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Of any purchase of $100 or more. That's promo code Brian. Hey, with me right now is Sage Steele. How do I know? I've met her in person and she looks exactly the same.
She's got a great podcast called The Sage Steele Show. And when she comes here, she steals the show because everyone loves you and looks to book you. And thanks so much for coming in, Sage. I love hanging with you, though. No offense to everybody else.
You were the first Fox person. I was. Yes.
Okay. Yes, right after I left ESPN. I remember being so nervous to meet you. Right. And you're not scary.
I'm really not scary.
Well, Allison deserves the credit for that, right, Allison? Because you realize when you were finally a free agent, you did your first interview with Megan, Megan Kelly. Yeah, two 48 hours later, pretty raw. Yeah. That was, I think back about that time, and that was August of 23.
Wow. And we became friends because we had the same attorney. That she dealt with that helped her after her NBC fiasco, and then me with ESPN with Brian Friedman. He's also with Justin Baldoni right now. Like the guy is a genius, frankly.
And so that's how Megan and I met, and she had me on. And from there, who knew that I'd be allowed in this building at some point, too? Oh, absolutely. And now you, I mean, you're on with Sean all the time. Yeah.
You're on with Jesse all the time. Jesse, yeah.
So, and how's the podcast world going? It's going well. Brian, this whole thing is a thing that I had wanted no part of. And now here we are. I love it.
I think it's taken me a minute to fully appreciate the freedom with it. And when all you know is 30 years of network, local, regional, national. Let's get it done, right? Yes.
And directives and 64 bosses. Like, it's so weird to be able to say, you know what? I would be honored if I could talk to Brian Kilmead on my show, which is going to happen. And so that freedom and to talk about whatever you want and to have an opinion that I believe should be based in fact, right? But to go out there and say what you want and not be afraid of what your employers are going to.
I used to get pulled in and asked about, well, you know, why are you liking this person's tweets? We're noticing this. It's like, what?
So the freedom part of it is amazing. I'm not a great entrepreneur. I've never done that. I had no interest. My husband fortunately is and is helping with that side of it.
And he's done that his whole life. But it's a blessing. There's so many blessings that come with getting canceled. Who knew? Who knew?
Well, don't you think the canceled era is virtually over? I feel like it, but they're hanging on. They don't want to let go of it, you know? But what happens is that when people like, I hate to sound dramatic, but you rise from the ashes. When you believe that you are worthless, actually, you're like, oh my gosh, everybody's crashing on me that this must be true.
And then you wake up the next day and you're still breathing. And then you're like, wow, I can actually walk and talk too. When you do that, others who've lived in fear of speaking up. Realize, well, maybe I need to do this too. Maybe it's my time because if they survived it, then I can too.
And that is one of the reasons why I think now, yeah, the cancel culture era is going away quickly, not quickly enough in my mind, compared to what so many people have been through. Encourage begets courage. And I never looked at my thing as courage. It was just standing up for what I thought was right. But Riley Gaines talks about that all the time.
Encourage begets courage. And when you speak, look at all these other young women athletes who are now stepping up and saying, no, I shouldn't have to be in a locker room with a boy. This is sick. But I don't know that that would have happened. If not for some of those young women like Ryan.
So look at Megan Rupino. This is to your point, not mine. She is still ripping on everything that doesn't say that there are seven genders and that men should be able to play on the women's national team. I guess what would that do to her? I had so much respect for her, and I would like to separate that as a player, right?
But otherwise, and I try not to personalize it, but she disgusts me. Because what she has done has been strategic. And maybe she believes this the whole time. Maybe she's just virtue signaling. I don't know.
I think she believes it. But to wait until the end of your career, when you've got millions of dollars in your pocket, to then all of a sudden say, Yeah, it's fine. And all you anti-trans racist, what like the stuff that she's called me and many other people. Why didn't or she attack you? Oh, she did.
She did it with me, Dave Chappelle, and someone else in the same sentence. And how we are a danger to the trans community with what we say that women's spaces should be protected. And it is just so convenient and sick that she waits to the end. Because remember, when the women's national team lost to, I think it was an under-15 boys' team from Texas, like high school kids, and there's no shame. Guess what?
