Trump says "won't use force" to acquire Greenland

From Hippolyte. Fox News headquarters in New York City. Always seeking solutions, never sowing division. It's Brian Kilmead.

Well, welcome to the Brian Killmeat Show. I'm Jason Chaffetz, filling in for Brian. Excited to do that. Always an honor. Thanks, Brian, for letting me sit in your seat.

One of the hardest-working guys in all of television and certainly radio. And there's a lot going on in the world today. Oh, my goodness. You have uh President Trump. He's off in Davos.

Um he's uh he's gonna certainly make waves and we got a lot to talk about with the everything from Greenland to our economic conditions. I mean there's a lot to talk about out there. But I want to get right after something that I think is perhaps one of the most. Most compelling, most important, most urgent things that the United States has been dealing with, and that has to do with mass migration. And it got nobody better.

Then Peter Schweitzer, he's got a new book out. Peter Schweitzer is the President of the Government Accountability Institute, of which I'm associated and do some work with. He's one of the most important investigative journalists we've had. In fact, if you look over the last, I think, twenty years, Nobody has sold more books and As an investigative journalist, than Peter Schweitzer. And so you know it's going to be well researched.

You know it's going to come with all the receipts. And he's got a new book out called The Invisible Coup. Uh welcome Peter Schweitzer. Jason, great to be with you. Thanks for having me.

Well, look, I had the privilege and honor of having a look at this before it came out.

So I have actually read this book. And it is absolutely stunning. Let's walk through the thesis here because You know, I think there are a lot of people out there who say, well, you know, this immigration thing, you know, let's be careful. But there are some. efforts out there to truly change the trajectory of the United States of America.

And they're not all coming from a place of sweetness. Yeah. Yeah, that's right. You know, look, we've been debating immigration in this country for the last 10 years. And we've looked at how it affects wages and the economy, how it affects our culture, how it affects crime in our streets.

And President Trump was elected on a mission to seal the border and to get rid of criminal elements that are in the country, all of which is fantastic. He deserves enormous credit for that. This book, however, looks at something deeper, which is not just mass migration, but the weaponization Of migration. And so, what do I mean by that? When you look and debate immigration, you're primarily talking about the immigrants, the people that are coming, those that have criminal records, those that came into the country and are rapists.

My book is about the people that are actually driving mass migration because they have an agenda to undermine our country. And that includes actors like China, Mexico, the Muslim Brotherhood, but also some people domestically as well that see a political advantage to engaging in this.

So the book is called The Invisible Coup because um let's start with China. Because the China's doing some things behind the scenes where they they figure out where Any vulnerability is But talk to us about what you were able to find there. Yeah, you know, so China is very sophisticated in the way that they've exploited our immigration laws for the purposes of subversion. And all you have to do is look at the debate over birthright citizenship. You know, the Supreme Court's going to hear that case this spring.

And birthright citizenship is basically the claim that, you know, if you happen to be in the United States, you could be a tourist from Denmark or a tourist from China, and you give birth to a child in the United States, that child is automatically granted U.S. citizenship. And we really don't have a sense, the federal government doesn't have a sense of how much of a problem this is because we don't collect data on it. If you get a birth certificate, your child is born here, they don't put on their birth certificate the nationality of the parent.

So we literally have no clue. The Chinese have actually looked at this, and the numbers of just Chinese nationals doing this are stunning. And the remarkable thing is that. That they have a system for doing this. The Chinese government has encouraged people to do this.

They've run articles in the government newspapers saying you have a right to do this, you should do this. And the numbers are mind-blowing. The Chinese government estimates that over the last 13 years, every single year, roughly 100,000 Chinese nationals have done this. And what does that mean? That means we're looking at, based on their government estimates, more than 1 million.

U.S. citizens, I'll put that in air quotes, one million U.S. citizens who Have never lived in the United States. They were born here. The Chinese parents came here for the purpose of giving birth here.

They gave birth, then they returned to China. The child is raised in China in CCP schools, raised by the elite, and when they turn 18. They get to vote in U. S. elections.

They get to take government jobs. They get all kinds of benefits. This is a sophisticated subversion effort by the Chinese government to manipulate, and we are totally, totally oblivious to it. Yeah. They also use surrogacy in a level that is very sophisticated.

Talk us through what you found there. Yeah, you and I both, after you'd read the book, talked about this may be the most disturbing element of it.

So you've got the birth citizenship where a Chinese couple will come to the United States and give birth. You also have powerful men in China linked with the CCP who are renting essentially wombs from women in the United States. They call them carriers. The Chinese member of the elite will donate sperm. A woman will agree to carry in the United States, give birth to the child.

The mother is paid. That child is now born to an American mother and is born in the United States, but that child is immediately sent back to China.

Now, again, we don't have any idea of the scale of this. The government doesn't keep statistics on this, but we know a couple of things. We know, first of all, that there are some members of the The elite who are doing this on a massive scale. The Wall Street Journal had a piece just a couple weeks ago about one Chinese man tied to the CCP elite that has more than 100 children. Born in the United States this way.

And they're all U.S. citizens, by the way. And in the research that I lay out in the book in describing how this works, we found that just in Southern California, there are 107 Chinese-owned surrogacy companies that arrange these kinds of deals for members of the Chinese elite.

So again, this is a massive intrusion. And so I think when people look at Brookright citizenship, it's not some random thing that kind of happens. You actually have actors like the Chinese who on a grand and massive scale are using this to create a subversive element. And by the way, they did this in Hong Kong for a while, about 20 years ago. The government of Hong Kong shut it off.

Said, we know exactly why you're doing this. They shut it off.

So we need to do the same thing here.

Well, and of course, once you have a son or daughter who is a United States citizen, then you too can actually become a citizen.

So you get kind of three for one out of that. Let's move to Mexico here because they're doing some nefarious things as well, because they believe in reconquista. Explain that to us. Yeah, and you know, when I first saw this, I thought, no, this can't actually be true, but the words speak for themselves. I mean, there are numerous quotes in the book.

From Mexican officials talking about how they view mass migration from Mexico, from Latin America for that matter, coming into the United States as an opportunity to retake territories that they lost to us in the 19th century. Let me just read a couple briefly to you, Jason, so people realize that, and I could read dozens of quotes on this. This is from a Mexican government report in December of 2024 by one of President Scheinbaum, President of Mexico's top aides. Quote: We already know that the Mexican population in the United States reaches 39.9 million. We Mexicans are reclaiming our territory.

Or this from a powerful senator who sits on the National Defense Committee, which is the most powerful committee in the Mexican Senate. Quote, Mexicans are in our territories, California, Nevada, Texas, Utah, New Mexico, Arizona, Kansas, Oklahoma, Colorado, and Wyoming. We're going to take back the territory that was stolen from us. And literally, there are dozens of quotes in the book from senior officials saying the same thing. And it's not just bravado.

As I point out in the book, Jason, Mexico actually has an infrastructure of Mexican government officials who live inside the United States full time, who are engaged in political activities to undermine the United States. They're behind some of these violent protests and riots that we're seeing. And they're also intruding in our political elections, trying to defeat Trump. These are Mexican government officials trying to defeat Trump because of what he's doing at the border. It's a massive, massive intrusion into our sovereignty.

And again, it's different than the Chinese methodology, but it is an absolute effort to undermine the United States through immigration. We're, of course, talking to Peter Schweitzer, author of The Invisible Coup. And part of the way the Mexicans are doing this, Peter. They have consulates here. I mean, these are You know, Mexican you know, territory, if you will, a consulate.

Um they have a lot of them and they're using them for these nefarious purposes. Yes, it's this was another thing that was surprising to me.

So every country basically has a consulate. They have an embassy and they have consulates in the United States. China and the United Kingdom, Great Britain, have six and seven, respectively, consulates inside the United States. Mexico has 53. They have 53 consulates.

And what I point out in the book is not only are consulate officials involved in organizing some of these anti-ICE protests, they're also trying to defeat Trump and elect Democrats, which diplomats are not supposed to do. There was a meeting, for example, in May of 2024, the presidential election year, at the Oklahoma City Consulate of Mexico. We got a hold of the transcript of this meeting, so that's where we get these details. And at this meeting, they pulled together Mexican diplomats from consulates from Los Angeles to Orlando and everybody in between. They also had officials come from Mexico City, and the foreign minister of Mexico addressed them.

In a video speech. There was one other group that was there with all these diplomats, by the way, and that was Democratic Party activists and political organizers. And the discussion included a conversation in which they said: We turned California from red to blue, we turned Arizona from red to blue, we're working to turn the rest of the country from red to blue. Republicans need to learn that if you F around, you're going to find out.

So, this is blatant, blatant political activity by Mexican diplomats. They're not supposed to be doing that. And I think we have to have action in the form of scaling back, shutting down some of these consulates, and expelling diplomats that are engaging in this kind of blatant partisan political activity. And in the last 45 seconds, we have, it is unbelievable to me, but there are people who serve in the parliament in Mexico. who live in in the United States and their constituents are people that are in the United States illegally.

Yeah, yeah, it's remarkable. They elect what are called migrant senators and migrant deputies for their parliaments, and they live in places like Los Angeles and Arizona. In fact, the one from Arizona, Senator Ruez, wants to make California a state of Mexico. And so, yeah, this is again a blatant interference in our sovereignty. They should not have elected officials, Mexican-elected officials, living in the United States and pursuing Mexico's agenda with people that are living within our borders.

Unbelievable to me. This whole book is just chock full of revelations and statistics. I think there's like a thousand footnotes and stuff like this. Super well researched. Right at the top of the charts at Amazon.

I'm sure it'll be right at the top of the charts in the New York Times as well. It's called The Invisible Coup. The Invisible Coup, Peter Schweitzer's new book. It just came out yesterday.

