Dem senator calls for investigation into Hegseth over Venezuela drug boat strikes

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So glad you're there. It's the Brian Kill Me Joe coming your direction. A lot going on today. Plus, we're going to have that massive that usually lasts for hours. I'm talking about the president's cabinet meeting.

Remember, there were four for Joe Biden, and he had to have name tags and he had to have questions written out. He was basically ignored in them before what we could see with the reporting. Four in four years, President San is ninth in his tenth month. Senator John Cornyn is going to be with us this hour. Lieutenant Colonel Allen West is going to be here this hour.

A lot of Texas. By the way, Galusta Little Note. Congressman Issa, who might be gerrymandered out of his district in San Diego, which is ridiculous if it if the Gavin Newsom move is held up, they got to make it more Democratic. I don't know why he doesn't think he can win there. He's so popular in California, even as a Republican.

He might move to Dallas. And run in there.

So think about that. A congressman in Texas. Who Who, um Lost an election when he was gerrymandered out, then went and took another district, which was a neighboring district over in California, so he came back. And now he might be going to Texas.

Well, it looks like Indiana will rule that they're going to gerrymander a couple of seats out. That's going to help the president, in theory, the Republican legislature. But before we get to all that, let's get to the big three. Number three. When people want to surrender, you don't kill them.

And they have to pose an imminent threat. It's hard to believe that two people on a raft trying to survive would pose an imminent threat. That is Congressman Don Bacon, a former officer in the military who doesn't like Trump.

So go get a Republican who doesn't like Trump on an issue that could be bad for Trump, but I don't really think so. I'll explain. Venezuela, Maduro, has got to go. As both sides are asking the Trump team what the goal is, while the Dems focus on drug boat bombings, we look at the stakes. Number two.

Are we going to just continue to do the status quo we're doing right now? I don't think that's the answer, because that doesn't seem to persuade Putin to stop the war. I think what we need to do is significantly increase military pressure.

So that is General Jack Keen, your move Moscow. Trump team flies to Russia. They're engaged right now with Vladimir Putin. We think it's going to be directly. I'm talking about Jared Kushner, and I'm talking about Steve Witkoff.

The key to peace, make Putin's walk away, which I think is going to happen, make it costly, and I'll explain. Number one. And I can say, having had the privilege of representing Tennessee in years past, I want to tell you that I have never seen. The political tides shift as far and as fast as we're seeing them move in this election. All right, that is Al Gore.

He's getting excited in Tennessee, a state that he lost against George W. Bush, because Afton Bain from Congress wants to be the Democrat to represent Tennessee in a bright red district. This special election is going to be big for both parties. If it's a single-digit win for the Republican, it'll be a shot across the bow for all Republicans looking at the midterm election because Matt Van Epps is an excellent candidate on paper. He's successful in business, a guy that fought in the infantry, fought and saw action, still in the National Guard, endorsed by President Trump, a state, excuse me, a district.

The president won by 24 points. It's got to be a big win. And if it's not, that's a message for Republicans.

Now, I know about how the midterms always go against the party in power, but it's saying that the president's message and his successes are not being felt by the masses if the economy and affordability is the number one issue. And if it is, they're trying to say, hey, the president says he's going to turn on the economy. Why hasn't he yet?

Well, some good news came across today for the first time in four and a half years. Gas is at $3 and under. In 31 states, it's around $2.80. Turns out all those states are red states without the huge taxes on fossil fuels, which they pride themselves in.

So if affordability matters, utility bills are going to matter. But utility bills are being jacked up by AI. I'm just shocked at this. You really have to think about it, because as AI grows and data centers flourish, it's good news for jobs. It's good news for your city, whether it's in New Orleans or Baton Rouge.

But it also jacks up the need for energy and it jacks up the price of electricity. The other thing, we have a big push for electricity in this country, they say it's cleaner. Not much for nukes. But Tennessee is, by the way, they were the first to put in these mini nuclear plants, and they're already successful. But outside Tennessee, let's say.

So if you go for all electricity, it really costs more money. But oil and gas, natural gas is significantly less.

So as we look at the economy and how it affects me and you, most people say we all have phone bills, Yeah, now it's cell phone bills. We all have utility bills. You all have taxes. Mortgage rates.

So these are some of the commonalities. But the Consumer Energy Alliance did an analysis finding homeowners with homes heated by electricity. will pay cumulatively four billion more in expenses while those homes with natural gas or propane will save about two billion. Very rarely do we get a house and think I'm going to go switch from gas to oil, especially if you're buying the house and you're lucky to make the down payment.

So do you see what's going on here? A lot of people say, wow, look at my energy bills, the utility costs. I guess I'll blame Trump, the party in power. I'm not saying cry tears for the President, but some things he has nothing to do with. The data centers Have to go in, and I'm going to talk to Doug Bergen about this.

I already called his office. He's in charge of interior as well as got a portfolio of energy, like Chris Wright. Say, if you're going to put a data center in a state, you've got to be responsible for modernizing the grid. or coming up with your different power stations. Holiday spending so far looks good.

Experts predict one trillion in spending this holiday season. Buy now pay later loans are more popular than ever. People are in a generous mood.

So far, Gen Zers are the only bracket that really isn't spending that much. Baby boomers. just slightly down. Gen X, slightly up. Millennials, just a little bit down.

Gen Z significantly down. eight hundred fifty million spent so far as opposed to one point two million $850 million so far as opposed to 850,000, I should say, as opposed to 1.2 million.

So that's what's going on with the local economy. But when it comes to the special election, that's what Democrats are running on.

Now, I don't want to tell every Democrat or voters out there what to do. You make your own judgment. But to me, if you're in Tennessee, it's because you like conservative, the conservative politics that brings to the table, right? And if you like conservative politics, it comes to the table, at least you could say that big, beautiful bill, that's the Trump economic plan. What they're going to do on subsidies, that's the Trump economic plan.

But when Democrats talk about an economic plan, they just say Republicans aren't making America more affordable.

Well, the one who jacked up the rates, who spent like drunken sailors, was the previous administration. And their plan is what? Up taxes on rich people, the most successful in our country? They're going to move to other states. There's going to be no answer for that.

So that's why I think that if Tennesseans are thinking clearly, they will not be going for Afton Bain. who is absolutely Way to the left. She's the left of most of the squad. She thinks men can have babies. She protested ICE personally.

She saluted those who agree that you should be able to burn a police station down. She doesn't like country music and she wants to represent Nashville. Will that be enough? She's known by the President as the Uh AOC of Tennessee. And guess who went to bat for it yesterday?

AOC, cut five. I know that with all of the organizing that you all are doing on the ground. The very fact that this race is in play is showing that we are in a time where anything can happen and that miracles can happen, including in Tennessee, when we have with enough elbow grease and hard work I guess we're enough said. We know what she's going to say, and we don't know any it's good to hear the word term elbow grease again. Speaker Mike Johnson, he knows that they're pouring money into that this race.

He knows he can't lose this seat. Cut it. The problem is when you have a deep red district, a lot of the people take for granted that the Republican or the Conservative is going to win. And so this is in the middle of a holiday. A lot of people aren't even really aware this is on the ballot.

So we're here. President Trump called into our rally this morning. He'll be doing a teller rally with Matt and I this evening to raise awareness to get out the vote to make sure that the people in Tennessee and Nashville and the 14 surrounding counties understand they better get out and vote. This is a radical leftist on the ballot.

Okay, and I think Speaker Johnson can't lose another seat. And I just hate Democrats and Republicans. If you run for Congress, unless you have a family emergency or a health concern, can you finish out your two-year term? I mean, the biggest complaint up until recently has been we always are campaigning because we have a two year seat.

So as soon as you win it, you got to go make sure you keep it. You got to go out and campaign for the two year seat.

Now we can't even get people to serve their two years. Mark Green got a great offer, so he has to leave right away. I mean, you know there's only a five-seat advantage. Can you do anything for the team? Plus, you know, he's somebody who won by 24 points, a pretty secure seat.

He thinks if I leave, it's not going to be a problem. But you know, when a president in his second term on the midterms, it's always going to be a challenge. All right, talk about a challenge. That's what we're talking about when it comes to Venezuela. The quick thing to happen, and the thing that's got to happen is Maduro's got to just pick up and leave.

There was a conversation a few days ago in the Oval Office, and that's what the president let him know, says you can get your family, you can leave, here's a few options for you. I'm sure the president could. China notices China and Russia are not going to defend him. Iran hasn't done anything either. This guy's got to go.

So hopefully he goes. If not, we can't keep all of our firepower in the region for that long or this much for that long. And if he survives, he's going to be more powerful than ever. He's going to stare down the American naval arsenal. That's not going to make any sense.

So There's got to be a move. There's got to be a move in this area. But everybody's focusing on instead of pushing out a communist regime in our hemisphere that Barack Obama let take shape. That Joe Biden decided to deal with for oil and bring Chevron back in there. They're focusing on did they do a double-tap hit on one of the drug boats?

Hmm, that's interesting.

So I didn't know this Geneva war rules of war. Say that if you hit him once and there are survivors, you can't go back and finish them off. Really?

Okay. It's interesting.

Well, it seems humane, but it seems weird. Because you're showing an intent to kill, that's allowed. But if you don't kill, you gotta save. You get one shot at it. I don't know who came up with this rule.

But I looked back and I just said, wait, who else does things like this? Let me see. Oh, Barack Obama. What did he do? He killed terrorists, between 560 and 585 terrorists through drone strikes.

And I think these are mostly drone strikes. I don't think any of them are F-16s, F-33s. All right? Did he ever do a double tap? I asked.

So he did some research. Turns out he did it a lot. Because you can only be so precise. Drones are good, people move, but they're not perfect, and people move different directions.

So that terrorist might survive.

So, Amnesty International did a study in 2013. They examined 28 strikes in North Waziristan of Pakistan. In 2011, they identified at least six double taps. For Barack Obama killing 40 civilians. Wow.

Barack Obama? Human Rights Watch 2013, Yemen reported they analyzed six strikes between 2009 and 2013 where they had to go back and do double taps again to. Terminate. target. Human Rights Watch didn't like that.

Amnesty International was unhappy about that. Then Stanford and NYU did a. Study. Living under drones. They found a significant evidence of repeated double-tap use in Pakistan based on interviews with 130 witnesses and victims.

Can you please show me where Senator Mark Kelly expressed outrage? Can you show me where Congressman Raskin Was beside himself when, for eight years, Barack Obama was blowing up terrorists. You didn't hear me complain because I'm for it. And if you want to go back and finish off that terrorist, I'm even more for it. The Geneva Conventions come out and says.

Can't do that. Viviga Ventiens says denying quarter or aid to the wounded Constitutes a war crime. All right. How I feel Geneva Conventions drafted by smart people, I think, in the late 40s or 50s, after World War II.

So Should we also Indite. Barack Obama. Along with assuming That This was okayed. or urged or ordered by Pete Hakeseth.

Now the problem with going after Pete Hagseth here is that the New York Times did a story to counter the Washington Post story or to evolve it. And they found out five separate people said Pete never gave the order. Really?

