Two years later: Israeli hostages yet to return home

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York City. Always seeking solutions, never sowing division. It's Brian Kilmead. Hi, everyone.

So glad you're here. The Brian Kilmey Show coming your direction. A lot going on, a lot of balls in the air today. And, you know, of course, any minute, supposed to hear the latest from what's happening over in Egypt. Today, Pam Bondi is going to be testifying in front of the Senate Judiciary Committee.

He's going to be talking about everything from what's going on with the National Guard and the Blue Cities to James Comey. The Epstein files, I'm sure every Democrat's going to want to talk about that until, of course, they really get into it. They realize how many Democrats are involved in that. But we digress. Senator Bill Cassidy is standing by.

Jackie Heinrich at the bottom of the arrow.

So now let's get to the big three. Number three. This is what you said at the time about that particular shutdown. Here it is. We are willing to take what Senate Republicans have done.

in order to reopen the government.

So that we no longer are holding 800,000 federal workers hostage. Yes, that was on the Today Show, another failed attempt to end the shutdown as the center remains five votes shy of opening up the government. And now air travel becomes the first public service that I could see showing signs of stress and inconvenience for us. Number two. The right wing in this country.

want to rematch of the Civil War. I just want that to sit in right now because the President of the United States of America has declared war on the people of Chicago. That is one of the most irresponsible things you will ever hear, but I should expect it from the mayor of Chicago. Ice clash in Chicago and Portland as the National Guard streams into the second city. Number one.

Today marks two years since the brutal Hamas terror attack on Israel that killed around 1,200 people. As Israelis remember that awful day, there is still some hope that a deal to end the war and release the remaining hostages is actually in sight. Two years since the October 7th attacks, and we are finally at the cusp, perhaps, of getting hostages back, all of them, and possibly ending the fighting in Gaza. Yet, demonstrations around the world are almost all anti-Israel, even though they were the victims of this Hamas massacre. It's simply twisted.

And I'm, you know, Senator Cassidy, this is too much for me to ask of anybody, but can you make sense of that? That I'm going to see protests all through New York City as I go to the subway or the train for Hamas, against Israel. I mean Two years later. That is an incredible twisted interpretation of what happened over there, Brian. Thanks for having me on.

But two years to the day in which people at a peaceful outdoor holiday concert were interrupted with gunshots, rape, murder, beheadings. And by the way, they specifically targeted kibbutz that had been established to bridge differences between Palestinians and Israelis. That is being lost in the kind of overall worldwide sympathy for Hamas. Let's end the war, but also let's have a correct perspective. Absolutely.

So, with this shutdown, as we move something a little bit more towards what you work on on a daily basis, but Senator, has there been a move at all to talk to some Democrats that might want to come your direction? You just need five additional ones. It seems as though there's no effort to try to get Osoff, who has to win in a Red State, or Gary Peters, who's going to retire, or Gene Cheheen, who they say is the most logical person in the Senate. Has there been any effort there?

So, I've not made such an effort because right now, frankly, Schumer is holding them. Schumer's holding the strings. This is a Schumer shutdown. Schumer could release four of them, it could happen easily.

So you're asking people to break from Schumer. That might be, you'd have to dangle something pretty tempting.

Now, by the way, Republicans, you know, can't just sit by passively. We've got to be thinking, how do we change this dynamic? But one way is to help people understand this is a Schumer shutdown. All we're asking for is seven weeks of the current budget going forward so that we can continue to talk on the issues that are important.

So, the whole focus now with Democrats, they say the reason they're doing this is to prevent the Medicaid cuts. But these Medicaid cuts came from the rescue plan because it increased eligibility as well as subsidies. Right now, Medicaid, people are getting Medicaid who are 400% over the poverty level, some making six-figure incomes. You're a doctor, so you want everyone. You know, the problems with hospitals have to treat everybody, and if you don't have insurance, where are they going to get the money?

I understand that. But this is not what Medicaid was intended for. But politically, it's not easy to bring that up, correct?

So, how do you straddle it?

So Things, Brian. One, there is Medicaid, which was part of the tax cut for working families bill, and the other are the subsidies on the exchanges, which is about, I don't know, 6% of the American population.

So they are complaining about both.

So we've got to be careful, we've got to be considerate of high health care cost. but the subsidies have made high health care cost worse.

Now let that sink in. In fact, no, let's kind of channel a Washington Post article, editorial, which said recently that the Affordable Care Act failed. that in a sense, the health care has become so expensive, it requires large subsidies for the policies the Affordable Care Act was supposed to make affordable. This is all upside down. What Republicans need to do, go back to square one.

How do we actually make health care more affordable no matter who's paying? And particularly for those small businesses that right now are getting caught in the updraft of high health care costs, let's lower health care costs for everybody, and that's going to take, I think, a more conservative approach than what the Democrats are proposing. But you're not going to get that done in three weeks.

Well, it may not, but believe me, there's things you can do pretty simply. Not simply, but we know what to do to lower those costs. I'm hoping Democrats will join us, but right now they've got to reopen the government. I mean, for the longest time, you guys are in the minority, and it was like, hey, we're going to shut this down. You're not going to get your 60 votes, and Republicans get the blame.

Now it's Democrats in the minority. You're not going to get your 60 votes. And in a Washington Post poll, 38% blame Republicans, 30% blame Democrats. How does that sit with you?

Well, I'd like to know who they're polling, number one. But number two, Chuck Schumer is the one that points out. That 13 times under Biden, that there was an extension of a current budget to allow more negotiations, and every time Republicans supported those. Those all 13 of those. We have shown in the past that we will support continuing to negotiate.

They are showing that no, they want what they want and they want it right now, and they're going to stamp their little foot upside up and down in order to get it.

So, let's open the government, continue our negotiations, we can do what is right. All right. I know you have a few more minutes. There's something you guys are still working, and you're working on something to make sure the labor laws are modernized. The Help Committee has got a hearing today on fixing a century-old labor law to strengthen American rights in the workplace, and you're teaming with Teamsters President Sean O'Brien to bring this forward.

Where are we? archaic in when it comes to labor laws. Think about the gig economy. Think about the Uber, the Lyft driver, the person who's working as a contractor, as an engineer for a firm that just needs two months of work. That was not anticipated 100 years ago.

We need to have something now, which is updated to today's modern economy, good for the worker, good for business, good for U. S. international competitiveness. Your laws that are one hundred years old don't bring us there. We need to hear from everybody to figure out how to go forward.

So, for example, what's going to be in there? Are you guys actually having a hearing to work it out? Or do you have an idea of giving maybe gig workers who are banned in some cities where they feel unions feel as though they're detrimental, who are forced to get insurance or whatever the situation is? What would you see as a way to address some of these new challenges or the new changes in modern law?

Okay. latest of a series of hearings. One bill that we have proposed Is that is that? If you are a gig worker, and you're working for Lyft and Uber and DoorDash. that those three companies would be able to contribute to your 401k and to your health insurance policy without becoming your employer.

You stay your independent contractor status. You set your own hours. You can show up and leave whenever you want to. but they can still contribute to your retirement and to your health care. That's kind of modernizing how we approach labor laws.

That's good for the worker, it's good for the business. Understood. I just want to also bring you to Health and Human Services. Do you regret your vote for RFK Jr. as chairman?

You know, I um Um I'm really forward.

So RFK is doing some good things on things like ultra processed food. I disagree with them strongly on restricting access to things like the COVID vaccine, making it more difficult for people to get not talking about mandates, but making it more difficult for someone who wants a COVID shot to get the COVID shot. which I think is kind of odd. Operation Warp Speed was President Trump's crowning achievement. He opened up an economy which was shut down.

He did it faster than anyone thought was possible. And we want the President to continue to have that kind of success. For whatever reason, the Secretary decides that he doesn't like the vaccine, he's going to make it more difficult for patients to exercise their choice. Right. And the one thing about it, though, Senator, you have such sway and I know he really respects you.

Would you just get in there and work with him rather than wait for the hearings? Are you picking up the phone and working with him? Absolutely.

We communicate regularly and have a meeting already scheduled. Great. Lastly, Sean Duffy on Transportation Secretary today. I know you got to run, but he says already, we saw Burbank without any air traffic controllers. We saw a few show up over in Newark.

We saw delays in Los Angeles and Denver and New Jersey. What are you hearing about what could be with this lockout? Are these air traffic controllers just not going to show up?

Well, right now they've not missed a paycheck. Because they're paid every two weeks.

So they've got paid at the end of last month. I'm hoping they continue to show up. I'm hoping that Schumer ends the shutdown because that way that air traffic will not be interrupted. By the way, we absolutely need them. There's a shortage already.

I don't think we should be making their life more difficult. Senator Bill Cassidy, I hear you. I hear the frustration. And I hope to talk to you again soon. Thanks, Brian.

You got it.

Meanwhile, bottom of the hour, Jackie Heinrich, and she'll bring us the latest from the White House. And she's also the host, co-host, the Rotating Anchor on Sunday briefing. Back in a moment. 1866-408-7669. Don't move.

Both sides, all opinions. It's Brian Killmeat. Hi, everyone.

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The more you'll know. It's Brian Kilmead. So far, the effects of the shutdown keep getting worse. Millions of Americans this morning feeling the pain, experiencing delays at airports. Food benefits to moms and young children could dry up in days.

And national parks and monuments are partially closed. I don't want to hardship, shame anyone, but there is a significant gap between partially closed monuments and your children will starve. Old people will be forced to eat their pets! And the Department of Treasury thermostats will have to be kept at 66. Wear a sweater.

I mean, really, who's taking a hit on the monument thing? This tourist David, all the way from Italy, saying Alcatraz was supposed to be the highlight of his visit to the bay. I feel no good. Mad because uh I uh I come from Italy for uh say Alcatraz, all the attraction and now we can then uh it's not good feeling uh not good. It's hysterical.

He was really good at it. He just, and you could tell the Democrats want to get rid of. Chuck Schumer because he eviscerated Chuck Schumer last night.

So that was also, you know, Mondays are good. I think that's an example, Allison. You thought SNL was funny at Top. I I think you load your bar so much.

Well, well I was laughing at one line, the Tylenol line. And and the Jane Goodall.

Okay. To Jon Stewart. I mean, you have an agenda through it, but there's funny. He just gets funny. Uh I mean I I'm not well with everything but you could just tell I just I think there's a huge difference.