So, congratulations to that. Peter Schweitzer, thanks for joining us on the Brian Kilmead Show. Really do appreciate it. Thanks for having me, Jason. Appreciate it.

All right, stay with us. We got a lot coming up, including Lucas Tomlinson, who's actually on the ground in Greenland coming up at the bottom of the hour. Stay with us. We'll be right back. Keeping you informed, engaged, and always a step ahead.

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If you're interested in it, Brian's talking about it. You're with Brian Kilmead. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton. joined her husband in defying a bipartisan lawful congressional subpoena to show up. We're going to hold both Clintons in criminal contempt of Congress.

Epstein claimed, and I don't know if this is true or not, he has said that he helped set up the Clinton Foundation.

Well, that's James Comer, Chairman of the Oversight Committee. And this morning, 10 a.m. Eastern, guess what? The Oversight Committee is meeting because there were duly issued subpoenas, though, both the Secretary of State Hillary Clinton and former President Bill Clinton. Interesting, when they decided to do those subpoenas, now I happen to know a little bit about this because I used to be the chairman of that committee.

I know how it works. When you issue a subpoena, the oversight chairman has a unique authority. You can unilaterally issue a subpoena. You don't have to go get permission. You don't have to go to a judge.

You don't have to get a vote. You don't have to do. You don't do any of that. You can just sign a piece of paper and it's uh you know it's duly issued. But James Comer did something that was smart, very smart politically.

I think he's handled his chop and roll just fantastic. And he what he did was he um he got the committee to vote on issuing the subpoenas. Um it wasn't just for the Glenns, but it was for others as well. But when he did so, he offered that and said, you know, do we all want to? Do we all want to issue these subpoenas?

Because remember, Democrats were barking as loud, if not louder, than others in terms of let's get all the Epstein information.

Well, they issued those subpoenas. The problem is that the Clintons they just decided they didn't feel like it.

So they decided not to do it. They They just, you know, I as I've liked this as I've said before, Uh subpoenas are not optional. you know, they they're not optional. But that's the way the Clintons have dealt with it. I mean, at least from the surface, that's the allegations.

They didn't show up, right?

So.

Now, 10 a.m. this morning, there in Washington, D.C., they have a hearing, and the question becomes: okay, Democrats. You had your political muscles to say, Hey, let's issue the subpoenas, but well now that they're defied, are you going to hold them in contempt? I think the Republicans will. They issued a subpoena, they're going to hold them in contempt.

That's what the German wants to do. But do we think the Democrats are going to hold them in contempt? Oh, we're going to figure out. What kind of hypocrisy? What kind of slippery slope?

What kind of creativity? You want to see political spin. in full motion, I know there's a lot happening in the world. You're going to want to see what Democrats say. When it comes time to vote, because once they do it out of committee, and they should be able to pass it out of the committee with just a majority, but they should it should be unanimous.

It was unanimous to issue it, it should be unanimous to enforce it. then they'll bring it to a floor vote. Then we're going to start to see Democrats really slip in and slide in because will they do that to their own? I don't think so. They you it's just political.

It it's so this is what disgusts America about the United States Congress and with what's disgusting on this this whole case Please stay with us. Lots to come. Lucas Tomlinson live in Greenland coming up when we get back from the break. This is the Brian Killmead Show. Stay with us, lots more to come.

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Well, welcome back to the Brian Kill Meat Show. I'm Jeecon Chief. It's villain in for Brian. I want to give a quick shout out to my podcast. Jason in the House.

If you have a chance, check out Jason in the House. We have a guest once a week, kind of dive a little deeper into who they are and how they got to where they got to. Right now, we have Chairman Risch. He's the chairman of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee. He's up on the podcast.

So, Jason in the House, if you get a chance. But we're excited to go. To Greenland because that's where the action is. And Lucas Tomlinson is on the ground with us in Greenland. Lucas, thanks for joining us on the Brian Kilmeet Show.

Good morning, Jason. It's a pleasure. My first call since I arrived here. You are everywhere. I mean, if you're not sweated out off the coast of Venezuela, you are in the colds of Greenland.

It is unbelievable what your schedule is. How do you back from the weekend co-host last weekend to a flight to Greenland on very short notice? Here we are, where the action is. No, you're always right in the thick of it. You've got a really interesting background in military and understanding things.

And I think that it's that background that does the network well and your perspective here. Look, the President is in Switzerland. He's in Davos. You are obviously keenly aware of what's going on in Davos. But I want to talk specifically about Greenland.

You haven't been there very long. First interview since you've been on the ground there. But give us a perspective. What's the feeling like? We're all kind of on the edge to see what the President and what happens.

The forum happens, but what's the latest?

Well, just a few minutes ago, President Trump just announced that he will not be taking Greenland by force.

So I'll be very curious to hear what the locals here in Nuuk, the capital of Greenland, have to say about that. But I can tell you, Jason, just arriving, just spending only a few hours on the ground, people are nervous. People are angry. They feel a sense of potential betrayal by a fellow NATO ally in the United States. Of course, the Danish government, Denmark, controls Greenland.

For decades, the U.S. military has operated a base. It's now called the Patufik Space Force Base. It's about 930 miles north of here. You know, Greenland's huge.

It's three times the size of Texas, but it has a population that's smaller than the capacity of any NFL football stadium. Just to put that in perspective, only 57,000 here in Greenland. But the Trump administration thinks it's strategic, not just for national security. That's where President Trump wants. To install the Golden Dome missile defense system to protect against.

rogue intercontinental ballistic missiles. But it's also where we've heard from Treasury Secretary Scott Bess and other officials that see an untapped market for rare earth minerals and oil. But it's notable, Jason, that Speaking to locals here, despite all the reserves under the ice here in Greenland, and it is chilly and it is there's a lot of ice. As I'm looking at, probably the biggest ice cube I've ever seen in person right now here, standing here, none of that oil or rare earth minerals has been tapped before. This is territory that relies on fishing.

90% of the business revolves around the fishing industry. Also, tourism plays a part during the long summer days. You know, whale watching, excursions, you know, backpacking, hiking, these are all things that attract people here. But really, day in and day out, it's the shrimping industry that dominates the local industry. But the Trump administration, we've heard from President Trump.

In fact, it really wasn't long after the successful Maduro raid, arguably one of the greatest special operations in history, when we heard from Stephen Miller's wife, Katie, posting soon over a map of Greenland covered in the red, white and blue. And that's what made a lot of locals, they tell me, nervous when they thought the Maduro raid, the Delta Force, the full Pegasus package could be arriving in Greenland. Yeah, they uh it it's interesting to me because look, our perspective of a local what do you call them, Greenlander? Greenlanders. Yeah, Greenlander is a little b probably different than you know what you get out of Topeka, Kansas or Atlanta, Georgia.

Yeah, you know, I understand that. But It's really interesting to see how they think they're going to be able to protect themselves. And what's fascinating to me is that, you know, China and Russia. These are countries on the move. And I don't understand why.

And maybe it's just a lack of media attention. But those types of efforts and those types of moves don't get the same type of attention than, obviously, if the United States decides to do something. That's right. We've heard from the Danish government saying, in essence, if you want to deploy more forces here, there's only a few hundred active duty U.S. military personnel on the island.

If you want to deploy the Danish government saying if you want to deploy more forces, great. If you want to do some trade deals and some business deals and help get rare earth and oil out of the ground, great. They're all for it. They just don't want to hand over the title to the Trump administration. And of course, as we've heard from the President, he's got his sight set on negotiating a deal for Greenland.

Explain to us the military component here, because if you believe that the polar ice gap is breaking up, which it has been, I mean, statistically, you can just look at it. You understand that Russia has been building icebreakers and believe that there are new pathways. Yeah, nuclear power. And explain the military imperative for China and Russia and why that's a threat to the United States. Yeah.

Well, you really have to adjust the globe. We're not used to looking at the globe from high above the Arctic. But when you do that, you see not a lot of countries control the Arctic. And of course, the United States is an Arctic nation with Alaska, and you see Russia in the picture. And the concern is, as these shipping lanes increase, that the Russians could militarize the Arctic.

We've seen bases from Russian forces being built in the past. We've seen increased patrols, of course, for years during the Cold War, which continues to this day, the deployment, not the Cold War, but the deployment of both American and Russian submarines. There was always this Cold War game. If a ballistic missile submarine is going to launch missiles at Russia or vice versa, the ice caps would be one of the places to do it just because of the distance would be greatly reduced. Anybody who's flown to Europe under the USA.

the Great Circle route. You fly over the North Pole, over the poles, because the Earth is a shorter distance from there.

So it's very strategic. We saw Bill Hemmer aboard the USS Hampton, the fast attack submarine breaking through the ice some months ago. It is still a very contested area, and it's where the U.S. Navy is increasing its presence. They're also seeing more Russian forces.

When it comes to the Chinese, I thought it was interesting when the Danish Foreign Minister was on with Brett Baer late last week saying he hadn't seen a Chinese warship off the coast of Greenland in a decade and seemed to be downplaying the Chinese influence. But of course, that's not what we get from the Trump administration. They're very concerned that if the United States and its business interests aren't here in Greenland, Russia and China as well.

Well, look, we love the Danes, but you know, two dog sled teams ain't gonna cut it for a place that's three times the size of Texas. And right. And let's not forget that on Thursday, there was a NATO contingent that deployed here to Greenland. It was Brits, Danes, Norwegians, even the Finns deployed some forces apparently in response to threats from President Trump. And It was that night, Thursday night, that President Trump issued the tariff threat and said if things don't change by February 1st, there's going to be 10 percent tariffs on European allies.

Not clear if that's an addition, what the tariffs are already levied. And also if it's not fixed by the springtime, they can be upward of 25 percent.

