ICE Under Attack

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We're going to be joined by Ambassador Michael Oren, former Israeli Ambassador to the United States.

Well, I'll zoom that so you'll be able to see it. And you'll also be able to see this if you're zooming on Zoom now, or excuse me, watching the feed, because Todd Lyons, the acting ICE director, is also in studio. President of the United States has got a busy day. He's going to be welcoming President Erdogan of Turkey to the White House. Maybe he wants to ask him why he keeps on buying Russian oil and why he uses their missile defense system, but he wants F-35s.

So we'll see how that meeting goes, and we'll carry the press conference after. Before we get to the acting ICE director, let's get to the big three. Number three. By the way, another piece of what is unprecedented and a bit historical about that race, it is the closest presidential race in the 21st century in terms of the outcome. Not true, not close to being true.

Kamala's book tour reminds us daily how lucky we are that she lost as she struggles to communicate her own story while alienating her own party and former boss. Number two.

Well, it certainly is a switch from the position that President Trump earlier took with regard to Ukraine's prospects in the war with Russia. You recall, he's changed his tune completely now. He says not only that, that they can win the war and drive Russia out of the territory it has conquered since the invasion. It's a change. It's a massive change and it's a welcome one.

Donald Trump kicks Putin to the curb and goes all in for Ukraine. How could this actually save the West? But does he risk splitting his party? Number one. Masked men jumping out of unmarked cars, people disappearing, no due process, no oversight, zero accountability happening in the United States of America today.

People ask: well, is authoritarianism you're being hyperbolic? Bull, we're being hyperbolic. He's being hyperbolic, disingenuous. He's an actor posing as a governor. ICE under attack.

More shootings, more protests, more irresponsible democratic fear-mongering on the agents that have them in severe danger while they try to take the dangerous illegals off the streets. Case in point, the attack in Dallas on Wednesday. And with that, Mr. Director Todd Lyons, thanks so much for joining us. Thanks, Mario.

I appreciate it. We ended the show yesterday with a shooting. We hear about a sniper on a building next door taking aim at an ICE facility. What could you tell us that has developed since? It's been 24 hours.

Yeah, so we've been really focused on really trying to drill down and work with the FBI, figure out who this guy is, right? Figure out why he was doing that. Obviously, Director Patel posted those photos yesterday that That showed the anti-ice rhetoric written on those shell casings, right? It literally said, they literally said it's not a nuance. No, no, and you know, it's not hyperbole, right?

It's clear. Clear as day, spelled out right there on the shellcase. And when you look at what he did. He fired so many rounds into the building itself, right? And then he didn't even know there were detainees in that vehicle.

He was just shooting because they were ICE vehicles. Detainees weren't even out of the vehicle. That's who was hit. Three detainees. Yep, three detainees were hit.

One unfortunately died. Two were in critical condition. But he was just firing into ICE vehicles. He wasn't aiming. Specifically, at the detainees, or he was just his target was ice, and it's proven by the amount of rounds he put into the building and vehicles.

And, Todd, Mr. Director, do you feel as though Dallas has been a problem? Like, do your agents have told you that they're getting a lack of cooperation in that city? No, actually, Dallas has been a great cooperation. Dallas County Sheriff's great partner.

We get a lot of arrests out of there, they turn people over to us. Texas Department of Public Safety, great partners. I have no idea why the ICE office has been targeted almost three times now. Um, almost a month of the day, we had that bomb threat. Gentleman came to the building saying he had a bomb strapped to him.

July 4th, they had the ambush, the military style ambush. A Vice Officer's Del Varedo facility just 40 minutes outside Dallas. It's really getting bad. And do you have a consistency to it? Is there a consistency to the attacks, the types of people that are doing it, or financing behind it?

You know, we're seeing obviously an increase, right? Starts off with threats, starts off with just. Resisting arrest. To now ambush style attacks.

Now we're in a sniper attack in a major city. You know, we're working hard because that's what we want to do. We want to track the money that's funding these people, right? We are where does he see a theme? A lot of it's left-leaning.

that we're seeing a lot of the red river coming from. And that's what we need to focus on. You know what's so interesting? I talk to you and I want to talk to you about how you're getting illegal immigrants out of the country. But I find myself talking to you a lot about attacks on your agency before they can do it.

I mean, you're doing, instead of you answering questions about investigating on the subjects, we're talking about investigating attacks on you. Did you anticipate this? No. No, I never anticipated with the way that many, so many people, you know, the American population voted for patrol. President Trump's vision of taking the worst of the worst out of the communities.

I never thought I would have to send. More law enforcement to secure law enforcement agents doing a law enforcement mission.

So, here is a little of what the politicians are. are making everything worse. Cut five. Donald Trump's modern-day Gescapo is scooping folks up off the streets. We are not used to our government censoring.

chilling speech. Um, disappearing people. This is Gestapo-like. Behavior. Where Plain clothes officers.

Wearing masks. are terrorizing Immigrants So when you hear that Don't you think that Does logic tell you that relates to the amplification of attacks on your guys? 100%. You know, to me, that's just vile and disgusting. They're villainizing the men and women of ICE.

You know, they say plain clothes officers jumping out of a van. We post on our social media page, the worst of the worst, we post those arrests we're making. The offices are clearly marked. Vest their badges, identifying what agency they're with. And you know what?

They wouldn't have to wear the masks. If People like that. Or elected officials weren't calling us Nazis, Gestapos, calling for threats like that, calling for people to actively resist us. Elected officials shouldn't do that.

So, you know, pretty much in 2020, there were a lot of idiots and irresponsible people saying to fund the police, reimagine police. And James Carville, Democrat, came out and said, This is probably the worst thing I've ever heard any political party get behind. And they have since denied it. But is there anything I think this is worse? Do they not understand that these are law enforcement officials?

They're Americans trying to get illegal immigrants out of our country or find out what their visa status is and see where they belong? No, and that's a frustrating thing, Brian, is they don't take the time to educate themselves on who are actually arresting. Ice hasn't. Change their tactics. Since the Biden administration President Obama's administration, we're still doing the same long-force mission.

They were scaling you down. Didn't Biden come in and knock your numbers down? Yeah, we were we were our recruiting was down. We couldn't backfill positions. We didn't have enough officers to address the threats.

But now that we're actually out there, now that we're actually being allowed to do our law enforcement mission, They're frustrated with it. Why are you wearing masks? Gavin Newsom's quote was: What are they afraid of? We're afraid of the threats That his type of rhetoric. Here's exactly what he said a couple of days ago.

I thought about you. Watch this. It's like a dystopian sci-fi movie. Unmarked cars. People en masse, people quite literally disappearing, no due process, no rights.

This is a disgrace. This is an outrage. what we have allowed to happen in this country. Ice? Unmask.

What are you afraid of? What are you afraid of? What are you afraid of? Does he know better? Is he there for the applause line?

Does he? Does he not understand why it's necessary? Why don't you tell him? He doesn't understand it because. that threats in the doxing came out of his state.

We did an operation with the Secret Service in Los Angeles where they were doxing ICE agents. putting their families, their kids' Instagrams on telephone polls. Calling them out for targets in danger. That's why we're doing it. We didn't have to wear masks in the past.

It wasn't until this rhetoric started. Nazis Gestapos. The threats against us, did that did we have to start doing that? Miss sucked. We all know this in the country.

Nobody wants to wear, I mean, there's some people that still want to wear them, like Ben Affleck's daughter at the UN, but most people, nobody wants to wear a mask.

So, if you ask these guys, they got to be lean, everything's got to be tight, they don't want anything on them, they don't need to work, they'd much rather not wear masks. No, look at that. Because you can still see their badges, right? You still see their badges, you know, their badge numbers clearly visible. You see police ice or police ATF.

You know, Brian, it's not even ICE. It's the FBI having to do it now. ATF's having to do it because there's such this rhetoric just against law enforcement.

Well, people doing the mission. But again, We're out there resting. Really bad people. You know, in Chicago, when they're blocking us from trying to make an arrest, or they were doing that. Yeah.

Tell people what happened over the weekend.

So over the weekend, we've had Um, people protesting, slashing tires, they tried, uh, we had elected officials trying to block our vehicle. That had a guy in it. That did nine years in prison for strangulation, domestic violence, multiple. um assault on people. But y that's the people they want to try to free and get out of those vans.

Do you think it's or like when you know what it's like when someone loses their temper at a bar or whatever? Would you look at this and go, this is organized? They've done their research, they know where we're going to be, they're almost ahead of it, they seem to be coordinated. I understand probably. These protests in Chicago, it wasn't people just out there at the First Amendment.

If you're going to go out there and peacefully protest, then why are you transporting in shields? Bats, rocks. C S gas Right? That's not First Amendment. That's not sticking up for your right to free speech.

That's out there, you want to battle with the cops and make a statement.

So, how did DC work for you guys? DC worked great. The combined effort, that whole government, President Trump's vision of making DC safe again, it was amazing. You made them transfer to a sanctuary city, though. We did.

We did. You got rid of the sanctuary city because Federal City. We did. And they they worked side by side with us. We were out with the Metropolitan Police Department, the Transit Police, as they're encountering these criminal aliens.

And you know, the cops on the ground, they know it's these habitual offenders that they see going through the turnstile of detention. That could be turned over to us, that caused them problems daily. They were happy to turn them over to us now.

So I remember in Los Angeles, if I remember correctly, a couple of months ago when you guys are doing an operation, some of your guys got surrounded. You needed help. The LAPD was slow to come. They're not supposed to help you out under these sanctuary city laws. That is one of the reasons why the president said we need National Guard.

So if you're going to let LAPD help, I'm going to get you. I'll be your backup. Right. I mean, is that the scenario that took place? Yeah, and you know, that's what it was.

When we have, you know, a prime example, the first night of the riot on January 6th, we had ICE senior officials. My friends, my level, that were in the facility visiting. That they were under siege, they themselves had to put on their tactical gear, shoe pepper balls, as you know. High up senior ICE officials because they were surrounded and there was no one to come to help them. Unbelievable.

So, and then you had the operation there.

Now you have Operation Midway.

Now you're moving into Memphis. You're going to be a key, you guys are key movers and shakers in that. While doing operations in all 50 states, it looks like the numbers you guys are have deported 600,000. Yep. And if you look at the number that they're saying over 2 million have already self-deported because I think people realize that, you know, President Trump's given the opportunity to come back in legally and live the American dream, right?

Back in a moment, more with the acting ICE director Todd Lyons in lieu of the big shooting yesterday. We got to get to the bottom of this and it's got to stop. Don't move. Diving deep into today's top stories. It's Brian Kilmead.

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This is the Brian Kill Me Show. A governor who is saying that he does not want ICE agents to put masks on, and they're doing that for their safety because there's a threat to them and their family out there, as we saw with the shooting today and the threats that come in daily to them. But this is the same governor who forced two-year-olds to wear masks during COVID, and he wielded executive power to muzzle people. And so I think he thinks that he just has ultimate power to do this. And he doesn't.

