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Jonathan Albert wrote about it, and he also has a brand new book. He's a psychotherapist: A Therapy Nation: How America Got Hooked on Therapy and Why It's Left Us More Anxious and Divided.
So I thought. When I saw the title, I thought I was looking at a book that talks about how Uh people are w looking to people who are going to therapy too young and trying to identify normal things that life life brings and uh and overreacting to it and trying to So the book is actually a little bit different in that Jonathan, if you're wrestling with your headsets in a way I've never seen before, the book's a little different in that you say these therapists are almost like the college professors working to push a political agenda you're finding out. Oh, absolutely. There's an agenda, and no longer are grad students learning how to become therapists. They're learning how to become social justice warriors.
And that's part of the problem that we're seeing. My profession is just riddled with people who are looking to get out there and get their agenda out there, and they're not really looking to treat mental health disorders like we're supposed to do.
So here is Carol Ann Levitt on some of the rhetoric that we're hearing because you said in therapy, they're actually treating TDS.
Well, I think you heard it directly from the President on Saturday night, Aisha, that in his words, we need to recommit ourselves as a country to toning down the rhetoric and to unifying around what makes our country great. That's true of everyone who works in this White House, but as I said, it's also true of everyone who has a voice and a platform across this country, whether you're on television, a podcast host, you know, people listen. And when you have mentally disturbed individuals across the country who are listening to this crazed rhetoric about the president day after day after day, it inspires them to do crazy things.
Now, she's not a therapist. She's a press secretary. Does she sound um does it sound like something you would say? No, not at all. I mean, we have such an epidemic in this country.
And my profession really needs to get a hold of it. We have people on mainstream media that are telling people to cut out people if you don't like how they voted. I know people in my profession who refuse to treat someone if they voted for Trump. And imagine someone going into an ER with a medical emergency and the doctor saying, no, I can't treat you. I mean, it's just unimaginable, but it's happening in my profession.
So that is Do you believe that People are getting radicalized by what they hear on television and what they see on social media. And, you know, people say TDS is different. But we heard Bush derangement syndrome, we heard Obama derangement syndrome, we've heard Clinton derangement syndrome, now it's Trump.
So I'm thinking to myself, what's the big difference with this? Is there a difference?
Well, it's been around for a few decades, as you suggested. But the difference is people are actually acting on it now. I've had plenty of patients who disliked Biden or Harris, but never did it rise to the place where they wanted those people killed. They would just express, I don't like them, I don't agree with their policy, I can't stand them. But what we have with some of the radical left is we have people who actually are consumed by Trump.
They want him dead. I've even had people who can't take a vacation because they're so consumed by thoughts of Trump.
So, what do you say to them?
Well, I give it my best to try to look at things logically, deal with their irrational thinking, challenge them a bit.
Some people are open to it.
Some people actually improve. Other people end up firing me. They say, you're a Trumper. You're a moderate. I can't deal with you.
And they go and find a therapist that aligns with their view. How much is it there? An inordinate opinion theory about the role a president plays in their lives. I mean, there's an excellent chance, even though Trump's everywhere and he's on, you could still live your life. You're picking up your kids, you're going to work.
It's not really affecting you substantially. There were a time when I didn't know through my youth who my friends' family voted for. I didn't know who my friends voted for in their 20s and 30s.
Now everybody knows who everybody voted for. What happened?
Well, part of it is we have a 24-7 news cycle. We have social media. But the other part is these people are just hyper-fixated and hyper-focused on Trump, the figure. And frankly, it just takes up way too much space in their head. And they need to focus on other things, whether it's work, family, friends, hobbies.
But they don't. And I would. Suggest that they go and do that. And my opinion is that maybe people on the right, they might be into politics, but they also value family, their careers, friends, hobbies, much more so than those on the left. I want you to give me an example.
I mean, I watched some people get so angry about him. Oh, I didn't vote for him. I can't believe he won. I can't believe he did this. I can't believe he's mad at Germany.
I can't believe he did this war. All right. But then there's people who the minute he jumped on the scene lost their minds. Bruce Springsteen now And Robert De Niro from day one. I can't figure him out.