Well, Lucas Tomlinson, real quickly, give us your quick take on what's happening in Davos before we cut you loose here. I think it was very notable that President Trump said he will not take Greenland by force. That's big news from the President. He was a little coy when asked about that in recent days. And the fact that he said he does not want to take Greenland by force, I think, will be very welcomed not only by European allies, but the people here in Greenland.

But also, let's be honest, a lot of people back home are a little wary of foreign entanglements. Yeah, I think it'll be interesting because Donald Trump's not one to forget. And you don't want the safety and security and protection of the United States that way. I think President Trump wants to say, let's make a deal. Exactly.

Lucas Tomlinson on the ground there in Greenland. Thanks so much for joining us. Thanks, Jason. All right, let's go let's go to cut forty one, because this is uh President Trump in Switzerland talking about the history with uh Greenland. When Denmark fell to Germany, After just six hours of fighting, and was totally unable to defend either itself or Greenland.

So the United States was then compelled. We did it, we felt an obligation to do it. to send our own forces to hold. The Greenland Territory And hold it we did at great cost and expense. They didn't have a chance of Getting on it and they tried.

Denmark knows that. We literally set up bases on Greenland for Denmark. We fought for Denmark. We weren't fighting for anyone else. We were fighting to save it.

For Denmark, big, beautiful piece of ice. It's hard to call it land, it's a big piece of ice. But we saved Greenland. and successfully prevented our enemies from gaining a foothold in our hemisphere.

So we did it for ourselves also. Yeah. The President's making a really good point here, and again, can't Negate the size and scope of this, but there are some people that think that Donald Trump just woke up one day and decided he was. You know, he was going to acquire things. And that's not the case.

They're literally, you know. Decades worth of history here, and really important strategically because I think what Donald Trump has done. And probably doesn't get us enough credit for is understanding. the world and its relationship in how we have to protect ourselves. That China and Russia and other nefarious actors do not have our best interest in hand.

And one of the things they did is built that. Base. In Greenland, that is a Space Force base.

Now This is my contention, having served in Congress. I have a little bit of perspective. Everybody does who's listening to this. There is a war that is going on in space. That's my contention.

Is it the same sort of kinetic War and fight with people dying that you would see in in Africa or somewhere else? No. But The ability to control and to create safe spaces in the atmosphere in in space is very real. You know, if President Obama put us in a position where he basically got, you know, scuttled the shuttle program, we had no ability to get up into space. But without space, we create an incredible vulnerability for the United States.

So Donald Trump gets elected. He. Ramps up NASA you have Elon Musk and Space Force doing what they're doing, and then Donald Trump did one of the smartest things that's been done. It was bold, but that's what Donald Trump does. He created the Space Force.

Understanding That we have great branches in the military, but we need to have those that can specialize in space. And have those types of experts out there to deal with satellites, satellite communications. You know, we think of satellites like. Yeah, how do I get that NFL game coming up this weekend? You know, I got to make sure my Sunday tickets are working.

Oh my goodness. Imagine what life is like without satellite communications, without. telephone communications without GPS. I mean everything from farming to communications to transportation to weapon systems, y you name it, we we kind of melt and go down to nothing. Donald Trump put that in motion.

And so when you start looking at this need to build a dome with hypersonic weapons. Weapons that can move from continent to continent like in a minute or two, then you start to understand that you have to have a technological superiority. That quite frankly, we didn't have when Donald Trump started, but that we're building and developing now to lead the world. And what does that do? It makes us a peaceful nation.

When you know you can protect yourself. You can do a lot of good in the world, and you don't have to live under threat of somebody else.

So what Donald Trump is doing I think was absolutely brilliant. Um we'll be we'll see how this whole thing plays out in Greenland. But I think what we'll look back on is we'll say, you know what? It's been a month, and you know what? The United States is safer and secure than it was before.

And the Danes have finally picked up. They've decided to put billions, billions of dollars into the safety and security of Greenland. Which is helpful to the United States of America. And so I look in the rearview mirror and you say, you know what, Donald Trump. Created a safer place.

For the world and for the United States. What a president who's focused on peace does, and that's where I see Donald Trump and what he's done now. Lots more to come. Stay with us. We got a lot to talk about.

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Well, thanks for joining us. I'm Jason Chaffetz, filling in for Brian. And as we kind of wrap up this hour, it's really interesting. I saw this and I retweeted it. Christy Dome, Secretary of Homeland Security.

Here's what she wrote. She wrote Minnesota's Worst of the Worst. Department of Homeland Security has arrested over 10,000. criminal illegal immigrants in Minnesota since POTUS Trump took office. These are the worst of the worst, murderers, rapists, and pedophiles.

We will not stop our mission to make America safe again. Ten thousand. Just Minnesota, just the criminal element. And it's not as if they're done. Like, they aren't just kind of wiping their hands saying, all right, we did that, we're all good.

Uh that's That's pretty amazing. That's a that's a huge, huge number. I want you to listen to Jason Hauser, former ICE Chief of Staff. He was on MSN now. This is Cut 12.

I must say, I've talked to dozens, if not hundreds, of state and local law enforcement as well as keep in touch, you know. All the time with my former colleagues. Any officer, former or current that I hear from, the sort of sort of Sure. How this is being carried out, no one sees as sort of in the public safety interest. And we're starting to see the outcomes of that.

in our communities starting to personally affect not just migrants. but our communities, because whether it's political opportunism, Or whether it's sort of quota arrest targets, whether it's just sort of sort of driving fear as sort of a deterrent to kind of stop individuals from seeking asylum or coming to our country and our immigration system, ACE and seek this was not built. to oversee 14 million. But can I ask you about the human creation docket? That's the former, under President Biden, that's the former chief of staff at ICE.

Are you kidding me? Doesn't see it as law enforcement? Like what do they think they do? in terms of getting rid of the criminal element. I I mean There are literally tens of millions of people here illegally.

Last time I looked, it's still illegal to be here illegally. But the criminal element. That's the thing that I think has to continue to say, hey. Why aren't you cooperating? Why don't you help them?

If things would be a lot more peaceful, a lot easier, if there was some cooperation to get rid of that criminal element.

Well, thanks for joining us on the Brian Kill Me Show. I'm Jason Chaffett, filling in for Brian. Lots more to come. Stay with us. From the Fox News Radio Studios in Midtown Manhattan, it's the fastest growing radio talk show.

Brian Kilmead.

Well, almost Brian Killmeade. I'm Jason Chaffetz filling in for Brian today. You know, he's the hardest working guy in radio and television, so he's not taking any time off. But I got to fill in his feet for a little while.

So thanks, Brian, for letting me do that. We had a lot on the show, a lot coming up. We got the president overseas speaking. We got Venezuela, we got Minnesota, got artificial intelligence, you got the Oversight Committee, which is just now putting down the gavel to hold the Clintons in contempt. We got a lot going on.

But we're thrilled to kick things off because Burgess Owens, Congressman from my home state of Utah. He is joining us now. Congressman Owens, thanks so much for joining us. Jason, looking forward to chatting with you, my friend. Absolutely.

Now it's uh look, Congressman Owens Real important role in transportation infrastructure, the education committee, everything he's doing in Congress. But it's hard to get through a conversation with you, Congressman, without talking a little bit of football, given that you got a Super Bowl ring and all.

So I just want to get your quick top-line take: Indiana winning the national championship. That was a pretty amazing moment. It was, of course, for those who don't know, I came from the University of Miami, so of course I was rooting for the other side. But I was thinking about the way that the quarterback ended that game. First of all, I was so impressed with the talent.

I have not watched a lot of college, but I so much appreciate the talent that I saw that night. But more importantly, the play that he got across the goal line. You saw tenacity, you saw grit, and you saw that last stretch. That to me reminds me of the Trump administration. This is what has happened over the last year.

Hard hit throughout the last few years, but when it comes down to focus on the goal and getting across the goal line, that's what we saw that night. And I have a lot of respect for the young man. He's going to do very well from what I can see in the little time I had a chance to watch him play. I got a lot of criticism with college football and the college football playoffs, but that inspirational last effort I think inspires a lot of people. We'll talk more about that later.

Let's talk about the president, though. He's overseas. He's overseas. You've been watching his comments he's made there in Davos. What's your Top-level takeaway?

I tell you what, to me, is inspirational. President Trump is going to speak and talk the same way, whether you're in the room or not. That is the confidence that we need to see from our president, our country, being very straightforward, being very, this is who we are, and it's America first. There's no apologies about President Trump. And I tell you what, this is what inspires respect.

Whether you like him or not, you end up leaving, respecting this person, and realize that he's going to say exactly what he feels and then act upon that.

So I'm excited, to be honest with Browns with Jason. You've been around this process for a long, long time. And I have to give credit to those who served on Congress, could never really get a lot done because of the complexity of the way this works here. This last year has been a remarkable year for Americas, and for me to be able to be part of it, just experience it. It's been just a great experience, to say the least.

Yeah, for President Trump, I think, accomplished in his first year more than most presidents. President's due in four or eight years, that's for sure. Unbelievable, the number of things that he was taking on. The hot topic in the moment: the president announcing that he's not going to use force to take over Greenland. I think most anticipated that probably wasn't going to be the case, but used as a negotiating tool.

What's your take on where we're at with Greenland?

Well, you know, I think part of what we're seeing with the Trump administration is we're getting educated in terms of how things should work. When you have a president who's truly America first, who's very smart, he's a genius when it comes down to business, to negotiating, and we realize he also understands the place that America should sit and be. And so what he's really doing is educating American people this place of land is part of our national security and that NATO is not going, is not either too weak or too unwilling to ever protect or want to protect the United States.

So it's something we have to do ourselves.