Men are different from women. Newsflash, news bulletin, right? And so she knows she would never have had the career that she had, the illustrious career, if men had been in her sport.
So she's full of it. She disgusts me, and she's doing such a disservice to so many millions of young women and girls who've looked up to her this entire time. But I think, you know what? I saw her in Dunkin' Donuts ads a few years ago. I don't see her now.
Also, the way her career ended was so bizarre. She misses a penalty kick. And she's like, is this a bad joke? No, no, you missed a penalty kick. It's not a bad job.
It's called the way it happens in sports. You don't always win a championship. You don't always score the goal. And they've just blew that whole tournament because those women, totally unlikable, by the way. Oh, they are.
You're talking about somebody that was there in 93. I watched Mia Hamm and Julia Cowdy and Christine Lilly and all those. I covered Brianna Scurry and goal. And of course, they win the World Cup in front of 100,000 in Pasadena. I was there.
Bill Clinton went to the locker room and he partied with the girls. What a concept. Yeah. But there was no cameras, so he didn't get any blowback from it like this president. And I don't think he would have.
But this last one, the new one, are great. I don't know about them personally, but professionally, the new era seems to be good. But the last one that just left, I could do without. Yeah, and listen, some of the young women in the NWSL right now are doing some of the things, same things Megan is doing. And by I forgot the name of their teammate who was out on one of the teams in California.
Or the Professional Women's League. Yeah, I'm sorry, the Professional Women's League. And who just said, listen, I'm sorry, trans women. Slash men do not belong in our spaces. And what did her teammates do?
They came out and they attacked her and they held a press conference. Like it is, it's insanity.
So, unfortunately, that's the point about Rapino and people like that. The impact actually runs deep. Yes, common sense should prevail, but when you are a legend like Rapino was on the pitch, she does have that influence. And you know, I mean, she's very much involved. I think she's one of the owners of Angel City or one of those teams.
So it does matter what she says. But I do love that more and more people are now telling her. Where to shop it, frankly, because it's just factually incorrect.
So I coached a couple of players that are in the MLS right now. And they're brothers. And I asked to go out to this MLS team. I go, Wouldn't it be good to do a feature? And they say, Brian, would it be maybe you do it where they're having Thanksgiving and they go to practice the next day and they see where they've been and be do a nice feature.
So many different ways. And that team said, I don't really think we want to be on Fox.
So for the MLS to turn down a national audience, even though they don't have a national audience. You don't need an audience. Unless you're Messi. When Messi plays, it's different. It's different.
Yeah. And he's not American. I mean, you're still trying to grow the sport. And that's the decision that you make. I've never heard of that.
It's insane. And this is not about sports, but it reminds me leading up to the election. I was, yes, on the campaign trail, something I said I also would never do. And I remember Brian going with Laura Trump and Tulsi Gabbard and Danny Katpatrick and so many of these people. And we were like, having a great time.
Sounds like a great time. It was a blast with our pink jackets, Women for Trump. Point is, I was shocked to see that we were going to food pantries in Atlanta and Charlotte. And we'd go up for the day and help and unload the food that was being donated by the. You know, Trump Dole, all of that.
So many. Yeah, so many. It doesn't matter where it's coming from. It's free food for your community. Do you know that it took in Atlanta the first stop?
The fourth one that we called who was willing to accept free food for the pantry and the community because why? It was associated with Trump.
So don't tell me you care about your communities when you're turning down free food and resources for poor people in Atlanta and Charlotte just because it had Trump's name associated with it. Problem is, so it's everywhere throughout culture, sports, you name it, where people just run away from it instead of saying, okay, let's look past the politics of it and the good of it. We're trying to promote soccer, for God's sake. But the one thing I do get. And comedians know this too, that sometimes if you say, hey, as long as it's not politics, because you don't want to, you don't really, if they don't want to, you want to do a feature on the team, you want to make sure that stadium's packed.
So unless they're designed, unless the player insists on it, if they say to me, Brian, don't bring up politics, I go, I wouldn't. This is about them, what they're achieving their family. But that I understand. If I'm media relations, yeah. And unless that player just says, no, I want to talk about it.
Like, for example, Phil Mickelson, he comes up to me, I'm doing this. I'm doing this event for his for Live. And I'm at. Uh I'm at the Durow golf club of Donald Trump. Miami, yep.