And that's one of the best governors in the country, certainly the most effective, Ron DeSantis, talking about the idiocy of a governor of California demanding that ICE agents take off their masks. Keep in mind, the acting director Todd Lyons is here. You just told me that now your FBI and ATF are doing the same thing. These are federal officers. He has no say over you guys, right?

No, no, he doesn't have any say. What is that theater? I think that's all it is, is political theater. He's just making a statement. But again, is he going to pit California state police or local police to try to arrest federal agents for doing their job?

It would never happen. But again, that's pitting us against each other. But what I would love to see is. How come he didn't put out a bill? For the protesters in LA, they were all masked.

that are constantly out there causing harm and mayhem, but they can run around and do whatever they want. But ICE officers and agents that are out there doing a sworn law enforcement mission, we're the bad guys. Right. And there's an investigation right now about what happened in Dallas and the FBI is handling that. They're taking the lead on that.

So there'll be a press conference a little bit later. But you talk about vilifying. Wasn't Hillary Clinton yesterday cut sixteen? We have got to stop demonizing each other.

Now, I think most of that right now in our country's history is coming from the right, coming from people who want to dominate. They want their point of view. We have got to stop with the finger pointing and the scapegoating. But it came from the right. I'll finger point, I'll scapegoat the exact opposite.

Not acknowledging Charlie Kirk, not acknowledging what happened yesterday. No, and if you look at it, it's all. Democratic elected officials that have called the for the violence or called for the doxing of the threats of my oh you know, officers and agents.

So I People are saying, you know what, you're going to get the worst of the worst, but you're picking up people that are just overstaying their visas, been here a long time, are in threat. You're picking up short order cooks and farm workers. What's the reality? You know, the reality is that we're enforcing the law the way it's written.

So while we go out there and we are arresting these bad guys, these ones that are arrested or released from sanctuary cities, if we encounter somebody that might be in that car on a traffic stop or in the house when we go arrest this person, you're here illegally. And you don't have a right to be here, you're going to get arrested too. You're going to be held accountable. But there's over 1.5 million people that have been lawfully ordered removed from the United States.

Now, they just ignored a federal judge's order to go back to their home country. We have to find those two. We have to have a rule of law. We just can't turn a blind eye like we've done so many years.

Something else you're doing.

So you capture me. I come across the border illegally. My asylum claim is going to get heard, right? Yeah. So for mostly, you get it.

If it's Joe Biden or Barack Obama, you get a paper, come back in six years for your hearing.

Now, what's changed? What's changed now is we're following the law where if you do have an asylum claim, you'll be held and you'll hear it in a timely fashion. It gets due process. Within six months, because after six months, you got to let people go. Yeah.

So one thing with ICE is that people think we just hold people indefinitely. We can't. The Supreme Court decisions that we can't. But we hold people to remove them. It's not pure.

Not to punish. No, we don't punish people. We're holding them in the country to get their country to take them back. But we also know, we've seen in the last administration, so many people were released, and now they're just running around the country. To your point, in New York City, there were court dates out to 2037.

You know, so how do you do that? How do you let somebody in in 2022 and then, oh, you come back and see a judge in 2037?

So what you're doing now is you try to get the third country involved. You have countries that want to cooperate. We saw with El Salvador. And then you have Uganda comes to mind. Sudan seems to be open to it.

So you take a guy from Guatemala or, excuse me, Venezuela, and the country says, I don't want him back.

So your hands were tied. Not anymore. Not anymore. And people think that this is something new. President Trump just is, you know, created a new law.

No, this has been in the Immigration and Nationality Act for decades. We always had the option to send someone to a safe third country, but other administrations wouldn't allow us to do it.

Now, if a violent person Doesn't you know, their country won't take them back and we have another country that will take them? Absolutely. We're going to go ahead and remove them.

So I I crossed during the Biden years and I'm living in New York City. Living on the free housing, getting my free food, living so I'm here and my desk ticket says twenty thirty two. If are you going to look to get me?

So to get me pull me out and send me back to my country? What we're doing is we're adding more immigration judges now. We're adding more attorneys. We want to get that backlog.

So they'll get notified. We're picking up the dates.

Now it's going to be 2026. Yeah, and these people do report into ICE offices. You you hear that um Oh, they showed up for their appointment at ICE and they were arrested.

Well, yeah. I mean, you do show up whether, you know, once maybe once a month, say, was your reporting time. But if we now have a time to get you into court and see a judge, then we're going to do it. We're just not going to let you run around the U. S.

free. Have you deputized other people? Because there's only so many judges in this country.

So we're working right now to work with the Department of War. to get um judge advocates And try to find other ways to get more immigration judge in the system. And the number right now, the percentage of those with criminal records that you're going for, that you have, have have targeted and 70%. 70%. And the other 30?

The other 30 of individuals that have been either ordered to ported previously, we're going to go ahead and execute those final orders, or people that we've encountered on the street when we do our operations. It's called enforcement. And don't tell me you support the police and don't support ICE. You can't separate the two. Todd Lyons, thanks for everything you're doing.

I thoroughly appreciate it. You're making the country a better place. Ambassador Oren next. Thanks, Mr. Director.

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Breaking news, unique opinions. Hear it all on the Brian Kill Me Show. All right, we are back. Ambassador Michael Warren joins us now, former Israeli Ambassador to the United States, and we're also talking about what's happening at the UN. Ambassador, We have uh France We have the UK.

We have Australia, Canada, and other nations recognizing a Palestinian state. What changes?

Now In fact, Nothing. But also everything, Brian. Good morning. Good to be with you. This is a measure that is pro forma.

France, Great Britain, Australia, Canada recognize this as a Palestinian state. They join about 135 other countries over the course of the last decade have recognized a Palestinian state. Do you see any Palestinian state out there? I don't.

So nothing has happened. But when then what does happen? First of all, The the move is Anti-Israel, it's anti-Palestinian, it's also anti-American. It's very important to understand this is anti-it's a slap in the face of the president of the United States. It's anti-Israel because These countries have recognized a Palestinian state that does not accept the existence.

Of a Jewish state, nothing except the existence of a Jewish people, which regards all of Jewish history, including the temple in which Jesus taught. as a fiction. It's a Palestinian state that teaches its own kids to kill Jews, to murder Jews. It pays murderers of Jews in Israeli prisons. This is the state they recognize.

Thoroughly corrupt, does not even control its own party, its own its own territory. Mahmoud Abbas, the presumptive head of the state, is in the 21st year of his four-year term in office.

So there you have the state they just recognized. That's anti-Israel, and it'll be used against us in international courts to try to put boycotts and sanctions against us. It's anti-Palestinian because who cheered this decision but Hamas? And every time Hamas gets nothing for gets this tremendous concession. As a reward for terror, it simply walks away from the negotiating table.

So the war in Gaza goes on, and more Palestinians get killed. It's actually anti-Palestinian. It's anti-American because the United States has signed on an agreement. 1993 Oslo Accord, signed by Bill Clinton, a Democratic president. Who said that the Palestinians, and that agreement is that the Palestinians must not declare a state unilaterally?

So basically, all these presumptive allies in the United States. And I think wasn't part of that deal with American policy. Wasn't part of that deal they were going to get most of the West Bank, all of Gaza, and there was going to be some type of bridge to both lands, and they were going to get even a portion of Jerusalem, and Yasser Arafat walked away from that. Is that true? Palestinians hold the world record, Brian, for a people who walks away from the two-state solution most frequently.

They did it well before that. They did it in 1937, 1947, when the UN partitioned Palestine into an Israeli, into a Jewish and Arab state. And then, yes, in 2000, 2001, and again in 2008, they were offered a West Bank state, almost the entire West Bank. Half of Jerusalem, we were going to redivide our capital. And yes, a tunnel to Gaza was going to be a Palestinian state.

First, Yasser Arafat and then Mahmoud Abbas, his successor, walked away from those deals.

So I think it's important to point out the origin of this.

So, when Britons control the area, and in the 30s, when they decide to divide it up and Israel becomes a state, the Palestinians who were just created, I thought, came out of nowhere. There wasn't really no Palestinians, correct?

Well, there's no Palestinian. Palace was an area. It's like saying they're Appalachians. Yeah. So they're Rocky Mountainers.

It was an area of the Middle East.

So was it the Balfour Declaration that divided it? And the Palestinians, whatever you want to call them, said, no, no, no, I want it all. And if you don't give us it all, we're leaving. And they left. And now they want their stuff back with their right of return.

No, no, you left, a country was established, you were attacked in 1948, attacked in 1967, attacked in 73, and then we know what happened in 1979, and then we know what happened in 1981, I think another conflict, and then the conflict you're currently in. But the Palestinians had what the UN gave them, but they refused to take it.

Now they want it. It wasn't just that they left, they fought to destroy it. In 1937, this is ancient history, the British divided, proposed dividing Palestine into a Jewish and Arab state. The Arabs rejected it and then went to war against the Jewish state. In 1947, the UN created these two states, and the Palestinians and other Arab countries went to war to destroy that state.

It wasn't if they just picked up and left. Yeah, they actually acted so in 2000, okay, with Bill Clinton and Ehud Barak and Yazra Arafat, they made that offer to Arafat, almost the entire West Bank, half of Jerusalem, Gaza. Arafat didn't just walk away. They launched a second Intifada. to destroy the Jewish state.

And it happens again and again again.

So it's not passive, it's very, very active. And we have to understand this. This is a crucial, crucial fact. One of the people that is most fervent in backing your story and is still bitter is Bill Clinton. Because he basically put his whole presidency spending all this time with Yazar Arafat, and he walked away from the deal that he told me he was going to take.

And he said, Well, if I take it, they're going to kill me. Great.

So now we're dealing with the turbulence today.

So here's Emmanuel Macron. This is his rationalization for, by the way, herding hostage negotiations and making this announcement. And Hamas feels as though, why give up now? We're beginning to win over the West. Cut 46.

And just perhaps to make it clear on that, I think it's a. Why yesterday 11 countries did recognize Palestine? No ch notas, I mean. It was not uh A decision taken like that, neither by UK nor by Canada nor by France. It's just a big change.

Pres President Trump is totally right. Nobody forgets the seventh of October. I went there a few days after. taking families in my in my hands and and it's We experience altogether these horrific attacks. And and and by the way, We lost a lot of French people in these terrorist attacks.

But after almost two years of war, what is the result? Once again. They killed the top leaders of Hamas.

So I I could pick that apart, but I'd like you to. You want to give me a shovel and a pickaxe on that? Let me get this straight. The Hamas launches its murderous attack on October 7th, kills 1,200. Israelis in the most horrendous way, take 251 hostages.

And there's been a war for two years, and people, Palmas leaders, have been killed.

So we should just call it quits. And that's how much win. Let it take over the Gaza Strip again because that's exactly what happens if Hamas wins. They reorganize, they rearm. They launch the next October 7th, because that's precisely what their leaders say.

They say they're going to do it 10,000 times until Israel is destroyed. And by the way, by the way, Brian, Hamas is not going to give back all the hostages because they're evil. But they're not stupid. And they know the minute they get back the last hostage, we go back and we kill them.