So this is a conversation. Many of us had not known the history of Greenland and Denmark and how we actually had it at one point and gave it away. But at this time with the threat that we have from China and Russia, this is a very important part of this process. He made something, a statement I think was pretty forth telling. It says, we'll appreciate you if you say yes.

We will remember you say no.

So that says in essence, let's work out a deal so everybody walks away feeling that it's a win win. And a win win for America is a win win for the rest of the country not only of the rest of our country, obviously, those neighboring countries, but the rest of the world for sure. No, absolutely. I think that's the right approach. Let me shift gears and let's go back domestically and talk about ICE and Minnesota.

Because it's not just Minnesota, it is much bigger, broader discussion about the role of ICE. You know, Christy Noam, I highlighted, you know, Secretary of Homeland Security, put out that in just Minnesota, they had arrested 10,000 criminal illegal aliens since President Trump has been in office. 10,000. And yet there's some out there saying, Oh, that ice makes things less safe. I I am so like cannot figure out how taking criminal illegal aliens um out of our neighborhoods, off our streets, is anything other than making the world a safer place.

Well, Jason, you have to remember who we're dealing with. This is the same group that Billy M. was rioting and burning down the cities that say in the fundamentals, the same group. And that group are a bunch of Marxists, and they thrive on chaos. We have to understand what makes our country a great country is: we believe in law and order.

We believe in being able to look down the road, look into years, and have a plan and work because it's very predictable. The other side, allows for us to be in chaos, to be divisive, divided, and not to have the village of dream. And they've done that very well in the cities that they control. Look at every city that Democrats control. There is chaos.

There's lack of education. There's lack of cohesiveness. There's no people don't want to go visit those cities anymore.

So we have to understand what we're up against. It's not a logical conversation. It's not something you can make any sense of because for the left, it's a spiritual deal. It's their religion. Marxism, anti-capitalism is who they are.

So understand that and recognize we're not going to do so much, but educate our kids to what it is moving forward so they will never have the power they've had over the last few decades. Yeah, I I just this idea that federal law enforcement is anything other than helpful and accretive to local law enforcement. And you know, I heard my friend Tom Holman make a Make a comment and he said, You know, you know how many ICE officers it takes to detain and apprehend somebody who's maybe wanted for, I don't know, rape? When they're in the jail, it only takes one. But if you if you let him out the back door and then we got to go chase him down, then it could take thirty.

So if you want less ICE officers. Cooperate with us, and we're talking about the criminal element here. Then you gotta do things smarter. Once again, you're using common sense and logic, Jason. And keep in mind again, we have some very brave men that go out there and do the heavy lifting they're doing.

And you're right, when you have a city, a mayor and a governor that actually puts people that are dangerous back in this community, they don't care about the community. What they're caring about is their power. And if we get back to what the hard left does, Marxists, socialists, you name them, they love this thing of power. And they don't mind making everybody's life miserable. That's why we look at education, you look at business ownership, anything that gives people hope and the desire to dream and work hard and be productive.

Everything that does that, they are again.

So ICE represents basically, we're going to reset. What has happened to us the last four years? We'll get people out of our country who don't belong here, and we're going to start off with the worst of the worst.

Now, if they allow us, if they work with us, the worst of the worst is very easy to find. If not, we have to go into this community, as you just mentioned, and find them. And it puts everybody at risk. In the states that are doing it right, you don't have this chaos, this craziness. You have people appreciating, being able to walk the streets, knowing that there's somebody looking out for them versus looking out for their power and those who really don't belong here at this point.

No, it makes a lot of sense. Burgess Owens, Congressman Burgess Owens from the great state of Utah, thanks so much for joining us on the Brian Killmead Show. Do appreciate it. Jason, thanks for the opportunity, my friend. All the best, and you take care.

Alright, before we go to commercial, I want to play this clip here and just make a quick comment on it. Let's go to clip ten because this is uh Mayor Zoran Mamdani on the View. Oh, and they just gush over him on that show. Listen to this one, clip ten. Mr.

Mayor, and I love saying that. Mr. Mayor, let's talk about the unfortunate situation unfolding in Minnesota. I am in support of abolishing ICE, and I'll tell you why. And there is a way to.

to care about immigration in this city and in this country with a sense of humanity. What we're seeing from ICE is not it, and we have not seen that from them in a long, long time.

So You know, it's It's really nice to have you here. You make sense. It didn't say anything. You know, he didn't say anything. Oh, we can talk about immigration.

No, Democrats had the House, the Senate, and the Presidency. I was there. I was on the Immigration Subcommittee. I was on judiciary. Democrats didn't even introduce a bill.

So don't be telling me that they've got some big plan, they need comprehensive immigration reform, they need this, that, and the other. When they had a chance, they didn't do it. Um The reality is, we're trying to get rid of the criminal element. And that's the part that's. I think there is a subversive effort to try to create some chaos around this.

It's unfortunate because the men and women who serve in ICE, these are people. There are neighbors, there are friends, there are people who go to work each day and are trying to do things. And these are some really bad, bad people. This is these are people who are doing things in in a way that you just don't want them in your neighborhood. And um I think we have a higher moral obligation to the people who do things legally and lawfully.

'Cause there are about a million of them that come in each year. We we take in more people than every other country combined. And we do it we have a higher moral oblig a moral obligation to those people. That's my take on it. Stay with us.

We're going to be right back with more on the Brian Kilmead Show. It's Brian Kilmeid. The fastest three hours in radio. You're with Brian Kilmead. Hey, this is Jason Chaffetz filling in for Brian, and we got things happening in Minnesota.

So we want to get right after it in Minnesota because. Michelle Tafoya. Putting her out in the ring, and we need to talk about that. She wants to change the trajectory of what's going on in the great state of Minnesota. Michelle Tafoya, congratulations.

You just launched your campaign. Tell us what you're running for and why. Oh, hey, good to talk to you, Jason. Yes, I am running for U.S. Senate.

I'm really running. I mean, everyone across the country is seeing what's going on in Minnesota. We've had a failure of leadership at just about every level. And the career politicians here have put us in this position, and it doesn't look like they're going to get us out of it.

So I think some of us have to step up and throw our hats in the ring. I've lived here over 30 years, about 32 years now, raised my family here. I know what Minnesota can be. And right now, we've been in decline for several years. The streets are no longer as peaceful as they used to be.

We've got violent crime up.

Meanwhile, school test scores are down, which is just absolutely unacceptable. Our leaders are allowed all the fraud that people have heard about. And, you know, the far left is coming and trying to turn this place into a war zone.

So, you know, this isn't really right versus left. This is right versus wrong. And I want to get us back to that common sense that. Normalcy that built Minnesota and really built this country instead of the craziness and the corruption.

So we need an outsider. We need someone with a spine who's going to hold politicians accountable, tell the truth, not lie, and fight for Minnesotans. And that's why I'm running for Senator.

So, you know, it's a big step to say, you know what, I think I'll put my hat in the ring. That's, you know, for what. What was the breaking point or what was the impetus? I mean, we've all seen been frustrated at the television, you know, I could do this. But it's a whole other thing to say, all right, I'm going to take my name, reputation, your well-known personality, and say, hey, this is the direction I want to go.

I've been thinking about this for a long time, Jason. And it's the reason I left sports. I had a great job and a wonderful career and just a wonderful time as a sportscaster and a journalist. But all the while, I was watching what was going on across the country, and particularly here in Minnesota. And it pushed me.

It pushed me to leave my career to start diving into policy and politics and what was going on in the world. And what we've seen here in Minnesota, in particular, with the fraud, with the rioting, with the total failure of the political elites, I just said, I've had enough. And no one else is, you know, these politicians aren't doing the job. I'm going to try to step up and do it. If not now, when?

And so that's really, it was just a confluence of events and a perfect storm.

So Democrats are going to go out there and say, oh, it's been decades, we haven't had a Republican, and it's not going to change now. It's kind of making the opposite case, isn't it? We keep doing the same thing for 20 years, and here's where we're at. But how do you see it? Jason, Indiana University was not supposed to win a national championship in football ever, and they just did.

So I think the timing is ripe. I think that Minnesotans are exhausted by what's been going on. I talk to Minnesotans every day, and they don't want to leave this state, but many of them are considering it fourth and fifth generation Minnesotans, but they don't want to. It wouldn't, you know, listen, we can correct the issues. We can get law and order back here.

We can get the middle class thriving here.

So that's my message to all Minnesotans. And if not now, when? And I fear that if we don't do it here in the midterms, it may not get done.

So we're going to need everyone to help. We need all hands on deck. People can go to michelletafoya.com and learn how to help. How do why the Senate? I mean, there's other races that are going to be out there.

Governor, you know, why the United States Senate? I think it's the fact that I love this country and I love this state, and this marries the two, and it allows me to go to Washington and help the state from there with bigger, broader legislation. I just think that's what I'm best suited to. That's interesting because, and the other thing is, you know, sometimes from afar, you know, look, I. live in Utah and other people live in Ohio and other people live in Florida.

What is it what's different about Minnesota that maybe most people just watching the the chaos that's going on in the news right now? How do Minnesotans see it maybe a little bit differently? There is a lot of chaos here right now, and everyone's seeing it. And Minnesota's are seeing it. They're not blind to this.

There is a large swath of Minnesotans who are unhappy about what's going on in the cities, the things that people are seeing. An even larger swath that is really angry about the fraud, about being ripped off of billions of their dollars, dollars that were supposed to help children that ended up going to criminals.

So people, I think, are a little bit shocked by learning this. They see Tim Wall stepping down. They know he's toxic.

So there is a change about to happen here in Minnesota, and I want to be part of that change. How do people find you? MichelleTafoya.com. And like I said, we can take all the help. We need all the help we can get, and we will take it.

This is going to be a slog. We know it's going to be an uphill climb. As you said, this state has trended blue. We're determined to flip it. And not only for the sake of the state, but for the sake of the country.