Ooh, this kind of stinks, doesn't it? Turns out an admiral gave that order. An admiral that Pete Hagseth praised. He said, Let's make one thing pretty clear. Crystal clear.

Admiral Mitch Bradley is an American hero, a true professional, and has my 100% support. I stand by him and the combat decision he has made. Go do your investigation. Right. Let's make sure, I guess, that Admiral Mitch Bradley.

Pays the price. And I'm being sarcastic. Of course I don't think that. But Senator Mark Kelly does. Who was just on Jimmy Kimmel because he's a laugh a minute.

Cut sixteen. There needs to be an investigation. We need to pull some of these members. Of DOD in the military into the Armed Services committees in the House and the Senate. You know, that's what the White House is saying.

I hope what has been reported. Is not accurate. And I'm concerned. That If there were, in fact, as reported, you know, survivors. clinging to a damaged vessel.

that that could be over a line.

Okay. I hope it's not the case. Really?

So I'm sure that Mark Kelly, in his he says, over 30 missions. Killed everybody he should on the first shot. I'm sure he never was asked to go back and finish him off. What if Salimani? who has killed over five hundred Americans, directly, indirectly.

In IEDs or or the EFPs, which are IEDs on steroids. Uh what if we took a shot at him when he landed in Iraq and we missed? And we see him walking outside the Vehicle and he's seeing what's left of his Jeep, but he's alive. You think we're not going back and finishing him off? We're finishing him off.

How do I know? Because the Secretary of State at that time is Mike Pompeo. And he told me that today. This is a joke. This is the Epstein files.

This is the Russia hoax. This is the impeachment of the Ukrainian investigation. This is a distraction. The president is about to change the shape. Of the Western Hemisphere and finally enforce the Monroe Doctrine.

I'm going to come back in a second, squeeze in some calls, and then welcome in Lieutenant Colonel Alan West on this, who knows all about ethics. And he might buck method. He might say I'm wrong on this. I have no problem with double taps. If you lay, if that target's got to go, take as many shots as you want.

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Okay. The more you listen, the more you'll know it's Brian Killmead. When I heard this. secretaries say that they're going to pause immigration from third world countries. I mean, I take that as a message that they don't want brown people.

Coming to the United States. And I find that disturbing. Really?

Senator Mark Kelly doesn't like brown people, third world countries. That includes the stands, by the way. We want to evaluate why these people are coming here, where they're coming from in these war-torn areas, and if they could possibly have trouble blending into our country, our communities, our culture. That to me makes total sense. You know, I was talking to...

Here's Si'ali today, who was brought up Muslim and forced marriages, able to escape, become a Christian, Myron Neil Ferguson, famous activist. And she said there's an absolute alliance between this socialists, between the anti-Semites, as well as the Islamic extremists to infiltrate all these Western cultures and countries, like this place called the United States of America, and do what they're doing in certain sections of Dearborn, Michigan. Do what they're doing in certain sections of Minneapolis, Minnesota, with Somalians. And they're just taking over. They're not looking to blend in.

And then you have this massive. fraud scheme that took a billion dollars out of social services in Minnesota where this joke of a governor looked the other way and went after whistleblowers. And seventy nine of the eighty five people who have been indicted Somalia.

Somali.

Some are American citizens, first generation, whatever. Their community, where are they sending the money, according to Chris Ruffo, back to Somalia. Why would you do that?

Well, there's this terror group there who runs things called Al-Shabaab. What are they? An al-Qaeda affiliate. What do they like to do? kill Americans most of all, or anyone that's not a Muslim.

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Learn more on Firstnet.com slash public safety first. If you're interested in it, Brian's talking about it. You're with Brian Kilmead. President Trump and Secretary Hegsteth have made it clear that presidentially designated narco-terrorist groups are subject to lethal targeting in accordance with the laws of war. With respect to the strikes in question on September 2nd, Secretary Hegseth authorized Admiral Bradley to conduct these kinetic strikes.

Admiral Bradley worked well within his authority and the law, directing the engagement to ensure the boat was destroyed and the threat to the United States of America was eliminated. That is Carol Ann Levitt explaining what happened September 2nd, because the Democrats are using this as a total distraction. And this is one thing I will say. They want to be briefed and find out what the plan is, okay? Do it.

Do it. And they have been briefed.

Now keep them up to date daily. But guys like Mark Kelly, who used to depend on to be nonpartisan when it comes to military and security issues, has already blown his cover. That treason tape that he put out. Shows really what he thinks of the military. He's all about politics.

Even though I appreciate his intellect and his service, obviously, as a fighter pilot over 30 missions, got skills, got guts, goes to the space, I get it. But what he's acted like as a senator has been abysmal. Think about how he didn't even alert anyone or make use his cachet and his street cred in order to tell Joe Biden, if you don't fix the border, I am going to come out against you. I'm not voting for anything unless you fix the border. Or if he made a if he made that press had that press conference, You know who would have changed?

It would have changed policies, just like I think when McKenzie and Milley put their four stars on the table and said, if you leave Afghanistan this way, I resign, it would have changed the policy. But they have no guts, but they really love coming out against Trump. But here's a guy that lives by his ethics and the military code entire life. And it's my privilege to bring in Lieutenant Colonel Alan West. He heads the Republican Party over in Dallas.

Uh Colonel, your thoughts I'm Double taps when it comes to drone strikes or F-16 strikes on military targets.

Well, first and foremost, Brian, it's a pleasure to be with you. Hope you had a great Thanksgiving. I don't recall anybody saying anything to Barack Obama when he had a kill list and he was taking out people with drone strikes to include an American citizen. I don't recall anyone complaining about the fact that the members of SEAL Team 6 went into the compound where Osama bin Laden was and they did not take any prisoners other than the women and the children that were there. They double-tapped Osama bin Laden.

We know that. They killed his son, right? When we are talking. Yeah, yeah. Killed all the males.

And so, what we have to understand is when you're talking about non-state, non-uniform enemy combatants, these are different classes of people as opposed to people that are from a designated nation-state that are wearing a uniform. Yes, they have rights and privileges under the uniform, I mean, the law of land warfare. But terrorists do not. And I think right now, the interesting discussion we should have is what is the right rule of engagement to deal with these terrorists? These people that go out there, they don't wear uniforms, they hide amongst civilians.

How do we deal with that to include here in the United States of America? And you said something very important. This is just another distraction from the left because they don't want to talk about the failure of the Biden administration, Operation Allies Welcome, that caused two National Guard members to be shot, one of them, Sarah Berkshire, to be dead. Absolutely. And I want to get to that, too.

But you were a guy, you know, I'm famously the first. Time you made international news is when you put a gun to a terrorist head because you knew the next terror attack was coming. The IED was placed, if I remember correctly, and the guy wasn't talking. You knew time was not on your side.

So you went ahead and put a gun to his head. You threatened the guy. You got the information, you saved lives, and then turned yourself in and said, Listen, I broke the code, but I made a choice and you're proud of it. And that made huge headlines. Did I get that story correct?

Yeah, you pretty much so did. You know, I took an action that I knew was coloring outside the boundaries, but it was a psychological intimidation tactic to fire my pistol over his head. And then, of course, I went and reported the information that he gave us, and I also put myself on report. And when the investigation came down, I was fully forthright and forthcoming with the actions that I took. I was taken out of command.

I was fined $5,000. And I retired from the United States military with an honorable discharge. And guess what? Message to Senator Kelly: when you are retired from the military, you're still under the jurisdiction of the UCMJ.

So we are supposed to carry ourselves as retired military officers or enlisted senior enlisted members. And that's something that I think Mark Kelly has forgotten. Yeah.

So Senator Mark Kelly says this: when the president. Reacted, and I want to get to this, with the D.C. shooting that killed one National Guard member. She lost her life immediately. The guy went back and finished her, by the way.

She was shot twice. And now we have some good news, some slight improvement for the other National Guardsman who's trying to recover in West Virginia, the West Virginia National Guard who was serving in Washington, D.C.

So as we do that, The president said, Listen, from now on, third world countries, everything's on hold, including the Afghanistan special section that allowed them to come here. Everything goes on hold. Listen to what Mark Kelly said about that. When I heard this. secretaries say that they're going to pause immigration from third world countries.

I mean, I I take that as a message that they don't want brown people. coming to the United States. And I I find that disturbing. What's wrong with him? You d is that how you interpret it?

No, I don't. I think that once again, they're playing the identity politics. And that is a Marxist leftist. That's someone that has forgotten his oath to support and defend the Constitution. And you're right.

Where was his voice when Joe Biden was violating the Constitution that he took an oath to support and defend in opening up our borders? And this is not about black people, brown people, orange people, yellow people, green people. This is about protecting our national sovereignty. This is about the safety and security of American citizens. And shame on him for not understanding that he should be more concerned about, you know, Andrew Wolfe, who is still fighting for his life, or the family of Sarah Bergstrom, who on Thanksgiving she will never be there again.

That should be his most important concern as a legislator here in the United States of America.

So let's talk about what happened. And we have somebody who got here and got asylum in April, came here after the evacuation of Afghanistan. The way we left was humiliating, the worst thing that ever happened in modern military history makes Saigon look like a well-planned exit.

So that happens, and we get thousands of Afghanis here.

Now, this guy evidently was part of a zero unit in Afghanistan. You probably know more than most about it.

Now, because they work with us in Afghanistan doesn't mean that they should belong on our cul-de-sac in America. It's going to be culture shock, we know, and the social work, the way you're going to fit in or not fit in is going to cause stress, let alone any PTSD. This guy evidently had showed signs of melting down by everybody that knew him. They never really reported full circle to take action on him, but he was a member of somebody that said was worthy of asylum in April during when Trump was in office.

So, this guy melted down, and then he ends up being a killer, a terrorist, and shooting two of our people because they were in camouflage, in my view. And sadly, they weren't carrying rifles, which I see National Guard in Penn Station, they carry rifles. I don't know why these guys weren't carrying rifles.

So, your thoughts about what brought this guy to our doorstep in Washington State and ultimately Washington, D.C.?

Okay. Well, first and foremost, we got to understand those of us that were in Afghanistan, it was a regular occurrence of what we call green-on-blue attacks when you had individuals that were part of the Afghan military that would turn their weapons on our troops. And so, just because you were quote-unquote alongside of us, that does not mean that you are not susceptible to some of the radicalization. I think it's so important that we track these individuals once they come here because this is a recurring theme. We saw last year in Oklahoma, an Afghan national was picked up on terrorist charges.

He was threatening to a terrorist attack on election day. We just had an Afghan national get picked up here in North Texas saying he was going to build a bomb and blow people, blow up Fort Worth.

So, I think that just because we have allowed these people in does not mean that we have to start checking on them, we have to start knowing. And who they're associating with, and things of this nature.

So, the thing is, Colonel, you know, too, that sometimes some guys have put their lives on the line for Americans. And those are the fixers, good friends. And I know Pete Hegseth in particular got his fixer here when he was an anchor at Fox.