And like you look at John Oliver, just angry. I mean, I don't know who he called out last week, just okay. Yeah, we'll show for once a week and he just eviscerated different Republican every week. We'll see what happens. Do you want to hear him go after Fumer?

Oh, you have it? Looks good. New data came out today from KFF, and that is not Kentucky fried french fries. KFF. Could be Kentucky French fries.

Hydrofamily. I know. Orange. Yeah. Who is that joke even for?

Six-year-olds that watch C-SPAN? What the f are you doing? Trickschumer is a human flat tire. It's all right. But you know, it's just weird.

In comedy, The reason why they go after Chuck Schumer is they want him out. Like he would never go after A. O. Sake. He would never go after Mamdami.

He'd he'd go after Kwama. He would go out to Cuomo. That means that Schumer's giving him a lot to work with. I mean, that was the stupidest joke ever. Yes.

Right. There was one beforehand. He was like shaking his hands. It was just too visual for radio, and he ripped him on that, but it. Again, it wouldn't have worked here, but.

This was just the second half of it, but I mean, Schumer just really does give him a lot to go with. Yeah. And that's what they were talking about. But, like, here's an example of why everything is upside down. I mean, you can't count on comedy anymore.

That's one thing. The other thing is, you can't count on logic. Obviously, October 7th, this horrific story where a bunch of innocent people were massacred who happen to be, ironically, so pro-Palestinian and were helping in Gaza Strip. They end up being targeted and over a thousand people killed in the most brutal way possible, 200 plus taken hostage. And you would think around the world there will be a moment of silence, a series of recognition, people holding up pictures of the hostages or those who lost their lives during the unprovoked attack.

Instead, I'm getting all these messages in New York: hey, there's going to be a protest here, there's going to be a protest there. Try to avoid the subways today, try to avoid the trains. Protest, not against Hamas, a terror group, but against a bunch of people protesting against Israel, the only democracy and our ally in the region, because they say they didn't, I guess, want, and this is a day after, before even the attacks in Gaza started, they didn't want any retaliation or they feel as though they understood proportional retaliation. Really? Two years since the October 7th attack, think about how much progress they have made for humanity.

With the Pager attack followed up by the Walkie-Talkie attack, Hezbollah. When you talk about taking out the nuclear program or retarding it for a few years, Iran. When you talk about neutralizing the Houthi rebels to the point where you can open up the strait again, you have great progress when it comes to Houthi rebels. And when it comes to Hamas, we killed all that. They killed the Israelis have killed almost all their leadership, but they've paid a big price: 1,142 IDF deaths.

Now, other people have died. I don't believe anybody's numbers. I don't believe anybody denying anybody aid. Hamas is denying people aid. And, you know, we're going to talk to a former hostage at some point in our show.

And at what point in his story, they talk about being above ground for the first 50 days and then going underground. Do you know where the door was to their underground tunnels? In a mosque, the Do you know where the other doors are in hospitals and in schools? And now you want to fault the IDF for targeting hospitals, schools, and mosques. I don't know.

Do you think you're being played? Does anyone have a brain? And you're targeting the UN aid organizations who are working for, and some say they took part in, the October 7th attacks? It is crazy. I am still hopeful to the 20-point plan that Trump outlined, led by Jared Kushner and Steve Witkoff, will be executed.

And as we move to Egypt, I'm looking for any morsel of information. This is what I hear from Al Jazeera. They say so far. All people of positive moving forward logistics to get all the hostages out at one time. Here's Dave Ignatius of the Washington Post, cut six.

This peace plan came together really because Kushner, with Trump's backing, took all the elements that Arab countries, Israel, all the players had been working on.

Sometimes for more than a year, and pushed them together and demanded. That they be acted on. Suddenly, this became a 20-point peace plan, Donald Trump's peace plan, but it was something that was pulled together really, as you say, over a weekend. And it was effective, and it doesn't say Palestinian state, two-state solution, and this is what it's going to look like. What they said is gradually pull back to a yellow line inside Gaza, let the fighting cease.

Here's the number of prisoners that are going to be let out. Sadly, it's way too high. And we get all the hostages out, including the bodies of the hostages that are still there. And then we talk about a peace body, and then it's going to transition to a transitional body. and then hopefully to Palestinian technocrats who don't want to kill people for a living.

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You're with Brian Kilmead. After five failed votes, it should be clear to Republicans that we cannot go forward. unless they sit down and seriously negotiate with Democrats. address the healthcare crisis. It's that simple.

The bottom line is that the American people know if they do layoffs, if they do rips, it falls on Donald Trump's shoulders. He's doing it, not Democrats. And the American people know that. Senator Chuck Schumer, not budging. He still has three defectors.

They get five more. They can go back to work. Then they've got to continue to do this. They'll do some votes today. That's what Chuck Schumer's saying.

Make my health care changes or we don't go back to work. And President Trump, as far as I could tell, not engaged. And I think that's the preference of leadership, to leave him out of this and focus on other things. I think that that might be the plan. And I think he's okay with that.

Jackie Heinrich, Senior White House correspondent, Rotating Anchor on Sunday briefing. She's up this week. Hey, Jackie, what are your thoughts hey, what are your thoughts about Chuck Schumer's opinion? He says is if they start cutting jobs, it's on Trump. Yeah.

Well, you listen to that, and the spin is just incredible because you have Senate Democrats. who have voted now five times. Against a bill in the Republican side to reopen the government, the same bill that passed the House. Including with a couple of their colleagues, by the way, who voted in support of it. I think Schumer Is outwardly maintaining this sort of appearance of defiance, but I'm not sure how long it lasts because you can play the tape.

God knows how many times you've heard Democrats arguing against. Closing down the government because of any sort of political dispute. And his whole, the only thing he has in that clip that I think might have the White House's attention is the layoff question. Because we were told initially, you know, the Democrats are closing down the government, and therefore we're going to have to do all these mass layoffs. You haven't seen the layoffs come to pass yet.

And you did see messaging that was a little bit uneven from the White House. On the one hand, they were saying, unfortunately, we're going to have to talk about these layoffs because the Democrats won't open the government. On the other hand, you had the President sort of echoing Russ's vote, saying, What an opportunity to cut the waste, fraud, and abuse. Can't believe that they handed me this golden chance to cut more federal workers.

So I think that they took a step back from that and they are letting, rightly, Democrats sort of. Stewing their own juice over whether or not they can actually get on board with a bill to reopen the government. Because all they have in the meantime is just to repeat what is. Flatly wrong that there is, you know, the Republicans are not opening the government. That's just not true.

So, Jackie, the one thing that I think will affect American people and maybe put more of a more rush to get some type of answer or to restart the government is if you start saying that planes aren't landing on time or not landing at all and that fights are canceled and already we're seeing a slowdown with air traffic controllers. Listen to Secretary of Transportation Sean Duffy, 43. In a job that's already stressful, This shutdown has put way more stress on our controllers at a time. When they're already working on equipment from the 1960s, 1980s, 1990s, we ask them to do their jobs on equipment that has not been state of the art. We ask them to do their jobs on old equipment.

and keep our airports uh our airports operational. At a time when they don't have the best equipment at their disposal. And so I wanted to hear them out. I wanted to hear their concerns. And make sure that those who shut the government down, I want to make sure that Chuck Schumer.

and Hakeem Jeffries know that it's this is not consequence free. And so far, we see that there was no air traffic controllers in Burbank. There seems to be a shortage again in New Jersey, and there were delays in Denver and Los Angeles. Don't you believe that that's a the whole different type of challenge that will get both sides' attention? I think people are going to start getting impatient when they start missing paychecks, when their travel gets jeopardized, like you just mentioned in the clip you just played from Sean Duffy, when the SNAP funding runs out and women can't buy their baby formula.

I think that the sort of pressures are going to start compounding the longer this goes on. space where you might see a negotiation. The President signaled open to this yesterday openness to this yesterday. He said we could do a deal on the Obamacare subsidies.

Now the Democrats want to extend the expanded you know, COVID era subsidies. Uh Republicans are going to also be facing some pressure to do some sort of an extension. Because if they don't, it is true that you're going to have letters going out at the end of this month, next month, through the end of the year, because all these health companies are setting their rates for next year. And they're going to have people in their districts that are getting letters saying that their premiums are increasing. And so that is one space where they might be able to have a negotiation.

There's still. You know, a sort of gap between the Senate and the House on this issue. Mike Johnson saying in the House, Look, we've done our job, we passed a bill, we don't need to talk about this. The subsidies don't expire actually till the end of the year. Let's have this discussion when the government is open.

In the Senate, you may need to have a bit of a discussion ahead of time. At least that's what Soon has been hearing from his constituents or his members in that chamber. And the president said yesterday, We could probably do a deal on that. It would have to be the right deal.

So maybe not a wholesale approval of the COVID era levels, but some sort of a negotiation because the Democrats are correct when they say that people will have their. Their premiums go up if we don't resolve this. And the Republicans know that too. The question is just, When do we do this? Is it with the government closed while the Democrats hold this whole process hostage?

Or is it reasonable once the government reopens and we can actually do some real policy work.

So do you believe that Republican leadership wants to keep it uh to between Republicans and Democrat leadership in in the House and Senate and they don't really want the President involved in this to keep him out of it for now? I think that they're giving a little more time To the to you know, letting Democrats sort of twist in the wind. Um There is no advantage right now to engaging for them yet because Democrats have not. of their demands. As of you know yesterday, they're still voting on the bill in the in the Senate.

The Democrats' alternative that would repeal the entire Big Beautiful Bill healthcare title. That is the same. legislation that the Republicans have been saying all along prioritizes health care for illegal immigrants. There are nuances to that. There are different avenues through which the money can go to benefit both.

Undocumented or lawful non-citizens and illegal immigrants. But point being, you know, the Democrats have not come up with a better proposal yet. And so, They really need to change their demand because you're not seeing any Republicans move off of their support to reopen the government. It's just a waiting game at this point. Who blinks first?

Right. And right now, people can get Medicaid who are above 400% of the poverty level. That was done during the American Rescue Plan during the pandemic. There are people in households making six figures that are getting Medicaid. That's not what it was intended for.

But they raised the bar on eligibility during the pandemic. According to reports, the pandemic's over, and that's what the Republicans are trying to get across. That's right. And I think that there will be some sort of a negotiation on the Obamacare subsidies. But I'm not sure it'll end up being that COVID level expanded.

Subsidy. Um Understood. We'll see what happens. We'll see who can message this better and we'll see if we get an end to this this week. And then if they just finish their appropriation spells on time, in theory, we wouldn't have this problem ever.