So, MichelleTafoya.com, any way you can help, volunteer, chip in. We would love your assistance. Yeah, elections are run by people who step up, ordinary people who decide to show up and say, hey, you know what, I want to be part of the solution as opposed to part of the problem.

So Michelle Tafoya, putting her hat in the ring for the United States Senate from the great state of Minnesota. They could certainly use some help out there. Michelle, thank you so much for joining us on the Brian Killmead Show. We really do appreciate it. And best of luck, keep us up to speed on your run for the United States Senate.

Stay with us. Thank you so much. We'll be right back. I don't know. The talk show that's getting you talking.

You're with Brian Kilmead. Well, almost with Brian Kilmead. I'm Jason Chiefets and filling in with Brian. You know how hard-working he is. He's not really taking a day off, but you know, he's letting me sit in his seat today, and I appreciate that.

So, thank you. There's a lot going on in the world. World affairs, stuff happening domestically and in Congress, that's for sure.

So, we're thrilled to have Congressman Andy Barr. He's joining us. He's from the great state of Kentucky. He's also actually got his hat in the ring for a bigger role. And I want to talk to him about that and all these gyrations that are going on in Congress.

So.

Congressman Indy Barr, thanks so much for joining us on the Brian Kilmead Show. Hey, Jason, great to be with you. It's great to be on the Kill Meet Show, and I hope you're doing well.

Well, thank you. Thank you. I I the first I want to talk about um You right now, the Oversight Committee is meeting to hold the Clintons in contempt. I talked about this a bit a while ago, having been the former chairman of the Oversight Committee. I understand what James Comer is going through, but that committee unanimously.

Uh decided to issue subpoenas on the Clintons to testify about the Uh about the case, and then um all of a sudden now Democrats, it'll be interesting to see how they vote in committee.

Well, it will be. And my good friend and colleague from Kentucky, Jamie Comer, is doing a great job in holding the Clintons accountable. You did a great job when you were there. And look, that's the difference of having Republicans in Congress and President Trump in office is we've got to, once again, a little bit of balance in the way and hold people accountable. Yeah, that's the the whole idea.

I mean, uh the the Epstein files, everybody said, Oh, we want to get them. Um but you know, it takes a chairman, you know, and you know, being in the majority to actually make those things happen. But I these Democrats now they're threatening and saying, oh, they might vote no on holding him in contempt. Hey, we'll we'll join you in a vote To issue the subpoena, but if they defy the subpoena, we won't back you up and support you. I I mean, that that's hypocrisy DC style.

Like, I mean, it's It's what people get so frustrated about with Congress. Yes, it's it's ja a jaw dropping uh double standard, but it's parfor the course for these Democrats who uh throw r rocks at glass houses. And so, you know, w what's good for what's good for them uh now is good for the Clintons. And so this is uh what goes around comes around. Let's switch gears a little bit.

I think you're on the Foreign Affairs Committee, and you have President Trump overseas in Davos making an announcement today that the United States will not use force with Greenland. But give us your perspective on where we're going with Greenland and why it's so important.

Well, look, the President is 100% correct. Greenland has enormous strategic value to both the United States and to our NATO allies. And let's face it, many of our NATO allies who you know it took President Trump's leadership just to get them to parity on the burden sharing for NATO to get them up to 5 percent GDP. Let's face it, a lot of those European nations, including Denmark, cannot defend or protect the strategic assets of Greenland. And Greenland, in terms of our missile defense for not just North America, but also for Europe, it is at a very strategic location.

And so we need American leadership in that part of the world. Look, what a difference a year has made in just one year on national security and foreign policy. President Trump has rebuilt the American military with the leadership of Secretary Hags. We've gotten DEI out. Recruitment retention, readiness, lethality is the priority, not social engineering in the Pentagon, in the Department of War.

President Trump, through his leadership, has been able to obliterate Iran's nuclear program, dismantle Maduro's narco-terrorist regime in Venezuela, defeat Hamas in Gaza, return the hostages to Israel, restore peace through strength and deterrence. And what he's saying to NATO is, look, this is a dangerous world. Russia, China, our adversaries, they threaten us, and we need American leadership, America-first leadership to protect the free world. And I'm so glad that he's doing that. Yeah, he named off a lot of things.

Most presidents won't accomplish that in four or eight years, let alone in his first 365 days in office of his second term. But he also needs help from Congress. And you put your hat in the ring. You want to run for what's going to be an open seat there in the United States Senate. Senate, tell us about that.

Well, look, this seat in Kentucky has not been open in 42 years. Mitch McConnell has been in that seat, obviously, and it's been a privilege of a lifetime to serve with you and serve with other patriots in the Congress and represent the Central Kentucky district in Congress. But it would be an even greater privilege to get a chance to fight for all of Kentucky and Kentuckians in the U.S. Senate and continue to help this president with his agenda and act his agenda. I've been a top ally of this administration in Congress, and I'll be an even stronger ally in the Senate.

I was President Trump's chairman of his 2024 primary campaign in Kentucky for a reason. And we've been fighting together all the way through. But look, there's a lot on the line, and it's about preventing the radical left from taking our country to a place where they're basically they want to commit suicide. They want to open up our borders. They want to allow people into our country who repudiate and reject the founding of our country.

They want to inundate America with drugs. They want to replace religion with the state. They want to expose our kids to these woke ideologies in schools and silence dissent. They want to force biological men into girls' sports. And they want to punish success with higher taxes, more regulations.

Look at what's happening in New York City. They want to replace free enterprise with socialism. And they want to use the fear of climate change to drive an irrational shift to less reliable energy, compromising American competitiveness. This president and I will fight all of that, prevent the suicide of our country, and we're already doing it. We're turning the country around.

And look, competition is a good thing. Primaries are a good thing. And this seat, as I said, hasn't been open in 42 years. The people of Kentucky deserve a competition of ideas. But when other people talk about supporting President Trump and fighting the left, I'm the only candidate in this race who's actually doing it, who's been in the fight day in and day out.

I was in the fight with you, Jason, and we're going to continue to do that.

So it's one thing to talk. It's another thing to have a record of advocacy, a record of conservative Pro-Trump credentials that have a record of effectiveness. And then I would just say one other thing. We owe it to our philosophy to win. We can't afford to lose.

Kentucky is a conservative state, it is a red state, but we have a Democratic governor. And one of the reasons why we have a Democratic governor is one of my opponents lost to the Democrat in a general election. We can't afford to lose the Senate. If we lose Kentucky to a Democrat, then we're going to lose the United States Senate. And it'll be impeachment, impeachment, impeachment every day of our President.

And it will dismantle our progress in blocking the extreme left's efforts to undermine all that we've accomplished. I don't know if you can tell me this story because my recollection is a little bit faint, and maybe I'll get in trouble for asking you this. But it seems to me when Trump forty five came into office, it seemed to me I saw you 'Cause I, you know, I'd see you on a daily basis, right? And you're like Yeah, I just got back from Kentucky. I got to go on Marine One.

I got to go on, like. Do you remember that story where y President had only been in office, it seemed like days. And didn't you go to Kentucky with him? I did. You know, he invited me when he was just first elected.

It was March of 2017. He had just nominated Neil Gorsuch to the Supreme Court, which was just a terrific accomplishment. And we traveled to Louisville for one of his big rallies in Freedom Hall in Louisville. And he invited me to travel back with him to Andrews on Air Force One. And then he further invited me to be with him on Marine One from Andrews back.

And that was when I first got a chance to really get to know the man. I supported him, of course, in the election. And then when we had that midterm election, and it was a bad election for us, it was a blue-wave election. But when a lot of Republicans were running away from the president in swing districts, I said, no, no, no, no, no. This man is saving our country.

I want him to come to my district.

So I invited him to come to my Purple Swing District in Kentucky. And we did a rally there. And one thing I reminded all of my constituents who were there and the Kentuckians who were there who supported. The President was remember the 2016 Republican Convention and remember the saying, the motto that Hillary Clinton had. Remember that?

The motto was: I'm with her. And it was the moment I knew that this man would be the next President of the United States when he said, I have a different motto. And my motto is, I'm for you, the American people. And it still gives me chills because that is exactly who Donald Trump has been. He is.

Pushed back against the establishment, the media, the liberal media, the Washington swamp. And he's always remembered who he's fighting for, and that's the American people. And I'm proud to have stood shoulder to shoulder with the president in fighting for the American people and pushing back against big government and those who would, again, want to commit suicide to our country. You know, I love that story because, you know, a lot of us, you know, Donald Trump had just become the president. Not a lot of people had relationships with the president.

You know, outside of his business world, certainly not in D.C. That was kind of the way he relished it and part of the reason he won, quite frankly. And then all of a sudden I saw you, you're like, yeah, I just got back. I just flew in on Marine One. I'm like.

Dude, nobody gets to do that. That's a whole nother level of but I always thought that was a cool story, and I remember the enthusiasm in which you told it. But Congressman Andy Barr from the great state of Kentucky, wishing nothing but the best in all of your endeavors and certainly the mess that is the United States Congress.

So glad good people like you are willing to be in the fight. And thank you so much for joining us on the Brian Kilmeet Show. Thanks, Jason. Take care. I appreciate it.

Thank you. Stay with us. We'll be right back. From breaking news to big name guests, Brian brings you insight you won't hear anywhere else. You're listening to the Brian Kill Meat Show.

Um He's so busy, he'll make your head spin. It's Brian Killmead. With Iran, they were going to hang 837 people. And I let them be known that, and we let them know that if that happens, that will be a very bad day for them. And they decided not to do it.