So and and that you know I have three I have three of mine. Three of my interpreter translators are here in the United States of America, but they were properly vetted, not what we saw happen in that debacle of in Afghanistan in the debate. Have they expressed trouble m meshing into American culture? No, as a matter of fact, one of them is, he resettled down in Georgia and he used to dress his young son up in University of Georgia attire. He was a big Georgia Bulldog fan.

So I want you to hear one of my callers yesterday as we're going over this story. This is Ryan on the phone from Oklahoma, a veteran. Listen. I can relate to that a little bit. Like, I've been.

uh United States Marine combat veteran and um my My interpreter is back here in the States, and I don't know what he was promised. I don't know what he was told, but He's very disgruntled. Like, I've been on the phone with him frequently, and he's going through a mental hiatus. And I've been. you know worried about a lot.

So he went on to say, do we have any more of that? Yeah, we have the other cut? I mean, he's complaining about everything from taxes to he's his wife was incarcerated for Uh Abusing their children, and he doesn't understand how that's a problem here, like the culture. Yes. They're not used to it and Requested.

Okay. He's like, why won't they let my wife out? And I'm like, well, buddy, this is what you signed up for. This is what you came over for.

So he went on, but do you understand?

So this is a real life story unfolding in real time. And I said to him, you got to take action because this guy's in another attempted this guy is basically another potential assassin. Yeah, and I think that's so important. What he talked about was that cultural transition. This is not Afghanistan.

This is not Qatar or any other Islamist theocracy-dominated country. We believe in individual rights and freedoms and liberties. We believe, you know, children have to be respected. We believe that women have to be respected and they should not be beaten and things of this nature.

So that's a, you know, honor killings. I mean, we had a spade of that going on here in the United States of America.

So I think it's really important that there is some type of transition program that we have for these individuals. But I think it's also good that many of these folks that sponsored, you know, we need to stay in touch with them. I stay in touch with several of my interpreters, and they're doing very well. One of them is a small business owner. All right, Colonel, there's a lot to talk about.

Thanks so much for covering it for us. Uniquely qualified to handle it all. Lieutenant Colonel Alan West, thanks. Thank you, Brian. Yeah, next, we keep it in Texas, Senator John Cornyn.

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I hate the city, I hate the Bachelorettes, I hate the pedal taverns, I hate country music, I hate all of the things that make Nashville apparently an its city to the rest of the country, but I hate it. And that is Afton Bain for Congress. She's a Democrat and she wants to represent Nashville, Tennessee, the 7th District. And as you can hear, she hates it. These are conversations that she had that she believes that she's been unable to explain, but yet she's within single digits of a massive upset in Tennessee.

What does that tell the Republican Party?

Well, a man that knows all about it, as experienced as anyone, and successful as anyone, joins us now. Republican Senator from Texas, Senator John Cornyn. Senator, are you concerned that a woman who says things like this and worse? Would be within single digits of winning that House seat. Yeah, I think it's a unique approach, Brian.

I don't think it's going to work. I mean, how in the world can you inspire people to support you and talking about what you want to accomplish for their benefit if you say you hate them and you hate the city they live in? I just I don't get it. But what if the polls are correct, Senator? You've seen it all.

You've seen upsets and you've seen bad polling and good polling.

So if the polls are correct and it's a two or three point race. I mean what should Republicans take from this?

Well, what they should take from it is they better turn out to vote. And because what happens in these races, Brian, in these primaries and these special elections and the runoffs is that only a small fraction of the voters actually turn out to vote. And it's the folks who do turn out who make the who get to choose, not the ones who don't show up.

So I think this should be a call to action. To make sure that people turn out to vote and make sure that this disaster in the making doesn't happen. Do you agree? And maybe you don't. That the conventional wisdom is affordability is the hot issue in this country.

Most polls say that. Does Senator Cornyn think that? It's always been an issue. I mean, if you think about the economic issues, I mean, every poll, you mentioned polls a moment ago, every poll you take about it well you take that's you ask what people's concerns are economics and kitchen table issues rise to the very top. The reason I think it's such an issue now is because we're coming off forty year high inflation under the Biden administration.

And everybody knows that costs of living has increased. What we're trying to do is get the economy moving again so that we see economic growth and job creation far exceed the rate of inflation as the Federal Reserve tries to knock that down. But yeah, it's always been an issue, but of course, now it's very much in the news with what happened in New York. Because I think that they said, okay, Trump's in charge, inflation's going to drop, and it's dropped to 2.8%, but it hasn't dropped from the all-time highs. And you want to get it down to 2%.

So people are saying, where's the gratification for changing parties in power? And brings us to the big debate now. Healthcare subsidies. Obamacare, you've been fighting it every step of the way. No Republican support.

Now you're supposed to fix it. If you don't want to hurt people who would go living paycheck to paycheck, who now wonder how they're going to afford Their policies What are you guys working on, I hear, from a bipartisan level to address this?

Well, first of all, as President Trump has said, we're going to quit sending the money to insurance companies. insurance companies skim twenty percent off the top for profit in administration, and that money doesn't help people who need health care. And so there's been a number of good ideas that doctor Bill Cassidy and Senator Mike Crapo, Chairman of the Finance Committee, have been floating that we're working on that would provide people catastrophic health care coverage, but then Send money to them to put in their own health savings. Do you think you'd get Democrats to sign on to that?

Well, we need to try. But I think to your point, there's always a contrast. And the contrast here may be between Democrats who want to keep pouring money into a broken system that's caused eighteen percent increase in premiums in Texas alone this year versus and that is enriching insurance companies versus a system that actually helps Patience and helps consumers and gets money in their pocket. I think that's a pretty good contrast. Senator, you're going to have a fight to get that nomination and keep the Senate seat.

You got Ken Paxton and Wesley Hunt. Your thoughts about your Republican-Republican-Republican race?

Well, I've been in a lot of races, as you noted before, Brian, and fortunately, I've always been successful. And but this one is a little different. Um and uh certainly the Attorney General As I think the main problem he has is I think there's a big question mark whether he could win the election in November or not. And also, who's on the ballot in November makes a lot of difference in terms of down ballot turnout and down ballot races, including these five new congressional seats in Texas.

So I think I'm best situated to do that. Senator, I think you're a real asset in there, a real level-headed person who's really helped the country a lot. Running a business comes with a lot of what-ifs. But luckily, there's a simple answer to them. Shopify.

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Well, you just go to my site, just click on them, tell me what you want. Tell me there's a little box there, like 1-800 flowers, and you just tell me what you want to say, make it brief, and I'll get it out. This hour, I've got Bruce Schneier standing by. He's the author of Rewiring Democracy: How AI Will Transform Our Politics, Government, and Citizenship. If there's a hotter topic in the country, I don't know what it is.

It probably was a topic at your lunch table at Thanksgiving.

Meanwhile, we'll do a simulcast with Stuart Varney from the Fox Business Channel shortly, too. And we're also monitoring what's happening in Washington because the president's having his ninth cabinet meeting on camera. Everyone there, Steve Woodcoff, not he's in Moscow.

So let's get to the big three. Number three. When people want to surrender, you don't kill them. And they have to pose an imminent threat. It's hard to believe that two people on a on a raft Trying to survive would pose an imminent threat.

I just don't. That is so disingenuous for that military officer, turned Republican congressman from Nebraska who doesn't like Trump. Venezuela, and Maduro has got to go as both sides are asking the Trump team what the goal is, while the Dems are focusing on a drug boat bombing from September. Number two. Are we going to just continue to do the status quo we're doing right now?

I don't think that's the answer, because that doesn't seem to persuade Putin to stop the war. I think what we need to do significantly increase military pressure. Absolutely, there's got to be some ramifications if Moscow doesn't move forward. And it's your move, Moscow. Trump team files into Russia to engage Putin directly on major progress made with Ukraine, the key to peace, make Putin a walk make Putin's walkaway costly.

Number one. And I can say, having had the privilege of representing Tennessee in years past, I want to tell you that I have never seen. The political tides shift as far and as fast as we're seeing them move in this election. Yeah, Tennessee's Al Gore talking about what it was like to lose his state and lose the election. Talking about Afton Bain from Congress.

He's as left-wing as he gets. Al Gore trying to help out. Special election in Tennessee.

So much to learn for both parties with the results and how it all leads to affordability. And who will make or break the midterms? I think if it's a single-digit Republican win, let alone a loss. It is going to be a wake-up call for the entire party who have to make sure the President's messages and all his overseas trips and the success he's having, how it relates back home, along with working on the economy. And the thing is, people say, well, what else you got besides the big bill?

And the big bill is important because it had everything in it. There's no small gains, there's just one massive gain when it passed. Bruce Schneier joins us now. And, Bruce, this administration is very pro-AI, and they're doing everything possible to beat China. Is that the right move?

You know, I am optimistic about AI. I don't think the arms race is the right metaphor. This is not the 1960s. This is not the way science works. It's very international.

China produces deep seek, it's a model that advances, and we all see it. We all learn from the paper. Google publishes papers. Microsoft does. It's not really an arms race.

I do want to see us advancing, but it really has to be international because that's the way the science works. Right. So, what AI has already done? How has it affected us already? They say, experts like you say this has hit us dramatically quicker than the whole internet of 2000.

You know, it's hard to know. I mean, it's AI is a buzzword and a technology. It's a lot of things. You use Apple or Google Maps, you're using AI. You're getting a feed from social media.

AI is giving it to you. It's not the AI we think of, we think of as chatbots. There, we're seeing a lot of experiments, not a lot of uses. I worry, I mean, it's not whether AI can take your job, it's whether AI can convince your boss that it can take your job, and then it's too late. Right.

And we're not seeing yet all the different ways AI can either augment or replace. people. It is happening fast and advances are continuing, but I don't think we've seen big changes yet.

So, what changes have we seen? Like in country to country? It's not just the U.S., it's not just China. I mean, people are embracing this technology, it seems. It is worldwide.

And no, it is not US versus China. Many other countries. Switzerland last month released a public AI model, not corporate, about as good as last year's best model, so almost to the top. But here's one not built on a near-term profit stack. Super interesting.

Us Singapore is building a model based on Southeast Asian languages because they are not represented well in these Western models. There's a lot of experimentation around the globe, but it is all happening in the open in public. The arms race is a metaphor that the US tech giants want you to swallow because it just means they can run refshot over everything. But it's really not the way to think.

Okay, a couple of things that you do outline in your book and in these columns. Like, for example, in Japan, you talk about a 33-year-old engineer who is a fringe candidate in a field of 30, ends up coming in fifth. His party ends up playing a major role in Japanese politics because he used AI to go on YouTube and answer thousands of questions and seem tapped into the Japanese public.

So, this is actually a way better story than he wrote because two months ago, he got elected to the upper chamber in Japan, the upper chamber of the Daik, equivalent to our Senate. And he now has a party. And in Japan, when you're a party, you get funding. He's using that funding to create AI tools to help government.

