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So, before we get to Griff Jenkins a little bit later, Michael Rubin, let's get to the big three. Number three. I answered. Every one of their questions as fully as I could. I never met Jeffrey Epstein, never had any connection or communication with him.

Well, there's a few pictures to say a different story. Who knows? Epstein trial focuses on Clinton, Hillary yesterday, and Bill today.

Now they're using it as a threshold, a runway, to get Donald Trump to sit down. I don't think so. Number two. The reality is, when you look clearly at what Iran is and what they represent, you've got to come to the conclusion that it's very unlikely we're going to achieve anything. Why is that?

Because Iran does want to recover its nuclear program. Yep, that is General Jack Keene on Fox and Friends earlier. Tick, tick, tick. Countdown for Iran to hand over their nukes, ballistic missiles, and stop funding terror. Good luck.

Our own mighty military will spring into action. The extreme right and some on the left have their doubts. I don't. An attack is the only way to bring peace. Michigan is open for business.

New factories making batteries, cars, chips. Probably not on the bingo card, but I want to thank President Trump for his work on this. How about that? Governor Gretchen Whitmer. Politics of plenty as JD and DJT fan out to spread their message on the economy and the turnaround as 47 gets rare praise for working with a socialist mayor and from a Democratic governor that you just heard.

But you're not going to be happy. He's not going to be happy as the president on the economic numbers he just got. The market is plummeting 524 points so far. One, because of jitters, because of AI. And just now they got numbers that show a slight uptick of 0.5 when it comes to inflation.

Griff, that's not good news. No, it's not good news. And we'll see what also happens to the markets because they're probably watching, as we all are, what's going to happen with Iran. Are we going to strike Iran? And that's going to have a major impact on the market.

And I'm sure that markets will take a look into that in the weekend. And I thought, actually, you know, Jack Keene is so good on our air, and you do such great interviews. But today's interview you did this morning on Fox and Friends was really one of the more powerful ones. Yeah. Keene was laying out exactly why there's never been a more historic opportunity to set the conditions for bringing down the Islamic regime and really resetting the Middle East after 50 years of nearly domination by them.

So what Jack Keene says is he's not really paying attention to any of the talks.

So I have details on what one what b each side is saying, and it doesn't matter. You can't trust him. And I agree. You can never trust Iran. And they said that we we're looking at a sunset.

What about we will not Enrich uranium, except for hospitals, for medical care, for three to five years. What are you talking about? And then they go, you'll have inspections to be able to cut to look into underground facilities. Really? You're building an underground facility still?

In three to five years, you won't do it. And what about one day, a year and a half from now, and you go, I think I'm going to go. Enrich uranium. Then we're going to say you're in breach of contract, at which time they'll have missile defense up, the funding will be continuing with Hezbollah and Hamas, and they'll be saying, Why did we not gut through that window of opportunity? Right.

And look, let's walk in Iran's shoes for a moment. They are thinking.

So, the deal that the U.S. is offering me is get rid of my nuke program, get rid of my ballistic missile program, stop playing with Hezbollah, Hamas, and the Houthis. They're never going to take that deal. President Trump knows that, but he's going through the diplomatic process of trying to come up with something that could possibly counterbalance. And it doesn't look like Iran is going to take any of this.

But yet at the same time, when Jack Keene talks about the fact that we've never had a better opportunity for this, I think you start to see maybe what the administration's thinking is.

So Naftali Bennett was on with me yesterday, and he was talking about this whole story about Israel pushing the U.S. into war. And he essentially said, have you met Donald Trump? Do you think anyone pushes him to do anything? Here's a little bit of what he said, if Israel's ready or not.

Cut 23. We have to be prepared one way or another. In effect, the ten million Israelis living here in Israel, we are the boots on the ground of the the free world. We are the ones who will pay the price of any retaliation or something of that sort. But we understand that it is a price that we are willing to pay.

In order to remove this threat from the world, the only thing he's not categorizing correctly says. They'll be taking it out of them. I think he's going to be, they're going to be right with us. And this is the first time we're going to be fighting. With them.

I mean, we did Operation Midnight Hammer, but we weren't on the, you know, we weren't necessarily in tandem. We were in communication. This is going to be. If this happens, we're going to be working with them very closely.

Well, without a doubt. And the reason being, Brian, is not only for the actual operation itself, but also because of the fact that what you're talking about, the objective, and the administration, I think, could do a little bit better job in relaying to the American people exactly why now and what comes next. What comes next is the big question. And you're talking about this is a historic opportunity, as Keene says, to reset the Middle East away from fundamental Islamic war. And the next is with working with building upon the Abraham Accords, a resetting of the Middle East from a war to a commerce-driven free society.

And there's no way we do that without Israel.

So here's General Keene on this opportunity, cut 30. President Trump is a peace president. There is no doubt about it, given what he's done over 13 months on resolving conflicts that were too challenging for others to resolve, and particularly the United Nations, which doesn't show up at all when it comes to peace. Here's the difference. This president is willing to use force.

to achieve a peaceful outcome. And I believe that is the path we are on right now. Yeah, and to have sometimes peace, you have to have war. You do, but one thing we know about President Trump is he so far seems allergic to ground troops of any kind. And as Keene did acknowledge in your interview, is that this could be that we could see casualties.

And the big fear is, of course, a protracted, drawn-out sort of thing. I don't think we're ever going to hear this administration say they're looking to put ground troops, U.S. boots, on the ground there, but you can't. Consider an operation like this without talking about that possibility. I know they haven't really identified somebody they can work with.

But I would say that maybe the next leader is in prison. And that Evian prison that is right there. Remember, they blew the doors open in the 12-day war and are wondering who's going to get out. But anybody that's a threat to the regime, they jail. And maybe that's the next leader.

One thing we're saying is. Not only do they declare war on us in Israel, they're declaring war on their own people.

So the only people that want to see them stay in power are the people in power, the people of Iran. And I'm not saying it's going to be smooth, but we're not going to control it. Even if they say the IRGC can stay in control, you're only going to do it to a certain extent, and we're going to be able to monitor your nuclear program. But you can pick up the garbage and you can deliver the mail. Yeah, and you know, you raise a good point about the split factions within Iran.

Aside from the IRGC and what is there in the IRGC structure, assuming that you bring the regime, you top of the regime, obviously we see these protesters back again bravely getting killed and just pulverized fighting for it. It's not clear that any faction could still exist within the leadership of the IRGC that may also be tired of the conditions that exist now. All right, so this came in about 15 minutes ago. These economic numbers are not going to be great when the president goes to speak in Corpus Christi today, this afternoon. First, he's having a college sports roundtable because there are some problems in college sports, believe me.

Meanwhile, the cost of wholesale goods and services rose at an accelerated pace in January for the second month in a row, suggesting persistent inflation that could hurt the economy for at least through the early part of the year. Producer prices rose 0.5% in January. According to the index published by the government, it was the biggest increase in four months, the top 0.3 percent forecast. The 12-month increase in wholesale prices, where inflation tends to show up first, eased 2.9 percent from 3.0 last month, and that's why the market's having a tough time.

So the president has a very specific job in that speech amid negative numbers, and that is. When you step back, it is. Unbelievable to me that in places like Virginia, where Abigail Spamberger got elected running on affordability, the Democrats are referring that this administration is causing the economic woes when the four years of Biden administration and handling of the Bidenomics, that economy that was an absolute abject failure, that this administration is now trying to fix that. And I think that in the State of the Union and perhaps later today from President Trump, we will hear some more clarity on exactly how this is going to take some time. The real question is: is the runway long enough between now and November before you're looking at the possibility of Democrats regaining either the House or the Senate?

And at that point, all of the things that President Trump's economic stool is built on-the tax cuts, deregulation, tariffs, and of course, private investment-really begins to get threatened. All right.

So, this is the former Deputy Treasury Secretary on last night on the bottom line, Michael Faulkner. Faulkner, here's what he said about the economy. Prior to those numbers coming out, but the interest rates matter, cut eight. If you look at what happened to the median mortgage payment between when Joe Biden came into office and when President Trump returned to the White House, it doubled, Degan. If you look at what interest rates did and what housing costs were at, if you then calculate the principal and interest payment on just the the median priced home in the United States, the monthly payment doubled.

So that's a bit of a stress, but he went on to say this, cut nine. And so what the President has been focused on ever since he came into office was how do we put in place more sound economic policies so that we can bring down interest rates while simultaneously figuring out how we can create incentives for there to be more housing built. Because if we can build more houses and have housing prices be more affordable and then have mortgage interest rates also come down, that's the magic combination that can then once again return access to home ownership to the American people. But for the first time in five years, it looks like the mortgage rate is below six. It's at 5.8%.

Right. So lower rates. And as he says, the inventory has to increase. But at the end of the day, while the American dream is centered around home ownership, and I think that does still exist, a whole generation, Gen Z and young people are looking at things, trying to project themselves 10 years down the road, say, okay, how do I position myself financially to like. Be in the strongest position.

And when President Trump first went on the road to tout his economic plans, they had a big banner behind it that said lower prices, higher wages. And that message has got to stick. He should be saying lower prices, higher wages in every breath. I thought I was going to hear more about that in the State of the Union. I was disappointed I didn't.

But American, the American young people can hear lower prices, higher wages, and think that makes sense.

Okay, now how do we get there? And if that answer makes sense to young people, then they're going to get on board. Griff, do you have an idea who's going to be on for your eight hours over the weekend? I can't wait. We got Dana Perino, the one and only Dana Perino, getting her on the weekend.

Big deal. We're going to talk about everything from Iran to maybe the economic message today. We'll see where that goes. We've got Benjamin Hall, who has got a children's book out, but he's also greatly equipped to talk about as we sit with the Middle East, Iran, the Middle East, and what's going on there. And we have Senator Mark Wayne Mullen.

Who you mentioned today on Fox and Friends did a masterclass beat down on the octogenarian Bernie Sanders when they got crossed during the Surgeon General confirmation hearing, and they got into it with each other. And Mullen basically said, you are the problem. You've been in Congress longer than I've been alive. Yeah, it was great. They talked about healthcare.

We need more money for healthcare. What are you kidding me? Will you just admit Obamacare didn't work? All right, Griff. We look forward to seeing you over the weekend.

Fox and Weekends co-host Griff Jenkins. Great job. Thank you, Brian. Back in a moment. Learning something new every day on the Brian Kill Me Show.

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Michigan is open for business. New factories making batteries, cars, chips are opening in Marshall, Lake Orion, Holland, Bay City, Calumet, Henlock, Ann Arbor, and Delta Township. Probably not on the bingo card, but I want to thank President Trump for his work on this. Good job. Michigan's getting a lot of industrialization.

And Governor Gretchen Whitmer is saying, good job, Trump. This is going to be an interesting thing because you have Mayor Mondami. He's off to a terrible start in New York City. I mean, not plowing the snow, even though he did better the second time. And then you have a can't pick up the garbage and then doesn't back up cops when they get pelted with snowballs, says, I'm not going to ban snowball fighting.