So there you have it. That's his answer to October 7th. And maybe we're lost in translation, but it makes absolutely, absolutely no sense to me. I mean, it just, it's laziness. It's like, well, we don't like Hamas, but we want to recognize a Palestinian state.

Well, what does this state look like? And who's running it? The Palestinian Authority. The Palestinian Authority has no credibility. One of the richest people in the region is Mahmoud Abbas, because he's taken all the aid money and made himself rich.

He's totally ineffective. He got kicked out of Gaza by Hamas. And they said there's no Hamas presence in the West Bank. That is not true. Oh, that's absolutely not true.

Tell that to the Jaredis who have been killed in recent weeks by Hamas in the West Bank, including six civilians killed in Jerusalem. Uh, just over two weeks ago, uh, and Hamas gleefully took responsibility for that. Of course, there's Hamas in the West Bank. Exactly. And everyone will, you know, the people who are in favor of the two-state solution will say that everybody knows what it looks like.

I've been involved in the peace process for over thirty years. I started off as an advisor to Yitzhak Robbie. in the early 90s. And I will tell you that nobody knows what this looks like. No one knows the borders.

No one knows who will lead it, as you say. Will it be a democratic state, will be an Islamic state, will be a corrupt state under Mahmoud Abbas. will be a state that actually makes peace. And the big sticking point in every round of negotiations, and I was in the last round of negotiations with the Palestinians, and I'll tell you this firsthand: there has never been one Palestinian leader, not one in history. Who will accept the existence of a Jewish people, a Jewish people with a real tie to this land?

As I said earlier, they don't recognize the existence of a second temple, a first temple where Jesus taught. All that archaeological evidence is all fabricated. And they will never put what they call an end to the claims, an end to the conflict. They view a two-state solution as a temporary solution until Israel is wiped off the map.

So the President, evidently, behind closed doors, meeting with Arab leaders, said, I guarantee you, I will not allow Israel to annex the West Bank. Are they looking to annex the West Bank? And are you okay with that? What the President said. The West Bank is a large area.

I think that there is significant support in Israel for annexing the Jordan Valley.

Now, the Jordan Valley separates Israel from Jordan. It's down where you find Jericho, where the Jordan River is. And that is the area that Israel may need for security reasons to prevent smuggling from. From Jordan, actually through Iran through Jordan into the West Bank. And I'm sure Israeli leaders are mulling this.

Even leaders on the center and the left, Benny Gance, one of the leaders of the center leftist opposition to Israel, yesterday in the New York Times published an op-ed calling for Israel to annex the Jordan Valley.

So I understand with the Operation Gaza City, this could take months. Even though it's it's not the biggest city in the world, but it's dense with buildings and now rubble. Do you believe Gaza City to take down Hamas once and for all Will do it when it's done, or are they going to just squirt out of there to go somewhere else?

Well, there's two answers to this. You know, people will say, wow, the mighty Israeli army can't defeat a bunch of terrorists in one city in the West Bank. Let's keep in mind, this is exactly the same army that defeated Hezbollah. which was considered not just one of the most powerful armies in the Middle East, but in the world. It's a army that humbled Iran, mighty Iran, a country ten times the size of Israel.

There's only two reasons why Israel cannot conquer Gaza City in an afternoon, and that is because of the civilian population there. And because, of course, of the hostages. Otherwise, the Israeli army could just move in. In the 1967 war, Israel took Gaza in about a day and a half.

So, because of the civilians, because of the hostages, it will take months. I have been urging in my writing in the Israeli press that we move very quickly. I don't think that President Trump has that much patience. I think he wants to see an end to the war, and I agree with that. And he wants to see the opening of peace negotiations between Israel and Saudi Arabia, and that can happen, can't happen as long as they're fighting in Gaza.

So, we would hope that the Israeli army would move very quickly. Once it does, once Gaza City falls into Israeli hands, it's going to be a process. It's a process of rooting out the remnants of Hamas. It's negotiating with the terrorists who are holding our hostages to release those hostages. And then we begin a very deep process.

And I hope I have time to say this, and that is: the world seems to believe, Brian, that Hamas landed in Gaza out of Mars, that somehow there's no connection between the population of Gaza. And Hamas, but what we know is that this is a long process. These are people who have been educated since before they could walk that the most sacred thing they can do is kill an Israeli. And we have to denazify them, literally denazify them. We have to create a different education system for the people of Gaza so that they will think about peace and not about jihad.

Going to be tough to re-educate our people. In 20 years, we began to see some progress in Afghanistan, and then we foolishly left, and now all that thinking came back. But is there an Arab the day after in Gaza, is there an international Arab presence that you might want to deal with? Have you guys, can you tell our audience anything about what it will look like when the shooting stops? I think when the shooting stops, to the degree that it will stop, there may still always be pockets.

There's always going to be terrorism in our area of the world. And listen, it's in the West as well. We get an intra-Arab force there. Certainly, we're considering it. And that international force will supervise not only security in Gaza, but also the reconstruction of Gaza, reconstruction of Gaza in a Effective way and also the re-education of Gaza.

Now, the Saudis have embarked on re-educating their young people. They used to educate their young people in a very different way to hate the West. And we saw the outcome of that back in back in 9-11. The Saudis have changed their entire education system to talk about peace, to talk about acceptance and tolerance. It can be done.

It can be done. So it has to be at the grassroots level. It's not just people patrolling streets. It's teachers in the classroom and different textbooks, which is actually going to be crucial. And of course, Israel will cooperate with this, and Israel will lend its security prowess and its means to help achieve that goal.

Iran's president yesterday says they have no interest in a nuclear weapon. Are they making moves to reconstruct their nuclear program? It seems they're making moves to reconstruct their missile capabilities. And this is a discussion we have to have. They tested one yesterday, didn't they?

Or the day before? Yeah. And and they're also providing uh very advanced missile capabilities to the Houdi rebels. Who have been shooting at us both drones and missiles, including cluster bombs. These are long-range ballistic missiles with cluster bomb heads.

These are heads that break up into many different bombs.

So that's from Iran. Hookies have no ability to create these themselves.

So, yes, and that's the answer.

So, it's an intimate discussion we have to have with our American allies in the White House. At what point? What's the red line here? What point does do the United States and Israel agree that Iran has violated the ceasefire? And what What will the United States and Israel do?

Are you recognizing the Lebanese government? Do they have legitimate power or do they have more power than Hezbollah now? Or what's left of Hezbollah? Hezbollah was still a formidable force. There we won a strategic victory, not just a military victory.

A strategic victory is that Hezbollah is not threatening us anymore, but they still have many, many thousands of rockets. They still have many, many thousands of terrorists under arms. And the Lebanese government is very legitimate, and we'd like to make peace with that government, but that Lebanese government has to disarm. Uh, Hamas, which is not going to be easy. Remember, I said earlier, even before this war, Hamas was one of the uh Hezbollah was one of the most formidable militaries, not just gold standard, they were the best.

It was at hundred thousand, hundred thousand uh uh rebels, guerrillas, terrorists under arms. But about 200,000 rockets. including very long-range rockets, very accurate rockets. Not many armies in the world have that. And so we have defeated the militarily.

Now, the big question is: can the Lebanese government demilitarize Hezbollah? And reclaim control of the market. Not themselves. They're going to need help.

Well, they're getting help. They're getting help the United States, but they need more. Imagine how much arms you have to give to the Lebanese army so it can begin to equal Hezbollah. And then it has to take on his balloon. And they got to make sure those arms don't end up in Hezbollah's hands because you don't know how loyal the Lebanese army is.

The Syrian president.

So far, you're saying the right things. You're feeling. About the former Al-Qaeda terrorists? He's a former Sharai is a former member of Al-Qaeda, it's true. He claims he wants us to bring about a different Syria.

Okay, let's explore it. Certainly let's explore it. Let's begin by talking about our border issues, because we do have border issues. And let him prove it. Syria is a very Unstable countries, a country that was cobbled together by the French from many different ethnicities and religious groups.

We've seen now how the same government of Al-Shara, which pledges peace, has turned around and massacred, massacred its own Alawite citizens and its own Druze citizens. Massacred in ways that very much resembled October 7th. And okay, let him prove that Syria is different, and let him prove that he can survive. Um because uh Syria is held together traditionally, historically. By brute and central force.

That's what the Assads did. Let's see if he has it. Let's see if he's alive in another year. At least the mostly Sunni country were controlled by a Shia Alawite section.

So maybe the majority would rule there. I don't know. I guess they're diverse. Yeah. Ambassador, complicated area.

You're so close to getting to peace in the region because of the effective military operations that almost everybody told you not to do. Ambassador Michael. And because and because of the support we get. From the White House. Absolutely with this president.

Ambassador Michael Oren, thank you so much. Appreciate it. Back in a moment. It's Brian Kilmeid. Hi, this is Dave Anthony.

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Well, moments after we taped our show last night, the Mad Red Hatter wrote, I can't believe ABC fake news gave Jimmy Kimmel his job back. You can't believe they gave me my job back. I can't believe we gave you your job back. Right, so it just continues to be. I mean, do you see the numbers in terms of he's had one Republican guest on it was Mike Lindell, and he just made mocked him?

And did you see that 97% of his monologue is anti-Trump? I didn't see those numbers, but it doesn't matter.

So I'm not saying take him off the air. but it is a DNC, it is like a DNC channel. With some actors on, you know, and some skits. There's no even skits.

So that's what the president's talking about. You know, should they be banned? No, but to me, if you want to double your audience, Have other guests? From the Fox News Radio Studios in Midtown Manhattan, it's the fastest-growing radio talk show. Brian Kilmead.

Hi everyone, so glad you're there. This hour we're going to have to talk to Josh Holmes of the Ruthless Podcast, former Chief of Staff to Senator Mitch McConnell. We'll get into the shutdown. He's been through almost all of this before, and of course, doing a great job on Ruthless with the podcast they put together during the pandemic that Fox just purchased.

So there's here, so Josh is going to be with us. Mark Thiessen is standing by, but Mark Thiessen is dealing with Uber Eats, has not arrived, and he says, I'm not coming on the air until it arrives.

So I'm going to buy some time with the big three. Number three. By the way, another piece of what is unprecedented and a bit historical about that race, it is the closest presidential race in the 21st century in terms of the outcome. That you see. It's just not true.

I mean, what the hell? And nobody says anything. Nobody says anything. They just go, oh, okay, sounds good to me. Kamala's book tour reminds us daily how lucky we are that she lost as she struggles to communicate her own story written in her own book while alienating her own party and former boss.

Number two.

Well, it certainly is a switch from the position that President Trump earlier took with regard to Ukraine's prospects in the war with Russia. You recall, he's changed his tune completely and now he says not only that, that they can win the war and drive Russia out of the territory it has conquered since the invasion. I love it. Bridhum, surprised by it, Trump kicks Putin to the curb and gets all, goes all in for Ukraine. How this could actually save the West, but does he risk splitting his party?

