Shutdown Looms as House Democrats Battle DHS Officials

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So, Captain Mayor Brian Kill Me Joe coming your direction. This hour, we're going to be joined by Lieutenant Colonel Alan West about what's going on in Texas. Are they really just a two-point generic advantage for Republicans in that bright red state? Is it still bright red? Is it the Hispanic vote?

He is chairman, excuse me, he's Dallas County Republican Party chair first in American Constitutional Rights Union Executive Director, also tap into his military background. We are also following a couple of big, big conferences today that the Democrats are going to look to pile on as they go ahead and try to skewer ice as officials come up to Capitol Hill to define exactly what they've been doing, how they're doing it, and how the sanctuary cities are affecting them. And we're also going to be looking at a very look very closely at a big-time court case that really affects every family.

So, let's get to the big three. Number 3. We are thrilled to see this trial to start this week. These platforms purposefully designed them to addict children that this is their business model. Was it intentional social media has transformed our society and done damage to generations of Americans?

But was the addiction and manipulation intentional by Meta, by Snapchat, by Google? That's what's on trial as parents and whistleblowers take on Meta, Snapchat, and YouTube. The world is watching. Number two. The numbers are on your side.

The question is, does the public Know this.

Well, you know, we have a fake news that doesn't get the word out. That's why I love doing an interview with We Get the Word Out. We have the hottest country in the world. I guess I have to sell that. Economy, front of mind with Trump team as they fan out and build up, as the numbers show it's about to blast off not only on Wall Street, but Main Street.

Which is the only way they could hold the House and the Senate in the fall. Mm-hmm. Number one. The ball has been in the Republicans' court. And when I say that Democrats offered exceedingly reasonable proposals and have the support of the American people, I'm not exaggerating.

Shutdown looms as ICE leaders get grilled on Capitol Hill. Four days to find a deal and avoid a shutdown for the DHS as lawmakers get set to leave town and go to the Munich Security Conference.

So they want to get this done by Thursday.

Well, they got these 10 demands for ICE: stuff that's a non-starter and stuff that they can really compromise on. Roving patrols, I'm not sure they will admit to doing it or they are doing it or not doing it. But you could honestly say, if you're Tom Homie, we're not going to rove around to Home Depot parking lots.

Okay. You want to do body camps? That's no problem. If you want an ID on the uniform, it's got to be a number. Put a number ID, not a name.

And the reason why they're ma wearing masks and they're not going to take them off is because you idiots keep on calling them out, calling them fascists, calling them thugs, calling them Gestapo and saying go ahead and fight back and tape them. Why would you be taping people so you get their identity, you know where they live? Oh, you're not gonna follow them home, right? No, but you'll follow them to a hotel room. Of course, you'll follow them home.

So that's why the demands, the demands that they have for reforms on ICE really are about abolishing ICE. But they're afraid to say the word because it blew up in their face when they said reimagine or abolish the police. Remember that? Let's reimagine they all started in Minneapolis too. Who the hell would live in Minneapolis today that had any sense in their head, that wanted to raise their kids in any normal environment?

Here's Senator John Kennedy on what's going to happen if they don't get a deal by Friday. Cut for her. I think we'll end up eventually. with a clean CR. How long should that be for?

For the rest of the fiscal year. But that's going to take a while. Um there is E even if we agreed to all of Senator Schumer's conditions. I don't think many Democrats would vote for it. Because the the uh the Karen wing of their party.

uh wants to defund ICE, just like they want to defund the police. It's 100% true. You know, Senator Mark Warner, a little bit more optimistic, but this guy is just, by the way, for a while I thought Mark Warner was somebody above it. He's with intelligence. Until I watched him at the whole Russia hoax leading the way the entire time, cut seven.

Do I think the government will the DHS funding will run out? Based upon the battle over judicial versus administrative warrants? No. Do I think there will be a set of reforms that will be palatable? Not just to Democrats, but to the American people.

Americans are being killed in Minneapolis. The law enforcement there, the local cops can't do their job because you've got so many ICE agents out and people having their houses raided, where then the local police has to come. They can't go about getting rid of traditional crime. This is a city under siege. By frankly, the federal government.

And again, what's amazing to me is historically the Republican Party has been about: let's not have federal overreach.

Well, we've got federal overreach with ICE, we've got federal overreach with the president, but the president is saying, let's nationalize our elections. We've got the idea of, do you really want? ice roving agents showing up at polling stations.

Okay. Couple of things. What he said is totally farcical. ICE is out there killing people. There were two incidents over the course of a year.

Both happened in Minneapolis. Both were radicals there to incite. They're activists. Nobody wants to see anyone die. But the day before, you had that guy that got shot kicking out the taillights of an SUV carrying ICE operatives, right?

So this guy then said he had a rib broken at a separate time.

So he's been attacking ICE the entire time.

So if you want to go disseminate and go investigate those two incidents, go ahead and do it. But to say that ICE is out there killing people. While not saying that a guy got his finger bit off by the radicals who've been radicalized by the mayor and governor, is just out insane. And you just wouldn't expect it from a guy that, or Mark Warner, who's from a somewhat purple state, who fancies himself somewhat reasonable and rational. But what he said in the beginning is important.

What he said is that I don't think we're going to have a shutdown. The thing is, they did everything on regular order. They agree with so much, Democrats and Republican, compromised through committee. They blew it up over an opportunity for political gain. The other thing I think in the back of my mind, they saw the only thing to stop Donald Trump's economy was that shutdown for forty three days.

It hurt everything. And since that time, it's been on jet fuel, over fifty thousand in the Dow, wages going up. You also see that jobs are going up, so things are really pointing in the right direction. The other big thing they've got to be talking about and trying to pass this week, beginning in the House, is the Save Act. Essentially, what it does is you got to have a physical ID to vote.

And guess what? Most America, most of America, wants this to happen. I'm talking about the polls showing minorities, majorities, doesn't matter, Republican, Democrat, they want to see voter ID because all of you don't want your vote canceled out. Cut 17 is CNN's Howard Enton, Harry Enton. What are we talking about here?

So take a look here: favor voter idea to vote. Look, I got all this polling on the screen going back since 2018. You'll notice on all of it, it's all north of 75%, 76%, 76%, 76%, 81%. And then 83% in the last year of Americans agree with Nikki Minaj. They favor Photo ID to be able to vote.

But even 71% of Democrats favor photo ID to vote. 85% of white people favor it. 82% of Latino. 76% of black Americans favor it.

So the bottom line is this. Voter ID is not controversial in this country. A photo ID to vote is not controversial in this country. It is not controversial by party and it is not controversial by race. The vast majority of Americans agree with Nikki Minaj.

So, I'm not asking Democrats to sign on for the big beautiful bill. They just don't want to do it. But when you have numbers like this, If they don't do anything at all that Donald Trump ever puts forward. The wall, immigration enforcement, even though the election went that way because immigration enforcement, because of what he wanted to do, they just passed all these trillion-dollar spending plans that Joe Biden jammed down everyone's throat on a simple party line. But when it came to infrastructure, when it came to guns, they got bipartisan votes.

What Harry Enton, the pollster, just said on CNN, their favorite channel, is that over 70% of the American people want to see voter ID. This would be a great layup, and you could go run on the fact that when opportunities are out there, I'm bipartisan. But instead Even on CNN. And even on NBC. When asked, and these numbers are thrown in their face on ABC, I should say.

Here's Jonathan Carl talking to Adam Schiff. But in one recent Pew Poll, 83% of adults re uh support requiring photo ID to vote. Um 71% of Democrats Uh favorite. Requiring photo ID. Is that something that you can support?

And if not why not? It's still going to be something, Jonathan. It's still going to be something that disenfranchises people that don't have the proper real ID, driver's license ID, that don't have the ID necessary to vote, even though they are citizens. This is another way to simply try to suppress the vote. What an idiot.

I mean, just a moron. What are you talking about, suppress the vote? If I walked into an airport without my ID, And I can't get on a plane. Is that my effort to hurt the airlines? Is that my effort to hurt Irish Italians?

No, I didn't bring my ID to vote. Then you're not going to vote. Simple as that. You go try to get in a bar and you're 21 years old. You don't have an ID, you're not getting in.

I don't care if you're 21 or not. You have a problem with that?

So why can't you ever just answer the question in a nonpartisan way? That's why the President of the United States says, I give up on these people. He's having a governor's invitation only to the White House, usually brings in Republicans. I said, I'm not bringing Westmore, I'm not bringing Jared Polis. He just invited a few select Democrats because he just can't deal with them anymore.

Because there's nothing that he could say to actually let them know that this is an opportunity to do something that the people that put you in office want you to do. It's so discouraging.

So we're going to see about this. They say every time, well, Donald Trump's just trying to hold on in the midterms.

Well, that's absolutely true.

So what he's trying to say is Not trying to nationalize elections saying I want to be in control. What he's trying to say is this. The same states I had a problem with in 2016 and 2020, even though I won a lot of them in 2024, I don't think they've straightened everything out. Although the president should not be worried about Georgia, I have full faith in Georgia. They reformed the process under a Republican governor.

They've had great turnout. And by the way, Republicans have had success. Just worry about observers. I would train observers to know what to look for, put them in the trouble spots. Do not try to nationalize.

It's not going to work. It's not going to pass. Too many Republicans noted it's unconstitutional. It's always meant to power the states. Nothing has changed.

Democrats wanted to do it when they were in power. And now Republicans getting upset with the integrity of the elections now want to do it. They shouldn't. Cut fifteen, John Fetterman, does give me hope. And now me as a Democrat, I do not believe that it's unreasonable or to show ID just to vote.

And I remind everybody that less than a year ago in Wisconsin, they added that to the Constitution by a 63%. You know, passing to put that in the Constitution, that you have to show ID to vote. And they also elected a very, very liberal justice into their Supreme Court.

So it's not a radical idea for regular Americans to show your ID to vote. By the way, thank you, John Fetterman. I did not know that, Senator.

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So when you got your kid in the 1998 or 1999 or 2000, 2001, right on the advent of the iPhone, you thought, oh, it's great. These kids can stay up to date. They can read on their phone. They can learn stuff. They can communicate.

What could go wrong?

Well, everything went wrong. We see the results in education, in isolation, in eating disorders. Was it intentional to addict your kid into a world, a virtual world, instead of the real world? Hanging out with kids or the bad crowd, the good crowd used to be the biggest challenge for parents.

