your flag, obviously, yes, but it's not a happy, it's not a celebratory day off. And I think that's where it's different from all. the other ones. I agree. I always get a little upset when I see Memorial Day sales, you know, because I'm just like, well, that's not really what this day should be about.
But I understand that one way to look at it is that that ultimate sacrifice that so many people gave for the freedom of our country allows us to go and have a happy day, allows us to go out and meet with family and friends. I think you're never wrong when you meet a veteran saying, thank you for your service. Tell me a little bit about your time in service and let them just kind of explain a little bit and talk a little bit about what they've done. You see them light up when you do that, and it doesn't matter what age they are. They remember with unbelievable clarity just about every day they were in service and what they did.
So I know that you do that. We've talked about that before in one of the other times that we talked about what you do. And if everybody did what you did, we'd be in a much better place as a country, I think.
Well, I should tell my husband that I make the world a better place. I wouldn't go that far, but. It sounds like there's a gift involved with that, yeah.
So, so my I I was I was thinking about this, and because again, every Memorial Day, I'm like, gosh, do I reach out to my friends? As I said, I wasn't quite sure. And I thought, is this something where would it be a good idea in order to instill appreciation for the country, which I think is lacking in children? Is this something, is this a time where parents take their kids to like a veteran cemetery? Or is that not appropriate?
I think that is absolutely important to do. And if you don't have the ability to do that, you can show them something that shows the Arlington Cemetery or have them sit down and talk to a veteran. I think that connection is important. We have about 18 million veterans in our country. But of course, they're dispersed, and only right now, actively 1% of our population serves.
And that's really mind-boggling when you think about the op tempo and all the things that are going on in the world. I think it's very important to have your children and young people understand this. And, you know, I have to be honest, when my daughters were going to school, there were some high school teachers that really. Pushed them away from wanting to go to the academy. For example, one of my daughters ended up going to the military academy and graduating from the military academy, and uh and the teachers were You know, very decidedly against that.
So I think we as parents just can't assume that when we hand our children over to a school, that they're going to instill to them the importance of what service looks like, what serving your country is all about, the important aspects of why we have people in the military. We have to take that on as brothers, sisters, uncles, and aunts, and mom and dad to make sure that happens. It's very important that the mission knows that. This holiday is tough for the families, as you started out saying here. And I don't think we think of the families enough.
We think of the person in uniform, but the whole family serves. And we've had this conversation, and that's why mission roll call is so important because it's not just the people in uniform, but it's also the families as well. Is this really more of a day of recognition for the families as opposed to service members who are here? I think it's both. I think it's remembering those that did give the ultimate sacrifice either in wartime or in training, but it's also to reach out to those families that have lost somebody.
I think it's important for us to always remember those that have fallen, but it's also important, vitally important, that we continue to serve those who come home. and that we are measured as a nation not on this one day and what we do on Memorial Day. It really is what are we doing for veterans and those families three hundred sixty four other days of the year. Yeah.
Someone just sent me a text who's listening and said, My dad. Was always quick to remind me that Memorial Day doesn't honor servicemen and service women or veterans. It's a federal holiday in the United States remembering the people who died while serving in this country's armed forces. Don't let any politicians tell you otherwise. The number totals, I'm sorry, the number totals, almost half of which were in the Civil War fighting against one another.
It was first recognized in 1868. It was set on the last Monday in May, starting in 1971. Give those who gave the ultimate sacrifice for our nation more than a passing thought, not only Monday, but throughout the year. Those are the things we need to instill in our kids. Yes, we certainly do because I fear some of these things are politicized or glossed over or not emphasized to the amount that they should be.
I mean, you think about and bravo to your listener who wrote that in because they were spot on, but you think about all the it's one point three million across our country's history, but you think about even since nine point eleven and the war that we've had and what we're doing right now, When somebody does pass away, it's usually very early in their life. They had a full life ahead of them. And it affects that family the rest of their lives on earth when they lose a son or a daughter or a brother or a sister. I'll tell you a quick story. You know what?
Actually, can you wait, hold on, can you hold that? We'll go to the other side because I also want to quickly go into what, just to remind people, what Mission Roll Call does for maybe someone who's listening who hasn't heard about you. Just a little bit about the resources that you provide as well.
So just hang on. We've got more with James Whaley coming up here on the Brian Kilmead Show. Where big stories meet bigger conversations. Stay informed and energized with the Brian Kilmead Show. The fastest three hours in radio.
You're with Brian Kilmead. Welcome back to the Brian Killmead Show. Our guest is James Whaley, retired Army Lieutenant Colonel and the CEO of Mission Roll Call. You can find them at missionrollcall.org. And that's what I want to talk to you about now, James: is your organization, what you do.
Just we don't have a lot of time, but exactly what Mission Roll Call does and what it offers veterans and their families. Sure.
Well, we take veterans' voices and their families So we take those voices and amplify them so that we turn awareness into action. And what we do is we identify where veterans are falling through cracks. We take all of our polling information, what veterans are telling us, and we share that with good people like yourselves so the word gets out. And we also share it with decision makers in DC, at the VA, and at Congress. And we can take this polling and break it down to a congressional district.
So we've been able to influence a lot of important bills lately. We're able to bring awareness so that bad decisions aren't being made. And we think this is very important because we have to come up with practical solutions that improve access to care, mental health support, transition services, and just making sure veterans and their families are transitioning well, getting into the American way of life, and be able to prosper and not suffer. And that's so important. And I also want to say here, I thought it was so.
Refreshing and so inspiring is the word to see Johnny Joey Jones re-enlist in the Marine Corps. Here is a man who lost both of his legs, had every right to sit back, right, and say, I gave, I gave two legs to service. He has severe damage to his arms as well. But he said, if there's an opportunity for me to serve, there's no reason why a no-legged 40-year-old staff sergeant should be able to put the uniform on other than these men believed it. And the goal here is to open that door for anyone else that has something left to give.
And I thought that was so inspiring because I think part of the problem when these men and women come back into the country and they try to readjust to a civilian life, we know that that's tough. But seeing someone who says, wait, you still have a role, you still can give, regardless of what burdens you bear with you.
So, how important is that? It's so important. And congratulations to him. What a hero! Doing that.
What an inspiration to veterans in the country for doing something like that. You know, the same DNA that makes somebody want to join the military and serve the military, that whole idea of being part of something bigger than yourself and serving your country and serving those that are to the left and right of you, that doesn't turn off the day you get out of the military. That continues. And so we want to make sure, and this is one of the things we're helping veterans and their families do through our website that really plugs veterans into other veteran support organizations and get them to volunteer and get involved. Is service to the nation doesn't stop when you take off the uniform.
We expect you to continue to serve. You just have to find that way to serve. And that's so important for veterans. Veterans are really great at helping other veterans. You get one a call and they'll stop what they're doing and run to you.
What they're not so good about is raising their hand saying we need some help. But by bringing them together, we'll be able to identify that better and identify folks. That needs some just a little bit of help to get over the hill that they're trying to climb right now.
So that's what we're all about. We do it in a way that allows veterans and their families to go to our site. Find out the latest news, plug into veteran support organizations that can put their zip code in, what they're looking for, and we'll match them. with an organization that they can get involved with. And we just think that it's so important that we do that.
And we encompass the entire family because when you are a spouse of a veteran or you're a child of a veteran, you're in the military, you're just not getting paid for it. Absolutely. Exactly. It is so, so important. And I like that the stigma of asking for help has been whittled away.
You know, for our parents' generation, for Vietnam, Korea, all those. There was a stigma about asking for help, about needing help. You're supposed to be strong and just carry on.
So I'm glad that we have decided that maybe that wasn't such a good way to handle things.
So that stigma is now gone, which is fantastic. I just have one quick question. I just want to know this because I think of these things when I get to speak with you. You know, we see so many homeless veterans on the streets. And with all the help that's out there, with all the programs, with all the organizations like yours, how is this still happening?