Number one. Masked men jumping out of unmarked cars, people disappearing, no due process, no oversight, zero accountability happening in the United States of America today. People ask, well, is authoritarianism you're being hyperbolic? Bull, we're being hyperbolic. What an actor and what a joke.

ICE under attack. More shootings, more protests, and more irresponsible Democratic fear-mongering on the agents that have them in severe danger while they try to take the dangerous criminals and illegal criminals off the streets. Case in point: the attack in Dallas on Wednesday. I'm not one to say, well, because you said this, he shot him. But I'm telling you.

Governor Pritzker, Governor Newsom, Governor Waltz. May the mayors of and the attorney generals in Philadelphia, all these democratic areas, making ice. The bad guys, because they cover their face. Their own security, and now we find out ATF is going to have to do the same thing because they are getting doxxed. Mark Thiessen joins us now.

Mark, I finished the show yesterday and we're dealing with the Dallas shooting. You have a guy just spraying the ice facility randomly with guns, took his own life, How you have to be able to tie that rhetoric to those twisted actions. Absolutely. Look, it's giving license to lunatics and radicals to commit acts of murder. I mean, you know, there was a poll that came out, a YouGov poll, that shows that the number of conservatives who say that violence is acceptable for political means, it's like I think 88% say never, under no circumstances is it acceptable.

Among the left, it's between 65 and 55, depending on whether you're far left or left.

So, I mean, that means a sizable minority. of the of of Democrats. Think that it's okay to use political violence to achieve political ends. And the people who say they don't support that. Are the ones who are giving them license to do it with their rhetoric?

When you look, when Joe Biden says that Trump supporters are garbage, And that Republicans ought want Jim Crow 2.0. And when Kamala Harris says that Republicans are fascists, and that Trump's going to round up his political opponents using the military. What you're saying is, and quite frankly, when they start saying that ICE agents are like the Gestapo running around rounding up people, what you're saying is not that your opponents are wrong and we disagree with their policy, you're saying they're evil. And when people are evil, That gives license to take matters into your own hands.

So I think that responsible people on the left need to really take a deep look in the mirror. and stop using this dehumanizing, over-the-top rhetoric. That is telling their people, you know, the enemy is evil. We need to stop them. Yeah, here's J.D.

Vance yesterday, speaking from the heart, cut seven. You don't have to agree with my immigration policies. You don't have to agree with Donald Trump's immigration policies. But if your political rhetoric encourages violence against our law enforcement, you can go straight to hell and you have no place in the political conversation of the United States of America. And tell me if this is incendiary.

Cut five. Donald Trump's modern-day Gescapo is scooping folks up off the streets. We are not used to our government censoring. chilling speech. Um, disappearing people.

This is Gestapo like. Behavioral. Where Plain clothes officers. Wearing masks. are terrorizing Immigrants Yeah, um to where I'm at.

Illegal immigrant criminals, 70% of which have criminal records, some of which we don't take it from Cuba and Venezuela, don't subscribe to the International Crimin Criminal Investigation System.

So This is unbelievably irresponsible. I can't remember something equally irresponsible. You know what the amazing thing is too? I mean, you've just heard that from their own vo from their own words, Gestapo.

So, what did you do with the Gestapo? What did we do? What was our national policy? We went to war with them. We killed them, right?

You know, you can't go around calling people Nazis. It's deeply irresponsible. I just find it absolutely appalling. The President's changed his policies on Ukraine. I hope it sticks.

He's coming out saying not only is Russia economically on their last legs, they're a paper tiger, and they've done horrible in this war. And Ukraine can get their land back. Listen to Zelensky speaking with a bounce in a step yesterday at the United Nations Cut 18. If we will have. Such.

Long. Distance weapon from the United States, we will use it. against Moscow? We are not terrorists. Even we our people.

For today, they hate Russians because they began the war and they killed us. But all our people understand that we don't need to attack civilians. And They attacked the Prime Minister's office. Yeah, they attacked.

So if uh what would you tell somebody who works at the Kremlin today? Would you tell him to make sure he knows where the nearest bomb shelter is? First of all, they have to know where their bomb shelters up. If they will not stop the war, They will need it in any case.

So Zelensky says its country wants peace, but it has to have weapons. Weapons decide who survives. And they think they have a plan to continue to bomb up the energy sector. And if they can get permission to do the long-distance rockets into Moscow, they will. I think the President's looking to do that.

I I think he is too. I mean, look, think of think of Putin has Mm-hmm. terribly miscalculated here.

So Donald Trump gave Putin every chance in the world to show that he was interested in peace. And Putin's biggest mistake was accepting the invitation to the Alaska summit. Because what Trump did was he rolled out the red carpet for him. He gave him the prestige of a summit meeting with the President of the United States on US soil. And the implicit understanding from that was, if you accept that invitation, you're accepting the whole package, which is now you meet with Zelensky, now you meet we have the tripartite meeting, we're trying to negotiate a peace deal.

And what Putin did was he pocketed the prestige of the meeting. and then broke the deal. And refused to meet with Zelensky. And not only did he refuse to meet Zelensky, He increased his bombings. Uh uh uh his escalation.

He you know, Trump hands Putin a letter from his wife saying, For the sake of the children, let's negotiate peace. And his response to that was to bomb a kindergarten. That's a slap in the face to the First Lady. And then and then he he uh bombs the the Russia uh the Ukrainian uh cabinet of ministers uh wi effort in a decapitation strike. Then he sends drones into Poland and Romania.

Then he sends a fighter jet over the border into Estonia. These are all insults to Donald Trump. And what and how Trump is correct in saying that the reason why Russia invaded Ukraine is because Joe Biden is weak.

Well, now Putin has been testing Trump's uh resolve. And he's going to find that Donald Trump is not Sleepy Joe. You don't do that to Donald Trump. who just gave you the red carpet. In Alaska.

You don't slap him in the face that way. And I think Putin's going to find that the counterpunch is a lot harder than anything he's delivered.

So, Yermak, I think their foreign minister and Zelensky himself stated Tuesday that Trump is coming to realize that Putin's claims of total superiority on the battlefield are fairytale. And they showed him proof of it evidently behind closed doors in their meeting. And that's what General Kellogg and the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff have been telling the President that Ukraine is doing a lot better. And think about it, four years in with an army four times the size, maybe more, they could not take Kyiv. They've taken 19% of their country and moved 1% after their summer offensive.

While their economy teeters with double-digit inflation, and now they're going to be raising their VAT tax on a group, a population that already is paying more for oil and gas and are dealing with shortages because they've been bombing the refineries.

So, look, obviously, they have more people in Russia, but they need to know. that if you're going to continue to fight this war, there's a plan for them to lose it. Absolutely. I mean, look, think and by the way, they control 19% of Ukraine. They controlled 14% before the 2022 invasion.

They already had Crimea and parts of Donbass and Zaporizhia.

So they have they've gained prob you know, what, like nine percent or eight percent or some some small fraction over three years at a cost of a million casualties. I mean, they are, Trump is right. They are a paper tiger or a paper bear, whatever hell you want to call it. And if the U.S. The reason why Ukraine has not been able to drive the Russians out is because Joe Biden tied one hand behind their back before four years.

He didn't want Ukraine to win. He just wanted to stop Russia from winning. And he didn't have a strategy for victory, so he didn't let them use it. He slow-rolled the weapons. He restrained them from using them on Russian territory.

If Trump takes off the gloves off of Ukraine, And gives them weapons. And by the way, selling them, not so taxpayers aren't paying for it anymore. We're actually making a profit. And strengthening our defense industrial base and lets them use those against Russian targets, Russia's going to be on its heels very, very quickly. Russia, 750,000, according to ISW, 750,000 casualties, 250,000 deaths.

So that's, put them together, it's over a million. Ukraine's lost 60,000 and 100,000 casualties.

So they're fighting off an invasion. And they're better fighters. And I thought it was brought up to me by an acting general right now. He said to me, for the American people to think that this is us and involved them, would they want to know that the biggest army In Europe, has been taken over, taken the second biggest army in Europe and made them allies. If we lose Ukraine, we'll lose the finest pound-for-pound fighting force and the biggest army.

Why would you do that? Who has cutting-edge technology with comes to this drone capabilities? I want you to hear Zelensky's warning yesterday, Cut 20. We are now living in the city of the United States. through the most destructive arms race in human history because this time Includes it includes artificial intelligence.

We need global rules now for how AI can be used in weapons, and this is just as urgent as preventing the spread of nuclear weapons. We need to restore international cooperation, real working cooperation for peace and for security. A few years from now might already be too late. Because he's saying that drones, get this, will act without any human. Without any human design or launch.

They will do it on their own. Yeah, the arms control wasn't the solution during the Cold War, it's not just a solution during the second Cold War. The reality is there's no country in the world that is more technologically advanced than the United States. We can win an AI arms race. And the idea that we're going to have some international government string stopping China and Russia and other countries from trying to use AI in their weapons, all we would do is restrict ourselves.

But I think Zelensky should focus on winning the war in his country and not international arms control for AI. Bring you into politics and international relations. You know, there's a group of peop there's a group of Republicans who want nothing to do with this Ukraine war. That's why they stopped the funding, but they didn't agree with the tactics. They didn't agree with it.

And Trump is one of them.

So Trump, obviously, I take him at his word. He's changed as he looked at what Putin's done and he's looked at what Ukraine has accomplished.

Now the Vice President has never been on board with this.

So listen to what he said yesterday. From Concord, North Carolina, Cut 19. I believe the President is growing incredibly impatient with the Russians right now because he doesn't feel like they're putting enough on the table to end the war. If the Russians refuse to negotiate in good faith, I think it's going to be very, very bad for their country. That's what the President made clear.

It's not a shift in position, it's an acknowledgement of the reality on the ground. We're going to keep on fighting for peace every single day in the Trump administration. Read between the lines. What do you think?

So first of all, I agree that it's not a change in position on Trump. What Trump has said from the beginning is that he wanted to give Putin a chance to negotiate peace, but that if he didn't, he said this during the campaign, he said it two years before the election, that if Putin doesn't agree to peace, he's going to crush his economy and he's going to increase weapons to Ukraine.

So he's been on record as this from the very beginning. This is not just people saying this is a shift, a pivot, or something like that. No. What's happened is that Putin has made absolutely clear. that that tru that he is not interested in peace.

And Trump is seeing that now. And so he's going back to the policy that he articulated years ago. which is we're going to arm the Ukrainians and we're going to crush the Russian economy and force the in there Putin's gonna have to be coerced to coming to the peace table. If he's not gonna do it willingly.

So I don't think there's any shift in position at all right now. And Trump has never been. One of the Republican isolation. First of all, he's not an isolationist. I know there's an isolationist segment on the right.

He's never been one of those. This is the guy who just blew up the obliterated Iranian nuclear program, the guy who killed Qasem Soleimani, the guy who launched a cyber attack in his first term on the Russian Internet Research Agency in St. Petersburg. He's not an isolationist. He's never been one.