Now the biggest challenge is what's on your phone, they have no idea. And neither do you. But it certainly affects how you were brought up and grown up. And we want to straighten out, if not that generation, the next generation, the one that's coming up now, third and fourth grade, and get it down. But the question is, did Facebook, did Google, did Snapchat, did all these, let alone TikTok, did all these social media companies go do whatever possible not to entertain and inform your kid not to be something kids want like a toy.

but to addict your kid to their device. I think whistleblowers and others or going to really bring this into the forefront. I watched social media four years ago. And that was enlightening to me. A social dilemma I should say.

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Keep in mind that TikTok, for example, has already been sued and chose to settle.

So, you know, they made a calculated, you know, judgment in this case to settle the case, probably hoping that others would do the same. They'd be able to prevent a slew of cases. If this case goes forward as it's planned and the trial goes forward, and the jury awards, you know, something to these plaintiffs, you're going to see not only additional lawsuits, you're going to see class action lawsuits, which will really drive the recovery and the damages in a case against such giant companies.

So, listen to this. The Google is a way of fighting back, and of course, that was. Brett Tolman, he's a former U.S. attorney for Utah.

So, Google was trying to defend themselves, as is Snapchat, as is Meta. The others tried to settle. They did settle out of court. Uh YouTube.

So one thing they're saying is th these kids that died? Like they had problems anyway. Uh their therapist said they'd never even brought up Instagram as a problem.

So, I mean, that's a pretty harsh, I guess money's money. That's a pretty harsh approach to teenagers.

Well, they had problems anyway, so when they committed suicide, don't blame. You're just trying to blame social media.

Okay, see how that goes with the whistleblowers that talk about your goal is addiction. In fact, they found a document that said the goal isn't viewership. This is according to a Google document. The goal isn't a Google, not a Google Doc, but a document, an internal document in the organization, the Google organization. The goal is not viewership.

The goal is addiction. That's in black and white.

So this is going to be fascinating. Because big tech is accused of causing addiction and compulsive use of related social media, anxiety, depression, eating disorders, self-harm, suicide, and suicide ideations. That's what the lawsuit says. And look, peop people say, well, Parents got to be better. I don't know.

You know, it's impossible for me to know. I know some of the best parents who have kids that end up in bad situations or addicted to things. And I think to myself, you couldn't have been a better parent. I don't know what you're born with, but how much did you know was actually going on? How much did you assume that these companies were being responsible, especially first generation, that were coming up in the advent of the 2001 when Steve Jobs is still alive, of the cell phone?

So, I mean right after The blackberry. They called it the crackberry for a reason.

So, Meta argues that it's about a relationship with their parents. Meta argues it's their school experience. Meta argues body issues on your own, don't blame us. COVID-19, that don't blame us. Bullying, don't blame us.

U.S. teenagers 13 to 17 are on the docket. 93% use social media regularly, an average time scrolling 4 hours and 5 minutes a day. People might listen to that and go, well, why are you letting them do that?

Well, they're walking to school. What are you going to get a drone and follow them? They're on break, they're at lunch, following them.

Now, now there's a lot of schools that say you're not allowed to bring these phones to the classroom.

Okay, that helps that. Got a four-hour trip, you're gonna sit in the back of the car. Are they on their phones? I know is it bad parenting if they do slip onto their phones? Or maybe now they're.

If it's going to cost some money, they'll change. A talk show that's real. This is the Brian Kill Me Show. As Americans struggle with high costs, fewer jobs, and endless chaos from Donald Trump. Uh House Republicans are choosing to spend their time this week on federalizing Jim Crow.

Republicans bristle, the right wing bristles, every time I say that the SAVE Act is Jim Crow 2.0. They don't like it because sometimes the truth hurts. Yeah, the truth hurts. Just like with 70 plus percent of the country want voter ID, and that's Jim Crow, you idiot. What is wrong with you?

Why do you throw down these phrases that gets people radicalized and insane that think you're actually telling the truth instead of playing pure politics? Lieutenant Colonel Alan West joins us now, Dallas County Republican Party chair. He's also the American Constitutional Rights Union Executive Director, former congressman from the 22nd 22nd District over in Florida. Colonel, have you ever heard something so irresponsible since Joe Biden said it, describing Georgia's voter reform? Yeah, and it's a pleasure to be with you, Brian.

Let me give you a great example of how foolish Chuck Schumer sounds. I was just talking to Peter off air before we came on. I just celebrated my 65th birthday this past Saturday, and I want everyone to understand how significant it was. 65 years ago, I was born in a segregated hospital in Atlanta, Georgia. I know what Jim Crow is.

And asking people to show an ID when they vote is not Jim Crow. The Democrat Party were the purveyors of the very first Jim Crow 1.0, which is why I was born in Hughes Fall in the hospital, a blacks-only hospital. We remember what Joe Biden said about the Georgia voting laws, how that was going to be Jim Crow 2.0. It was nowhere near that. But what did they do?

They took away the all-star game from the city of Atlanta. It was supposed to be a celebration of Hank Aaron, a great black American baseball player who broke Babe Roof's record. But yet, you know, all of that goes asunder. This is, once again, them reaching, trying to stoke the fires of race. Racial divisiveness in this country because they don't want to see people showing ID at a voting location.

Kamala Harris won twelve states that all twelve of them had no voter ID. That's what we have to correct. Yeah, I mean, this was an opportunity for somebody to reach across the aisle and go, yeah, it's no problem. Minorities, blacks, Hispanics, nobody wants their vote nullified by some person who wants to vote illegally.

So if your vote matters to you, you don't want to nullify it. And that's what the American people are saying.

So if you don't like something about the SAVE Act, go in and adjust it and propose it. But the fundamental thing, for example, you know, it's not easy when people get married or divorced, they got to change their name. There's a lot of legal gymnastics. I want to make it easier for those people who obviously, you know, they get married in October, November shows up, maybe they don't have the right paperwork. Just work out little things like that.

You know, you just got divorced. It just became official. Your new name doesn't match your license. Work out stuff for people that do that, like to get married or get divorced.

So, okay, work that out. But this is something we should get on the same page for. You know what the goal should be? Making everyone think that the elections are as airtight as possible so you're comfortable with the result. But the one thing I would do is stop talking about nationalizing elections, both parties.

And just talk about observers. The only thing I'd be doing with all the money flowing to you, to Republicans and Democrats, I don't care, Democrats do. Train your observers. You had to volunteer or give them some nominal fee to go out to those troublesome districts, probably not everywhere, and just have an idea what to look for. And a lot of times people won't even try anything if they were going to do it because they know there's going to be six or a half dozen observers showing up.

So that's where we should put in our time. Yes, and there have to be consequences and ramifications for the people that are violating those election laws and we see that. Absolutely. In many cases, we see that's not the case. And so you're absolutely right.

I mean, when you talk about what we want to see in our elections, they need to get back to be the gold standard. We need to make sure that we are encouraging people to be election judges, to be clerks, to be poll watchers, to be poll workers. You know, here in Texas, early voting starts for us for our primary next week, Tuesday. And the election day is March the 3rd.

So we're in that cycle here in the United States of America already. And so we need to encourage people to get out and volunteer and to support them doing those things. Because the more folks that we have watching, the better things are. But again, we need to come back and understand that, you know, if you're saying that showing an ID to vote is Jim Crow, well, then when I go to the airport and I have to show an ID, and oh, by the way, even though Joe Biden says I'm not black, I am. Is that Jim Crow?

So it's just insidious what they're saying. And it's always the fallback position to try to stoke those fires. And what about the insult saying that minorities can't find ID?

Well, yeah, I'm too dumb. I'm too dumb to get an ID. And how do I fly? How do I fly on an airplane? Here's Kamua Harris.

Remember this in July of 2021, Cut 16. I don't think that we should. Underestimate what that could mean. Because in some people's mind, that means, well, you're going to have to Xerox or photocopy your ID to send it in to prove you are who you are.

Well, there are a whole lot of people, especially people who live in rural communities, who don't, there's no Kinkos, there's no office max near them. People have to understand that when we're talking about voter ID laws, Yeah. Be clear about who you have in mind and what would be required of them to prove who they are. Of course people have to prove who they are. But not in a way that makes it almost impossible for them to prove who they are.

I mean, she is just a genius. I mean, by the way, farmers, well, I guess they have full-time calligraphers. They can just copy. Or a monk. They can live with a monk who is great at copying the exact replicas.

Of course, they can never find a Kinko's. If you're in a farm, there's probably not even electricity. But the thing is that what about the DMV? I mean, they have the ability to create identification. I mean, you have to go.

You get your driver's license done.

So there is no impediment. And that's one of the things that we have here in the state of Texas that the Democrats got the Republicans to agree upon is something called a reasonable impediment declaration, where someone can show up and say, hey, you know, I'm really not able to get any type of picture ID. And guess what? Once they make that declaration, you can't challenge it. That's the type of things that should be taken off of the books because you're giving people a loophole.

Even here in Texas, we're having issues where Homeless people are able to register to vote.

Now, how can a homeless person register to vote?

Well, they're putting down street intersections. They're putting down homeless shelters.

Well, guess what? All of a sudden, those voter ID cards show up. Who's there to pick them up? And so, those are the type of things we should tighten up. And Republicans and Democrats should agree on that, not sit around talking about Jim Crow.

And even Stephen A. Smith went off on Chuck Schumer talking about Jim Crow. No, I hear you.

So, we could be looking at a shutdown this week because they want 10 reforms to ICE. And here's John Thune and James Langford talking about trying to avoid this again, cut three. If Democrats are serious about finding a solution here, they may need to find more time. To bring these efforts to a productive conclusion.

So, the funding deadline is this Friday. That was a Democrat demand. They didn't want to fund TSA. They didn't want to fund Secret Service. They don't want to fund FEMA.

They don't want to fund any of those if they also cut off funding to ICE.

So this is what we're looking at. Four days, there's no way you should tell ICE to take masks off. This is the party that made everyone to wear a mask. They still want us wearing masks. They wanted four-year-olds in masks, remember?

They wanted athletes to be playing in masks, but they don't want ICE in masks. But at the same time, he's saying, get out your phone and set up a library of everybody so we can find out what they look like, and then we'll go to their hotel and then make sure they don't get any rest. But besides that, we're not interested in their ID.

Well, why don't they ask Antifa not to wear a mask or some of these protesters that are out there? You know, that's okay by them.