There's a number of reasons. I'll try to make it quick because it is a complex issue. The challenge is we don't know how many veterans are homeless right now. We really don't. We will say thirty to thirty five thousand a night.
The fact is as much Much north of that. It's much larger than that. And the reason I say that is we only do one day a year in January, a point-in-time survey where volunteers go out to cities and count the homeless in our country. That's not the most scientific way of finding out where all your veterans are and where their families are. A mother who has children who's a veteran who's homeless is not going to raise her hand because she's worried about losing her kids.
Some veterans are not identified as veterans because they don't want to be. We have veterans homeless in rural areas that are now being accounted for.
So the number is larger than we think.
Some states don't do a good job at it.
Some counties do a horrible job at it.
So it's a complex issue. And I think one of the challenges is that, you know, there, by the grace of God, go by, right?
Sometimes somebody gets out of the military. They have a job, but they're not really making a lot of money, and then a transmission goes out, or they get a flat tire, and they lose their job. And then it's one thing after another, and they feel isolated because they're no longer with the men and women they served with.
So it's a slippery slope that gets them to homelessness. But I've talked to a number of them, and I'll tell you. It's almost like it's just one bad thing happened and then something else was the catalyst to make him homeless. We really need to make this a national priority because homelessness affects veteran suicide. And veterans issues is a national security issue because we have an all volunteer force.
We have to make sure that we take care of veterans because that has an impact on those that are raising their hand right now to join. Yeah, no, absolutely. And I think you're right. You see a lot of drugs, and I think the drugs come from not being able to cope and not reaching out for help. And so, for a lot of reasons, people wind up on drugs.
And I think a lot of it has to do, again, with that issue, just not being able to cope, not being able to handle it. And so they wind up on the drugs and they wind up homeless, and it's a downward spiral. And it's very, sometimes very, very hard to get them help. But you guys do a great job. Thank you so much.
Missionrollcall.org is the organization. Feel free to reach out to them. They are there to help you. And please don't feel ashamed or embarrassed because that's the stigma that these guys are trying to erase. James Whaley, thank you so much for joining me, especially on this Memorial Day weekend.
Thank you so much. My pleasure, and thank you so much for covering it. Absolutely. Okay, very quickly here, I want to get to cut 23. If we can do this, we've got a big, something else big is happening and is happening on Memorial Day weekend, and it is one Don Jr.
getting hitched. But will the Donald be? Be there, the Donalds, be there. It was Yeah. your son's wedding this weekend by the way?
Uh he likely to go. But it's going to be just a small little private affair and I'm going to try and make it. I'm I'm in the midst. I said, you know, this is not good timing for me. I have a thing called Iran and other things.
Yeah, that's one I can't win on. If I do attend, I get killed. If I don't attend, I get killed. By the fake news, of course, I'm talking about no, but he's. Get a very person who I've known for a long time, and hopefully they're going to have a great marriage.
Yeah, hopefully they will. But I get it. And it's so funny. President Trump is absolutely right. I have seen so many posts saying that, oh, he can't go to his son's wedding.
What kind of father is this? That's the most important thing. And then other people, of course, if he decides not to go, the left is going to jump in. He started a war. He needs to, why can't he stay here and take care of that to try to end the war?
He's gone to a private island to watch his son get married or some in the Caribbean, wherever they're going. And it is not America.
So the security issues you have to deal with as well. And then they'll complain. Do you know how many trips he took and how much money we had to pay for security for him?
So he's absolutely right. If he doesn't go, he's a bad person. And if he goes, he's a bad person. And I think that Don Jr. understands that.
Hopefully. In other news, though, Don Jr.'s ex-wife, Vanessa, they're still very close, has breast cancer. She made that announcement.
So a lot going on with the Trump family.
So hopefully. It'll all work out and hopefully they will have a good marriage or listening to the Brian Kilmey Show. From high atop Fox News headquarters in New York City. Always seeking solutions, never sowing division. It's Brian Kilmead.
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He's the author of Therapy Nation: How America Got Hooked on Therapy and Why It's Left Us More Anxious and Divided. You can find him on X at Jonathan Alpert with a T. Jonathan, thank you so much for joining me. Mary, thanks so much for having me. I appreciate it.
This is great.
So, because I will tell you, so I'm a big fan of therapy. I think everybody needs it because everybody's messed up in their own little way. We all got our baggage, right? And then when we have problems later in life, we can't figure out why.
So, I think everybody needs a little bit of therapy. But as you point out, you point out something that I didn't realize. Like, we have had so much therapy as a nation that people now talk like they're therapists all the time. People will psychoanalyze you on X based from eight words you put together in a sentence. And I personally blame Dr.
Phyll and Oprah for this phenomenon. But why does everyone now think? Are we not all running around like little mini psychotherapists? I know, isn't it annoying when people say my therapist says? I feel like those are the most annoying words anyone can utter.
But yeah, Dr. Phil and Oprah certainly brought this into modern culture, but that seems like a long time ago at this point. And now we have therapists who I believe are putting this nonsense out there. They're really quick to diagnose people. They're pathologizing ordinary life experiences.
So let's say you had a bad day at work or a fight with your boyfriend. Suddenly that becomes pathologic. Bad day or two. Oh, you must be depressed. Boyfriend's acting like a jerk.
Well, he must be a narcissist. Girlfriend's acting a little strange, she must be borderline.
So, therapists are very quick to label people and they're putting this out there and then enter into the mix social media. You have these so-called influencers who are putting out checklists, you know, five things to look for to know if you have ADHD or you're depressed. And people are very, very quick to accept that and then self diagnose. And we have therapy culture that's just everywhere, and that's part of why I named the book Therapy Nation. It's so interesting because I I I did not put two and two together until I started reading about your book and your theory, and it just suddenly all clicked and made so much sense to me.
And I just thought people You know, the left was, you know, they're a little wacky, so I just thought that they were the ones who were running around doing this, but it's not. But we hear buzzwords now, like my truth. Ma, well, my truth. And I'm sitting here thinking to myself, there's no such thing as your truth. The truth is the truth.
And I think this all goes back to therapy. And we. I think a part of it is a combination of, like I said, Dr. Phil and Oprah, and we put it on TV, and everybody, you know, parades their illness, you know, mental illnesses on TV, and it makes them a star, and they get affirmation for it. We started to normalize all this stuff and made it normal to just put.
Put it out there. And I think we've kind of been. It's almost like people wear this as a badge of honor. I would argue that we should be striving for health and wellness and good, sound mental health, not being proud of our mental illness, whether that's depression or anxiety or more severe disorders. And just to be clear, there are a lot of very good therapists out there, and it is a good thing that there's more awareness of mental health and less of a stigma.
And maybe we do have Oprah to thank for that, and that's a good thing. But that doesn't mean that we should be celebrating our mental health, or I'm sorry, our mental health and illnesses. We should try to be healthier and optimize that and not wear this like a badge of honor and run around with a million different diagnoses. I've heard of patients who come into me and they talk about their prior therapy where they've become so expert at knowing everything that's wrong with them, going back to their childhood, their diaper days. They can name every issue that they were ever presented with and every problem that their parents may have caused.
And they go to therapy week after week after week, and they can rehearse this stuff so easily, but they're stuck. They're not any healthier, they're not happier, they're not any more fulfilled in their lives. Yet they've been to therapy for decades, and it's a complete, utter, colossal waste of money if you're not actually improving.
So I think there's a lot of things as I started to think more about this, because you totally took me down a rabbit hole last night, and I hope you're happy. I think that I see a lot of things co- Coalescing here, colliding, coalescing, whatever the word is I'm looking for, because I'm old, is that you know. We have also have a younger generation that had no Obstacles in their life. They don't know how to deal with any kind of adversity.
So they feel that their lives are the worst, and everything is about them. There's a lot of central character, main character things going on out there. And with this idea of like, we incentivize. Illness both mentally and physically.
So, if your kid has ADD or ADHD or whatever it happens to be, that kid gets more time to take tests. That kid gets all special things. And your kid is special. And the kid feels special. And everybody wants in on the game, it seems, because everybody has the look-at-me syndrome, right?