And then when you have an attacker go after cops with a knife, he visits the attacker in the hospital and says he shouldn't be charged because he's got a mental illness. When you have that type of start, but he's up to the president and says, hey, what about A housing complex. And the president goes, Yeah, come on in. Let's talk about it.

So, could the investment happen? Sure. Should it happen? Not without extracting some type of cooperation. And the President knows what he needs, but one thing I think he does need, and that is cooperation for the NYPD and for his ICE operations, because they're not watching the perimeter.

It gets extremely dangerous when you do not watch the perimeter when these guys go into action.

So again, we didn't get good economic numbers before, but J.D. Vance was out in Wisconsin selling the story, helping Derek Van Orden make sure he keeps his seat, House seat. Here is for J.D. Vance on affordability, cut two.

Well, look, it's our top concern, too. We want people to be able to afford a good life. Nothing breaks my heart more than the idea that you've got somebody who goes out, they bust their rear end, they come home, they want to give their kids a nice meal, maybe once or twice a year they want to take their kids on a nice vacation. We want people to be able to afford that so long as they work hard and play by the rules. And I think the thing that we've tried to remind ourselves of in the Trump administration is we were put in a very big hole.

When you talk about the average American family under Biden's leadership that lost $3,000 in take-home pay, we think about we think every single day, how do we get that $3,000 back and then some?

So that's his purchase. If you understand what we're trying to do and understand what they were doing and understand that they want to go do that again that caused all this. That's what they want the contrast. They want Democrats to be forced to say, What would you do? As opposed to we don't like what Trump's doing.

So far, the market's not liking what they got from those inflation reports. But The economy is still going to be front and center when the president goes out to Texas.

Now, it's going to be an interesting time in Texas because you have Wesley Hunt. You have Senator John Cornyn. And you have Ken Paxton. Ken Paxson is supported by Steve Bannon, I know, the one who's doing a documentary in 2019 on Jeffrey Epstein. Good political choice.

He's calling on the president not to get involved. Really? Because he is backing Ken Paxson. saying that he's ultra maga.

Well, the problem with Ken Paxon, not that he's a bad attorney general, is that he's got huge personal issues. And there's all this scandal written about him and the impeachment that took place.

So he kept his job. He fend off the attack of George P. Bush, who's had a big machine behind him too. And I have nothing against Ken Paxson. But evidently polling next to the either Democrat including Crockett.

Shows the extremely tight race in Texas where the early voting. It was easily, there was much more enthusiasm for Democrats. They got much bigger numbers early voting than Republicans. Remember the state race they lost earlier. And also remember that the Hispanic vote is going down because some theorized, I don't necessarily buy into it, but it's most theorized because of the aggressive way in which ICE was going after.

Uh illegal immigrants. Yeah. aggressive way, you know, not criminals, but others. We'll see where this goes. All right, listen to the Brian Kilmey Show.

We come back, Michael Rubin joins us. He's with the Director of Policy Analysis for the Middle East Forum. A talk show that's real. This is the Brian Kill Me Show. That's certainly what they want the world to believe and what they're threatening.

And again, those thousands of missiles pose a real danger. And I know that Marco Rubio and Pete Hexeth and General Kane are explaining the risk to the president as they should. But of course, Israel and the United States and our friends have a massive, massive military armada in the region. And Sean, it's a lot easier to shoot the archer before he gets off his arrow than trying to knock the arrow out of the sky. Great analogy, which I can understand.

Michael Rubin joined us now, Senior Fellow at the American Enterprise Institute. That was, of course, Senator Tom Cotton, Director of Policy Analysis, Middle East Forum. He specializes in Middle East countries. Michael, welcome. This is a very interesting time for your area of expertise.

You wrote a column just on saying the President's got to make clear his objective. And whatever you want to say about the last operation, George W. Bush, we knew exactly what he wanted to do, Al Saddam. H.W. Bush, we said he was going to make sure that Kuwait was, the forces were pushed out of Kuwait, left Saddam in power.

The objective's got to be clear. What do you think the President's objective should be here? I think the President's objective has to be regime change, because what the President needs to understand is that Iran's playbook has two possible plays. One is to bog him down in negotiations until the clock runs out. The other is to come up with some sort of agreement, which they're going to violate the second that Trump is removed from office.

And so the only security, if Trump wants his legacy to be secure, is to ensure that the supreme leader is gone and his regime. The problem has never been the nuclear missiles. It's been the guys who would wield them.

So how about if that's the policy? But politically, it's not the best line to use, correct? Absolutely, it's not the best line. But here's the thing. The President doesn't want boots on the ground.

If you have regime change, there's a chance of a vacuum. You don't know what's going to come next. What I don't understand is if you have 95% of Iran's oil going through the Karg oil terminal, which is 10 miles off the coast of Iran, why don't you simply take that? And then if Iran can't export 95% of its oil, it can't pay its Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps. It can't pay its Iraqi militias, and then the whole regime comes tumbling down.

So you mean sh shut off the oil shut off the oil? Shut off the oil. This is what Ronald Reagan did in part back in 1988 in Operation Praying Mantis, Brian, when he took out one of the oil derricks in the Persian Gulf.

So just bombing, you say, and going for the ballistic missile plants and going after the finish off the nuclear weapons and bombing maybe the bases of the IRGC, you said that's not going to be enough.

Well, here's the problem with just bombing the IRDC. I support getting rid of the missiles. I agree with Tom Cotton here. But in 2007, the Revolutionary Guard reorganized so they put one unit in every province, 32 different provinces. Each of those units has an arms depot.

What are we going to do to secure those arms depots to make sure that bad guys don't rush in and get them the way that happened in Iraq or Libya? That's a good point.

So, when you look at our assets right now, what are we capable of in the region?

Well, look, we're capable of almost anything when we have two carrier strike groups. Because remember, when we're talking about carrier strike groups, we're not only talking about the F-35s and so forth. We're talking about the destroyers. We're talking about the cruisers. We're talking about the submarines that come with an aircraft carrier.

But this is what worries me. When I hear that Arab states in the region won't let us use their airfields, I see this as a barometer of their intelligence services. assessing how serious Donald Trump is. When you have a horn assess, Brian, you have two good options. One's to leave it alone, the other one's to get rid of it, but you don't want to sit underneath it lightly tapping it with a stick.

And when the Arabs are saying, we're not going to participate, to me that signals that they have talked to Donald Trump and the U.S. intelligence community, the military, and they're not sure that we can pull this off. That's interesting, or they don't want to be a target. And they think if they play a role, if they say, well, we're going to go after Saudi Arabia, they could say, what do I have to do with it?

Well, you're absolutely right that that is a concern, but their biggest goal would also, they have no love for this regime. They would want to get rid of it. But you know, here's my other concern with all the talk right now. If Iran retaliates, I'm much less concerned about what happens in Beirut and Basra and Baghdad than I would be what happens in Bangkok or Burbank, California. And the reason is that Iranians with sleeper cells and terrorists will hit us where we're least expecting it.

This notion that they're just going to hit us in the region, that's something that we need to it's just a false assumption that's going to hurt us. How infiltrated do you think they are into our country? I haven't seen much terror attacks from them. We've seen threats, we've seen some arrests. But has there been indications of s cells?

Well, there are indications of cells. In 2006, there was an incident in Arkansas where an Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps veteran had infiltrated the Arkansas National Guard. Then you remember that in 2010, there was a plot to kill the Saudi ambassador in Washington, D.C. by exploding a car bomb outside Cafe Milano, a popular restaurant. What's important to understand is that in many of these cases, the Iranians don't necessarily do things themselves.

They reach out to the cartels. They reach out to other criminal gangs. And this is the same play that they also engaged in back in 1994 in Buenos Aires when they blew up the Jewish Cultural Center. Here is Senator Tom Cotton on what Iran might be able to do. COT 26.

That's certainly what they want the world to believe and what they're threatening. And again, those thousands of missiles pose a real danger. And I know that Marco Rubio and Pete Hegseth and General Kaine are explaining the risk to the president as they should. But of course, Israel and the United States and our friends have a massive, massive military armada in the region. And Sean, it's a lot easier to shoot the archer before he gets off his arrow than trying to knock the arrow out of the sky.

I don't know who was calling significant progress from that meeting this morning. It sounds like it may have been the Iranians. Remember, they believe for 47 years that they can't win a war, but they can win any negotiation. I think with Donald Trump, they're likely to lose both.

So, have you ever seen the Iranian people, Michael Rubin, as exercised and motivated as they've been over the last month, and they've paid a bloody price, but it's been pretty persistent? It has been pretty persistent, and they definitely do want regime change. But here's the problem. You know I used to live in Iran. They used to call me son of the great Satan.

And one thing that just overshadows all Iranian thinking is the Iran-Iraq war, where they had a revolution to get rid of a dictator. They were promised Islamic democracy. They got neither, but they got a war that killed a million people. That's what keeps Iranians on the fence. That said, if they see that we're serious, I think they will move ahead.

The question then becomes, what's going to happen? Because Iran is a country with 40 potential generals and presidents for each potential private.

So, wait a second.

So, you think they move ahead in what way, if they thought we were serious? Look, if the Iran I mean, what I would be saying right now, Brian, is if I were Donald Trump, I would tell the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps, you have three days to defect. And if you don't defect, you will likely die. We need to make clear to the forces that are repressing the Iranian people that their time is up. If that happens, I think the Iranian people will return to the streets and this time be triumphant.

That's interesting. Do have do you do you think that the next leader in Iran is in prison? Do you know names of people, if gotten out, would have the popularity to unite that country?

Well, certainly the son of the former Shah has the most popularity. I'm not sure whether he has the organization to pull this off. And you know that I worked in Iraq during the invasion and so forth. One thing that a lot of people forget is the CIA had inserted a cleric named Majid Al-Khoy, who is very pro-Western. We had a lot of hopes on him.

And then what happened is he was hacked to death the day he arrived. What I'm worried about is if we talk about inserting the former crown prince into Iran, how are we going to keep him alive? And can we even do that without boots on the ground, which of course is a red line? That said, there's a lot of other labor union leaders. There's a lot of other civil society leaders who are emerging.

My biggest fear is you have three or four different people emerging, some backed by neighboring states, and then you have a civil war.

So if you could you think from the best you know, of course, we don't have satellite images and infrared images, is it possible to destroy their ballistic missile capabilities or set it back like we could at their nuclear facilities? Yes, absolutely. It takes a long time to fuel these missiles. They don't have as many as they used to. And if we look at the timing of the June 2025 war, that was determined by when the Iranians were reconstituting their anti-aircraft missile capability after the April and October 2024 Israeli strikes.

If we can knock out their S- three hundreds and their other anti-aircraft missiles, we can do so with the ballistic missiles, which are a bigger target. That ultimately needs to be the objective.

So when you look at Hezbollah, they got a bill. I asked the Israeli officials, they said, roughly, how much did Iran give Hezbollah? In 2025, $1 billion, which is down from the year before, obviously.

Now they have the IRGC if reports are correct. rebuilding Hezbollah personally because they're in tatters. Hamas gets financing too from Israel. If you could put that regime flat on its back as they scramble for power. Does that free up more time to further destroy Hezbollah and really move forward with different phases of peace as Hamas scrambles for arms and money?

