"It’s on Life Support": Trump Rejects Iran’s "Piece of Garbage" Ceasefire Deal

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And President Trump yesterday doing what he loves to do. He loves talking to the press, he just loves it. You know, We forget what Joe Biden was like. And when Joe Biden was president, we kind of forgot what Trump was like in the sense that President Trump would talk to the press all the time. Every time he got the chance, President Trump wanted to talk to the press.

And he's very honest. He takes off comers unless he thinks your question is stupid, and now he will tell you so. Which I do like. I do enjoy that.

So he was speaking to the press yesterday, and of course, they don't stay on script, they just go off on anything. It could be a well, yesterday was about women's fertility and women's health and all stuff. And they went off on Iran, which part of me is glad that they did.

So yesterday. He was asked about, of course, the ceasefire. Like, well, what's going with Iran in the ceasefire? Because he got this deal he's got this proposal from Iran, which he did not like at all.

So he was asked about the ceasefire. And this is Jared Halpern asking him the question, and here is President Trump describing the state of the current ceasefire. What? For the time being, the ceasefire remains in place? Unbelievably weak.

I would say, I would call it the weakest. Right now? After reading the piece of garbage they sent us, I didn't even finish reading it. I said, I'm not going to waste my time reading it. I would say it's one of the weakest right now.

It's our life support. They understand. These are all medical people. Dr. Az, life support is not a good thing.

Do you agree? Very prognostic. I would say the ceasefire is on. massive life support where the doctor walks in and says Sir, your loved one has approximately a 1% chance. of living.

Okay. He can't just say it's all life supporting. As it goes through the hole, the doctor walks into the room. He loves to tell stories, and I know some people can't stand it. I'm here for it.

Sometimes I do wish he would not tell as many stories, but otherwise, I am here for it.

Now, All of that being said, ceasefires on life support. He did not like the deal that Iran sent back to him. And speaking of that, I want to jump ahead, Eric, to cut five because this is President Trump. President Trump did not like the deal from Iran, which is part of the reason why the ceasefire is on Life Sport, because Iran is like, no, Moss, we're not playing.

So here's General Jack Keene. discussing the the Iran's deal and why President Trump rejected it. The Iranians flagged to the United States, you know, that they were seriously interested in making a deal. And and but after four plus weeks, Thank God for President Trump. I mean, he's our ultimate backstop here because he's not going to take a lousy deal.

And just look at what the Iranians are proposing to us. to keep part of their Nuclear enterprise. And that obviously. is not acceptable. A two to maintain sovereignty Over the straits from a loose indefinitely.

And then the other three. Are all about, we know the regime is likely going to survive even if we return to combat operations, but we would want it to be so weakened that it's vulnerable to collapse. But if we make this deal, Three of the provisions that they're asking for are all about financing their recovery. Unfreeze the frozen assets, remove the sanctions, and we want reparations for the damage that's being done.

So certainly, President Trump has absolutely rejected that. Yeah, he is not President Obama. He's not going to send them pallets of cash under cover of darkness. That's not going to happen. You know, what's interesting is.

I think, and I am not an expert in this at all, which is why we're going to talk to Lieutenant Colonel Alan West coming up about this. But it seems to me, and I think a lot of people have said this, so I'm not the only one, and that they're just playing the waiting game that they played with every president up until now for the last, what, 57 years? They're just playing 47 years, that waiting game, right?

So. They just figure, well, we're just going to drag our feet, and every now and then we're going to lob a rocket over at Kuwait or UAE or Saudi or wherever. And we're just going to keep everybody standing off. And we're going to continue to do what we do. And that's how they're going to withstand this because they don't care about their people.

They don't care if their people starve. They don't care if their people die in. You know, bomb attacks or anything like that. They don't care. They will use their people as human shields.

It's all about preserving the regime. And they haven't quite figured out yet that President Trump is not the same as the politicians who have come before him. He's a businessman. He's like, no, we're making a deal. And they don't get that yet.

I truly believe that they haven't quite figured that out yet.

Now, Trump yesterday said that Iranian negotiators agreed just two days ago to relinquish the. Enriched uranium, which is almost weapons grade. And then, when he got the peace offering from them, that Jack Keene was just talking about, it was gone, it wasn't in there. They took it out. They're like, yeah, yeah, we'll agree.

And then they take it out. This is what they do to buy time because they figure it'll get them another negotiation. And that's like another week to do whatever they're doing. And he said, they did two days ago. You're going to have to take it.

We're going to go with them. But they changed their mind because they didn't put it in the paper.

So the United States thought that they had a deal. With Iran. And then two days later they're like, oh, so sorry, no deal. Here's Trump speaking. He said, They told me, number one, you're getting it, but you're going to have to take it out because the site was so obliterated, meaning we're going to have to take the uranium out, all right?

So you can have it, but you have to get it out because they said that the site was so obliterated by the bombings that there's only one or two countries in the world that could get it because it's so deep and got hit so hard, there's no way that they would have the equipment to move it. And they said, you and China are the only two countries in the world that could take it out.

So we talked about it. You have to take it out. They said we don't have the ability.

So. When, in response to the offer, Trump said, How stupid are they? Stupid people? They think that we'll get tired of this, I'll get bored, I'll have some pressure, but there's no pressure, there's no pressure at all. That's key because they know that the Americans are complaining about the price of gas.

They know that's any politician's Achilles heel because we drive a lot in this country, and people love to drive their big, huge, honking urban assault vehicles. Right? Like, I'm a big fan of.

Well, if you think gas prices are too high or you don't want to really be hurt as much by gas prices, don't buy a huge. like truck basically that can fit your kids' entire soccer team in it by a car like our parents had like by a normal car That's what our parents had. But people love, especially in the suburban areas right around New York. They love the moms drive those big, huge vehicles, one bigger than the next, because somebody down the street got a bigger one. And then they complain about the gas prices.

Well, you do have some control over gas prices to a certain extent. And how much it costs you to fill up your urban assault vehicle. Every time I hear people complain about that, I'm like, yeah, but what do you drive? There you go. We've never owned one.

We've never even owned a crossover. We have a Jeep. A Jeep Wrangler is our big vehicle. That's it. And he said we're going to have complete victory.

So here, let's go to cut two. Here's President Trump talking about how he thinks this is all going when it all shakes out in the end, when it shakes out in the end, What is the outcome going to be? Very simple. Iran cannot have A nuclear weapon. They can't have it.

And if they did have it, the Middle East would be gone, Israel would be gone, and then hit Europe probably next. We're doing this service to the world. And this has gone on for 47 years. Other presidents and leaders of other countries that have the power. should have done it, but they didn't do it.

But we're going to have a complete victory. Complete victory. I will say though. And we're going to talk about this a little bit more later in the show about gas prices and Trump's energy policy. Because I do believe that.

If he doesn't get gas prices down, and when this is all over, gas prices are going to come down. We all know that. But it's the one thing Democrats have because Democrats don't stand for anything.

So the only thing they have is hitting him hard. With negatives, right? That's all they have.

So, I think that has to happen soon because summer's starting and people are going to be hitting the road even more.

So, I think that's got to happen. All right, we've got more coming up: 866-40-87669. And then we're joined by Lieutenant Colonel Alan West right here on the Brian Kilmead Show. Diving deep into today's top stories, it's Brian Kilmead. Uh Radio that makes you think.

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So, something interesting that came out yesterday was something that happened like eight weeks ago. And I'm going to let John Roberts tell you about it. It's cut six, Eric. We're finding out now that this actually really did happen. There were questions as to what exactly happened, who exactly did it.

But here's John Roberts telling us what happened. Forces from the United Arab Emirates are carrying out military strikes inside Iran. Fox is told that the UAE forces are directly engaged inside the Islamic Republic and have been for several days. This comes after Iran launched dozens of missiles and drones at the UAE during the conflict. Yeah, so Inside Iran.

It's amazing. We now know that Israel built and the US built entire bases. inside Iran, right under their noses and they didn't know.

So now you know that the UAE launched a secret counter-strike against Iran, and they crippled one of their oil refineries on Levon Island.

Now, this happened. Just before The US solidified the ceasefire on April 8th. And that it By hitting it. Huge fire, and it's expected to be crippled for months.

So, this affects their ability to pump out the oil, to refine the oil, and that's a good thing. But they take time to rebuild, that's the bad thing. At the time, they said it had been struck by enemy fire. They did not name the source, but they launched an attack against the UAE in Kuwait in response. But they have been doing that at the height of the war.

Anyway, The UAE has not commented on the strikes, but how cool is that? I thought that was, I was like, good, you know, because they are alienating all of their quote-unquote friends in the area, right? Like, they're just flailing at everybody.

Now, Just a couple of little quickfire stories here about Iran.

So they're prepared now to downblend their enriched uranium. They offer to go from 3.7% at 20% levels, but they've refused to transfer the material outside the country. This is according to Al Jazeera. A source from Al Jazeera said that Washington had demanded access to Iran's what is now sixty percent enriched uranium, and Push wanted a twenty year halt to enrichment, but they rejected that. The source also said that Iran was prepared to continue enrichment under the IAEA supervision, which, by the way, we know that that supervision from the past was a joke.

They had to give them 24 hours advance notice before they inspected anything.

So it gave Iran time to move stuff, and they only showed them certain places. Monitoring by the IAEA was a joke.

So all of that was rejected. An international affairs adviser to Iran's current Supreme Leader, Motabah Khomeini, that's the Ayatollah Khomeini's son, Because they think he may even be dead because there's been nothing heard nor seen of him at all since we know he was quote unquote injured in strikes.

So there's a lot of rumors swirling around, but there's been no signs of life whatsoever. The cardboard Ayatollah, was that the best part of this whole thing ever? We had Baghdad Bob, right, at one point.

Now we had the cardboard Ayatollah. That was absolutely, that was fantastic. Whoever's head of their comms team, um, Somebody might want to retain them because that was great. Everybody talked about it.

Alright, the international affairs. Advisor to the Supreme Leader said that President Trump should not present the ceasefire with Tehran as a victory. When he goes to Beijing, he leaves for Beijing today. We're going to get into that. He said, you will enter Beijing.