I think. Everybody's got this look-at-me thing, which is why we see people screaming and yelling in parking lots and Walmart, and somebody's got a camera filming them, and they lose their minds. There's no self-control anymore with all of this therapy. Nobody has any self-control, and it just doesn't seem to make sense. Yeah, no, you're absolutely right.
And one of the original titles that we played around with for this book was It's Not All About You. And that really spoke to just the massive self-absorption and the accommodation culture that I think you're referring to, where people get a pass, they get notes from their therapists for everything. If you need extended time on your test, if you're feeling blue that day, you can stay out of work.
So we've really created, and my profession is largely responsible for this, creating this fragility in our society. And there are such things as bad days and even bad weeks, and that doesn't mean that you're depressed, and that doesn't necessarily mean that you need to have a mental health day either. This, having a bad day and having some mishaps in life, That's how we build character and strength, and how we learn and grow as a person. But if we're constantly being accommodated and patted on the back and made to feel special and never confront it, we're going to stay stuck and we're not going to grow individually and as a society. And that's a real concern of mine as a mental health practitioner.
Yeah, no, absolutely. And good for you for being able to call out your own profession and say, wait a minute, I think we have a problem here. We're going to take a quick break on the other side. I want to talk to you about that and how we turn that around because you've got an entire generation now that, you know, as you said, can go to the doctor. And my husband's a physician and he says these people, I don't have anyone under 45 who comes in who is not depressed or has anxiety.
Like they all got to, they're all depressed and anxious. And most of them don't have a diagnosis.
So we'll talk about that coming back. And also, I want to talk to you about TDS as well. I am so into this. Like I said, you took me down such a rabbit hole last night. Our guest is Jonathan Alpert.
He's a therapist and the author of Therapy Nation. Follow him on X at Jonathan Alpert. More coming up on the Brian Killmeat Show. It's Brian Kilmade. Uh yeah.
The talk show that's getting you talking. You're with Brian Kilmead. Mary Walter for Brian Killmead. Our guest is Jonathan Alpert. He's a therapist and the author of Therapy Nation and how maybe a little bit too much therapy has left us very divided and very anxious and very depressed and having a lot of problems, or at least we think we have a lot of problems.
Jonathan, we were talking before the break about how you look at your own industry and you say, I think we kind of did this to ourselves. We're the people who created this problem. If so, how do you pull it back? Yeah, that's a really good question. And some people may argue that it's a business.
Issue where if you get people better and graduate from therapy, then you lose business. And that may be true, but at the same time, the goal should be to help the person and get them better and then rely on word of mouth to get new people. I'm not so sure therapists are fully consciously doing that. I think they just think therapy should be a lifelong activity. For some people, it's become just that.
It's become almost like a lifestyle where they go in week after week, vent, get stuff off their chest, and it feels good in the moment, and then they do it all over again in six or seven days.
So there's a big difference between feeling good and actually getting better. And I talked about this in a 2012 New York Times op-ed piece that I wrote called In Therapy Forever, Enough Already. And I talked about how. People do just that. They go in, they vent, they get things off their chest, and they feel good, but then they don't really learn how to actually address their issues and move on from them.
And people are stuck in therapy. And I think if we can get back to a place where we establish very clear and concrete goals from day one and then come up with a strategy to reach them, that might be a good start to lifelong therapy. I'm sorry, I didn't mean to interrupt you. I think it's incumbent upon the therapist to set those boundaries and say to somebody, okay, we're good. You don't need me anymore, because it's kind of like taking a whoobie away from a kid.
You know, like, you don't need the blankie anymore, honey. You can go out and conquer kindergarten all on your own. And to your point, though, it is a money issue. It is at that point because they don't want to lose that income. I got somebody on the hook.
For for life. Yeah, there is that consideration. And I think for some patients, establish some goals, work on getting better for a couple months or six months, eight months, whatever it is, and then maybe go back for a refresher session every couple months. And I have plenty of patients who do just that. They might check in with me once a quarter just to make sure everything's okay.
Or if something comes up in their life, they may see me for a few sessions. But to have this dependence on your therapist and feel like you need to consult them for every Issue in your life. I mean, I've even heard of people consulting their therapist when they don't know what type of gift they should get a friend or a loved one. To me, that's absolutely ridiculous. I've also heard of people running to the therapist because they get stressed out over a pimple.
I would argue this isn't good use of therapy. I would also argue it's a very expensive use of therapy as well. There's that too. When pimples usually go away on their own in a day or two. True.
Very true. I want to switch gears here, and I want to talk a little bit about TDS. And I want to go to Cut 19, Eric. I want to go to The View. Dun dun dun.
And just, this is just such an example of TDS, which I believe is real and alive and thriving. And this is Joy Behar on The View talking about Trump RX and Mark Cuban being involved in Trump RX and Mark Cuban, of course, being a never-Trumper. He was shilled for Kamala. Listen to Joy Behar. Even he came around.
Right. Well, listen to Joy Behar here. You lie down with dogs, you wake up with fleas. All right, McComb. I mean I I like Mark Cuban.
I've always liked him, but this is a mistake. And once Trump puts his name on prescriptions, we're all going to die, okay? He put his name on the Trump shuttle, the Trump vodka, the Trump University, the Trump Hotel, and my favorite, the casinos, that all went bankrupt. Do not go there. The drugs don't actually have his name.
They're existing drugs. He's involved with it.
So you heard you've heard Alyssa Farrow Griffin try to jump in there, go, well, the drugs don't have his name. They're existing drugs. And Behart didn't want to hear any facts. It doesn't matter. He's involved with it.
I can't have anything to do with it. Is TDS real?
Well, it's interesting because You know, Trump was also responsible for fast-tracking the vaccine for COVID during his first term. And I've long said that Trump could go on and cure cancer, and people would still find a reason to discredit him or to hate him. As far as TDS, I've made it very clear that it doesn't actually exist. We don't have a diagnosis in the DSM called TDS. But As a therapist, I've been very, very concerned about what I'm seeing in a lot of patients and what we see when we just look at news like we just looked at, that clip in the view, where people are obsessed with Trump, they're highly anxious with all matters related to Trump.
They've become fixated on Trump. They can't sleep at night because of Trump.
So, this looks a lot like other disorders that are actual disorders in the DSM.
So, I've made it a point to say it doesn't exist, but this is what I'm seeing. And we should be concerned. If you can't take a vacation because you're so upset that Trump is in office, you've got some serious problems. And I've seen that with people. Or if you're hoping.
In wishing Trump dead because you don't like his policy or even like him as a person, that's a problem. Or if you're disappointed that the shooter didn't have better aim in Butler, you've got a serious, profound mental health problem. And this is what I'm really concerned about. Yeah, now we I know that um HHS Secretary R. F.
K. Jr. was on with Adam Carolla, and he said that he does believe that TDS is real, and he says he his staff is looking into actually developing an ICD code To make it a legit syndrome. Because to your point, these people are it's Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump. There's videos of people in California saying they're not going to vote for Spencer Pratt because he's a Republican and they hate Trump.
Do you think that's the right thing?
Well, I would be happy to speak to RFK Jr. about this and provide my experience working with countless patients. And I do think there is something to it, and we do need to look into it. You have to wonder what happens once Trump is out of office in a few years. Will these people have TDS 2.0?
Will they just move on to Rubio or Vance or whoever the candidate is? I think to step back a bit, the left, some people on the left, They need a villain, they need someone to hate, they need someone to blame all their problems on. And we saw this play out with the Luigi Mangion nonsense, where this is grievance culture. People need someone to blame. And right now, it's Trump.
People will fixate on him and blame all their issues on Trump.
So I don't know what's going to happen. I think we could see maybe some sort of disorder that doesn't have the Trump name in it, but maybe a political preoccupation disorder. Yeah, would be something that the people yeah, Jonathan. I didn't mean to cut you short, but we gotta run. Uh, check out the book Therapy Nation, I'm telling you, it is fantastic.