And everybody who keeps saying, and by the way, all the polls show, you look at the Reagan Institute poll, MAGA voters are not isolationist either. I don't think so, yes.

So Trump has the backing of his people. He's got the right policy. And the GOP isolationists are a tiny but vocal faction that don't represent the MAGA movement. And I just hope JD is not a charter member. Or if he was, I hope he took his membership back.

He's the apprentice right now. I think he's learning. He's been very loyal.

So there's no doubt about it. There's no murmur behind the scenes that Donald Trump has the wrong policy.

So that's one thing is clear. We would have heard that.

So, Mark Thiessen, fascinating time. I always feel good when the President reads your columns or talks to you. I think it's good for our foreign policy. Thanks, Mark. Thank you.

Back in a moment. Don't go anywhere. Brian Kilmead will be right back. The talk show that's getting you talking. You're with Brian Kilmead.

I just don't like the whole numbers. I really like that you could tell, just as like a fan, I really liked by like even like watching a jersey, looking at a jersey. I want a quarterback to wear 99. See, I don't want that. I like looking at a jersey and knowing without even knowing the guy.

What position that guy played? There was something about the numbers signifying what position you played in that I just liked. I don't know. I just was a fan of it. I don't like that now the numbers mean nothing on defense.

Anybody can wear whatever the f they want. And then on offense, you still have ineligible numbers. I agree. I 100% agree. Used to know somebody in their 50s, if you see a guy in his 50s, the number 50 on his jersey, it's a linebacker.

Wow, what a great play. He came from the other side as a linebacker, or a linebacker is up at the line. Is he a stand-up defensive end? I'm not sure. Let's say if you know your team, you know your team.

But Brian Burns is a great lineman, right? Who's also sometimes line of the linebacker? He's number zero. What does that mean? They used to be field goal kickers, you know.

So I am all for that. I have no idea why we loosened up the numbers. I want to know what a wide receiver should be in their 80s, right? The offensive lineman should be in their 60s. That's the way it should be, the 70s should be defensive linemen.

And then you can go, wow, that guy's a nose tackle, I get it. But he makes a great take to tackle by the end zone. You go, wow, what great hustle. It made it a lot easier. And if Jason Kelsey says it, I believe it.

He's so busy, he'll make your head spin. It's Brian Killmead. The The current sitting president is running for re-election. Three and a half months from the election, he decides not to run. The sitting vice president then.

takes the mantle, running against a former President of the United States who had been running for 10 years with 107 days until the election. And by the way, another piece of what is unprecedented and a bit historical about that race, it is the closest presidential race in the 21st century in terms of the outcome. You know, say that again. Because he likes to say over and over again, he's got a mandate. And well, and that's part of why I wrote this book.

History will talk about this race. It is part of American history. And it was important to me that when history is written, that my voice be present.

Okay. There is so much wrong about what she said. First and foremost, It was the closest race in the 21st century. What are you talking about? Anybody who can do meth and these idiots who go to the view.

And clap for that instead of saying, Excuse me, I remember the hanging Chad, I remember Bush Gore, that needed a month to count the ballots. Remember how close there's been very close that was not a close election. And let alone saying that she was up against it, you had 107 days. You didn't have to go through the primary process. You had over a billion dollars, and you went from an 11-point deficit to Biden to a three-point lead in September.

You blew a three-point lead because people got to know you. You didn't run out of time. You had 107 days actually too much time. Maybe Josh Holmes totally disagrees, and he feels bad because it's my show disagreeing. We're about to find out.

He's with the Ruthless Podcast. He's chief of staff for Senator Mitch McConnell, president, founding partner of Cavalry LLC. Josh, you vehemently disagree with me. Kill me, he just nailed it. I mean, first of all, I totally appreciate the YasQueen response from the ladies at the View to just absolute, abject nonsense coming out of Kamala Harris's mouth.

You're totally right. 107 days was about 75 days too long. Once everybody got a load of what she had to say and saw her clear, unqualified everything about her. Her and her campaign, she took a nosedive in the poll. I mean, the first 10 days worked out pretty well for her.

Everything after that, disaster. But she's not a great candidate. And she has trouble telling her own story. You know, the job if he was telling that she was telling the Josh Holmes story, which has yet to be told. I wouldn't mind.

I could see that she's been hesitant. But, Josh, the books that she wrote, the stories that she lived, just a year ago. I'm not asking her to remember 1971. Just a year ago, she struggles to get words out smoothly. And the stuff that she says is crazy.

And I think this is where I might differ with you. I think this sets her up for 28, even though it's going to fail. I don't think she's going anywhere. People think this is her epitet. I don't.

I think that she has nowhere to go. She's going to be I mean, you're right in that what else is she going to do, Brian? What else is she going to do? And politicians like this that make it to the stage that she has, mind you, she was within an. We're going to pop back up because Josh lives his life on a stream.

The Ruthless Podcast is on a stream.

So, and in fact, I was lucky enough to do the show in Washington, D.C. And if you're on a stream, you know they can be somewhat temperamental.

So, he's going to pop back in there. But I do want to let it be clear that I guess we do agree on this. I was on the panel on special report, and everyone thinks, including Harold Ford, that she's done, she's finished, she's through.

Well, I don't know. I think that she says by brushing back Shapiro, By calling out Walts being inadequate. By saying Newsome was taking a hike, literally taking a hike rather than helping, by saying that Joe Biden really hurt her at the end and was selfish.

So she's telling everybody, I'm making distance to my future opponents. You know the next shooter drop. Is going to be the leaks from Joe Biden's camp and others what a terrible running mate she was. She also writes in her book that she had to win over the trust. of everyone on the Biden camp, the President's camp, the White House.

Because of a line she used in a debate in 2019 when she said, I was that girl in the busing. Which is crazy because you had George HW Bush who said to about Ronald Reagan, it's voodoo economics. John Edwards was tearing up John Kerry, ends up being running mates. That's what happens all the time. Uh and for Joe Biden's cam, not to get over, and the guy's 100 years old, is crazy.

It shows a lack of understanding or. uh a very thin skin in a time in which skin shouldn't be thin.

So we'll look to get it back. I don't know um if we're gonna try to get him back. All right, we're working on it. Let's change gears a little bit and talk about the possible Uh Virginia race. tightening up and here's why This Abigail uh Spamberger may be a better Okay, uh Josh is with me.

Um Hey Josh, just final thought. I know we're on the phone now. We're not going to try the technological advances of streaming. I think it's going to be years before we get this down. I think it's going to be.

Elon Musk is going to have to tackle this directly.

So, Josh, for her, I just do think there's another page in her book. Yeah, I mean, there is another page in her book. It's not gonna be good. No, it's just not going to be good. I I just I think we've seen all the tools she has in the toolbox and frankly it's unimpressive.

But she doesn't have the capability of Having any sort of vision. At no point did she talk about what she was going to do to improve the lives of Americans. All she could do is critique her opponent. And I think once. People got to see that there was no candor whatsoever, and she wasn't going to do anything different than Joe Biden.

Frankly, she has no idea what to do. It was over. And I just don't think that's ever going to change. All right, so let's play as curious. I just want to talk about what's happening in Virginia.

We've got two races that both sides. Remember, Glenn Youngkin gave Republicans great momentum when they shocked everybody and won the Virginia election. You can only have one term.

So his lieutenant governor, Winsom Sears, is running. She's trailing about about eight. But suddenly, this race is about gender again. And Spamberger's background on gender is very similar to, and they have an issue too in Virginia. They're very similar to Kamala Harris's, right?

Be tolerant.

So she's trying to talk away out of the fact that she really believes that trans men belong in girls' locker rooms in this big uproar.

So listen to her, Cut 36, as she tries to talk away out of this.

So if a bill landed on your desk and it had to do with restrooms or sports in this situation, I mean, would you support a bill that allowed this if it landed on your desk? I would support a bill that would put clear provisions in place that provide a lot of local ability for input based on the age of children, based on the type of sport, based on competitiveness. Because certainly I recognize, I absolutely recognize, I'm the mom of three daughters in Virginia Public Schools. I recognize the concern that families and community members might have about the safety of their own kids, about competitiveness, about fairness. And I think that what the process that was in place for 10 years was one that was working.

It was one that took individual circumstances and individual communities into account. And I think that is... I can't hear it anymore. Josh, this is absolutely talking in a circle. The process in place allowed trans boys to go into girl.

locker rooms and she does not want to say it. No, that's the best politician answer ever. It's like: garble, garble, garble, local input, read my bio. I hope you forgot what the question was. I mean, you know exactly what the she she wants to do.

She doesn't want to take a stand on this, but she knows where voters are. And this is kind of a troubling issue for Democrats, even in the bluest state. And I look, I'm not going to lie and say Virginia is not a very challenging state, particularly in an off year where your turnout could be Could be subjected to the northern Virginia suburbs, which turn out at a huge number, which is challenging for Republicans. All that being said, they're having the conversation they don't want to have if you're a Democrat. She doesn't want it, but Winsom Sears needs it.

She needs something to catapult it. She needs Junkin to drag her across there, and she does not have Trump's endorsement.

Now, in New Jersey, uh, This candidate Um we're looking at Micah. Uh her last name is eluding me. Mikey Cheryl. She, this woman, is the worst. She had when asked, and this ad's running, when asked.

about what our agenda is going to be. She says she had no idea what she would do if she was governor today. And then she's asked about $7 million that she earned investing in stocks while in the House. She says, I don't really know. That's her answer.

Now, Jack Chitterolle lost by three last time against a sitting governor. It's about a seven-point spread. You know that New Jersey was trending towards Trump in a way that not many people thought possible. With that train wreck of a state with all the potential that it has, what do you see here? Yeah, I did.

So New Jersey is really interesting to me, Brian. It's one of those states, as you mentioned, that has trended more Republican. It certainly got more Republican in the Trump years. That message has resonated more deeply than the Republican message of the past. And we have gotten darn close.

It's tough to not feel snake bitten by New Jersey because, you know, over the last 20 years, every time other than Chris Christie, you get close, it just kind of never can close the door on it. But I'm really interested this time around because, as you said, Mikey, Mickey Sherrill, terrible candidate. terrible candidate. The state needs some competent leadership. I think this might be the time.

That's the one that I'm really closely watching here in a few weeks. And that will stop Democrats from saying we got great momentum going into the midterms. We'll see what happens. I want to bring you to another area, and that's the vilification of ICE that we see taking place. I can't believe we, after we got through to fund the police, I thought we'd never go there again.

But law enforcement under attack, listen to some of the things that they've been saying about ICE and leading, in my view, directly to the shootings and incidents. One we saw in Chicago last weekend when ICE agents got surrounded, and then we see a sniper shoot into an ICE building yesterday in Dallas. Listen to some of this rhetoric, cut five. Donald Trump's modern-day Gescapo is scooping folks up off the streets. We are not used to our government censoring.

Um chilling speech. Disappearing people. This is Gestapo-like. Behavior. Where Plain clothes officers.

Wearing masks. are terrorizing Immigrants This is stuff that it's not stopping. We watched Pritzker and Newsome. Watch Newsome on Colbert's couch yesterday, and then we watched this shooting. Is there going to be any pullback at all?