So we're just gonna have to see what happens with Iran. Is the military option up President Trump previously talked about Iran. You know, there are things that matter, and then there's things that really matter. And the volatility that's going on in Iran right now is hard, it's difficult, but it's also an opportunity. You know, during the Obama administration, there were opportunities to deal with this, but they weren't taken.

The lack of support. But things have changed now. You have a President Trump who's got a reputation, who does what he says he's going to He does what he says he's going to do. And we also have satellite communications, quite frankly, with Starlink and others that we didn't have before that I think does make a difference. But I want to go to Cut 30.

This is Jack Keene, obviously, really proficient in understanding what's going on in Iran. Cut 31. No, I am expecting military action for sure. Oh, oh, okay. And then there's no doubt about it.

I mean, we're bringing these resources to bear, and it's likely because we had to expand the target set. And why are we expanding it? Because we have to consider What is Iran going to do to retaliation? Our bases are vulnerable. What are they going to do about Israel?

Are they going to attack Israel? Likely. And they're vulnerable. And what are we going to do about their ballistic missiles? Are we going to take them down before they fire them at our bases and also at Israel?

Likely. Are we going to kill leaders? Certainly. Are IRGC members the people that are oppressing the people? Absolutely.

You can understand how things can get serious very, very quickly. This is where the United States military invest billions. Nearly a trillion dollars a year. We've got to make sure that we are the biggest, baddest fighting machine on the face of the planet, able to react in a moment's notice. That's why we have so many communications, so that the president can be in tune at any moment if he needs be.

Let's go to cut 32. More of Jack Keene on this situation. Yes, certainly.

Well, now the president. Definitely wants the leadership of Iran. To go away. And it absolutely is possible based on the evidence we've seen and how different everything is this time. That this regime could collapse.

Maybe not tomorrow, maybe next month, but at least. On a pathway to that happening. And we've never seen that before in the 46 years these guys have been around. And the reality of this is the regime admits that there's 5,000 dead. That alone would be larger than the brutality that Iran has used in previous protests and demonstrations against the regime.

So again, the situation is volatile. There is a desperation there. Inflation is out of control. The price of gas has gone down, which for Russia and Iran makes it untenable in terms of making money. Their proxies to fight and to spread terrorism have been largely torn apart.

The President previously took action to take out their nuclear weapons developments. All of this puts Iran in a very difficult situation. But you have a mass, like tens of millions of people, who do not have an economic future. They are not participants on the world stage in terms of their ability to generate income. And that is their choice.

The President has said, President Trump has said multiple times: look, come join the world. You can have prosperity and freedom and all these things, but you've got to be a responsible country. You can't be out attacking Israel. Israel and Jews and America and everybody else, and want death and destruction in every single place that you go. But if you can be and you want to be an economic player and you want prosperity and you want your people to thrive.

Then, yeah, we would be willing to help you, but you got to help yourself. And that's what Iran has not been able to do because the leadership there has been so suppressive. But I think that people, again, via. Places like Starlink and the outside world have been able to see and understand and recognize that the world is going on without them.

Now inflation is so rampant. The one number I saw was forty percent.

So if you have nothing and then your whatever money you have is worth forty percent. Percent less, yeah, you can see where things get to be very, very desperate. And so people start to rise up, and they know. that the Iranian regime will potentially kill them.

So when you see thousands of people take to the streets, That's a whole nother level of not just frustration. But desperation. And I'm glad to see that the president is so on top of it because, yeah, they're going to pick those people off, they're going to want to kill them, hang them. You know, kill them. And that just can't help.

And they need to know that the world is watching. And quite frankly, Europe and the rest of the world need to do this as well. It can't just be the United States. But to the people of Iran, there is a future, but it's probably with a different set of leadership. I'm Jason Schaffetz.

Stay with us. Want to come. From high atop Fox News headquarters in New York City, always seeking solutions, never sowing division. It's Brian, kill me! Hey, it's actually Jason Chaffetz filling in for Brian and always thrilled to do so.

Brian's one of the hardest-working guys, television and radio. He never takes time off. The guy never sleeps, he's amazing.

Well, I am thrilled to have joining me. To carry the weight of this hour, Carl Rogue joining us. Carl, thanks so much for joining us. You bet hey, if he never takes time off, where is he? I don't know.

He's got to move. He's got to eat. But, you know, he's not like resting. You know, he's not hanging on some beach getting the sky. No, no, no, no.

I think he is laying on some beach somewhere. I think he's lazy at times. I think this is a moment where he just, you know, turns into, you know, party city, you know, holiday time guy. I mean, I think you're giving him too much credit. You know, there's that ancient Chinese proverb, at least that's the way I learned it, which is he who learns to sleep the l who he who earns the reputation for sh waking the earliest sleeps the latest.

And I think that's probably right. I think that you earn that reputation. You can milk on it sometimes, right? There we go. That's right.

And you have to sometimes just to let the little gray cells rejuvenate. When you want to rejuvenate your cells, the Carl Rogue cells, like, what do you do? You like go out and like shoot like Hogs, or what do you do? Like, what do you what's well? I like birds.

I like to go hunting quail, which it's quail season in Texas. And let me tell you, we got a lot of birds in Kennedy County, Texas. But I like to read and like to travel with my wife. Oh, good. All American guy.

Listen to you. Listen how good that.

Well, that's that's 'cause we both share Utah roots. Oh, we we're going to get onto a whole nother a whole nother r route here. But I want to get your take on What's going on in the real world here? Because I never thought I'd spend so much time in my life talking about Greenland. Yeah.

I'm I'm frankly mystified about it. We have a treaty. That allows us to put whatever military facilities we want wherever we want in Greenland. And we've had it since nineteen fifty one with a precursor to that, another agreement that stretches back to the early nineteen forties. and why the President insists upon threatening to seize Greenland.

I saw he I welcomed him walking it back today, but he didn't need to do that. He if he's concerned about it, and look, missile defense is going to require facilities in places like Alaska and Greenland and Northern Canada. and the Baltic or excuse me, the Nordic countries and You know, the president's got the authority to do that, so I'm mystified. And if he wants to get into, you know, get a deal on rare earth minerals or mining, he could easily say, look, I want to put a basis here and there and here. And are you open to cutting a commercial deal with us where American companies would invest and then see if American companies want to invest?

I'm not certain they will because we have rare earths in the United States that are in a lot less hostile parts of the world. I mean, by hostile, I mean weather. And we can develop those. And I suspect most American companies would say we've got a lot of other places both in the United States and elsewhere in the Western world where we can develop these rare earth minerals without having to deal with the brutal conditions of Greenland. Yeah, I heard the president say, and I actually thought it was pretty smart.

It's like, you know, yeah, there aren't really rare earths, but there's. The ability to process them, it makes it very difficult. And in Greenland, you know, you got a couple of miles of ice there. I mean, it's one big sheet of ice.

So, you know.

Well, in transporting them out of Greenland, Greenland has got a significant ice pack among most of its coastline for much of the year. And, you know, in northern Nevada, or you know, where they're now talking about doing a major development, you know, you can get those things refined and put them into the commercial supply chain a lot easier than you could do it if it's in northern Greenland. Have you ever been to Greenland? No, but here's the deal. Whenever I go to Europe, I love flying over Greenland because I want to go to Iceland and Greenland because what spectacular country.

I mean, you know, just when you fly over it, and it's mile after mile of these, you know, glaciers and, you know, ice fields, and it just looks spectacular. And look, I'm Norwegian, so we're drawn to that kind of thing. Yeah, I want to go experience the northern lights in a big, big way.

So that's still on my bucket list as well. Let me shift over to Iran. In the previous hour, we played some clips from General Jack Keene. The President has talked about this. It's a very volatile situation.

It seems like the leadership is spinning out of control. You've got people marching in the streets. You've got rampant inflation. And, you know, at least General Keene believes there's probably going to have to be some kinetic action that's going to happen here because the Iranians may just very well lash out.

Well, they already are lashing out at their population. I mean, talk about brutal. I mean, it's hard to get information out of there, but it's clear that large numbers of people have been basically executed, shot down on site, and that these peaceful protests have been violently. Uh, you know, the response from the government has been violent and extreme.

So you're right. I mean, at the end of the day, The Ayatollah may have Religious authority, but the economy has gone to hell. And people are, here's a country that was once wealthy and prosperous, and where I think the number is 40% live in extreme poverty, and 80% are now thought to be living in poverty. And they're running out of water because they spent too much money fomenting terrorism around the world and not enough on basic infrastructure.

So the currency is essentially worthless. I mean, on international trade, trading platforms, you can't buy, you know, you can buy it for zero. I mean, it has no value outside of the country itself. And, you know, that's not a place where you can keep people held down for long when literally the basics of life are being made unavailable to them. Yeah, and that's the thing.

You know, you heard this report, you know, they're trying to give people $7 for the month. That ain't obviously going to cut it.

So it'll be fascinating. Mm. Let's shift gears again here. I just. I am still fundamentally Carl Really struggling to understand democratic messaging on ice.

I just to simultaneously say ice is. Yeah. I heard Senator Warner, who is a more serious Democratic player than most. But he simultaneously says, you know, he doesn't like what Zai's doing, they're terrible, because they're not cooperating. And, like, how do you get away with saying, well, because they're not cooperating?

Cooperating has been, you know, sanctuary cities, counties, and states. Talk about non-cooperation. It would be a lot easier to have ICE work with the city, state, or county than it would to repel them and say, get out of here. We don't want you here. Yeah, yeah, when the mayor of Minneapolis stands up and uses an obscenity to tell ICE what to do, it ain't a good picture for the Democratic Party.

This is mystifying to me, too. I mean, look, I understand they are concerned about ICE wandering through the streets of their cities and picking up hapless individuals who crossed the border illegally, yes, but have kept their nose clean. It was a political winner for the president to be focused on violent criminals. And it's a political loser for the Democrats to seem like they are defending those people. What they ought to be saying, in my opinion, is we're going to work with ICE and identify the violent criminals who are in our city, who are here illegally, and together we're going to get them out of our community so that our communities are safe.