Like I said, went down a total rabbit hole. Thank you so much for joining me here on the Brian Kilmead Show. He's so busy, he'll make your head spin. It's Brian Killmead. If there was one vaccine that you would Coward.
Would it be one that cured Trump derangement syndrome? One that you could really get behind. I mean, we're trying to Well I told my staff today that we need an ICD code for Trump Durangan syndrome because it is a real thing. Yes. You know, I I've uh You know, lots of fra I mean You know, this is a, I'm not trying to make it a sad story, but I've had many friends come up to me and just say, I can't be your friend anymore.
And I'm not feeling sorry for myself. I'm just saying it's a weird anthropological phenomenon. It should be studied. Yeah.
I agree. Maybe we get Fauci. Uh Hold on, he could just fund some of the gain of function and we could have the folks in the Wuhan lab just take a good look at the Trump derangement syndrome under a microscope, you know.
So that was Adam Carolla and Human Secretary Service, Health and Human Services Secretary R.F.K. Jr. So, you know, we were just speaking with Jonathan Albert. He's a therapist and the author of Therapy Nation, and we started talking about it. There is no official diagnosis, which is interesting because I was, as I said, my husband's a physician, and I was talking to him about this.
And he said, no, he goes, I think there's a code for this. It's diagnosable. And he looked, he goes, no, there is not. And I had thought a while ago that they had made one. And maybe it was just, you know, ha ha in jest.
But I want to know from you. 866-408-7669. 866-408-7669. Or tag me in a post on Mary Walter Radio. Do you know people who you swear suffer from TDS?
People like you heard with Joy Behar. Alyssa Farrah Griffin tried to jump in there and say to her, Well, no, these are drugs that already have names. This is, you know, he's not making the drugs. They don't have his name. They're existing drugs.
And Joy Behr said, well, whatever, whatever, he's involved in it. Like, they can't rationally think. And I have seen it. I have many friends who have cut ties with me. Because I support President Trump.
Now, did I cut ties with them because they supported Barack Obama? No. Or did I cut ties with anyone because they supported Joe Biden? No, I didn't. Or because they supported Kamala Harris?
No, I didn't. Because I'm not insane that way. I mean, granted, I got my own stuff going on. We all got a little something going on, but that's not it for me. To me, politics is my life.
It's a job.
So I just separated. And I have been able to say, you know, I think Bill Clinton did something good, or I thought Barack Obama did. If Joe Biden or Barack Obama, who was really in his third term, in my humble opinion, did something that I thought was good, like if he had closed the border, I would have said, that's great. And I would have given him credit because. I th I think there's, I'm not emotional.
That's what I'm trying to say. Trying to not be mean and dismissive, but they're incapable of turning off their emotions. You've seen, and it is mostly women, sorry, ladies, but it is mostly women. You see these women. who just can't Turn it off.
They have to scream and yell in the middle of a parking lot. They're screaming and yelling. And there was a piece in the Wall Street Journal a little while ago by someone who works at Fox News named Matthew Hennessy. And he said, Two nice ladies who kind of look like, you know, they're probably, he goes, I imagine them to be retired teachers in New York City to see the lights. They both had gray hair, cut short, jeans, and sneakers.
One had a fanny pack. Two men who kind of looked like their husbands were trailing behind them by a couple of steps and they were heading north. And of course, passing Fox, the two women flip the bird at Fox, like at the building. Really? At the building.
And It's there's this a problem, I think, but it's with women. It is with women. But I want to know if you think that it's to the point, and I say it jokingly, but I'm dead serious, where TDS needs to be made a diagnosable code and it needs to be studied and treated. It needs to be treated. I don't know, considering therapists are usually pretty liberal.
Obviously, the last one was not. And a lot of therapists can't put their own. Personal feelings aside, even though they're supposed to, I don't know how far we would get with that. And this, Matthew says here, he goes, You know, I've gotten angry about things I see on TV, and I would prefer never to get to a place where I'm just throwing up the bird at a building. I w I just Okay.
I mean, am I going to go to the Barack Obama Presidential Museum? No, because it looks like a place where you would have a haunted house. It looks very scary, and it doesn't look like a place I want to go into. Um And he said there's something tacky and undignified in retirees surrendering to hysteria. Maybe some people would be proud of their grandparents for flipping off Fox News in broad daylight on a public street.
He said, I would be embarrassed, not for myself, but for them. And I agree with this. You got two separate problems. You got the young kids who live in therapy and wear their mental illness like a badge. And then you've got these older women who I suspect were hippies back in the 60s, like Bernie Sanders, and they.
They just never really lost that. And now, at their age, maybe they just don't care. And so they just parade their freak show. They were doing it in the 60s. It kind of settled down, had families started acting normal.
And now that they're retired, they're doing it again.
So should it be diagnosable? Do you think it is legit? 866-4087-669, or reach out to me on X. Tag me in a post on X at Mary Walter Radio. Let's go to Jacksonville and kick it off with Marianne.
Marianne, welcome. You're on the Brian Killmead Show. Hello. How are you? I'm doing good.
So what do you think? Diagnosable? Oh, absolutely. I'm a registered nurse. I am from right where you are.
broadcasting right now. Most of my family doesn't speak to me. If they you just sorta don't um You don't bring if they bring it up, I change the subject. 'Cause it's not worth the confrontation. Right.
And wh white water. But the doctor j I don't know if he was the doctor, but the gentleman just said Do you think this is going to end with Trump? Oh, no, no, no, no. Advance comes in, Aruvio comes in. It's just going to keep right on going.
So you must I don't know if you can call it T D S, but There must be something that you can put some initials on and throw it in the code book. You're right. And it's interesting. You said something right there that I thought was really interesting because I had a similar conversation with a friend of mine out in Washington State. And she had some friends over, and they live in a very rural part of the state.
And most people are conservative there. But they do have, of course, the people who flee the cities and into the country and, of course, bring all of their weird ideas with them and try to inflict them on everybody around them because we stay silent, right? When they feel very comfortable screaming and yelling and putting all of their emotions on display. And in return, we stay silent because we don't want to aggravate the situation. To me, it's like being around someone who's dangerous and has, you know, a weapon.
And you're like, oh, I'm going to just try not to be seen and I'm not going to aggravate the crazy person. And because of that, they can say whatever they want and we can't. And we, because we self-censor. And I don't know if that's the best thing. I I totally agree with that because I, okay, I'm a Jersey girl, so you fight our own fights, right?
Yeah.
So I still tend to be very vocal. But you do pick and choose They're so locked into their ideas.
Okay.
that you know you're spinning your wheels.
So you have to pick You'll have to pick the site that Maybe you can get a point across, but most of the time, they're just: I have a real good friend whose husband is a three-star general. And she hates him. She hates Trump. She hates him. She puts the most vile things.
On Instagram. And I'm like, I don't even go back anymore. Cause I'm like, okay, that's. Fine that you feel like that, but knowing What's going on? And to do that, I just think is.
I mean, like you said, you don't like Obama, you didn't like Biden, but you didn't trash him, you didn't throw your friends under the bus. You know, they just need to get a grip, and they can't. That's the bottom line. They can't. Yeah, they really can't.
I think they're damaged forever. To your point, they're never going to get over this. Marian, thank you so much for joining me. Do appreciate it. More of your calls coming up.
Robert and Sharon and Tony and Joanne, I will get to everybody 866-40-87669. Do you agree with HHS Secretary RFK Jr. that we need a diagnosable code for TDS because it is legit? Not making fun of it, but because it is legit. I'll take your calls coming up on the Brian Kilmead show.
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So, talking about an exchange between Adam Carolla and RFK Jr., and Adam Carolla brought up Trump Derangement Syndrome and said, you know. I think it's diagnosable. Do you want to see an ICD code, which is what they an official code that doctors put down when they diagnose you with something they put in the ICD code? And would you would you Go for that. And he said, actually, I've been talking to my staff about it because I do think it's real and I do think it needs to be studied.