Yes, it absolutely does. But here's it. Look, I spent part of the summer in West Africa interviewing Lebanese diaspora about money laundering to Hezbollah because while the Israelis knocked out Hezbollah's military, and I went to Beirut recently, into Hezbollah's neighborhood, I counted the people missing eyes and fingers at a cafe which was symbolic of their defeat with this Operation Grim Bieper and so forth. But if we don't uproot that financial network, they are going to regrow. But when we talk about finances, Brian, this is the big elephant in the room with regard to Iran.

Many people estimate that Iran over the past 40 years has lost up to $2 trillion in sanctions and lost opportunities for development because of its nuclear program, its nuclear ambitions, and so forth. If Ayatollah Khomeini, the supreme leader, were to give this up right now, the nuclear program, he'd have to explain to his hardliners, not just ordinary Iranians, what they sacrificed for, how they lost $2 trillion. That's one of the reasons I don't think he's ever going to be sincere in giving up his nuclear program because I don't think he can survive that concession. What would you like to see happen, Michael? I would like to see Ayatollah Ali Khomeini frog-marched out in chains the way Nicholas Maduro was so that he's humiliated and this Islamist terrorist ideology, which he represents, is basically delegitimized forever.

That would do something. That would do more. Get this 86-year-old out. You don't think it would exercise the religious extremists to say we have to take action? And look at this guy as a hero.

I actually don't because many of the, I mean, first of all, not to quote Osama bin Laden positively, but you remember that he once quipped that everyone in the region loves a strong horse. They don't like to shackle themselves to a hobble pony. And so this is the case where I think we need to show Ayatollah Khomeini in front of his own supporters. We need to show him humiliated. And at the same time, I speak a lot to Ayatollah's.

I spent a lot of time in Iraq and so forth. People don't like Ali Khomeini. They want him to go. It's time that the Iranians return to the community of nations as a normal country. And you know what?

They're immunized from this virus of Islamist extremism because they've suffered under it for so long.

So you think if you assume if Trump was to ask you what might target, you say, go get Khomeini. Kill him. arrest him or something. And that'll be the best opportunity for change? That would be and I would also say dry up their ability to pay their salaries.

Take Harg oil terminal and then don't destroy it because Iran is going to be our ally the day after. What you want to do is you want to create a sovereign wealth fund for them that they can invest in their own future with their own money. It's the perfect Trumpian solution. And where is that located? that is located ten miles off the coast of Iran because remember, the Persian Gulf is very narrow, it's very shallow.

The average depth is only around ninety feet deep, and it's more shallow closer to the Iranian shore.

So you can't get the supertankers into shore, which is why they have to pipe all their oil out to these terminals about ten miles away. Are you concerned about the different sects, ethnic groups like we had in Iraq?

So if you blow off the top and there's no leaders, you worry about the Kurds taking on different other elements and the country breaking up. I'm not worried about the country breaking up because Iran has a near-contiguous history going back more than 2,000 years, and so it has an identity which predates this era of ethnic nationalism. Remember, Ayatollah Ali Khomeini, the supreme leader himself, isn't Persian. He's actually Azerbaijani.

So he's a different ethnic group. The former head of the judiciary was an Arab, and so on and so on and so forth. There are going to be demands for federalism, especially among the Kurds and the Baluch, but among the larger minorities, I don't think there's going to be that much of an issue. I can't imagine a better person to talk to with such direct knowledge of the region and worries about what could happen. But Michael, do you see Bled, before I let you go, do you see this as a unique opportunity to strike a enemy of ours for the last forty seven years?

That should be just done correctly? Or do you use it? Would you be just as happy if we let this opportunity pass? No, no, I think that ultimately the Iranians are going to strike us if we don't strike at them. We can't underestimate the importance of ideology.

In the United States, we prize Brian. We prize multiculturalism, but we look at it as walking into a sushi restaurant and being able to order mojito. We don't understand that different peoples can think in very, very different ways, and that itself can be extremely dangerous. Michael Rubin, thanks so much. Senior Fellow at AEI.

We'll talk to you soon, Michael. Thank you, Brad. All right, and check out his columns: Just Bombing Iran is a strategy that will fail. And you just heard some of the worries and some of the options. Back in a moment.

From breaking news to big name guests, Brian brings you insight you won't hear anywhere else. You're listening to the Brian Kill Meat Show. Yeah. A radio show like no other. It's Brian Killmeade.

You know what the Save Act would do? Require that people show a birth certificate or a passport to register to vote. I don't have the exact numbers in front of me, but it's something like 40% of Americans. don't have those documents.

Okay, if you can't get a passport or you can't get a proper ID to get on a plane or to be able to drive a car or to be able to go into a building if you're a messenger or work for Uber Eats, you need IDs.

So check out the Save Act. The 40% is totally inaccurate, and she just is instinctively saying whatever the Republicans propose, I'm against.

Meanwhile, it's another 80-20 issue. 80%. want 80% one idea and why is that? Fundamentally, they want their vote to count too. They want Democrats to get elected honestly and fairly, and they don't want it canceled out by some man or woman that's going to vote multiple times or vote illegally.

So the Save Act. In fact, the President put that up again today.

So yesterday, the Republicans came to the White House and they just brainstormed about what they should focus on over the next nine months. And it looks like the main thing that they walked away with Was on the Save Act, because the President put that out this morning that Save Acts got to get passed, don't delay. I also, if I'm the President, try to get as many judges passed as possible. One thing about Mitch McConnell, he was relentless in doing it. I hear it's been very, very slow, and that's intentional.

Keep in mind too, we're coming up on One Nation over the weekend, Sunday night at 10 o'clock. I'm going to have H.R. McMaster join me. And as you know, the Lieutenant General, the Lieutenant General is also a military historian, was a national security advisor to President Trump in the last term, and he really has an understanding of the region. We also have with us Carl Rove, who's going to break down this battle plan over in Texas.

And we also have Carly Shimkis joining us. We're going to look at the cartels and what was actually done. That's going to be interesting, too. You're listening to the Brian Kill Me Chill. Don't move.

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Real American Freestyle is going to be on with us today. Henry Calugio, he's going to be here. He's one of the headliners. And Real American Freestyle is the fast-growing sport in the country. And now ESPN and Fox Sports are trying to get it, and they've been so loyal to Fox Nation.

So that is great. So also some great news. We just added a West Virginia station over in Huntington, West Virginia. They added the Brian Killmee Show Monday through Friday, all three hours, 9 to noon, WNRJ.

So thank you so much, everybody, at 1200 a.m. and 95.3 FM, the Eagle.

So before we get to our in-studio guest, Senator Shelly Moore Capito of West Virginia, let's get to the big three. Number three. I answered Every one of their questions as fully as I could. I never met Jeffrey Epstein, never had any connection or communication with him.

There you go. More of this. Hillary Clinton, the video will be available shortly.

Meanwhile, Bill Clinton today. Epstein trial focuses on the Clintons. Hillary says, I never met him. We see some pictures showing she's laughing with him. Bill will get blasted today.

There's a hot tub shot with a girl's face blacked out. How do you get through that? The Epstein files never stop. Number two. The reality is, when you look clearly at what Iran is and what they represent, you've got to come to the conclusion that very unlikely we're going to achieve anything.

Why is that? Because Iran does want to recover its nuclear program. Yep, General Jakeen knows it. Tick, tick, tick. Countdown for Iran to hand over their nukes, ballistic missiles, and stop funding terror.

Good luck with that. Our mighty military is ready to spring into action. The extreme right and some on the left have their doubts. I don't. An attack is the only way to bring peace.

We'll explain. Number one. Michigan is open for business. New factories making batteries, cars, chips. Probably not on the bingo card, but I want to thank President Trump for his work on this.

Yup, that is Democratic Governor Gretchen Whitmer. Politics of plenty. SJD and DJT fan out to spread the message on the economy. Although they did get some disturbing news when it came to inflation, S-47 gets rare praise, as you just heard, from a working, from a mayor, a Democratic mayor in New York. work.

And a Michigan Democratic governor. With us right now is a Republican, Senator Shelley Moore Capitol. Senator, welcome back. Thanks, Brian. Great to be in the studio.

Well, so I just got to tell you this: the inflation numbers came out about 90 minutes ago, and they're going to be challenging as the president's heads out to Corpus Christi. Producer prices rose 0.5 percent in January. According to the index published by the government, it's the biggest increase in four months and topped the 0.3 percent that Wall Street thought they'd have. The 12-month increase in wholesale prices was to happen, but inflation tends to show up first, and right now it eased to 2.9 percent from 3 percent.

So, the numbers show that inflation not tamed. But down. Yeah, I mean, I think that's troubling to the American public. Certainly where I live in the great state of West Virginia, and great to know we have a new station taking your shipping, which is good in Huntington. Love that.

But I think people are feeling, you know, pocketbook issues are always the electoral issues, but they're also what really challenges families. You know, think of the single mother with two kids trying to buy groceries, those kinds of issues or buy a car. And so certain indicators are down, such as gas and some food pricing. I saw mortgage prices came down at least a little bit yesterday were announced.

So that's good. That's all good. We just need to get the American people feeling this. And I think they will as they're looking at their tax returns. We see that people are filing earlier.

Their refunds are larger by immeasurable amounts. That's good. But day to day, unsteadiness is not our friend.

So what has the resurgence of coal done? Tangibly for West Virginia. Oh, coal has been, you know, it's an up, it's cyclical always, it has been, but certainly power coal, which generates a lot of heat here in the Northeast for a lot of people. I keep reminding all my Northeastern Senator friends who don't particularly like coal: hey, how's that windmill keeping you warm? I mean, I don't think so.

And so coal is also doing very well in the export markets for steel production. We have the metallurgical coal in West Virginia, which is the high-value coal.

So it's keeping our miners working. It's keeping the miners' wages have gone up over the last year about $1,400.

So wages are up in there, and we are able to capitalize on what we have as a great domestic market. Are environmental regulations still holding you back?

Well, the President has been very aggressive with Lee Zeldon in order to elongate the life of a lot of our coal plants. President Biden wanted to shut a lot of them down and really literally have them all shut down by 2035.

Well, that's on cold weather days, that's 28 percent of our energy mix. What are we going to replace this with? Our coal plants are really maximizing their use and with the President's anti-regulatory regime, they're able to stay online faster. They're cleaner.

So you've very felt it.

So we're definitely feeling it in a good way. Right. And the President's got probably more support in West Virginia than any other state in the country. I want you to hear what Austin Goolsby said about the economy prior to these numbers, but the numbers aren't really bad. They're just not trending in the right direction.

I think the economy has been solid. It's growing. Growth is decent. I think the job market has been stable. And the strongest thing we've got going is not AI data centers.

It is the American consumer. If you look at consumer spending, that was the thing that drove growth in 2025. And that's a traditional source of growth that's hopefully a little less bubble-oriented, a little less bubble-centric.

So I see steadiness, though with still continuing uncertainty when we're out talking to businesses, particularly about some policies like what is the tariff rate going to be in six months.