So here's the deal. I would come to the Democrats and say, okay, no problem. We'll tell ICE agents not to wear a mask, but if any leftist shows up at their house and threatens them, they can engage them with lethal deadly force. That's what we'll do. Any person that goes out and tries to dox an ICE agent or puts their information or their picture out publicly, that's a felony offense.

But they'll take off the mask. Again, there has to be consequences and ramifications for the foolishness that the left is asking for. But the bottom line is this. This is another opportunity for them to say, defund ICE, get rid of ICE, abolish ICE. That's what they want.

They do not want us to patrol our streets and make sure that criminal, illegal immigrants are not in this country. And why? It comes back to the whole voting thing, because they want illegals to be able to vote. They don't want any type of photo ICO. ID, and that's why you have those 12 states that Kamala Harris won.

All right, how long has Iran been a problem in America? To America. 47 years. I mean, going back to 1979, I believe, when the Iranian Islamic Revolution, they took our hostages. And october 23rd of 1983, that was the Beirut Barracks bombing.

234 Marines, sailors and soldiers lost their lives because of Hezbollah, proxy Army of Iran.

So we're having missile talks with them, which is a total exercise in futility. And we want them to say, you know, with no more nukes and no more ballistic missiles. Their prime minister believes that any negotiation must include the Prime Minister Netanyahu says any negotiation has to limit ballistic missiles. They say, under no circumstances will we limit ballistic missiles. We say zero.

Nuclear weapons, zero nuclear power, no enrichment. They say we will continue to enrich uranium.

Okay, so they're not even pretending. There were negotiations. And then yesterday, In a sweeping crackdown, security forces arrested at least seven prominent reformist politicians and summoned seven others to court. Most likely, they're all going to end up in jail. While there were protests over the weekend, Colonel, where should this be heading?

We're negotiating with ourselves. Iran is not serious. Iran is going to continue to punish their people because their number one export is Islamic terrorism and jihadism.

So at some point in time, we have to realize that the United States of America can set the conditions for a change in the regime there in Iran. Let the people make that decision, but at least we can help them out by reducing the enforcement power that the Mulas and the Ayatollahs have with the Iranian Revolutionary Guard forces, the Basji forces, things of that nature, their military capability and capacity. We don't need to have our troops running around on the ground. We don't need to try to reform Iran, but definitely this regime that has been a thorn in our side for 47 some-odd years, I believe, they have to lose power. They have to.

And what would you target? I target the military capability and capacity that supports them. Like I said, the Revolutionary Guard Corps, those facilities, those command and control facilities, Basti forces. I would do everything possibly to isolate them. That means cutting off their oil shipments.

That would hurt China, and that's a good message to send to China. China's already lost the oil that comes to them from Venezuela.

So that's the whole geopolitical strategy of this. But Iran has to go away because Iran goes away, Hamas goes away, Hezbollah goes away, Islamic Jihad goes away, all of those problems. And the drones that support Russia and Ukraine go away as well.

So that's why this is an important part of that center of gravity and start to peel that onion back. I'm not a neocon. I'm not a warmonger. I'm just a realist. It's time for the regime in Iran, the Ayatollahs, to be bye-bye.

Before they get missile defense back, before they're able to reconstitute their ballistic missile production, this is the window. That's why Netanyahu. Who's coming here tomorrow, not coming next week? He's pushing everything up. His input is invaluable.

He certainly will be targeted.

So are troops in Iraq.

So are troops in Qatar.

So I understand that it's going to be a retaliation, but just understand that this problem is going to exist. It's when we're going to address it. It's just a matter of when. Nothing will change. They've shown that.

Nothing will change. And remember the explosive force penetrators. You when you talk about the device that has killed so many of our soldiers, sailors, airmen, marines in Iraq and Afghanistan and maimed them for life, that came from Iran. EFPs Thanks so much, Colonel. Alan West, appreciate it.

My pleasure. All right. Take care. God bless. You got it.

When we get back, I'll be able to take some of your calls: 1-866-408-7669. There's a lot more to discuss on the table, including some moving parts on Capitol Hill. They're looking to avoid this shutdown, be able to get to the Munich Security Conference and leave on Thursday. There is an easy way to avoid this. I hope they take it.

Diving deep into today's top stories, it's Brian Kilmead. Mm-hmm Uh A radio show like no other. It's Brian Killmead. There was never ever sign of life or proof of life in any way. And that's what really stands out in this investigation, in this crime, that stands out from any other one in the past.

First of all, they're extremely rare. Second of all, if they were really after money, they would have made it easy to get the money. And they didn't do that in any way. And one of the first things, because there's three types of abductions that happen, and this kind of fits in the middle one. The first top one is being professionally done, and they don't want public knowledge of it.

They're directly communicating with the family. And the first thing, always, they're providing proof of life because their primary objective always is to take care of the welfare of the person they abducted because that's their ticket to what it is they're trying to get. And that's what's missing in this.

So that's one of the investigators, Robin Drake, and he is going over where we're at right now in the Savannah Guthrie's mom's case, Nancy Guthrie. Savannah Guthrie just broke all protocols yesterday and just basically said, do you have any leads? Cut 32. I'm coming on just to ask. you not just for your prayers but no matter where you are, even if you're far from Tucson.

If you see anything, you hear anything, if there's anything at all that. seems strange to you. That you report to law enforcement. We are at an hour of desperation. And we need your help.

So she's not saying she's not addressing the would-be capture. She's not addressing those one who wants $6 million in Bitcoin. She's not saying, using phrases to let them know that she's a nice person, talk to her. This time she just looked into the camera on her own, no brothers, no sister, and said, Do you have any leads? And what does that tell you?

It tells you whether it's right or wrong, the sheriff has not. Informed us, informed them, or give them hope that they're on target, that they're getting close. It's a family member, not a family member. We don't know anything. The other thing we found out, and you tell me how significant you think this is, they said, oh, you know how you said that she was going to church, and when she didn't show up at church, people informed the family they were concerned.

She was never going to church. She went to a friend's house to watch church at the same mass Savannah was in, reportedly, in New York City.

So she was gonna watch it and she didn't show up at her friend's house.

Okay. That's a little different, isn't it? didn't show up at a friend's house as opposed to didn't show up in a church that, for the most part, has hundreds of people.

So that makes a little more sense. If the family knew that and it was wrong, they just didn't care that the reporters got it wrong. But you can't blame reporters. Because we're just getting the story that they're saying. Why did you, when did you realize that Nancy was missing when she didn't show up at church?

Okay, I'll go with that. Should I have questioned and said, do you mean? Watch church on a friend's house? Of course not. But why do you think it wasn't important to straighten that out?

They didn't.

Now they said it wasn't the it wasn't the son-in-law that dropped her off. Really?

Okay. Why didn't you tell us that before? I understand not having press conferences if you have no other leads, but at least have a press conference to clarify the record. You want the public to help. The Gothries.

So at least give the public all the information that would be necessary for them to narrow down and do the best they can to be the eyewitness or the person eligible for that award. Here's Harvey Levin, cut thirty three. I'll read you one line from the ransom note we received, and they say it is in the best interest of everyone to have this completed as soon as possible.

So, you know, this was way back when the first ransom note was issued. It's baffling to us. We just don't understand what has transpired, but the account we're looking at does not show a deposit.

So they didn't pay the deadline passed, two deadlines passed. And then she said, listen, help me, help me out. Sheriff's got to give up control, write to the FBI. Don't go to any more basketball games.

Solve this crime. Obviously, this is extremely tough. But I would bring in all the help possible and shelve your ego. From the Fox News Radio Studios in Midtown Manhattan, it's the fastest-growing radio talk show. Brian Gilmead.

Well, I'm so glad you're there. It's the Brian Killmeat show. I come to you from Midtown Manhattan, heard around the country, around the world, where it was a. Three degrees yesterday in the morning. But by the afternoon, we were all warmed up to 30.

I can remember walking around in 50 degrees and thinking to myself, man, I am freezing. And we are so numb to it now. You know, there's a reason why I don't live in Minneapolis. Many reasons. But one of which is the Is the bone-chilling cold, and that's what we got through the northeast.

Finally, it's broken. This hour, I'm going to be joined because I'm indoors. Congressman Tony Gonzalez is going to be with us too, an impactful congressman from the border cities. There, he's going to talk about the Hispanic vote, the Republican Party, and what he's going to be learning from ICE today because it's going to be big hearings and they're going to look to score some political points. We'll do a simulcast with Stuart Varney.

You'll get to see me on FBN. And coming up shortly, Jennifer Say, CEO of XXXY Athletics. author, filmmaker, business executive. And a retired national gymnastics champion, and one of the most successful business people in the country.

So let's get to the big three. Number three. We are thrilled to see this trial to start this week. These platforms purposefully designed them to addict children that this is their business model. Yep, that is their business model and that's what they contend.

This is going to be an impactful. Triumph. Was it intentional?

Social media has transformed our society and done damage to a generation of Americans. Was the addiction and manipulation intended? That's what's on trial as parents and whistleblowers take on Meta, Snapchat, and YouTube. The world is watching. Number two.

The numbers are on your side. The question is, does the public... Know this.

Well, you know, we have a fake news that doesn't get the word out. That's why I love doing an interview. We get the word out. We have the hottest country in the world. I guess they have to sell that.

Economy front of mind with the Trump team as they fan out and build up. As the numbers show, it's about to blast off, which is the only way they can hold the House and Senate. We'll discuss it. Number one. So since Saturday, The ball has been in the Republicans' court.

And when I say that Democrats offered exceedingly reasonable proposals and have the support of the American people, I'm not exaggerating. Really?

Senator Chuck Schumer shutdown looms as ICE leaders get grilled on Capitol Hill four days to a final deal, we hope, or there'll be a DHS shutdown. As lawmakers get set to leave for a Munich security conference, my hope is they go on to get it done before they take off. But the big thing is the economy. As the President, we all watched and we're happy that we I assume we went over 50,000 on the stock market. The job numbers held steady.

The GDP is at 4.4, and the Atlanta Fed says it's going to get to 5 percent growth. But what about wages and what about prices? Are they beginning to come down? I think it's going to help to do that India trade deal at 15 percent. I also think it's going to help the war in Russia because Russia is able to sell the Indians oil.

And because of that revenue, they're able to continue to just try to kill as many innocent people as possible in Ukraine. But looking at the economy right now, the President is extremely optimistic that he has turned the corner and that with the when the tax returns come in, he believes we're going to be hitting hyperspeed. Here he is with Larry Kudlow yesterday, cut eighteen. Can you beat history on these midterm elections? Carry the House and the Senate for the GOP.

