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This show proudly sponsored by Real American Freestyle Wrestling. From high atop Fox News headquarters in New York City, always seeking solutions, never sowing division. It's Brian Kelly. Hi, boy. We've had a busy week, a kind of a short week, but an important one, and we are back in action in Washington big time.

We'll talk to Congressman Marlon Stutzman about the renaming and rebranding of the big, beautiful bill and trying to get that passed, as well as the new branding and new name for the Pentagon. He's on the Budget and Financial Services Committee. We'll discuss that. Senator Roger Marshall is standing by. He's on Budget and Health and Education Committees.

But most importantly, I want to get his take on the anarchy at the RFK hearing yesterday.

So let's get to the big three. Number three.

Well, I think he likely has had good dialogue with Putin. Putin talks peace in those conversations, but he doesn't follow through on it. He makes promises, but he doesn't keep them. Yep, that is true, General Jack Keane. Bring on the pain for Vladimir Putin, Mr.

President. Trump's still waiting on Putin as Europe outlines what security guarantees Ukraine would need from America. To me, Putin's showing us he's not ready for peace.

So bring in the sanctions, the isolation, unfreeze his funds and hand them to Zelensky. Number two. Are you urging or encouraging any candidates in the New York City mayor's race to drop out to clear the field? No, I don't like to see a communist become mayor. I will tell you that.

And I don't think you can win unless you have one on one. That is true. And President United States cares about New York, although it's good for the Republican Party to have a Democrat fully reveal that they're Marxist and socialists. New York mayor's race getting Trump's attention. The White House makes moves to confront the radical Zoran Mamdani before the mayor Mamdani gets a chance to debate, whether it's Cuomo, whether it's Sliwa, whether it's Adams.

We bring you the backroom dealmaking. Number one. You're so wrong on your facts. You're interrupting me. And, sir, you're a charlatan.

Because you are citing data that you won't produce to the public. And you are sitting as secretary of health and human services. How can you be that ignorant? Yeah, those are people just ranting and raving. Please tell me what was accomplished yesterday.

Nothing short of a brawl in business suits as RFK takes and dishes attacks from both sides of the aisle on vaccines, personal health mandates and more. It had to be heard to be believed. And here's a little of it. Here is a little of the exchange. And then we'll bring in Senator Marshall yesterday, for example, with Ron Wyden.

Cut five. This is about kids being pushed in harm's way by reckless and repeated decisions to get scientists and doctors out of the way and allow conspiracy theories to dictate this country's health policy. I don't see any evidence that you have any regrets about anything you've done or plans to change it. And my last comment is, I hope that you will tell the American people how many preventable child deaths are an acceptable sacrifice for enacting an agenda that I think is fundamentally cruel and defies common sense. Thank you, Mr.

Chairman. Do I get a reply? or senator you've sat in that chair for how long 20 25 years while the chronic disease in our children went up to 76 percent and you said nothing you never asked the question why it's happening why is this happening today for the first time in 20 years we learned that infant mortality has increased in our country it's not because i came in here and that is just a little of the personal attacks every way to Sunday. Senator Roger Marshall, I'm sure you saw some of it. Your thoughts?

Brian, good morning. I was there for all of it. You know, I think that, first of all, when you turn the lights on, it turns that place into a theater, and it's too sad. You're spot on. We did not accomplish anything yesterday.

It was obvious to me the Democrats, the last person they talked to going in that room was their comms director, not their legislative director. It actually talked about policy. Many of us think that giving children 76 jabs by the time they're old enough to vote is throwing children in harm's way, that there's really no good reason to give a baby on day number one a hepatitis vaccine when you've got a negative test on mom and they're in a stable monogamous relationship. They're not an IP drug. Of course, you know, I'm an OB delivered a baby every day for 25 years.

And there's just so many ridiculousness of the vaccine schedule. I miss more of a measured person. I think that when Secretary Kennedy talks about transparency, what we're trying to do is empower parents and the doctors with good information so that you can make the best decision for your child. The Democrats always have this authoritative big brother thing that they think that this, look, if there's any vaccine out there, you should take it, put on seven masks, let's say six foot apart from each other. They've got a prescription for everything.

saying, I'm the doctor that wants to inform you and have this discussion with you, and then we make the decision together.

So we know the Harvard poll comes out, and overall, 79% of Americans think vaccines work, 90% of Democrats, 68% of Republicans. You're a doctor. What if, for your kids, what vaccines do you make sure they have? No, absolutely, the MMR. You start that at one year of age.

The benefits way outweigh the risk. Polio vaccination, I'm a huge fan of. I've raised money for it as well. The DPT, the diphtheria, pertussis and tetanus vaccine, I think, are all great as well. I'm sure there's more.

You know, what I'm concerned about is the interaction amongst them, that when you give all these, especially a one day old baby, what's it doing to the development of the babies and the child's immune system? Is this why everybody has a peanut allergy or autoimmune diseases or spiky autism? autism, all these. I mean, I'm not, I don't can't prove any of that. All I know is something is wrong.

Let's be a little bit more measured when we choose which vaccines we're going to give it. There's a time to get the hepatitis vaccine and some babies do need it on day number one, but my grandchildren did not need hepatitis B vaccine on day number one.

So I heard Senator Cassidy's questions. They were all good, but he did not wait for any answers. What is the approach, Senator, of having – this guy's already got confirmed, so don't tell me you just want to make a speech. What's the sense of not leaving him time to talk? It is tough when you have five minutes, and I understand, too, I cut him off once myself because I wanted to get into the next question.

I don't have a good answer except I go back to this. It's a comms moment. It's a made-for-TV moment, and everyone's trying to get their second on your show or on your morning show, right? Here is Senator Marty McCary and just about the approach of this version of HHS, Cut 14. We've had a myopic approach to health where we only talk about drugs and surgery.

And I can tell you from my career as a physician at Johns Hopkins for 22 years, it's a system that's just a treadmill where you are just incentivized to bill and code and treat and operate. And so we've had this giant blind spot that no one has talked about until Secretary Kennedy. And that is to talk about school lunch programs, not just putting every six year old on Ozempic, to talk about food as medicine and the microbiome and gut health. to talk about chemicals that cause cancer, not just the chemo to treat it.

So we have an exciting agenda now where the NIH is studying root causes.

Well, they're excited. I'm excited. The Maha movement's excited. But it doesn't seem like anyone in Congress is excited. I saw another Republican, Senator Wasserman, had big questions.

So what level of excitement do you have? And what about how do you feel about the need to address some of these fundamental things? Hallelujah for Dr. McCary. He is absolutely spot on.

I've spent hours and hours working with Marty, who I've known for several years, and Secretary Kennedy working on what Maha legislation looks to put air beneath their wings. And, you know, it starts with food as medicine. We're trying to get whole milk back in school. We're working with our farmers to make more healthy food, to use less pesticides, less fertilizers, more nutrient-rich food. That's what we should have been talking about yesterday, Brian.

And say, everyone, you just mentioned the word COVID, COVID vaccine, and everybody loses their mind. They go to their political corner, and then we're going to fight it about this stupid virus one more time. It is so frustrating. I want to talk about this chronic disease epidemic. 76 percent, as Secretary Kennedy said, 76 percent of Americans have a chronic disease.

20 percent of our children are on some type of a prescription drug right now. We have an epidemic of mental health illness in our youth and young adults as well. Why? Because of social media. There's legislation out there to make things better.

We've got that package together, and that'll be my goal for the rest of this semester in Congress. Yeah, so I want to bring it to Ukraine, if I can. The president yesterday said he's going to talk to Vladimir Putin again. He hasn't run out of patience. I think it's done.

If you watched him with the Chinese leader and the North Korean leader, he has no interest in peace. Here's Emmanuel Macron, says he's finalizing American support in the phone call yesterday, cut 26. The conclusion of this call is simple. In the following days, we will finalize the American support to these security guarantees.

So they want to talk about security guarantees. I think it's time to uparm Ukraine because it's the only thing Vladimir Putin understands. What are your thoughts? You're absolutely right. The only thing that Putin understands is power, is strength himself.

And really, I don't think he does anything differently until he sees Europe stepping it up. I think they're the ones that need to step it up right now, that they need to stop buying gasoline and LNG from Putin. They're still buying LNG. They're buying almost half of Putin's LNG that he's exporting. I want the United States to keep doing our part, but really my focus is on Europe.

I'm all in on these sanctions, doubling down on them. I've been calling for that since the day that they invaded. I don't know why we're dragging our feet, but it's done talking with him right now. He's only going to respond to strength, to power. That's all that he understands.

This guy is a cold-blooded killer. Common sense is not going to work with him. We're fighting the world, literally having a war on drugs before it gets to our borders. You saw that boat that got blown out of the water off the coast of Venezuela. They actually had a jet buzz one of our ships yesterday.

That better not happen again.

So your thought about and how you've been briefed about what the plan is using the Department of Defense to rein in these cartels. Look, this is a war, Brian. And we're losing a Kansan every day to fentanyl poisoning. We're losing one or 200 Americans every day to fentanyl poisoning. This is the most immediate threat to our nation.

And we've secured the border.

So now what's happening is the drug lords are bringing more in through the boats through Southern California, the West Coast, and then on the East Coast as well. This is a war. All's fair in love and war.

So that's all I can say is I'm tired of seeing our young kids die being poisoned. You know, they think they're taking an Adderall or a Xanax tablet. It's laced with this fentanyl and other drugs, which are 100 times more potent than that as well.

So this is war. Whatever it takes to stop the fentanyl poisoning going on in this country, I'm all for it.

Well, we watch. The other thing the president's moving on is crime in D.C. Give me an idea of the D.C. you came back to after a month off. You know, that's amazing, Brian.

My wife and I got back after being gone for a month, and we took a walk. We lived by the Capitol, and, you know, there was kids playing volleyball. in the courtyard beside the Russell Hart building. There was just a whole different atmosphere. You could walk down to Union Station now and listen to music rather than being panhandled and fearing for your life with all the comes along with the homelessness as well.

It is just day and night. You go to the restaurants even now and you can see that the waiters and waitresses have a hop in their step.

So it is absolutely the crime rate has literally been cut in half. We were having a murder every other day this year in Washington, D.C. until President Trump said enough.

So we've cut the crime in half. We're not finished. We've got more work to do.

So what about Chicago? Would you be in support of putting National Guard, more FBI, more ICE agents into Chicago, even though the governor's and mayor's against it? Look, certainly the FBI and all that stuff, I don't have to even think twice about it. If that's where the low-hanging fruit is, that's where they need to go and do their job, then super. I don't understand why the Chicago mayor and governor wouldn't say, we need your help.