Never think that by exploiting our restraint today that you will enter Beijing triumphantly. We defeated you on the battlefield, so never think that you will be the winner of diplomacy because we know China's playing both sides of the fence on this, as they always do.

So I guess we kind of do too.

So it's how negotiations work. That's war.

So they're warning Trump.

Now Trump is leaning, according to Israel's Channel 12. Trump is leaning towards resuming the war, just saying that's it. Like, he's only got so much patience, and then he's just going to go in and just level it. They say he is increasingly inclined to order a resumption of military operations because of frustration with Tehran. And they're stalling.

That's what they're doing, stalling tactics. One administration official was quoted as saying that Trump is going to hit him a bit. Another senior official told Israel's Channel 12: We wanted an agreement, but now everyone understands where this is heading. Officials talking to Channel 12 said Trump had hoped to reach a deal, but was surprised that Iran was unwilling to meet his demands.

So now the military option is back in the forefront, and we know that he met with military advisors over the weekend. The report said that Vice President J.D. Vance and Envoy Steve Witkoff met with Trump yesterday to discuss the next steps. And before the meeting, as you heard, Trump said that the ceasefire was dying. It was just dying.

Also, some news about Pakistan. We'll talk about that coming up and their involvement because they are the intermediaries with all of this when it comes to these negotiations. Or are they? Are they? Are they misleading?

We'll find out coming up. Lieutenant Colonel Alan West will be joining us right here on the Brian Kilmey Show. Don't go anywhere. Breaking news. Unique opinions.

Hear it all on the Brian Kill Me Show. Welcome back to the Brian Kilmey Show. I'm Mary Walters sitting in the seat for Brian. Joining us now, Lieutenant Colonel Alan West. He is the director of the American Constitutional Rights Union.

He's the executive director. He's also a former Florida Congressman. You can find him on X at Alan West. Super easy, sir. Welcome to the Brian Kilmy Show.

Always a pleasure to get to speak with you. Hey, well, thank you, Mary. And it's an honor to be able to chat with you as well. There is so much we have to talk about, shall we? Let's talk first about what's happening in Iran.

I and many others think that they're just trying to run out the clock. They think they're dealing with Bush or Obama or Biden, and Trump is a horse of a different color. I do think, though, that President Trump is surprised at how long this has taken. Like, I think he kind of thought that we'll hit him hard, they're going to cry, uncle, and that's going to be the end of it. But they do seem a tad suicidal, don't they?

Well, of course, they are suicidal because everything about them is based upon their theocracy, and that leads to their delusion and their derangement. And one of the things that I learned being over in the Middle East, when you deal with Islamic jihadists, they will tell you that you may have watches, but we have time. And they just really believe, as you just stated, that they can just run the clock out on us because they pay attention to our news. They see the Democrats and how they're acting. And they see people like former Vice President Kamala Harris referring to this combat operation as BS.

So they understand how they can try to leverage popular opinion. And that's exactly what they saw happen in the Vietnam War. But I think that the grace that President Trump has shown is going to run out pretty soon. He has given them an opportunity, an off-ramp. They have not taken it.

And so I believe that when he says this ceasefire is on life support, I think it is done. And we probably shouldn't have gone into it in the first place. You have to bring these people to their knees because they only understand. Strength and might.

Now, look, what are we to make?

Now, we know that Pakistan has been the intermediary. They've been negotiating this deal. But we now know that Pakistan allowed Iranian military aircraft to park on their airfields while they were serving as the diplomatic conduit between Tehran and Washington. And they also allegedly sent some civilian aircraft as well to Afghanistan.

So we basically can't trust anybody, right? No, you you know, you can't trust this. You know, again, I call it the 21st century axis of evil, and I think that Pakistan has a part in that. We know that you cannot say that there's a six foot six Saudi Arabian that is in your country, and you don't know that he's in their country. And I'm referring to Osama bin Laden, who was there at Abbott, which is their version of the city that holds their West Point, their military academy.

So I think that the Pakistanis are trying to act on behalf of the Chinese and all of this, and they see a constraint on their resources, being in oil and natural gas, as well as China does. And they want to do everything possible to prevent that from being cut off. Look, I think energy independence, energy security is a very important linchpin, and we're peeling the onion back on China. We have taken Venezuela off the table for them. Look at how that's affecting Cuba as well.

And so China and also Russia, they don't have that same amount of influence and impact in our hemisphere as they once had.

So They're kind of on their heels. And again, I think that we need to continue to keep the pressure up. And as we call it in the military, op tempo, which is operational tempo, we need to regain that. Yeah. You mentioned all those countries, Venezuela, Cuba.

Senator Dave McCormick did an interview over the weekend, and he said that the world is getting reshaped right now. There's been no time since World War II where the shape of geopolitics is changing so quickly with what's happening in the Western Hemisphere, with Venezuela, what will likely happen with Cuba, what's happening in the Middle East. Underlying all of that is energy. Exactly what you just said. Is this something that is happening because of Trump?

Or is this just the point in time and whoever was President at this point in time would have been involved in this changing of geopolitics?

Well, I don't think that if it was Kamal Harris sitting at 1600 Pennsylvania, it would be happening. You would see Russia, China, Iran, North Korea, Islamic jihadists, and transnational narco-criminal terrorist organizations just thriving. And we saw that during the Biden administration. We also saw that during the Obama administration. Really, the Biden administration was Obama part three.

So, yes, I think that it does have something to do with the person that's in 1600, Pennsylvania, right now, and that is President Trump. And he sees things in a different way. He doesn't see the normal geopolitical structure. He does not contain himself or restrain himself inside some type of political box. He thinks outside that box.

And that is very confusing. That is very perplexing because you cannot put a typecast on him as you can with others that are politicians first and foremost above anything else. And so when you look at this trip that he's taking to China right now, he's bringing businessmen. And I'm sure that he's going to operate from a position of the high ground and say this is how things are going to be, and these are the type of business deals. And I would love to see him put Xi Jinping in a position where he has to come and get his oil and natural gas out of the Gulf of America and pay those market prices instead of those undercut prices he's been getting from Iran.

How important is it for President Trump to get the price of gas down before? like Fourth of July at the latest. Yeah, it's monumental, without a doubt. And I think that there are two very important strategic imperatives right now. Number one, you've got to get control of the straits of Hormuz.

And as a young major at Fort Bright, North Carolina, we worked on a battle simulation where we went in, the 82nd Airborne Division, we went in and we seized the airfield and we seized the facilities there in Bandar Abbas, which is the Iranian city right there at the Strait of Hormuz, along with Kesham Island.

So I think that we have to start looking at that. Iran cannot be in control of that major strategic choke point where, what, 80% some odd of the oil and gas flows through there. And I think the other thing we need to do is separate Iran from the revenues they receive from the oil and gas. And Karg Island should be another island that we could seize. We have the capability, we have the capacity, we have two carrier strike groups there.

We have two Marine Expeditionary Units. We have a ready brigade from the 82nd Airborne Division, as well as special. operations forces.

So I think it's time that we clear out these port facilities where these little small boats are operating, attack boats are operating out of. And we say that this is under the control of the United States of America, much the same as we saw with the oil and gas industry coming out of Venezuela. Yeah. Yeah. Although I know several I know plenty of people who are very upset with President Trump because he promised no new wars.

And this is happening, I think, if you put if you put boots on the ground, they they're going to lose their minds.

Well, but look, okay, you're talking to a guy that was there in Desert Seal Desert Storm and also Iraq and also Afghanistan. We're not talking about hundreds of thousands of people. We're not talking about going into mainland Iran. We're talking about going after a capability, a capacity of your enemy. We're talking about going after their center of gravity.

And if you have these people that are just petulant and petty and they don't understand how to leverage the strength of the United States of America strategically and tactically as well, then they're not sitting in that chair. You cannot go out there and tell the enemy what you're not going to do. When you tell the enemy what you're not going to do, guess what? You give them a gap by which they can exploit you. Yeah, no, 100%.

I didn't say they were smart. I just said they exist. Only you could put it that way. All right.

So, you are in the beautiful state of Texas. You guys are the ones who started this entire redistricting thing, and I hope you're happy now. Everybody blames Texas for starting the redistricting fever that is spreading across the country. I think Democrats have redistriced a lot of stuff way before, and I think the gerrymandering by the Democrats, Republicans just wanted to play by the rules, as we saw by Indiana earlier this year, which drove me crazy, last year, which drove me absolutely insane. Can Democrats catch up, or have they gerrymandered so much that there's really no place for them to go?

There is no place for them to go. And also, this whole thing reminds me of a great maxim from a retired Marine First Sergeant that I know, a friend of mine by the name of Jim Reifinger. He said that if you ever find yourself in a fair fight, it's all because your tactics suck. We've been trying to be fair and trying to be nice and accommodating. And Republicans have been bringing a plastic spoon to a gunfight all of these years.

When you look at states up in New England that have zero Republican representation, you look at Illinois, California. And so what we did in Texas was just to say, this is logical. Look at the voting trends here, and we're going to redistrict, which we can do legally. We don't have an independent commission. And that upset the Democrats.

And it upset the Democrats to the point where now they're exposing their hypocrisy. They're exposing themselves. And how stupid they are to challenge the Supreme Court and their decision because it was the Democrats who were the ones that were out there making redistricting based upon race. They were the ones that gave us poll taxes and literacy tests, and they created the Ku Klux Klan to intimidate blacks from voting in the first place, which Republicans gave with the 15th Amendment. No Democrats supported it.

So I think that we're exposing the Democrats for their hypocrisy. I mean, look at the debacle in Virginia. And again, of course, now because Voting Rights Act, Section 2, if you're not showing intentional racial bias, you just can't draw districts because of people's skin color. That's unconstitutional. And so all of these things are being exposed, and I think that's why they're throwing a HISTIFFIN on the left.

Well, apparently, speaking of Virginia, and again, they're not smart. They misspelled Virginia, right? And they misspelled Senator.

So they've apparently cleared that up, but it says right on the front, emergency application to the Supreme Court of Virginia.

So they reapplied to the Supreme Court of Virginia instead of the Supreme Court of the United States. Yeah. Yeah, again, I I can understand why would they go to the the Supreme Court in the United States when they violated Virginia law. Yeah, if the Supreme Court of Virginia said no, it kind of reminds me of Demi Moore in the movie A Few Good Men, where she said, Well, I strenuously object.