You know, it's just so depressing, Brian. And here's the thing: it's hard for well-adjusted human beings to listen to any of that and do anything other than just sort of shake your head. Remember, these people, all these people, as crazy as it is, have a significant constituency that listens to them. that that listens to their anxiety and reacts accordingly. And they're broadcasting this all to millions and millions of people, people who have voted for them.

So If you're one of these people, it's just sort of listening to Gavin Newsome or J.B. Pritzker or all these. psychopaths who are absolutely putting ICE in a dangerous position, you think that you're on the brink of civil war. And you can also understand where the least mentally competent, the disturbed amongst us, Might think they need to take action on that. This is not a far leap to suggest that they have created, not only created this problem, but incentivized crazy people to do a bunch of crazy things.

It is dangerous. It needs to stop, but there is just a total failure. within the Democratic Party to do anything because they're scared of their base. They're scared of the base. They said it.

They've been saying it for months. We're not going to say anything to these people. They're so angry. We can't let any air out of the balloon.

Well, that's how you get a really dangerous recipe in American politics. Unfortunately, we're all living through it right now. I mean, Senator Fetterman is is probably the only one. He's the mansion of, I guess, this term. But I just do think that, you know, if Governor Bashir stepped up, You know, these people that are on the sideline of Governor Shapiro and saying they're doing what they're supposed to be doing.

You might not like it, but let law enforcement do their job. We just had Todd Lyons on, and he said not only are they leaving their masks on because they're being doxxed, it looks like ATF is going to do the same thing. Because for their own family's protection. Yet you had a governor in California that says, if you do that, I'll arrest you.

So can you imagine the LAPD trying to arrest an ICE agent? That's what could happen. I don't think it's going to happen, but that's what he said. Yeah. It's patently absurd.

I mean, Shapiro is particularly disappointing. I mean, this guy's own house is firebombed, and he still can't speak any truth to the Democratic-progressive base at this point. I mean, these things are crazy. Look, we're tomorrow, Brian, tomorrow, Chuck Schumer, the leader of the Senate and the Democrats, he's going to shut down the government. because he can't tell his base that it's okay to keep the lights on in the Capitol.

I mean, these people are in a really, really bad place. You're right. Fetterman might be the one. who has said anything. But you're looking for real leadership and people who have microphones, and the elected leadership of Democrats are doing the exact opposite.

So that's what I want to get to. You work with Mitch McConnell for years. You know, he's been in charge of that minority, majority leader. And he knows where you said he always can predict where this goes. As soon as Schumer got vilified for doing the right thing last time, and I rarely say that, he said, listen, we have no leverage here.

We got to just do a continuing resolution. And they say, well, you're weak. And you let us down. I guess he wasn't honest with the house. But who took a stand and gave speeches, and then he just acquiesced.

So, having said that, he knows. We're going to get blame for this. But now do you think tactically, PR wise, Republicans will effectively message correctly here that they do have fifty four votes in the Senate? Yeah, I think I think they've already done the right thing in setting this up. Get it through the House, make it the Senate's problem, unify a Senate Republican conference, which Dune is done ably here, and then just point it to the Democrats.

And what they're saying basically to the American people is: we're not going to give you any federal government service. For any of your taxpayer dollars, unless you make sure that we fund healthcare tax credits for illegal immigrants. Uh, that we revise all the waste fraud and abuse that we eliminated out of the Medicaid program. And oh, by the way, what we really want is for you to refund NPR and PBS because without a taxpayer-subsidized propaganda outfit, boy, our country can't live another day. It is just an outrageous deal.

What I think they should do, Brian. Is let these guys take the vote, hand the microphone over to Donald Trump, and let's see how it works out. Because he's got a few ideas without a Congress that he could get done. Yeah. Yeah.

Well, not only that, but I mean, there's never been a president who uses the bullypus pulpit more effectively than Trump does. And they just don't know what they've gotten themselves into. Look. I was in a lot of situations when I was up on Capitol Hill where Republicans had a bunch of really not great tactical decisions that put us in a difficult spot. But you have to know when to cut bait or before you make it worse.

And this guy can't. He just can't do it. Schumer can't do it because he, you know, he got AOC announcing she may run against him. He's terrified of that.

So, why are you 74 years old? Can you ever do the right thing? Josh Holmes, co-host of the Ruthless Podcast, now part of the Fox family. Thanks so much, Josh. Did a great job on out number two.

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Henry said, I skipped school. Can I have a picture with you?

Well, I guess you gotta have some excuse to skip school, so I might as well get a photo with Henry.

Now the next reporter is going to be: hey, I'm from CNN, can I get a photo with you too? I wish that I got questions that easy. I'm not holding out hope. That was funny. J.D.

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So glad you're there. It's Brian Kilmee Chill coming to you from 48th and 6 in Midtown Manhattan, where cars just go in the street and just sit there. Because 150 world leaders have been all over here because of the UN. And I guess we should be used to it. I'm always going to the subways.

I have no problem with it. But in New York, everything stops when that happens. And everybody's in a rush and no one gets anywhere. And even if you're the French president, I don't know if anyone saw that video, but you see the French president caught in traffic, dying to get to the UN. He's got meetings and he can't get anywhere.

And he calls the president of the United States. That's be a nice plus. Ali Raza, Jeffersardia. Did I say that right? I probably didn't.

He's the MEK guy. He's threatened deputy director of the National Council of Resistance of Iran, former MEK guy. He's going to talk about Iran's the president's speech yesterday. And Liz Klayman's here in studio to talk about everything that's happened with the economy. But first, let's get to the big three.

Number three. By the way, another piece of what is unprecedented and a bit historical about that race, it is the closest presidential race in the 21st century in terms of the outcome. No, it wasn't. Kamala's book tour reminds us daily how lucky we are that she lost as she struggles to communicate her own story written in her own book while attending her own party while ripping up her own party and ripping her former boss. Number two.

Well, it certainly is a switch from the position that President Trump earlier took with regard to Ukraine's prospects in the war with Russia. You'll recall he's changed his tune completely. And now he says not only that, but they can win the war and drive Russia out of the territory it has conquered since the invasion. That is Britt Hume. Trump kicks Putin to the curb and goes all in for Ukraine.

How this could actually save the West and the NATO alliance, we'll discuss. Number one. Masked men jumping out of unmarked cars, people disappearing, no due process, no oversight, zero accountability happening in the United States of America today. People ask, well, is authoritarianism you're being hyperbolic? Bull, we're being hyperbolic.

Please stop pretending to be out of breath. Ice under attack. Morning shootings, more protests, more irresponsible democratic fear-mongering, like you just heard from Gavin Newsom. It goes on the agents. That's why they wear masks.

They are in severe danger. A sniper taking aim yesterday, still trying to unwind it today. And that's some of the things that are happening around the country. It's becoming a very dangerous place. Yet, the politicians have become more and more reckless.

Liz Klayman joins us now. You know her from the Clayman Countdown. He also has a fantastic podcast. Liz, welcome back. Thank you so much.

Well, Liz, we're trying to unwind where the economy is heading. I see Ray Dalio make a statement yesterday saying that he's really worried about the UK and the U.S. because of our debt. He says people aren't buying our treasury bonds like they aren't buying our debt like they used to. Where do you fall?

And he's at the macro picture.

Okay, so he's been on my show, The Clayman Countdown, and he said that we are heading toward an economic heart attack. The aorta is blocked. The widowmaker is now at 98% blocked. He's doing that analogy. And he does so by looking at the $36 trillion of debt that this country is groaning under.

I get it. It feels less immediate to most people because they see the number and they see that we continue to borrow money no matter who's in charge of the White House, Democrats, Republicans, and they just don't quite feel it. There will come a point. Although nobody really knows when that straw that breaks the camel's back, so to speak, will hit.

So when I think about what Ray Dalio is saying, he's not wrong. But at the moment this economy Is strong. We just in the last hour, Brian, got GDP for the second quarter. That's gross domestic product, in fancy term, the output of all goods and services. Not only did it hit the expected 3.3%, it jumped over it, came in at 3.8%.

That is a two-year high for growth. Phenomenal. This is what we wanted to see. It's not some incremental one-tenth of a percent. And I really was so encouraged by that.

Then we got durable goods.

So, durable goods, you guys, are the gigantic pieces of equipment that are supposed to last three to five years, or hopefully more, like washing machines, dishwashers, cars. Large trucks, things like that. That also beat by vaulting over. Very nice move. And so.

The economy looks good, which works as a negative for the stock market, which is down today and down yesterday and the down. Because they want two more cuts this year. Interest rate cuts come. normally when you are worried that you need to stimulate the economy. This economy is on Red Bull at the moment.

Let's say watered down Red Bull. Let's not be hyperbolic here. It's doing really, really well. But not the job market. Are you still worried about that?

Well First time jobless claims. We get these every week. And this is the number you want to see come down because this is how many people joined the unemployment roles, unemployment line for the first time. This also missed, but to the downside, fewer people joined the unemployment line last week and the week. Before, I think the week before.

So suddenly you're looking at it saying, well, it's not that. Bad. And continuing claims. Those are people who couldn't find a job last week, so are continuing to be on the job. You know, unemployment line, that also came in lower than expected.

So that's a good sign. What about jobs added? That's tomorrow? Jobs added Is it? No.

Is it? We're getting PCE tomorrow. We're getting the most important inflation number every month. This is August personal consumption expenditure. It's the Fed's favorite.

inflation gauge. And the one you want to look at, there are four levels to it. You don't want to look at the headline. You want to look at the core because that eliminates the, as they say, often volatile food and energy prices, which of course, I don't know how they eliminate that. This is all that we need.

We need energy and we need food. But Oil prices have been low. Which is something President Trump promised: your gasoline prices will stay low, and they pretty much have. Although we got some inventory numbers yesterday that showed a stronger-than-expected drawdown, meaning we need a bit more to fill those caverns that we have.

So, right now, Keeping the emergency reserve. Yeah, emergency reserves. And usually, when you say when the price of oil goes down, that's the time to fill it up. Absolutely. Right.

So why we're not doing that? The Biden administration borrowed against the Strategic Petroleum Reserve, which is for emergencies. And he did it. in kind of a non-emergency time. Not smart.

Of course. But you know why he did that? Yes, political reasons. Because he doesn't want to drill, but he wants the oil and gas to stay low. And he wants to convince Venezuela, you're a horrible regime.

If you promise to have fair elections, we're going to send Chevron back and we'll let you drill again.

So he stopped Americans from drilling, but he didn't do anything for the environment. But he pretended like he did. Yeah, let's always believe Maduro in Venezuela, who is a murderer. The worst of the worst, the worst of the worst. He only got 30% of the vote last time.

He probably didn't get 30, and he stayed. People are in poverty, and I don't know if you guys have ever met Venezuelans. They're lovely people. And to think that they are. You know, they can't get their cafe de leche, and and it's really upsetting, it's very, very upsetting.