We're open arms come. Much like Mayor Bowser in D.C. did that. She, of course, pushed against it. She had to show her base.

But now she's secretly happy that we've come in there and helped. Same way with the Democrats, senators are all pushing back against this, but none of them will go walk by themselves unless they have their own detail. Right.

So I think we need to tread lightly on the National Guard and keep. I'd have to really think twice about whether I want the National Guard there without their permission. But but if there's a place that needs to be done, it'll be Chicago. As you know, in the DNC, you didn't go, but it was in D.C. It's in Chicago, the DNC.

And he asked the National Guard. They had to work. He called them up, did Governor Pritzker.

So if they're so ineffective in cities, why did you need him so bad? Why does Governor Kathy Hochul put subway put the National Guard in her subways? I thought they're not meant for that. Why are we looking at guys with guns and camouflage in the subways? They didn't mind.

But now it's a problem. David Axelrod kind of agrees with you. Cut 41. I would be careful about playing 28 politics on this issue because the right answer is we'll take all the help we can get as long as it's appropriate help, as long as it's stuff that will really help. I mean, these National Guardsmen aren't even trained to do that work.

They're not authorized to do that work.

So, you know, send us the resources that we need. We want to work with you. If there are people doing violent crimes here who are illegal immigrants, we want them out of our city. We'll work with you on that.

So he's saying that Pritzker, by coming out, saying I don't need any help while being the murder capital of the country, not great. Yeah, so Americans, I think the number one issue to Americans, you wake up in the morning, Brian, is my family safe? Are my kids, are my grandkids safe? Is my staff safe? That's the number one thing.

What the person, I think you said Mr. Axelrod, he doesn't understand what the National Guard can do. They can provide support, intelligence. They crowd control. We sent some of our military to the southern border.

We went down and visited them, troops from Fort Riley, Kansas. They were doing intelligence. They had helicopters. They were moving troops around. There's a whole lot of support things they can do, but leave the arresting to the local police, the FBI, those types of people, the federal officers.

so they can be a huge force multiplier. These people are good. I hear you. Senator Roger Marshall, thanks so much. Appreciate it.

Have a great day. You got 1-866-408-7669. When we come back, we'll take your calls. Then we have Marlon Stutzman at the bottom of the hour. Don't move.

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if National Guard or other military troops are sent to deploy to the city of Chicago, immediately go to court.

So that's going to be our first line of defense, is getting a court to issue a TRO or other injunction against that activity.

So that is the governor of Illinois. He wants to go to court and make sure no security forces go into a crime-riddled city of Chicago.

So that is one of the dumbest stances, but he thinks he's getting famous from this. He's a Democrat standing up to Trump. But for what reason? Because you don't like Trump's foreign policy? Because you don't like the big, beautiful bill?

Those are traditional things where you can take on the president. But no, he does not want to provide additional free security for a city known for its crime in Chicago because you think it's going down without him.

Well, look at all the dead. Look at all the shootings. Every day that goes by, the word is going to be, well, if you just were welcoming to Donald Trump security forces that helped D.C.

so much, maybe you wouldn't have this problem. Maybe that kid would be alive. Maybe that woman wouldn't be dead.

So that's what he's got to deal with. That's why I played David Axelrod's comments earlier, because David Axelrod is a political analyst, Democrat from Chicago. And he said, don't be so quick to turn down help because you look like you're on the side of the criminal. And why would you want to do that? Why does that work on your behalf?

But that's what he's been doing, double and tripling down. The mayor. When the mayor, just a terrible mayor, total bad pick, is against the cops, really was to fund the police. He was screaming to fund the police. And now he's got 22% approval rating.

That's how bad he's been. And they choose to take on Trump.

Now, yesterday I thought, I looked at Trump as thought, I'm just going to go to Louisiana where the governor welcomes me. But now they're already eyeing a base, a base where they would put National Guard troops to stage out of. They got Pentagon's permission to use it.

So they might be going in. I just worry about the court case that said it was unconstitutional for him to put National Guard and Marines into Los Angeles. You don't want the court stopping him before he can get started in Chicago. That would look like a win for the governor.

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The more you listen, the more you'll know. It's Brian Kilmeade. We have to continue to spend more responsibly. This week we'll bring up the energy and water appropriations bill to the floor and Chairman Cole is diligently working to get all 12 of the appropriations bills out of his committee. As we always are, the House Republicans are committed to keeping the government open.

And and unfortunately, it seems like not not all the Democrats agree with that. And they're beginning to apply their government shutdown pressure. And that's like we were looking at shortly another shutdown and what Democrats are going to do. Last time when Senator Schumer said, look, we're staring at a shutdown. We're going to get blamed.

Let's just do a CR and cut a deal. He got ridiculed, almost lost his job.

So what do you expect this time? Congressman Marlon Stutzman joins us now. He's on Budget Financial Services Committee. Congressman, what do you think as we get close to this deadline? Are we talking about a CR?

Are we talking about a compromise? Hey, great to be with you, Brian, this morning. You know, the Democrats are really in a box. They've put themselves in this box themselves. You know, Republicans, we continue to work together, stick together, passing President Trump's agenda.

We got the big, beautiful bill, working family tax cut passed over the last six months. I mean we kept the government open. I think what we're going to be doing, and as a conservative, as a fiscal hawk, if we do another CR, we're basically freezing spending. I know. Because I don't think that the Democrats, they never have.

And there's even some Republicans that want to see increases in spending in Washington, which that's not happening necessarily in family budgets across the country or small businesses. They're – things are stabilizing. Things are getting better. We've got the tax policies in place. Tariffs are working for the American people.

We've got to get some interest rate reductions. But this economy is really ready to take off. But I think when it comes to the federal budget, we're $37 trillion in debt. We can't afford to spend more money. We need to be cutting spending.

So if it's a CR, I'm for it. I know that there's a lot of work done in the appropriations. But if the Democrats want to shut the government down, that's going to be up to them.

Well, how do you feel about the jobs numbers? You have to be disappointed. You expected $75,000. You got $22,000. Yeah, well, and I think there's still some hesitancy out there.

As I mentioned, talking to a lot of business owners and employers, these interest rates are really holding some people back in the sense of growth because I think everybody knows that it's probably coming sooner, hopefully sooner than later. But to go make a commitment on an expansion and take a higher interest rate at the bank or taking money from investors, just like, hey, give us a couple more months and then we might be ready for it.

So I'd say that was the number one issue I heard about over the August break back home was interest rates and how it relates to business, but also especially when it comes to housing. I mean, there's just no – there's not a lot of activity when it comes to the housing market, and there's a lot of demand out there. Yeah, you've got to build – what kind of program could you get on board with? Because the Treasury Secretary came out and said, I'm talking with the president about declaring a housing emergency. We just got to see what that looks like because, you know, it's a free market.

You know, we don't want to do Kamala Harris. I'm just going to build homes and put people in it. Right.

So what are your thoughts? What's the free market way to attack how it's stuck besides lowering interest rate? We don't have enough houses. No, you're right. And it really comes back down to the cost of building.

You know, we've seen the cost drop off a little bit. Inflation, of course, drove a lot of those prices up. But it's a lot of red tape. In fact, I've got a bill that we just dropped this past week to streamline some of the standards that HUD and USDA have that don't make any sense. I mean, again, this is always a mission creep that continues to happen in Washington where you have one agency saying this is how we need to regulate industries, and then you have another agency saying the same thing.

And you just put developers and builders and homebuyers into this difficult situation where it's like it's not worth going through all the paperwork because as soon as you think you got a plan ready, then you have another agency saying, no, you got to do it this way. And it just delays the entire project.

So you've got to cut the red tape. You know, interest rates come down. I think that's the biggest factor because people want to know that their monthly payment is going to be, you know, maybe it's $1,000 rather than being $1,500.

Well, you know, you've got that enterprise zone concept where you encourage people to build in economically challenging areas and kind of work under Tim Scott. Could you do that generally? Could you provide incentives for builders to expand, to build complexes? And condos?

Well, I mean, I think the bigger piece, you know, used to be that the average home buyer was 28 years old for first time. Yeah. That's now moved up to 38 years of age. And I think that just goes back to the economics that young people are in right now. They're working hard, but their money doesn't go as far as it used to.

So that's why I think the working family tax cut plan that we passed, the big, beautiful bill, but also a lot of the other policies, shrinking the size of government, energy policy, and making sure that the job market is stable and strong is going to drive wages up. We're seeing wages bumping up a little bit. But if we empower the individual, then they can actually go out and buy a home. And so I think that's what will actually drive the market. Rather than them looking to rent, they'll actually look to buy a home, which that puts them in a much better fiscal situation than just renting for 10 years longer than what they normally would have.

Congressman Marlon Stutzman with us now. And, Congressman, there's going to be a big push to gerrymander in certain battleground states. Indiana is one of them. Are you on board with that? Redistrict?

Yes, redistricting. And the gerrymandering has already happened, California, Illinois. I mean I always tell people look at Indiana maps, look at Illinois maps, and whatever snake sort of dragon head that's creeping through the middle of the state of Illinois in their district maps shows you how they did it after the 2020 election. And I think this is, again, where we all know there was shenanigans going on in the 2020 election. It wasn't just in the presidential race.

It was also how they drew their maps. And in fact, I think our margin would be greater if you would have, you know, equally fair maps across the country that Republicans would have would have more seats. Would you look to get one? Would you look to get some more seats at Indiana? Because I'm going to do it in Missouri.

Yeah, no, I would. I would because it's, you know, and I know, understand the conversation in the state legislature. Like, why do we do this now?

Well, it's because we have to balance out the electorate across the country. It's not just in Indiana now, but because California has given themselves a huge advantage. Illinois has given themselves a huge advantage, and New York as well, that Hoosiers, we're underrepresented because of the way they drew their maps in California. They're also sanctuary states, so they're counting those who are there in California and Illinois who are illegal in the census.

Well, that bumps their population numbers higher. Indiana's not a sanctuary state because we follow the rule of law, and so people aren't clamoring to go to Indiana.

So we're underrepresented in Indiana compared to those states that take advantage of all of those illegal numbers. I want to talk about immigration real quick. You think, okay, the border seal, that's great, but what about some type of legal status, not citizenship, for people that have been here, play a vital role in farming, meatpacking, hospitality? I think the president told us last week that within three months he's going to make an announcement on this. A lot of those MAGA Republicans do not want any of that if you're here.