So he's building AI tools for sense-making, to be able to communicate with his constituents, understand what they want, and craft legislation or amend legislation to suit. It's kind of an amazing story. You're right, an engineer who's trying to re-engineer Japanese politics, but to be more responsive, to be more democratic. It is an amazing. I actually spoke to him last week.

He's a really cool guy.

So, you also talk about in Brazil, there was a way to, I guess. Automate judicial procedures, not verdicts or opinions, but procedures because to organize caseloads. I mean, that's something where AI has helped, right?

So this is actually another really great story.

So Brazil is more litigious than the United States by a lot. They spend 1% of their GDP on litigation in that country. And the government spends another 1% paying out in cases against the government. They're using AI not to be judges, but to assign cases and workload and to figure out what to do, and it's working. It's reducing a multiyear backlog in cases.

The weird part of that story is the attorneys are now using AI to file more cases.

So cases are being resolved faster, but more cases are being filed.

Now, this feels like a good democracy story. I mean, I want there to be litigation against government. That feels like a way for people to hold government accountable. And for that to be more efficient. is a good thing.

But we regularly see these AI arms races, and one side uses it and then the other side uses it. And that, you know, and that and that, how that shakes out, we just don't know the answer. Right. So, and just a United States story in California, CalMatters, a nonprofit, nonpartisan news organization. What role did this play?

All right, so I'm going to tell you about CalMATOS because you might actually like them. They're an organization that collects every public utterance by California officials, every floor speech, campaign email, tweet, everything, combines it with their voting record, and who funds them, and who lobbies them. And you, as a citizen, can go look at that database and just see what your legislator is doing. They have a program just for journalists, so you can access it, I can't. It's called Tip Sheet.

And what AI does is it looks through all of that and looks for anomalies. but doesn't publish them. It makes them available for human journalists to look at, do the research, and see if there's a story. It's a really interesting way we're doing citizen watchdogging. But with AI not doing, not replacing the journalists.

But augmenting their capabilities. And to be able to do that, you gotta be a master at the command structure. Those are my terms, maybe not yours. Like the command to form something like that, correct?

So CalMatters does, but they're what they did is they they built this tip sheet.

So they did all that mastering of LLMs and queries and how to format things. And then they make it available in an easy to read form for journalists like you.

So interesting.

So that's some of the positives.

So we now understand in terms of the race itself. I was shocked to see Sam Altman. He was the first one to formally that I could see come out to the general public and say AI is going to revolutionize everything. And it's a little scary too. And he's fine.

You know, he announced open AI. And he says, by the way, I'm putting billions into it. I'm getting billions invested into it. And we're not going to be profitable at the earliest to 2030. And then we find out they're no longer perhaps the leader as Google rolls out Gemini, and they seem to have caught up.

And now he's saying it's an all-hands-on-deck moment for. Shopa GBT. I was wondering if you could give me an idea of who's doing what in this business. It's really interesting that all of the top-tier models are about the same. You'd imagine with these different skunk works doing secret stuff, they'd be different, but when you look at performance, They're all about the same.

My guess is that these large models will never be profitable. that you know we don't want a chat bot that does everything. We want a chatbot that is a good travel agent or a good investment counselor or a good talk show host, right? We want to do a specialized thing And we're seeing these smaller, nimbler, cheaper models. That Swiss model should terrify.

The big companies. And this is two universities in Switzerland with some government funding and a supercomputer center they had lying around from particle physics days. They built a model that is like. 12 months p uh 12 months behind the leading models. That's freaking amazing.

And we're seeing more countries do that, more organizations do that. I'm not sure these large, massive US tech giants have a future. That's so interesting because we remember in 2000 You know, we heard we thought every one of these dot-coms were going to be um so profitable when in the end there's only a handful that survived and so much money was lost, the so-called dot-com bubble. You know, Bruce, I know you're an expert on AI, maybe more than less so for finances, but should people be worried about an AI bubble? You know, I mean, I am so guy, I'm not a finance expert, but we know that the Dow is being propped up by these seven companies.

We know that there's massive investments. I mean, the wildcard is tech advances. I mean, they are pushing for Breakthroughs.

Now, we don't know. I mean, we don't know whether these LLMs will get incrementally better as we give them more compute and more data, or if we reach the plateau, right? I mean, recently, the chief AI scientist at Meta left to form his own company because he thinks that. These LLMs are a dead end. We've seen their trick.

We've got to do something else. And he has a bunch of new ideas.

So we could see these revolutions at any time. We can't predict them. But right now with current tech I'm betting on the smaller, cheaper, sometimes not even corporate models.

So it's already revolutionized warfare in real time in the Ukraine-Russia war. These drones aren't being flown by men or women with joysticks in a basement. They're now programmed, AI programmed, I understand. They basically give them the message. It's up to them to get to the target, explode the target.

uh on their own They're figuring it out. Uh it amazes me. Does it amaze you? I mean, it is, and the audience needs to understand that these are not LLMs. AI is bigger.

We always talk about the chat bots. And the image generators, the large language models, there's a lot of predictive AI. The ads giving you turn-re-turn directions. is not a a chatbot. The AI that is piloting that drone the AI that is looking through information.

Trying to find correlations, that is reading your chest x-rays, those are not chatbots. They are equally revolutionary, but they're different. They're smaller, they're more precisely created, they do one thing. You know, very well or marginally well. And right, it's revolutionizing warfare, it's revolutionizing elections.

I saw two weeks ago the first AI model that is used for door knockers. The people on election day go door to door, knocking on the supporter of their candidate, get out to the polls, I can drive you.

So now there is an AI that tells them where to go, what to say, who they're talking to. Gives them feedback.

So, something as tactical as that that matters in U.S. elections all over the country. Is being revolutionized by AI. And Bruce Snyder, our guest, he's talking about his book, Rewiring Democracy.

So, Bruce, I imagine. A lot of so-called consultants or Republican and Democratic experts are going to be looking to explore this. I remember, I think it was we had somebody, it was with Howard Dean's campaign. They talked about micro-targeting people, being able to get into neighborhoods and finding out in that household who votes for whom. And we thought that was revolutionary.

So, do you think the first party that understands what they can do with AI is going to have a huge impact like that party in Japan? Do you think any party is really digesting this fully and seeing what it can do?

So both parties are. Generally, it's separate companies that work with either party. Several things we're seeing. We're seeing AIs that help people run for office.

Now, don't think of Congress or Senate. Think of local office. Think of city council. No money, no time, no budget, no expertise. AI is helping candidates, sometimes parties, sometimes not allied candidates for, like, you know, just I don't know, police something where just not a party candidate, uh, for polling.

Enormous amount of AI being used to help. with opinion polls. I mean, it's a little weird, you're asking an AI not a person, but you can ask NAI a million questions. And the last thing. is in formulating campaign strategy.

And AI is helping that in the U.S. and around the globe. It's a party in Argentina that did an enormous amount of that last year. Wow, Bruce, fascinating stuff. You're on the cutting edge.

You're tackling one of the most difficult, fast-moving topics in all the world. Bruce Snyer, thanks so much. Congratulations on your book that everyone should go out and get. Thanks so much, Bruce. Thank you.

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Leaving Ole Miss was extremely difficult. extremely difficult decision. And in that, we tried every single thing possible. to continue to coach the team through the playoffs. McKinney Joaches, the players.

In the end. That was their decision, and we totally respect that.

Okay, number one, that was Lane Kiffen. And I think that whole thing shows how broken the college system is. LSU job is open. They spend way too much money on Notre Dame coach Brian Kelly. He's been an epic fail.

They get rid of him.

So they got to have a big name into one of the premier college programs.

So they go after Lane Kiffen. What has he done?

Well, he coached the Raiders in his 30s and he went to Alabama to rehab his career and thought of winning wherever he went. And they became a sought-after coach at Ole Miss. And he's brought that team to the they have a shot at the national championship. They're certainly going to make the playoffs. We just won't during the year.

That's a place where Jack Start went and Eli Manning went and Archie Manning went, but they're not a juggernaut. But he's made them great, but he's done it through the transfer portal when you can leave and go to another college. And he's not done through recruiting because he didn't have the tradition.

So he decides to go to LSU and says, hey, by the way, even though the playoffs are about to start, I'm leaving LSU now, but I don't have to leave. I can coach in the playoffs. Why would, in a million years, Ole Miss cannot let him coach? Why? He's going to be taking all the best players and bringing them to LSU.

What's he going to do in between practices? Recruit for LSU? They're paying him $90 million. Of course he is. That's why they're signing him now.

They should prevent a coach from interviewing for a job during the season. They should move back the transfer portal. I don't care what it takes. They need to reform this sport. And they're asking.

Actually, asking for Washington's help because the NCAA is virtually powerless. They were powerless through the course, they didn't fight it out, so therefore, this is a rudderless ship. The product is great. I gave a lot of respect for the players and coaches, but it's become such a mercenary situation where, in this, the only person to win here is Lane Kiffin. Everybody else lost.

LSU should have been forced to wait till after the season. The fastest three hours in radio. You're with Brian Kilmead. It says here you work as a wedding singer. I was.

How many ended in divorce? Yeah, so If I were you, I'd phone up the War Department, volunteer your services, because you've just invented a new form of torture. I'll give you a tip for future auditions. Don't. I don't mean to be unkind, but you have one of the worst singing voices.

possibly in Miami. You're one of the worst singers I've ever heard in my life. Yeah, awful. It looked like the before, during and after of Weight Watchers.

So that is Simon Kell, obviously, when he was on American Idol here in America, and I think in Britain, but he changed his tune when he became owner of X Factor.

Now he's much nicer, but he's got these huge regrets in his book that's out.

Now he's become a parent. He said, I was just too mean back then. I mean, we interviewed him multiple times. Allison might have been predating you. No, I remember the key.

Before you got here, I'd fly out for every Because it was Fox. Yeah.

Because then they sold ABC. But I would do the final because you're talking about 20 to 30 million people watching an event for a non-sporting event. You don't even get that anything close to that today. No, it was huge. And the two of you had quite the chemistry.

Yeah, we did. But we broke up, I guess. And as far as I know, he does not miss me, which is blowing because I was at his house. And this is the first. Have you guys all, Eric, and Pete, this for you too?

Have you ever heard of minimalists? Yes, we have to do that.

So he's a multi-millionaire, I mean probably a billionaire now.

So he has One shot. Five t-shirts. Four pairs of jeans. Nothing's in his house. I mean, literally nothing, like a vase on the table.

I go, what's going on? He goes, I don't like a lot of stuff. He has no bag. Remember, I have a backpack, and I still have a bag, but not as bad as I used to be. I guess he doesn't carry a wallet.

So He's got he has a good uh dozen cars and you only need two cars. Like Okay. I've never seen anybody like that.

So he is just a very simple person who does a lot of complicated things and it's got nothing on him. I mean, I've never seen anything like that. But that's incredible. That makes packing so easy. You just need jeans and a t-shirt all the time.

And if you forget your outfit. You go get some Jahan shirts. Right. You should. And I'm saying to myself, Huge guy could get anything.