Can you do it on the economy? Do you need more communication? Do you need more marketing? Do you need more help? I mean, the numbers are on your side.

The question is: does the public Know this.

Well, you know, we have a fake news that doesn't get the word out. That's why I love doing an interview. We get the word out. But so you ask a question. Uh in fifty years, a president that won Even a popular president, somebody that's done well.

I'm popular and I've done well. I mean, I think we have the greatest economy, actually, ever in history.

Now we have the hottest country anywhere in the world. That's said by everybody. We have the hottest country in the world. I guess they have to sell that because we should win in a landslide, and we'll do everything we can to do it. They just got to find it.

Inflation is at 2.7 percent. They got it down, got to get it down to two percent. And I think focusing on reducing tariffs on products we don't make here, I think, would help when people go shopping for food or clothing. Apparel is definitely being hit hard by the tariffs, and it's got to be hard for them to recover because there's almost no manufacturing here. That would r eliminate the tariffs.

Entirely.

So let's bring in a good friend to the show: the CEO and founder of XXXY Athletics, author, filmmaker, business executive, and retired national gymnastics champion, Jennifer Say. Jennifer, welcome back. Thanks for having me, Brian. Good morning. Hey, so Jennifer, from your perspective, How's the economy doing?

Well, it's interesting what you just said about apparel and the tariffs hitting. We certainly are feeling it in my business. But we're not raising prices. We're a new business. I think that would impact our revenue growth.

I think it would get rejected.

So we're going to take that hit ourselves. And we are looking for more manufacturing here in the U.S. But as you said, there isn't that much. And so it's really hard, especially as a smaller business and a smaller brand to get capacity because they're leaving that open for brands that can make a bigger commitment. And we're still tiny.

We're growing.

So it's not so easy as just switching all your manufacturing to the U.S. The factories closed 20, 25 years ago. We don't even have the sewing machine operators here. We have to train labor here. And so it's going to be a bit of a longer road, but we're committed to moving more manufacturing here to the U.S.

So, one thing I would love to do is just do the tariffs and say in two years they kick in. Give you two years to bring manufacturing back, maybe combine with other apparel companies, and to do it. And a lot of times you can get automation to do it, these robot arms and others, to make some of the stuff because you need skill to do it. It's not just a matter of just I need people. It takes a skill, right, Jennifer?

Yeah. Pee? I think we're breaking up a little bit. There we go. There we go.

You can try that again. Yes, in my business, performance fabrics, innovation, that's a skill that has been lost here as well. And all that innovation is happening overseas right now.

So for me to tap into new fabrics that our customer wants, I can't really find it here. Yeah, and I've talked to other companies the same thing. If your goal is to bring manufacturing back, you've got to be practical. You're going to end up losing these businesses instead of helping these businesses or bringing industry back here.

So the rest of the economy, in terms of jobs and hiring people, do you find that if you had to hire somebody, do you have enough resumes or do you have too many? Too many right now. I have a lot of resumes that come in when we try to hire someone. And you have to keep in mind, my business, you know, there's people who wouldn't want to work for us. I think that's silly.

I think they should want to work for us, but we are inundated anytime we post a job. There's a lot of resumes. And I know that from my own children as well, who are in their 20s and looking for jobs. It's really, it's tough. Hey, Jennifer, I think you probably, you lived this stat.

But 92% of female CEOs have played College athletics. or have played at the extremely high level. You're probably one of the few who is not surprised by that number. And you're going to be in my new book, The Sequel, The Games Do Count, The Games Still Count. And you're one of the first person I interviewed for that.

So I know, but for the audience out there, what did you get in sports? It wasn't just because you became. One of the best gymnasts in the world and a national champion. It was something about that journey that steeled you, didn't it? That's correct.

That's well said. The discipline, the perseverance, the idea of working hard to master something that you're not good at it right away, but you have the perseverance and the discipline to pursue mastery, the sense of satisfaction you get from that, and the ability to then push yourself forward to get better at new things. I learned that in sports, as do so many women, young women. And we didn't have that opportunity before 1972 with Title IX. I mean, it's like a thousand-fold increase in terms of girls participating in sports since 1972.

And that's at risk right now because I think when women's sports aren't for women and girls anymore, we really risk girls and women tapping out. Because if they don't have a fair playing field, why would you continue to try? And I think that's what's at stake with boys playing in girls' sports. And the quote from Megan Rapino, a fine basketball soccer player, when she was playing, and her wife, Sue Bird. is supporting trans youth isn't just about sports, it's about freedom.

She believes everybody, if you're a man and you say you're a woman, you should be allowed to compete. Uh and she thinks that's fairness and freedom. I can't believe she believes that because she wouldn't have made the national team if boys were allowed to compete with girls as good as she was. You have a pushback on that. Yeah, and her World Cup team famously lost to 15-year-old high school boys back in 2015.

And they weren't even an outstanding high school team. They were just like a kind of okay high school team.

So that's how much better, that's the advantage boys have. She made an ad, that's where she said that the ACLU is claiming that sports are about freedom and self-expression. I reject that outright. Sports are not about freedom and self-expression. Join the arts if that's what you want.

Sports are about discipline, perseverance. There's rules. You play within those rules. Every sport has rules. There's referees, there's judges.

Why do we keep time? Why do we keep score? I reject all of that. There are rules, and women's sports are for women only, and she knows that. And now we find out that that boxer that said he was a female and just won the gold medal, and remember the Italian boxer, I think she got hit with a jab from this guy, Andrew, and she just said, I quit.

And people were on her, and she had to apologize for saying this is ridiculous, this person.

Now it turns out, male genitalia the whole time. Yeah, he's XY. He has the SRY gene, which indicates male chromosomes. He finally admitted it to a French publication. Common sense folks like you and me, we knew it all along.

All you have to do is look at that guy and know he's a male. The IOC needs to take his gold medal away. It's ridiculous. I can't help but feel he doesn't totally understand. He's saying he's going to go for the 2028 Olympics and commit to the testing, the sex testing.

Does he not understand the sex doesn't change? He's going to be XY next time too. And now the rules by the IOC actually prohibit him from competing in women's. Go compete in men's. He won't make it.

He won't qualify. But yeah, it's really unfortunate. And anyone who called it out, anyone who called out what they could see with their own eyes was called, you know, every horrible name in the book. And the media is not going to retract any of what they said about us.

So you're listening to Jennifer say, if you're smart enough to watch on the app, you can see we're zooming. But Jennifer's one of the nation's finest gymnasts in her day, and she was on the national team. She was proud to represent the red, white, and blue.

Now, all of our athletes are getting these questions. And I admit to you, the questions are provocative. But listen to Hunter Hess in a pregame interview before he competed. Listen to the question, listen to his answer. It brings up mixed emotions to represent the U.

S. right now, I think. It's a little hard. There's obviously a lot going on that I'm not the biggest fan of, and I think a lot of people aren't. I think for me it's more I'm representing my friends and family back home, the people that represent it before me, all the things that I believe are good about the U.S.

I just think if it aligns with my moral values, I feel like I'm representing it. Just because I'm wearing the flag doesn't mean I represent everything that's going on in the U.S.

So, yeah, I just kind of want to do it for my friends and my family and the people that support me getting here. Really?

Your thoughts? You know what? Even if you disagree with some of the policies, how hard is it to just say, I'm so proud to be here and represent my country? How hard is it? Just sort of, you know, deflate the provocative question: keep politics out of sports.

I'm opposed to boycotts of the Olympics. Let the athletes come together and compete and let the best person win. Why he has to get into any of that? It's just. Such obnoxious virtue signaling.

Just sit there and say, I'm proud to be here at the Olympics and represent my country. It's not hard. Yeah, we don't care who you voted for. I mean, I'm sure in 1980, I'm sure there were people that disagreed with the way Jimmy Carter was handling the hostage crisis. I'm sure people weren't thrilled with double-digit inflation, you know, throughout time.

I'm sure Jesse Owens wasn't thrilled with segregation. But when he ran in 1936 against Hitler, he didn't say, well, America's not really free. He's like, I'm going to compete for my country, and I'll handle this when I get home. That's why he's an all-time great.

So Hunter Hess says, He tried to walk this back after the President essentially called him a total loser. He says, I love my country. There is so much that is great about America, but there are always things that could be better. One of the many things that makes this country so amazing is that we have the right and the freedom to point out. The best part of the Olympics is that it brings the people together.

Well, now with your earlier statements, you're not bringing people together. You made news, and it wasn't for athleticism. I think his PR folks intervened. If you alienate half the country with your statement, you're probably not going to get as many endorsement deals when you come home. I think his PR person said, you need to walk back.

If you ever want to make any money after these games from endorsement deals, because half the country is really mad right now, maybe more. Yeah, it's disappointing. Then Mike Aruzzioni came out and said something similar to you, Jennifer Say. And then he ended up taking the post down. I guess he got blowback, which I find sad.

The captain of the 1980 miracle on ice.

So I don't know why he took it down. I'm sure he's not worried about his endorsements at this point. But I just love that he stood up and spoke out. Gusen, I don't care who you voted for, whether it was Joe Biden or Donald Trump. You're competing on the 250th birthday of the country that everybody wants to get into.

They're not trying to get into Russia. They're not trying to get into China. They're not trying to get into Japan. Believe me, they want to. They're not trying to get into France.

We have declining populations. We have to reinforce our border because it's so attractive. I know I don't have to tell you that. But check out XXXY Athletics. Jennifer Say, thanks so much.

Thank you for having me again. Always great to have you on. All right, listen, when we come back, I'll squeeze in some calls at the bottom of the hour. I'm going to be jammed up. The great Congressman Tony Gonzalez, the Republican from Texas, will do a similar cast on Varney Company.

You're listening to the Brian Kilmead Show. Where big stories meet bigger conversations. Stay informed and energized with the Brian Killmeat Show. The more you listen, the more you'll know it's Brian Killmead. And the last thing I think we want to do is discourage more people, more citizens from voting while they're attacking those same elections, while they're trying to do away with absentee ballot voting, while they're trying to do away with being able to register to vote through the DMV or by the mail.

So it's part of the broader disenfranchisement effort. And no, I don't think that's the right direction. Yeah. That is Senator Adam Schiff. I hate saying Senator, but he did win.