So he's a former economic advisor to President Obama and now Chicago Fed Reserve President. Right. Your thoughts on that. I think that's a great analysis from somebody who's probably always looking for the underside of what President Trump is doing. I think we are feeling that, but the American people have to really feel it on their everyday lives.

And they are spending. Americans are, I mean, I'm hearing indicators from big Companies that, you know, big consumer-oriented companies, people are spending, but they're maybe not as brand loyal as they used to be. They may be going to generic so their dollars can go a little bit farther.

So there's a confidence there that we see, but we need to, it needs to be more steady. And I think that's what he was saying. That's what I'm saying. But I really think that what we put in with the Working families tax cut bill is really starting to bleed into the economy, and we're going to see this really pick up. You know, no one talks about the shutdown.

I mean, the TSA, Suka Service, they're not getting paid. No. Starting today, they're going to miss their paycheck. It's terrible. I mean, we have a Border Patrol training center in Harpers Ferry where our local economy really picks our local economy up because a lot of people come in for training.

So they're staying at hotels. They're eating at our restaurants. We're starting to feel it economically. And that's a side negative to this DHS. Besides the safety issues, we have FEMA, public assistance checks that still haven't come out.

Now they're stuck. They can't do it. And these folks at TSA are always wondering if they're going to get paid. It's such a disservice. I mean, if the Democrats would just vote for the bill that they negotiated previous to a month ago, it has reforms in there that they want.

And by holding this up, they're not hurting. ICE and Border Patrol. We funded that in the Big Beautiful bill.

Well, they want changes. They want judicial warrants. They're not going to get that.

So, Chuck Schumer, tell me if this is right. Senator Schumer said we sent a proposal over to Senator Thune, and we're waiting for a response. Is that true? No, I don't think that's true. I think staffs are working on it, whether John Thune has reacted publicly.

I think I've heard him say that the judicial warrant, that's just a smokescreen for them to be able to hold this up, to keep an issue in front of the American public for political reasons.

So you have Tom Homan goes up to Minneapolis, makes changes, talks about body cameras, talks about more investigation onto incidents, talks about de-escalation training. These are the things that are already built into the bill that the Democrats agreed with six weeks ago. And so I think they're hanging on to an issue that really is going to hurt people when you see Secret Service. Coast Guard, think of disruption of drugs coming into this nation on the Coast Guard on the seas. To me, it's just a A very harmful exercise, and they've taken hostage some an agency that we really need.

Yeah, no doubt. No doubt about it. When we come back, Senator, you have another segment for us? When we come back, I want to talk about Iran, some of the risks would you think happening? Because you were in office during the Iraq war and the President's brilliant operation, taking out Sulamani and Maduro sitting in a Brooklyn prison.

So the President has proven internationally he's more than competent. In fact, I could say that he excels at it. His next move, probably the most difficult. This is the Brian Kilmeat Show. Newsmakers and newsbreakers.

Here at first on the Brian Kilmeat Show. Uh The more you listen, the more you'll know it's Brian Kilmead. I don't know who was calling significant progress from that meeting this morning. It sounds like it may have been the Iranians. Remember, they believed for 47 years that they can't win a war, but they can win any negotiation.

I think with Donald Trump, they're likely to lose both.

That is Senator Tom Cotton talking about negotiations that took place yesterday. And some of the things that have come out of the meetings, one in the morning, one in the afternoon. The Iranians had interesting things to say from morning to afternoon. They said after the first session, They said essentially it was odd because the Trump team didn't seem to agree on what their objectives were.

Well, in the afternoon, They wiped out that problem, and essentially they emerged saying that we're looking for zero enrichment for three to five years and minor enrichment for just medical reasons. That's not going to get it done. And we also know they say the American side wants to talk about ballistic missiles. Yes, of course. And financing of terror proxies.

They're not even talking about that. And the one thing that they've made it clear is there's going to be no sunset provision on any deal. That's what President Obama did. Senator Shelley Moore Capito is here, Republican out of West Virginia. Senator, your reaction from what you hear about the talks and where you think we're going in Iran.

Well, I think the President emphasized, and the Vice President did yesterday, that diplomacy is still the preferred route here. And I think that from the news that came yesterday, it appears as though there are still talks going on. First of all, you've got to remember these people lie all the time. I mean, they don't tell you the truth. And they're almost like Baghdad bobbish when they get out in front of the media.

I'm talking about the Iranians here because they're going to say what they think the Western media is going to want to hear, which is, oh, we're negotiating and we're making a deal here, when in reality, I'm not sure that's true.

Now, I'm obviously not privy to the talks. We can't have a nuclear Iran. We know that they're from the day they're born, it's death to America. And we can't just hide our heads in here and think, well, The world will not let them sustain that kind of terrorists. They're killing their own people right now into the tens of thousands who are protesting.

And they have a whole different value system than we have.

So you've got to start from that and then look at the terrorist groups that they're funding. The missile issue is huge. We cannot negotiate anything and say no nuclear enhancements without destroying the missiles, because the missiles are where the firepower is, so to speak, for the Iranians. But I'm going to choose to s say that the diplomatic route is the route. The preferable route, I don't know what the timing on this is, and I don't know how patient the President's going to be.

Here's what General Keene said. He gives no credence to these talks. Cut 28. Iran is already continuing to support the proxies in the region, which means at some point they will be upgunned again with a potential to attack Israel. And we've already have the evidence that Iran is willing to kill as many people as it takes inside their country to put down any idea of a protest or an internal regime change.

That is who we're dealing with. He just he just listen, he said, I don't think the talks have any chance at working. Yeah, I mean, that's discouraging to hear from him because I respect his opinion so much. At the same time, I'm going to listen to the President and the Vice President, and maybe they're sending signals of That to the Iranians, that this is the preferred route. You better listen to us.

I don't know, you know, with the positioning of all the assets in that region. You can't stay too long. No, you can't stay too long, and you can't leave it uncertain for too long. And so, I don't know, targeted at missile bases, targeted at the nuclear development. You know, they've made deals where they're not going to refine the uranium and get the nuclear fuel.

Well, they lie. They lie. Why do you build it in a mountain if you want to protect it? Oh, why was that hit that we did with Israel, whatever that was, a year and a half ago, so effective if there wasn't anything there? Right.

I mean, we're not stupid here.

So they just keep covering up to try to buy time to do what they want to do.

So we'll see what happens. That's probably the next big story. The president goes to Corpus Christi today. Senator, it looks like the Republican side will be Cornyn, it'll be Paxton, or it'll be Wesley Hunt. Who do you want?

Oh, I want Senator Cornyn. He has been a real champion for the President. He has been a steady leader, a steady hand. He is looked at and respected in many areas of particularly on the judicial side because he is a member of the attorney, obviously, but on the Judiciary Committee. He is strong.

He is able to. Forge compromise, which maybe that's a dirty word, but we're not going to. Compromise is important to be able to get strong legislation sometimes, and he can do that.

So he's the one that can win the general, too. And I want to keep the majority in the Senate, and Senator Cornyn's our pathway to that.

So you have an upstart Telecredo, or whatever his name is, as well as Crockett on the other side. Their turnout's been better than the Republican side.

So who do you worry about over there? It is just hard for me to believe that a state like Texas could send somebody like Crockett to the United States Senate. She seems like she's. Off a rocker some of the time, and so to speak. And so I just can't get what the mindset is here.

Do you want somebody who's an effective leader, or do you want somebody who's on TV all the time saying sometimes very bizarre things? The other person, Tallarocco, or whatever his name is, Tallerico, don't know him. He's painting himself more as a moderate. I don't think that's true. I still think Texas is very, very conservative, although there are projections that it is getting bluer because everybody's moving from California to Austin.

So, you know, we'll see. But I still think the Republicans are going to have the upper hand. But John Cornyn is the one that can win that with, I wouldn't say with ease. Nothing's going to be easy, but he'll be the most effective. And he also probably costs less money in the general if he's the candidate.

Yeah, because he'll look more assured. But I guess people are upset they did some gun legislation. But I thought it was reasonable considering that military officer went off. They did not have his military records. They let him, he had some psychological problems.

Problems in the military. He was able to bring his gun and he ended up shooting up a church. Right. So he said we want to make sure that those records transfer to the civilian world. Right.

And another part of that bill that we do all the gun checking and all the gun registration in West Virginia. The FBI Center is in West Virginia. It's hundreds, millions of these a year applications. It also says if you have a juvenile record that, say, when you're 17, you shot up a school, then that should be part of your record so that when you're 18, but now, before, you couldn't get access to those records.

So I don't know what the number is now, but it's probably 400 to 500 people in that category that had a violence in their younger years. Just because you turn 18, you don't leave that. I want to keep our schools safe. Yeah, and that's one of the ways to do it. I thought he did reasonable guns.

It was reasonable. Yeah. Senator Shelley Moore Capitol, always great to get. It's not red flags, I can tell you that. That's true.

By the hour, we talk wrestling, and that's very similar to politics, so we'll find out without the singlet. You'll listen to Brain Changes, Joe. If you're interested in it, Brian's talking about it. You're with Brian Kilmead. Hey, welcome back.

Uh, we got a lot going on today. Economic numbers are not great, not terrible, but the market's not loving it, down about 400 points. Um.

So we will uh look at that because the president's got to a trip to Corpus Krisky this afternoon, and he's going to make a speech there where the end of early voting happens today and Tuesday is the vote for the primary. They got a big turnout on the left, not a great one on the right, not a good sign in Texas, no reason to panic, but it's typical when you have a party out of power. But that whole Crockett telecredo race has gotten everyone's attention, especially after the intentional hiccups with Stephen Colbert. The left really doesn't want Jasmine Crockett to win. Because they know she's just a cartoon.

She's a cartoon of a lawmaker pretending to be some street girl when she's actually a very well-educated woman. Who says despicable things by calling a governor in a wheelchair? Governor Hot Wheels. Mean. They know that that's not electable in a place like Texas, and they think the other guy is.

And one of the things that they've said is that they've given the right. Remember Republicans. Religion. Why do we give up on religion?

Well, no one talks about religion on the left. But they should, if they want the Hispanic vote, number one, and number two, why would you give that up? And Texas, deeply religious.

So they have a little problem with the Sharia law things popping up now, which I can't believe is happening in Texas, but indeed it is.

So that's pretty clear. A couple of things stand out from that happened yesterday. As usual, in Donald Trump's world, nothing happens orthodox. The mayor of New York made it be clear he wants to come visit the president. At which time, Mayor Momdani, who if you're in New York, you know all of our greatest fears are being realized.

Because he's terrible for the cops, terrible for law and order, pro encampment when it comes to the homeless. We had 19 people freeze to death. He had two opportunities to back the cops. Both times he punted, he balked, he looked the other way, and I know he'll pay the price for that.

So, the president of the United States still saw him. They had a meeting. I think he asked for $12 million to build an apartment complex. He says, All right, I'm going to consider it. And They went.

And then the president of the United States, a couple of days ago, got a compliment from Governor Whitmer.