Yeah, so he's my last interview. I can't wait to talk to him. He's so opinionated. And before he walks up, they go, Oh, I just gotta tell you. Whatever you do, don't bring up politics.
I go. All right, I got like two or three things to talk about, why he left California, how he feels now. Exactly. Things he's been very public about himself. I'm thinking to myself, they went out of their way to say it.
I'm like, should I do it?
So I go, okay.
So morning show. I wouldn't talk about politics. You have plenty to talk about. We're done. And then afterwards, he says to me, Oh, I would have talked, he goes, I just thought you were going to bring up stuff about politics.
I would have talked about anything.
So the media relations people got ahead. And told me. Publicists. But that's why you always got to talk to the athlete or the coach first. Yeah, and it stinks.
But they're the ones. And how about? If they're concerned, they ask Phil first. Don't speak for Phil. I'd be furious if I'm Phil Michaels.
Absolutely, because now, I mean, he is more vocal than ever. Yeah. Because he got ripped for saying, I'm going to move out of California because taxes are too high. Can you imagine that? Who would now that everybody's moving out of California?
Yeah, it's unfortunate. I think there's so many athletes who want to speak up, and it's just like the prior conversation: like the more who do it in a sane. Factually based way that represents their opinion. There's nothing wrong with that. That's actually what we need more of.
It's the way that you do it. If you're tearing down others when you do it, okay, fine. But he's allowed to have an opinion.
So let's talk about hockey. And it always seems like two lifetimes ago because we're in the middle of a war. Yeah. But. The USA hockey team wins, gets a call from the president.
Yeah, whether the FBI director should have been partying or not, that's a separate conversation, but he's a huge hockey guy. We also know people, very professional. You put them around an athlete or a sport, you know, they go crazy. Oh, they do. They're human.
He goes to Islander season ticket holders, goes to the game.
So, cash patel, that's a separate argument. But to have the president on speakerphone, when you know that George Allen was called into Nixon, we used to give George Allen plays for the Redskins, Gerald Ford. This used to be a Ronald Reagan was the biggest sports fan ever. And that's controversial. And then the so-called joke, the president said, you know, I got to invite the women.
How do you feel about that whole thing? Yeah. I sometimes just hate our media for this reason. It's like these guys who were as classy and have been since then as classy. Hockey players are chaotic.
They're the best. When people ask me who are your favorite athletes to interview over a 30-year sports career, it is always hockey players. Always. NHL first. And then we can debate from there.
Football, basketball, baseball was always the toughest, frankly. Like, I love these guys. They're so good. Baseball.
So you said baseball? Yeah, Major League Baseball. I think it's because they have 162 games. They're like, leave me alone. I get it.
But hockey guys are always so grateful and so, so humble. Listen, at the end of the day, It doesn't matter who the commander-in-chief is. The commander-in-chief is calm. And always happens for the most part, right? Whenever there's a championship of any kind won.
I love how they handled it. They knew it was a joke. They laughed and they're like, Yeah, like we doubled up. We're two for two. No one cared until certain people told us we should care.
Yeah, the Cache Patel thing, I prefer to not see him in there. I think he's busy, busier these days. And you go to the game, do we need to be in there? Fine. But there's nothing wrong with the President of the United States calling to congratulate you and to invite you.
I think it's a missed opportunity for the women.
Sounds like they are going to eventually go. But I love how these guys have handled it. Ever since, with every single media pundit trying to get them to say Donald Trump should have the whole thing, uh, Sage Steeler, I guess, says the whole thing is they can't drive a wedge between two teams that pulled for each other, that trained with each other, they were in the same, I guess, hotel or dorm, whatever it was, but they went to each other's games.
So, when you have the men did this and the women did this, they said, Well, we have no friction, we have no problem, so don't make it up. Jack Hughes said, the one who scored the game-winning goal, he said that the one who scored the women's game-winning goal, also a 2-1 game in overtime, that she inspired him. Against Get Right, she inspired him. Like, there's so much love between these two, and so I think it's pathetic. And it would never have happened had this been under Joe Biden or Barack Obama or even George Bush.