Doesn't matter. Get out. Your thoughts. No, I mean, I am in northeast Indiana. I come from an ag background, manufacturing background.

And, you know, I understand the argument like, well, if you came here illegally, you need to be deported. But I'm not of that opinion where we should have our government round up every illegal and ship them out. For one, I don't want them to come to my door and ask, you know, who's living at your house? I mean, we don't want them to go to our neighborhoods and be asking the same questions. We had a broken immigration system We didn have a controlled border President Trump came in and he doing that I always felt there no reason to do any immigration reform until the border was controlled and sealed and Trump has done that I think there needs to be not a pathway to citizenship, not amnesty, but a work visa program where a person could be sponsored.

Like if I were an employer saying, you know what? I know this individual. He's worked for us for 10 years. Yeah, he did. He did lose his legal status because he didn't he overstayed a visa or whatever.

However, he got here illegally. He started being woven in. And after 10 years, yeah, he's a loyal employee. You don't want to reward with citizenship. But would you in turn make those farmers give them insurance?

I mean, I would. I would. Yeah. And raise their wages.

Well, here's what often happens is those who here are here illegally. they often work for some a third party and so they don't get all the money that the farmer pays for the labor so we would cut that out and and if you gave them a work visa then they have legal status that they could actually they would get the money directly from the employer rather than working through a third party so there it's complicated but at the same time why should we ship everybody out and then bring in new workers who we don't even know if i'm willing to say i I stand for, you know, I trust the character of this person who's been here for 10 years. And they've got to sign off on it.

So is it true that about 70% of farm workers are here illegally? I don't know exactly. I know there's a lot. Have you heard that? I know there's a lot.

I mean, we're in the poultry business. My family is. And, you know, we've got people that come out on the farm to, you know, pick up chickens in the middle of the night during January. I don't know who, you know, they come from all different areas. You know, they're basically seasonal workers.

So there's it's very transient.

So my guess is that number is going to be fairly high. But we can't find people to do those jobs consistently because there's better jobs that people in our communities do.

So we're going to need help on the agriculture. We're going to need help in construction. Have you talked to the White House, Congressman Stutzman? Oh, I have. Yeah, I have.

How do they feel about it? I mean, they told us that there's going to be something coming quickly.

Well, I think there needs to be because if unemployment rates were 10 percent, then I would say that, OK, somebody is taking jobs away from Americans. But I mean in my area, I see a growing economy, and I just don't see that happening. And I think something needs to be done. But again, the punishment should be you're not going to get citizenship. You can stay and you can work, but if there's any crime, if there's any criminal activity, you're gone.

Like the green cards. Yeah, and I think there's a lot of people that they just simply want to work here to try to accomplish some sort of American dream for themselves. And hopefully their kids and grandkids would have the opportunity.

Well, Congressman, people should realize, too, you know, it's easy for someone to sit in the suburbs where they never even been to a farm, let alone work it, to say that meatpackers and farm workers and hospitality, it's tough luck.

However, most of those people, a lot of those people voted for Trump and the farmers really voted for Trump.

So they this is their reality. It is. And I mean, you know, I know, I mean, you know, dairy farms, meatpacking, all those things that you mentioned. I know how hard it is. We're in the RV industry area as well.

So that's also an industry that takes a lot of blue collar labor, automotive industry.

So there's good jobs out there. I mean, right now, Google, they just put in a data center in Fort Wayne. They're paying six figures for electricians. I mean, it's up to $200,000 a year for an electrician. Those are good-paying jobs.

But then you go back to a meatpacking plant. Who wants to stand in a meatpacking plant all day and packing birds or chicken? That's a tough job, and we need the help. And you know what? One thing I've seen over my period in my career is I've seen people come in the country as a seasonal worker.

They work themselves through the immigration process. They went from a meatpacking plant to a furniture facility, and they keep working themselves up to being more productive and more opportunities as an individual, and it's better for their family.

So America still is the land of opportunity, and that's why we have people here that have just worked their way here, whether it was the right way or not. But I think we can look at a process that rewards work and good behavior, but they just don't get the chance to be citizens. Yeah, I hope Republicans understand that because we never thought I'd get to this spot because I never thought the border would be sealed. But it is sealed. That's the only reason we're having this conversation.

That's right. Congressman, I'm with you 100%. Yeah, thanks so much. I think you're in the practical world. It's easy to sit in theory and say zero, but it's just not the world we're in.

Congressman Rowan Stutzman, thanks so much. You bet. Thanks, Brian. Great to be with you. Back in a moment.

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If you're interested in it, Brian's talking about it. You're with Brian Kilmeade. He's got these magical doctors who claim that he was shot in the ear, but his ear, I guess, grew back. He had a Duplo bandage on one minute, no bandage the next. We can't get a medical record from this alleged assassination.

He was supposedly shot. We have nothing. We've got nothing. You can't even ask. Where are the investigative records?

One day he slapped his maxi pad on his ear. The next day the ear is totally fine. And now that people are speculating that he might have died, we only get that online. But mainstream media, everything's fine. He seems fine to me.

So that was an exchange that was heard, believe it or not, on the air with the totally, I think she is one of the least talented people on television.

Now she got kicked off MSNBC as soon as Trump got elected. I'm not sure if both are related. but you had Joy Reid saying that the president wasn't really shot. He did a magical ear thing, I guess, for sympathy, to help win an election. Is that what they thought?

But you know what happened after he got shot? Kamala Harris came in and Joe Biden dropped out. And everyone even forgot the president was shot. The RNC momentum was squelched. Does everyone focus on this 109-day momentum-building, billion-dollar-earning campaign?

So if you think the president's stage being shot on a wide open stage, they cost the man behind him his life, then you go ahead and do that.

So I just I mean, this woman was ridiculous anyway. saw race in everything, comes off as pretending to be a working class woman. She was a Harvard educated woman, highly credentialed, who came off just like a third rate conspiracy theorist. But that's some of the idiocy that is coming out. I mean, you have Don Lemon out there trying to talk to National Guardsmen.

He's unemployable. But the other thing that happened at the White House, they never stop with things of substance. Number one, it's no longer Secretary of Defense. He's now Secretary of War, Department of War, no longer Department of Defense. Would you think about that?

Doesn't matter. It's happening. AI, that's the 200th executive order that he signed, 200th. And now when it comes to AI, he's got the first lady focusing on education of AI for kids. What do you do?

Where are the guardrails? And then he's got the most powerful people in the world in the tech center. Zuckerberg, we're talking about Sundar Pinchow of Google with a big win yesterday. You have the Oracle CEO. You have the IBM CEO.

They're going to have a series of five to ten meetings. But one took place yesterday. And he said, where are we at? How can you help the Defense Department? I know you're in competition, but how can you work together?

What is the latest? And then you have David Sachs, who is as respected as anyone in Silicon Valley. You know, he co-founded PayPal, self-made multibillionaire, saved Tesla because one of the founders of PayPal kicked out was this guy named Elon Musk.

So David Sachs had this big podcast, interviewed the president.

Now he's the AI. Crypto czar.

So it's very hard to keep up with Trump on everything that he's looking to do. Also, he was asking the Supreme Court to do something pretty important. He's asking the Supreme Court to quickly entertain and verify that as president of the United States, he has the right to put tariffs on countries, or else we might be giving back up to $500 billion worth of revenue in undue trade agreements that were hatched out over hours laboriously while we're getting closer to India and Canada and things of that nature.

Now they're saying, when courts say, well, no, you're not allowed to do it.

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They wanted 75,000 jobs, so that was rejected. Unemployment still a very low, 4.3%. But what does it mean about the job market? That's a big story, and the housing market is still stuck, and we'll see how much the interest rate comes down.

So it's going to be a little challenging. This hour is going to be joined by Julian Epstein, where Democrats go from here, and Steve Hilton standing by. He's running for the gubernatorial candidate from the right. But everyone's in, and the top two vote-getters win. This hour, it's going to be big.

We have a lot to discuss. The president's going to sign an executive order, officially renaming the Department of Defense, the Department of War. 200th executive order. Let's get to the big three. Number three.

Well, I think he likely has had good dialogue with Putin. Putin talks peace in those conversations, but he doesn't follow through on it. He makes promises, but he doesn't keep them. Of course. And the president just put out on Truth Social, it looks like we lost India and Russia to the dark China.

Good luck, you three. And that's a very provocative post.

Meanwhile, the president should be saying to himself, I'm running out of patience. Vladimir Putin has done nothing for the peace process, even though President Trump has put himself really on line for this. It's time to arm up Zelensky and let him win. Number two. Are you urging or encouraging any candidates in the New York City mayor's race to drop out to clear the field?

No, I don't like to see a communist become mayor, I will tell you that. And I don't think you can win unless you have one on one. New York's mayor's race getting Trump's attention. The White House makes moves to confront the radical socialist Zoran Mamdame before he becomes the next mayor. We'll bring you the latest.

Number one. You're so wrong on your facts. You're interrupting me. And, sir, you're a charlatan. Because you are citing data that you won't produce to the public.

And you are sitting as Secretary of Health and Human Services? How can you be that ignorant? It's unbelievable. These people, they had no interest in his answers. They just wanted to pontificate.

Nothing short of a brawl in business suits. His RFK takes in dishes, attacks from both sides of the aisle on vaccines, personal health, mandates, and more. Had to be heard to be believed. We'll bring back a lot of it. And with me right now is Steve Hilton.

Steve, I know you're on the campaign trail out in California. I get it. But did you catch any of RFK's push to define how he's revamping HHS? Yeah. I mean, I'll tell you, Brian, the main thing I thought watching that was I don't know how it's going to happen.

I don't know what I have to do to get there. I want to go in front of these absolute jokers, these people who make a total spectacle of themselves. Who do they think they are? These arrogant, pompous, grandstanding senators. I'm honestly sick of it.

Exactly as you say, they weren't interested in finding out anything about what's going on. They were only interested in performing for the cameras and for their partisan audiences. And it's just disgusting. It completely brings the whole of Congress into disrespect and disrepute. and I cannot believe that time after time they get away with it and the people who stand up to them and try and actually hold them accountable and tell them the truth and call out their BS behavior, they're the ones that get gaveled down and shouted down.

It is completely disgusting. I mean, he's got the challenge of his voice. We know that. And here is some of the exchange, cut nine. Eight out of ten of our kids cannot qualify for military service.

is a national security issue. When my uncle was president, we spent zero on chronic disease. Today, we spent $1.3 trillion. It's the biggest cause. It's increasing.