Well, you know, overrule.

So they can continue to do the exact same thing, but they're going to get the same answer. No. You violated the laws of this state in doing this and suffer the consequences thereof.

So this is I think if you want to blame Texas for anything, blame Texas for exposing the hypocrisy of the left when it comes to all of this thing called gerrymandering, which is based upon Elbridge Jerry out of Massachusetts in the first place. Yeah, well, they don't care about history. You know that. They run on emotion. They just get people ginned up based on emotion, and it works with a lot of their base.

It's just what they feel is right or what they feel is the correct thing to do. Suicidal empathy, right? Gadsat has an entire book out about that now. Every Republican should be out there on the same sheet of music, basically saying what I just said, saying that the Democrats and their racism is the reason why we had a Voting Rights Act when the 15th Amendment gave blacks the right to vote. They didn't like it.

They're the party of Jim Crow. They're the party of racial gerrymandering. All of these things, what they did. But now all of a sudden they figured they could use this to their advantage to create districts that would be perpetually Democrat because they were going to draw it based upon race.

Well, guess what? It's not constitutional. And that's why they want to just, we can get into that whole thing. That's why they just want to retroactively change the date of retirement for these Supreme Court justices on the Virginia State Supreme Court and then just fire them all and then just rehire ones that will override the state's Constitution. But the problem is there's not enough time for them to do it, so it's not going to happen anyway.

But that's how, but that's why they're fighters. And that's what I want the last time, the couple minutes we have left. They're fighters. And you talked about bringing a plastic spoon to a knife fight. Republicans are not.

They will not, Fune will not enforce a talking filibuster. We just let them say, filibuster. He is depriving Trump of any recess appointments yet again. And they will not, he will not bring the Save Act to a vote. I had a conversation with someone who I was confidential, so I'm not going to say who it was, but this person said.

It's not going to change. It's not going to happen. They know that we want the SAVE Act passed. They're never going to bring it to a vote. It's just not going to happen.

This is who Republicans are. They're very happy being this way. And a lot of them just don't like Trump. They're just going to. slow walk his agenda.

You know, the interesting thing is that when the Democrats are in the minority, they are tenacious. When they are in the majority, they are tyrannical. And the Republicans have not understood how to do that. I mean, when they get the majority, they're tentative. They're just reticent and recalcitrant in taking any action.

So somebody in the Republican Party up there in Washington, D.C., they need to put on the big boy and big girl pants, and they need to get the fighting because this is about the future and legacy of our nation. These people, if they ever get in a position of power control, we know exactly what they're going to do. 100%. But Republicans could do the same thing and they won't. And I think there are a lot of people like myself, as you know, I am not a registered Republican.

But I'm to the point now where I'm looking at midterms and I've actually had the thought: well, why should I even bother voting if they're not going to do what we want them to do? 80% of the country wants the SAVE Act, they won't do it. We want them to get rid of the filibuster. They won't do it. Yes, and that's the sad thing because you're demoralizing your own side, your own support, your own electoral base.

And that's the worst thing you can have happen is saying, you know, follow me and let's charge, but yet then you go hide in the hut and you tell everybody else to go run and attack the hill. That's not leadership. And it something needs to happen between the House and the Senate. Yeah, I don't know what's going to happen though. And I don't know who does it.

Mike Johnson's supposedly fighting, but you've got Jon Thune sitting there and there aren't what I think we need five or six senators who are brave enough to come call for his recall and they're not doing it. Yeah. Well, that's that self-licking ice cream cone that we call Washington DC. They like to take care of themselves, and I think that sooner or later the American people need to rise up and say we don't want this anymore. And especially, like I say, within the Republican Party, because this we have got to have people that go on offense.

You can't win on defense. And I think that's one of the great things about President Trump is that he does not play defense. He is very aggressive, and there are some people that don't like that, but then again, he's not a politician. Exactly. If the worst problem you have with him is his tone, I think that's a good day.

So, Lieutenant Colonel Alan West, thank you for joining us. It is always such a pleasure. Follow him on X at Alan West with an E, A-L-L-E-N, because some people put an A and then can't find you. It's E-N, Alan West. And like I said, if you want to see Alan West's baby pictures, go to YouTube, look for Mary Walter Radio, and look for one of my podcasts because you're on more than once, several times.

Somewhere in there are baby pictures of Alan West. Oh, my goodness. Why do you want to out me like that? You sent them to me. All the best, Mary.

All right.

Thank you so much. Have a great week. God bless. All right, we've got more coming up. Don't go anywhere.

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Alright, summer right around the corner if it ever gets warm. And a new study was published in JAMA by researchers at the University of Washington in Seattle. And they projected that by 2035, nearly half of us of all American adults, about 126 million people, will be medically obese.

So yay, America, way to go. In 1990, only 19.3% of U.S. adults were obese. That figure more than doubled. to 42.5% by 2022.

And it's going to reach almost 50% by 2035. I don't think they can make those GLP ones fast enough. I really don't. By 2035, they project that 60% of black women, 54% of Latino women will be obese, 47% of white women, 48% of Latino men. 45% of white men and 43% of black men will be obese.

Insane. It is absolutely crazy. We know what makes you fat. You know, this is the whole Maha thing. And by the way, my husband and I have been seriously trying to do the whole Maha thing, reading the ingredients.

looking for things that we can't pronounce that doesn't look right. and putting it back on the shelf.

So maybe we should try that. I'm Mary Walter. You're listening to The Brian Killmead Show. From high atop Fox News headquarters in New York City. Always seeking solutions, never sowing division.

It's Brian Kilmead. Welcome to the Brian Killmead Show. Hope everyone's having a great day. I'm Mary Walter sitting in for Brian Kilmead. 866-40-87669 is my number, or you can reach out to me on X.

Just tag me in a post on X at Mary Walter Radio with no S on that, Mary Walter Radio. But do that. After we speak with our guest, Edward Lawrence. You know him from the Fox Business Network. Edward, thank you so much for joining me here on the Brian Kill Me Show.

Mary, thanks for having me.

So much to talk about. Where should we start? How about the president leaving today to head to China? And well, tell us first, what's the focus of this trip? Because he's bringing a lot of CEOs with him, isn't he?

He is. And the president has been doing what the administration is now calling commercial diplomacy around the globe. He has these CEOs in tow, and he looks for America-first policy related to how can we improve America's business. You know, one of the CEOs, there's about 16 of them that are going with him. I mean, huge names, starting with Tim Cook from Apple.

Elon Musk is going, we know him from Tesla, as well as Jane Fraser from Citibank, Qualcomm. The CEO of Boeing is going.

Now, some of these companies may see a boom when they leave. For example, we are expecting. Boeing to get an announcement in China that China's making a large purchase from the airliner. We're also soon to see the president try and push soybeans. We know that the Chinese love American soybeans.

They're one of the largest consumers of soybeans around the globe. And they're buying 25 million tons of soybeans. That's the agreement that has been made between starting this year going through 2028. The president wants them to up that.

So there is a very big commercial aspect to this. Also, Iran is going to be on the list. That's something China wants to talk about because they import 90 or about 80 to 90 percent of the oil from Iran goes to China, and they get it at a severe discount.

So what's happening now is China, their energy costs are increasing because they're having to buy at full price on the open market. China seems to be straddling the fence here, playing both sides, right? Because they have incredible influence over Iran. Obviously, Iran needs them because of what you just said. China buys so much of their oil.

So, what happens, though, if President Trump tries to get a cut? Of that oil that is coming out of Iran. I would assume he's going to try to somehow make sure that America benefits from that because we're the ones doing the hard lifting with Iran, right? We're the ones who are leading the charge. We're the ones that are spending the money in order to stop Iran from developing a nuclear weapon to basically destroy all of the surrounding countries, if not further.

So, how does that affect China if we're going to benefit from it?

Well, and he has a blueprint for this, right? Venezuela.

So, when Maduro was arrested by the United States, the new leader, Darcy Rodriguez, is working with the president, where the U.S. is now taking the Venezuelan oil and selling it on the open market, taking some of it, sort of a finder's fee, if you want to call it, for the United States, but most of it going back to Venezuela to rebuild the country. He wants to bring that plan, or that plan has been working in Venezuela, that could be used in Iran if he could find a leadership that would work with them. Sure, the Chinese would be very nervous about this going forward, but they also have their Large importer. First of all, they are not energy self-sufficient.

They are a large importer of oil. They import something like 11 million barrels a day.

So they do need oil. They get it from Russia. They get it on the open market. They used to get it from Venezuela. They no longer get that.

And then they get it from Iran, which has now severely been curtailed and trying to get the oil from that. Yet, this is a game that Chinese has been playing both sides. They would like to see an end to this. They would like to see that Iranian oil flow again to China.

So it'll be very interesting to watch the conversations and the maneuvering from the Chinese where they don't want to upset President Trump too much, but yet they want to get their agenda through. And their agenda is multifaceted. It's not just this energy part. China really wants the most advanced semiconductor chips from the United States. The president has blocked that from NVIDIA.

It's very interesting, not on the list of CEOs going to China is Jensen Wong from NVIDIA.

So China, that's the eye on the ball for China, is artificial intelligence. The energy stuff they can weather, but it'll be interesting to see how the conversations go between this push and pull for energy technology. You know, it's so wrapped up with Iran, obviously, a lot of this, because energy, because all of this requires energy. All of this, this AI, and we're starting, all of the move forward into the future with being the first ones with AI and the chips and all this stuff requires energy, which is why you're seeing so many people in small-town America where there used to be a farm not wanting data centers and things like that because it sucks up the water and the electric.

So Iran is deeply involved in all of this because of the energy aspect of it. But I would assume that President Trump doesn't want that to be the focus. He doesn't want to talk about Iran. He wants to talk about what this trip is supposed to be about with. A summit on technology and all the things that you were just talking about with the chips and all that other stuff.

So. How Can the President avoid that, or is that really going to be part of this? What do you think? Yeah, and that's been the problem: Iran is starting to dominate this conversation. And China had originally come out last week and said we would like to see this finished by the time President Trump visits China.

