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Same here.
So we can fund the government for another two weeks right now. What do you think's going to emerge as we try to work out some compromises on ICE and federal immigration enforcement?
Well, there'll be some adjustments in how ICE goes about these immigration arrests and deportations. Probably not very much. Broadly speaking, I think the public is on the administration's side, broadly speaking. But in terms of some of the methods that have led to deaths among people who, whatever they did, probably most people feel didn't deserve to die, there'll be and have already been some changes in that. But this is a very interesting set of developments, Brian, because in a way you look at the state of Minnesota and you think this is upside-down land out there.
I mean, people are coming to enforce the law. It is their duty and responsibility to do that under the law, and they're being told to get out of the state. I mean, I don't think since the civil rights era in the sixties when these southern politicians were trying to block the enforcement of new civil rights laws, um I I don't think I've ever seen anything like that since that era. And that was a remarkable time.
So Tom Holman's out now and he's talking about drawing down 700 agents immediately. But there's also some reports that Jackie Heinrich was saying that they have agreed to give him access to prisons. Britt, you know this and I had to be reminded of it. That it was Barack Obama that set this up with Tom Holman. And Jay Johnson, to be able to go into prison and say, you got some illegal immigrants, we got pinged that you made an arrest.
And they said, great, hold them for us. The controversy was sometimes they had to hold them past when they were serving for whether it was shoplifting or whatever infraction. And sometimes, so they said, no, no, we'll come in time. As soon as you arrest them, we'll come right away.
So there's not going to be any extra detainment.
So you have to wait for federal officials to show up. That was the controversy. But after Donald Trump got elected and said, I want to build the wall and kick out illegals, that's when Democrats started digging in on this. And now he's back and they're digging in more.
Well, I think that that it the point is is that he was real that he was elected again and uh reawakened the Never Trump movement and opp opposition to Donald Trump as strong as you can make it. is the order of the day in the Democratic Party. It is what the Democratic Party base, broadly speaking, seems to want. And that is why you see these things happening under Donald Trump that didn't happen when even though they're the same thing under other presidents.
So that is really where we are. We are in a place where resist, resist, resist, it's the order of the day and e every Democratic politician recognizes that and that is what they're doing. I know. I mean, that's what's happening. You know what's interesting?
People were talking, we were talking about this on the five yesterday. You know, we're back to woke. We thought woke was done, and I don't think we are. You know, there's people now that uh taking great uh pleasure in saying let's defund ICE, and there's now they're going back to that chop zone from Seattle, blocking off certain blocks. They're running plates, uh civilians running plates.
To make sure that you're not an ICE agent going into neighborhoods or they won't let you in. I see that this is the same behavior, but it's not growing and being replicated and enforced by corporate America, by celebrities, by other left-wing activists. I see a difference here, do you? I think the politics have changed. And the only thing that b except that within the Dem within interior drama of the Democratic Party, um, these things look you know, are are thought to be popular and will get you get you uh of approval wi within the base of the party.
And of course, you know, when you're running for election in a seat that is would otherwise be safe if you're a Democrat, You don't want to be caught out appearing to cooperate with Donald Trump or his law enforcement officers in any way. It's just, I've never seen anything like it. And we've all seen politicians that, you know, I know Democrats, Republicans would revel in pushing back against Barack Obama. I know that. And Bill Clinton, absolutely.
And they turned on George Bush after initially going with him after 9-11. We watched that. But Britt, can you compare the pushback on those former presidents with the pushback on this current president? I think it's unmistakably more intense with this President. It's the mo it's the it's the the most uh intense resistance I've ever seen of any president, the ones you mentioned and all the ones that came before.
And partly that's because the country is legitimately deeply divided. And and we're in a situation where it's very hard to get compromise on major issues because they're so dug in, their their bases are so intensely emotional about these issues. And th th these politicians are just simply doing what getting reelected requires them to do. Hi everyone, it's Brian Kilmead here. Are you tired of those uncomfortable dress shirts, especially when they bunch up under a sweater?
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So, Britt, I just want you to hear how severe some of these left-wingers are. Listen what they're calling for. Here's Congresswoman. Jayapal, cut six. I mean, the whole DHS is a creation post-9-11 that should not exist.
It is way too unwieldy. It's all these agencies put together. They should not be there. Right now, they're detaining 76,000 people every night in detention centers. And 95% of them have zero criminal record.
So this is something I honestly never thought I would see in the United States of America. See, he's totally wrong on that. 70% have either been waiting for their charges to be pending or they've been convicted of a crime already. I'm not sure about how many people are in detention, but there's a reason. Hello.