And I don't say any of this to be derogatory because I do think that it is. It definitely is real. And I don't know if it's like, I don't know if there was something in all of the booster shots from COVID. Who knows? I don't know.
But the people who tend to be like boosted, boosted, boosted, I know people who are still getting COVID boosters.
Okay.
And they're out there.
So maybe that was like a weird government experiment with the boosters 'cause they knew the group of people that would go for it. I don't know. Probably not, but you got to figure out what the hell happened. Is this like a mass psychosis like the Salem witch trials? Like, because they hang out, they all hang out together because they unfriend and they cut off anyone who disagrees with them.
So they live in an echo chamber. A lot of people do, but they live in an echo chamber where the rhetoric is just ratched up, ratched up. And now we're flipping the bird at. Buildings and they will assault you. They think it's perfectly okay to assault you if you have a Trump hat on or because if you have a sign on your lawn for a candidate they don't like, they think it's totally fine to destroy it and steal it and rip it down.
And these are normally sane people. And a lot of them are your grandparents, that generation. They were like the aging hippies, and something happened, and they are back to hate Ashbury all of a sudden. Let's go to Kim in Indiana. Kim, you're on the Brian Kilmead show.
Hi. Hi, thanks for taking my call. Sure.
I just wanted to comment on the Trump derangement syndrome, and I'm a Woman, but absolutely Republican registered, voted for Trump, et cetera. But I do want to make the comment that I get a little concerned when we're lumping things such as, quote, Trump derangement syndrome, which It's kind of a thing.
However, lumping it in with mental health issues. counseling I just take concern with that. Mental health is a true situation. I'm thankful from a personal family situation that People don't have to hide in the corner. Uh yeah.
Uh receive therapy. And I just think there needs to be a little more thought put into that in terms of lumping general mental health issues and concerns and treatments. what we're seeing in the political arena.
Well, let me ask you let me ask you, should we not let me by getting an ICD code, it can be legitimately studied.
So wouldn't we want to legitimately study it to find out if it really is a mental health issue and then treat it? Because they're not happy people. They're very not happy people. No, and I hear what you're saying. And I am from a health care professional.
I think this is situational. I think people just don't know what to do with someone who has taken the political arena by such a storm, changing things, mixing up things. And when they don't agree, I think they're just reacting. Possibly some, many of these people have other mental health issues. Depression, anxiety, I'm not sure.
I think that's what needs to be studied, not so much localizing it into Trump derangement syndrome.
Okay, I think. And that's fine. That's fine. You're more than welcome to disagree. I just think when a grown adult cannot control their emotions over somebody making a political decision, that you've got big issues.
There's something there. When you feel a need that it's perfectly okay to assault someone because they have a different political view than you, there's something wrong. When you think that all three assassination attempts on the president were staged for political gain, I think your grasp on reality might be a little tenuous. And that needs to be studied. And if the only part of your life in which that is active is regarding Trump, then I think that probably there's something going on there, and I would like to see it studied.
But I understand what you're saying, but the idea of, like, well, you know, they can't handle it. I think we. We excuse away a lot of stuff and then we enable it.
So I'm just curious because it's not going to stop with Trump. It's going to go advanced with Rubio. If a Republican, whichever Republican gets in from here to the day I die, the reaction is going to be the same. And I think we need to nip it in the bud early. All right, Kim, thank you so much.
I do appreciate it. Have a great weekend. Robert in Yonkers, you're on the Brian Killmead Show. Hello, Robert. Hi.
So I have a little bit of a twist in my view about this thing. Giving attention to Trump derangement syndrome.
Okay.
Encourages this thing to increase. Whatever you give your attention to, Gross. There's too much attention to these people, and they want this attention. They want the attention. There are people at the top.
that are encouraging this behavior. Those are the people Yeah. TDS, if you would say that it exists, begins with a conversation. And the conversation became came out of leaders' mouths to encourage people to become afraid. Lennon, had an had a term for these people.
He called them useful, idiots. Hermann Göring, the supreme commander of the Air Force under Adolf Hitler, was asked at the Nuremberg trials. How did you get the German people to go along with this? And Hermann Goering said, It was easy. It's human nature.
You get people to be afraid enough. And they'll do anything. In the Chicken Little cartoon that was created by Walt Disney, the full-length one. in nineteen forty three, which is a warning to the world about Adolf Hitler. They had chick they had all these characters that you see if you would look at the cartoon, it's played out every scenario today.
And the people that are have what's called derangement syndrome syndrome are the chickens in the coop that all they do is talk to each other and they're full of fear. Chicken Little got them afraid because he was a useful idiot, and then he got all the little chickens to be afraid. Yeah, no, you're absolutely right. Tony, I appreciate you joining me. Excuse me, Robert.
I appreciate you joining me. Yeah, that is part of it. And I have had people come up to me, and we have not my family, there's other people in the family who I'm they're pretty smart intellectually, but there is a certain undercurrent of TDS, but they're not like crazy TDS, but there's an undercurrent that we just don't talk politics, and that's okay. That's how you handle it. We just don't address the subject, we just don't do it.
But I've had people tell me, I, you know, why do you support him? And when I try to tell them, they go off on a tangent and you can't have a conversation. When you, if someone is incapable of having a conversation, We gotta find out why.
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I want to talk to you about TDS, Trump Derangement Syndrome, and if it is real or not. Do you think it is real? And Adam Carolla and RFK Jr. had an exchange in which Adam Carolla suggested to RFK Jr. that maybe we need a vaccine for TDS.
And He said, RFK Jr. said that I told my staff today that we need an ICD code for Trump derangement syndrome because it's a real thing and it should be studied. And I will tell you. Trump forty five? I didn't think it was a real thing.
Now, I'm like, oh, heck, this is real because I've watched it progress. I've watched it go from I'm not going to be friends with you and being cut out of people's lives because of it. And I thought, oh, well, whatever. It's just a small thing. But it didn't abate during the Biden years, right?
It didn't abate. And it only got worse and they only became more violent. It's escalating. And you never know when someone's just going to pop off because you look like a Trump voter or you have on a hat or you have a shirt that says freedom. The white shirt that says freedom that Charlie was wearing when he was assassinated.
I have one. I'm very careful about where I wear that shirt. It just says freedom. But I am well aware that it could get me physically attacked by someone who is out of their ever-love and mind or just cannot control their emotions. And in other parts of their life, they're perfectly sane.
So I do think that it is real. I do think we need a code so we can study it and figure out how to treat these people because deep down inside, they're miserable. Nothing in their world. Is good. They are outraged at everything.
Anything that challenges their worldview, they can't control their reactions to, and it's a very sad place to live. Speaking of sad places, the view? They were having a conversation about the whole Trump RX thing and Mark Cuban being there. And I had to do a double take. I'm watching.
I'm like, Tamar Kiban? Mark Cuban can't stand Donald Trump. And instead of looking at, instead of watching this, people with TDS watching this going, wait, Mark Cuban supported Kamal Harris and can't handle Donald Trump, can't stand him, but Mark Cuban goes on and says, I think this is a really good thing that's being done here, so I want to partner with this. And Mark Cuban's going to make money off of it, he's not dumb. Instead of looking at that and saying, oh, well, maybe this is a good thing.
Now they hate Mark Cuban.
Now they're going to cancel Mark Cuban, and he's just as bad as Donald Trump now. That's the way they think.
So, Joy Behar was talking about it and was saying how it's terrible, that it's going to, we're going to get prescriptions with Trump's name on it. And Alyssa Farrag Griffin jumped in and said, well, the drugs don't really have his name. They're just existing drugs, which is what it is. And Behar's like, whatever. She can't because she can't handle it.
So, here's a continuation of that conversation with Alyssa Farragriffin pushing back on Joy Behar because Joy Behar said, Well, whatever if he's involved with it.