But Jackie, I want to bring you to the other big story, and that's what's happening over in Egypt. They're trying to bring back all the hostages and finally end the fighting with Hamas. And the 20-point plan is having trouble finding Critics. And I noticed that. No matter what they were talking about with Trump, and they say their normal stuff with the administration, I understood it.

When it came to talking bad stuff about this plan and the possibilities to get the hostages out, very few critics. And this struck me. This is what Andrea Mitchell said, one of the president's biggest critics. The important thing is that Hamas is now really isolated. The Arab countries all came together in New York when they were here for the UN meetings with the president.

That is a huge factor. And partly that's because of Israel's biggest mistake, which was to attack Qatar. This united the Arab world. It infuriated President Trump. For the first time, we're seeing President Trump really putting pressure on Netanyahu to stop the bombing.

When he said that, it was very significant.

So this could be transformational. And if this were to work out, and it would be the Abraham Accords, it would be recognition of Israel, transform the whole region. President Trump would deserve that Nobel Prize. Do you hear that? I mean, are people kind of.

Uh Kind of surprised that he put up to with a plan that's got so much Arab buy-in, Israeli buy-in, and maybe Hamas.

Well, I think she's correct in saying that the support of the Arab world for a deal now and to not waste time and let this, you know. keep sort of Evolving this two-year-long war. I think she's right in saying that the strikes and cutter and You know, brought us to this point. You heard the president after those strikes, even though they were very upset. It destabilized the region, threatened the Abraham Accords.

The messaging out of the White House at that point was: we think this is an opportunity, actually. And no one could really understand what they meant by that.

Now we're starting to see what they meant.

Sort of a united voice from the US and from these Arab countries to Netanyahu to be like, look, it's time. You gotta make a decision. We've gotta negotiate something. And Hamas also recognizing that the long arm of Israel is not gonna stop reaching for them if they don't.

Now, I I don't know if it is A good enough deal for Israel, especially as we've been hearing very little from. Hamas about what what they're trying to get changed. We heard right after the 20-point plan was announced that there were intense negotiations happening, which would suggest that maybe some of those 20 points were up for review. Don't know what they are, don't know if that's acceptable to Israel. There were some big differences between what DB said he would accept and what was in that plan, at least as it was initially reported, including a role for the Palestinian Authority in the future governance of Gaza.

But the president, you know. took a hard line with with Israel. We understand from his his meetings with Netanyahu, what was it, last Monday? And then the discussions after the cutter strikes. And he wants to get this deal done.

And so we'll see how it works out. But it it depends on if Israel is asked to give up too much also.

So there's on this podcast hosted by Jason Tardick called Trading Secrets. He had Caitlin Collins on, and they talked about something you could probably relate to: the challenges. of traveling with the President, this President, Donald Trump. I did Fox and Friends finance segment, and it was just on Gen Z's and finance. And one of the executive producers, like, we just want to show you around.

And they showed me the control room. And I said, How have things been in the control room as of late? She's like, None of us are sleeping because the president doesn't sleep. We're all working two times right now. Do you feel that I was just talking to someone about this because we wrote this story on what traveling with him is like in the first term?

Because I had this source who said, You never want to be on Air Force One on a trip. And I said, Why? Like, you'd think you want to be in the axis of power close to Trump. He doesn't sleep on these trips. And like, you know, you're going to Asia or something, and that's kind of the only time you're going to sleep before you go on this trip.

Yeah. But Trump is just always up and talking. And he'll like have them go wake staff up if they're asleep because he wants to talk to them. And so we have this big trip to Asia coming up. And, you know, you're just, you're not going to sleep on that flight.

Your thoughts, can you add to that? I agree on one point. You don't want to be on Air Force One on the trip to Asia, but it's not because he doesn't sleep. It's because the chairs don't recline. It's an uncomfortable flight.

But, you know, she's right that the president is up at all hours. You know, this Brian working on your show so early in the morning and late at night in One Nation, you know, round the clock, there's something to cover. I think it's exciting. I think that it's, you know, one of the highlights of my career is covering this president. Every day is something new.

Today we're the pool. We'll be in the Oval Office. It's a privilege and an opportunity to witness history from the front row. But these trips are busy. And we do have a big one coming up at the end of the month.

Looks like it might be three countries and A lot of news coming out of that.

So we're excited. Yes. So take the challenge and give up the sleep and try to get chairs to recline. Jackie, thanks so much. Do you know who's going to be on the briefing yet?

Or too early? It's only Tuesday. That's too. It's a little early right now. We've got some irons in the fire, but we'll let you know when we got confirmation.

Sundays at 11 o'clock. Jackie Heinrich, six days a week. Thanks, Jackie. Appreciate it. Thanks, Brian.

All right, we're going to come back and finish up with some phone calls, or if you'd rather write BriankillMe.com. We also did not talk about this yet, and that is Texas National Guard heading to To Chicago, while a judge stopped the National Guard from going to Portland. It didn't stop the singing, though. Brian Kilmicho. Learning something new every day on the Brian Kilmead Show.

Radio that makes you think. This is the Brian Kill Me Show. A couple of years ago. I I I said very candidly, Bye. The right wing in this country.

One's a rematch of the Civil War. I just I want that to sit in right now because the President of the United States of America has declared war on the people of Chicago and people across America. Just such an irresponsible statement, and could not be more inaccurate. And plus, do you realize the right wing of the country? There was the Republicans led by Abraham Lincoln who tried to bring the country back together and war was the only option.

So you might want to get your history straight. Number two, since when does rounding up criminals and illegal immigrants mean you want a civil war? People that don't belong here, that have committed crimes, are being rounded up with no help from the local police. That, to me, is the insubordination. It should be unconstitutional to have a sanctuary city that goes against federal policy.

You know, but I don't have that legal degree, and I don't think Mayor Brandon Johnson does, nor do I think anybody is holding this guy responsible for those types of statements. Pritzker is the same way. Listen to this: cut 12. I refuse to let Donald Trump. Christy Noam and Gregory Bovino continue on this march toward autocracy.

Their plan all along has been to cause chaos. The state of Illinois is going to use every lever at our disposal to resist this power grab and get Nome's thugs the hell out of Chicago. I'm not afraid. I am not afraid.

Okay, just a little bit. And we can stop it there. Number one, you'd be afraid. What are you afraid of? Why is that a big deal?

You're not afraid. You're sitting there with Federal Guards living in a beautiful section. Your family's multi-billionaire. You never had to work a day in your life. What do you have to be afraid of?

No one's targeting you. And by the way, for the record, he is calling ICE thugs. He's calling ATF thugs. He's calling Border Patrol thugs. Is that okay with you?

Just think about that. Don't tell me about Donald Trump's popularity when it comes to illegal immigrants in our midst. Just remember in your mind the overflow from the Roosevelt Hotel in New York City and know there were 35 other hotels like that. And keep in the back of your mind what O'Hare Airport looked like, as it looked like a big slumber party with illegal immigrants scattered all over. Guess who's paying for their food and for their shelter?

You were paying for all that. No one cared about that. Nobody said how irresponsible it was. Yeah, we were saying it, but nobody else did.

Now it's up to this president to come up and clean up that mess. Many of those people were fought-out criminals.

Now we know an organized effort from Venezuela to send TDA here and market drugs full circle. You have a president rounding it up with no rounding these people up with no help from these blue cities.

Now in Memphis you have, and in D.C., you have Democratic mayors, but you have a governor in Tennessee who needs help in Memphis, and he's getting it and liking it. The mayor's not stood in his way to his credit, and she is not standing in the way in Washington, D.C., and they're getting results. And it's coming from federal dollars. Yet you have somebody saying the president wants to reignite a civil war. They're looking for illegal immigrants.

That includes all nationalities. But they are looking for T D A in particular, and yesterday they picked up a member of the Latin Kings, a gang who's allowed to thrive in Chicago, who put bounties on the head of ICE officials. They'll pay you $10,000 to kill one. We put a stop to that. is that those thugs, in his terms, put a thor a stop to that.

Brian, kill me, Chill. Make sure you keep it here. From the Fox News Radio Studios in Midtown Manhattan. It's the fastest growing radio talk show. Brian Kilmead.

From 48th and 6th in Midtown Manhattan, heard around the country, around the world. This is the Brian Kill Meet Show. With this hour, we'll be joined by Senator Steve Daines. We'll do a simulcast with Stuart Varney on FBN. We're looking at a series of things.

You know, it's not like the Senate isn't working. Pam Bondi is on Capitol Hill. Of course, every Democrat wants to bring up the Epstein situation and what's going on in these cities. And she's more than happy to talk about fighting crime in these cities and the lack of cooperation with the sanctuary cities.

So it's explosive. We'll keep you up to date on that. But with me now in studio is Douglas Murray. And Douglas, always great to see you, but especially today, two years since the October 7th attack. And you know what I'm getting memos about?

Be aware of the protest as you leave the building for the Palestinians, for Hamas condemning the Israelis.

Now, in your book, you write about that. A day or two after, or that day of October 7th, when the massacres taking place are just completed, already Hamas was getting supporters in Times Square in New York.

So this shouldn't surprise you, but I am horrified by it. Yeah, I described that in my recent book on democracies and death cults that uh on the eighth of October I went down to Times Square. Here in the center of New York, and there were hundreds and hundreds of people celebrating the massacres. supporting Hamaz. The massacres were still going on on the eighth of October.

There were still Hamaz terrorists inside Israel slaughtering people. and we saw at the beginning of this war A disgusting problem that is a problem not for Israel, but for us in America, us in the wider West, us in Britain, Canada, Australia, and so on. Which is why after this atrocity, this war that Hamas started. If so many people in our societies decide to put themselves on the side Not of the Israelis, not even actually of the Palestinian people and the quest for statehood and all that sort of thing. But on the side of the death cult of Hamaz, on the on the side of Hezbollah that joined in the war on the eighth of october twenty twenty three.

This is a lingering problem in our society, and it is growing.

So we had Mark Levin on an hour ago on Fox and Friends, and one of the things he said is: we're five years ahead of London and France in terms of extremists coming into your country, allowing your borders to be open and begin to change the character of your country. He sees what's happening in Dearborn. He sees these protests in major cities, especially in New York City, and said this is a five-alarm fire. Do you see it that way? Absolutely.