So, you know, he sees what's going on and he sees what's out there and he's got new policies. He walked in there and a lot of people don't want to change.

So he fired him. Exactly. And now they're like, well, explain yourself.

Okay, but they'll keep cutting you off every time you go to talk. You know, the best thing I saw spoken about this as so often was President Trump. Later in the day, he was the AI thing at the White House and he was asked about the hearings. And he and he was just very simple and clear, as he always is. He said, look, this guy's got new ideas, different ideas.

And I like him for that. He's challenging the status quo. That's the whole point of what we all voted for in the election. And exactly as Robert Kennedy pointed out, like, who the hell are you people to lecture me on any of these issues when you've been sitting there for decades presiding over a system that's given us the most unhealthy population of any rich nation in the world? At the same time, we're spending more money on health care than any nation in the world.

It doesn't add up. And they're the ones who should be held accountable for this. He's trying to change it. Yeah, let's talk about what's happening in California. Gavin Newsom is putting hundreds of millions of dollars raising it in order to gerrymander further the state and get rid of the seven plus seats that you guys have representing California in the House of Representatives.

Where is that referendum now? Yeah, you're right to use the word re-gerrymandering. It's already gerrymandered. Here's the situation in California. If we had fair votes and fair representation and fair maps, Republicans would have an additional 12 House seats in California today.

Now, Gavin Newsom, purely for his own political benefit, he's just running for president. This is effectively a taxpayer funded corrupt contribution to his presidential campaign, spending two hundred and fifty million dollars to steal another five house seats by rigging the maps. He's drawn the maps up. He's putting them on a ballot and it's all set to go ahead in November. I filed a lawsuit yesterday to stop this obscene power grab and the basis of our lawsuit, which is different from anything we've seen before from Republicans in California.

You've already seen Republicans at the state level, the state party, state legislators file lawsuits in state court to try and stop this on constitutional procedural grounds. Those lawsuits have already been thrown out. My lawsuit is different. It's in federal court and it's based on the equal protection clause of the U.S. and the California Constitution, which over the years has been defined very clearly by the courts to mean a couple of things.

One person, one vote, and one person's vote should have the same weight as anyone else's vote. You shouldn't have a bias there in the districts. Right now in California, it basically takes roughly 200,000 votes to elect a Democrat to Congress, nearly over 600,000 votes to elect a Republican.

So today, a Democrat vote is worth three times a Republican vote in California. With these rigged maps by Gavin Newsom, it will be eight times as much. It will take around 190,000 votes to elect a Democrat to Congress, 1.52 million votes to elect a Republican. It's a totally grotesque rigging of the elections. And so we filed this lawsuit in federal court where we think we have a stronger chance because we've got to fight this.

We can't let him spend this money, our money, on something that nobody asked for.

Meanwhile, the state's falling apart on every single measure. You talk about the jobs report. One thing to remember, California right now, we have the highest unemployment in the country, in the country, as well as the highest poverty and the highest taxes, highest costs and all the rest of it. All these problems going on. Gavin Newsom not interested.

He's trolling President Trump on social media, trying to rig our elections. I'm standing up to fight him and stop this absolute obscenity from moving forward.

So Rick Caruso, who ran for mayor, lost to Karen Bass, some say a Republican, but knew there was not much Republican foundation.

So he ran as a Democrat. And of course, he was one of the few to keep his community from burning to the ground because he did it with a private fire fire department that he had for his condos and his and his houses. Here's what he said about the state of California, Cup 43. It's painful. I think it's painful for so many of us in L.A.

And so painful for so many of us in the state of California to see the decline that we have because of crime and homelessness. The increased cost of living in Los Angeles, the state of California. The lack of affordable housing that's desperately needed, again, in Los Angeles and throughout the state. And we've got to do better. We can do better.

So your thoughts exactly why you're running, right?

Well, exactly. I mean, look, we should be the engine of the American economy and opportunity America. Right now, U.S. News and World Report ranked the states on opportunity. California, 50th out of 50 states.

I mean, on everything, highest gas prices, highest electricity costs, water, everything is absolutely out of control. It's a direct result of Democrat policies. 15 years now of one party rule. We've got to turn it around. That's why I'm running.

I've been working on this, as you know, Brian, for many years now. I've been working on the plans to give us not the worst business climate in America, which we have now, but the best by getting rid of that bloated nanny state bureaucracy that's been built up over the years where these Democrats were in charge of this corrupt ruling elite. They're not interested in anyone's lives. They're not interested in making life easier for families or small businesses. It's all about their own political pandering to the unions who run the Democrats in California, the far left activists, their climate elitism, which is what's pushing up the cost of housing and everything else.

That's why I'm running. We're going to turn this around. We can't let California just slip further and further into decline. How's the campaign going? It's great.

We've just at the end now of a fantastic series of comedy nights, Brian. How about that? Actual jokes, not yet illegal in America. We've had some great comics on tour with us in Orange County and in L.A. the last few nights.

It's a new way of doing politics. We've had hundreds of people come out. It's been really great. I'm getting great reaction. You know, for too long, I think people have been giving up in California and this idea that the Democrats are going to be in power forever.

It's never going to change. I think it's so exciting to see the energy that's out there. People are sick of this BS. And Gavin Newsom, meanwhile, prancing around doing all this political stuff for his own career while everyone else in California suffers. And so I'm feeling really good about our chances.

It's not going to be easy. I've always said that it's going to be hard, but it's not impossible. We can save California. Who do you know is in?

So right now we've got I mean, the front runners, according to most of the polls and myself and Katie Porter. Remember her? She was the congresswoman from Orange County. It's really a two-horse race at this point. Look, there may be other people.

It's getting a bit late. Kamala Harris, of course, said that she wasn't going to get in. I'm a little bit disappointed about that. I was very much looking forward to debating her. Looks like that's not going to happen.

So I don't know. We've got a real fight here, but a real shot at turning things around. It's going to be a big, big surprise next year for a lot of people, but I think we can pull it off. Thanks so much. Appreciate it.

Steve Hilton, he's California GOP gubernatorial candidate from, of course, he's coming from the right. Can they right the ship in California? We'll find out. Steve, great job. Best of luck.

Great to see you, Brian. Thank you. All right. Listen, we come back. We'll get some phone calls.

We'll talk about that. And do you want some help in your city? This morning I did a hit on KRM&G, and I found out the governor of Oklahoma is calling out his National Guard on his own to clean up Tulsa.

So he's not waiting for the president. He's saying, why don't I just use the National Guard to work with ICE and other people? Because Tulsa does have a crime issue.

So let's go do it. Why doesn't everyone do that? That includes picking up the trash and getting off and getting rid of the graffiti, the little stuff and big stuff. What do you think? BrianKilmead.com.

It's Brian Kilmeade. Radio that makes you think. This is the Brian Kilmeade Show. Are you urging or encouraging any candidates in the New York City mayor's race to drop out to clear the field? No, I don't like to see a communist become mayor, I will tell you that.

And I don't think you can win unless you have one-on-one, because somehow he's gotten a little bit of a lead. I have no idea how that happened. But I'd prefer not to have a communist mayor of New York City. And, you know, that's what he is based on his policy. That's President of the United States being honest about the mayor's race, which is a national story.

Republicans in many ways, the operatives loving it because they're putting Domi and his belief about billionaires not liking free markets, freezing houses, not liking cops, having psychologists go out for domestic disputes. All this stuff that is radioactive for somebody that wants to win an election, this guy's saying. And in that crazy area of New York City, he might win. And it looks like he is going to win.

So what they want to do is make him the Democrat.

So you're running in Indiana in a tough seat. He is the Democrat. You're running over in Texas in a tough seat. He is the Democrat. Joe on Long Island.

Hey, Joe. Brian, good morning, sir. I agree with Trump. I want a one-on-one in this race. I want Curtis against the commie Mandami.

Cuomo needs to drop out. You remember how hard we fought to get that guy out. Cuomo should be in prison for the murders he committed, nursing home murders, and sexual harassment in the workplace he did, and his bail reform. Cuomo, he'll run this shitty right into the ground like he did New York State. I'd rather lose with an honorable Curtis, a real New Yorker, than ever put that sleazebag up.

Alderman should be disgraceful for endorsing him and any, O'Como, and any Republican that does. They lost all MAGA. I can tell you that. Republicans, MAGA's sticking behind Republicans, and Republicans are not sticking behind Curtis Sleewa, the Republican candidate. He's going to be on Sunday, so make sure you watch Sunday at 10 o'clock on One Nation.

Sandra in New Jersey. Hey, Sandra. Hello, Brian. I have some nice news to share on a Friday. Mayor Everett Garnto, he's the mayor of Garfield in northern New Jersey, you know, where it's really blue.

He jumped ship from being a Democrat, and he's going to become a Republican, and of course, endorse Jack Cattarelli and campaign for him. and three other Democrats in the surrounding area, two other mayors, and they're going to also endorse Jack Cattarelli.

So I think, you know, little by little, it's going his way, and I hope he wins. The last poll, I say he's nine points down, and last time they had him down, he almost won. He lost by three, and now you have Murphy just do nothing for the last four years. Price of utility bills are through the roof. Taxes have not gone down.

They've gone up, and you saw Donald Trump do very well in New Jersey. Speaking of New Jersey, that's where Mike is. Hey, Mike. Hello, Brian. What's on your mind, Mike?

I got a question. How does the average citizen create some sort of a petition to limit the terms in Congress? I think you want term limits. I don't see it. Because they've got to give it to themselves.

And many of them don't want to do that. You saw Nadler retire at 78 years old. How many terms? Like 20 terms, this guy. These guys don't want to leave.

And the people that do say, like Senator Osborne from years ago, they say, I'm going to do two terms and I'm done, and that's it. They're finished. They're through. That almost never happens.

So I am not optimistic you're ever going to get term limits. It just doesn't make sense because it's not in the best interest. I'll give you another example. Why is it that you're allowed to invest in stocks and be in Congress? You are privy to foreign policy, domestic policy, financial policy.

You know what things are going to be doing, what Congress is going to be doing. You're going to get worried about interest rates before anybody else. Obviously, this is fundamental insider trading, and they can't get enough votes outside the reputable Senator Josh Hawley to do this.

So Nancy Pelosi can still spend, I don't know, she's over in Lake Cuomo, Italy right now, paying $10,000 a night for a hotel room. As Speaker of the House, she makes $275,000. How do you become rich? Oh, my husband's the investor. Do you ever talk to your husband?