That has not happened. And Iran also knows this. They're also trying to not give President Trump a win going into China, and that could play into the strength dynamic. As President Trump is coming in on a strong footing, Iran is trying to erode that strong footing by saying, hey, look, you still have this problem over here. But for the U.S., the deliverables are status quo in terms of the rare earth minerals being exported around the globe.

China had stopped that last year, early last year, and sort of put the world on notice that they control 90% of the processing of rare earth minerals and now about 60% of the mining.

So you've seen, again, this diplomacy, commercial diplomacy, President Trump going around the globe, gobbling up, making agreements to do rare earth. Minerals to put the U.S. on good footing going forward.

So, the U.S. wants to keep this status quo, keep the rare earths flowing. They also, the U.S. side also wants Boeing. They want to see that big purchase of airliners.

They also want to see more soybeans being bought. From the Chinese side, they want that technology. They want to see the semiconductor.

So, going into this meeting, Iran was not the top priority for China. That may have shifted, but at the moment, it was not the top priority for this meeting. It was getting American technology and keeping the status quo because China right now is stealing intellectual property from U.S. companies in duroves. None of those rules have changed.

So, anything that goes into China, any company that goes into China, will basically anticipate that they're going to lose some sort of intellectual property going and make that adjustment.

So, China wants to keep the status quo on that front, but wants this technology to be imported.

So, why wasn't the CEO of NVIDIA invited on this trip? It seems like he would be one of the first ones on the list. Yeah, and I think it has to do with the fact that. The U.S. is not going to lift that embargo of the most advanced chips.

The president has made it clear the U.S. needs to keep its competitive advantage when it comes to AI around the globe, especially with China not being a good actor when it comes to hacking.

Well, if you add AI to that mix, it could get a lot worse.

So he wants to make sure that the most advanced chips, the president does, most advanced chips do not go into the wrong hands.

So I think that Jen Soong is selling in droves the less powerful chips in China. But at this point, there's no advantage for NVIDIA at the moment to go in because those most advanced chips are not going to be sold there.

So you mentioned Cuba, Venezuela. President Trump is reshaping the global landscape, right? And he's doing it through what he knows best: economics. Right. He's using the forces of economics in order to reshape the power structure in the world.

China lost a lot when we took over Venezuela. When he went into Venezuela, picked out Maduro.

Now, all that Venezuelan oil comes into the Gulf of America. Cuba's next. He's made no bones about Cuba being next, right? That would have been China's base in our hemisphere, not far at all, obviously, from the United States.

So, with Trump reshaping the world that way, two questions. Number one, does that put China in a defensive position? And well, let's do that one first. Does that put China in a defensive position? Yeah, no, he's absolutely reshaping the influence that China had, which was growing in our hemisphere.

They had a foothold in Venezuela, and they were expanding their ties in Venezuela. In Cuba, they had expanded a submarine base or a ship, I'm sorry, a ship base that could be used for submarines in Cuba. That's on our doorstep.

So, and the president is certainly reshaping all of that. For the most part, the Chinese have been driven out of Venezuela at the moment. Should the Cuba, the negotiations are going on behind the scenes between the U.S. and Cuba, should that sort of rise up to get the attention after the Iran situation is taken care of, that would certainly then push China out of this sphere of influence. And they have to be looking at this.

What I've noticed, or what I've seen with China, because I do keep up with some of these things, is China is making more deals now in Africa.

So they have originally through their Belt and Road initiative, they exported sort of their money, but then they made unrealistic benchmarks for the countries to pay back that money. And when those unrealistic benchmarks were not met, China then confiscated that. They did that with ports, specifically in Africa.

So they're trying to control the entire supply chain.

So I've seen greater now involvement with China in Africa because maybe the Chinese are looking to say, okay, we've lost. What's happened in Venezuela? We've lost what's happened in the hemisphere closest to the United States. Let's take what is available to us at a faster pace, and then we can come back and see what we can do about the United States.

So I have seen more moves from China in Africa. The second question, the changes that President Trump is invoking through his economic pressure and his economic moves, which is different than any president before him. He's approaching the world order totally differently. Can it last past his presidency? Or is this something that can be easily undone by a Democrat just come in and just executive order after executive order, totally upending it all?

Well, it can easily be undone. Look at what happened with the Biden administration. You saw the disaster that happened when he flooded the area with money. We moved out of Iran. We made deals with Iran, sending them money.

You saw exactly what happened. Iran's influence started to increase, and then we had problems with the Houthis. We had problems with Hezbollah. We had problems with the proxies.

So you completely see. What President Trump was doing in his first term. He's trying to replicate that in his second term in a bigger scale. The answer is yes, it could be undone by another president. It depends on what the American voters decide to do.

Or another president could come in and say, hey, look at the gains that were made by President Trump. Let's keep those gains going.

So it depends on the person, I think, who comes in. But clearly, you're seeing Democrats move farther to the left. And it's sort of an anti-Trump agenda.

So whatever he did, doesn't matter what it is, blinders on, we'll just undo it. And I think that you might see that should a Democrat win in 2028. If a Republican wins, say J.D. Vance or Marco Rubio or one of the other Republicans who rises up, they will see the gains that the president's making. Because what's happening now, if you take a step back, the investments the president talks about, the trillions of dollars, they will eventually become manufacturing that opens facilities here for long-term growth in our industry.

Now, that process is taking a little bit longer than the president thought. You know, the investments made last year are starting to come online maybe summer, end of summer this year.

So you're going to really start to see a boom, and he has set this leg of the tripod up so the economy can really take off. He's got trade deals, he's got deregulation, and he's got lower taxes. And that has been his success formula in this first administration, and he's carrying that through the second administration. I have about a minute and a half left, and you had mentioned soybeans and farmers. I would like to see more farmers thrive than see their farms plowed over for data centers and townhouse and condos.

So is there anything else? Because I think that that's a block that really needs attention. Is there anything that the President is doing to help farmers that we haven't really heard about?

Well, so yes, yes and no. The President loves farmers, as we know, in this country, and he has tried to bolster them where they had issues. They offered the $30 billion loan guarantees for the farmers. They're looking at increasing the ethanol portion of gasoline. Part of that ethanol is made with corn, which then directly helps farmers.

So if he keeps the expands the time that the U.S. is able to use ethanol and expands the areas that are able to use ethanol, that would also help farmers. And it could possibly push up the price of some food. But I talked to the Agriculture Secretary who said that she would like to see maybe some farmers have a little bit more money, but it won't significantly increase the price of food.

So there's a balance that goes on. But again, to keep that core heartland going and producing food for the U.S. people. We don't want to get into a position. Where we're reliant on China or another country for our food supply.

And that is another thing the President is keen on to make sure that we're self-sufficient.

So it's very interesting to see the moves that he's making. And one of the things the U.S. has realized is that the soybean farmers are reliant on China.

So when China has used them as a pawn earlier this year, the President stepped in quickly to try and fix that and stop that.

So I think the President is very keen on farmers and he's very sensitive to their issues, and he wants to put America first, but also farmers first. Yeah. It's just so sad to see what's happening. I'm in the People's Socialist Republic of New Jersey. That was once the garden state.

And I think there's approximately like two farm stands left in the entire state. That's it. They've all been plowed over. And didn't they try to eminent domain one of them? They do it all the time.

Eminent domain for low-income housing. It's everywhere, and it's really, really sad. Edward Lawrence, thank you so much for making us smarter. It's just fascinating. Thank you for your time.

Mary, thank you. I appreciate it. Have a great rest of your week. 866-408-7669 is my number. If you want to jump in, if you can't get to the phone, you can always reach out to me on X.

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Supreme Courts around the country in the news, most notably Virginia's Supreme Court, but Pennsylvania's Supreme Court also has a little something going on, so let me share it with you. A Supreme Court justice from Pennsylvania, his name is David Wecht. He just released a statement and he announced that he's changing his party affiliation from Democrat. To independent. Let me read it to you and tell you what he says here.

This is just part of it, and I'm not going to read it all because there's a lot of other stuff in there. But the important parts I got for you. He said, In 1998, my wife and I were married at Pittsburgh's Tree of Life Congregation on whose board of trustees I served. 20 years later, in the very same sanctuary where our wedding occurred, the worst massacre of Jews in American history was perpetrated. That terror came from the right.

Jew hatred has always festered on the fringe of that sector. In the years that have followed, that same hatred has grown on the left. Increasingly, it has moved from the fringe to the mainstream. It is the duty of all good people to fight this virus and to do so before it is too late. My jurisprudence and adjudication have always been independent, and they always will be.

Now my voting registration reflects that independence as well. From nineteen ninety eight to two thousand one, years that preceded my judicial career, I served as vice chair of the Pennsylvania Democratic Party. In the quarter century that has passed since then, the Democratic Party has changed. Nazi tattoos, jihadist chants, intimidation, and attacks at synagogues and other hateful anti Jewish invective and actions are minimized, ignored, and even coddled. Acquiescence to Jew hatred is now disturbingly common among activists, leaders, and many even many elected officials in the Democratic Party.

I can no longer abide this, so I won't. I am no longer registered with any political party. And he goes on to say there have been other great civilizations in the past. And almost all of them have deteriorated and declined when Jew hatred grew and metastasized.

So he's out. He's so busy, he'll make your head spin. It's Brian Kilmead. And welcome back to the Brian Kill Me Chow. How are you?

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Interesting piece in Axios that Allison sent to me. And it it's so okay, so it's it's this weird Alright, just follow me. And they talk about Las Vegas.

Now, Las Vegas, I'm going to add this to this story. Las Vegas, we know, has kind of been floundering. People aren't going to Las Vegas anymore. And um Okay. I don't know why.

I've never been to Vegas. To me, it's like an adult version of Disney, but it's gotten very, very, very expensive.

So I think that's one of the reasons why people aren't going to Vegas. They're like, this is ridiculous. And why else? Because Sin City, as it's been known, is around right in the palm of your hand for most stuff. And the the big three once forbidden vi vices Weed, right?

Drugs. Gambling Important. But you can walk down the street in pretty much almost any town. And Bye weed. Or just go into Manhattan and walk around and you'll be high within 15 minutes because it stinks to high holy heaven in Manhattan.

It's horrific. I don't like the smell, so I hate. Being in Manhattan because it is everywhere. Hate it. Uh gambling of porn you can do right on your phone, right?