Just consider the fact that one of the big one of the most frequent chances. on American campuses, on American streets, in this city, since the seventh of october twenty twenty three has been Globalize the Intifada. There are people in western city after western city today, including by the way this morning I just saw in London. Calling for globalize the intifada. You see, we know What that means.

The people of Israel know what that means. Intifada is the use of terrorism against innocent people. And this city that we're sitting in, got a very big dose of Intifada. twenty four years ago. on nine eleven, two thousand and one.

Last week in Manchester in the north of England. A man called Jihad. A man called Jihad rammed a car into Jews outside a synagogue going into service, and started stabbing at them. shouting Alo Akba. Globalizing the Intifada.

That's what it means. We should be under no illusions about this. And we here in New York have a lead candidate for mayor of this city. Twenty four years after nine eleven, Who Has Said that he wouldn't currently use the phrase globalize the intifada, but of course he understands it. And his friends all use the phrase, What have we come to?

I agree with you. I'm embarrassed to work here. I love the building. Don't love the city. Long Island, dramatically different.

Upstate New York, dramatically different. I mean, I don't know if you're familiar with the area, Douglas, but if you go to Nassau County or Suffolk County, that's why the governor hates them. It hates Long Island. And you go to upstate New York, where three of my kids went to college. The further up you go, the more you get people who are more open to different school thought, not radicalized New York City dwellers.

But I thought about. This, I want to probably play a soundbite now because you really beat him to the punch by about a year. But it outlines the idiocy of calling what's happening in Gaza genocide. Here's Scott Galloway trying to teach MSNBC what's really going on here. 2,200 American servicemen killed at Pearl Harbor.

We go on to kill 3,5 million Japanese, including 100,000 in one night. 2,800 Americans in 9-11. We go on to kill 400,000 people in Afghanistan and Iraq. We weren't accused of genocide. You had, if Mexico had elected a jihadist cartel to run their country and then they incurred into Texas.

And on a per capita basis, killed 35,000 people of the population of the University of Texas. and on the way back took the freshman class at SMU hostage and hid them under tunnels. What would we do? It'd be the great Sonora radioactive parking lot. But Jews are not allowed, and Israel is not allowed to prosecute a war.

And they are prosecuting a war more humanely than we have done. The ratio of combatants to civilians. Is civilian death to combatant mortality lower than it was in Mosul, lower than it was in Japan, lower it was in Germany. There's just a different standard for Jews in Israel when it comes to prosecuting a war. They're allowed to fight back to a truce.

But unlike America or any other Western nation that is attacked this viciously, they're not allowed to win a war. It's a double standard. Make you feel better, like somebody else. Guess it? Yes, very much so.

I've been saying this in the beginning because since before October the 7th, the Zoromamdanis and others was saying that Israel was committing genocide in Gaza. They said that before this war that Hamaz started. And they've been saying. They called it an outdoor prison. Yeah, they've been saying it every single day since October 7th, 2023.

They've been saying genocide. Genocide is a very specific thing. It is the deliberate attempt Yeah. to eradicate an entire race of people. I have been with the IDF in Gaza, in Lebanon, and elsewhere in the last few years.

The idea. That these soldiers are trying to wipe out the Palestinians of Gaza. or the people of Lebanon or anywhere else, is preposterous. It is i i if they wanted to do it, they could have done. I mean, they don't want to, but if they wanted to, they could have done, because they've had two years.

Instead, they have been doing house-to-house operations in Gaza, taking out tunnel entrances, trying to rescue the hostages, trying to destroy the leadership of Hamas. That's what they've been doing. But just consider even this morning, I don't want to harp on about him too much, but even this morning. The Likely next mayor of New York City, Made a cursory reference in a tweet to the fact that there had been a massacre two years ago in Israel, and then talked about the genocide in Gaza. These people.

who have been pushing this lie. that has become so mainstream in recent years. Which we have heard on the airwaves, we've heard politicians say it, we've heard people who want to be elected politicians say it, we've heard it across all of the campuses of this country. These people. are saying something that is a lie.

And it is causing a whipping up of hatred. And we know, again, we know what globalized intifada means. Only a few months ago in Washington, DC, two young people happened to be. uh working for the Israeli embassy in uh DC. But they were they were killed by somebody when they were walking out of an event at the Jewish Museum in Washington.

And they were shot dead on the streets of DC, this young couple, By somebody screaming free Palestine. All the people who have been pushing the Intifada talk pushing the genocide lie. Pushing the free Palestine, support Hamaslai. These people are whipping up people into violence and the blood will be on their hands. 100% correct.

But Douglas, do you realize when it comes to Mondami, this is the time when you modulate your views to get the most people possible to vote for you? Do you realize how much worse it's going to be if he gets the job? Oh, I've seen Mamdani like figures in the UK and elsewhere for years. I know exactly how they do this. They have very radical views, very sectarian, nasty, ugly views.

But they hide them. for the months before they need to get into office, and they go on things like the View, And when they're asked, you know, five years ago, you said that the police in America Are racist and misogynistic and homophobic and transphobic, and that they should be defunded. Do you still agree with that? And he says. Look.

My views have evolved. Yeah. He's 33 years old.

So many people say something at 28 that they totally disagree with at 33. Yeah, sure, he wasn't a kid. But he goes on shows like that, and then he smiles and he's nice, and it all slips by, and he can get into office and then do what he really wants. See, this is what blows me away because I'll take it even further. They say: have you apologized for your past comments about the NYPD being racist?

He says When I see cops individually I'll have conversations with them. I mean, do you realize if he's not able to say, I apologize, man, I don't know what I was thinking. I was caught up in the George Floyd. You know, I don't feel that. And I like to say to any, that's what you do, even if you don't believe it.

But you know what scares me is that he knows he can't do that because a lot of the 400,000 people that gave him the primary victory feel the same way. Yes. So he's got to not alienate them. At the same time, tell people that you don't have to fear me.

Well, I do fear what he could do. Absolutely.

He cannot. condemn people calling for Intifada in New York And he cannot say That he doesn't think that our police in New York, the NYPD, are racist and misogynistic and homophobic and transphobic. He can't say it because this is what his base believes. They want him to fader. They want the right to call for Interfada.

They want to say that our police in New York are racist. They want to defund the police, so he's got to keep them on side whilst trying to fool.

Some decent people, some gullible idiots into voting for him. But you're so right, Brian. Outside of the kind of maniac centres that we have in this country, like all western countries, I do believe. That most people out there are decent people. They realize, they realize that the people who are calling for Intifada, the people who say our police are racist in America and so on, they always hate Israel first, but they always hate America next.

Always. You cannot be somebody who is patriotic for Britain or America or Canada and be calling for Intifada or support for Hamas or support for Hezbollah or support for the Iranian revolutionary government in Iran. You can't be. Because all of these people hate the Jewish state first and hate us in America and the rest of the West next. Douglas Murray, we're going to continue this conversation or leave some quality time on the other side because I do think there's a reason for hope.

And I do want to get your sense of what's going to come out of Cairo, Egypt as they negotiate an end to this conflict for now. And the bottom of the hour center, Steve Daines. Brian, Kill Me Show with Douglas Murray. Don't move. It's Brian Kilmade.

Breaking news, unique opinions. Hear it all on the Brian Kill Me Show. And did the negotiations do any red lines in terms of the Hamas disarming and whatnot? Are there anything? No, I have red lines.

If certain things aren't met, we're not going to do it. But I think we're doing very well, and I think Hamas has been. agreeing to things that are very important.

So, how are the negotiations going? I saw Al Jazeera English, I read Arab news the best I can. I don't read Arabic and didn't see much in the American newspapers that things are progressing, and they're working on logistics about getting the hostages out. Douglas Murray, journalist, associate editor of the Spectator, New York Post columnist, senior fellow at the Manhattan Institute, author of On Democracies and Death Cults, Israel and the Future of Civilization, perfect guest for today. What worries you is that we had a deadline and it's been extended.

There might be reasons for it, but it's always tough when you have a deadline and have to bend it, correct? Yes. President Trump said very clearly uh last week that Hamaz had until Sunday. to release the hostages. and put down its weapons and agree to the deal.

And the Trump deal is a very, very good deal. The twenty-point plan is a very comprehensive plan. It's got the agreement of the Israelis and of all the Arab countries in the region. and Sunday has passed. We're now on Tuesday.

It was on Friday last week that Hamaz said they were willing to start negotiating. But this is what Hamas do. They always do this. They always drag out and draw out these sort of negotiations. Today, The word is that I've had is that Hamaz is now saying that in exchange for releasing the Israeli hostages that they still have hold of, they've had hold of now for two years.

Uh there are thought to be about twenty people who are alive, and, just a reminder of how sick the death cult of Hamaz is, about thirty dead Jewish bodies that they're holding on to as collateral for negotiating chips. They've said Hamaz now, In exchange for these living and dead Israeli hostages, They would like not just some of the prisoners who they have s insisted, which is hundreds of prisoners. 1700 Gazans jailed and 250 Palestinian prisoners, many of which on life sentences. Yes. Two hundred and fifty on life sentences.

Means they killed before. Yes. These are convicted terrorists in Israeli jails. But the word today is that Hamaz also wants Israel to release the terrorists they are holding Who were captured on the 7th of October, who were taking part in the massacre.

Now that. is an absolute impossible thing for the Israelis to agree to, and they should not be pushed into that. I've actually I'm one of the few journalists who who's been in to see The terrorists of October the seventh in the jails that they're held in in Israel. These are these are killers. These are killers, they're rapists.

They are Um Mass murderers, they're psychopaths. They should never see the light of day again. And the idea that two days after the President's deadline has passed. Hamaz would raise this: that they want these people back, these murderers and rapists, they want them back in exchange for innocent. Israelis And the dead bodies of innocent Israelis?

This is this is definitely an impossibility.

So if Hamaz pushed for that, there can't be a deal. I agree. That's a non-starter. How much does Egypt, Turkey, UAE, Qatar, Indonesia, whoever else is taking part in this, the pressure that they seem to sincerely have on Hamas, that would make a difference, correct? If they just said, no, guys, you're not forget, that's not going to be a request of yours.

It's not going to be honored. Could they be at the we're not there, but could they be in there? Or are they just going to sit back and see how it goes? The crucial one in that is cutter. Carter is the Most tricky to say the least country in this equation.

They are the people, apart from the Iranian revolutionary government in Iran, who have been backing Hamas. They are the country that has been hosting Hamaz. Whereas uh The Iranian revolutionary government in Iran has been weakened, not least by American and Israeli strikes in June of this year. Qatar has pretty much got away with it. They have got away with their terrorism supporting.