I don't know, every day perhaps? And you might mention when she said, what did you do at work? Oh, did I mention we're putting money into defense, adding $100 billion to the budget? Oh, I think I'm going to find some defense stocks. But it has nothing to do with our conversation, Nancy, just so you know.

So it's frustrating. Even though it's better for the country, for the most part, the politicians are not caring about that. You listen to the Brian Kilmeade Show. We come back inside what Democrats plan on doing and embracing the communists socialists Marxists We running away from them And I going to do that with Julian Epstein Back in a moment Breaking news, unique opinions. Hear it all on The Brian Kilmeade Show.

But we also know that our mission is not complete. I've made the decision to extend the encampment as we continue to work to ensure that everyone that walks through these city streets is safe. They deserve that. You deserve that. Our nation deserves that.

So that's interesting. The National Guard commander says let's extend the stay until November 1st because we've had so much success with the National Guard, the FBI, expanded ICE and Border Patrol going through the nation's capital. It looks better. No more homeless. Crime's almost down to zero.

In terms of murders, there's been one since they started working 30 days ago. And we'll see, because the mayor says, no, I don't necessarily need this. I'd like the funds to continue this, but I don't want the National Guard, so to speak. But she's also a Democrat.

Now, you look at other cities like Philadelphia and Chicago. They're worried that help's going to be on the way. In Louisiana, they say, please send it to New Orleans and Baton Rouge. And I'll tell you, there are Democrats who see, who are operatives and analysts, who see the problem with a lot of these presidential contenders like Newsom and Pritzker just coming out and blankly saying, I'm going to resist Trump on this because there's another side to it. Here is David Axelrod, who's from Chicago on CNN, Cut 41.

I would be careful about playing 28 Politics on this issue because the right answer is we'll take all the help we can get as long as it's appropriate help, as long as it's stuff that will really help. I mean, these National Guardsmen aren't even trained to do that work. They're not authorized to do that work.

So, you know, send us the resources that we need. We want to work with you. If there are people doing violent crimes here who are illegal immigrants, we want them out of our city. We'll work with you on that.

So we'll work with you on this. And by the way, a note for the National Guard. They do have military police in the National Guard. And they played such a vital role for Governor Pritzker and Mayor Johnson that you used them during the DNC to make sure your city was safe. And Governor Hochul, who says we don't need National Guard on our streets, but you used them in the subways, didn't you?

Julian Epstein joins us now. Serves as chief counsel to the House Judiciary Committee and staff director to the House Oversight Committee. Democrats from 26, from 96 to 2001. Julian, what should the message be for Democrats here? Do you like Axelrod's advice to Pritzker?

Well, I think it's better than what Pritzker has been saying. I think it's better what a lot of big city mayors have been saying. The mayor in Washington, where I live, where you have seen a definite improvement since the crime – since the Trump crime surge or since the Trump crime police surge. Crackdown. Yeah, there's been big improvement there.

So I think it's sort of a much better place for the Democrats to be. If I'm the Democrats, I say, hey, look, we want to work with the federal government. We want crime to come down. Right now, what we see as the current crime rates, you have homicide rates in the big cities as much as 25, 30 per 100,000. The average, Brian, in the modern world is two to five per 100,000.

So what Democrats should be saying is, hey, we want to find a way to work with the feds to do a police surge and do a crackdown rather than what is the default position for the Democrats on nearly every issue, which is to be as opposite of Trump as they can possibly be, which is putting them in a very unpopular position. And it's sort of like this is the soft bigotry of low expectations. The crime in big cities is a catastrophe, and the status quo has been acceptable to Democrats. Trump has figured out really an important – not just a political cleave on the Democrats but a policy one to say that, hey, what we really need is a much, much stronger police presence. Yeah, and by the way, some of the people in Chicago, they say they never see cops on the corner.

There's not enough. I think there are about 1,000 down. I saw one MSNBC host say this. Here's my advice to J.B. Pritzker.

He said, I think he should pick up the phone, call the president, say, I know you don't have a constitutional authority to deploy the National Guard here and to police my city. You can do that in D.C. You can do that in Chicago, but let's partner up here. How do we do that?

Now, the middle part, that's still working its way through the courts. And they can't police, but there are things they can do. But we saw with San Francisco that court ruled. But that sense of I will pick my spots to work with the president from another party, to me, makes you a better presidential candidate. Don't you think?

Oh, I mean, I think the Democrats should be doing this across the board. I think they should be doing it on immigration. I think they should be doing it on energy. I think they should be doing it on – across the board on the issues. They should be finding a way of working with the president because the president is occupying the political center right now.

And then if they want to find – if they want to be the oppositional party, they can find ways of distinguishing themselves from the president. For example, on crime, they could say, yes, let's get the feds in here, but we as a state and local guys want to take the lead in calling the shots on sort of what the police strategy is going to be. They could easily be finding a sort of a middle ground here. But the instinct of Democrats right now is to – the instinct is to take a position as far opposite, as directly opposite to the Trump position as possible. That's where the activist base wants to be.

That's where the donors want to be. That's where the far-left progressives want to be. The progressive ideology, Brian, is fundamentally a nihilist ideology that preaches skepticism of all of the major institutions of the West, whether it is law enforcement, whether it is borders, whether it is a colorblind, pluralistic society, whether it's gender. You know, the ideology of the left right now is to be as antagonistic towards Trump and nihilistic towards the traditions of the West, which have made the West great. And that's why the Democrats are in such a bad place politically.

And it is so – crime is such an easy example where the Democrats could be taking the position that they took in the 1990s under Clinton where we had 100,000 cops on the street. It was very, very pro-law enforcement, and they could be finding ways to team. But it's just not the impulse of the Democrats. The impulse of the Democrats is to tear down, tear down the institutions that have made the West great and find every opportunity you can to be as strident and as hysterical and shrill in your opposition towards Trump.

So Wes Moore of Maryland came out last week and said, we don't have a we don't have a communication problem. We have a success problem. A lot of our policies have not been successful. And then Ezra Klein writes this book called Abundance and has his podcast. He says, this is the way.

We have to come up with new ideas within Democrats without just spending money. Have you heard about this when rational people like you and other Democrats get together? And Harold Ford's another example. And to me, Joe Manchin is another example of a successful formula. Have you heard about what Ezra Klein and others are talking about on the left?

Oh, sure. It's the abundance idea. And I think that's where the Democrats need to move to building rather than tearing down. And I like that idea. I just don't think it's big enough to bring the Democrats back to nirvana.

I think it's got to be something much deeper than just building, although I think building is an important part of where the Democrats need to get to. Abundance is basically a Republican idea of deregulation so that you can get things like housing going and you can begin to find industry getting more robust in the states. And I think it's sort of combined with a big welfare state where government is undertaking big initiatives to get things done.

So, I mean, I think it's sort of the half answer. But politics isn't just about – James Carville once said it's the economy stupid. And I think that is one of the biggest myths that's ever been sold. It's not just economic issues. Economic issues are important.

But it's also cultural issues. People want to know if their party, the person they're voting for, relates to them culturally.

So when you get this idea of boys, biological men playing in women's sports, most voters say culturally that's just repulsive to me. When you get the idea of not being tough on crime or having a skepticism of law enforcement, that's repulsive to most people. That's a cultural issue. When you talk about open borders, most people just think that's wrong. You can't have a democracy functioning where you have millions of unscreened migrants coming into the country, not knowing where they assimilate, not knowing where they share our values.

That's just repulsive to a lot of people.

So it's not just economic issues. It's not just building. It's not just the abundance agenda. Democrats are out of step with the voters culturally on many issues. And the crime issue you bring up is just one good example.

And Democrats are seeing a major course correction there, but we don't have the leaders that have the gonads that are willing to stand up to the progressive left and say, you're wrong, you're out of step with voters, and we're going to make a major course correction like Clinton did in 92.

Well, a couple of things. I want to bring you to the mayor's race in New York where Keem Jeffries and Senator Schumer and Dan Goldman and Governor Hochul have all not endorsed the winner of the Democratic primary. And it is Zoran Mondani. And to the point where they are worried because if Mondani is the face of the Democrats, your party, then they then they will not be successful in the midterms.

So John Casamitidis, a power player here in New York, runs one of our great affiliates, WABC, friends, very good friends with Donald Trump, self-made billionaire, said that they are making an effort now to streamline the field and make it Cuomo against Mondami. I got problems with the final two, but listen to what John Casamitidis said, cut 21. I believe that things will happen in the month of September, that something will happen. And I am confident. Don't forget, President Trump saved America.

I mean, they tried to assassinate him twice. They tried to indict him in four different states. I mean, who was pressing the button in the White House?

Somebody in the White House was pressing that button to indict him in four different states. And somebody in the White House was pressing that button on those assassinations. Look at one of the assassinations. They cremated the body within 10 days. I'm a presidential candidate.

John, that's got nothing to do with the mayoral race in New York City.

Something is going to happen in the month of September. What's going to happen?

Something is going to happen. I'm highly confident. He saved America. He saved the free world. You know what I said to him on Sunday?

I said to him, time for you to save New York.

Well, what he did is had Steve Whitcoff talk to Eric Adams about dropping out and giving him an ambassadorship. It doesn't look like Curtis Lee was going anywhere. He's going to be out with me Sunday. but that would leave Cuomo one-on-one with Mandami. In one poll, he beats him.

Would it be good for the Democratic Party for Cuomo to win as bad as he's been? Yeah. Yeah, he's much better than Mandami. I mean, I think Cuomo has a lot of the right instincts in terms of moving the party back to the political center where it was in the 1990s. He's a flawed candidate, obviously.

I think he made major mistakes during COVID. and he's got some baggage, but he's a lot better than Mandami. You know, Mandami, the Democratic Party, has a problem with socialism that goes beyond Mandami and it's coming straight out of the universities, Brian. And it is teaching kids that, teaching students this really unfortunate ideology that it's okay to be resentful of the West, even though the West has liberated literally billions of people and uplifted them economically more so than any system ever. Western ideas have done that.

And what the universities are teaching right now is it's okay to be resentful. It's okay to want to kind of tear down the- I know, hopefully that changes.

Well, hopefully it does, but it's coming out of universities and it's teaching students there's an easy way out, which is rather than building in the 21st century where AI is going to dominate, look for handouts. and it's sort of becoming the cop-out generation. And this is being reinforced by the Democratic Party. And beyond Mandami, Democrats are going to have a problem with this going forward, but for sure Cuomo would be a better candidate. All right.