There's no there's no shame to it anymore. I was in our little local bar on the Kentucky Derby Day. And all these guys are on their phones, you know, placing bets and doing all this other stuff.

So you don't have to go to Vegas anymore, right? It's all right there. It used to be, you know, what happens in Vegas stays in Vegas.

Well, there's nothing shameful to stay in Vegas anymore. Right? We've kind of normalized a bunch of these things that used to be. Sinful, you know, and kind of dangerous and edgy. And that's why you went to Vegas, right?

Oh, they're going to Vegas. Woo-hoo! You know, that was once one of those things. But it's become kind of Disney-fied in the sense of themes. You know, you've got the New York, New York Hotel, and you've got the Venice one, and they're almost like theme parks for adults.

So, And this piece goes on to say that the government did not turn a blind eye to most of these behaviors that we once considered vices. They encouraged it. And they're scaling what we used to call sin. They're scaling it up in real time. He quotes a sub stacker named Derek Thomson.

And points out that in a 2023 Wall Street Journal poll, Americans said that patriotism, religion, And patriotism, sorry, religion and having children and community all mattered less to them than in years before.

So these are the things that once were the cornerstones of our society. Being patriotic, religion played a huge game in it. Having children, building a family, and being part of a community all mattered. And now that is dwindling. But you know what matters more now?

The only thing that matter people say matters more. Money. That's what they now say matters more. Money. Now, a lot of that has to do with the economy, obviously, but I'm willing to bet that back in the Great Depression with the Dust Bowl and all that stuff that was going on, people still would have said that their family matters most.

Or the relationship with God.

Something like that mattered more than money, that they wouldn't trade their family for money. But that's changed. And Is that because What used to be considered sinful no longer is. And we can make money through gambling on our phones, right? And you can pop up a weed shop, you can make money.

There's no sin in selling that, right?

So. Have we shifted our devices? Not only have we shifted our vices, or are there any vices anymore? Like childborn, right? But you've got a movement out to normalize pedophilia.

It's not, it's not, it's, they can't help it. Yeah. Right there there is actually a fringe group like that. And nothing's shocking anymore. I guess that's my nothing is shocking anymore.

So where do we go from here? Does behavior have to become more and more outlandish in order to be shocking? 8664087669. And it happened quickly. And not only that, but the government is monetizing it via taxes.

So the government is not turning a blind eye. The government was the governor on that pedal of testing the boundaries. The government would go, yeah, it's not cool.

Sorry, not near a school zone. Instead, we're drag queens into schools to read storybooks to kindergarteners. You know, the teaching of sex ed to kids in third grade. And putting it in a cartoon book so it's fun.

So I'm just curious.

So, where do we? Is that why? Like, I read this piece and I just went, I jumped to, is this why we see these like gangs of kids who just rampage through a neighborhood and just trash stores and take whatever they want? And there's no governor on behavior anymore. In my humble opinion.

The government was always there to kind of put the brake.

So, you're a bad parent, whatever. The government was there, like, you know what, fine, we're going to take your kid. He's going to Juvie. The G V doesn't exist any more. Nobody goes to jail any more.

He goes on to say in this piece that not long ago you might have gone to jail for smoking pot, let alone selling it, but now it is legal. It is a primary tax engine for nearly half the country. 24 states plus D.C. have legalized recreational marijuana. 40 states allow medical use.

Medical use, I don't have a problem with. I'm out on the whole recreational use. I have plenty of friends who do it, no big deal to them. Um not my thing. We do not partake because it's not legal on a federal level.

So my husband, being a doctor, cannot partake of gummies or anything like that because if he's ever drug tested, you know, it stays in your hair for 30 days, he could lose his ability to write prescriptions.

So You know, the the drugs, I think the ones that you need, the Like opiates and that kind of thing. Anyway, he could lose his privileges to do that because it is not legal on a federal scale, and he is not Hunter Biden. Also, if you own a firearm, when you sign the firearms, federal firearms card, it says, you know, do you take any substances, addictive substances that are prohibited? And you don't sign there and say, No, I do not.

Well, you're lying because on a federal level, Marijuana is not legal. And again, you're not Hunter Biden.

So, we stay away from it. Not our thing.

So. But I know a lot of people who do. States have collected nearly $25 billion in cannabis tax revenue since the first legal sales began in 2014. That's according to the Marijuana Policy Project. 2024 alone set a record at $4.4 billion.

California alone topped a billion in revenue. 866-408-7669. Let's go to Sandra in the People's Socialist Republic. I'm oh, not yet.

Okay, sorry. Um Oh, I have to take a break here. All right.

So we'll go. I want to talk about bedding coming up. And porn. And plenty of people I know s sit there and they're gambling on the horse races or whatever right on their phone. I never saw gambling as advice, but as advice.

But when you look at the numbers, When you look at the numbers. maybe um you'll change your mind. People betting money they don't have. All right, that's all coming up. Don't go anywhere you're listening to the Brian Kilmead Show.

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So, a great piece in Axios entitled Behind the Curtain: Scaling Sin. And basically what the author is saying is that We have Sin City is no longer sinful, right? Sin City, because half the stuff that you used to be able to do in Vegas is now totally legal, right? Porn's everywhere.

So is um so is gambling. It w but It's not shocking anymore, Sin City. when you have it right there on your phone. I want to give the authors credit. Jim Vanderhey and Mike Allen wrote this.

They go on to talk about betting.

So we just talked about weed. I'll talk about betting coming up. But first, I want to get to Patty here in Houston. Patty, welcome. You're on the Brian Kilmead Show.

Hi. Hey, you know, I think it's a spiritual awakening because all these people are going to make horrible mistakes and then they turn to God. Uh I was around 12 Steppers for 30 years and it's called pitiful incomprehensible demoralization. They reach a pit, you know, they reach a low point and then they turn to God. Most people didn't have the opportunity to act out.

Nowadays anybody can act out. Like you say, they got their phones with them. They got all this stuff around them. But I still think it I guess I'm an optimist. I have faith that it's all going to be good in the end.

But a lot of people, you know, I saw a lot of people die from their addictions. And, you know, they're going to have to come back and do it. I believe in reincarnation. They're going to have to come back and learn how to do it again. But it all ultimately leads.

To Illumination, you know, something better.

So, no matter how bad it looks, you gotta keep the faith. Yeah, that's very interesting because we are seeing a revitalization, especially with young men who are coming back to church. And where the young men go, a lot of times, the young women follow. And so we are seeing that. And I think it's cyclical.

We saw that in the 60s in this country. We saw this cover of Time magazine where people were coming to sunrise services on the beach in California. It was a very, it was all the hippies. It was a very, you know, I was out there in the 60s. Yeah, see, there you go.

The golden years. They were. Yeah. So now, but that's changed. And a lot of those people became the man that they were all against, right?

They all became in power. And now you're starting to see it again.

So I wonder if it is a cyclical thing. But I just worry about the what's where do we go for shock value now? That's the thing I worry about. Patty, thank you so much for joining me and kicking it off here on the Brian Kilmead Show. 866-4087669.

Let's go to betting. You have a betting machine right in your pocket. You have the app. More than half of American men ages 18 to 49 have an account with an online sports book. 63% of bettors said that they would bet $100 or more in one day.

31% reported having someone else concern someone express concerns about their sports betting. That's more than 23% last year.

So it's on the rise. A UCLA study found that bankruptcy rates and debt collection amounts rose in states that legalized sports betting, with young men in low-income areas hit hardest. Prediction markets have raised the stakes beyond sports now.

So you can now put money on chaos and destruction. You can gamify the outcome of a war. The money at stake is huge. April saw a one thousand two hundred percent year over year increase in trading volume for Polymarket and Calci combined, according to The Wall Street Journal. People betting with money that they don't have.

But the government isn't there to control these things anymore because they realized that they can make money off of it. They can take their fair share of your winnings.

So the government threw up its hands and said, We don't care, go for it, because Cha Ching, it's money in my pocket. Chris, listening on WABC in New York. Chris, welcome. You're on the Brian Kill Meet Show. Hello.

Good morning. You know, I am listening to you, and I can tell that we're in the same generation. We're both Generation X. Yes. And I've been to Vegas once.

And when I lived in Colorado for eight years, and I was having a conversation with somebody prior to me going to Vegas on a business trip, And or I mixed pleasure with business. I was in Utah and I made a two hour drive through the desert to go to Vegas. This man said to me, Vegas is a very polarizing place. You either love it or you hate it. And I think kind of expanding upon the things that you're saying, a lot of society, like Certain behaviors aren't acceptable or condoned now that were part of a normal way of life like when we grew up with like, say, the bar and the nightclub and the music scene, where our society is shifting more to a voyeuristic type society with younger the younger generation with the Internet.

Like when you go out and see DJs or live bands that play danceable kind of music, Men and women don't dance together anymore. This has been going on for ten or twelve years now, where you even see boyfriends and girlfriends go out and they don't dance with one another. Or if it's in theater groups, whether you're in a college town, whether it's good music or someplace else, It'll be like the men all hang out and dance together with one another and the women all hang out and dance together with one another. And this has been going on since like 2014 and and and it just keeps getting more that way. But, you know, it used to be like when we would go out, I'm sure if you went out, you have a A man that you didn't know come up and start dancing with you, and you either say yes or no, or you walk away, and it was.

it it wa it wasn't a big deal and and nowadays You know, the the younger generation, they just There's so little social interaction on that level. Everything is just. off of the Internet voyeuristic aspect. I know. The social skills are not there, and I blame COVID for some of that.

But also, before COVID, I would watch my nieces on the beach with their friends, and they're all just snapchatting each other. They're snapping, they're snapping, or they're chatting, whatever they said. And it's just like, you're sitting in a circle with each other on the beach. Why don't you talk to each other? But they don't know how to do that.

But I'm starting to see that change too with, again, you know, these groups that go to, for instance, in New York, St. John's, is St. John's Catholic Church, big deal. And they now have a social beforehand where they all get together and talk. And they're starting to learn that they need that social connection and they're getting it from going back to church.

So to me, I think that's great. And you're absolutely right. They need to get back to being social. Chris, thank you so much for joining me here on the Brian Kilmead show. Yeah, it's important.