And in my mind, far too little pressure has been put on them. In order that they in turn put pressure on Hamaz. But if Qatar says You have lost now, Hamaz, every friend. You will have no backing. You will all be dead.

You will get nothing of what you want. Then that might be the thing that unlocks the deal. But does Trump do that? Tell Qatar, go in there and do it. I love that they took a shot at those terrorists.

I'm sad that they missed in Qatar, but that seems to have changed the d dynamics. It does slightly. I thought that the attack on the Hamas leadership in Qatar came almost two years too late. I would have liked to have seen that happen on the eighth of october twenty twenty three. But Qatar is seen by many in the Trump administration.

particularly uh the negotiator Steve Wickhoff, as um a friend. An ally. And uh that's flat out wrong. Uh they are a very nefarious actor. the mother of the uh leader.

mourned Yahya Sinwa, who started this war, the head of Hamaz. She mourned him when he was killed. I think that Qatar is the link to unlocking this. I very much hope that President Trump tells Steve Witkoff to lean on them like hell in order that Hamas are finally over. Ten seconds left.

Will the hostages be coming out this week? All I can do is pray, like everyone else, that they do and that they are not swapped for murderers. The fastest three hours in radio. You're with Brian Kilmead. So, Mr.

Leader, again, longest shutdown was during the first Trump presidency. This is what you said at the time about that particular shutdown. Here it is. We are willing to take what Senate Republicans have done in order to reopen the government.

so that we no longer are holding 800,000 federal workers hostage.

Well, that's exactly what you're doing right now. Hundreds of thousands of workers have been held hostage. What's changed from then to now?

Well, actually, Donald Trump is a president. Republicans control the House, the Senate, and the Presidency. They could reopen the government if they chose to. The reality is...

Well, they would have to change the rules to be able to.

Well, that's correct. But which they've done multiple times So so what a great job. I don't know what his first name is, but what the anchor of the Today Show did. I'm busy at the time. Just pinning him to the mat and just saying, of course, this is the stupidest thing, the shutdown.

You have points, you don't have points. Whatever you think of his health care debate and wanting to leave the inflated rate of 400% over the poverty level to be eligible for Medicaid, whatever you believe, you believe you don't shut the government down because of that. That's not the debate. You do it in appropriations. And I thought the Today Show holding his feet to the fire is certainly surprising and welcome.

Senator Steve James joins us now. You know, he's on Finance, Foreign Relations, and Energy Committee. He's still at work today, hoping to be another test vote, but so far, only three Dems. You need five more to get the government back. Senator, how would you rate?

Uh your level of frustration right now.

Well, Brian, um It's very high and it's only going to increase as you start to see troops not getting paid. Benefits going to women and children who are in poverty. That's coming next, Brian, if the Democrats don't cooperate with us. And look, this is all about political theater. I haven't seen this kind of political theater since Hamilton.

I mean, that's what's going on. truly about Chuck Schumer. Seeing what happened last time that they agreed to a CR back in March when he got retribution from the radical far-left loonies and crazies. of the Democrat Party, they're holding him hostage And as a result, he's taken the government hostage in this shutdown. That's where it's at.

That's the truth. We need five Democrat senators. to agree with us For what they call a clean, continuing resolution, which just means a funding bridge between now and November 21st. To hash out the appropriations, to go through the regular order of putting together spending bills. and move on, something that the Democrats did Thirteen times when Joe Biden was president, but now that Trump is president.

They can't do it. And Brian, there's another important point that I was talking with Tom Cotton last night about this. Tom's been out on TV today talking about it. And that is there is a no kings. basically anti-Trump rally That's nationwide in scope planned for october eighteenth.

The far left has got a game planner. This is very orchestrated. They want to build a crescendo for this massive national no kings rally, which is Trump derangement syndrome, for october eighteenth.

So I can see where there's going to hold. until the 18th of October, allow the far left to have their rallies across this country, but that's going to take the temperature up in this country. And this is a time we need to take the temperature down, not up.

So uh if if American people aren't seeing this as pure political theater, they're missing the main point. I do, I I understand it.

So right now, just give me an idea of the tactics, because sometimes you guys talk and the talks break up. But this time I don't see anybody talking. I know uh Senator Shaheen behind the scenes was mentioning doing something last week. Senator Collins had some ideas this week. What are you seeing happening outside of leadership?

Well, there is, and this is something that leadership has put on the table. I'm part of John Foon's leadership team. Here's the simple message. We are ready to continue to negotiate and work through some of the impasse. But we do that after we open the government up.

And that's the deal. Until the governments open back up, there's not going to be a negotiation. But there's a good faith commitment to negotiate. after we get the government opened back up. You can't allow and reward bad behavior of taking the government hostage with a shutdown.

Who wants to be the party that's not going to be paying the US troops? It's not going to be us.

So let's open things back up Let's make sure TSA agents are getting paid. Let's make sure government Employees who are doing their jobs safely every day are getting paid, and then we can start negotiations. I hear you.

So, the shutdown is going on right now, and they say it's over Medicare and the cuts that are going to be coming their way. But I think the further, unless I'm wrong, it's all about the inflation of eligibility and money flowing into Medicare and Medicaid during the pandemic, during that rescue plan that Larry Summers, as well as Jason Fuhrman, two economists from the Democratic Administration, said we didn't need. And right now, Medicaid, people who are making within 400% of the poverty level, above it, get Medicaid. And it's not what it was intended for. It's unaffordable.

We have all these ways to cut spending. Nobody wants anyone to not have health insurance, but you have to do what's possible. If you have a six-figure income, you should not be on Medicaid.

So this is being lost in the debate around why the Democrats have taken this hostage. It is exactly what you described there, Brian. You go back to COVID era, these. Massive subsidies that were meant to be temporary. They've been extended twice already.

The Democrats want to make these permanent. In other words, allowing people in excess of 400% of the poverty level. federal poverty level to continue to get these benefits. These subsidies will exist if this temporary program ceases and desists. Because there are already going to be subsidies in place up to 400% of the federal population.

Those are preserved. What the Democrats want to do is keep subsidies for those be above 400%. 400% federal poverty level. It's a $350 billion expenditure. It is absolutely riddled with waste and fraud abuse.

Frankly, it's a massive scam. for the insurance companies that are taking advantage of this. But this is why the Democrats are studying the government for that fight. It is truly. Ridiculous.

Right. If you want to turn up the heat, tell people their flights are canceled, tell them they can't land, tell them they're delayed. And I cannot believe six days in without missing a paycheck. Air traffic controllers are choosing not to show. In Burbank, nobody showed up.

In Newark, people are sitting out. In Denver, Los Angeles, there were massive delays.

So we had the Secretary of Transportation on with us. He's in a tough spot. You don't want to call out air traffic controllers who are tense and undermanned and overworked already, but this should not be what they do, in my view. Here's what Sean Duffy said. cycle ended yesterday, right?

Their paychecks come next week. And they see what's on the horizon, Brian. They're like, listen, do I see a resolution to the shutdown? I don't see it.

So guess what? I'm concerned about my own life, my own family. And what we do is say, again, I want people when they travel to get to where they're going.

So if we don't have controllers, we're going to make sure the airspace is safe.

So what we do is we'll slow traffic, we'll shut down traffic, and that's what you saw in Burbank. We saw significant delays because controllers weren't there.

So, this is the worry. If you start saying Newark shut down, LaGuardia shut down, LAX says nobody, what happens?

Well, it this moves to the real serious stage real fast. I'll call those first few days are like the honeymoon period of a shutdown. Nobody's really feeling. the effects of it. It gets real this week.

If we don't act this week. then you start seeing this cascading effect. Of paychecks not going out. We'll have until early next week to act before the troops don't get paid. Uh this becomes a serious problem.

I remember this from the 2013 shutdown. And what happens is the Democrats have taken a hostage. They're flying into a box canyon. There's no strategy to get out. They will not get any political win or policy win.

They're just going to have their hissy fit. But the problem is Yeah. Rank and file Americans are going to suffer because of their ideological protest they're having, but you should not be allowed to shut the government down. As a negotiating tool or leverage. That's why I firmly support legislation that we voted on, by the way, last week that would eliminate government shutdowns.

Do not allow members of Congress to use this. It's a dangerous tool. And furthermore, it costs the taxpayer a lot of money. Right now, they're estimating it's 10%. tens of billion dollars a day.

Additional costs for the taxpayer because of the shutdown.

So this is a bad deal for taxpayers, and as well as disrupting services. When you start seeing these airports, delaying flights. When you start seeing TSA agents not showing up for work, now you have the passengers, the flying public, not being able to get to their flights in time. And this is just the beginning of really a scenario that's going to get a lot worse. That's why the Democrats need to work with us, five of them.

We need five Dems to vote with us today. We open it back up, and then we will start good faith negotiations. 20 seconds, will you work and try to find those Democrats? We are, we're working on it as we speak. You know, we have the quiet conversations.

But I'll tell you what, they're held by Chuck Schumer and they're held by the radical left. That's the problem. Problem is the radical left is not going to help John Ossoff win in Georgia. He's not going to help him, though. Senator Steve Daines, always great to talk to you.

You know so much and get your hands dirty in so many issues. That's why it's always great for our audience to hear what the latest is. Senator Steve Daines of Montana, thanks. We do a simulcast on FBN in a moment.

Now, the Brian Kilmead Show joins Fox Business's Varney and Company with Stuart Varney live on your radio and on Fox Business. Here's Brian Kilmead. All right, everyone, welcome back. We're going to go on with Stuart Varney shortly, and at the tail end, I'll be able to get to the phone calls around the country: 1-866-408-7669.

So, we have Pam Bondi testifying Capitol Hill. She's getting grilled by Amy Klobucher, as well as going at it with Senator Dick Durbin about Chicago and everything else. It is explosive. You forget that the Senate's in business. The House went home.

They passed a continuing resolution, but they didn't go. But uh So they really have nothing to do, so we sent them home. I just want to read to you what we got from Zorhan Mandami this morning. It's a statement from him. I'm sure you've seen it, but I want our viewers to see it again.

I'm reading it. Two years ago today, Hamas carried out a horrific war crime, killing more than 1,100 Israelis. I mourn these lives and pray for the safe return of every hostage. In the aftermath of that day, Prime Minister Netanyahu and the Israeli government launched a genocidal war, a death toll that now far exceeds 67,000, with the Israeli military bombing homes, hospitals and schools into rubble. This must end.