Yeah, Bridge, you're still there? Yeah. There is a reason. I'm sorry. There is a reason.
The reason is, well, look, first and foremost, the reason is that these people came here illegally and in doing so committed a crime. It is a misdemeanor to be here illegally, but it is a crime.
So for them to say there's no criminal record, what I guess they're meaning to say is that they have they have not committed any further crimes once they got here. And of course that's and that's a piece of this, Brian, that has to be kept in mind, which is, you know, there's a large category of illegal immigrants who are here who have lived peacefully, worked hard, paid taxes, been good neighbors, and are very much liked in their communities. And to see them swept up in these immigration raids and hauled away, sometimes hauled away from their families or even with their families, can be a heartbreaking sight. And that is something the administration needs to deal with. It has been said by this administration over and over again that they're doing the worst first and maybe Maybe they are.
But as a matter of politics, people broadly favor the deportation of illegal immigrants. But when they see these pitiable sights of people that they know and have no fear of and may even like very much hauled away suddenly, that touches people's hearts. True. Let's go to Iran. Britt, I can almost see you doing stand-ups for ABC News, talking about the hostage crisis.
I can almost remember this has been a problem with Ronald Reagan and Oliver North signing Bibles to them, and they've been a problem. The Cobar Towers and what they did to hurt our actions and kill our people directly with EFPs and other things in Iraq. And now we have Iran who took out our drone when Trump and Trump turned one and rocketed Saudi Arabia that we didn't really react to, but we took out Salome. And then we had that operation that blew up and set back their nuclear program. And now I think we're heading towards a confrontation.
Yesterday, a U.S. carrier, the USS Abraham Lincoln, shot Down a drone 500 miles away that was heading our direction. It would have been a Shaheed 139, which is a one-way drone, which means it's there to blow something up. And then they tried to take a civilian tanker. It did refuse to be pulled over, and then the Navy came to rescue it.
This doesn't seem like a country afraid to confront us or convinced we will. Where do you think this is heading?
Well, my view is it's probably heading for military action by the United States simply because the President has kind of gotten out on a limb on this. The warnings he gave to Iran before this massacre of civilian protesters, the things he said that helped us on the way to the protesters, and then the massacres occurred and he didn't do anything, at least not yet. And then that's been thought about this huge buildup of military assets in the region such that massive destruction could be visited on Iran. And Iran's trying to get out of it by saying, well, we'll negotiate with you about our nuclear program. A nuclear deal, a new nuclear deal, is not going to help the people of Iran very much.
All it will do is forestall U.S. military action.
So I don't think it's going to work for the Iranians. I don't think there will be a deal available. And I don't think they've shown any signs, any way, that they're willing to accede to the administration's demands.
So that leaves the President where he kind of has to act, or he's going to look weak in the deterrence of other Enemies that he may have created by the actions in Iran earlier, and particularly by the recent capture of Nicola Maduro, would be lost if he backed away on Iran.
So I think he'll have to do it. And so, Britt Hume, there's also the chaos of how these talks were supposed to take place, trilateral talks on the urgency of Turkey. It was going to be Jerry Kushner representing us along with Witkoff. All right. And then out of nowhere, Iran says we're going to change who's representing us, change locations and formats.
We're only talking about one thing, and that's the nuclear program. We're not talking about financing of proxy groups or anything else. Really?
So I guess we're going to pursue it. But like you said, if we walk out with a nuclear deal that no one believes that they're going to fulfill, that to me is not something we should even be thinking of. I sense, just judging by President Trump's pattern. They were buying more time to get Thad missiles, Patriot missiles, and maybe more intelligence in place to see what type of attack we actually want to do. Yeah, and it's a challenge to figure out an attack that would not completely destroy the country, but would take down the regime.
We've done some remarkable things lately militarily. Um, but this is this is a significant challenge. And but I think in the end It's going to happen. You know, why do you think, Brett, that we have about five Gulf states, Arab nations, that are. Rivals, if not enemies, with Iran, urging us not to act.
Are we to believe they mean this, or is that for public consumption? What do you think? I think they generally are worried about a retaliation in the region from Iran. Iran can't really do much to the United States for all of its bluster, but it can hit targets in that region, our allies and friends. And they're worried that when the retaliation comes for any U.S.
military action, it will be against them because they can't hit the U.S.
So I think their worry is real, which is why I think, as you point out, these anti-missile systems are something we're trying to put in place over there. All right, well, we'll see how this goes. Britt Hume, thanks so much. Always great. Exciting times.
My pleasure. Thank you.
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