Listen to him. The bottom line is that I feel betrayed by my country. Damn right. It doesn't have to be perfect, but it does need to return to the values that gave us our strength and humanity. If you want our leaders to be accountable, If you're devoted to the Constitution and the rule of law, if you want the United States of America to be worthy of your love, be ready to take to the streets together, and we will take our country back.
What does that mean?
Well, I'd love to know how De Niro's life has been impacted by Trump. Zero. Zero. I think he has a pretty good career. He's pretty wealthy.
I'm not so sure his life has been negatively impacted. Why is this playing out? Like, why is this? These people, they love to utilize their platform, whether it's speaking. Right?
He's 80. He's 80 years old. And he got a Lifetime Achievement Award, didn't even talk about acting.
So when you see that, if you were his therapist, what would you say to him?
Well, I would challenge De Niro. I would try to understand, you know, why is this so important to you? Where's some actual evidence of how your life has been impacted or how Trump has, in his mind, ruined this country? And I would challenge him and try to get him to produce some evidence for that. And I think we'd come up empty.
Right.
So are you seeing this in one-on-ones? Oh, absolutely. I would say close to three-quarters of my patients. And I see patients from New York to D.C. Are you worried that a lot of these conversations go from that to I'm going to be an assassin, like the one we had last Saturday?
Like the one with crooks on the roof of that building? Like the guy that killed Carl Charlie Kirk?
Well, thankfully, I don't see people who get to that level and I'm able to help them. But I do think generally across our country, it's way too fast to rationalize bad behavior. And, you know, we have people who are endorsing microlooting. It's okay to go and shoplift. It's justified.
Hassan Piker. Exactly. Exactly. Exactly. So, how do you get that?
The resentment? In fact, if we could pull that up, I'm not going to kill you. You already pulled up a bunch of stuff. But Hassan Piker coming out talking about why would we not kill a CEO of a healthcare company? After all, they've basically passively, aggressively killed other people.
So, listen to this. Brian Thompson, as the United Healthcare CEO. was engaging in a tremendous amount of social murder. The systematized forms of violence, the structural violence of poverty, the for profit paywalled System of health care in this country, and the consequences of that are. tremendous amounts of pain, tremendous amounts of violence, tremendous amounts of deaths.
And that was a fascinating story from for me because America is very draconian about Crime and punishment. They're very black and white on this issue. And yet, because of the pervasive pain. That the private health care system. had created for the average American I saw so many people.
immediately understand Why this death had taken place.
So, Luigi Bangioni kills Brian Thompson, the CEO of a healthcare company, and this guy, Hassan Piker, with millions of followers. Understands it. What do you say? What's his rationale? What would you say?
Yeah, and look how idiotic that thinking is. Because they think healthcare companies kill people, they go and justify killing someone. And I would ask them: well, what changes have occurred since this murder of Brian Thompson? Absolutely none. The only changes that we've seen is better security among CEOs at major companies.
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I'm spelling it out in case you're a little slow like me.
So But Luigi Mangioni, how do you explain the fact that you got two rows of people who are fans of the murderer who was not famous before? was insignificant, wallowing in Hawaii, trying to find a career. And he becomes an assassin. By the way, rich family. A folk hero.
And there's even a musical opening here in New York about him. And it just shows you how disturbed much of our country is when they're praising an alleged killer, and that's the person that they worship.
So it just shows you how disturbed our country is. And, you know, you have people like AOC, you have people like Cynthia Nixon that justify small crimes. And I would argue that that type of rhetoric out there leads to bigger problems that we're seeing in society. Trevor Burrus, Jr.: So, James Carville, 110 years old, looks like, yeah, I'm not sure if he's drinking when he says stuff like this, but here's an example of how he views Trump.
Now, let's say he's getting some, some people are impressionable. They hear that Carville helped Clinton win twice, and they hear this. I've called Trump. JMF word, and I've called him worse than that, and I've called him Osiris Zach. Rodd, who is Vance's spiritual mentor, and Tucker Carlson, who is a person of some substance in the Republican Party, have both called Trump the Antichrist.