The occupation and apartheid must end. That, in my opinion, Brian, is a disgrace. He describes Israel as a genocidal state and that's just plain wrong. That's what New Yorkers want to elect. I mean, he's not hiding it.

This is him modulating his views until he gets the job.

So that's how he feels. The genocide. That's how he characterizes it.

So I understand.

So in Mondami's world of Uganda, I guess, born and then raised over here and for 33 years old, he was an assemblyman. But in his world, in his world, when you get attacked and over a thousand people get killed arbitrarily, mostly civilians, and 200 plus are taken hostage, he should decide what the retribution should be while they still hold people against their will.

So you decide after 9/11, will we give it a threshold by the world on how many people we should take out in order to make sure Al-Qaeda doesn't try that again? How many terrorists we killed along the way? And sadly, there might have been some innocent people and collateral damage along the way, never our intent, but it happens.

Now you have somebody, according to experts at the War College over at West Point, who says they were fighting a more humanitarian. War in Gaza per capita than even we were doing in Iraq with Fallujah and Ramadi. They go out of their way. The problem is why innocent people die. The problem is Hamas is intent on building their tunnels and their traps and their offices in hospitals, in schools, and in mosques.

In fact, one of the hostages that thankfully got out is going to be joining us next hour in his book. He says he was kept above ground for 50 days, and then they were brought to a mosque where a door opened up and they went down a ladder into a tunnel.

So if you want to know why innocent people might die, maybe it's because you built that where innocent people are. And we all know that nobody's profited more off the free aid given to that area than Hamas, the people that he obviously loves and worships. And I'm sure he would be one of those people protesting today all throughout Manhattan against Israel and for Hamas. Yeah, disgraceful. But then, again, let's have a look at the other candidate, New York City mayoral candidate Andrew Cuomo.

Now he was on the view. He downplayed the sex scandal that drove me from office. Watch this. You left office apologizing to those women while always denying the most serious accusations. But you've taken a more combative stance lately.

I didn't even know who the individuals were. We then spent five years, that report went to five district attorneys all over the state. No one found anything. I did say if I offended anyone in any way, I didn't mean it. A painful lesson, which is to be much more cautious.

I won't kiss a person on the cheek unless they initiate Uh a kiss. That's an explanation of his scandal. Do you think it works with voters? No, and I don't think the reason he's not going to get elected, it doesn't look like it anyway, unless something dramatically happens, is because of this ex scandal. I just don't even think it's the way he ran the pandemic, or with the horrible thing he did with the nursing homes.

We're not going to get to that point. Bottom line is: the majority of people, sadly, that choose to vote in New York City want an extreme socialist. That's what he's doing. The reason why he doesn't apologize to cops, the reason why he doesn't apologize to Israelis, to Jews, is because he's afraid of alienating the 400,000 people that voted for him and got him the victory in the primary. That's what we're dealing with.

Governor Cuomo is not losing because of the way he left the governor's mansion. He is losing because, number one, he's lazy, barely even tried in the primary.

Now it's kicking into gear. He thought he was going to be anointed to him. Number two is the era of traditional Democrats is over in the Northeast. It's done. And that's what he said yesterday.

He says there's a civil war in the Democratic Party, and that's what's happening in real time. It's not Stuart Varney's opinion or my opinion. That's the opinion of people like Hakeem Jeffries and Schumer, who, like cowards, refuse to call out this socialist. You're right. You're right.

And Mandami is going. To win. Brian Kilmey, thanks for joining us. All good stuff. Thank you.

You got it.

Thank you so much. And that's really what's going on. I mean, oftentimes you talk about these issues in New York. We're lucky enough to be carried by WABC in New York, but this is a national issue. And why?

Because there's a lot of Mundami lights running across the country, and they feel as though the young people have given up on. capitalism and would be open to socialism because they don't like the current system the way it is right now. And his statement is so abhorrent. He spends three lines saying what happened on october seventh is terrible, and the rest of the time talking about how Netanyahu is presiding over genocide. Hey, look, Europe feels that way.

You have the Prime Minister of that left wing Prime Minister of the UK feels the same way. Macron basically said the same thing, trying to recognize a Palestinian state that you can't possibly draw on a map. It doesn't exist.

So that's what's happening. Just a quick note. If you really want to care about our country, go back in history as we come up in the year 250. I'm on stage with the show. I think you'll really love History, Liberty, and Laughs.

It's streamed on Fox Nation. My next stop is Potts Town, Pennsylvania. Go to BrianKilme.com for tickets. And of course, you can stream it, and you get specials when you get there. And that's great.

Meanwhile, special thanks to Steve Daines for joining us this hour, as well as Douglas Murray. And always keep it here. This is an important day, October 7th, two years to the day in which the most horrific crime that I can remember in modern history was perpetrated on the Israelis, many of which were sympathetic toward the Palestinian cause. I don't see how they can now. Don't move.

From high atop Fox News headquarters in New York City, always seeking solutions, never sowing division. It's Brian Kilmey. Hi, I'm Brian Kilmead. Welcome to the latest moments of the Brian Kilmead Show here on October 7th, two years to the day of the most horrific attacks that I can remember in my lifetime, and the certainly second most horrific attacks, maybe on the Jewish people and, of course, in the country of Israel, who's been on a war footing ever since, neutralizing. uh who the muti rebels absolutely destroying but not eliminating Hezbollah.

And setting back, if not destroying. The Iranian nuclear program. With our help, and we are one of the few. Democracy is still standing firmly in their corner. Sadly, it says a lot about our allies.

As we look back on October 7th, it also says the state of American politics, especially in New York City, we're looking at multiple protests for people for Hamas and don't like the fact that Israel fought back after over a thousand people lost their lives and hundreds were taken hostage, one of which joins me in the studio, Eli Sharabi. Eli was held hostage for 491 days in Gaza, author of a memoir you simply have to get called Hostage. Eli, welcome to the show. It was nice seeing you on Fox and Friends yesterday, and I'm glad you're okay today. Thank you very much.

It's m my big honor to be here. When did you realize it would be important for you to write this book? I think after my visit in the UN and my testimony there, And People approached me and said, I have to write um all this down and that all The world will know uh my story. Your brother lost his life. His body is still being held in captivity.

Your wife and your daughters were killed. And you're taken hostage. Um How do you put in perspective? what you've been forced to experience through no fault of your own.

Well, um, you know. It was um Hell of a time in in All these 491 days, October 7, as we experienced that, and after that, the captivity. And all the announcement after that about Yossi, my brother, and um And of course my wife and my daughter just after my release and And just to they have been slaughtered. Did you know that when you were taken? No, no, they were fine.

They were all calm in very calm in our house. We were sure the British passports uh will protect them. Um But probably this animal doesn't have any boundaries. And they killed them, uh murdered them. uh five minutes after my uh I was kidnapped.

So how old were they, sixteen and thirteen? Sixteen and thirteen, no yeah in the hell, yes.

So and you said you could still remember the terror that they felt when you were being taken. Wow, just to see their fears in um in their eyes. I can't forget this um this fear, this uh this look. And and I promised myself uh the day I was going to be released, I'm just I'm going to take Leanne, Noya and De Hill. out of uh this uh conflict area and go Going back to London.

And sadly, you didn't have that point. But going through your captivity, thinking that they were alive probably motivated you to get out. If you had known this, it probably would have been even harder for you to survive. Yes, it's all mean li you know, life And thanks God nobody told me differently.

So it's kept me alive just to survive for them, see them again, and I can hug them again. And I imagine um The day of my release, uh, thousands of times that they're going to run towards me and And we can be together again.

So now you want to tell your story. Do you fear, as I do, that so many people forgot about October 7th and they're focusing on Gaza and they don't focus on what happened that led to the attack on Gaza, a place that almost every Israeli said we have no interest in, we have no interest in going in, but after October 7th, you had no choice.

So you worry that people have lost perspective. Yes, uh it's the maybe it's the main reason to write this uh testimony. uh that nobody will forget, not october seventh, not what we you know, all this time in the s in the safe room uh waiting for the army. Um the brutality and the cruel uh that uh the terrorist um No show to the hostages. And um, you know, on October seven I was more than seventy kilos and I was released uh less than forty four kilos.

And that's about ninety pounds? Uh, something like that. Um Um we ate one meal a day in the last six months in captivity. We ate one meal a day, uh a bowl of pasta, one and a half pit of bread that was very, very dry. Uh and they had lots of food.

They had lots of food. They ate four or five times a day. Um in front of you. In front of us. We've seen the dozens of boxes every week getting in from the humanitarian aid.

Um So they they had enough food. What does that make you think when people say the people are starving, the the Israelis cut off aid, and yet you you're seeing Hamas eat like kings? Yes, um, well Um this is them. They don't care about not be especially not about us, but they don't care even their own population, the Palestinians that everybody's shouting for them and all this. Hamas doesn't care about them.

What makes you think that? What We've seen they they stole from them their their uh humanitarian aid. Uh and they said to us they're upstairs, they're um starving uh and they're waiting for their food. And In the meantime we see them eating five times a day. Do you think the the Do you disseminate between the Palestinian people and Hamas?

Sorry again. Is there a difference in your view of the Palestinian people and Hamas?

Well. I don't know, but the the the Palestinian people, uh, when civilians when we call uh and people want to Um to identify them as uninvolved um All the people I've seen Uh trying to lynch me. Uh even Hamas terrorist uh was afraid that somebody will recognize that uh their Israelis in this house or uh in the tunnels and they will come in and kill them as well.

So so to be clear, so Hamas was actually protecting you from the Palestinian people. If they knew there was a hostage there, they would just overpower Hamas, grab you and kill you. They said that all the time they were scared about that. Um Well, the the first stop in Gaza, um they uh took me away from the um uh my um Um the guardians uh of uh Hamas terrorists uh and start to lynch me. It was kids on top of me start to hit me with their shoes.

Um So Yeah. I I I can't say they're not they're uninvolved. How how hard was it on you physically? W were you beaten? Were you?

Starbucked. We were humiliated daily basis. We were chained twenty-four-seven for four hundred and eighty-five days, just a week before my release. They took it off. Um We were beaten uh from time to time.

Uh they uh undressed us almost every two weeks and searched on on our body. and look for things, I don't know what. And um And of course the starvation was the worst thing. Where did they keep you? Do you know?