You've got to be social. And they're learning that. Let's quickly go to Jessica in San Antonio. Jessica, I got about one minute here. Hi.

Hi, good morning, Mary. What's up?

Well, I got one minute, so go.

So I wanted to talk about earlier when you said that you drive a Jeep and we need to have more reasonable cars and with this gas thing. I am a combat vet. I did invade Afghanistan. I did invade Iraq. And we went in and we set up the fuel phones initially.

And what is really crucial is that these aircraft carriers carry. And a massive amount of fuel, which is also costing us a lot of money.

So one of the things that I am hoping that the President will do is just say to Iran, I'll remove the blockade, you open the streets. And then he could put the blockade back in if necessary. But let's get some things moving because October's coming around. Those aircraft carriers that are sitting out there. They're going to need another round of money.

And we just don't have it anymore as America. I mean, I'm paying $2,000 a month in groceries for a family of five with three children. Yeah. In San Antonio Texas. Yeah, well, it's I get it.

I get that the prices go up, but prices do go up, and we'll see what happens. The president can't do it all on his own, right? He's only one man. We do need Congress to act. And maybe if we could get Congress to act and do some things, we all would be better off.

We've got more coming up. I'll take more of your calls on the other side here on the Brian Kilmead Show. From the Fox News Radio Studios in Midtown Manhattan, it's the fastest growing radio talk show. Brian Kilmead. Hey, welcome to the Brian Kilmead Show.

I am Mary Walter, sitting in for Brian Kilmead. You can get a hold of me on the socials at Mary Walter Radio on X. Again, Mary Walter Radio, no S. And you can just tag me in a post if you cannot join us at 866-408-7669. All right, so let's head to California, shall we?

Because California right now has the most exciting races for governor and for a mayor of Los Angeles, right? Mayor of the Mayor of LA race is obviously the best, but the gubernatorial Race also is super interesting because you've got Hot Potatoes Porter, and you've got a guy who's a Democrat who's been endorsed by this Democratic Socialist who's a billionaire.

So there's just a lot going on. Katie Porter, by the way, Democrats love to run crazy women. I'm sorry, and ladies. You do kind of have the corner on Crazy Town.

Sorry, but it's all women who are out there with the bug eyes, like really big eyes and badly cut hair. Like they cut it with a weed whacker and dyed weird colors, and you're letting your freak flag fly all the time. And no one would ever call you a lady, so you don't have to worry about that. But it is women. And Katie Porter is just got the looks.

She's got the big eyes going on, like the woohoo, I'm crazy eyes. And, you know, she's mean. And Democrats love to run women like that. I don't know why, but they can't shake the image that their men, that their women are more masculine than their men, that the women are more alpha than the men are. And she's one of them.

She comes across as like, woohoo, large march in charge. You know, she that's how she comes across. Like, she's going to kick your butt. Whereas the men on the Democrat side tend to be soy boys. You know, Tim Keynes.

And then they try to become masculine, and it's really super uncomfortable for everybody watching. But they haven't learned from that yet. Sharon Casey just hit me up on X and said they're violent and crazy. Yeah. Yeah, and I don't which came first.

I don't know if they were violent and the craziness just let it come out, or if they were crazy and became violent because of that.

So. So, California's Democratic Socialists, as I said, have made their pick for governor. They threw their weight behind the billionaire Tom Steyer.

Now, think about that for a hot second. All right.

Why would the Democratic Socialists throw their weight behind the billionaire who they don't like? But they did. They wrote in their voter guide, Even if he glibly considers himself a class traitor, his wealth was earned through the exploitation of the working class. Much of his wealth was also invested in private prisons and coal mining, accumulated by the same things he now decries.

However, The most progressive of the current viable candidates for governor is Tom Steyer. Time will tell whether he's truly a class trader.

So they're banking on him because he's like the farthest to the left. He's positioning himself the farthest to the left.

So, like, okay, he's our guy. Even though he is everything we rail against, he's our guy. He's worth over two billion. He spent well over a hundred million on his bid for governor. And he's trailing slightly trailing Javier Becera, who's the front runner because of name recognition.

Who are we kidding? Exactly. Remember, didn't uh what did Joe Biden call him? Javier Baccaria. Remember Joe Finn didn't know his name, Javier Baccaria?

I was like, oh, Joe. Yeah, there was that. But they cited his support for trans women competing in sports and his disavowal of the American Israeli Public Affairs Committee.

So they do love themselves a good anti-Semite. They love that.

So so they they were like, well, you look. And you know what? He's got money, but he'll be our guy with money, so then the money won't be so evil because he'll be our guy with the money. Yeah. Now, let's go to the race.

Everybody loves the mayoral race. The mayoral race of LA and Spencer. Pratt.

Now, we were just talking about Vegas and things that are, you know, just have just become normalized. Democrats have normalized everywhere. Have you noticed that? It's the Democrats normalizing the abnormal, right? They're the ones who are pushing for weed shops everywhere.

And it's okay if women parade down the street with their breasts hanging out and the men can be butt naked as long as it's for pride. And it's okay if there are children there because they should learn early. You know, we've got to indoctrinate them early. It's all Democrats.

So here goes Spencer Pratt, who's like, wait a minute. He's the one who's going, y'all are crazy. You know that. You people have lost your minds.

Now, Some of these ads that are running for him are phenomenal. And he's not even making them. Do you know he doesn't even have a campaign manager? He doesn't even have a campaign manager. It's just Spencer Pratt speaking truth to power.

And they don't know what to do because they haven't had a candidate running for mayor of LA in a really, really long time who actually told the truth.

Now, he was on a podcast, and he was asked. about you know, he he was talking about the podcast and like excuse me, they were talking about the debate and saying how well versed he was. He had his facts, he knew everything. And asked him, you know, how come it is you know so much About everything. Why are you so well versed?

And this was David Friedberg on the All-In Podcast. And here's his response to. how he was so able to be so well prepared for the debate. A lot of people said they weren't expecting such a great performance. Like you were so well prepped, so well versed on a lot of the facts, on the actions you were going to take.

How did you get ready? for the debate. Get after this. People argue with me all day long in every single media hit that I've done for months because they don't want me to get into the machine.

So every interview I do, unlike these politicians. It's opposition. It's arguing, arguing, arguing. When these Mayor Bass or Councilman Rahman talk to the media, they can just lie, and then the media people go, Oh, thank you, thank you, Mayor Bass. Thank you, Councilman.

If I say anything, I gotta have who was there, what they were wearing, what they have for breakfast. I have to have my information so fact-based and be bulletproof to beat this machine that. I debate. All I do is debate people all day long. You're held to a higher standard.

Exactly. I'm challenged all day. And all I live in is facts and the truth. And so I called my lawyer who's representing me in the case against the city and the state, an LADWP, one of the most famous lawyers in the world. I said, I said, Peter, how do you stay so calm when you're arguing with these lawyers?

And he said, Spencer, I always have the truth. I was like, ooh, I was like, okay, I got that. Good stress. Yeah, so that was a great. Just message I took into that.

Yeah, I always have the truth. And he's right because he is not playing the game, because he's not part of the Democrat machine, he knows that the media is going to come after him. He doesn't have to have he has to have the facts, whereas they don't have to have the facts. They could just say whatever, and the media is going to go woohoo and just run with it and never challenge them. Yeah.

So, um Good for him. I mean, here comes this guy, and everybody was, you know, was. Belittling him because I'm just a reality star.

Well, you know who else was a reality star? Donald Trump. I mean, yes, he had a big name before The Apprentice. And Spencer Pratt was nobody before the Hills, but They're both reality stars.

So it's kind of refreshing that he's not a politician. I want to go to this too. He was on the same podcast, The All-In Podcast. And to that point about being a politician versus not being a politician and both running and how they come at it from different sides for Spencer Pratt. I keep trying to tell everyone that they try to put me in a box.

I didn't run to be a political party. I didn't run to be a politician. I ran because I experienced what city leadership failure at the ultimate level is. That's why I stepped up. That's what cuts through.

So the media and everyone wants to jump on and be like, oh, Spencer's our guy. No, I'm the citizen. I'm the angry taxpayer. You can be a Democrat and love me. You can be a Republican and love me.

The only people that don't love me are communists and socialists, and I don't want them to love me. And the Democrats can't move far enough left quickly enough to get the Democrats and to get the socialists and the communists to love them. And then you got a lot of people who are like, wait a minute. This is not right. I think there's a lot of people who feel that we've normalized so much abnormal behavior that now we're the crazy ones because we're not rampaging through Walmart screaming and yelling because they didn't have a product we wanted, right?

Like, we're not the ones in the parking lot getting in a fight with someone over a parking space. We're not the ones who are betting money that we don't have on our cell phones, you know, through a betting app. We're not the ones who are. You know, spending hours and hours consuming porn, half of it AI-generated, not even real. And I go back to that.

This is why Vegas is going under because A, they got super expensive. But B, what do they provide that's now provocative? What do they provide that makes anyone want to go there other than a theme hotel? What's there? Disney at least has characters for your kids.

But what's there? When What used to be a vice, what used to be a sin, what used to be a little naughty. and people go to Vegas for. is so readily available everywhere. And I tie it in with what's happening in California because they say as California goes, so goes the country.

And I wonder if that's what it is. California, weed was like All over the place way back when.

Now it's across the country. You know, the porn industry, California, now it's across the country, it's on your phone. And now, maybe Spencer Pratt is the harbinger of a swing back to normal that will make its way across the country.

So if you want to jump in, 866-408-7669 is my number, or you can tag me and post on X at Mary Walter Radio. Your call is coming up on the Brian Kilmead show. Where big stories meet bigger conversations. Stay informed and energized with the Brian Killmeat Show. From his mouth to your ears, it's Brian Kilmead.

All right, welcome back to the Brian Kimmade Show, 866-40-87669. Talking about a combination of topics that just kind of like dovetail together beautifully. Las Vegas dying, and you know, part of that is because the government's realized that they can monetize sin, what used to be sinful, porn and weed, and um. It's gambling that they could, they can monetize those three things, they can tax the hell out of them.

So, the government has just very quietly said, okay, that's fine. And so now it's everywhere. You've got apps for all this stuff. The porn half of its AI, nobody cares, doesn't matter. And you can sit there and watch it all day on your phone at work, wherever.