Julian, thanks so much. Interesting times, and we'll continue to talk about it. I appreciate it. This time of year you can get analysts on like Julian and others as opposed to when it gets real political. People are so concerned, most people, are so concerned about saying anything bad about that party because it could cost them votes.

But now is where you're game planning. It's almost prior to preseason. I'd say if it's the NFL analogy, this is almost prior to the draft where you can really look at your team honestly and decide what doesn't work and what does work. But then when you get close to the season, you want to be all positive. We're not close to the season.

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And don't miss a show. Get the podcast five days a week at FoxNewsPodcasts.com or wherever you download your favorite podcasts. The fastest three hours in radio. You're with Brian Kilmeade. There's a big difference, Senator, between established science and the scientific establishment, which has been co-opted by the pharmaceutical industry.

Hold on, so you're telling me, you're telling the American people that the American Medical Association, representing hundreds of thousands of people, have been co-opted, and that they should not trust their doctors. The American Academy of Pediatrics, the American, and by the way, just for the record, every single Republican, I don't mean to be political here, Mr. Chairman, has received PAC money for the pharmaceutical industry. Are they all corrupt as well? And I'm telling you, the American Heart Association has been co-opted by the flu industry.

Everybody but you, Senator.

So this guy, Bernie Sanders, totally out of control. He hates big pharma. The RFK really against big pharma and what they give to different campaigns. They have that in common, but not this time.

So listen, I'm not saying that we should have zero vaccines. I mean, you saw some, we just had Senator Hagerty on, who's with doctor and said, yeah, I got to get some basic vaccines. But do we need 50, 50 vaccines?

So what RFK is doing is saying, and I think he could have been communicating better. He cut 1,000 people. I don't know where he cut those people from. And he could communicate that a little bit better. Obviously, it's embarrassing when you see DC director who you praised.

Ten days later, you fire. And now she refuses to leave and suing to stay.

So there's a lot to talk about. But I would think it's going to be a conversation. I should know better. But it was a bunch of speeches.

So I think that people are disappointed. When, you know, Dr. Marty McCary, who left private practice, he was very vital for me and for us, for our audience during the pandemic. When he was asked by Trump to join, he said, absolutely, I'll join. Hit it off with Dr.

Oz and RFK. He doesn't need the money. He doesn't really want to pick up his life and go to Washington, but he did. Here he is with Hannity last night, cut 15. And if you look at where the CDC lost its way, It was in the Biden administration when, for the first time, it became highly political.

The ACIP committee fired Harvard's Dr. Martin Kaldorf, one of the most respected vaccine epidemiologists, simply for asking the question whether or not young, healthy kids really needed the COVID vaccine. They got rid of them. The CDC and the Biden administration violated the sacred physician-patient relationship. They abused the physician respect and authority that we have.

It's one of the greatest abuses of trust in the modern medical profession. What they did is they ushered in the teacher's union to write their school closure policy. The edits offered by the teacher's union in the document appeared in the final document, and they called this science. It was science as political propaganda. And he said, that's where we're at.

And that should have been one of the questions. When he came in, he said, I'm not going to look at anything that they produced in terms of studies because the studies weren't done with a placebo. And they wanted to make sure the pharmaceutical companies weren't doing these reports. And that's why when he was asked repeatedly about the stats after COVID-19, he goes, I don't know. I don't know how many people die because of COVID-19.

I know what they say. I don't really believe it. And why don't we have the stats on my myoconditis, have the swelling of the heart? Why don't we have that and related? Or you want to just say generally since the pandemic started, how many people have it and how many people took the vaccine and work our way backwards?

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It's Brian Kilmeade. Hi, everyone.

So glad you're there. It's going to be a big hour coming your way. Trey Gowdy joins us at the bottom of the hour. We're going to find out about the chances of the Supreme Court hearing quickly. The president's appeal on tariffs to reinstate them and make sure that they're declared constitutionally valid valid because a lot of people believe the president did not, or some believe, and certainly the appeals court believes, the president doesn't have the ability to issue tariffs in place unless it's an emergency.

It usually comes from Congress. They have a strong argument against it. Will the Supreme Court see it? It would certainly settle markets and allow other deals to be cut. We'll talk to Trey Gowdy about that.

Also, the illegality. Democrats are not happy that the president's tape took out that boat right off the coast in the Caribbean, right off the coast of Venezuela. They weren't upset when Al-Aluwaki was killed, an American citizen in Africa, but they seem upset about this. What about the legality of that? We'll talk to Trey Gowdy.

Meanwhile, joining us now is James Blair, White House Deputy Chief of Staff. James, welcome. Hey, Brian, how are you? Great to be back. I know how busy you are, so thanks so much for your time.

First off, on the jobs numbers, I know the president says his programs are really going to kick in six months from now, a year from now. But 22,000 jobs, you wanted 75,000. How do you feel about it?

Well, look, I mean, I think what it underscores is we don't necessarily know what's going on with the Bureau of Labor Statistics. Obviously, you want strong job numbers, but, you know, there were some hubbub blasts about months when we wanted to make a change there.

So first and foremost, I want to make sure that we're getting accurate data. I think that's what the economy needs. It's what the market needs. It's why we have a new nominee moving through the confirmation process right now.

So, look, we all want a strong economy. We want jobs numbers, but we also want lower interest rates. I imagine that this data will probably drive that. And, you know, what the truth is, I guess we'll see as revisions begin to happen. But first and foremost, I think that, you know, we've got concerns about the data generally, and that is exactly why we need new leadership over there.

But you're not saying it's false. You're just not comfortable with the data. Yeah, I mean, I just, I mean, how could I know, you know? I've not looked at anything other than the reports they've put out, you know?

So let's move to something else I know that matters. It looks as though the president of the United States is asking the Supreme Court to expedite his decision on his appeal to make sure that tariffs are allowed to – constitutionally valid and allowed to stand up. And the revenue that you've pulled in allows to stay because an appeals court reversed that decision. What are the thoughts of the Supreme Court? When's the earliest you expect them to see it?

My understanding is it would be towards the end of this year, and that's the expedited basis that it would happen on. I mean, we want it as soon as possible. That's what the president has said, because the president wants stability. He wants something that we can count on. Obviously, the administration has a strong view of what the law is and that the tariffs are indeed valid.

But the president does not want disruption. He'd rather have a clear answer, you know, one way or another as soon as possible. But, of course, recognizing that our strong view is they are valid. Here's what's really important when we need to talk about what's at stake here. We are collecting hundreds of billions of dollars, which is going straight to deficit reduction.

Prices have not substantially increased. There's not inflation as a result of that. That has not borne out as true despite the statements and sort of the media coverage that was always saying that was going to be true, right? And importantly, it's not just us saying it. Just a couple of weeks ago, while Congress was in recess for the summer, the Congressional Budget Office put out a revision to their own expectations of what the tariff revenue was going to be.

They think it's going to be at least $4 trillion over the next 10 years. Again, straight to deficit reduction.

So I think that's something that the American people supported. It's not something that is driving consumer prices, and it's something that is really good for our country. And as we know, it's reset the trade relationships and just the geopolitical relationships generally around the globe. but it's put America back in the driver's seat. And it has proven what the president always said, which is the American consumer, the American market matters the most.

And all of these companies, we have CEOs in all the time, okay? They like this. They want to build here. They just want to know that it's going to be stable. It's been a one-way open market to the U.S.

for a really long time, while other countries have abused our people and our businesses. And the president's trying to balance that.

So there's a lot at stake. We hope the court will make the right decision. But most importantly, The president just wants it answered sooner rather than later. Has it hindered the talks with Canada and India that I know and maybe Mexico about because we've not had a trade deal in a few weeks. They were supposed to be thought to be next.

Have people said we're going to wait for the courts to rule? No, very much. Trade deals are ongoing. I mean, I think these countries are smart enough to know that the president is not going to walk away from this. We will continue to push and we will find a way one way or another.

I mean, this is something President Trump has been talking about for 40 years, long before he ran for office. If you go back and look at Donald Trump of the 1980s and 1990s, he was talking about this. He has thought deeply about this issue. He has an economic team that has thought deeply about this issue. You have Scott Besson, who is a renowned professor of economic history.

People have thought deeply about this and what tariffs have meant in sort of the course of economic history. And this is something we are going to see through one way or another. And I think the other countries recognize that.

So it has not chilled trade talks. Trade talks continue to be great. I think just yesterday we finalized the Japan deal and it was signed by the president.

So things continue to move forward.

So what about Canada? Is that close? I can't speak exactly to what is continuing to be negotiated. I think the conversations are ongoing. I mean, close is a relative term.

Look, we've got some significant disagreements with the Canadians, as you know, but we will continue to work at it. And, you know, we'll see where we get. The president, as I said about Canada, you know, the president doesn't need to deal with Canada so much as Canada needs to deal with us.

So Canada is going to have to give us a good deal. And that's just the way it is. It's obvious they pulled up their hard line that got Carney elected.

Now he realizes this is not going away.

So it looks like he's been more aggressive in trying to get a deal done. Also, it looks like the president wanted to get the USMCA updated. Is that correct?

Well, look, what the president wants ultimately is a trade system, however we come by it, and we may ultimately ask friends on Capitol Hill for help. We want a trade system that is fair to the United States and recognizes the supremacy of the American market. And when you see all of these other countries that protect their own markets by having very high tariff barriers and non-tariff barriers, not only on us but other parts of the world, it's just not fair.

So, look, we're going to use our tools at our disposal to create a system that is fair to the American people, ultimately, and recognizes that it has been a one-way open market into the United States, not outbound for a very long time.

So we'll use all tools at our disposal, whether that's trade deals formal, whether that's congressionally ratified deals, whether that's tariffs to make that happen during his term. We're talking to James Blair. He is the White House deputy chief of staff.

So we understand 400 plus illegals were arrested at a major at a major Hyundai plant over in Georgia.

So you went in there. Were there criminals there? Is this the worst of the worst or is this something else? Look, the president has always been focused on deporting the criminals first and foremost, and those that are dangerous, a large bulk of the people that are being arrested and deported are criminals. And first of all, I mean, they're all criminals in the sense that they all broke the law to get here, but primarily focused on people who are committing crimes in this country actively.

But at the macro level, the president campaigned on this is that we've got to get illegal immigrants out of the country. There's many, many more than I think the numbers ever suggested. They said 8 million, 10 million. The president thinks there is 20 or 25 million. Either way, it's a lot, and we're going to continue to plow forward with deportation, which is something we campaigned on.