So, listen to Alyssa. Alyssa, actually, and she's not a Trumper, but at least she's trying to steer this to some sanity. No, I literally cracked it. A medication that I had to take for IVF is a tenth of the price on Trump RX. I don't, whatever, it's tacky that his name is on it.
Mark Cuban has dedicated his life to bringing down prescription drug costs. The average family, one-third of Americans, cut back on essential foods and utilities to be able to cover their prescription drug costs. You're not going to convince me that just because Trump's involved, we should be like, screw it, don't bring down prescription drugs. He's going to make a profit out of it. Correct.
Don't take it. I completely agree with you. No, Americans agree with it. No. He is a failed businessman.
And if you heard what he said, he said, we both want to make people wealthy. He didn't say so.
So he should pay 10 times more. He said wealthy education. Listen to me that there's something in it for him. This is not a well-intentioned president.
Sonny Hostin is so far gone, so far gone, she should be the first one put under the microscope. He's not making money off of it. It's a pass-through. It is literally a website. We've been there, we've looked at it.
It is literally a website where you can go and look for discounts from manufacturers. Remember, Trump struck the deals with those pharmaceutical companies to offer prices at most favored nation rates. It is a pass-through to other sites like Mark Cuban's, where they get a discount on drugs. And he shows you, Mark Cuban's site shows you the price of the drug, how much they're going to make on it, and what the cost is. It's totally transparent.
Trump doesn't make a dime on it, but they can't believe that Donald Trump would actually do something that would benefit people because they are so convinced that he's an evil person, he's a horrible person, that they just brains cannot engage critically. And Sonny Hostin or Hostin is a lawyer. Like, Have we lowered the standards? Because I'm beginning to think we have.
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Do you think it's real? And does it need to be studied? Do you need an ICD code to make an official diagnosis where we can now study? And treat it. And I don't mean it to be funny.
'Cause I am dead serious. Let's go to the People's Socialist Republic of New Jersey in Clifton. Tony, welcome. You're on the Brian Kilmead Show. Hi.
Hi, Mary. Thank you for taking my call. Sure.
that it's a very real thing. And I think Just as we're looking at what's going on with children online to see how they were being they were predi they were predators after our children online, I think we need to look at Because children are minors and we need to protect them. I think when you have a government like the Democrat Party who has opened up its borders and no vetting, let everybody come in, I think this is driven, I'll just go back a minute to the COVID time. I think that was the incubation period where the laws were getting changed for voting, the Democrats were getting ready to just go into this full-scale thing that's happening now, and it's hitting. First of all, it affects we have police that are getting killed.
We have federal agents getting killed. We have citizens getting killed.
So I believe it's a very real thing. And I think it does need to be addressed because the crime that's gone up and we are now on a high alert because of the war and other issues. And Mary, we've had this huge influx A lot of uh Islamic people coming in over the years.
So we really need to look at We are not in a safe environment. Our government needs to protect us. And the Democratic Party is Working this Trump derangement syndrome, like I said, started during COVID when we were isolated, worked through the school systems for years, but it really, the young people were affected.
So it's a very real thing because we're getting killed, we're getting hurt, our young people are losing their lives. And I think for people who who make it what is it, make it less of what it is. it means that our life, our country, isn't Is able to go through all these phases because that's just life.
Well, our young people don't feel that way. They feel very hurt by what's been happening. And anyone who has a dead family member sees it as a very serious thing.
So I think it needs to be quantified because it is politically driven through the social network and through our own Democratic political congressmen and senators, et cetera. Yeah, oh, absolutely. They are definitely culpable with their words and the things that they say, and they know exactly what they're doing. But they wash their hands of it, and they go, well, it wasn't us. We didn't say anything.
We really need to cut down on the rhetoric. We're like, well, you're part of the problem, Tony. Thank you for joining me.
Have a good weekend. Yeah, when you sit there and call people Nazis, you are telling people, because Nazis are not good, right?
So you're telling these unhinged, mentally susceptible people, well, if you see someone with a Trump hat on, they support a Nazi. Oh, you support Hitler, you're a Nazi, and I get to punch you. And that's what's happening. We're finding more and more people. Look at the cult of death on the left.
Where If you don't like someone like you cheer Luigi Mangioni because you don't like health care. CEOs So that was okay. That's fine because I don't like that person. We're starting to quantify. These things and saying, oh, well, it's okay.
We're starting to justify them. And a large number of people, more and more and more, think it's okay. Brian Thompson's family doesn't matter at all. Because he was a healthcare CEO. And that's very sick and a very, very dangerous place to go.
Again, this is why I think we need to do this. And it's not just young people, it's the elderly too. Wall Street Journal had a piece called Get a Grip on Your Grandparents, written by Matthew Hennessy, who works at Fox. He said, I watch them all the time in front of the building. There's a small group of mostly elderly people who gather in the plaza in front of News Corp building every Tuesday in the afternoon because they had nothing else to do.
They honkhorns, they stomp their feet, they chant slogans, they put on a play. It's all performance. We're all performative.
Sometimes they chalk the sidewalk, it's very predictable, protest by appointment, and then they walk away and tell each other what a great job they did. It's very performative. I don't have time to be performed. Like, I maybe, because I'm not that generation and I'm not the young generation, I'm there in the middle, like I'm the Gen X right then and there. And we're like, I know that no one cares about what I have to think because my parents told me that on a daily basis.
My parents are like, I don't care about your feelings. Nobody was worried about our feelings. And so I wasn't old enough to be a hippie, and yet I'm not young enough to believe that people actually care about my feelings.
So, maybe that's why I'm so turned off by it all. Sharon in Texas, you're on the Brian Kilmead show. Hello, Sharon. Hi, Mary. I do agree with what the previous poller said, and it is responsibility of government to protect the people.
And our government, because of the Democrat Party machine, is not protecting us, but on a personal level. I don't believe that we need another diagnosis of another code for another diagnosis of another problem because I think too much responsibility for dealing with these problems has been tossed to the psychiatric Profession. I think it's just way too blown up. And when I I think your your guest who wrote the book about What's the name? I wrote it down.
The Therapy Nation. Therapy Nation. Yeah.
He was on Target. Um He said He said people are looking for someone else to blame their problems on.
Well, on a personal level, that's if you want to go down to personal level, which is really what this is, I have neighbors who will not talk to me because if I mention anything political, And they'll they'll immediately um assign it over to Trump and then blame Trump and then go into a rant and they look they have looks on their faces like they want to hit me. I mean, this this is definitely derangement, but it's on a personal level the way I handle things, these people have such a big baggage full of their own problems, and they haven't dealt with their own problems, so they want to transfer those uh the blame. Point the finger, throw their own blame. This is this is aj all back to the Garden of Eden. when um the first sin developed.
And remember? Yeah, Adam Adam threw Eve under the bus. No, the man blamed the woman, this woman that you gave me, and then the woman blamed the serpent.
Well, the blame game's been going on forever and ever, ever since. And so.
So, you know, if we we all need to learn to take re accountability for our own, and the answer is confession. We confess. And then we move forward depending on God to direct us.
Well, but share, we're kind of getting off the track here. It's about ICD codes. And thank you so much for joining me. Have a great weekend. Just so you know, an ICD code is a standardized code, and they use it to classify and code medical diagnoses and conditions.
And what it does is part of the international classification of diseases symptoms.
So this allows a standardization, a standardization of symptoms, etc., health information management. It helps with epidemiology and research to track disease prevalence, outbreaks, that kind of thing.
So it can be very, very useful when it comes to research. And I personally think that that's important. All right, we'll get more of your calls coming up, so don't go anywhere. 866-40-87669. Don't forget, you can also tag me in a post on X at Mary Walter Radio.
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We're going to finish this up here, real quickly, with a couple more calls, and then we're going to move on and we're going to talk about fraud. We have to talk about fraud. This is our my money, your money. We need to talk about it. Claude in Oklahoma, you're on the Brian Kilmude show talking about TDS.
Should it be a diagnosis, an actual diagnosis? Welcome to the show.