And, like, I'm somewhere now, I have so many t-shirts. But now, I went through all my clothes, I go through my t-shirts, and I'm like, I like them all. I there's no way I'm gonna wear them all. But there's no reason to get rid of them. Like they're not worn.

What do you do? Like, do you just say it's time? I mean, sometimes you just like donate them and make yourself feel better. Be like, I'm not gonna wear all of these. I can donate them to someone who could use them.

Right. And then you have more space in your closet or your drawers. Right. Do you see a lot of shirtless people out there? They if they only had money for a t shirt.

I mean Sometimes walking around New York, usually I don't think I want to see all of those people without. Right, absolutely. Anthony, you're in Florida. Hey, Anthony. Hello?

What's on your mind, Anthony? You're in Florida.

Well, I want to speak about. Yes, thank you, Brian, for taking my call. No problem. I want to speak about. I heard you speaking earlier with the colonel.

Curtel West.

Sorry, I didn't cluster. Yeah.

About the point of view that you had, but I want to bring up my son-in-law, whose name is. Hurricane. Juan Fernandez, who's being held at Alligator Alley. It was picked up last Monday. He's been here his entire life, was brought here one years old.

I'm thinking he was one and a half, maybe two. Never been anywhere. Did get in trouble when he was early twenties. Went to jail, paid his time, came out, kept his nose clean, married my daughter, and by the way. why he went to jail is another reason my chief's more stuff not You know, not that he's a criminal or any of that sort, but he's a good man.

Got my grandkids. He's been by the side, doing everything he can, started his own business and everything. He got picked up when he went to get a check in. My point of view is that they're talking of sending him to Sudan, Africa, Muslim country, ninety seven percent. I feel like you're sending our Christian men To their death, because I don't understand why we're going to say you talk about them not simulating over here in America, and they're brought here.

Why are we sending Christians over there to get killed? Where's he from? What's his original country? He's Cuban. He's Cuban.

Well, that's the problem. Cuba doesn't take anybody back. Right, they don't want to take anybody back, but I don't understand why they just don't leave him here. He's not. I know.

Do you have a lawyer? Do you have a lawyer? Well, we just got a letter today. We we are frantic because like I said, He's a very good man, destroying the family. Anthony, let's say that everything you're saying is correct and that he is a good guy, that he just made bad decisions.

But the way the administration looks at it If you're an illegal immigrant here with a criminal past, That's the problem. I'll give you an example. The guy that drives me to work is now a citizen, but it took him 15, 17 years. He had a green card. He said to me, If I got in a bar fight, if I got a DWI, I'm gone, I'm done, I'm finished.

If I don't pay my taxes, if I make one mistake, they made that clear to me. That is from Brazil, didn't do anything wrong, still hasn't. He's worried about even getting a speeding ticket. But that's what they do in the immigration offices. They put that fear into you, and they should, that you know, you're here, you're on trial.

So I imagine from what you tell me that he's a good guy that made bad decisions, but he's got a criminal record.

So that's how he got probably mixed up. My hope is that you can get an attorney that's affordable. And if he is a good guy, could find a way to stay? Or be able to pick a country like Costa Rica, which I think has been brought up in the past as another place to go. Anthony, I hear you.

I love the real world stories. Steve in Jacksonville, Florida. Hey, Steve. Hey, Brian, I appreciate you taking my phone call. No problem.

Hey, my question is on Senator Mark Kelly. He's you know, he's retired from the Navy. And just like I received, I'm a retired Marine. And after my 30th year, when I retired, I received a uh my certificate of retirement. You know, on the left side, it tells you, hey, you retired, and that's your permanent rate.

On the left side, There are seven I call them paragraphs one through seven on a third. line it states As a retired Marine. You may be ordered back to active duty. without your consent. In other words, even at even though I did my thirty years, I completed everything.

I'm s I'm still you know, responsible for all my actions. And they can they I can be recalled for anything. And with him telling people to our other service members to disobey orders. Yep. I think that falls underneath, you know, be recalled and, you know.

Steve, you know what he says, though. Steve, you know what he says? I'm just reminding people: you don't have to obey illegal orders. But what does that do for somebody in the field? Whether you got a gun in your hand in the jungles or the deserts of Iraq?

Or you're in the cockpit of an F-16.

Now you have to say to yourself, well, is taking out this target illegal? Should I really be blowing up a drug boat? Should I really be taking out a terrorist in Sudan or Somalia? Maybe I don't want to get sued. Or I'm going to use this as an out.

Don't really like Trump too much. Don't like Biden too much. I'm going to go against my order. Because I was by a decorated military veteran now in the Senate. And a congresswoman, associated now a senator in the CIA and these three of the veterans, they told me don't dis don't be afraid to disobey an illegal act.

But now I gotta act like I'm an an attorney in the cockpit. an attorney with a rifle in my hand? Going around a corner blind.

So I'm with you. I can't believe the tape was done. You heard President Trump on this show two weeks ago. He said when he first saw that tape, He thought it was a joke. He thought it was a comedy thing.

You know, we're an AI thing, I think he was trying to say, because you don't know anymore what's real and what's not. I mean, to see Mark Kelly say something that irresponsible. And we heard, I could play Spider-Marks from last week, a guy on CNN, he's probably fights critical of the president 70% of the time. He couldn't believe these guys did something that irresponsible. But Mark Kelly got on Jimmy Kimmel.

He's making some money going into his campaign. People are talking about being president.

So I guess it's working for him. Mark in Manhattan here in New York City. Hey, Mark. Good morning, Brian. I was just hearing your discussion of AI, and I'd like to have a cautionary comment about AI.

I'm a former systems programmer, and the enthusiasm for AI strikes me as having a certain blindness to it. I think it's time for everyone to take a look at the old movie Terminator No. one with Arnold Schwarzenegger. AI can quickly get out of human control in general. And why AI is a programmer.

It has no feelings, no human input to anything in the way of emotional content. And I'm speaking as a former programmer. I was around in the nineteen sixties witnessing the very first program ever written about AI, and it was an attempt to teach the alphabet to a computer. It was exceedingly difficult at the time and took a friend of mine approximately four years to teach the The computer from the letter A to G.

Now, if things get that complex and that out of human control. What happens if the machinery of AI and all of these things begins to dis uh substitute artificial human feelings? Hey, Mark, you know who you sound like? Elon Musk. That's what he said two years ago.

You know, or maybe he was three now, when Sam Altman, his former partner, came out and said, guys, do you realize how dangerous this is? And actually Sam Altman has said the same thing. But they say what's more dangerous is allowing China to get there first and always trailing China. And then to say and whoever gets there first, by the way, will decide how much we know and what evils they'll deal. I trust our culture a lot more than the Chinese culture.

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We're waiting on the president's cabinet meeting. And that's usually it. I find it fascinating. Last one went about three hours. But I just would love one thing because it would just save, make Jon Stewart work a little bit harder on the daily show.

And just to open up and say in this president the best ever under your leadership, we don't need that. We know this cabinet's extremely tight. We know you really get along. We know you have, I really do know this personally. They legitimately invite him.

We just Brian Kilmead joins us. Kilmead. The Treasury Department is investigating whether Minnesota's welfare money went to the Somali terror group al-Shabaab. I want to know the Governor of Minnesota, Tim Waltz. He stopped the investigation.

What's going on here? Where's the accountability? Not only that, he goes after the whistleblowers that brought it forward. And he says, how dare you generalize? He says, on the, how dare the president generalize and talk about the Somali community and just indict one community?

There were other people doing these horrible things to the tune of a billion dollars. And I knew this would interest you, Stuart. Did you know of the 86 people who have been indicted on this and more are coming, 79 are from the Somali community. Am I generalizing or am I accurately portraying who's doing this? And some of the most horrific things possible.

I'll give you an example. This guy, Don Gator, a former Minnesota lawmaker, found out that this safari restaurant. It has 35 tables. And serves people for the underserved community, gets financed to give people, basically homeless people, and people who are hard in their luck. Uh meals.

In a restaurant of 35 tables, he says he was serving 18,000 meals a week.

So guess who was paying for that? The taxpayer. Who was getting that money? The so-called owner. Guess where that money was going?

According to Chris Ruffo, it was going back to Somalia where the El Shabaab is basically running things. You have other things where they take the autistic community, get a whole bunch of money for service.

So they have fake autistic people from the Somali community get money to be taught with autistic teachers who are basically not taught. They talk to kids who are totally on the straight track. They're getting all this money, all these supplements, and the parents are getting kickbacks for it in the Somali community. Waltz not only knows this, I imagine, but he ignored it and went after the people that exposed it. One of the things they do when people try to expose it, they say, You're a racist.

You don't like minorities. happens all the time. But Wals's office has told Fox News Digital Should a connection be found between Minnesota tax dollars and al-Shabaab, he welcomed an investigation. But he stopped the investigation, didn't he, Brian? That's my understanding.

Yeah, he did stop it, and it's been exposed. And the way he got out of it on Sunday was instead of doing the follow-up saying that you went after whistleblowers and this happened on your dime and in the permissive community around you, so all the social programs and the pandemic money were going the wrong direction. He didn't follow up on it, which shows you're a terrible central executive, senior executive. Why he's going for another four years and the people of Minnesota would even look at him again? I don't know.

Can't believe it. But did you also see the fact that? That when he was being considered as a vice presidential nominee, and by the way, 400 service workers from a union are also doing it. They came in and they said to him, look into the way he's running Minnesota. Look at the social programs and the corruption involved before you pick him.

Kamala Harris's people either didn't see it or ignored it, they pick him anyway. And he's probably the worst number two in the history of the country. I want to know what Elon Omar. knew about this. I mean, she's central to the Somali community in Minnesota.

And she's been she was there all these years. What did you know anything about it, and if so? What did she do about it? Apparently nothing. Apparently nothing.

But just know this. When you give money to, for example, Yemen, the people in charge are the Houthi rebels, so they're getting a lot of it.

So, when you give money to Somalia, send it back. Al-Shabaab is in charge of Somalia in a war-torn area. And one of the excuses we hear is that they're coming from a society and a culture where a lot of this theft, government theft, is commonplace. Excuse me, that's exactly what Trump is talking about. If you can help our country.

You should be getting priority to be in our country. If you're going to draw on our social service system, let alone work on corruptive practices, you could not be given most favored status. And the people that should be outraged are the taxpayers most first and foremost in Minnesota. Yeah, who should not?

Well, we'll see if they elect him for a third term as governor. I don't think they will. Brian Kilmade, out of time, unfortunately, because this is a good subject. See you again next week. Absolutely.

Thanks so much. Appreciate it, Stuart. Thank you. So the whole thing broke with the Manhattan City Journal. They alleged in a report.

That unnamed federal counterterrorism sources tell them that stolen funds were transferred to Somalia and may have ended up in the terror group's al-Shabaab's hands, though none of the federal charges in the fraud cases including that. I mean, there is so much here that shows the sophistication and going into these humanitarian programs, whether it's senior food banks or whether it's autistic kids, as I mentioned. They got this one story of this Asha Four Hassan, 29 years old, charged with wire fraud. The woman stole fourteen million dollars. fourteen million dollars for a twenty nine year old.