Where they keep you. Um but uh I think most of the hostages are there in the central of Gaza. Um And it's a place that the uh the IDF is being ver very careful not to attack.

So you think the IDF knows roughly where these hostages are? Yes. Right. And are most of them in in and around Gaza City? Most of them.

Most of them. In tunnels. Yes, of course.

So you were kept above ground for a while though, right? Only the first fifty two days. I've been in Palestinians' family's house. The family were in the first floor. We've been in the second floor.

Um That's it. And how did you get down? Through a mosque? There was a door in a mosque, they got you you went downstairs? How did they get you into the tunnel?

Oh, they just we w we went to one day they let us know that we are leaving the house.

So we walked twenty met uh twenty sec uh m um minutes. Um through the f the first mosque we've seen. We got in Um and took us to a side room and opened this door. Yes. So, what does it tell you?

As you know, people should understand this. They put the entrance to these tunnels in mosques and schools. and in hospitals. Yes. Because they think that well, if the Israelis bomb this, they'll look like the bad guys.

Yes. The the first well, we got in from a mosque and we went out uh from uh uh a school Um And um and this is the second tunnel we've been. We're uh underground of a hospital.

So, um yes. That's this is the place that um They're digging uh their tunnels because they know the IDF would be very, very careful not to bomb there.

So, you worry especially about another captive that you left behind, a 24-year-old Alon Ohi, right? Alon Ohio was with me, yes.

So, tell me about him. Oh, great kid. Great kid. Uh very naive. Um and, you know, frightened for his life.

Very talented pianist. amazing guy with great values. Uh his parents uh raised him very very well. And I think after an hour of talking with him, we found so many in common between us and so I Alec. You always have to be a little bit more.

Just adopted him like a father for him, yes.

So, and he kind of leaned on you, and then you had to tell him at one point, or it became clear that you were getting out, and he wasn't. How tough was that?

Well, it was very tough. It was Maybe one the the one of the toughest moments uh I've been there. Um We hugged each other, we we cried, we said to each other that uh he can I pr that I'm um I'm sure he can survive without me. Um he did a lot, you know. to understand how to what we what is need to survive.

So um, yeah, all the time.

So now all the time. The f one of the first calls I've done two calls in the same day of I was released. One was to Lian, uh my wife's parents. Uh to England. Uh that was very hard uh conversation.

Uh and the second one was uh to Alon's parents. to tell them that this her kids their kids uh is fine, he can survive, and they have to have all the faith in the world that they will see him one day. And we understand he's still alive, right? He is still alive.

Well, last time I've seen him, it was months ago in this uh video. Um um I was very happy to see that. And I'm uh quite sure we will I will see him soon. Eli Shurabi is here. His book is now out.

It talks about what he was living through in his 491 days as a hostage. And this is marking the second year since the October 7th attacks. Why do you think you were chosen to be released?

Well, they said to me, it's because of my age. How old are you? I'm today I'm fifty three years old, so Back then I was fifty two, almost fifty three, and I said, um like the um the old one has coming now out and Um and next will be the youngs and we were sure it will be in in a week. I promise that to Alon, that I'll fight for him and will be soon home. And unfortunately, uh sadly is already there two hundred and forty days more than uh since The day of my release.

We're going to have a few more minutes with Eli. Eli, go grab his book, tell the true story and get people a perspective on what this year does, what happened on October 7th, and not forget it, to have perspective on why Israel is even forced to fight in Gaza to begin with. You're listening to the Brian Killmeat show. Don't move. The talk show that's getting you talking.

You're with Brian Kilmead. Central to this. has always been in the past. Hamas. And what they are pushing back on They're saying they're willing to give up the hostages, but then they're also saying Well, we don't have complete control of them.

Other groups have summoned hostages from the very outset. In fact, true. Why don't we ask a former hostage who has a book called Hostage out today, Eli Sharabi? He was held there for 491 days in Gaza, and he put together his personal account. He lost his children.

He lost his wife in this attack. He lost his brother, whose body is still being held in Gaza. But he wants to tell the story so people don't forget, marking the second year since those attacks in 2023. Eli, what do you think about what General Keene just said? Hamas says we don't really have track of all the hostages.

I hope they're not saying the truth. I think that they're going to release all the did they agree to release all the hostages? And they cannot say that if they don't know uh where's everybody. Do do you think they do know? Was there no answer?

They have control about everything in Gaza. Um I hope it will not have be a problem with that. Otherwise uh probably the finish or the agreement will not be accepted.

So you said that these guys never expected th this type of uh response from Israel and that they cry themselves, they're crying and have panic attacks because they know uh the next day could be their last? Yes. Um they were sure this uh war after october seventh, twenty three, uh it will finish in in a month or two. Uh they came to us and asked us why why it continues, why uh Netanyahu wants uh to kill them, uh why doesn't let them to be in the government anymore. Um And uh yes, um, you know, they've been uh they used to cry um to their pillows at night.

Uh tried to do this uh quietly, but we heard them um very good. And um Have panic attacks from time to time, shaking, fainting. their uh situation wasn't very good. Uh they Counted um their friends, uh, their fighters, um, their terrorists with that with them. Every uh day they count uh something like a hundred of them that uh have been killed with the uh, you know, um with this confrontation with the Israelis.

Do you believe the numbers that sixty seven thousand are dead? Maybe, I don't know, but probably most of them are not uninvolved. I want you to hear what this mayoral candidate, Zoram Amdani, said about October 7. Two years ago, Hamas carried out a horrific attack, killing more than 1,100 Israelis, kidnapping 250. I mourn these lives and pray for their safe return.

In the aftermath, Prime Minister Nenyan, when the Israeli government launched a genocidal war, a death toll that exceeds 67,000, with the Israeli military bombings, hospitals and schools into rubble, every day in Gaza has become a place of grief. Instead, it has run out of language. I mourn these lives and pray for their families. This must end. The occupation and our apartheid must end.

Peace must be pursued through diplomacy, not war crimes, and our government must act to end these atrocities. Do you agree with his description? Not at all. I'm not going to argue with him But um it just If you can tell me how you can um uh fight with uh terrorists. that um uh hiding behind his own population and um running with kids uh alongside them that the IDF will not uh bomb them.

Um How can you d how can you fight with them without uh people to get hurt? Um And the genocide war. Was on October 7th. Uh that didn't come from uh from Hamas. And Eli, what sustains you today with these horrible images fresh in your mind and still no end to this conflict, even though we hope it's close?

What sustains you today? What drives you? Um What do you mean uh what's your motivation now? What motivates you now? My motivation that um the hostages will come back.

Um these people cannot um you cannot hear their voice, so I'm their voice. Um and for their um for their families. Um Forty-eight. Uh still there. Forty eight uh hostages remained in uh Gaza Strip, held by Hamas.

their um families life um you know, that's not It's not the same anymore. We need to bring them back home and start to heal our trauma. And if people want to understand what truly happened, pick up Eli's book. If you want to support somebody who's keeping the cause alive, it's called Hostage. Eli Shurabi, so glad you're okay.

Hopefully, we have good news soon. Thank you very much. I hope so. Thanks for telling your story. He's so busy, he'll make your head spin.

It's Brian Killmead. All right, we are back and we're continuing to monitor everything with Pam Bonnie on Capitol Hill taking fire about personnel changes, about different things with Tisha James, talking about the Epstein files, everything front and center, because the Senate is still at work. The House went home because we're in the middle of a shutdown.

So we'll see what's going on. The worst thing to come out of the shutdown so far is even though it's six days in, air traffic controllers evidently in Burbank, none showed up. They're beginning to thin out over in Newark. There were delays in Denver and Los Angeles.

So if you're really disrupting people's travel, I'm not sure why you can't go six days and you're not even missing a paycheck and not showing up. We're also following all the goings on. Republicans are all over the fact that Jack Smith evidently had a list of Republican senators. That he was monitoring their communications in related to the Donald Trump investigations prior to the election, which have now been dissipated.

So let's bring in Howie Kurtz, Fox News political analyst. Howie, how would you? I characterize who's winning the shutdown wars right now.

Well, there's no question that uh Donald Trump has the bigger megaphone. And it's very hard for people like Hakeem Jeffries to compete with that and Chuck Schumer. Um but I would say that The Democrats have scored surprisingly in my view. in getting across the notion that they're um Um you know. Um fighting for healthcare.

Um Marjorie Teller Greene. has complained, and she's broken with the White House on this, that her adult children Will find their premiums doubled if certain Obamacare credits, tax credits aren't extended. But look, when it reaches the level of some of these airports, it can barely function. I mean, that's pretty scary. And it also just shows, you know, ultimately, spoiler alert.

What's going to happen is the Democrats will Um Cave And then Republicans will say, Oh, we'll talk to you about your concerns, and then they'll do whatever they want. Yeah, I mean, a lot of those things is whatever those premiums are, it was because this rescue plan came in with the pandemic, and they raised the amount of people eligible 400% above the poverty line. They also raised put in tax credits to allow people on health to get those tax credit when it comes to health care.

So the premiums are up. The question is, they were down, they were artificially put down, and are we going to continue to fund At pandemic levels, is that indeed possible? The Big Beautiful Bill took care of that. Here's what Mike Johnson said: the speaker cut 36. Thanks to the Doge effort, okay, when Elon came in and got the team working, they were putting the magic algorithms to work through all these agencies.

We've done oversight. We've had hearings since I've been here for eight years. We've tried to dug into this. They didn't show us those facts, but they were able to uncover it because the facts don't lie. And then we unwound it.

We, of course, clawed it back. We made sure that in the one big beautiful bill and in the codifying of the executive orders, we got rid of that stuff. The Democrats want it back. That's the point. That's what Senator Kennedy was saying there with his charts on the Senate floor just a couple days ago.

He's pointing out that Chuck Schumer is making a demand in exchange for opening the government. He wants to spend $1.5 trillion additional dollars, and he wants all that absurdity back in the budget. We're not doing that. Republicans have drawn a line. We're going to turn sanity, return to sanity here, and we can't let Chuck Schumer and the Democrats prevail.

And how do you want to message that and what they're going to do in the interim? And how much pressure is on Chuck Schumer not to cave?

Well, I think he's not exactly the world's most exciting speaker, I will put it diplomatically. You could doze off watching him read stuff off note cards. But I think The Democrats are the party of government, it hurts them. The Republicans used to be against it. But, you know, Mike Johnson also said he doesn't like the fact in his state.