And you look at this and you say, These are the people, these are these are autocrats, these are. Terrible people.

So this is how uh I don't have that economics background because when I think the they're cutting the rates, it's going to help me at the bank getting a mortgage. And now people are telling me, don't look at that. You look at the treasuries, the tenure treasuries. Could you explain why?

So the tenure treasury is what mortgage rates tend to follow. When the Federal Reserve cuts rates, This is what a lot of people don't understand. They're not cutting rates across the board, they're cutting a very specific interest rate. It's the overnight rate that the Fed charges banks. to park their money.

Now quite frankly, That's a very low rate, way lower than any of us ever gets to pay. It's at four to four and a quarter right now. I don't know about you guys, but the last time I looked at interest rates, they're anywhere from six to eight, depending on what you're doing. But your auto loans are much higher than that.

So they cut that overnight rate. and why banks are getting such a fair rate just to park their money. That really should change, quite frankly. That said, It tends to seep through, and then the tenure starts to move. The tenures actually come down.

to just above four percent.

Now remember, it had been closer to four point eight several months ago. But mortgages are still pretty high, although they just recently hit a multiyear low of just above six percent. Which is good news. Good news, except for we had uncredible news prior. We were at 3.3 and 2.3.8%.

Five years ago.

So when you have that middle-class family who says, you know, I need a bigger house. They go, well, not for 6%. I'm not. How does that make sense? If I'm going paycheck to paycheck in a good-sized house but like more room, there's not that incentive to put that dormer on or to fix up your house because you got to go borrow money that's higher than the current mortgage that you have.

It's hard. The housing market's frozen because sellers. don't want to move because they know if they move they need to find a new place that's going to be at double The 3%, it'll be at 6%-something percent. And sellers don't want to buy because psychologically they don't remember. Back when I was buying my first house, I got a 6.4% mortgage and I thought I was doing great.

Right. Compared to the 13s that we had during the call. My sister had an 8% years and years ago, and she thought she was doing great.

So you like the signs, but it's bad. The market doesn't because the market feels as though. The Fed is not going to cut rates, and that's what the market would like to use. You do understand economics. The Fed uses interest rates as a tool, dry powder.

Think of it like that. You use it to stimulate the economy in times of emergency, like the pandemic, where we cut rates way down to the bone. The issue is right now, we don't want to use up, or the Fed doesn't want to use up that dry powder right now to satisfy: look, President Trump has pushed hard for it. He wants to see lower rates. I haven't noticed.

You haven't noticed. Yeah, I really haven't. But the fact is. If you're really looking at this, the economy is strong. You don't cut rates.

Did it bother you when Steve Myron came out as a now on the Fed board and said, I'm for cutting rates, a bunch of rates, even more than that. I was for doing more of a rate cut last time. Kind of a bit of a heretic against the chairman. Did that bother you? A little bit.

Is is that unprecedented? Uh not unprecedented, but very Very unusual in several cycles. In the past several cycles, well, he's talking President Trump's book. Let's just be honest.

Now, would it kill us to cut rates another quarter of a percent? No. Nope, it would not. But think about it. You want to have foresight.

Seven years of feast, seven years of famine during the feast. You fill the cellar. With potatoes and preserves back in the olden days, right? Little House on the Prairie, Laura Ingalls Wilder. You save for when the winter comes and you know it's coming.

But you know the winter might not happen when Trump's in office, and Trump's concerned about his four years. Of course, so keep that in mind. Absolutely. You know what's unfortunate? All politicians.

They just look in a two-year, you know, same with the House. Midterms. Two-year. That's it.

So a couple of things. Treasury Secretary has met with the Argentinian leader who has done amazing things with the Argentinian economy. He's done some radical things, but it looks like they need a bailout, and he might be getting it from us. Listen. The plan is, as long as President Millay continues with his strong economic policies to help him, to bridge him to the election, you know, I call this the screens moving to the streets, we are not going to let a disequilibrium in the market cause His A backup in his substantial economic reforms.

I don't think the market has lost confidence in him. I think the market is looking in the rearview mirror and is looking at decades, if not a century, of terrible Argentinian mismanagement. And people are concerned. People are skittish. It's very hard to believe that it is different this time, but I believe with President Millay, it is.

So what do they need from us? Why are we even considering using American money to prop up somebody else's currency if we're not in a total emergency? This seems like a political emergency. Even said it. We want to stretch it till the election.

And Through the years, Argentina has been a problem child. A lot of the South American countries have been problem children. Are we going to go down and start bailing out other countries? Like, I mean, if they get into trouble, this is really, really strange. And especially because China's got a huge presence here.

Are we using that as leverage to push China out?

Well, you could also. No, they have rare earth, too. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But it and look, I get that Malay has done great things for the economy.

Well, what's wrong with their currency? Oh, it was the last guy.

So, why are we getting in the middle of that? Especially when people are already complaining about why are we paying. to give money for vaccines to Africa when our country needs the money.

Well, our country needs the money. Why are we giving it to Argentina right now? We get it back? I mean, do we get it with interest or But you don't know. Yeah.

When people say The worry is goods are, I know we're waiting on the inflation number, but I do hear. on anecdotal ways, the prices are up. And that people say, you know, this is the beginning of some tariff impact. Liz, what do you think? Yes.

But we just don't know. And it's been a surprise. Because we are getting revenue.

Now that is a cop out, Liz. Why did you just say we just don't know? We actually do.

So Scott Besant is absolutely correct. We have not seen the tariffs. Bleed over into the greater price economy.

However, I cover these guys every day. Walmart, Hasbro, Mattel, tons of companies have come out and said, second half, which is where we are right now, we're done shouldering all of this cost. We may have to start hiking prices, and we probably will. With the holiday season. Exactly.

And prices of. Materials. Like today I have the largest cement. And concrete maker in the world, CRH.

Okay, they do all the roads in the in America, everything. They do huge tunnels in Switzerland and they do the storm water system for LAX. I'm going to ask him about his pricing because this stuff is getting expensive. For the average person listening right now, look at your utility bill. Why, when we have more natural gas.

pumped out right now. This country is just swimming in it.

Well, that wouldn't be tariff. No, but everything passes through. and the equipment used to dig for it and to extract it.

Some of that material comes from overseas. And it's sort of that domino effect. And we may very well see it.

Now, I would argue if you asked any of your listeners. Have things come down in price? Nope. They may have stayed static, but I haven't seen anything at the market come down. I mean, why am I buying a box of crackers for $3?

Really? Used to be 170 or two, even a Walmart. Yeah, well, see, we'd say, yeah, I don't blame the supermarket owners as some people do. It's a business. Yeah, but they can't wait when New York gets their own supermarket.

When New York City is running their own supermarket, it's gonna be great for us. It'll be wonderful, and there will be stock shelves. And yeah, right. Who is? Who's gonna be on your show?

Okay, CRH, CEO. You've never heard of them. You drive on their roads every single day. They are, I call him the concrete king. He's coming on Kodiak Truck, just went public.

This is an American company based in California. They have rolled out totally autonomous, gigantic trucks in West Texas. Eight of them moving around, so you don't pay, there's a truck driver shortage, you don't pay the truck drivers health care, whatever, because you can't find enough truck drivers, and they They don't fall asleep at the wheel, et cetera.

So, those guys are coming on, and Qualcomm CEO. They have just come out with a chip that will be 100 times faster than human thought. Wow, that's even faster than my thought. That includes me too. Three o'clock, the Klayman countdown, FBN.

Thanks so much, Liz Klayman. We're making you guys money, hopefully. Back in a moment. You're with Brian Kilmead. This is Jimmy Phala, inviting you to join me for Fox Across America, where we'll discuss every single one of the Democrats' dumb ideas.

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Shortly after taking office, I said to so-called Supreme Leader. A letter making a generous offer. I extended a pledge of full cooperation in exchange for A suspension of Iran's nuclear program. The regime's answer was to continue their constant threats to their neighbors and U. S.

interests throughout the region and some great countries that are Right nearby. Uh, that is the president of the United States, and he's 100% right. When he took over, much to the chagrin of many people, because they wanted him to go quickly down with full sanctions on Iran, he said, Listen, let's talk, let's get this thing going. And it went five rounds. When he realized they were just spinning their wheels, he took action.

And the Israelis took the lead, and we finished off their nuclear program, which I'm sure they're to a level that they're rebuilding. But they have to do it with very little financing, with sanctions fully on. They're waiting to see if the Europeans are going to put them back on, if they're in fact in violation of the President Obama-era. A plan that would have allowed him to reconstitute after ten years. My guest is Ali Raza Jafarzada.

He is the author of the Iran threat and Deputy Director of the National Council of Resistance of Iran and part of the big protests outside the United Nations that show you how unwelcome the Iranian President was to the Iranians who have gotten out of that country and are here. Absolutely, Brian. You should have been there to see the level of enthusiasm. You show me the crowds. How many people were there?

There were thousands of them. And they came for two days. And remember, it wasn't the weekend. During the weekday, both on Tuesday and Wednesday, the first day of General Assembly, Uh and also the second day when Pazeshkan spoke, and they spoke very loud and clear, rejecting the regime, but also talking about the alternative. saying Iran does have an alternative.

They talked about Mrs. Maryam Rajabi, who heads the President Lake of the National Council of Resistance. They talked about her ten point plan for the future of Iran, saying that the future of Iran is going to be based on separation of religion and state. Uh equality between men and women, freedom of religion, freedom of political parties, freedom of the press, free market economy, and the peace in the Middle East on nuclear rise. But it's not close right now.

Unless you believe that this country, after the bombings and the humiliation as Israel, went with impunity in bombing out their sites and taking out their leaders, that they're ready to collapse. Do you believe they're ready to collapse?

Well, look, um, you know In a country like Iran with all the about close to 90 million population, a huge country. Change has to come from within by the people. On the ground. And that's the role of the organized resistance in Iran. We've talked about the MEK resistance units on the ground.

This is the same movement that exposed all the major nuclear sites of Iran, exposed their missile program, has been the main target of the killings inside Iran, but also the target of the terrorism of the Iran regime outside. They're part of this coalition, the National Council of Resistance of Iran, as the alternative.

So, of course, you need to build pressure on the regime.

So far, the policy of appeasement in the past two, three decades has significantly helped the regime. to maintain power but get money and cash and reward it for their terrorism. That error I believe as is ended.

Now you just have the United Nations basically voting to snap back all the sanctions back on the Iran regime within two days. And the proxies of the regime have been either shattered or so weak in the region. Assa, their biggest ally, is gone. Their nuclear program that they spend, it costs the around two trillion dollars for their nuclear uh programme. It's all gone.

So inside Iran, you have had these rounds of major uprisings since 2018 in all 31 provinces. People want change. Because you said they don't have water. The infrastructure is falling apart. I want you to hear the president yesterday.

The president of Iran yesterday cut 26. You all bore witness that this past June, my country was subjected to a savage aggression in flagrant contravention of the most elementary principles of international law. The aerial assaults of the Zionist regime and the United States of America against Iran's cities, homes, and infrastructures, precisely at a time when we were treading the path of diplomatic negotiations, constituted a grave betrayal of diplomacy and a subversion of efforts towards the establishment. of stability and peace.