This is absolutely incredible. And their lawyer basically says she's a good person who lost her way. You think? Fourteen million dollars later, can she find her way back to giving the money back to people that need it? During the pandemic, if people delayed giving grants to minority businesses, they immediately were hit with accusations of racisms and lawsuits for discrimination.

So what did they do? Quickly threw the money at their door because the governor is a left wing lunatic And they threw the money at the door as if to say, hey, no one's stopping me. Let me just give the money away. I don't want to get labeled a racist. They go to minority communities and it looks like it was widely abused.

It's absolutely insane that was taking place, how wide a scope this was. And I have to think if Kristen Welker knew how wide this was on Meet the Press on Sunday. I'm pretty sure she'd be a lot more aggressive in the questioning and let him get away with it. You're talking about a billion dollars.

Meanwhile, the president not only is clamping down to find out, and the Treasury Secretary is going to look into it. They're also trying to find, going to withhold $30 million from Minnesota over continuing to give foreigners. truck driver licenses who can't read English. Minnesota refuses to comply, so you're going to lose 30 million. That's Sean Duffy taking action.

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Brian Kilmead here. Thanks so much for listening. I come to you from 48th and 6 in Midtown Manhattan, heard around the country, around the world. We're waiting on the president's. uh of I guess eight camera shoot with his With his cabinet, it's gonna be great.

It's gonna be his ninth one. He's only been doing this for nine months. The previous president, Joe Biden, did four and he needed note cards for the people that he nominated and got confirmed, including his Secretary of Defense. This hour going to be joined by Alexei Lawless, Fox Sports Soccer Analyst. Big day in the world of soccer, the world's most popular sport.

There's gonna be a drawing at the Kennedy Center that could decide who the next World Cup winner is. Why? Because people are gonna be seated, I got it, but they're gonna be picked out randomly and put into groups. That group, you gotta be first or second or a wild card for the third in your conference. And placement means everything.

And you usually don't put you know you usually They do a good job seeding it, but sometimes you get some of those errors of the random drawing. And the best hope for the U.S. is getting the weakest group possible. We want it to be the first time they at least get to the semifinals. After all, it's our home game.

And Trace Gallagher's here getting set to host his show. In 12 hours. And he wanted to make sure the time. He's also doing outnumbered.

So let's get to the big three. Yeah.

Number 3. When people want to surrender, you don't kill them. And they have to pose an imminent threat. It's hard to believe that two people on a on a raft Trying to survive would pose an imminent threat. Yup, that is former Army General Don Bacon, who's a big anti-Trumper, talking about Venezuela.

Maduro's got to go. And both sides are asking the Trump team what the goal is while the Dems focus on the drug boat bombing. We take a look at the stakes. Number two. Are we going to just continue to do the status quo we're doing right now?

I don't think that's the answer, because that doesn't seem to persuade Putin to stop the war. I think what we need to do, significantly increase military pressure. Yes, General Jack Keen, again, 100% right. Your move, Moscow. Trump team flies to Russia to engage Vladimir Putin directly on the major progress made with Ukraine.

The key to peace, making Putin. with Putin's walk away, which I think is likely, but make it costly. Number one. And I can say, having had the privilege of representing Tennessee in years past, I want to tell you that I have never seen. The political tides shift as far and as fast as we're seeing them move in this election.

I, for one, am not happy to hear Al Gore again, but we are talking about Tennessee. Special election in that state, and so much to learn from both parties with the result and how it all leads to how affordability will make or break the midterms from health care to interest rates to energy costs. We'll discuss it. Let's bring in Trace Gallagher. Trace, great to see you.

Great to be here, Brian, as always. Yeah, what brings you to New York? Do you just want to be cold? Yeah, I mean, it's Christmas. I want to see a little bit of snow, and I got my wish.

Oh, you did?

Well, you, yeah, we're going to get it today. Are we getting it now? It's raining right now, and it looks like it might be starting to sleet a little bit, so it's cold out there. And, you know, I'm not a weather guy, but let me tell you, if I was, I would say we're going to see 70% chance of snow by 4 o'clock this afternoon.

So I'm just wondering if Tennessee, you know, they have their special election today, and everyone seems to be saying, What are you talking about? A special election?

Well, you know, they're going to ask to vote on this. And Mark Green left that seat for another opportunity, which is unbelievable. I mean, just commit to. Two years. If you're going to win an election, commit to two years, unless you have a medical issue.

But having said that, I'm wondering if whether it plays a role. It might. I mean, it might play a role because, you know, there's across the country in California, we saw this in Proposition 50. There was a low turnout, Republican voters and special elections and these midterm elections. They have a tendency to not show up.

A lot of mail-in voting, and it's really getting people to the polls. And quite frankly, the Democrats have become very good at knocking on doors, getting people to the polls, driving them, organizing those whole, hey, you need me to mail this thing in for you. They're very good at that. The Republicans are starting to get better, but they need to go a distance. And this is a big race because, I mean, you're looking at deep red, District 7, right, Tennessee?

And it's within the margin of error right now.

Now, listen, some polls have it a little further apart. I think that Bain's going to lose this thing, but again, it's close enough where it's making a lot of news and it's going to make a big impression.

So, Trace, I would say there's lessons to learn if it's close if there was a John Fetterman-like candidate on the Democratic side. He chose people who are open in a red state. Right. But this is not John Fetterman. No.

This is more left-wing than most squad members, who, by the way, are reporting for duty to help her out.

So she's not even pretending as if we don't know what type of lawmaker she will be. Right. And that's the whole thing is she's not trying to ease into this. That's the funniest part about this is you think even Zoran Mamdani was trying a little bit. He was on Martha's show and he's trying to ease into it, right?

Kind of win some people over. She doesn't care. She's saying, this is who I am. I don't really believe in defunding the police anymore. That was a younger me, that kind of stuff.

But for the most part, she's like, this is who I am, and I think you're going to like it.

So, I mean, we can't forget this, cut three.

Okay. Yeah.

I hate the city. I hate the Bachelorettes. I hate the pedal taverns. I hate country music. I hate all of the things that make Nashville barely an its city to the rest of the country, but I hate it.

Yeah, but that you have this young case closed. Right. You have this young contingent in Nashville that's doing the same thing that happened in New York City that we're seeing in Los Angeles. You're seeing people come out and they believe that it's time for a change in Tennessee and New York and these other places. And it's just a shift to the left.

These young women who are very active and very prominent, we have them on our show on the other side a lot, but you can see these young women are very powerful in these big blue cities. And they're, you know, they're getting more powerful. And you look at Nashville, it is not a big blue city, but it has a huge influx of young people from around the country, and they're changing things. They're making a big change because they're trying to show up. And they're showing up.

Because they're showing up. They're showing up and they're active. I mean, that's the whole thing: when you get active and you start running for city councils and you start running for these positions, you start to become very influential. We saw it in San Francisco in the 80s and 90s. We're seeing it in Los Angeles now, even further.

Seeing it in New York, where you see a city that is far left even going further left, and you think, how is that possible?

Well, it is if you have the right influence in the right places. But none of their programs are working. If it was working, you know, Gavin News would have 70 percent approval rating like Gary Brashi, like Governor Brashier. Sure, but in Kentucky. But it's not about results, it's about ideology.

It's about what they think. It's about nirvana, right? They're promising nirvana. They're not promising, you know, the results of the past worked. They're promising you it's going to work now because they've got the elixir, they've got the remedy, and here's what it is.

So here's Speaker Johnson, who's got to be worried. I mean, he's got such a thin margin. And Marjorie Taylor Green's the next one to leave, by the way. Cut eight. The problem is when you have a deep red district, a lot of the people take for granted that the Republican or the conservative is going to win.

And so this is in the middle of a holiday. A lot of people aren't even really aware this is on the ballot.

So we're here. President Trump called into our rally this morning. He'll be doing a teller rally with Matt and I this evening to raise awareness, to get out the vote, to make sure that the people In Tennessee and Nashville, and the 14 surrounding counties understand they better get out and vote. This is a radical leftist on the ballot.

So you think he's worried?

Well, I think he is worried, but I don't think that's the major problem. I mean, he's talking about, well, listen, you know, we've got to get people out to vote like we talked about at first, but we're talking about early polling. Early polling has nothing to do with voters turning out. It has everything to do with the way the voters feel. I mean, if these things are correct, they're getting people who may or may not show up, but they're still getting their opinion.

So it's a totally different ballgame to talk about turnout and that, you know, you can blame it on turnout and then to say, but two months before anybody turned out to vote, people were feeling like this. It was they were feeling close enough that it was within the margin of error. If the polling is correct, that's a different phenomenon altogether than just turnout. I'm going to give you a scenario, and you'll probably talk about this tonight on your show. If there is a single-digit win for Republicans, right?

A loss would be devastating, but that goes beyond description.

So a single-digit win for Republicans. I think some of the things you got to learn from it is that Trump has to begin to campaign like he's on the ballot. I think he's got to go everywhere. I think that he travels and he's active. I get it, but he's not doing the rallies.

And you know what makes him a better president when he's out there? He doesn't necessarily need to go to an opposition meeting, but you know what he needs. He says he would judge by how people are feeling by the reaction he gets from crowds. Not everyone's got to be a 5,000-seat crowd, but you've started to see what people are working on, what they care about. When you say things that you think are big hits, and people, you bring up immigration.

Immigration at the border, popular. Immigration running through the streets with ice chasing them, not as popular.

So the president maybe doesn't agree with that. And maybe Grace doesn't agree that it's not as popular, but if he hears it. Then he'll begin to understand because nobody's more attuned to the American public than him. I think, just by the way, on the whole immigration running through the streets and so on and so forth, I think you look at the polls and it's pretty dead even across the country. I mean, we see the social media side of it, we see the protesters, we see these many of these paid protesters, we see the chaos because that's what the left media wants you to see is nothing but the chaos.

You don't see the success stories that we try to show. There's a lot of success. To your first point, you know, yeah, I think the president does need to come and show up at some of these things. He's busy. You know, he's busy and he's got a lot on his plate right now.

But for him to show up in person is a big motivating factor for any election, especially District 7 in Tennessee. You show up once, you show up twice, and all of a sudden people are back in the game.

So I totally agree with you that campaigning in person is a huge factor in all of this.

Well, let's talk about Venezuela. The president had a conversation with Maduro, at which time I was heartened to hear he basically didn't say, I'm thinking about doing a deal on your oil. He's saying, no, you got to go with your family, and you can go somewhere. And I believe Turkey would be the most logical place for him to go, judging by his relationship with Erdogan. Um Without that, I mean, this is going to get really dicey unless the president can pressure him out.

Don't you agree? Yeah, I mean, I think the president said two nights ago, he was on Air Force One, he was saying, listen, don't read into this. I mean, he had the meeting last night with his people talking about his generals, and he was talking about, listen, are we going to, what are we going to do about Venezuela? I don't think that you're going to see airstrikes today or tomorrow or maybe even next week, but they're giving him a little bit of time. There's no timeline.