Well, thank you for taking my call. And I was disregarding a remark that George Behart made earlier in Trump's Uh administration in his first uh presidency. TJ, I hope. the economy goes in a tank. as it means getting rid of crop.
That's what you said. And then on one occasion, see and then on occasion when about the Uh R X Uh for her to make that statement. Were people getting A discount. She would weather She's complaining about not I'm sure she has no problem with paying for medic medicine. I'm pretty sure she can afford a doctor.
For her to be so tough is that she'd rather the world suffer than not get help because she hates Trump. And then I was in Walmart when they went to COVID and And I thought this woman, you know, liked Trump and she said she hated Trump because Trump said everybody should go to work. and not stay away from uh that job because her uncle died. And I'm saying. What did Trump have to do with that?
He just told people they need to get back to work. And she said, I yeah, I don't like my uncle died of COVID. He didn't even he didn't he's not responsible for COVID. He's not responsible. But anyway, that was this example that I just.
wanted, you know, to say with I believe it needs to be studied. Yeah, I think so. I think people would be happier. I just, I kind of feel badly for these people, especially the older ones who are supposed to be enjoying retirement and, you know, finally kicking back. You worked so hard for most of your life.
You sit back, kick back, and finally enjoy, and they can't. They're just so consumed with hatred. It has to be a very, very horrible place to be. Claude, have a great weekend. Thank you for joining me.
Shawnee in New York City, listening on WABC. Welcome to the Brian Kill Me Cho. I got about a minute and a half here. I'll make it fast. Thank you so much.
I heard that hatred corrodes the vessel that contains it. And once you can convince people of absurdities, you can get them to commit atrocities. It seems very relevant. And I watched a friend's health go completely down the tubes, starting with her yelling and screaming about Trump as I was eating pasta. And it was so loony, this was some years ago, I looked up and I said, why, so-and-so, you have to adjust your meds.
Meanwhile, you can't believe how her health suffered. I believe it. I believe it. I think you're right. I think when you are consumed with so much hatred, it just eats at you.
You're never happy. And I see a lot of people, it's sad. I have seen people that I used to be friends with who don't want to know me anymore because I supported Trump and he's this and he's that and he's a racist and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And there was no talking to them. And you're right.
I have just seen them spiral downward mentally and physically follows it. I'm convinced that that happens. And it's sad. And you can't talk to them and you can't help them. And so maybe this is why we do need to make this an ICD code.
Shawnee, thank you so much for joining me. I do appreciate you bringing that up because I think she's right. All right, coming up, let's talk about fraud, the amount of money and where it has gone. It's staggering. A talk show that's real.
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Hey, welcome back to the Brian Committee Show. I'm Mary Walter in for Brian. 866-408-7669 is my number. Let's talk fraud, shall we? You can also.
Tag me in a post on X if you would like to comment, and I will try to get to your tags, to your posts as much as I possibly can. I just want to wrap up from the last hour, a couple of tags here. I want to say, okay, Senior Moment says, speaking of therapy, it's thank you for joining us to guests, not joining me.
Sorry. You have staff in an audience without whom you wouldn't be on the air. Include them and give them credit as to who the guest is joining. It's not all about you.
So, thank you for the free therapy online. I just had to share that with you because it goes to our guest's point previously, Jonathan Albert, that everybody talks therapy now. Everybody speaks in therapy terms.
So, I wanted to share that with you. I thought that was pretty funny. Just proving the point of our previous guest. Let's talk about fraud. Speaking of therapy and other mental and other services, healthcare services, yesterday was a big day on the fraud front.
You saw the Assistant Attorney General Colin McDonald. You saw Dr. Oz and others talking about fraud. And J.D. Vance, the vice president, is in charge of this fraud investigation, which is huge.
And I have to give them credit. They are making very, very sincere attempts. And I think they're making some good strides in trying to target and unravel these fraud schemes because they know that President Trump has a limited amount of time. And if they don't hold the House and the Senate at the midterms, that a lot of this is going to come to a screeching halt because, for some weird reason, Democrats don't want to investigate fraud. Huh.
I wonder why. Why wouldn't Democrats want to investigate fraud? 'Cause it's their money too. It's almost as if that money was being funneled through NGOs and then going back into their pockets. But come on, only a cynic would say that.
Uh-huh.
So let's start out here with the Assistant Attorney General, Colin McDonald. And he is talking about more people being charged, of course, in Minnesota. This is just the epicenter of the fraud because of Nick Shirley and his sidekick, David, there. And David's really the one who started it, but he is not really super public.
So Nick Shirley's become the face of it. Started in Minnesota, but it is so much more than the Feeding Our Futures fraud scheme. And we'll go into that because Amy Buck, the ringleader of that, was finally sentenced yesterday. But this is more fraud that they have found. 15 people, listen, how much money?
Here we go. Today, we are announcing criminal charges against 15 defendants in Minnesota for fraud schemes that targeted over $90 million in taxpayer dollars. Let me be clear. up front about something. This is not the end of our work in Minnesota.
This is not The end of the beginning of our work in Minnesota. This is the beginning. Of our work in Minnesota. The fraud here in Minnesota is shocking. Our cases today.
involves seven different state-managed Medicaid programs that have been systematically pilfered by fraudsters who treated Minnesota-run programs as their personal piggy bank. Seven state-managed Medicaid programs. Seven. And one of the defendants, who's that guy that we all saw, one of the defendants, Mohammed Omar, was the one who jumped off of the fourth-story balcony. Clearly, he hurt himself because they showed the video and he kind of like rolled down there.
It looked like he probably did some damage, probably had a broken ankle, and he was hopping around, but they did get him eventually.
So he definitely was desperate to get out of that. He is accused of scheming taxpayers out of more than $3.6 million by filing false Medicare claims while running a pair of home health companies in Minnesota from 2022 to 2025. Feds alleged that he used $150,000 of the fraudulently obtained funds to invest in real estate in Nairobi, Kenya. Because, you know, that's a hot spot. That's where people want to go.
Although, I guess if you're doing like the safari thing, maybe it's a. Airbnb, courtesy of your taxpayer dollars. We should get to stay there free. And $60,000 to lease. A Mercedes-Benz.
More of the fifteen people. Two more Shamso Ahmed Hassan and Hanan Mursal Yousuf. Allegedly operated an almost $47 million scheme that paid kickbacks to parents who brought their children to the bogus centers supposedly treating autism spectrum disorder. And this, we're just talking about ICD codes and stuff, autism spectrum disorders. And this shows how this can all get so expanded that suddenly everybody's got autism, right?
And all wait till I give you the numbers of how these programs exploded.
So I want to jump up to cut six because it's about the autism program. And this is, again, the Assistant Attorney General Colin McDonald, because one of the things that they took advantage of was the autism programs, and parents got kickbacks in order to bring the kids there who didn't have autism. Here's the assistant AJ. The same trends exist for other Minnesota-run taxpayer-funded programs. An autism program that cost the taxpayer $600,000 just six years ago skyrocketed to over $400 million.
And to be sure, That number is not driven by supply and demand. It is not driven by health care or charity. It is fraud. Just to say that, it went from 600,000 in 2018 to more than 400 million by 2025. My question is, and this is what they're going to be asking, and this is what they're hopefully going to get to the bottom to: is how did no one look at those numbers who was paying attention to their job, like not even being, you know, paying super attention, just like mildly cognizant, like breathing.
And you look at that and you go, huh.
Something's wrong here. How come we're spending so much money? The problem is, and this is the problem with the government running all of these programs. And I don't necessarily think this is the government's job to do this. Your kids got autism.
I don't think it's the government's job to necessarily solve that problem for you or provide special services. I just don't. Because of things like this. It's other people's money, they don't care. They don't care.
And why was no one, why was Keith Ellison not looking at this fraud?
Now, I want to go to cut seven here. This is Dr. Oz talking about what happens to these kids when they're diagnosed with autism and how. This is on their record forever. This is literally on their permanent record.