Senator Adam Schiff talking about even though 75% of the country, most Democrats too, 80%, something like 90% of Republicans want voter ID, just some type of voter ID, he says no, it's Republicans' attempt to disenfranchise. No. We want to know who shows. If you just show up, no pockets, with your sandals on, no shirt, and go, hey, I'd like to vote. Who am I?

That guy. You're happy with that system? Sign your name to any letter, any line, and go. Most people aren't.

So Hakeem Jeffries says the same thing as Adam Schiff. Dana Bash was asking the same thing of Democrats over the weekend because the numbers, even they have to ask questions about why you would not do something that seven or eight out of every ten Americans is totally in support of. Because Donald Trump is for it. Why is it not okay for the ICE to get into prisons and be able to pull out convicted criminals, the ones that are here illegally? It was fine for Obama, not for Trump.

Why was it important to build the wall for Bill Clinton? For George Bush? And they were building a wall under Obama. Why was it important not to do it? Because Donald Trump wanted it.

You know, we're all fed up with it. I mean, you wonder, well, why is he to be such a divider? I don't know who started it. But he came out calling out everyone, including the Republican Party, remember when he walked on stage and went after Jeb Bush, the frontrunner at the time.

So He goes to war to do what he thinks is right. And he'll get along with you if you're Senator Fetterman, you're Joe Manchin, you're cinema. And you're going to stand up and you'll be open to voting for some legislation? It doesn't matter that you're a Democrat. Open to it.

Well, tell me what you need.

Okay, you want to get something done? I'll compromise here. When you can't get people just to vote on voter ID, it's just insane. You listen to the Brian Killmee Show. Don't forget on February 14th, Saturday night, we're going to be in Fort Myers, Florida, BrianKilme.com streaming on Fox Nation.

If you're interested in it, Brian's talking about it. You're with Brian Kilmead. Senate and House Democratic leadership, including myself and Leader Jeffries, sent legislative texts detailing the 10 items we outlined in our letter. which has been public since Thursday, for raining in ice. We sent them to our Republican counterparts.

So since Saturday, The ball has been in the Republicans' court. We have no idea of which of our proposals they will accept, and which they reject. And when I say that Democrats offered exceedingly reasonable proposals and have the support of the American people, I am not exaggerating. Of course he is exaggerating. Senator Schumer, you are going to tell me that everybody in this country, by the way, over 60 percent of the country want illegal immigrants out of the country.

How they do it is where the rubber hits the road. But the 10 demands they have, at least six are non-starters, and he knows that. But he thinks it's to his political benefit to hold out either that or shut down.

So last night, Senate GOP leaders were trying to lay the groundwork to pass another short-term DHS funding patch until they can get together on those 10 items, one of which is taking off the mask. Another is judicial warrants before you go in, no wandering patrols, which I don't think either side should be doing.

So I think that's fine. But not having your name on your uniform is not going to work. This is the same party that goes out of their way to say if you see some an ICE agent, take out your phone and tape what they're doing and harassing them as they sleep in hotels. Congressman Tony Gonzalez from Texas's 23rd District joins us now. Congressman, welcome back.

Yeah, thanks for having me back on, Brian. Congressman, what do you think? Have the Democrats been very reasonable when it comes to the shutdown? They haven't. And I'll tell you why.

Just a few days ago, we had a bipartisan package that passed in the House. We had seven Democrats sign on board. It was well on its way. And then all of a sudden to getting signed into law by the President, and then all of a sudden, now they want to hold people hostage. And part of that holding the hostage is a Coast Guard that's doing great work.

It's FEMA. It's our TSA agents. It's FAA. I mean, it's all these other parts of the government. And it's surely it's solely based on politics, not policy.

So what uh of those demands, what do you think you'd be open to? You know, you mentioned the body cameras make a lot of sense to me. I mean, I think that, if anything, that gives a lot of protections to our law enforcement officers that essentially go, we don't allow some TikToker that takes a snippet of what happened and puts it on the internet and kind of like, oh, look at this terrible thing that happened. You have law enforcement that goes, hey, let me show you what happened yesterday, today, and the day after. That makes sense.

Hey, look, I'll trade you for a voter ID. Do you want to do a trade like that? That makes sense to me. What was the trade? I'm sorry, you were breaking up a little bit.

What was the trade? I would trade you identifying our law enforcement officers for voter IDs, for making sure making people that vote in this election have an ID when they come and vote. If you want to have a conversation on IDs, that's the conversation we need to be having. We'll see what what what real comes out of it. I think also communicating, having communication liaisons, just so that way there's no surprises in these local communities.

They know what's happening, they know where the operations are occurring. Ideally, they're a part of it. To me, that makes a lot of sense. That alleviates some of the anxiousness that these communities have. We can't let the left control this narrative of they're going out there and ICE is doing X, Y, or Z.

The more we can shine a light on transparency, I think undermines their narratives. What's with the mask? This is the party that wanted to put everyone on a mask, including two-year-olds. Wanted you to play soccer with a mask on. And now they say we want the masks off ice agents.

Yeah, it's insane. It's okay for the rioters to have masks, but this poor federal agent that's doing their job that is getting doxxed and their family is getting harassed and they're getting harassed. I mean, not to the verbal harassment. We're not talking about verbal harassment, Brian. We're talking about people shooting at them and trying to kill them.

Like, that's the level of threat they're under.

So, of course, they should protect themselves.

So, do you think you guys are going to come? The Senate's going to come to some type of an agreement on this? We have a few days to go. I do suspect there's going to be some negotiations and some conversations that should happen. I think it's really important that the Republican Party doesn't cave here.

We don't surrender. We hold the line and we essentially go, we worked really hard on this package. Are there opportunities for some things that make sense? Yes. I think going after the convicted criminal alien piece, that makes a lot of sense.

The transparency piece makes a lot of sense, but some of their demands are just completely absurd, and they know it. It's almost as if they're trying to do this on purpose, Brian.

So, what do you think Republicans have been doing wrong? I know Tom Holman's going to be scaling back again this week in Minneapolis. What do you think they have been doing wrong that bothered you, a member of the Hispanic community who served our country as a congressman in a border district? The number one issue that I think can be improved is communicating with the local. Cities.

You don't have to change anything. You can keep your policies exactly the same. You can do your operations the same. You can have people that work with you or don't work with you. But you should be communicating with them.

And whether they want to hear it or not, almost forcing the conversation on it.

So that way, go, look, this is what happened. This is who we apprehended. This is why we apprehended them. This is what's going on. To me, that undermines or that undercuts the narrative that.

Some of these cities are trying to portray these ICE agents demonizing them. If we do a better job of that, to me, that alleviates a lot of problems. Yeah, I guess we're going to see what's going to happen. Do you think that the, I know Democrats want no more roving patrols looking for people that look like they're illegal and asking them for ID. Do you think the DHS is doing that?

Number one, if they are, do you want them to stop? The random going around doing stuff, in my experience in the military, that's how you get people killed. You know, you have to, operations have to be very specific. They have to be very detailed. You have to have lots of cooperation, very clean.

And to me, I'm first thinking of the safety of the officers, and I'm thinking of the safety of the community. Get them out of bad situations. The jails make a lot of sense. If we can go cell by cell instead of door by door, you're in a controlled environment.

Someone's convicted of a crime. That makes a lot of sense to me. Hey, go out and get me 10 people. To me, that creates a level that takes us down the wrong path.

So, what did you take from the state election that went to a Democrat that Donald Trump won by double figures? I think 17 points? Republicans have to take this serious. And, you know, it's not just in Texas, it's other places. We absolutely have to take this serious.

And, you know, I think everyone needs to step up, including those of us that are in the arena. We need to step up. The message, too, has to be on security and it has to be on the economy. I mean, those two things resonate anywhere you go throughout the country. If you stray off that, which I think has happened in some of these special elections, you lose a lot of people.

And this is once again where it's important on the security piece. We double down on the protecting of our agents. I've got a bill that focuses on bulletproof vehicles for our officers. Too many officers are under attack, real threats, and we've got to be the party of law and order. We've got to be the party that goes out there in a humane and a just way, takes care of our law enforcement as well as keeping our community safe.

So, yeah, and by the way, so Congressman Gonzalez is our guest, and you're pushing for a bill, the bulletproof law enforcement. Vehicles Act, correct? That's right. Do you have bipartisan support in that? We don't yet, but I don't know why you wouldn't.

And we're going to push on this. Once again, if you're looking for something that makes sense, no one should want their law enforcement officers in their community executed. And this should be an area that we all get behind it. But once again, the left likes to talk about it. And then when the rubber hits the road, we know a lot of this movement is a defund the police 2.0 movement.

They just happen to have their target on ICE agents, not local PD this time. Do you believe that Senate race is something that the Republicans should just let all three of them fight it out, or do you think Trump should step in? That's up to the president. I will tell you, I mean, you have a lot of people in a lot of different camps in Texas. What we do need to make sure is whatever happens, whatever shakes out after the primary, that we all circle behind the winner and we make sure that we win that race because we shouldn't take anything for granted at all.

I also think we need to have viable candidates that can win. If we have more and more of these candidates that do well in a primary but are dead on arrival in a general, that is not going to bode well for us in the midterms. I want to know if you can get behind what Mike Lowe is proposing real quick. Let's listen. There's got to be a legal path forward, not a path to citizenship, but a legal path forward for people to come out of the shadows so that they can work legally, that they can pay their taxes, pay any back taxes owed, pay a fine, not collect government.

He calls it the Dignity Act. I'm sure you've heard of it. Can you get behind that? I think that to me, first off, any member who's willing to talk about immigration, we should listen to them, and they should have a seat at the table. I don't think the politics can support that right now.

I mean, right now, I'm looking at what about just the folks right now legally trying to go through the process. Those folks are getting left behind. And then, once again, how do we tackle all these millions of people that are in this country legally? We have our plate full going down to what do we do with the tens of millions of people that are here illegally and get them out of the shadows. That's your focus.

Congressman Tony Gonzales, you have a lot of credibility in that area. Thanks so much. Appreciate it. Back in a moment.

Now, the Brian Kilmead Show joins Fox Business's Varney and Company with Stuart Varney, live on your radio and on Fox Business. Here's Brian Kilmead. Um Hey, welcome back, everyone. Brian Kilmead here. We're just waiting for Stuart Varney to hop on with us.

And when he calls my number, we'll be ready to go right here. And then we'll be able to take some calls on the back end. I see people from around the country, actually, out of the country, some Canadian calls.