Now, why would he get a compliment from Governor Whitmer? Because Governor Whitmer over in Michigan is a beneficiary of a lot of his buildouts on his power plants, on his data centers. And here is what she had to say: here is Governor Whitmer, who went to the Oval Office early, especially because the President won Michigan. And George and Rogers almost won Michigan, and now he's going to go back. I think he's going to win this time and flip that seat.

Here's what she said yesterday: Michigan is open for business. New factories making batteries, cars, chips are opening in Marshall, Lake Orion, Holland, Bay City, Calumet, Hemlock, Ann Arbor, and Delta Township. Probably not on the bingo card, but I want to thank President Trump for his work on this. Why not do that? Especially here in Pennsylvania.

I think George Shapiro, George Sapiro, Josh Sapiro would do the same thing, would benefit himself the same way.

Meanwhile, Josh Shapiro. Is looked at as one of the frontrunners, according to the New York Times, number two likely to get the nomination as of now. Gavin Newsom, they say number one. And Josh Shapiro's got a problem in his party. They're very anti-Jewish, very anti-Israel.

He's Jewish and proud and pro-Israel. Number two is he's at war with Fetterman.

So Fetterman's a moderate, he could deliver some people for him, but they hate each other. What's that about? Also, he's got a book out. I know you haven't read it or bought it. But that would be an opportunity to talk more about, hey, President Trump called me after they burned down the governor's mansion.

I called him after the Butler, Pennsylvania shooting. You know, these are some of the things that people of Pennsylvania like that the president's doing. Here's where he's falling short.

So, and what I'm trying to say is that's how an effective politician used to work in a purple state like Pennsylvania. It was red, then it went heavily blue, then it pivoted to the inside, and Trump's delivered it two of three times.

So Then I would think that politicians would come out and say it.

So, Washington Post, I shouldn't say New York Times, Washington Post, they list the top. Contenders. And they say Newsom's number one right now. Josh Shapiro is number two. Kamala Harris is three.

Senator Mark Kelly of Arizona.

Now, when I looked at the comments below the articles, a lot of people saying positive things about Kelly. Pete Butterjudge was in New Hampshire the other day. Peep Buddha Judge, are you kidding? A terrible mayor, a awful lazy transportation secretary. J.B.

Pritzker, look at Illinois. Only thing people are good at in Illinois is leaving. Wally oversaw A city go to hell and let all these mayors, Ron Manuel is probably the best of the bad lot, just destroy it. Wesmore, did you see his biography? The pushback on what he says he accomplished and what he did in war and military in his education.

No one even, they didn't even write that up in the story. After Westmore comes Governor Bashir of Kentucky. Every time I say Governor Bashir is a moderate, I get blitzed by email saying, I'm in Kentucky. He is not a moderate. Ram Emmanuel Uh Rah Emmanuel is number nine.

And AOC is number 10. Followed by Governor Whitmer. Rokana. And that round, and Stephen A. Smith.

So, those are the top contenders. What do you think about that? All right.

This weekend, Saturday night, is going to be the latest incarnation of RAF, fastest-growing sport in the country, certainly the most exciting. They have two Division MMA world champion, Henry Sayedo. He's going to be out there wrestling today. But joining us now, the co-founder and CEO of Real American Freestyle, Chad Bronstein. Chad, you ready to go back into action?

Yeah. No, no, it's me and Santa Tenor Sejudo. Oh, okay. I thought we were getting chad. We just switched.

Henry, thanks so much for joining us. I know you're training. You've got your family, Seudu, Henry Seudo there. He's Olympic gold medalist, two division MMA world champion and RAF headliner. Henry, what is it like?

What's it like going into this as opposed to something when I see a mixed martial arts? Oh, it's great, man. I think a lot of times people don't think that a sport like the sport of wrestling could actually be corporate. But it has really uh taken uh Taking the, you know, the sports world by storm. You know, obviously the, you know, the passing of Hulk Hogan, it would have been, you know, one of the coolest things to be able to see.

Because a lot of these WWE wrestlers come from amateur wrestling. Yeah. So his spirit is living on. You know, it's unfortunate that Hulk was never really able to see the beginning stages of what RAF has been formed. But now it's just catching everybody by storm.

I mean, Dana White's taking a look at it. I mean, it is doing bigger numbers in the social media platform than any mixed martial arts company in the world, including the UFC.

So it's going to be at Mullet Arena in Tempe, Arizona.

Some tickets are available, but it's selling like crazy. It'll be Saturday night at 9 o'clock on Fox Nation, Real American Freestyle No. 6.

So this will be good.

So, Henry, were you at first in the wait-and-see mode, or were you always a believer when it came to the league? I mean, you want to say you're always a believer. You know, but it's not until you start seeing that, you know, these guys, the labor that they're putting in, the fact that they're putting their money where their mouth is, the theatrics, the lights, the stage, fighting the best wrestlers in the world to actually compete. I mean, that's the stuff that was interesting. A lot of people did not believe that this could be possible.

But now that it's here, I mean, it's a sold-out event. It is sold out. And it's so cool. It is so cool, Brian, the fact that it's a hybrid. It's a hybrid of amateur wrestling.

And what they do a lot, what they call what Chad Bronson has done, is he'll bring in a lot of mixed martial art world champions and they'll compete against each other.

So a lot of people that watch the support of mixed martial arts are watching it because they want to see their former champions. Go in as they watch a lot of the amateur wrestling guys come in and actually put on the show. Because if you go to the UFC, we became pretty clear when it launched. In the beginning, it's like, well, who's the best discipline? It's clear you can't be successful in the UFC if you can't wrestle.

You have to be comfortable wrestling, right? And then you develop the other skills.

So all of you have the foundation.

So you're going to be wrestling against Urzha Faber. What could you tell me about him? Yeah, it's uh he's he's tough. He's a former he's a former champ. For the WEC.

He's fought for the UFC title on a few occasions. Was never really able to win the belt. But he comes from a wrestling background, Wrestle Division I. The California kid is Uriah. It's Uriah Faber.

And he is somebody that has pioneered the sport of mixed martial arts. He got inducted. He was the first inducted to the USC Hall of Fame from 145 pounds down.

So, but I got to lay the hammer down to Brian. What are you weighing? What are you weighing right now? Enough to break the ice.

So, did you weigh in already?

So, you were okay? No, no, not yet. No, weigh-ins are tomorrow.

So, it's same-day same-day weigh-ins. And it's going to be really good, man.

So, you have, you know, you have Armisar Rukian, who is supposed to fight for the title, who is kind of being sidelined for a little bit by the UFC. He's competing in it. You have Alger May Sterling, another former UFC champion, going up against Benson Henderson, another former UFC champion.

So, the list goes on of names. And the beauty about what Real American Freestyle is doing is it's bringing eyeballs and attention. It's allowing these guys, these wrestlers from the Olympic level to no longer go in there and actually fight with fists, elbows, and knees, but to actually compete and continue their professional career.

So, by the way, is it hard not using those other skills that you have and get in your head that you're only wrestling and you don't just punch the guy? Yeah, no, well, my trait is wrestling.

Okay.

So I get it. I think it's more, I mean, I think he needs to kind of control himself.

So I want you to. But if it does turn into that, we're ready. All right.

So I want you to hear what Faber said about you, Cut 48. I'm excited to go out there and challenge myself against one of the best ever combat athletes, one of the best wrestlers of all time, proven with the gold medal. and someone that I have a lot of respect for. Henry is a guy that I've known for a very long time. He came in after he was a gold medalist and was kind of talking about wanting to get into boxing to get into MMA and came to visit my gym.

I think I was a world champion at the time and I was just encouraging him. I was saying, man, you do amazing in this sport. You should think about it. And he was like, ah, we'll see. We'll see where the money's at.

So do you remember? I'm sorry about the background music. That's the weirdest bed music ever, but it's kinda cool.

So so Henry, do you remember that interaction? I do. I do. And I was thinking I was thinking about the Olympus holding a box because of the because of pay, what's going on right now. in the sport of mixed martial arts and the different purse pay within a boxer and a wrestler.

But I knew that I was going to compete and actually fight. And I mean, it's fast forward. I mean, this is like 16, this is like 16 years ago. When we first bumped into each other. And it's amazing that now we need a chance to actually compete.

So, yeah, so I, you know, it's amazing, too. I know ESPN is making a bid for RAF. You know, I know Dana White is really interested in it. I love the fact that Dana lets you guys get in it. He says he loves combat sports and he wants to see it be successful.

Isn't that great, Henry? Oh, it's great. And I hope it stays like that, Brian. And I hope it stays like that, Brian, because It would be a shame 'cause, you know, it would be a shame if something like that would I didn't want to think about it. But who's next to you right now?

Is that your child, son or daughter? Yeah, my daughter. Man, my daughter's America. That's what I named. Can we say that?

Yeah, of course. America, come here. They want to see you. Is it okay or is she shy? Yeah.

Henry Seoudu is here. He's getting set on the table. I think now she's going like this.

So she's getting into the taunting game.

So that's going to be great. Oh, here you go.

So this is my daughter America. Oh, man. That's very patriotic of you. Yeah, America, how are you? Oh, she can't hear, right?

Which can she hear? No, she could hear, but maybe she's going to do that too. She probably doesn't. H how are you? My my daughter's actually trilingual.

Wow.

So she speaks English, Spanish and Portuguese. That is amazing. Yeah. So Henry, what is it like knowing your family's watching when you're fighting as opposed to when you first started wrestling, you know, just you out there and your maybe your parents, and now you have your kids? And your wife.

Yeah. Oh, it's it's special, honestly. Like we were thinking about, you know, having them stay. In, but I'm just like, no, they can stay up a few hours later than their actual bedtime because how many times they're going to watch me compete? And I want to be able to hug them, take a picture.

Whenever I flex, they flex with me.

So I'm excited for that. All right.

Awesome.

So, Henry, good luck. And you're going to stay with the RAF. And good luck today. It's obviously you're headlining this big event, the sixth ever, sold out at the Mowett Arena in Tempe, Arizona. The broadcast starts at 9 p.m.

this Saturday, the 28th. Yeah, no, thank you so much, Brian. I appreciate you guys. Make sure to download the app at Fox Nation. We're going to put on a show for you guys so you guys do not miss out.

All right.

And you know what? Don't win quick. I want to see all the periods. I want to see all three periods.

Okay.

Leave it to the end. Go get them. I'll think about it, Brian. I'll think about it. All right.

Tell America I said hi. It was great seeing her. She's beautiful. Back in a moment. Thank you.

Okay.

The headlines, the stories behind them, and the people who make them only on the Brian Kill Meet Show. Radio that makes you think. This is the Brian Kill Me Show. It then got at the end. Quite unusual because I started being asked about UFOs.

And a series of questions about Pizzagate. One of the most vile, bogus conspiracy theories that was propagated on the internet. That was serving as the basis of a member's questions to me. That is Hillary Clinton yesterday saying, I wanted to do this in public. She wants to be relevant again.

They wanted to question Bill, so they told Hill. The one thing the Republicans should have seen coming, the minute Bill and Hillary Clinton were forced to testify when it realized they were going to be subpoenaed and you could go to jail like Steve Bannon. They said, okay, let's do a deal. And they did a deal. They'd go up to Chappaqua and they would interview her there.