I think they're giving Maduro some time. I think what they're doing is they're ratcheting up the pressure inside. The internal pressure in Venezuela gets to be a point where Maduro will make a decision on his own with a little bit of a nudge. And I think that's kind of what they're waiting for. It might take a week.

It might take 10 days. I think you're going to see some internal pressure ratchet up in the next 10 days. And I think that they think that Maduro is going to grab his family and go somewhere. And it's all about the military.

So, you know, where's the military? Made it clear, it's kind of different. Hey, the CIA is working inside Venezuela.

So, you know, he didn't make a clue.

So, we got to let the military know: look, you could be looking at war crimes, or you could be helping the transition to the rightfully elected party. Right. Not regime change. Right. I mean, listen, they have put all the signals in the right places, and he's been very open about this.

The president loves to be able to kind of say, Hey, I'm in charge, and here's why, and here's what we're going to do next. And by the way, we've got people in here, and we might have some people in here, who knows? But I think that's the whole concept here: that he's telling Maduro, just like Israel was in Iran, you know, saying, Mossad is in there. You might not see them, you might not believe they're there or know they're there, they're there. The CIA is in Venezuela.

Trump is kind of telegraphing that, and I think he's putting the signal out that it's time for you to at least think about packing up and heading somewhere else. Here's what General Jack Keynes said we can do now, and what's significant is who's not helping Maduro cut 18. The truth is, Maduro and Venezuela has three primary allies outside the region, Nicaragua and Cuba inside the region for sure. But there it's Russia. It's China?

And it's Iran. But for the most part, other than sending a Russian general in there to talk to Madur and likely to prop him up. They're not doing much here. They're maintaining their silence, those allies. And when Iran was under attack by Israel, the United States decisively supported it.

No material aid whatsoever from China, and they certainly had the capacity to do it.

So that's significant trace.

Well, I mean, listen, Iran's got its hands full, right? Iran is on its heels still from Israel. The running Russia is not a handful. That's right. Iran is kind of a mess right now.

And you see pictures in Iran of young people, the same, influential, not wearing any head coverings at all, out dancing, out doing things that you would never have seen 20 years ago. It's happening. Iran is on its heels, and they don't know what's going to happen there. You're not going to get help from Iran. Russia's got its handful.

China wants nothing to do with this Venezuela thing.

So it looks like Maduro was on his own. But we know that they loved having the influence in the region and spreading communism throughout the hemisphere.

So the big story is the second tap. On the airstrikes. On September 2nd, they want to say that Pete Hagseth, the Secretary of War, called for the second tap on the blown-up boat because it was survivors. Turns out, the New York Times does a report that says we talked to five different people. It wasn't Pete, it was an Admiral.

The President, Pete, comes out and says, I fully support the Admiral. The question is: How big a deal do you think the second strike on the survivors is? I think in the context, it's just the mission.

So, what happens is you have Pete Hags. You had the Washington Post coming out saying, Heg Seth did this. He ordered this. President says he didn't. Heg Seth says he didn't.

President says he believes him, I should have said. And then you have what happened is they had the second strike on September 2nd.

So Admiral Bradley conducts the second strike. That's just part of the mission. If there's no order from Heg Seth, the Washington Post said that General Bradley agreed to the order that Heg Seth gave him. If there was no order, the general was just doing the mission. That's it.

The mission was to go after the boat. The mission was to take the boat out because you cannot leave a boat drifting with the drug still on board because somebody else is going to pick it up. That's the mission. If there's no illegal order from the top or order from the top, there's nothing for the general to do except the mission.

So I asked Secretary of State Pompeo today. If you're going to kill Salimani in Iraq, and he survived the first hit. You leave more on? You pick him up, you arrest him. You finish him.

We talked about this with two Navy SEALs on the show last night. What do you do? And they say, listen, if you go after a tank and you don't destroy the tank, you go back again. If you go after a boat and you believe there are weapons or something on there that you think is nefarious, you take it out. That's the mission.

It has nothing to do with going back after survivors. It is completing the mission. That's it. If the order is not given, if the Washington Post screwed this up, which it looks like they did, and the order was not given by Pete Hegset, that is the key to the whole thing. The Geneva Convention says by denying quarter or aid to the wounded, You could be in violation of their rights, which seems to be the Democrats are worried about that.

But were they worried about Barack Obama, who did it 585 times? Do you know what the U at Human Rights Watch has in common with Amnesty International and with a study by Stanford and NYU? They talked about double-tap hits during the Obama administration, mostly in Pakistan and Afghanistan. I didn't see any Democrat protesting Barack Obama, did you? Did you see any Democrats protesting Barack Obama when he deported?

all those people, the deporter-in-chief? No, there was no protest. There was no protest for a lot of things Obama did, but Obama's not Trump. Trace protests. Tonight at 11 Eastern Time, I'm going to see an outnumbered.

Is that what you're wearing? This is what I'm wearing. I'm going to put a tie on. I think they're going to be happy. I'm going to put a tie on tonight.

I think you should. It's going to be a couch. Thanks, Brian. Thanks so much, Trace Gallagher. Thanks so much for joining us.

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The talk show that's getting you talking. You're with Brian Kilmeid. You told singers they'd invented a new form of torture. You made some fat jokes. You had a common one that they were the worst singer in America.

Lily, do we have to go through this? Yes, we have to go through it. And then the camera would sort of cut to people looking absolutely crushed. I mean, what is. The line do you think between bluntness and humiliation?

Yeah.

I've got to be honest with you. That's why I did change over time. I mean, I did realize I'd probably gone too far. And I don't need to be look, I was honestly I was just I was frustrated. I didn't particularly like I still don't like audition days because they're long and boring.

I would get fed up. And Of course, you know, out of a hundred nice comments, what are they going to use? He's so busy, he'll make your head spin. It's Brian Killmead. Donovan Hussains can hold the restoring.

It's London Donovan. Hold it. Let it fly in the car again. Stuart Honda in his second goal in three appearances for the full national team. Throws a shot, and the U.S.

gets ball number three here in the 89th league. Off they go. What a ball. Ladders. Ladas.

A wonderful strike. And there you go. That is getting you all pumped up of the World Cup and the big drawing on Friday. And I love the fact that unlike 94, unlike the launch of MLS in 96, unlike other World Cups. I no longer have to, I only have to, I don't have to go find soccer fans.

I find sports fans that they don't have to be former players. Like you walk around the United States and, you know, oh, I used to play, so you watch. Yeah, okay, I get it.

Now I'm seeing people that, yeah, I love football and I love soccer. I'm well, wait a second, really? That's what's happened in this country, and that's why it is so perfect, even though it was corruption that delayed this North American World Cup. We have FIFA World Cup 2026. The drawing happens at the Kennedy Center December 5th, and Fox Sports will cover it all with the best in the business.

Alexi Lawless, Hall of Famer, now Fox Sports soccer analyst. And we love when you come by, Alexei Lollis. Wow. That's awesome. You read it exactly the way I wrote it.

Right. How are you doing, buddy? Everything good? Yeah, it's great. You look great.

Are you working out or what? I mean, seriously, you look good.

Well, a little bit insulting, like, as if I started working out.

Well, you look better than normal. You look better than normal. Like, do you think that, like, you're saying to yourself, this guy could play again? Yeah.

I mean, you're in fighting shape, really. You look wonderful. Look, we live in interesting times. We live in wonderful times, as you mentioned, when it comes to soccer. And I think it's important that you mention it.

Don't let anybody tell you that we're not a soccer-playing nation or we're not a soccer culture. Yes, we're different. Yes, we are unique given our history. But I will put American soccer players, American soccer coaches, American soccer fans up against anybody in the world in terms of their knowledge, their education, and their passion out there. And yeah, we do things a little bit differently, but that's okay.

And the one, I don't want to dwell on this because I know you're promoing, but. The coaches thing is where I think we might be lacking. Do you agree with that? Out of everything you just said. Do you think that's stopping us from the great young player not being the great player?

Because we don't have the better coaching. No, I don't think it's a coach. As a matter of fact, I think we have really, really good coaches that have given the opportunity. And look, it's not an excuse, but there is a reality that when you are an American coach, People might look at you differently. And we've certainly gotten over that from a player perspective.

We have to get over it from a coaching perspective. I think there's still a lot of talent out there, coaching-wise.

So, before we talk about the U.S. team, can you tell everyone why the drawing is so exciting?

So, this Friday, 11:30 Eastern Time on Fox, myself and others will be down in D.C. at the Kennedy Center for the 2026 FIFA World Cup draw. Why is it so important? Biggest World Cup in history: 48 teams, 104 games with our friends to the North Canada, friends to South Mexico. But this is where it gets real: in that there's going to be those bowls and those balls, and people are going to be.

It's legitimately random. Oh, yeah.

Well, I mean, it's seated. It's seated, you know, all that kind of stuff. There's rankings of teams and all that kind of stuff. But we're going to find out who these teams are playing. And so, Christian Pulisic in the United States, we're going to find out who they're playing in their three group stage games.

We're going to find out Leo Messi, who in his own, you know, in his new neighborhood and backyard, who he is going to defend the World Cup with with Argentina. And who they're going to play. We're going to find out who Cristiano and Portugal are. And the list goes on and on and on.

So it gets, like I said, real very, very quickly. But it's also an entertainment extravaganza because there will be celebrities, there will be legends, there'll be music, there'll be comedians. Obviously, it'll be politics down there in D.C.

So there's something for everybody in that three and a half hour window to watch.

So the thing that's so different about this, I guess it's like the Field of City 64, I guess 68 now with college sports, but. I should know this. It's the biggest field ever. Four teams in a group still? Yes, 12 first two teams advance, and then four.

And then some best third-place teams will go.

So there's great opportunity to get out of the group. You should expect your U.S. team, regardless of what balls get pulled out or teams get pulled out on Friday, you should expect your U.S. team to advance from the UK. Are there firm seeds?

Ones, ones, and ones. Are the ones set? Yeah, no.

So it's based on rankings. There's pots. There's four different pots. Because we're hosting, we actually go to pot one, which has the likes of the elites. You know, you're talking about Spain and France and Argentina and stuff like that.

So we won't get drawn with them. That's a good thing, okay? There's still very good teams in pot two and three and four, but we will avoid some of the really, really good teams and the elite teams. Great.

So the theory is after that, matchups make everything. And for example, if you have these rugged matches, you might say, well, they're going to prevail. But what do they go through to get there? How healthy are you when you get to the knockout round? Exactly.

And they have red cards. You have injuries. You know, keep in mind. That this is in the summer in the United States. I don't have to tell you or anybody else, it's hot, and that takes a toll.

There are four indoor venues in the World Cup of the 11, sorry, so there's four: Dallas, Houston, Atlanta, and Vancouver are indoor and climate-controlled. And you will have an advantage, it will be a competitive advantage for the teams that get selected on Friday and Saturday to play in those indoor venues. Wow, it's so interesting, too, because I remember I think it was Brazil where the U.S. team had to travel huge distances. You have to get on a plane and go 3,000 miles.