So we'll take those calls. But we'll do a simulcast right now on the Fox Business Network. Stuart Varney is about to come to us, and I think it's going to be shortly. And one of the things we're going to be talking about is youth sports. As well as what's going on with this mayor's race, another socialist.

That will be 1051. It is now 1051. Kill Mead miraculously appears on the screen. Brian, parents say high costs and burnout are putting youth sports in jeopardy. I believe that you're big in youth sports.

With your children, you have been. What's the solution to this? I did a book, The Games You Count, and it's how you play the game, and then I have another one coming out shortly on just that. People who play sports, like you and I, Stuart, but we didn't go pro.

So why do we do it? It turns out it's character building that shapes you. Your coach benches you, it doesn't bench you. You start, you get cut, whatever. Those tribulations you go through, young kind of shape you, especially for our business.

But going to your statement in particular, it is absolutely true. Youth sports has become a big business. Parents aren't really coaching anymore. It is professional players, excuse me, professionals getting paid, whether they're a college player or a coach or shelling out money. You've got to travel.

You're shelling out money. You want to make that team. You want your kid to train. You're shelling out money. And people are finding that number one, they're actually taking out loans to do this.

And what's happened is those kids that are prodigies-you know, the next Beckham, the next Messi, they're going to be fine. You know, most likely, even if they don't have the money, they're going to be scholarship in. Everybody wants a type of prestigious talent. But it's the average player that wants to get better, the ones that have to work hard to get to their teams, to get the extra training. Parents will do anything for those kids.

Those are the ones who bend over backwards or find themselves strapped because they have multiple kids who want to play multiple sports and they don't want their kids to miss this experience. But two things happen: number one, kids have to bow out because their parents eventually can't afford it. And number two, they get burnt out. Seven out of every 10 kids quit sports by the ninth grade. I think all the things you just mentioned have a lot to do with that.

How do you get the money and the competition out of it and the promise of great rewards if you turn pro? I think that people got to start offering an alternative just like anything else. Hey, your kid needs $1,100 that they want to be able to play for the next three months and the team they want, but you also have a town league that gives you the opportunity to have a chance to play. And I'll give you to Tim Howard. You know, he played over in England, was our national team, one of our great.

He said, I was from a single-parent family. He said, if I even had to go on road trips to rent a hotel room, my mom would have said, I'm out of the sport. I can't play. We would have lost the best goalie maybe America ever had because it would have been priced out if he was growing up today.

So, how many kids are being priced out? We got to start asking ourselves: why is this necessary? There's got to be a better alternative. I got a different subject for you, Brian. Neutha Rahman is running for mayor of Los Angeles.

Why is she being compared to New York City Mayor Zoran Mandani? Because she believes what he believes. And I think you're going to find these socialists cropping up. You saw what happened in New Jersey. Malinowski basically lost the primary to a socialist.

Mamdami beats a liberal Democrat in Cuomo. He is a socialist, I think, borderline communist. And I don't think he would really run for that label. And now you're seeing it pop up just about everywhere. The squad is getting more squad people, but they're actually to the left in many cases of the squad.

That's with Democrats. You know, people talk about Republicans getting their message straight and how are they going to deal with Hispanics and college people that don't graduate college.

Okay, those are fine. But you have a Democratic Party that is leaning Bernie Sanders' lefts. He is their icon. The outlier is now the standard-bearer. And they keep on winning because most of them are younger, they have a crisper message, they're better on social media.

Karen Bass is an epic fail who's changing the report. They talked about how horrible they were in handling those fires. She's caught in corruption.

So they're going to actually vote for somebody perhaps that's more to the left than Karen Bass, who, by the way, was totally comfortable visiting Fidel Castro and Hugo Chavez when she was in Congress, who spent the fires in Ghana and found her way back.

So Democrats have a mini-civil war, and the socialists are winning it. They are.

Socialists are winning in big blue American cities. It's a wave, and that makes me very uncomfortable. Brian, thanks for joining us. We'll see you again soon. I'm here.

Thanks a lot, man. Thanks so much, Stuart. I appreciate it. 1-866-408-7669. And I was going to just talk about what's also happening in California.

They're starting to find massive fraud in California, starting to move through there.

So listen to this. His staying with California. Since 2010 to 2024, Tell 10 million people Uh Uh have left California. one hundred seventy three thousand have one hundred seventy three people a day relocate from California. This is the first time in history of our country that more people are leaving California than are coming there.

Um This is a huge situation. I should stress that, not 10 million. 630,000 people have left between 2015 and 2025.

So this is happening.

So where are they going?

Well, this is a problem for Republicans. A lot of them are going to Arizona. They like the climate, but they like to lower taxes. And the bright red Arizona, even though Donald Trump won it last time, lost it the time before, has become more purplish, they're bluish.

So The problem is, California is literally chasing people out of one of the most diverse. In terms of topography and opportunity from rural to urban. Yet They have costs of gas the highest in the country, and over the last six years, utilities have costs have risen. 39%. Their average cost of living is 30% above They're $30,000 above annually the rest of the country.

That's why people are leaving. But that's the guy, the guy that gave you that. The former mayor of San Francisco, the former lieutenant governor of California, the two-term governor, is the guy Gavin Newsome. That's what they're going to be running on.

So, I don't know. You have a terrible politician, terrible chief executive. But is the alternative for the Democratic Party? A socialist who wants to take more of your tax dollars, ratchet up all these prices, and inject socialism into all this? Good luck with the left.

Republic's got their problems. But I would actually contend that Democrats got bigger problems. From high atop. Fox News headquarters in New York City. Always seeking solutions, never sowing division.

It's Brian Killmead. Hi everyone, so glad you're there. I'm here at 48th and 6th in Midtown Manhattan, or around the country, around the world. We have a lot to discuss this hour, including there's some explosive testimony right now taking place on Capitol Hill. They'll look at a beat up on Todd Lyons and Rodney Scott, representing ICE and DHS.

Eric Swelwell, desperate to be noticed, wants to be the next governor of California. He's got no shot, just like he has no shot at being president, is digging in right now. Todd Lyons, by the way, has been sidelined, as is Rodney Scott.

So a lot of the stuff he's going to defend. But a lot of the policies were really Christy Noam's policies put forward by Stephen Miller, and that is really not what Todd Lyons was doing. I think that with Holman in charge, you're going to see Todd Lyons step up and Rodney Scott play a bigger role. Carl Rove is going to be with us. In a few minutes.

And Lionel Shriver is going to be here from the Spectators. He's a columnist with the Spectator, author of a brand new book, A Better Life. And he's going to be talking about what's going on in our country, especially on the left. You're in New York City.

Soon, there's going to be no excuse. We're still waiting for our brand new mayor to actually get the snow off the streets. I understand it was two degrees, but it's not anymore.

So please Get somebody with a shovel to do two things. Have the garbage truck pick up the garbage and have the plows plow the streets. Uh I feel bad for the bikers and the uh Uber Each people because they can't even drive you know, they can't even find their lane. It's been two three weeks since this snow has left.

So before we get to Carl, let's get to the big three. Number three. We are thrilled to see this trial to start this week. These platforms purposefully designed them to addict children that this is their business model. Yeah, Maureen Malik, her son, took his own life due to social media, she claims, and that's why she's suing.

Was it intentional?

Social media has transformed our society, done damage to a generation of Americans. Was this an addiction? Was it pure manipulation? We're going to find out about it because the trial is going on right now. It could cost Meta, Snapchat, YouTube, billions of dollars.

Number two. The numbers are on your side. The question is, does the public know this?

Well, you know, we have a fake news that doesn't get the word out. That's why I love doing an interview. We get the word out. We have the hottest country in the world. I guess I have to sell that.

That has to be sold, and it's got to get prices down everywhere. Inflation's at 2.7%. Economy front of minds with the Trump team as they fan out to build up their numbers and to help the economy blast off, not just on Wall Street, where we're up. 100 and 200 points and over 50,000, but on Main Street. We'll discuss it.

Number one. The ball has been in the Republicans' court. And when I say that Democrats offered exceedingly reasonable proposals and have the support of the American people, I'm not exaggerating. That is Chuck Schumer. He's desperate to sound tough.

Shut down Loom says ICE leaders get grilled on Capitol Hill. Four days till a final deal gets done. Everything else is done. They're just trying to get I slowly but surely abolish ICE, in my view. and not crack down on the border.

Which is crazy. You know, if you try to get into Australia, Or you try to get into Uh anywhere else. You're pretty much going to be arrested. All of a sudden you hear we're debating, well, he just crossed illegally, it's no big deal. But according to the administration, seven out of every ten either have charges or have been charged with a crime.

CBS did a report, said the number is really 14 percent. There's a huge pushback from the White House. Regardless, This is going to be front and center as an issue in the fall. I think. I'm not sure.

Carl Rove knows all things. As you know, he's the former deputy chief of staff for George W. Bush, Wall Street Journal columnist, Fox News contributor. Carl, what do you think right now? Do you look at ICE as a premier issue come November?

Well, the Democrats, if they try and make ICE an issue, they have to be sustained by other things that happen between now and November. And they have to avoid sounding like they're anti-ICE. And that's the problem for the Democrats. They have a huge number of people on their left whose object is to abolish ICE.

Well, that sounds sort of like to fund the police to a lot of people. It's sort of like, aren't those people supposed to be helping control illegal immigration into our country? Aren't they trying to get bad people out of the country?

So the Democrats make it a mistake, in my opinion, make a big mistake if they try and make ICE a significant issue in the fall. But in primaries, it is going to be a big issue because the left uses as an issue to nominate their kind of people. I guess we are going to find out shortly, but we know that right now, they are deciding over the next three or four days whether there is going to be a shutdown or not. Democrats feel as though they got 10 demands of changes on ICE. And I'm curious to see some of the highlights from this testimony, which is sure to be somewhat of a show trial today, when Todd Lyons and Rodney Scott are in front of But When we talk about what's happening in the fall, there's push now among the right not to give it all.

when it comes to ICE, because they won on being tough on the border. And and deporting Mass deportations.

So there's a pushback there. Who do you think is going to win? The compromise cat, the compromise politician? or the one that says all or nothing. It's some reasonable politician.

Look, I think Tom Homan was a great move on the part of the president because he's a tough guy. Nobody can say that guy's weak. And so he was able to go and say, we're going to focus on the violent illegals. And why don't you, the local police and the state police, agree with us that you will turn over to us the violent illegals who are in your possession? And that's happening.