It's a different time, a different era. But people want to find any reason to hate more on Donald Trump. And the best thing is. Most of those guys said, I don't care. I'm going to the White House because it's the White House and because we won this for America.
Yeah, and we had a chance to meet them, and they especially like this president. I have to notice, I noted, hey, if we can, here's Charles Barclay talking about this whole incident. Everything is not Democrat, Republican, conservative, or liberal. That's why we got this divided, screwed up country. I'm not a Trump guy.
But If I got invited to the White House, I would go. I'm not a I'm not a Trump guy. I want to make that clear. But I respect the office. He's the President of the United States.
So simple. Makes sense. But then you look at the contrast of that with like a Steve Kerr and a Doc Rivers and a Greg Popovich. And it's, it's just the worst. He's the worst, but now he's kind of gone and you pray for him.
His health is a thing. Doc Rivers is the worst. The DMs he has sent me crushing me for my beliefs. Like, it's. Oh, he goes right at you?
Oh, but I was like, Doc, remember that whole thing? Diversity of thought. It's not just diversity of skin color, which is what you guys always want to make it about race, but it's Doc, and who used to be a friend of mine, and Steve Kerr, et cetera, who want, you know. They lead. With divisiveness and hatred and judgment.
Because I actually said to Doc, you know, this is a very long DM chain, and I was like, you just hate the fact that you can't, you know, put me in a box because of my skin color. I'm supposed to think a certain way and vote a certain way and marry a certain way. You, people like you and Steve Kerr, are the problem. How about respecting people's opinions? You don't know my story.
You don't know my why. And I don't know yours. I respect yours. Why are you coming?
So I have no respect for those guys who are in such leadership positions. And when they make their basketball press conferences, About this. Stop. That is not I say tell this to my bosses, Brian. Why are we bringing politics into sports and sports center?
It's not why people watch us. Right. Steve Kerr, by the way, didn't his dad die in Beirut by Iranian sponsored and supported? Hezbollah? Who blew up, killed 241 Americans back in 1983?
His dad was one of them. His dad was, and it's heartbreaking. And people say, well, that's why his opinions, I'm like, Again, it isn't necessarily what your opinion is. It's the way you choose to condemn others for having a differing opinion. Condemn.
That is the opposite of what you people preach. That was a perfect way to go to break, so we will. This is Ainsley Earhart. Thank you for joining me for the 52-episode podcast series, The Life of Jesus. A listening experience that will provide hope, comfort, and understanding of the greatest story ever told.
Listen and follow now at FoxNewsPodcasts.com or wherever you listen to podcasts. Oh, are we just finding out Britney Spear was arrested? Will we? She's driving herself? Who's gonna deal with that?
Oh gosh. I mean, Sage stealing. The dancing videos is what she should be arrested for.
So, Sage, you're in the news? Did CBS? Oh, my gosh. I am so glad you're asking this question.
Okay. Brian. I literally heard nothing about any of this. I had a reporter reach out. 48 hours ago on my info ad thing, and I laughed.
I was like, This is some guy trying to, I have no idea what this is. And then yesterday, I'm on the Flight coming here to New York, and a friend said sends me all these links to Sage Del CBS. I was like, What? Not a single human being has ever reached out to me from CBS from anywhere.
So, like, it says he tried to know to know. No, no, I look through emails to make sure. I'm like, not one person, you know what they did. This is what happens all the time in the media business. They threw a name out of a former host who, I don't know, has the same skin color as Gail King.
I don't know. And it's like threw me out there to manipulate and make it seem. And I was actually kind of upset. I'm like, wait. I'm kind of easy to find.
Pick up the phone if that's the case, but I actually don't think they wanted to talk to me. This was just a way. Who? Barry Weiss? Never met her.
Yeah. Never. Never talked to her. I like the free press. I mean, I guess so.
That's why I need to look at it. But, and I've certainly respected her. And what, I mean, what she inspired me with what she did, leaving this part of the world now coming back. But I swear, thank you for asking. You're the first person I've asked.
I had zero clue. The Sage Steel Show, where do we get your podcast? YouTube and everywhere you can find it. Everywhere else. We're on YouTube too.
But you were there first. All right. Thanks so much, Sage. I appreciate it. All right.
Don't go anywhere.