But it would open the door to say, I want President Trump to testify. And he'll say, well, I'm a sitting president.

Well, when he's done. But if the Republicans win the House, just so you know, if you're thinking about it, if you're independent, if you're undecided, Republicans lose the House, this is all it's going to be. They're not going to look to produce anything, compromise anything. If the Republicans lose the House, they are going to nonstop investigation and they're going to just say, we want Donald Trump to testify about Uh about the Epstein stuff. But the Epstein side, it's one after another.

Trump was 100% right about one thing, especially when it comes to Epstein. There's going to be a lot of people whose names are in that. They're going to be paying a price. This guy, Borge Brenderson, who's he?

Well, Borge Brenderson is the CEO for the last eight years of the World Economic Forum. He popped up in the Epstein files. It doesn't look salacious. But it looks like he's cavorting with uh Maxwell and Epstein. He resigned.

You got Mendelssohn. Who seems like a pretty complicit in every step of the way? The ambassador to England, from England to the U.S., gone. Uh he's got to be charged and you got to of course You have the Prince Andrew, no longer Prince Andrew.

Now he's assuming he's going to be convicted. He looks really complicit in all this. And then you have. Peter Attia, longevity expert, unbelievably bright and smart. His book's been a bestseller for what, two years?

three years. He's got a contract with CBS, gave that up, as done. He was cavorting with Epstein, I think it was after he got arrested.

So that I didn't even know Peter T. and Epstein were on the same planet. They're three thousand miles away. But it goes to show you the rich, the famous, the powerful all know each other. And these are all parties you get invited to.

You don't really do background checks on them. That's why people were kissing up to Weinstein for years, but they also knew that he was an unsavory guy, unethical guy, doing some crazy things. But they say, well, he makes a lot of movies and I'm an actor and I'm a producer. I'm an investor. He's got good parties.

And I go. But now you've seen this all come together. I can't believe how many people this guy interacted with. The former CIA director, William Burns. He gets out.

And after getting out of the CIA, he wants to get into the private sector. You know what they say? Contact Jeffrey Epstein. But he knows everybody.

So he's in the Epstein files. Crazy. You listen to the Brian Kilmey Show. I want to make sure I see you in person in Reno, Nevada. It's going to be live on stage, a stage show like no other.

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And I have insight like you won't believe. From the Fox News Radio Studios in Midtown Manhattan, it's the fastest growing radio talk show. Brian Kilmead. It's not. It's not Brian Kilmead.

It's Shannon Breen because Brian Kilmead decided he was going to go take a restroom break, get a massage, pick up some snacks. I don't know where he is, but I'll be sitting right here talking about things I want to talk about until Brian gets back. Really? And what do you want to talk about? I'm back, but I'm curious.

What's on your mind? Do you want to talk about lip gloss, my new lip gloss? It looks good. It looks great. It's glossy, but not too much.

Right, right. It's just understated. Yeah, you don't want people saying, who's the woman with lip gloss? But you want people saying, I like that woman, and she has lip gloss. She's fresh and appealing.

Yeah, fresh and appealing. You know what I did? I was told to get more protein, but I don't eat red meat.

So they said, why don't you uh try bone broth? And it's great. But I was out. Literally, just like a soup kind of thing. I know everybody's into it.

I'm late to the game. Oh, really? Can you see that? That looks sort of chunky. What are the chunks in?

Well, I haven't started yet. I mean, I had a lot of fun. I feel like bone broth is going to be something clear. Look at chicken noodle soup minus a noodle. This is so hot.

It looks like there might be some nuggets of something floating around in there. I'm going to stir it. I should have people. Pete, you should be stirring. You should be stirring.

Pete, do you want to add to your long list of things you do to make Brian's life livable? You're not going to have to stir his head. With streaming, you can read. You understand my whole resume. It's going to be bone broth stir.

Bone broth chunk stir. That's what it's going to be. But I want you to create the whirlpool without splashing over the sides. That's all it is. And preserving the nuggets.

Right. So, Shannon, how are you? What brings you to New York? Are you doing the five? I'm doing the five.

I'm going to do America Reports Day. I'm doing all kinds of things. Are you hosting America Reports? No, no, no, but I'm going to show up and see if Sandra has any questions for me. All right.

Well, that's good.

Sometimes she'll just go, got nothing. And then I'll start talking about chunky bone broth. That's going to be my topic for today. I'm pretty sure John Roberts wouldn't allow that.

Well, I feel like those two are pretty healthy. They probably know the bone broth thing better than I do. Yeah, you know, I was in Washington, did not see you. I didn't see a motherfucker. I did not appreciate that, by the way.

I know that's not the problem. Were you even in the building? Of course, I was. And I did hear you running among the halls a little bit. And I was like, I wonder if he's going to come see me.

And then my heart was broken when I realized the answer was no. Can I say this? I get lost in the Bureau. They did such a good job. I have no idea where anything is.

Likely story. Do you? Do you know how to ask someone, hey, where's Shannon Breams off? Right. And then what if they say Don't know.

I don't really. The big-time network anchors don't really want people dropping in on them than Dan Rather never did. Dan Rather. I'm more of a Walter Cronkite. Really?

You think you'd drop in on Cronkite if you just? I think you probably have to make an appointment. Right. See? But, you know, go through my assistant.

If I have time, we'll make it work. And it probably wouldn't have.

So this is going to be very interesting. I really get the sense of TikTok countdown towards a conflict in Iran. It feels like Venezuela. It feels like Operation Midnight Hammer. Do you too?

It does. It does. And we know that the head of CENTCOM, of course, has briefed the president. He knows what his options are. He's got just about everything in the region he could need if there's going to be a kinetic strike.

So, listen, we're told they're going to have talks in Vienna next week. Do we get that far? Or does something happen this weekend?

So we also saw that Admiral. Cooper came. Brad Cooper.

So he Admiral Brad came and visited the President yesterday because he's the head of the Middle East.

So you have General Donahue, who's head of Africa, as well as Europe. Europe's not playing a role. I mean, this is our first joint, this will be our first joint military strike, besides the two days on Operation Midnight Hammer, with Israel. I mean, I'm sure we're coordinating. And I don't think there's a better military pound for pound in the world aside from us in Israel, and nobody has better intelligence there.

Doesn't mean this is not without risk. And I'm getting some words that the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff is worried about the risks.

Well, we have heard that. And then you saw some of the social media response from the White House, from the president saying, you know, Raisin Cain is with us. We're on the same page. This is all good. But it's his job to tell the president about the potential risk.

And I'm sure that he's had a very honest conversation with him.

So in talking with Senator Shelley Moore Capital, she goes, you know, we know the danger of Iran, absolutely. But politically, people are more concerned about the economy.

So it's a bit of a political risk for the president, but he does not like to go in halfway. If he's going to do it, it's going to be sustained until the operation's over, but it's not going to be years. I want you to hear what General Keene, because somebody, are you booking him? I think we have General Kellogg this weekend. Which is great for us.

We love General Keene. I don't think he was available. And General Kellogg, of course, was in charge of Ukraine until recently. Cut 29 is General Keene seeing this as a window, an opportunity. An historic opportunity because Iran is vulnerable and weak, weaker than they've ever been in the 46-year history of the regime.

Right now, today, That gives us up an opportunity to put in place a comprehensive joint operation with Israel to really set the conditions for a regime change.

So, and he's exercised about it. I mean, and he has read in, he's got great contacts with prisoners. Yeah, and the question is: what comes next? You know, there are a lot of people who feel like, I need to hear more from the president. We thought we might get more at the State of the Union to explain why this moment, why now, why this is so elevated at this moment in time, and what comes next.

Of course, if you get rid of the mullahs and the Ayatollah, that would be a huge blessing and gift to the people there. I mean, so they can have freedom, so they can breathe. And we don't know what comes next, though. I mean, you have a regime that is remarkably unpopular with its people, and you're seeing that. That's not spin.

But the one thing that did not help them is when Steve Witkoff came out and said, oh, they're a week away from a nuclear weapon. No, they're not. Either that or either that. Last year wasn't truthful. I mean, it's one of the two.

Or it just wasn't accurate. I mean, either we blew up the entire program for a sustained period of time, or we didn't. And now we have to do this, which is why I think so many people want a better explanation on why this moment. Do you think my feeling is it's not going to happen before, it could be during and after? Because they want to have that element of surprise.

Ellie Kohanan, who's the former State Department Deputy Chief Envoy to combat anti-Semitism, said this about what Iran's doing with China. CUT 32. China has been Iran's leading buyer of oil. And it is how they fill the state coffers. It's how they pay for their terror proxy activity.

It's how they pay for the IRGC, the Best Siege militia, which has been killing Iranians on the streets, 36,000 protesters.

So oil is a very big part of this picture. And I just had Michael Rubinan, who was born in Iran or spends considerable time in Iran in Iraq, he had a big role. And he said that if you can corral the oil field and then control it, the oil. Really control the country. That seems to be very much up Trump's alley.

It does, but it begs these questions of people who said, We don't want to be involved in any more foreign conflicts, or what are we doing with Venezuela? What's the next step in regime change? There, fair elections, that kind of thing. Do we want to get involved in controlling the oil fields in Iran? I mean, for a lot of people, they voted for this president and this vice president who said they didn't want these foreign entanglements.

And Vice President Vance has said, Anything we do in Iran, if it turns into a strike, it is not going to be a prolonged thing. He says, quote, no way on that. Um but once we get involved Yeah. Yes, but the President's also got elected to solve problems. And Venezuela is a problem.

Cuba is a problem. And Iran is a premier problem. And the challenge is Russia and China. There are Direct adversaries, competitors, pick a word. But you cannot have any semblance of order in the Middle East.

You're not going to be, we're going to be redoing the Iranian support and the militia attacks. every three or four years. And Trump, I think, sees himself in a unique opportunity to make history not without risks. And they're going to be targeting our 40,000 troops in the region.

So it's going to be. As General Keene says, sometimes you have to fight war to get peace.

So that's really what we're seeing. Here's Naftali Bennett. He's a former Prime Minister of Israel, who might be the next one. I know he's running. Cut 23.

We have to be prepared one way or another. In effect, the ten million Israelis living here in Israel, we are the boots on the ground of the free world. We are the ones who'll pay the price of any retaliation or something of that sort. But we understand that it's a price that we are willing to pay in order to remove this threat from the world. And that's what you're probably going to be talking about on Sunday.

It's either going to be more looming or active. I mean, it's an existential threat to Israel's existence. Iran is, and all of the proxies that flood out from Iran and what it funds and what it does. We know that. We're going to talk about it with General Kallog.

We're going to have Tim Kaine with us, a strong foreign policy voice for Democrats and also Dave McCormick from the other side of the aisle. And we'll try to see where we're at. But there's so many other issues. This is the headline. But DC is dealing with so many other things that we've got to get to.

Yes. How about DHS and opening it up? When you traveled here, did you take the train? Uh, no, 'cause I was in Dallas and I felt like it would take too long. We get here.