How spread out is the country in the United States? They're trying to regionalize this World Cup and limit travel. For example, the United States is playing already, it's been decided, their three games: first game in LA, second game in Seattle, third game back in L.A. And then they could move around the country. But they don't want teams going back and forth and in different countries.

So they're trying to regionalize where the teams are playing. All right, so that'll be great. The other thing is the U.S. team. By almost all accounts, people say they're playing better and they're playing without their best player.

Christian Pulicek has. Decided not really to play that much as captain of the team. I know you were critical of him staying out of the Gold Cup. Were you surprised he wasn't playing against Paraguay? I just, look, it's easy for me to grump the old man the thing.

He is, I think, when all is said and done, going to go down as the greatest male American soccer player. He is heading in that direction. And he brings it when he's there. I just would want him there on a more consistent basis. But he will be there, and I think he will shine.

There's nothing better than a World Cup except a home World Cup. And Christian Pulissic or any of these players, you know, now these players talk about brands.

Well, there's nothing better in terms of enhancing your brand than at a home World Cup having a big World True.

So this is so interesting, and I don't follow like I used to, but for the longest time, if you go over, let's say Landon Donovan is playing for Everton in Britain. Like he always wanted to come back here, but he just wants to get better. Go over there. And it used to be like, well, there's an arrogance to those European leagues as it looks at Americans. But are Americans who have spent time in the European leagues arrogant towards their own country?

As if, I don't know if I want to go back and play American soccer for an American team. Like we used to think it's an honor. I think, and Mauricio Pochettino, who is the head coach, he actually just did an interview about this. And it was really interesting in the way that he talked about how, in the past, my generation, we needed the national team. To enhance our brand, enhance our opportunities.

And some of these players, like you mentioned, are playing at some of the great teams and leagues in the world. And it's not that they don't care, I don't want to say that, but. The relationship and the dynamic has changed and it's different. And so Pochettino, I think, has recognized that as a problem and has tried to foster a new relationship with your team. And indirectly with your country, because ultimately, you're walking on the field and representing what I think is the greatest country in the world.

You put your hand over your heart, you sing that national anthem, and win, lose, draw, you know, all that doesn't really matter ultimately because you're there to represent your country. And there has to be a pride that's involved, and there has to be a ruthlessness almost and a desire. I want to get on that plane, even if I'm going thousands of miles back because I want to represent that country. Alexia, I don't remember what you guys did, but I always see our opponents much more enthusiastic about their country than the men's team. They don't seem pumped up to hear the national anthem like I'm watching these other guys, older than, most of them are older than our team, showing that child pride for their country.

Are we going to get that? Do we sense a lack of nationalism? Are they as divided as many in this country are? I think at times it absolutely has manifested in a lack of caring. And whether that's the truth or just the perception that we have, doesn't matter.

If we look at this team and we say, well, it doesn't look like they care. And whether it's in the from the national anthem to when the whistle blows on the field. And you've said that. I mean, you've said that at a half time and in the game. I don't know what success or that Picture of the player and team that we want looks like.

It's kind of like the obscenity from the Supreme Court. I can't tell you what it is, but I know it when I see it. And we will know it when we see it next summer. From the moment they walk on the field, the pride that they show in representing their country that oftentimes manifests during the game, but it's even there during the national anthem. And I don't want to harp too much on the national anthem, but it is a moment.

And it is an important moment. And I'll tell you a quick story. Panama went to the World Cup a few World Cups before. And I'll never forget watching the Panamanian players as the camera went down the line during that national, tears streaming down their face. It didn't matter whether they were going to win or lose.

It was that they had that moment to represent the country that is near and dear to them in front of a global audience. And I hope that that's not lost on these players and on this team. I don't think it is, and I think it will kick in maybe into overdrive next summer during the World Cup. Are they playing better? Yes.

I'm much more bullish about this team than I was even a few months ago. We're heading in a better direction. But whatever method to Pochatino, the head coach's madness, I'm starting to see. A method, but ultimately, it's not going to matter until that whistle blows, and then that's all he and this team is going to be doing.

So, the one thing that was great for me is that you, I saw the same 25 players for like 12 years, right? I saw you, Balboa, Winalda, and Cardio Reyna. I saw these guys, you know, somewhere in and out, get new players in.

Okay, Kobe Jones comes off the bench. Is that a story?

So, I got to know you because there was no pro league, right?

So, you guys were playing all the time. I wasn't pulling you, they weren't being pulled from too many other places. I didn't realize what an advantage that was. That was a huge advantage.

Now it's a smaller pool, I guess. True. Not many players could play at your level in the country. But now you really have a lot of options and players are all spread out. Hard to get them back, hard to play the same style, hard to develop that camaraderie where you got everybody's back.

Yeah, when I stepped on the field in 1994, I had never been on the books of a club team, which is completely not the way it happens. I was 24 years old, 23 years old, and I had never played in a professional social media. Yeah, basically, basically. But all my experience was international because, to your point, we didn't have Major League Soccer. We didn't have those opportunities.

Look, I am incredibly proud, a proud old soccer. papa, if you will, at all of these opportunities and all these advantages. And they don't have to go through the crap that we all did. That's what you want. You want it in a better situation.

And it certainly is. But you hope that as that happens, they don't lose the lust and the wonder and the joy and the pride of representing their country at what I feel is the greatest. Platform, which is the World Cup. You also have the MLS Championship coming up. Yes, Saturday.

So I'm going to go from here down to New York, or down to D.C. for the draw on Friday, and then I'm going to get on a plane immediately and go down to Miami for MLS Cup.

So a big soccer week.

So this is, I know you don't like to, leagues don't like to say that, but it really works for the league. The biggest player, the most attractive team, the most expensive team, with the best player, most famous player in the world who hasn't slipped much. No, right? At 30 minutes. Messi's the real deal.

So they're playing for a championship. They won't 4-0 in the semifinal. Oh, they're crushing it. And Messi is absolutely the MVP. His dad's the GM.

He's just, he's amazing what he does because it's one thing to be a superstar, but the reason why you're a superstar is when everybody's expecting you to do magical things, you still do it. And he brings it each and every time with this inter-Miami team that is kind of this super club, a team that's more people will kind of tune in to watch fail than to win, you know, your Cowboys and your Yankees. But every league and sport needs that. The villains, all. You know, pretty in pink with the way they look.

They're a really good team. But I'll tell you what, Vancouver, which is their opponent on Saturday, they don't care about Messi. They don't care about the money that they've spent or the names that they have. Vancouver is very, very comfortable with themselves, so it's a really good matchup.

So I'm going to take a short timeout unless you have to run. No, I don't. I'm so glad you're not unoutnumbered. You'd be a great guy. Have you ever done outnumbered?

No? I don't think so. What the hell's the problem? Get me on outnumbered. Come on.

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So that is the President of the United States making another statement that he's pumped up for the World Cup. He helped get it here, and now he's going to be president when it is here. Alexei Lawis is a Fox Sports soccer lead analyst. He's going to be covering the MLS Cup on Saturday. It's Saturday or Sunday?

Yeah, MLS Cup is Saturday. The FIFA draw is on Friday.

Okay, and what time is that game? Do you remember? I can't remember, but it's down in Miami, so don't worry. It's going to be great. And Fox is going to have it.

On Big Fox, yep.

So the FIFA World Cup, the draw begins at 11.30. The coverage starts at 11.30 on Fox. Eastern. When do we start making the draw and setting up the groups?

So I know you're into the big pregame show.

So there's a lot of production. There's a lot of, like I said, glitz and glamour that's going to happen with the draw until they actually get to the balls and the drawing out of the bowls. But, you know, I think... Like I said, even if you're not into soccer, I think there is something for everybody in this. And the music, I mean, we were just seeing President Trump there.

I think when all is said and done when it comes to President Trump, that he's going to go down as the soccer president, just in terms of the amount, the volume, and just the consistency of soccer that emanates from him and the White House and obviously the Oval Office. He constantly talks about soccer. He is invested. He's a smart politician. He understands the platform and the opportunity and responsibility that a World Cup and the Olympics, to be fair, understands soft power.

Maybe better than anyone, and I think he will be all over the World Cup. I mean, he was in for the FIFA World Club Championship. I was in the box that day and had a chance to see his passion. Look at you.

Okay. Oh, did I let that slip? No, thanks to Sean Duffy. He got me in there. You know, most of Fox works.

I know, listen, I know. June 11th to July 19th. But I got to see, I'm listening to his questions about the game and how zoned in he is about. He wanted to know the nuances of all of it. Also, his brother Robert was a big guy in soccer in the Westchester area, and his son Baron, who's now 6'11, I think.

Yeah.

Big soccer player. He was a player over the DC United, I think, the DC United Academy team. And you just mentioned, too, the Red Bulls are about to hire maybe one of the greatest American soccer players ever, Michael Bradley, as head coach. That's the rumor right now. He's just kind of gone through the ranks of coaching, so it's kind of a logical type of progression.

And, you know, as an older guy, it's fun to see some of these players that you saw, that you commentated on, kind of grow into the next phase of their life.

So if that ends up happening, either way, I think Michael Bradley's going to be a really good coach. Did you play for his dad? Yes, at one point I did, and I was with him at the MetroStars years and years ago. Great coach, right? Yes, great coach.

Players loved him. Him and Bruce Arnold. Unbelievable at Virginia. Yep, and he's one of the OG types of American soccer coaches, along with guys like Bruce Reno.

So, through a translator, Messi does an interview, and he just says he's kind of waiting for the MLS to decide they want to spend like all the big leagues. When does the math make sense for them to do it and not just have Messi, but have other fantastic, well-known players?

So keep in mind that Major League Soccer is just finishing its 30th year, okay? And it's the most successful professional soccer league in North American history. Having said that, it could be so much better.

So I want. MLS. To do big, bold things. I want a moonshot. I want the ownership to say we are going to attempt to be the best league in the world, most popular league in the world.

But in order to do that, you have to be able to compete. I don't know when that's going to happen because keep in mind, MLS, the business structure is with manufactured parity, single entity, which limits the amount that you can spend. And yeah, that creates competition and parity, but there are some owners that want to spend. And they're making a mockery of the cap because when you see Messi's. I mean, it's fluid by nature and flexible by nature.

And Lexi, lastly, they're going to change when the season starts.

So it's going to be like the rest of the world is going to start in the fall, but you take it on football.

Well, yeah. And you're playing in some cold weather areas and stuff like that. But you want to align. Look, as proud as I am of what American soccer is, it's also playing a sport that's played all over the world.

So that's part of what makes it fun, and we have to respect that. And I think getting on that schedule will help. Is there a chance the ponytail comes back along with the future? Would that I could, my friend? It was such, it was a lot of hair ago, but this is the.

I'm trying. I'm trying. Very impressive. Alexi Lowlis, can't wait to see you in action Friday and Saturday. It's going to be fun.

All right. It's really all about you. No, you're the best. You've been soccer through and through for years and years.