The one that everybody told you about, it's literally on there. Here's Dr. Oz. The 15 arrests today, debtting $90 million, is a very important symbol because it's a shot across the bow. And we're all going to say this in our different ways.
But I'm telling you, if you're a fraudster, do not walk away from this press conference. Run. Because we are coming after you. We have lots of weapons to be able to use in order to accomplish that. The kinds of reprehensible behavior that we've identified with individuals bribing parents to lie that their children have autism and will carry that diagnosis for the rest of their lives.
As a physician, that bothers me to my core. Not only are we selling our licenses as doctors when we allow this to happen, we're selling our souls, and there were doctors involved in some of these issues as well. It's a rampant failure of this program is addressable, but we've got to be able to deal with it from within. There's a whistleblower. Her first name is Faye.
She's on Capitol Hill today, testifying, I believe. But she's spoken to me about the fact that there was a general fear. within the health agency here are being called the racist and fear that you'll be politically inappropriate, politically incorrect, and that fear is what stifled much of the action that should have taken years ago and taken place in an effort to prevent why we're here today. Yeah, doctors, when doctors are involved in this, it gives an air of legitimacy to it. And I understand why, but at the same time, if you look at the numbers, someone should have questioned this somewhere along the line.
If you want to jump in talking about this fraud, and I'm sure it is everywhere, but I will say something, and you can disagree with me. I think a l lot of people Don't care because it's so big. And I'm like, yes, they care, but it's so big that it's really difficult to wrap your brain around. There's just so much fraud, and the numbers are so staggering. That everybody just goes, well, that's the government, they waste our money.
And don't realize that if you add it up, billions and billions and billions of dollars they're saying nine billion, they estimate, in Minnesota alone. Think of how much money would be back in your pocket. And I think if people could do that, There would be a lot of anger in this country, a hell of a lot more than we're seeing right now. We should all be screaming angry, like Donald Trump's president. You know, scream like a liberal that this is happening because this is your money.
You go to work and you're working hard every day, and these people are doing nothing but scamming your hard-earned money. And this, and I don't care, let the chips fall where they may. Whomever's involved in it, it has to be punished. There have to be consequences led for this, and I assume there will not be. I can't imagine that there's going to be.
But Keith Ellison, if he's complicit and walls, anyone who's complicit, but Keith Ellison got in front of Congress, and there are allegations that he lied, and that's perjury. But he's part of the protected class, so will he be punished? I don't know. But I think we need to get angry about this. As a country.
866-408-7669. I'll get to your calls and more of this on fraud. A lot was said yesterday. We'll get to it here on the Brian Kilmead show. Diving deep into today's top stories, it's Brian Kilmead.
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866-40-87669. Or you can tag me to post on X at Mary Walter Radio. John says, Hey, Mary Walter Radio, attacking fraud is a double-edged sword. Fraudsters do not belong to one political party. Rick Scott, who represented a hospital in Florida, was fined $1.7 billion for Medicare fraud.
Prosecute and educate, show no favorites. For example, Northeast cities protect specific voting blocks that are full of Medicaid fraud. Very true. Republicans will be accused of being racist, and as Democrats will avoid the blame. And the Rick Scott thing, remember, he was the CEO.
He was not one of the doctors who was, or the, or the, you know. The other people who w Provide services of misbilling for Medicaid fraud. And so I got to look into it more. But he was the head, and under his tenure as CEO, they led the investigation to find out who was responsible for it. And he said, look, it happened under my watch, and he resigned.
But he was never accused of being involved in any of it, and he was responsible for investigating it. And I think a hospital is different than a city or a state where We know that whistleblowers came forward and nothing was done. And I don't know how it came to Rick Scott's attention. I didn't go that deeply into it. But if a whistleblower came forward and they decided to investigate, well, then that was the proper thing to do.
And I'm not saying Republicans don't do it. I'm not saying that. But in that particular case, I think we, you know, let's look at them. Sure, I'm sure Republicans are involved in fraud somewhere along the line. Nobody's perfect.
And I, you know, absolute power corrupts, absolutely. Let's go one more. I want to go here. This is the Assistant Attorney General Colin McDonald. And this is what happens with these programs.
Believe it or not, they do actually sometimes run out of other people's money. And here's one such program: Cut Five. One of the programs has been completely shut down because there's no money left. It's all gone. That was Minnesota's state-run housing stabilization services program designed to help the homeless find and maintain housing.
It was estimated in 2020 that it would cost only about $2.5 million a year to fund this program, but it ended up costing almost 50 times that much, over $104 million, by 2024 due to fraud. And because of all the fraud, Minnesota had to shut the program down in 2025, and now these services no longer exist for these vulnerable homeless populations. Yeah.
Because that money's gone. Your tax dollars gonzoed. and nobody was payin' attention. It's sad, but to me, it's more than sad. I've moved on to the anger stage.
I'm in anger right now. I need somebody. I want to see high-ranking people who knew that this was going on in any state. Not just here, but this is where we're starting, but in any state. And to that point, they are expanding investigations across the country with more investigation teams.
So they are expanding these investigations. And I'm like, go, go, Republican state. I don't care. Find my tax dollars and stop this because I don't have a choice. I have to pay my taxes.
I have to subsidize these programs, even though I think most of them are total and utter waste of money. 866-4087669. Let's head to Diana in Arizona. You're on the Brian Kilmead Show. Diana, welcome.
Thank you. Go ahead.
Well, I um I was cheering with the gentleman that I spoke with that I was addressing your autism issue. I've raised an autistic grandson, and so I'm very aware of the challenges of raising an autistic child, and I did it with absolutely no government assistance. He did have his IEP at school and had some accommodations, and I advocated for him to make sure he was in as many mainline classes as humanly possible. Presently, he is 21 years old, has a job, has a home of his own, has a car of his own, does his laundry, does his cooking, and autistic people can be amazing.
So we'll start there. Second of all, I totally agree with what was stated about maybe some of the reasons that none of this was. There were no whistleblowers was because of prejudices and the fact that, yes, if you turn somebody in, it doesn't matter how inept at they are at their job, if you turn somebody in that is in a protected class, then they can scream discrimination and people aren't going to risk that. Exactly. And there were whistleblowers who came forward and they were told, you know, this is racist.
Some of them were fired, etc.
So that all needs to be looked into as well because that just says to me, when you fire a whistleblower or tell them that they're just racist for bringing this forward, somebody's protecting something. And I think when this all comes to light, should it all come to light, I hope it does, we're going to find that there were people who benefited from all this fraud, not just Somalians. It didn't just go overseas.
Some of it stayed here. And that's why, and thank you so much, Diana. And you know what? Bless you for doing what you did. That is truly love right there.
Raising your grandchild, especially if that child has some kind of disability. But Amy Bach from Feeding Our Futures received almost 42 years in prison. And I want to see more of that. I do. I want to see more.
Lisa on WABC in New York. I have one minute, so you got to make it really quick, please. I will. I just wanted to say, Mary, thank you for taking my call. I completely agree with you on this fraud.
I think it's gotten so egregious, so out of hand. It is so outrageous how no one is really suffering consequences. And I know we're talking about Minnesota, but I want to segue really quickly into California. And I want to know why Gavin Newsom has a right to shut down all these websites of supposal hospices. There are more hospices in LA County than in anywhere else in the country.
It's just not possible that that many people die from hospice. They could just pull death certificates that it wouldn't even equal that much. I feel like I'm so sick of my tax money not being wasted. It's just being completely stolen. I mean, they might as well be carrying guns and wearing ski masks.
That's my opinion. You know what? That's a great point, Lisa. You're right. And Gavin Newsom and all that.
And it's interesting. And thank you so much. Have a wonderful weekend. It's with Gavin Newsom, like he's just, but he's playing a part. He's playing a role.
This is part of the play that we are unwilling participants in, in my humble opinion. on a daily basis. You know. Uh anyway, a Mary Walter. Eric, Pete, Allison, all part of the team here.
I want to make sure I recognize, as I was told to do, you're listening to the Fry and Kill Meet Show.