But let's be honest, the president's numbers on border security are good. They should be better. He should have gone to the border and dramatized that. And those images would still be stuck in our minds. But on immigration, the administration, that is now a net negative for him.

And it's because people turned on their televisions or got on their phones and saw what happened to those two people in Minneapolis. And right or wrong, the American people said that's gone too far. And so, look, I think Homan's going to do a great job for the president. He's going to center this where it needs to be, which is violent illegals, getting these people out of our. Country and back to either where they came from or to foreign prisons, like in Central America.

And I think that's going to be a plus. How this all plays out, though, we don't know because the Democrats get to play at this as well. And the more that they stress anti-ICE and the more that they scream and shout and dance about, I think the worse it is for them.

So lawmakers are pushing in, and going to discuss this today, about possible foreign influence in these riots. And they're seeing similarities between what happens in these communist socialist countries and what is being exported here. They actually tie it back to one of their, what they think is a key fundraiser over in Shanghai, over in Japan. There's a big story on FoxNews.com about it. In China, excuse me.

Yeah, big difference. And the House of Ways Committee is going to be looking at this about Beijing and beyond. I think there's something here. Because you know, one way of our enemies like to take advantage of our freedoms, whether it's elections, whether it's messaging, and now it's riots in the streets. And I go back to Antifa.

I remember it started overseas when you, George W. Bush, was in office, and a lot of these climate activists, and now they seem to have another issue, and it just seems to be they just changed the issue, but the anti-Americanism is somehow, I believe, not organic. Do you get that same sense?

Well, I think there are foreign actors who want to hurt America, who use the Internet in order to stir up division. They really don't care about the outcome. All they want to do is have Americans fighting each other and angry with each other. We know that they play in our elections. We know that they play in the issues like this.

I saw the other day a report that showed that a large number of people who were commenting on this who were, quote, Americans, were really coming from foreign countries and not our friends.

So, yeah, I think we've got to be careful about this, but there are foreign actors who want nothing except for Americans to be at each other's throats. State Department Under Secretary Sarah Rogers told Fox that Code Pink amplifies explicit pro-communist messages, and she said it's part of an $11 billion China effort, annual effort, to foment this communist propaganda in our country because they do seem organized and they. And they are getting paid. Yeah, well, we don't know yet about the money, but if there is money flowing, we want the FBI and our intelligence agencies to find out about it and stop it. But look, Code Pink has long been in greater sympathy with our adversaries abroad than with America.

I once had a speech in San Francisco, which is sort of where they started, where a woman jumped on the stage and attempted to handcuff me to my chair, failed to do so. At the last minute, she handcuffed herself to the chair, not me. But these people hate America, and they are being helped, I'm sure of it, by foreign adversaries who understand how constructive it is to read to for their ends that we be at each other's throats.

So, a couple of things. The president is losing numbers on Hispanics, and now a poll came out that shows he's losing an area in which he was excelling, and that is Americans without college degrees. It looks like he's lost a net of nine points.

So, I give you this: that, what, eight months, nine months? months. What do you do to change that?

Well, it's worrisome because this is a group that carried the white non-14 voters. Yeah, well, no, he carried them by 34, and he's up by, or excuse me, he carried them by 34. The generic ballot is now up only by 10 for Republicans in a poll that I just recently saw.

So, yes, there's a problem there. Look, this goes back to how do we sell the economy? You mentioned this as one of your big three. We ought to be careful about how How we sell it. Because the first thing to start with is: remember, everybody, we got in a mess because of those people over there, the Democrats.

They were the ones that started the inflation. They're the ones who are responsible for weak growth, bigger deficits. And we were brought in to clean it up. And we're starting to clean it up. And we've made some progress.

We stopped them from the largest tax increase in history by renewing President Trump's 2017 tax cuts. We added some additional tax cuts for people who get tips and people who work overtime and for seniors who depend on Social Security. But we got a lot more to do. Don't declare that we got the greatest economy in the world. People don't feel that.

It may be true. But don't accent the things that people don't necessarily feel are real. Tell them the things that they know. And they know the Democrats put us in the ditch. Tell them now that we're starting to get us out.

And we were confident that if we keep doing these things, and here are three or four more things we need to do, we'll be able to restore America's prosperity for the long term for every single American. Be aspirational. Don't say the job is already done. Are you idiots? Don't you understand we got the greatest economy in the world when people aren't feeling it?

Understood. Carl, I don't have to tell you about the dangers of Iran. When you guys are trying to bring some sanity into Iraq, Iran made sure that your job was 20 times harder, killing our guys with their militias and the financing there. They still have tremendous influence in Iraq today.

So now, yesterday or over the weekend, they had mass detentions again of all these so-called leaders, seven of them. They say that almost every family member has somebody in jail or has been killed because of these massive uprisings. We now have the assets seemingly in place. I know you're not a military strategist, but you understand better than most. What do you think the next step should be?

I hope in the private conversations, it's clear that the United States has explicit requirements of the Iranians to lessen the repression, to open up their society, to dismantle their nuclear program, to stop their ballistic missile program. And if not, there'll be consequences. And leave it up in the air what the consequences are. But if they don't agree, show them some consequences. President Trump has done an incredible job in demolishing the nuclear program with the strikes from B-2 bombers launched from the United States that brought down the Iranian nuclear program.

We have the ability to make them hurt. And it is in our interest that they be forced on their back feet. This is a country with so much opportunity and promise if they got rid of the Ayatollah. And the people are recognizing it. This is a country that has been impoverished by the Ayatollah.

This is a country that has enormous resources that have been squandered by the government. In support of terrorists in Hezbollah, Hamats, and the Houthis, it is in our interest to have that region of the world be more settled. And to get it more settled, the Iranian, the Ayatollahs have to be have to the regime change is necessary, in my opinion.

So the IRGC in power might not be much better. I think the president likes the plans, but believes that if they know that this is it for them, they think that as much as we have missile defense, that some of our bases could be jeopardized.

So that's a tough thing for a chief executive knowing that this move, I don't have to do it necessarily. But it could cause casualties, especially when this President has made it clear how much that bothers him, you know, publicly. Like it should. Yeah, no, I get that, and that's the terrible decision that a president has to make. But on the other hand, let's be honest, these people were trying to kill us and our allies are around the world.

Do you think that they said, oh, let's tell the Houthis not to launch missiles at U.S. warships or U.S. flagged vessels? No, they would just, I mean, this is a government in Iran that has massive parades where they burn the American flag and yell death to America. I mean, let's not kid ourselves.

These are people who are not going to wake up tomorrow and say, you know what, we want to exist as a friendly neighbor in our region and as a worthwhile member of the international community. These are state terrorists who sponsor terrorism throughout the region and against our country and our people.

So just looking at the landscape right now, I know Nikki Haley is going to be doing Brett Baer's show tonight. Governor DeSantis has got a year or so to ramp up his candidacy if he's going to run. I think Ted Cruz wants to run for president. J.D. Vance and Marco Rubio are hailed by this president often.

If you're. A candidate for 28. Do you have to start thinking about it now? Do you have to start forming the staff now? You have to start thinking about it now.

You have to have been thinking about it for a while. And you've just touched, you know, you've mentioned a few. There are others. Obviously, Brian Kemp, Tom Cotton, Glenn Youngkin. These are all people who are thinking about it.

Josh Hawley supposedly is thinking about it.

So a lot of people are thinking about it. And, you know, let them show their stuff. You know, 2026 is a chance for them to get around the country, to articulate a message, to help introduce themselves to people, to help other people get elected. And, you know, that'll be useful for the party. And let's not kid ourselves.

They're all thinking about it, and they're doing things. J.D. Vance is the first vice president of the United States ever to make himself his party's national finance chairman. Why? Because he wants to be able to have an excuse to get in front of every major checkwriter in America and get to develop a personal relationship with them.

So, yeah, they're all thinking about it. Let's not kid ourselves. This is constructive. It's going to be exciting. I can't wait to see this whole thing battle out.

And the vice president's over in Arjibajan today, and we'll see how he does. We know that he's not really popular in Europe, but he did that himself. And that's not necessarily going to hurt him here. Carl Robe, thanks for that. Let me ask one question before I go.

Are you thinking about it? I was thinking about it, yeah. But I just got to see.

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Breaking news, unique opinions. Hear it all on the Brian Kill Me Joe. We are back, and Lionel Shriver is with us now. She's a columnist with The Spectator and author of a brand new book. It's called A Better Life.

It's a novel, but it's based on fact in which we're experienced. Lionel, great to see you. It's a joy to be here.

Well, thanks so much. I know you put the end of this book based on real life because we have a lot of immigrants who come here, who are trying to assimilate here. A lot of them come here illegally. Can you set the stage for your book and how this all took place? Sure.

I mean, I would just say up front, this is probably one of the only Um immigration restrictionist Uh novels. Out there available.

So if you didn't like what happened during the Biden administration and you are a fiction reader, This book is for you. Right. Back in twenty twenty twenty three. then Mayor Eric Adams of New York City. proposed a program whereby he would pay regular New Yorkers to put up all these migrants in their spare bedrooms.

As a matter of fact, Eric Adams never manifested that program. But I did.

So, in my book, Family in Brooklyn takes in. to begin with, one Honduran immigrant. And I won't tell you the rest of the story. I will just suggest that it doesn't work out well. How did you research to get to that Honduran immigrant?

Number one, very common. People leave in Honduras to come here. Number two, we expect them they came to the many cities, and the governor of Texas made sure of that.

So did the governor of Arizona. Excuse me, the governor of Florida, rather.

So, can you play out a little bit how you wanted to steep this in reality in this fiction book? Yes, this book takes place in a very specific time period between 2023 and 2024 when New York City was being inundated with literally hundreds of thousands of migrants, and at the same time had made this absurd promise. that uh the city was committed to uh the right to shelter. Which meant that if you didn't have a place to live, then the city was obliged to give you one. Trevor Burrus, Jr.: And what happened?

I don't understand why anyone pays rent in New York. Right. By the way, either does the current mayor, but it's too high, but eventually he likes to get to that. And so we convert a bunch of old hotels and we put people in and we give them free food and we try to make sure that they're happy, but instead they toss out the food. There's fights in the hallways.

It costs us millions upon millions of dollars. And they want to blame Texas. It seems like yesterday, Lionel. Yeah, well, that's because it pretty much was yesterday. And we seem to have moved on with the Trump administration, obviously.