It's something the American people support still, to this day. If you ask voters, who do they trust more on immigration, Republicans or Democrats, it's overwhelmingly Republicans. Do you support mass deportation, particularly of criminals? Yes, they do.

So the president is just continuing to do what he said he was going to do. I don't think anyone's surprised by this. And, you know, I don't see us stopping anytime soon. I did ask him about what are you going to do with people who have been here a while that are vital to meatpackers, hospitality and farmers, many of which voted for him. Here's what he told me.

Do you have a plan to give them long term work visas, not citizenship, to not hurt the people, not hurt our economy?

So as you know I won the election with the farmers by like 88 I won the election with the people that want strong borders by probably 100 I would imagine right I mean how could you vote for somebody that wants open borders that never called the Border Patrol that never went to the site We have to take care of our farmers. We love our farmers. But we also have to take care of people that want total security and safety in our country. We're going to take care of both. Do you think within three months you'll have an answer to the hospitality workers, meat packers, and farmers?

Because I think they make up...

So within three months? Yep. I think people are going to be happy.

So how does that, number one, have you seen the plan in terms of giving people long-term work visas and having other requirements like a sponsor? Have you seen the framework of a plan like that? And number two, how does that gel with this raid?

Well, look, there's enforcement priorities, okay? And I think that the enforcement priorities, you know, are generally being followed. And I think that you've seen that borne out. the president put out some public directives on the groups you mentioned, hospitality workers and farm workers. But most importantly, there seems to be a lot of focus on process, but no one is pointing to any downside of continuing to deport people.

We're getting criminals out of the country. We're doing what we said we would. Nobody is saying they can't run a business. Nobody is saying that they don't have employees. They don't have labor.

None of those things are being said.

So, you know, I think it's much ado about nothing largely. And we'll see what continues to unfold. But first and foremost, we're focused on the enforcement that we committed to the American people. And we're going to keep doing that. No one ever thought the border in their lifetime would be shut down like it is.

And it's all the deterrence, knowing that if you come, you're going to be kicked out. If you spend your life savings, it's going to go to waste. And also So people hear the numbers are over a million people self-deported. Is that correct?

Yes, that is correct. I think people understand that the American people are not willing, nor are they responsible to carry the load of the entire world. There is a legal immigration system. You can come through it. Many, many people have.

We are supportive of that. But jumping the border and, you know, just sort of going into our country, benefiting from all of the programs that the American people pay for. It's just not fair. It's not right. And we've got to restore balance to that.

And that's what we're doing.

So one of the big stories this week was seeing China have their military parade, celebrate 80 years of a victory of World War II, not mention the U.S., which is farcical in the defeat of Japan, minimized our role, which is hysterical. but it was also serious because you had North Korea, Russia, India, and China all walking together.

So the president just put this on True Social four hours ago. He goes, it looks like we lost India and Russia to the deepest, darkest China. May they have a long and prosperous future together. What are we to read into that? Do you look at India as lost, James Blair?

I will not speak for the president as it relates to what his view of other countries are. I think the president's word speaks for themselves. I think he issued stern warnings earlier this week on truth. I think he's continuing to make a point right now. I think you see right now that we have pressure on India for the buying Russian oil and everything else.

He's commented about this several times this week. I think the president is making a point that if you're getting into bed with geopolitical adversaries of the United States, you're going to need to think deeply about that and what costs that will come with. Here's the president on Vladimir Putin, because I know the president spoke to Zelensky yesterday. Cut 22. After your phone call with Ukrainian President Zelensky today, do you plan to speak with Russia's President Putin in the near future?

I will be. Yeah, I will be. We're having a very good dialogue. I settled seven wars. The one that I thought would be maybe one of the easiest.

You know that feeling? You think one thing is going to be easier. Turns out to be a little bit tougher.

So is Vladimir Putin somebody the president has not given up on trying to get something done? Because it seems as though this guy is not ready for peace. In fact, a day after getting the letter from the first lady saying return the children, essentially, he bombed a kindergarten in Ukraine.

So, James Blair, how much patience does the president have with Vladimir Putin? I don't think it's about patience. I think the president has continued to escalate pressure on both sides and get them to talk. And let's recognize where we are. Nobody in the entire world could even get communication going prior to President Trump.

So for those saying, well, there's not a deal yet, well, guess what? At least they're communicating and we're working on outlines and the two sides are at least remotely engaged. That was not the case before President Trump came into office. All that was happening was people were being mutilated on both sides, thousands a week, which continues. The Europeans couldn't do anything.

Joe Biden did nothing. Nothing was happening anywhere. Putin was just storming through Ukraine and going to take the whole thing. That's not happening anymore. The president has them talking.

So I think the president remains committed to peace. He is a peace loving president, although backed by strength. And I think he's hopeful. But again, we'll have to see that both sides are serious about that peace. What was the secretary of state, Marco Rubio, went from Mexico City to Ecuador, trying to give a message to Central and South America, declared two more gangs, terror organizations.

organizations we know blew up that boat in the Caribbean that was heading to Trinidad, perhaps with drugs. How does the president and how does the White House feel about some of the criticism that, well, you didn't know who was there and you should have arrested them? What do you say to that?

Well, first of all, of course, we know. I mean, of course, we know. Second of all, I think that if the Democrats, which I just tweeted about this a few minutes ago, are going to defend the right of murderous narco-traffickers and narco-terrorists to traffic drugs into the United States and murder into the United States. They should begin by explaining it to the families of the 80,000 Americans that overdosed just last year on illegal drugs. That's what the Democrats are standing up for.

They are defending narco-terrorists who are killing American citizens by the tens of thousands. President Trump says, enough. I'm not having it. It's just like cleaning up D.C. crime, Brian.

You can fix problems. The government can fix problems. It can protect the American people, which is the number one role of our system, is the number one thing the federal government is supposed to do, is to protect the American people. You can protect them from violent criminals. You can protect them from narco-terrorists.

You just have to have the will to do it. And President Trump has the will, and he's going to do it. And if the Democrats and the mainstream media want to take the sides of gangbangers and thugs and criminals and murderers and narco-traffickers, they should be our guests. I think they will get absolutely obliterated at the ballot box next year for us. And you can follow him on social media, at James Blair USA.

James, I need another two hours, and we still wouldn't cover everything you guys are going after. 200-plus executive orders and a lot of news. James Blair, thanks so much. Thanks, Brian. All right, back in a moment.

Newsmakers and newsbreakers here at first on the Brian Kilmeade show. Hey, I'm Trey Gowdy, host of the Trey Gowdy podcast. I hope you will join me every Tuesday and Thursday as we navigate life together and hopefully find ourselves a little bit better on the other side. Listen and follow now at foxnewspodcast.com. The talk show that's getting you talking.

You're with Brian Kilmeade. Hey, welcome back. Just real quick, I went along with James Blair, but you see how many topics we covered and how impactful this White House is. They're going 100 miles an hour, literally. But I'd like to add a couple other things.

Coming up on One Nation Sunday at 10, we'll cover a lot of this. Douglas Murray will be with us. Look at the president's choices on foreign policy, where we go from here. Also, the crackdown that we're seeing in Europe on free speech. What we're seeing is just unbelievable.

He lives in England. He travels the world. He'll be able to weigh in. Also, I'll have a chance to speak to Curtis Sliwa, who's zeroing in as the Republican nominee. He still thinks he has a shot.

Do you think he has a shot on Sunday to be the next mayor of New York City? We'll see. Also, he says he's not dropping out, but I will ask him anyway. Emily Austin will be with us. Tommy Lahren will be with us.

Michael LaRosa from the Biden administration will be there.

So it's going to be a big show. I don't want to. And Mike Lawler, congressman from New York. who continues to win these battleground districts. Don't move.

Brian Kilmeach, Joe, just around the bend. Trey Gowdy. You don't want to miss it. This is Jimmy Fallon, inviting you to join me for Fox Across America, where we'll discuss every single one of the Democrats' dumb ideas. Just kidding.

It's only a three-hour show. Listen live at noon Eastern or get the podcast at foxacrossamerica.com. He's so busy, he'll make your head spin. It's Brian Kilmeade. We're going to immediately go to court.

if National Guard or other military troops are sent to, deployed to the city of Chicago, immediately go to court.

So that's going to be our first line of defense, is getting a court to issue a TRO or other injunction against that activity.

So a temporary restraining order to cops stop President Trump for coming in with more FBI, more ICE agents, more Border Patrol, as well as National Guard, to guard against a crime-ridden city because I guess he wants to keep it crime-ridden because he feels as though the governor Pritzker is heading in the right direction. But if he could go to court, could he stop the National Guard from being deployed by the federal government? Because that's what a San Francisco justice did, Judge Breyer. Are they going to build off that case? Because I know the president's appealing that.

What does it mean legally? Let's bring in Trey Gowdy, former chairman of the House Oversight Committee, host of Sunday Night in America, Sunday's at 9 o'clock Eastern time that you watch every week. Author of a brand new book, number two, and then on the fiction list, it's called The Color of Death. Trey, welcome back. Thank you, Brian.

I got to see you last week in person, and I feel deprived. One of the most handsome men on the face of the earth, and I have to talk to you on the telephone. And last week, I got to see you in person. I know. What a thrill to see me in person.

Eric and Pete, do you want to back that up? Am I truly the most handsome person that you know stats for that? There's no stats, nothing available. OK, thank you very much, Jay. But in terms of I could tap into not only your print, you were a print model in the past.

That's how we found you. And you got recruited to law school. But can I tap into the law school background? Does Pritzker going to does he have a shot at being successful in forcing the president not to come in? It depends.

It depends on how the president phrases his order.

So I went and read Breyer's opinion in California, and I won't go into posse comitalis and all of that, except to say it's going to depend upon how the National Guard is used. And what I would recommend to the president is a very tightly worded order to Secretary Hegseth, and I would use the National Guard for non-law enforcement purposes, which then frees up the cops.

So the mere presence of guardsmen or police officers deters crime. I mean, that's been proven in D.C. It's been proven in every jurisdiction. Police presence deters. deters.

So would a military presence.

So they can't, you know, if you go and look at Breyer's order, which is 70-something pages long, there are certain things that guardsmen can do without running afoul of posse comitatus, and there are certain things they cannot do.

Now, even the judge in California agreed to stay his opinion because he knows it's going to be appealed, and quite candidly, the Ninth Circuit, which is where California is, is presumptively reversible. I mean, you can just presume they're going to be reversed. That's how wrong they usually are. What I find fascinating is Pritzker is willing to go to court to keep his city less safe. I know that's the animus he has for Trump.