Okay.

Could have saved some money. I did fly. I was going to get a covered wagon from Texas. That would save a lot of money. That would save a ton of money, but I wouldn't be here by now.

So I haven't run into the trouble yet with TSA, but they're going to start missing paychecks now. And remember, air traffic controllers and all that. They're angry anyway. They are, and they're frustrated because more than half of America lives paycheck to paycheck. They tell us that.

The numbers show us that. And so for people, even if they're going to get paid back like they do after a government shutdown, They are going to be missing rent and groceries and that kind of stuff. Remember last time people were taking second jobs as door dashers and all kinds of things. That's not sustainable for you to work two jobs all day long and only get paid for sort of one. Yeah, you're not talking about dining dash, and you're not talking about DoorDash.

Yeah, DoorDash. It's not like one of those things where you go to the restaurant and they run out. No, but you listen, you're. Forcing the people maybe into that because they're not getting their paychecks. That's one way.

We don't want people to feel like they have to go there. Say that. But if they don't catch you, you're free. Absolutely. But you're probably caught on some doorbell camera.

So, President Trump. Uh Talked about the ruling at the State of the Union address. I always think about you as a judicial correspondent in the Supreme Court, and I thought he was going after the justices. It's pretty, I think, mild. Let's hear.

Yeah, okay. This is from the press conference.

Okay, this is last Friday. Not mild. Yeah, not mild. Let's listen.

Well, thank you very much for being here. The Supreme Court's ruling on tariffs. is deeply disappointing. And I'm ashamed of Certain members of the court, absolutely ashamed. for not having the courage to do what's right for our country.

I'd like to thank and congratulate Justices Thomas, Alito, and Kavanaugh. for their strength and wisdom. and love of our country. which is right now very proud of Those justices. He went on.

He was angry. He did. There was talk of foreign influence, of them being lapdogs and rhinos, and all kinds of stuff like that. But It's interesting because Democrats were loving the Supreme Court last Friday. And so, like I asked, you know, minority leader Nakeem Jeffries was on with us Sunday.

And I'm like, does this mean you're going to stop talking about packing the court and term limiting and everything else? I mean, people are happy with the court when it sides their way. They're angry with it when it doesn't. They just try really hard not to listen to the noise and to be as apolitical as possible. Were you surprised?

And people keep bringing this up. I said there's a downside to it, but they didn't say what should happen to the money they collected. A little bit, because during the arguments, there had been a lot of discussion. How do we undo this? Justice Barrett was one who mentioned this is going to be a mess.

So we thought there might be some guidance. There was a question whether the court made the ruling prospective. And I don't know how you could do that to say, oh, what you did under AIPA was illegal, but it only counts moving forward.

So I think the court said that's not our job. Our job is to read the law and tell you whether you violated it or not. It's not our job to tell you what to do with the repercussions of this. Right. So I think the administration should not wish for that.

'Cause imagine if they said it's you can't do it. And you got to return the money. There'd be no contest. It would save a lot of litigation, which is going to waste a lot of money over the next few years.

So far we have FedEx and we have Senator Schumer saying return $1,700 to every American. But have you seen many other lawsuits? Yeah, there were hundreds of companies that had already begun to file their claims with CBP because it would come back through customs and border protection, these refunds. At least that's the first bite at the apple to go there. And they wanted to be in the front of the line in case SCOTUS did what it did.

So there are already a lot of companies in line.

Now, whether they go formal litigation like FedEx, I think there's going to be plenty of that as well. What they might go for a settlement? Possibly. I mean, here's the thing. During the lower court cases fighting on these tariffs, the Trump administration had made the representation to the courts: we will pay out to these plaintiffs if we ultimately lose the Supreme Court.

Now, that's just a handful of people, those plaintiffs. This was not a class action suit.

So, that was my question to Ambassador Greer.

Okay, you've already told these plaintiffs: if we lose, we're going to give you your money back.

Well, then, what's your argument against the hundreds, if not thousands, of other companies that are going to come and say, okay, you lost, it's time to pay us back?

Well, how about the trade deals that were cut? And to get them to the table, you had to say 20% tariffs or 100% tariffs.

So, South Korea, Japan, the EU, UK, Uh they just did Indonesia.

So what about those deals? India? India said we're putting off, they were supposed to come on Monday, they put off their visit, the EU put off their vote. But those trade deals are still standing. Will they be impervious from the decision?

Aaron Powell, the president has so many other levers.

So some of those deals that were already set and made, they can't say, oh, well, we made that deal because we thought that these IEPA things were going to be bad for us. You made a deal. And the administration has said very clearly: hey, countries out there that made a deal, we expect you to live up to them. But they have so many other levers now with these tariffs that they can think that they're going to be able to get to where they were under IAP. It's just going to be more complicated and take time.

But don't they evaporate in three months? Trevor Burrus: Some of them do.

Some of them require congressional reauthorization, and that's going to be really tough to get it. Good luck for that. Yeah. And some of them are limited on the amounts that you can do.

So there are real challenges with it. Trevor Burrus: So, Congressman Rodriguez, who I. Is it Rodriguez? L on the border. He's had problems with, I guess, a girlfriend who lit herself on the farm.

Tony Gonzalez. Gonzalez, I should say. And who's a real strong voice, a military veteran, very good on the border. How much pressure is he under to resign? He is, but remember, as you well know, and as our listeners all know.

That GOP margin is so tight that there's not going to be pressure on him from the GOP to go. And what the speaker says is, I have a consistent position. I also advocated for George Santos before he was actually convicted of anything that he shouldn't go. And he said, you know, we can't have members just getting kicked out because there are allegations against them.

So that's his position on Gonzalez, too. He's not going to pressure him as far as I know, saying there's been no conviction. There's no, you know, fact-finding of wrongdoing.

So we're not going to push him out.

So who's on your show Sunday that you know of? It is going to be General Kellogg. It is going to be Senator Kaine. It's going to be Senator McCormick. We also have Michael Watley, former chair of the RNC, who's running for a Senate seat down in Texas, I mean, trailing in North Carolina.

And that's a seat Republicans really need to hold on to if they're going to control the Senate moving forward.

So we'll talk to him about the challenges.

So the chance to flip in New Hampshire, chance to flip in Michigan for Republicans, but they're under pressure everywhere. And Texas is a lot messier than it should be. For Republicans. Unless it's Senator Cornyn. Senator Cornins seems to have the best path in the general, but the hardest path in the primary.

Yeah, and so they go to the polls Tuesday. We should know whether they go to a runoff because if you have nobody getting to 50 plus one, you're going to go to a runoff, which is more money the GOP has got to spend down there. Right. And Wesley Hunt, we can't forget. Shannon Breen, we're going to watch you on Sunday, wherever you are.

Where are you going to be on Sunday? I'm going to meet Sunday at 10 o'clock. My first guest is going to be H.R. McMaster. Gonna call Rove on this Texas race.

And I'm going to talk about the cartels from someone who used to be right in there dealing with Mexico and how bad this whole thing is going to be. Wasn't that crazy over the last week down there? It's crazy. It's life and death and it's terrifying. UCIA says, thank me.

I'm the one who told you where to get that guy.

So, all right, well, dance party on Sunday night? No dance party. I'm going to keep answering. I'm asking until you say yes. I never met a dance for that did me any good.

Back in a moment. Bye. It's Brian Kilmade. Uh Breaking news, unique opinions. Hear it all on the Brian Kill Me Show.

I don't really have a response. Like, it's unfortunate, you know, the conversations surrounding it, like, where it's gone throughout social media. But you know, all I can say is like I Never been more proud to pull on the USA Jersey. And I think for a lot of us, like it's the honor of a lifetime to represent our country on the biggest stage. And we went over there with one thing in mind to bring home a gold medal for our country.

And pretty incredible that we got to do it men's and women's. That's the first time that we've ever, ever done that. And she wants to move past. That's Megan Keller, women's USA women's hockey player, scored the winning goal to give them the gold medal and beat Canada also in overtime. And she wants to get back to playing professional women's hockey.

And she wants some attention on the Boston Fleet, the team that she's the captain of, and was saying enough about the controversy, about the president's joke, that the men laughed at and didn't stop, I guess. But, you know, if you look at the situation, you totally understand it. And the guy, bottom line is the men and women got along great. They stayed right next to each other in their dorms. They went to all each other's games.

So you're not going to create a rift between them. I just hope they all go to the White House. It would be great. I know there's some snowboarders that aren't going to go, but I hope they all do. Listen to Brian Kill Me Chow.

When we come back, More breaking news. Don't move. The fastest three hours in radio. You're with Brian Kilmead. This program is actually something I started when I was state treasurer of West Virginia, the Jumpstart Savings Program.

And it comes from my experience as a welder. That's actually how I started my career. I was a welder. I went to trade school, went out, and was working in the trades there. And what this does is it allows individuals to save for tools, equipment, licenses, certifications, and most importantly, new business startup costs.

Because in the trades, a new business can cost anywhere around $100,000 to get going. And so it mirrors somewhat of the 529 college savings plan, which I used to manage at the state level. And it does also allow individuals to roll over tax-free. 529 college savings money into one of these jumpstart accounts.

So it has the same tax benefits as it relates to capital gains. That's pretty cool, right? Jumpstart Savings Act for people that want to go to trade school or change their mind from going to college to 529s or 4. I had three of them going, just finished them off. And you could always transfer that.

Why not take it the rest of the way?

So, for high school kids, you know exactly where you're heading. For the parents of kids who want to go into the trades, you'll have a program to jump into. Mike Rowe knows all about it. He's the founder of Mike Row Works, named after himself. He does that a lot.

He's the CEO there. Hosts of people you should know. He came up with that idea and he came up with that idea too. His name will eventually be on that, too. He's definitely the host and executive producer.

Mike, welcome back. Oh, well, it's great to see you and hear you, ideally at the same time.

So first off, now everyone's calling you, Mike. In the beginning, you're like, we should go back to the trades. Then now, all of a sudden, you basically need another phone because everyone's calling you: can I get electricians? Can I get pipe fitters? Can I get plumbers?

Not a week goes by. I don't hear from the not just a company, but like the leader. Of an essential industry, and they are freaking out. The math is no longer deniable. You know, five retire, two come in, five out, two, and it's been that way for over a decade.

Throw in the stigmas and the stereotypes and all the nonsense that surrounds these careers historically, and you can start to understand why suddenly we've got millions of openings. The crazy thing is, AI comes along, turns everything on its head. And now there's this understanding that, oh man, you know what? We told everybody to code.

Well And nobody to weld.

Well, they're not coming for the welders, man. They're coming for the coders. And so everything's upside down. The skills gap is massive. The marine industrial base needs 400,000 workers.

To build nuclear subs like CNC operators and welders and electricians. The data centers are just, the demand is off the charts.

So, yeah, you know, the headlines caught up with my modest little attempt to shine a light on these jobs. And so I'm talking to Wells Fargo and BlackRock and NVIDIA, and they're paying attention too. The Department of War is paying attention. And that congressman that you just. Highlighted Riley Moore.