Of Louisiana, that FEMA grants have been cut, that he acknowledged the healthcare problem. Um The problem is. Suddenly Republicans are uh like these federal budget things, even though it comes out of their budget. I mean, this is the budget that they proposed. And now look, I mean, the hypocrisy is on both sides, depending on who controls the White House.

And It can't go on forever. I mean, I've been through so many of these. I remember the Clinton administration had, I think, the longest one. But More pain that's felt by more people in more localities, and I think the pressure will be enormous to at least. Keck the can down the road, which is their Congress's specialty for a few more weeks.

So, Howie, you know, I'm busy in the morning, so I don't get a chance to watch the Today Show. And I know you don't either because you're always watching Fox and Friends. But I want to bring you to an exchange. With their anchor and Hakeem Jeffries, because I was just surprised by where they brought him, Cut 33.

So Mr. Leader, again, longest shutdown was during the first Trump Presidency. This is what you said at the time about that particular shutdown. Here it is. We are willing to take what Senate Republicans have done in order to reopen the government.

so that we no longer are holding 800,000 federal workers hostage.

Well, that's exactly what you're doing right now. Hundreds of thousands of workers have been held hostage. What's changed from then to now?

Well, actually, Donald Trump is a president. Republicans control the House, the Senate, and the presidency. They could reopen the government if they chose to. The reality is...

Well, they would have to change the change the rules to be able to.

Well, that's correct. But which they've done multiple times So they say, and change the filibuster rule, that's not my fault?

So we kind of boxed him in there. I bet you he was surprised. Here inside the Beltway that uh is called um not a very effective defense to uh use the sports analogy. But but You know, it's not just Mike Johnson. A lot of Uh marjorie Taylor Greene, for example.

uh says that uh you know her own children Adult children, their premiums are going to double if these tax credits are not extended.

So You know, I on the one hand, Uh Johnson and many of his fellow Republicans are suddenly being very sensitive. to the fact that Local hospitals, local Nursing homes, whatever, are being affected. On the other hand, this is the budget they pushed through. Um including uh uh uh decline In what we used to call food stamps, nursing assistants, and so forth.

So, It's a mess. It's getting worse. Nobody seems to want to compromise, but an informal deadline may be. When members of the military Right now we're fighting without pay. When they would miss their first paycheck.

You know, a lot of people, Brian, live paycheck to paycheck, and this is going to be tough on them. Most Americans.

So I want to bring you to Jon Stewart last night of the Daily Show. You always see who's out of favor with the Democratic Party when the Daily Show or the tonight, not the tonight show, but more Colbert and Kimmel take shots at Democrats. There's usually a reason. Here we go. Listen to this.

New data came out today from KFF, and that is not Kentucky fried French fries. KFF could be Kentucky French fries. I know hand they can't. I know. Orange.

Yeah. Who is that joke even for? Six-year-olds that watch C-SPAN? What the f are you doing? The Schumer is a human flat tire.

And it got worse. And he really roasted him a little bit before that and after that. I mean, that's just that's using comedy to do what a lot of other people are saying behind the scenes, that he's not an effective leader. Yeah, I think Jon Stewart, you know, who we have to give credit for helping to push that bill through to help. veterans who developed age in orange and so forth.

I think that's Stewart saying. Chuck Schumer, uh, flat tire. He really, it's just, it's painful watching him. And I think also, Jon Stewart, Um sure. Chuck is out of favor, no question about it.

I mean, he symbolizes the establishment, which is so popular these days, Brian. But I think that. He wants to show once in a while that he doesn't only attack Republicans. Schumer's a fat target.

So, I want to bring you something within the media world. CBS News employees received a note. That it looks like the CEO from David Ellison announcing the acquisition of the Free Press and the appointment of Barry Weiss, the CBS News editor-in-chief. She said, I'm confident that in the coming years, CBS News and the Free Press will make big strides and be at the forefront of the much-needed transformation in how news is gathered, reported, and delivered.

So, how will things change there? I enjoy listening to and reading the Free Press. I think she does a great job as a broadcaster. She clearly is a great writer.

So, and they describe the Free Press as conservative-leaning. I never considered it conservative-leaning, but they describe it that way. What changes at CBS? What do you project it'll be like?

Well, first of all. These liberal idiots who are attacking her as incompetent and so forth. I didn't notice they. creating something from scratch and selling it for a hundred million dollars. There's a little bit of jealousy here in my view.

But secondly, I mean CBS is a huge organization. And she will have a learning curve. Uh she's gonna suddenly have, you know, 500 new assistants. And I wrote a column today defending her because I interviewed her this year. And she said, I said, how did you get to the New York Times?

She said, Howie, I was a diversity hire. And she acknowledged to me that she sobbed at her desk when Trump won in 2016, but turns out she liked some of his first, not all, but some of his first term policies.

So I think the free press, they did an incredible job with it. That's going to remain independent. But look, it's going to be a while before you can turn CBS news around. There's a lot of resentment toward her, which is unfair. The people who are criticizing her, they don't really familiar with what she does.

They just repeat the same misinformation, BS. Yeah, I think things could go in the right direction. I think that she's somebody to me who's just open, who gets up every day and judges Trump like a president. Oh, I don't like this policy, I like this policy, rather than getting up every day. He shouldn't be there.

He's not worthy of the office, unhinged. You know, he treats him more like Bush or Clinton type. Kind of a throwback.

So we'll judge it. You know, so I find that, I find the whole thing. Really interesting that they would make that type of dramatic move, but that's interesting that Paramount did not like the status quo. She's been on the job one day.

So, where are the changes? I'm kidding, because getting attacked the way she has unfairly slimed in my view. Um, before you, you know, let her be there a month and we'll see. I mean, she's now going to be in charge of 60 minutes, uh, CBS mornings, CBS Sunday morning. You name it.

She's very smart, very talented, and her podcast guests have ranged from Marco Rubio. to Andrew Cuomo. To Woody Allen. And she gave Woody Allen a hard time in that 98-minute interview. And lastly, Governor Cuomo was on trying to be Mayor Cuomo on The View yesterday, and one of the lines that stuck out with me is when he said the Democratic Party is in the middle of a civil war right now.

You have me, who's a regular Democrat, and then you have the Socialist wing. And that's really what I'm fighting against. I agree with Governor Cuomo. Do you? I think this is I think it was smart of him to go on the view.

He did get pressed about the sexual harassment allegations, which he retreats to his standard language about.

Well, if anyone is offended, Uh I feel bad about that and I won't Try to kiss somebody unless they initiate it.

So that did come up. But look, this is all about stopping Mom Dani, who kicked Cuomo's ass in the. In the primary, he's the Democratic nominee. And even though Eric Adams has dropped out, Um, I think, even in a one-on-one, I think Mamdani, a lot of people are uncomfortable with his. Self-declared socialist policies, government-run grocery stores, and all of that.

Um But I think he's on track to win. I don't think Cuomo is close enough, but certainly he has a lot more experience than a. Assemblymen from Queens.

Well, they're both from Queens, actually. One thing about Cuomo, he does have experience. You can't fault that. Eric Adams is out, and Curtis Lee was still in double digits, a solid third. But you have to, if he dropped out, the theory would be Republicans would go to Cuomo.

We'll have to see. He's got such a troubled past. Interesting times. Howie Kurtz, thanks so much. Always appreciate it.

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This is the Brian Kill Me Show. Sponsored by Previgen. Previgen made for your brain. I know that you did his podcast, New Heights, which, by the way, I have done, and since I've done his podcast, they've won every game. Jack, you know what?

Don't think I didn't notice that. Thank you. Yeah, and so. I don't want to thank you. I don't want any credit.

Let's just say that. Yeah, let's not jinx anything. Let's sort of. But but it did happen. It did happen.

We have to acknowledge certain superstitious things that cause a streak of winning.

Now Lawrence goes down, has to get up. Breaks the tackle. Jacksonville. There goes the streak. Jaguars beat the Kansas City Chiefs with 30 seconds left.

Trevor Lawrence falls down on his own, gets up, and then runs in the end zone after an interference call. And the Chiefs have lost again. And that was Taylor Swift on. Uh, on uh the tonight show uh yesterday to announce a new album, which is uh stunningly successful. Uh, I have not listened to it, I probably will have to run into it because it's played on every uh every cut.

I have nothing against her at all, uh, but I do notice that the Kansas City Chiefs have, you know, they got a tough schedule. But they are not doing well this year. And another great team, the Ravens, not doing well this year. But you can't blame Taylor Swift. She's not even on camera.

She's moved away from the camera. She's not even a distraction.

So I think that was intentional. After she got engaged, you see her pushing back. The one thing I've not done, by the way, just announcing the Canadian leader has met with the president. They're meeting outside the White House, I think, to finalize the trade agreement, his second visit to the White House since becoming prime minister. We'll follow that.

The one thing I do want to talk about before we leave is what's happening in Portland, what's happening in Chicago. A judge stopped the National Guard from going into Portland, and I find that sickening because nobody else is helping out our ICE officials, our ATF, our Border Patrol. They're being attacked constantly by these protesters. But what's really getting me now, Texas National Guard, it's on its way to help out in the second city in Chicago because we have a mayor that says. The president's going after black and brown people, and basically says, do not cooperate.

And we have. Transmission over the radio of cops being told don't help out ICE officials.

So I'm just. Just astounded that we've gotten to this point that now you have to call in the National Guard to help out cops instead of cops helping cops. Here is Caroline Levitt yesterday, cut 26. Ultimately, in the case in Los Angeles, that judge ruled in the Ninth Circuit, that that panel of judges ruled that those troops could remain and that the president was well within his authority to do so.

So we are appealing that decision. As you know, we expect a hearing on it pretty quickly. And we're very confident in the president's legal authority to do this, and we're very confident we will win on the merits of the law.

So that means the National Guard will go in. The hope is when you bring in some federal forces, whether you like it or not, the message will be crackdown on crime while Trump's coming back to help out the citizens. Also, a known gang member of the Latin Kings, whatever you are rising up in the Latin King gang community, I'm not familiar enough with them. This guy personally put bounties on the heads of people on the ICE officials, saying 2,000 to hurt, 10,000 to kill. They caught him, they arrested him.

That is the type of people that are causing havoc. In Chicago. All the president wants to do is protect them, and all the mayor and governor want to do is help out their political fortunes. Same thing in Portland, Oregon. Hope people can see through all that.

One's trying to fight crime and one's trying to support it. You listen to the Brian Kill Meet Show.