So we've normalized that. And I personally think that comes into play in society in general, that we have normalized certain behaviors. We don't arrest people for certain things. We allowed crowds of masked people carrying Palestinian flags to march through Jewish neighborhoods in New York and then try to get into a temple to assault them at worship in their temple. And nobody gets arrested.

And if they do, the charges get dropped.

So this normalization of deviance, I think, is spreading. And it goes from California, so goes the nation. Spencer Pratt walks in and is like, wait, common sense going, wait, this doesn't make any sense. Why are we doing this? And suddenly people are like, whoa, what a rising young star.

Is it changing? I want to get your take on this. 866-40-87669. Let's go to Florida and talk to Bob. Welcome.

You're on the Brian Killmead Show, Bob. Hi. So, my concern with all of this is you're talking about getting a return to normal, but really, in this sense, a return to normal is just a restriction of personal freedom.

Now, yes, there are some things that some people do that are not okay. Your example of marching through Jewish neighborhoods with Palestinian flags, not okay. But other things, smoking weed, watching porn, things like that, those are personal choices that people should be free to make in their own lives. And putting government restrictions on that, returning, as you say, to normal, is just making it so that people have less choices and less options in their day-to-day lives. This is supposed to be America.

You can do what you want, even if it's bad for you. Yeah, I don't have a problem with that. I truly don't have a problem with that.

However, have you walked through Manhattan when it comes to weed? It's not my choice to get a contact high. Yet, if you stay on the streets long enough, you will get one because it is so pervasive. My clothes will reek of marijuana when I get home. It's horrible.

So it's no different to me than smoking back in the day, cigarettes. I don't want to have to walk through that smoke when I exit the building. I don't have to, because all the smokers are out there puffing away. I don't want to inhale it. I shouldn't have to.

So now their choice is infringing on my personal choices. As gambling, listen, porn we know can be addictive, and people reporting a little bit of an addiction going up. People who are spending more money than they have on gambling going up. That's their choice. But you know who has to bail them out when they can't pay the mortgage and they have no place to live or they can't afford health care or they lose their job?

Me.

So, I'm all for letting people do their thing as long as they have and they alone are responsible for the consequences of it. Then I don't have a problem. But we live in a community.

Well, but then you cannot just live without supporting others. That doesn't work.

Well, but wait. But then, if I have to support them, do I not have a say in what they do? No. Well, then you can't tell me I have to support them. You can't tell me I made a horrible decision because I get the right to make horrible decisions, but you have to pay for the consequences of my horrible decisions.

That ain't how it works.

Well, but that is how it works. No, then be responsible. You can have rights without responsibility. You just can't. They don't work well together.

It's like free health care and open borders. It doesn't work. If you want to be an adult and you want to do adult things, then you also have adult consequences. That's how it works.

So, I'm all for letting your freak fly fly as long as I don't have to smell your marijuana when I'm walking down the street. I don't have to come home smelling like marijuana. I don't have to pay for the consequences of you betting more than you have because you overextended yourself. I don't want to pay for the consequences of that. If you want to make adult choices, you have adult consequences, and that's the problem in this country.

We try to separate them out. No, I'm not responsible for your bad choices. You are. But interesting conversation, Bob. Thank you so much.

Very quickly, Brian in Virginia. I've got about a minute here, a minute and a half. Brian, welcome to the Brian. Can we show? Hi.

Take that. Hi, thank you for today, McCall. Doing a great job filling in for Brian. I think the nail in the coffin for Vegas is the sports book betting, where that was Vegas was really the only primary place that you could do it, and now that it's gotten proliferated, you can do it anywhere. Therefore, why go to Vegas when I can just do it from my phone?

That was all. Yeah, no, and Vegas really should, I would think, would adapt and provide something other than a theme hotel when I get there, right? Like, other than I can get in a gondola and ride through a canal. Like, why am I going to Vegas for that? They should adapt.

They should. Their prices have gotten outrageous. They've taken away since COVID. A lot of the things that drew people to Vegas, like the buffets, the food, and the shows, have all gotten mixed since COVID. But that's a secondary, third-order effect.

Interesting. Thank you so much. I appreciate that, Brian. Isotope's fan reached out to me on X and said, Vegas just posted one of its most successful months ever. I can assure you, Vegas is not dead.

Interesting. All right.

So maybe Vegas is not dead. We'll continue this, but we are going to speak to Lieutenant Colonel Scott Mann coming up. He was one of the organizers and also conducted the Task Force Pineapple. Remember that? Getting people out?

And so, anyway, we'll talk to him about that. He is also the author of Generosity of Scars: How Your Stories of Struggle Can Change Lives, Especially Your Own. Oh, so maybe if you. Overextend yourself, betting money you don't have, then maybe that struggle will help you make better choices down the road and change your life. Joe reached out on X and says, Adult choices, adult choices cause adult consequences.

You absolutely nailed it. Yeah. But in his, and Bob was the caller, and I appreciate him for bringing that up. But did you notice he's like, no, you live in a community. I saw how the community is not just there to pick you up while you tell the community you can do whatever you want, and then they pick up.

The mess of your life after you screwed it up. It's all coming up on the Brian Kilmead Show. A talk show that's real. This is the Brian Kill Me Show. No.

Welcome back to the Brian Kilmead Show. Mary Walter sitting in for Brian. Joining us. Oh, nope, we're waiting for him.

Okay, he'll be coming up soon here. Oh, he's ready. Oh, I didn't even see him there.

Okay. He's here, Lieutenant Colonel Scott Mann. He's a retired Green Beret.

Now, he was one of the forces behind Operation Task Force Pineapple. Remember that? Where they were getting people out of Afghanistan after that botched withdrawal. He is also the author of The Generosity of Scars: How Your Stories of Struggle Can Change Lives, Especially Your Own. Super interesting considering what we were just talking about.

Sir, thank you for joining me here on the Brian Kilmead Show. Yeah. Hey, Mary. Thanks for having me on. That was a really interesting segment.

And yeah, well said.

So let's just jump into it.

So you heard that guy, Bob, right? Right. And he was saying, well, no, you live in a community.

So they want to make adult decisions, but then that, like children, they want to be rescued from the consequences of those tough decisions. And your book. The generosity of scars. You talk about struggle and how you learn. Like you may go through a really, really hard time, but when you come out the other side of it and you're all battle beaten up, you've learned some valuable lessons that can help then shape the rest of your life and make you a better person.

And so maybe, is that one of the reasons why? As I was listening to him, I was like, okay, so is that one of the reasons why? Because we take that away, right? Like we have an entire generation that grew up without consequences because mommy and daddy paved the way. Is that what we're seeing now where they just want to riot and scream and yell and tear things down and know there will be no consequences?

Yeah, you know, I think that's a really interesting point. I mean, I'm coming at this both as a combat veteran, but also as a recovering alcoholic. And, you know, I made some big boy choices when I was drinking that had big boy consequences. And I think that's absolutely spot on, is that even with addiction and things like that. Those choices that we make certainly come with the consequences.

But here's the thing also, is that a lot of those struggles that I went through, and I learned this in coming home from a couple of tours in Afghanistan, was that a lot of times the stuff that scuffs us up, Mary, the stuff that's really hard, the stuff we don't want to tell other people, the stuff we don't want to tell ourselves, as long as we're willing to take personal responsibility for those and live into them, those are the most powerful stories we can tell. Our kids, our young people, our new associates at work, even veterans coming home from war, they've got so much to offer, but it's usually in the struggles and the stories that go around them that really have the best impact. And we've just drummed that out of modern society. You're right. I mean, it's like it's just absent.

Yeah, and so what does that do to us as a society though? Can a society survive? I'm not good with my S's today. Can a society survive with people Not having that struggle, which is part of human nature. It's always a struggle, right?

You always have things thrown in your way, and that's what you do. You adapt and you grow. That's what humans do. Animals do it too. How does that survive?

Can we? I think I really worry about it because, you know, as a former Green Beret, one of the things I spent a lot of time on was studying human civil society and how we navigate the world. And, you know, storytelling is not a kumbaya thing. It's what our brain is actually wired for story. And this is what Walt Benjamin says.

I put this at the conclusion of my book, but he says, the art of storytelling is coming to an end. It is as if something that seemed inalienable to us, the securest among our possessions, were taken from us, the ability to exchange experiences. One reason for this phenomenon is obvious. Experience has fallen in value, and it looks as if it is continuing to fall into bottomlessness. And I think that's what you're talking about: we have devalued experience and, yes, the struggle that goes with it and making it okay for our kids as helicopter parents and everything else in the world to where struggle isn't even part of our lexicon anymore.

And that is a very, very dangerous proposition because it's frankly the most universal thing that we have in our lives. And it goes to me, it goes a little farther than just the struggle. It's also. It this idea of Everything being on our phone, nobody talks to each other. There's no communication, right?

Everybody's in their own little world.

So everybody thinks that their experience, what they're going through right now, is far more important than what anybody else has done.

So you don't learn from other people's experiences as well. You talk about stories. Nobody wants to hear your story because they think their story is far better than yours. And I tell people all the time, I conducted this little experiment for Lent one year. I gave up interrupting.

Like I try to be super mindful of interrupting. And it was hard because you don't realize how much you interrupt. And 40 days of being mindful of not interrupting, you become wildly mindful of how much other people interrupt. And they will interrupt you in the middle of a story because they either find it not interesting or they have something far more important to tell you because we're so self-centered now. Mm.

Yeah, so to me, that plays into all of this. It's the me, me, me, me, me. I'm in my own little world, everything is on my phone. Yeah, um, I don't need to hear your story, and it's all about me and my life, except. When they need to be bailed out, and then they demanded that everyone help them, right?

Yeah, and it's a skill set. You know, I had these amazing Green Beret Sergeants, Mary, that like Bill Cernowski and Brian Ader that taught me in some of the roughest places on earth. Where you go into these places, and a lot of times, you know what? When you're sitting across from that elder that's got his brow furrowed at you, and he's got an AK-47 to his right, a cup of green tea to his left, and you're hoping, like, hell, he picks up that green tea, right? And the way that you do that and that you build trust in that very trust-depleted environment is it's not the stories you tell.