It makes no sense. The one thing I would hope Trump would do as a project is you go in for 30 days, but have a program to sustain the success they're likely to have after he leaves.

So maybe it's massive recruiting. Maybe it's dollars to recruit to different officers. Maybe it's looking at the laws that maybe reasonable people would want to visit to make crime and punishment more of a deterrent. Maybe leave additional ICE agents or Border Patrol, whatever it is. I just worry about after 30 days, everything goes back as opposed to fixing one city at a time.

Well, I want to make you feel better. 90% of all crime is committed by less than 10% of your fellow citizens. Right.

So the key is when you have a chance to separate that 10% from society, which requires good prosecutors, not progressive prosecutors, good prosecutors, good cops and good cases.

So if the prosecutors do their job, then you will slowly see crime go down. And then if you can maintain that presence, I mean, even a marked squad car, literally, Brian, a marked squad car with a mannequin in it is the data shows that it slows drivers down. You don't even have to expend the woman power or the manpower of putting a cop in the car. Just a marked car with a mannequin has a deterrent effect.

So police presence, military presence, and then good prosecutors, the whole world is not likely to hurt you. It's a very small percentage. But we've got to separate them from society.

So what Pritzker did to bring up the legal aspect of this, cut 40. There is no way for me to override. State law does not override federal law.

So we have to abide by the law. We do that in the state of Illinois. We abide by the law. We abide by state law and federal law, unlike the president of the United States, who often acts in unconstitutional fashions.

So he's right about that, right? State law is not Trump, federal law. But if they walk into a hostile environment, these National Guardsmen, would they end up in a situation like Portland where they see no local cops and they become a target of anarchists?

Well, they're not.

Well, first of all, even a blind squirrel finds a nut every now and again. Yes, Governor Pritzker is correct on the supremacy clause. Federal law enforcement agents don't need his permission to go in force.

So if you're talking about the FBI, DEA, ICE, they don't need his permission, and he can't get in the way or else they will arrest him.

So he can't obstruct. When you're talking about guardsmen, then that brings in posse comatitis. That brings in using the military for domestic law enforcement. That's when you've got to be super detailed in exactly what you are asking the guard to do. And so somebody was belittling the guard recently for fixing planting mulch.

All of that actually matters when it comes to fighting crime, by the way. All of that matters.

So how you use the guard, is it for the protection of federal buildings or is it for crowd control in areas not connected to federal facilities? It's got to be a tightly drawn order, but his lawyers know that, and they'll do a good job. All right. Your book is number two on the fiction list.

So congratulations on that. It's called The Color of Death. Trey, what are people telling you when they read it or what's some of the feedback you've gotten since it came out last week?

Well, they've been incredibly kind, for which I'm grateful, because, as you know, you're a prolific author yourself. It's not the first thing you and I, every English teacher you are ever had is shocked that we read a book, much less wrote one.

So people have been really, really kind. The dominant reaction to it is you left me hanging. But I did that on purpose. I mean, as I shared with you, I had way too much material for one book. You know, my editors and my publisher said, look, we see three books here, not one.

I tried to cram every, I mean, it's been in my head for 10 years. I tried to cram it all in one book, and they said, no, no, no, no. This is a series.

So they're right. I purposely left some strings dangling because in my mind, they're reconciled. They are cleaned up in books two and three.

So I would say to everyone that is saying, wait, I can't believe you did that to me. Number one, I'm sorry. But number two, I am going to make it right. It's just coming in books two and three. All right.

Trey, congratulations. It's called—I've got to go pick it up. It's called The Color of Death. It's a Fox book. But, Trey, who do you have on Sunday at 9 o'clock Eastern time?

Oh, I've got a horrific story, Brian, that breaks my heart. I'm going to try to get through it without crying. a beautiful 22-year-old girl was simply visiting Columbia, South Carolina, executed on her knees by someone who had been arrested 40 times.

So her father is going to come on and celebrate her life, but also ask, why is this not a death penalty case? I got John Cornyn coming on. We're going to talk about vaccines in the hearing with Secretary Kennedy. We're going to talk about about what happened off the coast of Venezuela. And look, I mean, we've been fighting with the cartel since they killed Kiki Camarena back when I was in law school.

And now war is ongoing, but Trump is ratcheting it up. We're not extraditing people and prosecuting them. He's blowing them out of the water.

So look, I have the misfortune of being wedged between Mark Levin and Brian Kilmeade.

So I am grateful for the show, but I'm surrounded by talented hosts. I'm grateful for every eyeball I get because I got stars before me and stars coming after me.

Well, yeah, your show's doing the best. I mean, it's number one or number two every single weekend, so it's doing fantastic. I got a big family, Brian. It must be really big and spread out and international. Trey Gowdy, congratulations on the book.

Go out and pick it up. Listen, you are an escape. A lot of people say, even during school, read a book that gets you out of schoolwork, whether it's studying whatever you're doing, it escapes. This book is an escape, but it's based on all his years as a prosecutor and everything he knows, sadly, about crime. The color of death.

Trey Gowdy, thanks so much. Congratulations, brother. Thank you, brother. Hopefully you go number one this week. Back to wrap up this hour.

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We will do this through a groundbreaking program called IBM Skills Build, which we launched to help expand access to AI education, but also to create pathways for these high-demand technical roles. That is the CEO of IBM. I had a meeting yesterday with the President of the United States with all these other tech titans from Zuckerberg to Pinchow, Google, run by David Sachs of the White House, PayPal founder and other things. But he just talked about what they plan on doing, where they're going to get the energy.

So what about the head of Google who found out through court system he does not have to break up his company, so he was quite happy. Listen to what he says his biggest worry is and the investment he's putting in. It's why we are offering our Gemini for education to every high school in America. We are providing access to every high school student and every teacher with our best AI tools, including guided learning. We recently committed $1 billion over the next three years to support education and job training programs in the U.S.

And today I'm excited to share that $150 million of that $1 billion will go towards grants to support AI education and digital well-being. Wow. He's put a lot of money in. Zuckerberg has put a lot of money in. And they want to build their own power plant.

Here's my hope. I want them to compete. I got it. I see that Zuckerberg's offering some astronomical sum, $500 million for some of the most innovative people from Sam Altman's company. But they have to work together on one element.

Number one, to be responsible, set up guardrails for kids. Number two, be responsible in terms of making sure the U.S. remains number one. Can you do that while competing with each other? That's the key.

Here's David Sachs, Cut 45. You know, when it comes to the topic of AI, there is a lot of fear out there.

some people think that AI is going to take all of our jobs. I really don't think that's going to happen. I think AI is going to unleash a productivity boom like we've never seen. It's going to make all of us more productive. It's going to make our jobs more satisfying.

And there's an online quote that's been flying around that says, you're not going to lose your job to AI, but you might lose your job to someone who uses AI better than you. And I think there is some truth to that, that, you know, that AI is going to be the ultimate boost for our workers.

Now, what I worry about is this. I worry about, you know, I used to be really good at directions, and before I'd go anywhere I didn't know, I'd break out a map.

So I would know, okay, I remember that landmark, and, you know, at least I'm heading north, northwest, and if I missed the road, at least I'm heading in the right direction. And ever since we got the apps, I am terrible at directions. Absolutely awful. I don't know any phone numbers. I know the phone numbers I knew maybe since 2000, but now I just get someone's contact.

I put it in my contacts and people say, what's the phone number? I have no idea. I worry that if AI is organizing things, doing things, thinking for me in many respects, that my only talent is knowing what to ask AI and letting AI have the answers. I worry about my brain atrophying or the sharpness going. And then you wonder, you know, who can use it better.

Yeah, it gets ahead. And the other thing is, at the end of the day, what have you really learned? I learned how to ask AI a question that got me the best answer possible, aggregated the soundest. I mean, with talk radio, you can't BS it. I can't just have AI say, what should I say?

Because this is all unscripted, basically besides sound bites. But that's the one thing I worry about. I mean, if you talk to anybody that used to be good with directions, they're not. Everybody uses. And now you use it all the time, even when you know where you're going, because you want to look at traffic.

So again, you're not using your head again. You're not deciphering it yourself.

So I like the fact that the First Lady is doing it and taking over the initiative. Number one, she's an extremely hard worker. Number two, if it's an involved kid, she's going to be relentless. And number three, this guy, Mark Beckman, is an NYU professor, but he's one of our confidants, It's like an executive that's been working with her on all aspects of her businesses prior and through the president's presidencies. He's an AI expert, teaches a course in it.

So he'll be able to work with her in the format. Doesn't necessarily mean you have to be an expert right now, but by the end of this, most likely she'll be. And it just shows you the president's 200 executive orders. Everything is up in the air from the names of departments. The Gulf of Mexico is now Gulf of America.

I'm going to put in fine way to get crime under control in D.C., Chicago, New Orleans. who knows even Philadelphia at the same time try to make the war on drugs an actual shooting war I mean that's a lot to have in the air an actual shooting war and then you have somebody like Marco Rubio who you know you can trust he sends him down to Ecuador goes to Mexico City and they say look we had we we interviewed some of those drug kingpins that are in jail for the rest of their lives and they say that they bought off every Mexican politician that's why they were able to thrive you might say he's lying but he's got proof of it and he's got and she knows it's true It wasn't her idea, but she's president because somebody paid off somebody.

So Marco Rubio is in Ecuador and he says, look, this is about Venezuela. Cut 31. I've seen a lot of this reporting and it's fake reporting and I'll tell you why. Let there be no doubt. Nicolas Maduro is an indicted drug trafficker in the United States and he's a fugitive of American justice.

And he's going to be rounded up and his gangs are working with other narco terrorist gangs in Ecuador. He's named them. They're now ripe to be targeted. Maria Karina Machado won the last election. She can't take power because she doesn't have the power.

But if Maduro goes, she'll be in. Cut 30. Maduro is the head of a narco-terrorist structure, corporation.

So Maduro has finally, and it's understanding finally, that the time of impunity is over. And it is in his best interest to accept the will of the people that voted against him. It's time to go. But he's got China in his pocket. And with China in his pocket, Huawei on his phone, he feels as though China has already given a warning to us.

We just blew it off of saying we should give each country respect for the integrity of their borders.

Well, when those people in those borders bleed into our country and kill our people, all bets are off. China, your boat was interdicted with all the fundamentals and the precursors to the drugs that are killing Americans. And you were stopped by Judge Jeanine. nine 18-wheeler trucks full of drugs that are heading to our borders. Brian Kilmeach.