He's got his head screwed on straight, man. This is a great way to focus on a barrier to entry that a lot of tradespeople experience when they try and hang out their own shingle.

So it's really a love letter to skilled trades and entrepreneurship at the same time, which is why I'm pulling for him and hoping people hop on board and get this thing through Congress. Have you noticed more kids? I know you got 2,700 roughly students that you help pay for their trade school tuition. Are you getting more applicants? We're up to 3,400 now.

Yeah, we've got This year, my goal is $10 million in work ethic scholarships. Last year, we did five. The year before that, we did two and a half, maybe two.

So, yeah, the applications were 10x last year.

So, that's good. I mean, Gen Z is getting the memo. A lot of parents and guidance counselors and teachers, I think, have gotten the same memo, which basically says, hey, $1.7 trillion in collective student debt is a problem. You know, we're lending all kinds of money we don't have to these kids to train them for jobs that don't exist anymore.

Meanwhile, the trades are on fire. People aren't trained for them yet. I don't even know that we have enough human capital standing by to fill the gap. But You're turning around a tanker. Right.

I mean, it's perceptions and hearts and minds and ideas and beliefs. Those things don't change overnight. But yeah, to your earlier point, you know, we've been at it 17 years. And even though I did put my name in the title of the foundation, um Well, you know what, to be honest, it was supposed to be M-I-C-R-O. Micro works, like a small.

Attempt to help one individual at a time. Bill Gates was going to sue me, so I just went with my name and it stuck. But call it what you will, the skills gap is real. And the memo is out, and people are paying attention. And I think you're going to see.

I mean, you've heard my smack for years now, but the chickens have come home to roost. This is going to be a Manhattan-style project with regard to retraining the entire country. And, you know, my prediction is next time you and I sit down in person, I want to tell you about what a lot of individual companies are doing on their own to close the gap. And I don't have any relationship with Home Depot, for instance. They've got a great program.

Caterpillar has an internal program. Palantir is taking kids right out of high school, giving them a liberal arts background, and then teaching them something really useful. These kids are hitting the job market, making a few hundred grand a year with a decent background in Western civilization and zero debt.

So I think you're going to see a massive retooling of the way we think about education, the way we define a good job. And yeah, my scholarship program just happened to be sitting there at the right time, and we are flooded. Overwhelmed, and I'm happy to tell you that. I know they're big, have a huge data center being built in Louisiana right now, but listen to Governor Gretchen Whitmer yesterday talking about what's happening in Michigan. Listen.

Michigan is open for business. New factories making batteries, cars, chips are opening in Marshall, Lake Orion, Holland, Bay City, Calumet, Hemlock, Ann Arbor, and Delta Township. Probably not on the bingo card, but I want to thank President Trump for his work on this. So there you go. I mean, they're going to need some people.

There's no robots for that. No, there's not. And look, I doubt that the governor and I agree on a whole bunch of stuff, but credit where it's due. You know, it's this truly Should be. One of the last great nonpartisan, unifying things that people on both sides of the aisle can truly get behind.

Again, because in the end, it's math, dude. It's math. We're fighting, we're having less kids. The world is, there's a whole population collapse narrative that's not getting nearly enough press either. And it's impacting our country too.

So there's just so many reasons to take a deep breath and think differently. About how to train this next generation. And I don't care if there's an R or a D, you know, next to your name. That's something to stand for. If you'll pardon the metaphor, vis-a-vis half of the Congress's inability to get on their feet just two nights ago.

Mike, I'm going to bring you to another area I'm not sure if you want to dive into, but on energy.

So on energy, the President says, listen, I'm for oil and gas. And I just had the West Virginia Center in there and they're mining again and the coal workers are going the coal miners are going to work again. And now we're hearing less and less about foreign companies building windmills off our shores. Have you felt yet people want to go back into energy? I did a shoot over in Midland, Texas, and they were saying that a whole generation's been told don't follow your parents' footsteps into oil and gas.

Uh go to college, uh that's ruining the planet. When guys like Bill Gates say, maybe I overstated it. And we're seeing that Paris climate change. No one's even yelling at Trump about getting out of it again. Has that transferred over to the blue-collar world?

It's getting there, man. I'll tell you, one of the most consequential conferences I've been to two in the last year. One was an energy summit in Pittsburgh in July. That's the one where 35 CEOs pledged $93 billion simply for Pennsylvania to build out AI. Or data centers there.

The president was there at that one. That was huge. And that exact topic came up. But when I left, I was like, you know something? That ship is turning around too.

A lot of air is leaking out of climate catastrophism. The other conference is one you should know about. That's coming up early this April. My friend Alex Epstein puts it together in Newport. There'll be a couple hundred CEOs there as well.

And this will be the topic. It just one of the great lies that has been purported and put upon us Has been this idea that fossil fuel is somehow our enemy and somehow the harbinger of the end of the world. It's not. No crystal ball. But I I think energy independence is going to go back near The top of the list, and you know what else you're going to be hearing about real soon is metal independence, rare earths, these things.

Yeah, I'm up to my neck in this. That's a polymetallic nodule. Like golf ball size, billiard size, little sphere. They are. on the bottom of the ocean.

hundreds of billions of them. These things are packed with nickel. Cobalt. Manganese Copper All the stuff we need. A year ago, in April, the president signed an EO, and we're going to go get them.

I mean, the insides of these things are unbelievable, Brian. That's a chunk of a megalodon tooth, and the metals form around it like a pearl. And they're sitting there at the bottom of the ocean.

So you're going to hear. In the next couple of months. A real shift in the energy narrative. You're going to start hearing about metal independence. Going to be a thing and all that.

Needs hundreds of thousands of workers as well. Everything comes back to workforce. And in the end, look, I'm MicroWorks. I got 10 million in a fund to help train these people. We need macro works.

We need the biggest companies in the country coming together with the help of the feds. To jumpstart this thing, which brings us back to the name of the bill that Riley Moore is trying to get through Congress, and I hope to God he does. All right.

For number one, that's a challenge to John McEnroe, because I think that would be an interesting fund. If it's going to be Mike Rowe, you want Mac Rowe. I say McEnroe, and maybe he can take it up. Number two is: you would love Doug Bergham. Because Doug Berger is a rare earth guy.

That's his mission now. Because China sent us a message. We're going to cut off rare earth if you keep those tariffs on. And we realize they have 90% of the world's rare earth. That can't happen anymore.

We've cut massive deals. I think it was Indonesia, now with Australia, now with Argentina, to start mining with them. And get this, Mike. Maybe mining here, people might see the benefit of that.

So I 100% think this is we have to do it for national security. And I think this administration gets it.

Okay.

I think you're right. And Doug is definitely on the list. I've met with Pete several times over at the Pentagon. Chris Wright is certainly on board. Howard Lucknick gets it.

They're all singing out of the same hymn book. But yeah, Doug is playing a really important role in this. And I haven't had a chance to really sit down with him yet. He may be at that conference I mentioned. We sat across the aisle from each other at the funeral of the great Clint Hill, who died.

Later last year, Yeah, man. He he was the guy that dove on top of Jackie Kennedy after her husband was murdered back in '63 and just a legend in the Secret Service. Great North Dakota guy. Yeah, so Okay, so I want you to hear this.

So we watch business work with this administration. And then we watched the last administration go after the President and his allies and debank them, literally say, if you work with President Trump, JPMorgan, Bank of America, they froze and kicked out all their funds. This is what I worry about.

So I don't know who Jeff Bezos is going to work with, who he voted for, but he's working with the president. I looked at Meta, Zuckerberg, whatever, the Zuckerbergs. He's like, I need to work with the president, these rare earth, these gas and oil companies. But then I'm hearing this. This is what worries me.

It's going to drive you nuts as someone who just wants to get things done for the country. Listen to Susan Rice. I think they're now starting to realize: wait a minute. You know, this is not popular. Trump is not popular.

What he is doing, whether on the economy and affordability or on immigration now, is not popular. And that there is likely to be a swing in the other direction. And they are going to be caught. uh with more than their pants down. they're going to be held accountable.

As I talked to Leaders in Washington, leaders in our party, leaders in the States. If these corporations think that the Democrats, when they come back in power, are going to play by the old rules and say, oh, never mind, we'll forgive you. I think they've got another thing coming. That attitude is sickening. If I'm a business person, Government has a lot of control over me.

Now you're going to go after me because I did business with the party that had and a president that had the power? Does that bother you? It bothers me. Sure, it bothers me. But she's she's She's playing a different game with different rules.

That's a very political thing to say, and it's a very. Short term. way to think. I'm telling you. I believe genuinely, like you, maybe a conversation like that was happening, you know, as the atomic bomb was being.

Uh built. You know, I don't know, but I think There was a great quote years ago by um Oh, the prime minister after Neville Chamberlain. What was it? Howard Macmillan. You know, he was asked.

A question by a reporter concerning the immediate future and why he was unwilling to commit. To a hard and fast plan. And his quote was: Events, dear boy. Events in the end All that bluster, all that stuff, it gets trumped, if you will, every generation or so by an event, by something truly existential. Maybe it's polymetallic nodules, maybe it's energy independence, maybe, as I think, I think it's workforce.

I think it's the terrible arithmetic, the human arithmetic. Great book, by the way, by Nick Eberstadt. But we're dealing with that right now. And all of that, oh. Wait till the next party gets in, this and that.

Sure, that's consequential. And in the near term, it can have an impact, I guess, on a businessman's decision. Long term, it's forget it, man. That's table stakes. Can't believe I had Mike Rowe.

I had uh uh I had a Like I had visuals. You had rare earth. For a rare interview. And we have John McEnroe's been called out to start a MacrowWorks like Mike. You got it.

Mike, thanks so much. Help him out. Help out get his scholarship. Mike Work MicroWorks. Uh dot com, right?

If people want to contribute to the ethnics uh to microworks.org. Yeah, I'll take your money. We're raising all kinds of it, but I also got ten million earmarked for the kind of jobs we've been talking about. The scholarship program is open. I'm keeping it open all year.

Nice. Go get some. Absolutely. Back in a moment. From breaking news to big name guests, Brian brings you insight you won't hear anywhere else.

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So yeah, two things that really stood out yesterday and laying the groundwork for today. The president shocked everyone. Mondami, he continues to be friendly with him, even though he's doing a terrible job. He came in and wanted this contribution from the federal government to build housing if he would cut regulation. President's entertaining it.

He also helped a problem with a Columbia student who hasn't been, reportedly, have her visa updated since 2016.

So they were going to deport her or pull her out of the school. The president put a hold on that, even though she's still going to have a hearing. That's something because a socialist just decided to treat the president with respect, and he's actually answered that. Governor Whitman comes out of her way and says, Look, we've got a whole bunch of factories opening up and data centers. I'd like to thank the president for that.

I like that trend. President's got his handful today. Did not get great economic news and got to talk about the economy in Corpus Christi, Texas. Big primary coming up. Don't forget to watch One Nation Sunday at 10 p.m.

and check out Mike's shows in Evansville, Indiana in July and Arena, Nevada into May. This has been the Brian Killmeat Show.