It's not like, hey, I'm from the government. How do you like me so far? Right? It is the stories you ask to hear, thoughtful, open-ended questions that let the other party respond in story. And I think that is, we have completely lost that in this society today: the ability to ask questions and exchange stories with one another.

You know, even if somebody has a different, you know, like the last exchange that you just did with that individual, I think, was a good example of how we can use narrative in real time to engage. And we've lost that skill. You're right, it's become performative. In these dopamine dispensers that we carry around with us. And we've really lost that communications acumen.

And I think that that's why I wrote the book: to hopefully bring storytelling back into the forefront of how we navigate the world because we need it. Yeah, someone needs to tell them they're not the most important people in the world. The world does not revolve around them. And I'm at that age now, I'm getting to that age where I'm like, I'm going to be the one to tell you because I just don't care anymore. It's a very freeing feeling.

Everybody told me it was going to happen, and I was like, nah. And now I'm like here. And I'm like, oh, they were so right. I don't care. This is fantastic.

I just want to very quickly touch on what became known as Pineapple Express. I think everybody knows the story. I think it's super interesting. But my question to you is: how many people are still there? Oh my gosh, tens of thousands.

And Brian and I have talked about this a lot. I mean, there's probably 30,000 Afghan commandos alone that were left behind. And what that has done, Mary, to an entire generation. I know we're focused on Iran right now, but let's not forget we're coming up on the 25th anniversary of 9-11. the fifth anniversary of the botched withdrawal, and it has decimated an entire generation of U.S.

special operators and veterans who were taught by, with, and through, shoulder to shoulder. And then we betrayed that value in less than 72 hours. And you've had veterans up till this day that have been paying for safe houses, for babies to be born. cashed in their 401ks. That's why I wrote Pineapple Express.

Right now, we're actually, I'm doing a one-man play that's touring the country where I play 24 characters from Pineapple Express. And I tell the story about that 11-day withdrawal. It's called 11 Days. And it's amazing the number of people that come up to me after the show and they're like, I had no idea that was the impact on our veteran population. I mean, I've lost friends to suicide since Abby Gate because of Abby Gate.

God, it's just so insanely sad. How do people find that play if they want to see it? Where do they go? Yeah, if you go to TF, that's TangoFoxtrot, TFpineapple.org, you can see all of our tour dates there. We're going to be in New Jersey on the anniversary of Addie Gate on August 26th, and it's really growing.

A lot of people are coming out to see this. I hope we do a talk back after every show. Come support this play because it's a story that I guarantee you have not heard anywhere else, and it needs to be told because our veterans and their families and our Afghan allies deserve it. Where are you going to be in New Jersey on the 26th? Carteret, in Carteret, New Jersey.

Yep. And it's so cool because we've got all these different sponsors, Mary, including the Special Forces Association. And we're doing it in honor of the families of the 13 Fallen from Abbey Gate and those that stood on the wall that day. It is going to be an emotionally powerful event. I perform it myself.

And once you see this show, you'll never be the same. T F Tango Foxtrot, look at me, pineapple dot org, go check it out.

Now speaking of we betrayed we betrayed so many people with that Afghanistan quote unquote withdrawal. It was really a retreat. President Trump said that That he, you know, he wants the people in Iran to go out on the streets, but he said they have no weapons. They have no guns. We thought the Kurds were going to give them weapons, but the Kurds disappointed us.

The Kurds take, take, take. I'm very disappointed with the Kurds. In April, he had said that the U.S. had sent weapons to the Iranian people via the Kurds, and the Kurds were supposed to distribute them, but it looks like the Kurds just kept them. Is this because we screwed the Kurds over badly under the Clinton administration?

So they're like, we don't trust you at all. We're keeping the weapons.

Well, thank you for saying that. I think personally, we've screwed the Kurds over under multiple administrations, including this one. I don't think that our habit of sustaining our allies is stellar in any presidential administration. And I'm saying that as a pretty apolitical combat veteran that served under both, and I'm just shooting it down the middle as best I can. I think the Kurds, we have bailed on them more times than we can count.

And I think to expect them to carry the load as a surrogate force in Iran is diluted unless something changes. And I'm sorry, but the other piece of this is, too, we have a multi-generation. Habit, Mary, of abandoning, of wholesale abandonment of our allies that goes all the way back to the Montanards in Vietnam. And at some point, just like you were talking about big boy choices, big girl choices, big boy, big girl consequences. And when you bail on your allies for 50 straight years, you reap what you sow, and we're seeing it now.

Yeah, and that's part of the problem. And also, look at Pakistan. Pakistan, we're now finding out, according to CBS News, they're reporting that Pakistan allowed Iranian military aircraft to park on their airfields while serving as the diplomatic conduit between Tehran and Washington. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. We're going to help you out.

In the meantime, behind Washington's back, they're telling Tehran: no, put them over there, put them over there. They sent multiple aircraft to Noor Khan Air Base, including an Iranian Air Force RC-130 reconnaissance and intel gathering aircraft. And they also, a senior Pakistani official said, oh, no, we didn't do that. We didn't do that. You would notice if they were on the tarmac there.

No, they're nothing to see here. But also, they said some civilian aircraft were sent to Afghanistan. Is there anyone we can trust, or are they all trying to undermine America? Is that the goal? I think that's, you just said it, but I think, look, you know, we need to step back and look at Pakistan, has been duplicitous.

All the way back to when we were trying to get the Soviets out of Afghanistan. They were fomenting instability and supporting a young Osama bin Laden and Haqqani and a range of others. We just need to look, you know, as long as we're dealing with Pakistan, Iran, the Taliban, they are never going to be responsible partners. They're always going to conspire overtly and covertly to bring the United States down. And we've got to be very, very careful on the level of trust that we give them in any diplomatic negotiations because they're not going to play it straight.

And we should never, ever assume that they're going to be a responsible negotiating partner. You only have to look at their track record, and that doesn't matter what administration is sitting in the seat or how good a deal maker you are. Pakistan is Pakistan. They're never going to change in how they deal with the United States. Trevor Burrus, Jr.: And it doesn't make sense to me because they're so close to Iran.

If Iran has a nuclear weapon, does Pakistan honestly think that if they bomb India, that it's not going to hurt them? 100%. And again, we have to understand that these. Nation states and these independent actors like al-Qaeda and ISIS and the Taliban, they're going to conspire against us and set their differences aside with these other nation states to mobilize against us surreptitiously from the inside out and overtly. And we just need to know that.

And we've got to be very, very careful about how much power we give them in a negotiation. Certainly, as a moderator between Iran and the United States, I wouldn't trust them as far as I could throw them.

Okay, why? Why do they want to, why would they risk their own lives just to see America get screwed over? Trevor Burrus: Well, first of all, I mean, Pakistan's interest in, I mean, you have a very, very strong extremist, Islamist point of view that is part of their ISI, their intelligence apparatus that is constantly influencing things. And let's not forget that they have, you know, that their stability of Afghanistan actually poses a threat to their landmass in the In the Pashtun territories, right along the Pakistan-Afghanistan border, with India on the other side and a stable Afghanistan on the other side, I mean, they could stand to lose a lot of terrain.

So, pretty much anything that's in the U.S. interest is going to run counter to them. But the biggest thing that I look at with Pakistan is they have such an Islamist, extremist influence in their ISI that that is always going to permeate. Even what they say to our face, even with Musharraf, when he was talking, you know, he overtly seemed to be a very supportive guy during the Global War on Terror. The Islamist influence through the ISI was constantly creating subterfuge with what he was trying to do.

Yeah, it's very, it's just so interesting. And I think that President Trump's like, wait a minute, you would take a chance on being nuked. Just to screw over America. It doesn't make sense to rational people, but it's not either as rational people think. Exactly.

One more question, one more question, and I'll let you go. Because I know you've had somewhat of a long day.

So. How what's the blowback going to be on President Trump if he decides to send troops in, for instance, to take Carg Island? Yes, it's going to be tough. I've been saying this all along. And again, this is You know, this is regardless of the administration.

Anytime you put troops on the ground in a scenario like Iran, Iraq, Afghanistan, you know, you almost immediately face that occupier narrative that can be mobilized against you very rapidly, particularly if you've been adamant about ending wars in that part of the country, the world, and you've tried to do everything through air power and surgical strike, which was the right move. I mean, to try to bring them to capitulation there. But they understand the game. They have a lot of depth and redundancy. They know that really to bring them to capitulation, it's going to take boots on the ground.

And with the midterms coming up, it is going to be a tough slog for this administration. And I do hope that we can get some surrogates. I do hope the Iranian people will stand up, even if it's us providing external support to them and maybe special forces advisors or something like that. We need to see an indirect approach in that country. In my assessment, Karg Island might be an exception with unilateral forces because it's strategic.

But overall, if we have to do something on the ground in Iran, I really hope it's with surrogate forces and not a large unilateral presence because that's going to be cost. I guess we can't count on the Kurds for that. That is for Don Darn sure. And President Trump has to get the gas prices down by like 4th of July.

So he's got some pressure on him here. But I have full faith that he is far smarter than I, and he can handle it and doesn't need my opinion. Yeah, so much speculation around this right now. One thing I would just end on is this: let's not forget as we go into the summer, Mary, 25th anniversary of 9-11, fifth anniversary of the Afghanistan withdrawal. While we're focused on Iran, 1.8 million Global War on Terror veterans that are really feeling it this summer.

Mental health is spiking for those individuals. Let's keep an eye on our veterans that fought the last war. Let's keep an eye on checking on them, make sure they're doing okay. And let's help them tell their stories of struggle because that's really how we bring them home and it's how we learn lessons for Iran and other things. Let's listen to the veterans that just fought the last one.

Yeah, absolutely. Lieutenant Colonel Scott Mann, you can find out where. The play is going to be at T F. Tango Foxtrot Pineapple.org. Check it out.

And the book is called The Generosity of Scars: How Your Stories of Struggle Can Change Lives, Especially Your Own. Maybe you know someone who could benefit from this book and maybe help them out a little bit. And sounds like something interesting that maybe helps them see, hey, you're not alone. A lot of people struggle. We all struggle.

And this is perfect. Lieutenant Colonel Scott Man, thank you so much for joining me. Have a wonderful week. Mary, thanks so much. 866-40-87669.

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