So grave portrayal of diplomacy and subversion, because they had a six round schedule, but they weren't doing anything and they were denying their nuclear program.

Well, the language of diplomacy as far as the Iran regime is concerned It's translated into terrorism. Um the terrorism is the cornerstone of their foreign policy. And they have been doing it consistently for years. They went after the Iranian dissidents outside of the country in the Yeah, here the uh in 2018 uh two agents um of the Iran regime were arrested by the uh FBI and you know they were targeting uh Iranian opposition leaders, I was part of it, and also their You know, they were the number one killer of American forces in Iraq, sending those EFPs across the border. Which are IEDs on steroids?

Exactly. And you name it. There is a reason that the regime is the world's leading state sponsor of terrorism, designated as such for nearly four decades. And now they talk about diplomacy. I mean, what does diplomacy mean when they threaten and they kill people?

They take people hostage. Their diplomacy is actually hostage diplomacy. They take foreign nationals hostage. In exchange for getting money or the terrorists that were caught on behalf of Tehran. That's what they've been doing in the past few years.

That's why I think. an end should be put to all of those things. Look at Iran through the prism of the Iranian people, the organized resistance. They are the true representatives of the people, the true voice of the nation. They are the real counterparts of the outside world.

And that was on display during this two day rally across from the UN. Here's more from their president in Cut 25. I hereby declare once more before this assembly that Iran has never sought and will never seek to build a nuclear bomb. We do not seek nuclear weapons. This is our belief based on the edict issued by the supreme leader and by religious authorities.

Therefore we never sought weapons of mass destruction, nor will we ever seek them. Whereas those who disturb the peace and stability in the region Our lies in Israel, but Iran is the one that is being punished for those actions. There is a poem that roughly says something to the effect that someone in one side of the world does something to disturb the peace and someone else is punished for those actions. Ladies and gentlemen, the Islamic Republic of Iran welcomes peace and stability. Yeah.

So they never, ever wanted to pursue a nuclear weapon and it's Israel that doesn't want peace.

Well, it's very interesting that since 2002, when we first revealed the nuclear site in Natanz, which, by the way, they had never declared it, we exposed it. And that got the IA inspections going. And then we exposed the underground facility in Fardo under the mountains where they were building centrifuges. And until since you guys were the ones who found it, the MEK found it. Exactly.

We found it. We, we, and consistently, you know, there had been 130-plus cases of. Exposures of their nuclear program, their sites, their projects. And yet, every time the regime came back and said, oh, this is nothing, this is all lies. The IEA have found a lot of traces of highly enriched uranium on the ground.

They're just explaining it away. They kicked IAEA out of the country. There's no explanation that is plausible, according to the IAA, for a number of tests that they have.

So you don't know how much damage that we did. Do you? Do you know? No one knows, but obviously, I mean The uh it's it's it's always uh impossible to get back to where they were. I think the regime used a very special historical circumstances in the past two decades.

To develop the nuclear weapons to go that far, taking advantage of the policy of appeasement. And, but that situation is now over, it's not going to repeat itself so. I think but does that mean that they have uh given up their nuclear weapons program? Absolutely not. This is a tool for their survival.

So I think this is a a time for everybody. What do you recommend to push them over the edge, you know, without violating international law? What would push them over the edge? We'll look at Maduro's regime's on life support, the Iranian regime's on life support. What would get them out once and for all, the Ayatollah?

Because you said he came out and said something significant. Yeah, he basically rejected. He rejected the United States having a dialogue with the U.S. He said, we're not going to back down from sixty percent enrichment of uranium. We're not going to back down on any of our policies.

I think this is an opportunity for the international community, particularly the Trump administration, to look at Iran Through the prism of the people of Iran. There is an alternative. There is an organized force who doesn't require boots on the ground, foreign boots on the ground, or appropriation of money or arms, none of that. That policy that before would just try to work with the regime has to change. That policy should need to shift to shift to recognizing the right of the people in Iran to overthrow the mullahs, the right of those resistance units to confront the revolutionary guards.

That's where the change will come. It's imminent. You have the Iranian people on your side. You have the momentum shifting in this direction. That's the only path that hasn't been tried, by the way, Brian, and this is the time to do it.

I would love to try it. Ali Raza Jafarzada, thanks so much for coming in. Continues to be safe as Deputy Director of the National Council of Resistance of Iran. Hopefully, we'll talk to you from Tehran one of these days. That will be soon.

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A radio show like no other. It's Brian Killmead. The president's kind of funny. He loves the game of golf. He loves supporting.

supporting golfers and I get a call or a text from him sometimes after wins. He just loves the game of golf and he's one of those guys when you're around him, he does such a good job of almost like feeding confidence into everybody around him. That was one of the things I noticed a lot. With the little bit of time I spent him, he treats everybody the same and treats people with the utmost respect, and whether you're The person serving us lunch, or the caddy on the golf course, or the guy who's the president of the club that we're at. He treats everybody like they're the greatest person in the world.

And I don't think he has any plans to address us as a team, but I'm sure if things go well, we'll hear from him. Are you able to give us any insight into what he says when he calls you? Great job. Scotty Scheffler wins a lot, and he must be getting great job calls and great text calls a lot from the President of the United States, who loves golf and loves athletes, really appreciates it because everything that goes into it: the grit, performing under pressure, the training that goes into it, the discipline that's required.

So, Scotty Scheffler, that's something that would happen four years ago. They're like, oh, don't bring our President Trump. Remember, the PGA took their tournaments out of his golf courses and took their majors out of Scotland. I thought that was just terrible at the time, and I still think it was. But it looks like golf is forgiven as he also has a relationship with Live.

And now it is the Ryder Cup, which is not individuals, not a tournament. It is U.S. against the Europeans. And which is interesting, is most of them don't play in the European League, you know, the European tour. They all play here.

A lot of them live here, but it's still where you're born against all of Europe. Against just us. And I believe they won the last one. It is out in Bethpage, Long Island, where I live, Bethpage Black, which has been the home of U.S. Opens in the past.

And what is interesting is yesterday, all the New York officials showed up. And you guys don't know it yet. Most of you think New York City is New York, but there's upstate New York, which is like Iowa and Long Island, which is diverse as it gets. It's not just the Hamptons, it's Queens. And one thing is pretty clear: this governor hates Long Island.

No, he doesn't get any votes from there. They're trying to take all the American Indian names off the schools. They've been telling you about that. And they're also trying to jam in government housing into neighborhoods. Because it's not diverse enough for them.

So here she is getting introduced at the Ryder Cup on Long Island. Keep it going for New York. Your friend and mine in attendance, Governor Kathy Hochl. Governor, thank you so much for being here. And thank you to your team too for getting us ready for the Ryder Cup in New York.

I would like to say a few thank yous. to Governor of State New York, Cathy Hochle. As we prepare to tee it up on Friday, I want to thank the people who made this journey possible. To Governor Hokkel, To the teams of New York. to the teams of the New York State Parks.

And that's gotta wave make Elise Stefanik feel good. And we got to keep that when you get her back on. Because you listen, what happens is Lise Eldon, everyone said, oh, and there's no impossible outside George Pataki. That's an anomaly in New York. Everyone left.

It's Republican.

So they'll never have a Republican win. And then Lee Zeldon got within five points of Kathy Hochul, who's an accidental governor since Cuomo couldn't keep his hands off every woman he saw.

So he got thrown out of office.

So he becomes and wins barely over Zeldon.

Now, Elise Stefanik, very popular in upstate New York, and now a national figure who was supposed to be UN ambassador, but they needed her seat.

So she had to go back and win it, and she stayed there. And now she says, I'm going to try to be governor. Remember, she tore up Columbia University's presidents and Harvard's presidents and enlightened everyone to the anti-Semitism raging on campuses. And she is such a fighter. She's going to tear Kathy Hochle up.

By the time they get to the actual debate, if it is not a flat-footed tie, I'd be shocked. Right now, she's trailing by double digits, but she'll close that quickly. And that'll be not happening this year, but the year after. Especially after this mayor screws up New York City if he does, in fact, win. And then you know that Kathy Hokul endorsed this communist, Marxist, at the very least, socialist.

So we'll keep you up to date on what's happening there, along with the Virginia race. President of the United States is still meeting with the President of Turkey, and when he does what he does best. He comes out with Turkish president there and says, I want him to stop buying Russian oil and gas right in front of him.

So I love it. I'm not sure he will because he considers himself friends with Vladimir Putin. One of the quotes with. I believe it's with Brett Baer, we hit it off immediately when we met. Isn't that nice?

I want you to listen to Bring to something else that kills me. And I love that Jason Kelsey brought it up.

So you know he is the Eagles offensive lineman who's now retired. Brother Travis, you know all this stuff. You've got a great podcast. He's on the New Heights podcast, and he brought up something that really bothers me, and that's Roger Goodell and the new in the league, in trying to stay up with, I guess, the dearth of numbers and people have preferences coming out of college, has allowed anyone to get any number, regardless of the position. And it's confusing.

When you see a team you don't know before, you watch, is that a defensive lineman? Is that a great play? Is that a linebacker? Is that a stand-up? You know, you don't even know anymore.

So listen to Jason Kelsey talk about this Cup 43. I just don't like the whole numbers. I really liked that you could tell, just as like a fan, I really liked by like even watching a jersey, looking at a jersey. I want a quarterback to wear 99. See, I don't want that.

I liked looking at a jersey and knowing without even knowing the guy. What position that guy played? There was something about the numbers signifying what position you played in that I just liked. I don't know. I just was a fan of it.

I don't like that now the numbers mean nothing on defense. Anybody can wear whatever the f they want. And then on offense, you still have ineligible numbers. Uh it's true. I liked it the old way, and it just made it easier as part of the game.

And it's part of when you teach in the game, you have people checking out the game. You look at the wide receiver and you go, Wh what is that? Is that an outside back? You know, is that a running back? Is that a is that a slot receiver?

I don't I don't know.

So, I wish you would go back. I hope they could. And lastly, though, I want to go back to the earlier soundbite. Do you see what Scotty Scheffler said? He said, he treats everyone great.

But he talks about the waiter that parking his car, the guy who cleans the golf carts and the clubs. He treats everybody great.

Now, he's never going to run for election again. Understand that. That one quality, people want to point out negative qualities to the president all the time, and some people won't give him any credit. But one of the people they always say is: how do you treat people you need nothing from? And he grades off the charts.

And that's why when we went to Atlantic City, And we were out there, and that's going to clubs and buildings he used to own. A lot of people are still there, and they talk about how well the 40-year-old mogul. Future president treated them and their family. and how they knew all of their kids he knew all the kids names. Don't forget, I want to see everybody in Virginia 48 hours, 7 o'clock in Richmond, Virginia, BrianKilmead.com, to get tickets so you can watch on the stream on Fox Nation Saturday Night History of Liberty Labs.

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