Trump has successfully sealed the border. We never thought that was possible. Which we were told was impossible. Um And yet, it's worth bearing in mind what it was like before he came to power and what it could go back to. Yes.

If if the Republicans lose the White House. Um You know, I have my own. I have some problems with Trump personally, but I give him enormous credit on the immigration front. And one of the things that makes me fearful about the return of the Democrats to the White House is what they will do in relation to the border. Right.

Unless they actually learned their lesson and so they lost an election because of it. And you don't have to be irresponsible and idiotic in order to be a Democrat president, but who knows? Because there was a president that wanted to enforce the border, and it was named Bill Clinton. We talked about it. And maybe he wasn't as efficient as maybe others, but at least he talked about it.

And Schumer was, of course, you've got to have borders in a country. And Hillary Clinton at one point, but they all flipped it. I don't know what happened, but suddenly he realizes she basically wanted a borderless country. And now we have a party that said, when you brought up the border's broken and people are coming through, you had a president and Majorkis, an HHS secretary, who told us we had a problem, that there was no problem, or that there was cyclical migration. You heard all those experts.

Yes, cyclical migration, which Kamala Harris invited. Um I think that the left right now has been very successful in spinning these. Clearly controversial shootings in Minneapolis into a a whole con a perceived consensus around immigration that the American people do not believe in enforcing their own immigration law. They do not believe in deporting anybody And if you don't believe in deporting anybody, you don't really have a border. You do not have immigration law if you don't enforce it.

And I think that we have allowed the progressive left to get control of the So-called narrative, right? That's the story that you're reading in the likes of the New York Times. Every day, and that's even been exported internationally. There have been protests against ice in Milan, of all places. And it's none of their business.

It's insane. And it's the same people to a degree that were upset about climate change for a while, about George Floyd for another time. This is like the radicals that were talking about the end of the world with climate change, and now they picked a new issue. I guess illegal immigrants and ICE are the new enemy. People don't realize ICE are Americans.

They're law enforcement. I thought Democrats would learn their lesson. When they said to fund the police, they lost every race there was. And James Carville, among others, says it's one of the dumbest phrases he ever heard in political history. But they're going down that path now with ICE out or defund ICE, which is pretty much the theme on Capitol Hill today as ICE officials Todd Lyons and Rodney Scott are forced to defend themselves in front of Congress.

Well, I think that the the left is Successfully promoting the idea of ice being a gestapo, right?

So that you can take certain images out of context and it looks like, oh, we live in a police state. You can't walk down the street without being asked for your papers. And um But if you if you work out the logic of of you know defund ICE, you know, cancel ICE. The logic is open borders. That is the position.

That is the real position. And it interests me that the. The progressive left. never takes responsibility for the implications of their Their positions. That is, they never completely embrace and advocate: let's have open borders.

We don't believe in deporting anybody, even criminals. There are no aliens. There are no aliens. There is no such thing as a person who's illegal, which is nonsense. Of course, your presence can be illegal.

But then never say so outright. I don't know of any politician, any Democrat in office who is saying. Yes, we take responsibility for this position. We believe anyone in the world should be able to come to the United States. Cross our borders against our laws.

Violate their visa restrictions and overstay. And that's a huge proportion of illegal immigration. We don't believe it is our right to keep anyone out of the United States. And by the way, that is a perspective which is widely shared internationally. I've lived in Europe for most of my adult life, and I can testify.

Everyone out there believes that Immigration to the United States is a human right. that that any other country can have borders, and if you violate their immigration laws, you'll end up in jail or kicked out of the country. That's fine. But the United States Being a nation of immigrants doesn't have the right to keep anyone out. Which is absolutely insane.

And for those people out there who think, well, I have a big heart.

Well, do you have a big heart when your school classrooms for your grandchildren or children go from 20 to 35? Do you have a big heart when those additional needs go to people, kids who, instead of your kid, go to some kid who does not speak English, so they're going to take up most of the time of the classroom with your taxpayer dollars? What about health care? What does it do to your health care system in the state? That's your big heart when they're overrun or your family doesn't have access because of illegal immigrants who aren't paying into the system, just using the system?

They have to play this out. And for those who think that Democrats will get the Hispanic vote because of this, look what has gradually happened through every election. It has not produced that. That was my hope, that they'd sober up and go, our plan is not working. But it's not.

Well, people who are already legal residents of the United States have no motivation to have open borders. They have the same investment in how their taxes are spent as everyone else.

So Yes, the Democrats have been wrong on this point.

Some of the strongest support for Trump was right in the border regions of Texas, for example, because Possible. These people were living with the consequences of an unenforced border. Their own properties were overrun with. often criminals, drug runners. We're just people who Of I frankly couldn't find a bathroom.

It's unpleasant. It is. Lionel Shriver's with us now. By the way, forget about the fentanyl and the gotaways. There are people that come across and say, I would declare asylum, I'm running for my life, and there's others that don't want to be caught.

Those are the ones we got to catch up to, especially about two million. I think between 9 and 11 came to R and Biden. We have scooped up 630,000 in the first year under Trump and 1.9 million self-deported on incentives knowing that they couldn't stay. Lionel Shriver, our guest, she's got a brand new book out. It's a novel, but based on her experiences and her columns, it's called A Better Life.

I do want to talk to you, too, about. What's going to happen in New York City? Because with this mayor, he basically is getting in place, basically rehearsing what they're doing in Minneapolis. He wants to do here. At some point, Tom Holman, I hope, is going to surge resources here.

Because we have a huge illegal immigration issue here. Massive. Massive. So at one they are mobilizing and rehearsing now against it. How do you see this playing out?

It could be similar to what happened in uh Minneapolis. Uh because Yeah. There is a large progressive contingent in New York. Let's face it. Oh and This is their latest cause.

Uh my next door neighbor is in Brooklyn. I have a a little place in Brooklyn. you know, ice out of New York in the window. This is going to be a popular position and it's going to be uh very attractive to people who you know, want to show off wh what good people they are. This is the new righteousness.

The good people don't take anyone in. It doesn't really affect them. Those are the same ones who thought it would be a great idea to put a 34-year-old, inexperienced guy with one job before who speaks good, great on TikTok, with no managerial experience. Those are the ones that put him in office. Those rich, successful people or that inherited their wealth in New York City.

What would it take for people to sober up and understand your big heart is getting us in big trouble?

Well, you need to look at the statistics. I mean, my my larger position is that we need to be more discriminating in the best sense about who we let into the country, who we give permanent residence and the ability to work. who we let become citizens. We're in a position to be choosy. I don't think we should be running our immigration policy as a charity.

It is, we should be operating out of self-interest. Let people in who are educated. who speak English or who are likely to learn English quickly. Who are going to bring skills to our country, who are going to be net contributors. But if you look at the people that we're letting in sloppily, without discrimination, for the most part, it's anybody who managed to break the law and get away with it and their families.

70% of our immigration has been family reunification. That's not in the interests of our country. It isn't. They come here illegally and then send for the rest. How about you know what the President famously said, though, they are coming from blank hole countries.

And he said, we're going to ban all immigration from these nations. It's a severe answer, but it's on the right track. And lastly, you had a column about the wealth tax. Big story about how many people are leaving California.

So they decide on the 20, on midnight, I believe on January, on December 31st, they're going to put a wealth tax. And it's causing most of the most successful people in California to just exit that state. This is something that the British have done in the past, and it's been an epic disaster. Could you talk about why this is important for people to understand, even if you're not a millionaire-billionaire? It's been a disaster wherever it's been tried.

Uh At a certain point. Even people who are wealthy and and you you know, okay, that's a lot of money, I want it. Why don't we have it for health care? That's because, first of all, they earned it. And second of all, they have been paying taxes.

That's how our governments are actually surviving on the backs of the affluent. But most of all, especially on a state level, these people are mobile. And they're not idiots. That's why they're rich. That means They're not going to just sit still.

and wait for you to uh confiscate all their assets.

So they leave. And this is uh I mean, if you're familiar with the Laffer curve, there's a certain point beyond which you raise taxation and you lose money. And this is exactly the kind of initiative that loses money. And furthermore, you know. The one that they want to bring in in California, it hasn't passed yet.

Is Um It supposedly Only on billionaires. But as soon as you start taxing people's post-tax assets, There's no limit to how low a level of income they can start stealing from you. And now what they try to do is track you.

So for some reason, if you move out, they're going to track you down if you have the billionaires tag and find out where you are and try to tax you, even if you're in Arizona or another state. Oh yeah, that's uh it's definitely they're trying to turn all democratic states into roach motels, you know. You can go in, but you can't go out. Right, so just so you know, this is going to further have California lose people. Between 202015 and 2025, they've lost 630,000 people.

They lose 173 a day. This is the first time in history this has happened since they came into the Union. I know. California is supposed to be our paradise. And everyone's leaving paradise.

And they're going to nominate the guy that gave us this dumpster fire of a series of policies in Gavin Newsom. At least he's the frontrunner. Hey, go out and pick up Lino Shriver's book. She's done a fantastic job. She also writes for the spectator.

It's called A Better Life. It's a novel, but it's based on everything we lived through. Lionel, congratulations. Thank you very much. Back in a moment.

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Previgin made for your brain. You said in Phoenix at the Border Security Expo that you wanted to see a deportation process that was like, quote, Amazon Prime. but with human beings. Mr. Lyons, how many times has Amazon Prime shot a mom three times in the face?

None, sir. But you're also It's the square root of zero, that's right. Yes, sir. But if we're going to go down that route of my comment, I did say that comment.

However, that comment was taken out. If you go back and watch the video, I did say that we need to be more efficient. When it comes to removing individuals from the United States, but I did say at the end of it, but we deal with human beings, so we can't be like them. And speaking of the key part that you're leading up.

Well, speaking of human beings, how many times has Amazon Prime shot a nurse 10 times in the back? None. How many times has Amazon Prime dragged a woman out of her car by her hair and then dragged her down the street? None. That's the give and take that we're looking at right now.

So, Eric Swalwell, Todd Lyons, going back and forth. Dan Goldman now speaking now, trying desperately not to get primaried by someone to his extreme left.

So, he's going to have an agenda.

So, I think Todd Lyons is going to be front and center. I think it's going to be more his policies and less Christian Ohm's policies. And Tom Holman is going to be announcing a pullout of Minneapolis by another probably 400, 500 officers gradually because they're getting the people that they need and they're actually getting cooperation, even if the politicians won't admit it. We'll see if this is going to happen across the country. See you tomorrow on Fox and Friends.

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