And oh, incidentally, these roundups and, you know, let's cooperate with each other, federal government. And please don't be showing up at the Home Depot, getting some poor hapless guy who's. Desperate to put food on the table and as willing to work as they did in Los Angeles, they rounded up people at Home Depots. The Democrats could strike the balance here that would help them with their constituents, but on the other hand, would not damage them in the public's mind. Because remember, this election this fall in the critical contest is not going to be settled by which party simply does a better job of getting out its base.

In these sort of purple districts and states, the winner is going to be the person who wins the independence. And both parties, particularly the Democratic Party right now, seems to be completely unconcerned with doing anything that gets them an additional vote. Let's just do things that please the hardliners on the left of our party, or in the Republican case, the hardliners on the right of the party, and forget about the people whose opinions are going to actually sway the election one way or the other.

So on the left, they bring in these protesters to chant and blow whistles. That's got to get really old, really fast.

Well, think about it. They had one lunatic in Minneapolis show up in a church and make a video of himself interrupting a religious service. People came together. Once you walk through that door, you're not a Republican or a Democrat, a liberal or a conservative. You're a Christian, and you're there to pay homage to our Lord and to worship him.

And there's this lunatic wandering through that sanctuary, making a video of himself. a screaming at people. And what additional vote did the left win for itself in that moment? Not a single one. I heard Tom Homan say: you know how many ICE officers it takes to arrest somebody who's already in jail, who's maybe wanted for some heinous crime?

It takes one. But if you let him out the back door... And then we got to go chase them down. It could take 30.

So if you want less ICE officers, cooperate with us. Yeah, yeah.

Well, and look, I simply don't understand. Look, that individual who's incarcerated violated the laws of your state. And it did something bad to people who are your constituents and who are citizens of your state. And why in the heck are you not willing to say to ICE, we got one of the bad people you're looking for-a drug dealer, a human trafficker, a sexual offender, a robber, a thief, a violent person, and get them the heck out of our community. I just don't get it.

That's a winner. That's the kind of thing that causes people to say, well, you know what? I may be liberal, I may be conservative, I may be moderate, but that's just downright common sense. Bad actors, get them out of here. Last subject here, the economy.

I mean, you've talked about this forever. People are going to vote based on the economy, how they're feeling. The President has some pretty ambitious plans to drive down interest rates. Housing's an issue, young people and jobs. But talk to me about artificial intelligence, because I think artificial intelligence, while it can do a lot of really good, cool, interesting things, I think it's scaring the living daylights out of people.

They don't know what jobs to invest in. They don't know what skill sets they need. Not everybody's going to follow Mike Rowe and go be a plumber or do some of the jobs that he's 100% right on. But for a young 18, 19-year-old trying to figure out where to major in, there's a lot of confusion out there. Oh, yeah, no, no doubt about it.

And don't look to me for good answers on this. I mean, I'm trying to get my hands around this, but it is clear that artificial intelligence is going to affect white-collar workers. I thought it was very interesting that a couple of the leaders of the AI revolution have said this thing is going to have huge economic impact, and the people who are going to be adversely affected are, in essence, white-collar workers, and the people who are going to benefit are going to be the people who are. you know, the you know, the electricians and the HVAC expert and blah, blah, blah. Look, this is sort of semi-personal, but we have we have a little ranch and we have a ranch foreman.

And we you know, my wife's when my wife's mother died, we set up a little scholarship fund to honor Kay. And as a result, we're sending the grandson of our ranch foreman, we're sending him through through Texas State Technical College. He's becoming a welder. Nice. He's 19 years old, about ready to turn 20, and he will graduate.

He's just graduated, in fact, with his degree in welding, and his starting salary is going to be somewhere between $90,000 and $100,000 a year. He's 20 years old, and he has zero college debt. What kind of a life can that kid look forward to? And if he goes to the Permian Basin or goes to the Bakken in North Dakota, he can make even more. And look, that's the way that it's, you know, that's the way our economy is moving.

And so the question is: are we providing opportunities for people who say, you know what, I'm not going to go to college and become an English lint major, but I want to have a good career. We have a great friend, a great couple here in Austin who are friends. Their son is learning to be an electrician. And it's amazing what kind of opportunities he's going to have. And So you're right.

This is going to be a big revolution. We don't know exactly how it's going to play out, but they're going to be winners and they're going to be losers, and we've got to be careful. I saw one speech today at Davos where a guy in AI said we don't want to have a society and we might end up with a society like in Silicon Valley where everybody there is living high on the hog and people who are not part of the AI revolution are not. Yeah. I think it's politically, it's going to be fascinating to see.

Like I said, it can do a lot of good. It's going to change the world of medicine and everything else. But boy, it has some implications politically because I think a lot of people are confused and scared by it, whether they're an older generation or a younger generation that just doesn't know how am I going to live the American dream if AI is going to do everything for me. Carl Rove, the one and only, thank you so much for joining us on the Brian Killmeat show. Really do appreciate it.

Thank you, Jason. Thanks, and all the best to you and yours, and happy new year. Let's go through quail season? Go shoot some quail. That would be great.

I will in two weeks. All right. Thanks. Carl Rove. We'll be right back.

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I want more babies in the United States of America. I want more happy children in our country. And I want. And I want beautiful young men and women who are eager to welcome them into the world and eager to raise them.

Well, that was the Vice President J. D. Vance earlier this month. Guess what? He's doing his he's pulling his own weight, doing what he's supposed to be doing.

If he's going to be preaching, he's actually living it. The Vice President and his wife, Usha, announcing that they are going to have another baby. They're expecting a baby. It's pretty big. You're the Vice President of the United States.

You've been in office for one year, and now you're Your wife is pregnant and you're going to have another baby. Oh my goodness. There's a lot on the plate for the vice president, but congratulations to them. Love to see that kind of thing happen. He is right.

We got a population issue. But good to see a good family. That story, the Vance family story, what he did, how he did it, his growing up is just an absolute inspiration. He probably knew a little bit something when he gave those comments just a few weeks ago in January. And then today or yesterday it was announced that the Vice President and his wife are pregnant, wishing nothing but the best.

It's so good to see. In a world that's full of all kinds of negative stories and evil stories and all these bad and all that.

Well, guess what? When we get back from the break here, we're going to have somebody who knows a lot about, you know, having kids. I think they have nine. Rachel Campos Duffy from Fox and Friends. She's going to be joining.

Lots to talk about, not just those babies, but talking about world affairs and whatnot. Stay with us. There's more to come on the Brian Kill Me Show. I'm Jason Chavitz, filling in for Brian. We'll be right back.

Stay with us. From his mouth to your ears, it's Brian Gilmead. Actually, it's Jason Chaffetz filling in for Brian and thrilled to do so. Very kind of him to do that. And also, really glad to have joining me on the phone, Rachel Campos Duffy.

Rachel, thanks so much for joining us. Hey, Jason, so gracious to hear from you and happy new year. Yeah, happy new year. We were just bragging on the idea that J.D. Vance is kicking off the new year.

He just announced that he and his wife are having another baby. Yeah, and it's so crazy. Like, I don't know if you've been watching the socials here, but the lefty feminists have come out and said that the fact that there are three administration pregnancy announcements, I know one of them is Carolyn Levitt, I don't know who the other one is, but Usha Vance included. They said it is part of a coordinated propaganda scheme, which is absolutely insane that this is how these miserable leftist feminists think about life, right? Like, clearly, they're losing their minds.

Yeah, it's a propaganda scheme to have a baby and bring a baby into the world, but that's how they see it. Yeah, because it's going to affect the election 18 years from now. It's going to be amazing how the Republicans work. Democrats just let them, you know, open up the borders. Republicans have babies.

It's amazing. What a propaganda scheme. It's so true. It's so true. By the way, what they need to do is go look at the happiness polls that come out of the University of Chicago.

They've been coming out for over a decade, and consistently, the happiest demographic. In all of America, is conservative married women with children.

So maybe that's why they're having the babies. Yeah, and maybe there's a little bit more like, oh, we're in love and we. I mean, there are other factors. There are other things that come into this. Yeah, maybe Junior needs, you know, wants a baby sister.

You know, there could be lots of things that.

Well, you know, it also wasn't very long ago that the media was, you know, falling over themselves, speculating that Usha and JD were, you know, not, you know, getting going on the path to divorce.

Well, she didn't have her ring on one day. You know, oh my gosh. Yeah, she does. I know, you know what? I have a, I have a, my, my ring, my wedding ring is platinum.

And if I put on just a little weight, Jason, it gets a little tight and it irritates my finger. And so I have to take it off too.

So there's re and then I and then I've been I put it back on. But somebody might I've had a couple people write me online on Twitter saying, Rachel's not wearing your wedding ring. And it's like, yeah, I just put on a couple pounds here. And it's a little tight.

Well, and I like I saw Sean. You know, I've known Sean, your husband, the Secretary of Transportation, but he's lost weight along the way.

Well, I lost some weight too. And my ring started falling off. I wish I had your problem, Jason.

So it was like, Julie, I love this ring. I just if I wear it, it's gonna fall off. It's gonna fall off in the sink, yeah. Especially in the cold weather because, you know, it gets that much anyway. We've got some other big issues of the day to deal with.

You, I'm sure, saw the comments and of the President in Davos, in Switzerland. Give us your top line take on what's going on there.

Well, daddy's home, right, Jason? Daddy's home. It seemed like nothing started until he got there, right? I mean, like, everyone was waiting. It was such a huge difference from, you know, the Joe Biden years where it was like he was such an afterthought.