Well, even I haven't gotten there.
So please, all of the people that faint in the street. About my name, Colin. Understand this. I have not yet referred to Donald John Trump as the Antichrist. All right.
Because I I think the Antichrist would be smarter than him.
So if I'm listening to that. That is that you're saying I don't hear that when Clinton was in office, Bush was in office, I didn't hear that when Obama was in office. Yeah, I didn't either. And now you have someone that was deeply aligned with the Democratic Party who's putting this rhetoric out there. And if he is 80 or 110 years old, the fact that he's so consumed by hatred towards Trump is concerning.
You would think you'd have a perspective. You wouldn't be overreacting like this. Yeah, you would think so. And one of the things that I try to talk to my patients about when they talk about disappointment that the shooter missed. Is I urge them to look at history and look at what happens to a country when a leader, whether it's Kirk or president, is assassinated.
And they don't understand it. And with someone like Carvell, you would think that he would be able to have that perspective and look at the history of this country. But they don't because they're so hyper-focused on Trump, the figure, and their hatred for Trump. His name is Jonathan Albert. His book is Therapy Nation: How America Got Hooked on Therapy and Why It Left Us More Anxious and Divided.
He also wrote a column in the Wall Street Journal, Trump Derangement Syndrome, Real with a question mark. Can you say it is real?
Well, what I can say is it's not real yet, but as a therapist, some of the symptoms that I'm seeing are deeply concerning. And I even went on to call it the defining pathology of the decade. We have people that are hyper-obsessed with Trump. They're so anxious they can't even take a vacation. They're kept up at night focusing on Trump.
They're physically sick because of Trump. To me, that's a real pathology. And lastly, people in your profession are making it worse. How? Oh, people in my profession, they refuse to treat someone if they voted for Trump.
They're telling people, if you don't like the way someone, vote it, just cut them out of your life. My profession is part of the problem. And we need to get back to a time where there's unity in this country, like we saw after Reagan was shot. Right.
And politics, dare I say, it kind of gets my profession, but politics should matter less in your life. Oh, I totally agree with you. Friends, family. Partners, these should all be more important than politics. See, I get it.
For example, your team wins, you feel the euphoria. Princess Diana dies, you never met her, but you feel the sadness. I understand it. But you look at Trump Tay, he's in at the villages and he's signing an investment an investment plan to help people retire, whether it's the Trump accounts or whether it's I'm going to be talking about the Live Golf Tour. He's on all the time.
But your life should not be about him. Even if you voted for him.
So, what is it about? Have you figured? You might not have figured out. What is it about him?
Well, I think part of the problem is Trump was a successful businessman, brash businessman, entertainer, and he was never someone who was supposed to be president. And he came through the system and obliterated the competition. And I think some people just never could. Accept that and reconcile that. And they still can't.
They just cannot believe that someone like him became president. I've long said that Trump could go on and cure cancer and people would still find a reason to hate him. Right.
And when your book comes out on May 19th, what do you want people to take away from it?
Well, I want people to understand that therapy should actually help you get better. Therapy doesn't need to be a lifelong activity. And also understand that therapy may be hurting you and dividing families, and you need to take a really good look at Your therapist and the therapy that you're doing, if you're in therapy and the people around you. And how do you judge if your therapist is working for you? How do you know?
Well, I like to say, like any service provider, whether it's a hairstylist, a fitness trainer, if you're not getting the results, you probably wouldn't stick with those people. The same should be true with a therapist. If you're not feeling better, getting better, gaining insight, you probably should find a new therapist.
Well, find you. Are you a therapist? I absolutely am a practicing therapist. All right, find Jonathan Albert. Congratulations on the book that's coming out in a couple of weeks.
It's going to be a big success: Therapy Nation: How America Got Hooked on Therapy and Why It's Left Us More Anxious and Divided, along with a little analysis on. Trump Derangement Syndrome. Warranty. It's an energy someone gives off when their appliances and home systems are protected by an American Home Shield warranty. Don't worry, be warranty.
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