And suddenly everything hinges on what is Trump going to do. I was filling in for Ainsley this morning on Fox and Friends, and we had Kellyanne Conway, who has been doing some work on the Davos trip with President Trump and helping out with different side meetings and so forth. And she said that when she walked from her hotel towards the, you know, the Davos complex, there were these different pop-up tents for different issues. And it was like one of them was like climate. The other one was like gender equality.

And she's like, they're empty. No one's there. No one's talking about all these wokey Davos issues. Of climate and gender equality and trans. It's over.

President Trump is serious. We're finally talking about serious issues. And in this case, we're talking about national security, which is why Greenland is coming up, economic security and military security. We're talking about national sovereignty. And so many of those treaties and climate agendas that they wanted America to sign up for, which President Trump has now like taken us out of 68 of them or something like that.

All of that was about constraining American sovereignty. The Europeans have always, especially the English, have always been threatened by the fact that we're so dominant. And they have tried to restrain our sovereignty, stop us from doing what we want to do, putting America first by tying us into these agreements. And now we're out of those agreements and we're having real conversations about how each country can put their own nation first and work on repatriating their companies back to their own. Their own soil.

And as you heard Howard Luttnick say before President Trump arrived in a very good, very, very powerful remarks, he said, globalism hasn't worked for the Western for the Western world. It certainly hasn't worked for America. And President Trump and his team are redoing this. We're getting out of these agreements and we're putting America first. Yeah, this whole concept of globalism, it it was so front and center with Obama.

It was with Joe Biden. I mean, I do. It was embarrassing when President Biden would show up and he could barely get through the photo op and where to stand and how to do it. I mean, it was embarrassing. And so you're right.

Donald Trump is showing that there is but one superpower in the world, and it is the United States of America. It is us. And it was amazing. Also, Jason, part of that whole whole thing was was migration. And they were pressuring us Through all their NGOs and all their rhetoric and using the media and fake compassion to say that Europe opened up their borders and we had to do the same.

President Trump came in the very first thing he did, shut down the border. We have zero crossing at our border. We're taking criminal, illegal aliens out of our country, and we just don't care if some NGO or the World Economic Forum thinks we're being mean. We're going to do what's right for us. And I think a lot of Europeans are looking at what we did and they're saying, hey, why aren't our guys doing that for us?

Because they have a horrible problem. They can't even keep their women safe in Northern Europe.

So, you know, with so many rapes and things going on.

So I think that President Trump is setting a really good example across the board. And people, they're going to start, and the Europeans are starting to feel pressure from their own citizens to get with the program. I thought it was also interesting that one of the most Senior people there. I can't remember this person's title. I think it was the person who was in charge of the World Economic Forum saying, Yeah, you know what?

We actually really do need to do more to push back on Russia and China and Greenland. That the president is right on this issue.

Now, the president announced that he wasn't going to use military force to take over Greenland. I don't know that that was necessarily ever going to happen, but it's Donald Trump negotiating and making a point and driving home an issue that everybody's heads explode. You still have never figured out Donald Trump. He's always negotiating, always. The negotiation started before he got there.

And you know what, this is the thing that, too, I told a neighbor of ours who was concerned about this, and I said, you know what? Think about where we were four weeks ago. And now think about where we are today. And if you're rooting for the United States of America, We're better, stronger, And now The Danes have committed billions of dollars in security protocols that they didn't have four weeks ago.

So congratulations, Donald Trump. Totally. By the way, they're so trying to rewrite their own history with Greenland. Denmark had forced sterilization for the natives in Greenland. And now they're, I think just today, they're doing some apology ceremony for all the forced.

Now they're thinking about apologizing for the forced sterilizations that they did all the way up until the 90s they were doing it.

So there's that. But of course, all of this, Jason, to me, is just part of President Trump reorienting our foreign policy and our economic policy towards our own hemisphere. I mean, you see what's happening in Latin America.

Well, Greenland is part of our hemisphere. And you brought up NATO. I mean, we're paying. the vast majority of the expenses to defend Europe from what? From Russia, right?

Well, guess what? Greenland makes Europe and us all vulnerable to Russia and even more troubling, China.

So how is it that on the one hand, you want to take our money to protect you from NATO, but then now we're the aggressors and the bullies as we try to protect the hemisphere from Russia and China, from the North, from the Arctic, from Greenland? It doesn't make any sense. And so they should be thanking us. What they've said, the last thing I've heard them say is like, oh, yeah, okay, fine. You can protect Greenland, but we get to take all the profits out of Greenland.

And you know, that's not going to fly with Trump, Jason. He's done paying for their security, and then we get nothing out of it. Let's transition a little bit here because you know Venezuela well. You've got some incredible interviews and insights there.

Now that the dust has settled just a little bit, there's still a lot of activity that maybe is happening behind the scenes. Where do you see this going?

Well, I think some breaking news happened on Fox and Friends when we talked to Kelly Ann. She said there was a possibility that President Trump would speak with Delceie Rodriguez, the vice president to Maduro, who is now the interim president of Venezuela. It's kind of a big deal. It's really showing that she is playing ball. And that is both good in terms of stabilizing Venezuela so it doesn't devolve into something chaotic.

But at the same time, I think the Trump administration is trying to strike, and it's not easy, they've got to strike a really delicate balance between working with her And her working with us and stabilizing things, and at the same time, it not getting too cozy because obviously the right thing to do is to as soon as possible, have an election and allow the democratically elected person with no more election fraud be the person to lead that nation. And so that is a very delicate balance because along with all of that are the security concerns that happened because Maduro was in charge and basically allowing Venezuela to become a hub. and a place for China and Iran to operate in our hemisphere. And then also, you know, there's no question that there are massive oil and rare earths and gold deposits in Venezuela. And President Trump, again, says, if we're going to develop those things, and they stole it from us once before, we're going to make sure the system is set up for us to make these investments and for America.

And the entire hemisphere and Venezuela included to benefit from it. But we're not going to allow the Chinese to take over this hemisphere as they have been doing.

So I just think this reorientation is sort of the Don Roe doctrine. Our priority is our hemisphere, not Europe, not the Middle East. It's right here in our backyard, and we will be in charge, not China. And I think part of the message needs to be here is to the world as well as our neighbors. You know, the Chinese and Russians is the common denominator.

How many times do we have to talk about Venezuela or Or Greenland, or wherever it is, you got this Cuba. You keep talking about the same bad actors, and yet they're kind of, huh, oh hum. They d they just, you know, they don't even react to it. The United States, we're the good guys. We're trying to it's Donald Trump is the the president of peace.

They're trying to give peace and freedom and liberties, and yet they just kind of excuse or dismiss.

Well, that's just China, that's just Russia.

Well, did you hear Macron? Actually, his response. To President Trump saying you got to work with us, we got to make this happen. He said, Well, I'm going to, we're going to work with the Chinese and not you guys. President Trump's looking at this like, oh, yeah, okay, big guy, we're going to put a 200% tariff on your wines.

What he's done, Jason, is so smart from the beginning because he is somebody who understands the art of negotiation, is he has understood that America has the economic leverage. Every country has to. Do business with us. If we don't do business with them, yeah, it'll hurt us a little, but it's not detrimental, it's not existential. It is existential for Europe and other and Asia to have access to our markets.

And that's how he's leveraged all these tariffs and our position in terms of national security. He's leveraged it all on that understanding that no other President before him has truly grasped.

Well, we we've had a vacuum of leadership for so long. And again, I just think, oh my gosh, can you imagine if that was Kamala Harris walking into Davos? Like, what a joke that would be. By the way, I don't have it right in front of me, but if you all want to look up a funny quote, go look at Secretary Besant and what he said about Gavin Newsome. That was one of the better takedowns I've heard in a long time.

Jason, I lost you for just a second there. What did you just say? All you got to do is look up a quote from Secretary Bessant, and you will find one of the better takedowns of Gavin Newsom. It's really funny. I'll let everybody at home go search that one out, too.

Rachel, Campos, Duffy, thank you so much for joining us on Kill Mead Radio. Really do appreciate it. Thanks for joining us. I love you, Jason. Always good to chat with you.

Okay, take care. We'll be right back. From breaking news to big name guests, Brian brings you insight you won't hear anywhere else. You're listening to the Brian Kill Meat Show. Okay.

A talk show that's real. This is the Brian Kill Me Show. I used to get nominated for everything, and then the wokeness came in, and then I was considered a conservative, which is ridiculous.

So I was what I call soft-cancelled. Yeah. Where you don't, you know.

Well, I'm a Bill Clinton liberal, which is from the 90s, which is now called a Nazi. Me too. A Nazi superpower. Exactly. Right.

Hero White Supremacist. That's Bill Maher, David Spade, and the great Dana Carvey. I thought it was actually an interesting banter: how they take particular positions, and then suddenly the world changes from underneath them. And I was actually having this conversation with somebody else, which I thought was interesting. It's like.

You know, um conservative Um in terms of conservatives in terms of arts and entertainment. You know where they dominate? Comedy. They dominate in comedy. And you know what?

That's very forward-thinking. It's very. Reflective of where the country is. You think of Greg Guttfeld. Think of people like Nate Bargazzi.

You think of others that are conservative more in their nature and some of the others that are a little bit more, you know, a little more risque, a little bit more out there a little bit. But if you think about it, there's a reason why Greg Guttfeld is just thriving and others are kind of struggling to figure out where in the world they are. And um you know some of these old liberal you know folks that just Use the same old tired tropes time and time again. They're just not that popular anymore because, well, they're just not as funny anymore. That's the way it is.

I'm still a big fan of David Svade, Dana Carvey. I still think they're funny. And Bill Meyer has his moments as well. Thanks so much for joining us on the Brian Kill Me Show. I'm Jason Chaffetz.

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