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We got a big hour coming your way. We're going to be joined by Marcus Lamonis. How do I know? He's in the studio already, host of the fixer, and he's done so much throughout his career, but he's going to be, his show is going to be on tonight at 8 o'clock on FBN and also streaming on Fox Nation. And you saw it on the network too.

And then we're gonna be joined by Lieutenant Colonel Alan West, all coming up this hour, as well as taking your calls. Before we get to markets, let's get to the big three. Number three. The extraordinary success of this mission. Was due to the selfless courage of the United States military and our diplomats.

So, for all this talk of chaos, I just didn't see it. It's a logistical success, but a strategic. Failure. What an embarrassment. Four years since the Afghanistan disaster.

What have we learned? as this president looks to solve our newest challenges with North Korea as well as Ukraine, but first and foremost, we have to get something done and find out what went wrong so it never happens again in Afghanistan. Number two. We wouldn't wake up every day to a bunch of shit on TV and a bunch of nonsense. Not a man-child crying about whatever's wrong with him.

May his fat ankles find something today. Raleigh, have the Democrats learned anything? That is Governor Tim Waltz of Minnesota. The Democrats regroup and reinvigorate their identity politics in ridiculous political correctness. The only thing new was the profanity.

Number one. And they say, we don't need him. Freedom, freedom. He's a dictator. He's a dictator.

A lot of people are saying maybe we like a dictator. I don't like a dictator. And then you send in troops instead of being praised. They're saying you're trying to take over the Republic. fighting crime or allowing crime.

You make the choice. America as President Trump makes law and order a priority in getting results while Dem see no evil and recognize no gains or Blue City needs. And that's where we're at now. Marcus Limonis is in the studio. Marcus, great to see you.

Again, it's been two hours. I know. I know. And are you going to the U.S. Open?

Is that why you're wearing the tie? I'm wearing my yellow tie. You know, I put it on this morning. My wife said it looked ridiculous. I like it.

Because it's not spring. I said it's tennis week in New York. Absolutely. It's the only good thing happening in New York right now, other than the people. This election's not going to make me feel so good about my tie.

Right, absolutely.

So first off, where's the economy at from your perspective, from the people you meet and from the businesses you're in? Yeah, I actually think the economy is okay. I mean, there's obviously a lot of noise around tariffs. People are concerned. This latest move on Friday by Trump to address the investigation of furniture is going to put I think a few businesses in a bit of a for those who missed it, what is he going to do?

So there was a discussion on Friday, President Trump talked about investigating the importing of furniture from around the globe. And I think what he's really looking for is: have people been trying to circumvent the tariff process? Have they been trying to take stuff to Canada, around the Horn, around the water, and making sure that there is a very specific process around furniture? The idea is in Michigan, a lot of commercial furniture is made. Grand Rapids, you go up, you see Steelcase, Kimball.

You go into North Carolina, that's where Hickory is, all the furniture that's built there. I know the idea is that we want to build more here.

Okay, Brian, you and I have talked about it. Yep. You understand that takes time. You can't just pop up a factory tomorrow and start making furniture. We don't have the manufacturing capacity to do it.

But I do agree with President Trump that any company. That is circumventing Any process around the tariffs needs to be investigated and there needs to be harsh consequences for it. I mean, remember the USMT, the US-Mexico trade agreement. we watch China start building factories in Mexico and saying, okay, these are Mexican companies. They're not.

They're Chinese companies. I think we want to look for those loopholes. And what I am concerned about is what does it ultimately do to the consumer? The consumer right now seems to be fine. Seems to be fine.

Because I think a lot of the manufacturers are kind of eating a lot of the retailers are eating the costs. I think the manufacturers are eating some of the costs, the distributors are eating some of the cost, and candidly, the consumer is absorbing some of the costs. But it doesn't seem to be breaking anybody yet. Couple of things. If uh President Trump can get the price of everyday goods down.

We haven't really seen that in the supermarket. Inflation is just over 2%, 2.5%. But the cost of everyday goods has not come down. How do you do that?

Well, I think the average person on the street thinks inflation and they think COVID. And COVID was a function of the supply and demand curve breaking, right? People were there's free money everywhere. People were consuming more than could be produced. In this particular case, inflation is transitory.

There's a reset of the price. It isn't that demand is outpacing supply and that's what's driving up the price. Tariffs, other costs that are out there are driving up the price, and consumers seem to be able to be settling into that a little bit more. How do you drop general prices? I'm not sure you can.

There's not many moments in history where prices go back. Right. I don't see them go backwards. Because we had that 9% push two and a half, three years ago. You went ahead, and one of the companies that you reinvigorated was Bed Bath and Beyond.

You made a decision last week. I looked at the math. It doesn't pay for us to go into California or not. Gavin Newsom is trying to be president. He took that personal and he mocked the fact that Bed Bath and Beyond Bed Back Back Black.

It's not relevant anymore. It's not relevant anymore. It's funny. What was that exchange like? You know, I put out a statement, I think it was last Tuesday morning, talking about how difficult it is to do business in California.

And it was purely on the basis of if you go into California to rent a space, it's expensive. If you have to hire people, it's expensive. If you have to pay all these tort fees, it's expensive. And the cost, the yield for doing business in California isn't good. Minimum wage, too?

It's not a labor issue. A lot of people came after me and said, you don't want to pay people the right amount of money. I have no problem paying people more than they're worth. No problem. It's all the other layers of expenses that are out there.

Instead of Gavin Newsom, Governor Newsom, coming out and saying, hey, I don't agree with your position. I think you're wrong about these five things. I'd love to have a discussion with you and other business leaders. His comment was, in fact, it came out of his press room first. Let us know when Bed Bath and Beyond is relevant again.

I understand you've opened one store. Call us when you open two. He then comes back and says things like, I created this new red hat. It says Newsom was right about everything. Bed Bath and Beyond called me and asked me if they could sell it.

I said, absolutely not. It's the amount of time. And so I'm on these text chains with chairmans and CEOs of big major technology companies in California saying, Marcus, we love you, we like him. There was a text change set up between all three of us. I said, listen, I'd be happy to talk about it.

Governor, I'd be happy to sit down and talk about what the issues are. No response. No response. And so I'm not sure. I'm sure he's a pleasant and delightful human being.

You do? I'm sure he is. Sure. I have to believe the best in everybody. But from a philosophical standpoint, I'm not sure what game he's playing right now.

Right. To me, I would be just mad. If I'm a public official, I'm doing a service. My goal is to bring as much industry as possible to the people that put me in office. I couldn't care less whether Gavin Newsom liked me or not.

If I'm the governor, I'm calling up Marcus Lomonas and I'm saying, how do I work this out? Number one, I wouldn't start with personal insult, but Trump has done that too. But he says when you come to see him, I'll give you the best example to contrast the two. He didn't like the CEO of, I think it was Intel. He said he's got too many hooks to the Chinese.

So his guy calls up and says, Can I come see you? He said, Of course. They met? And now now it looks like the government owns a piece of Intel. Go ahead, let's work it out face to face.

That seems to be the way you roll. Listen, I got frustrated and I had to hold everything back from getting really hyperbolic with him. What I realize is I'm setting an example for other business leaders and other young folks who are looking at that saying, you can disagree about a topic. I did, I did. But you can disagree about a topic.

But at the end of the day, if you have the fourth largest economy in the world, as he's told me nine times and told everybody else, why not try to have the third largest economy? Why not try to figure out a way to generate more from the marketplace as opposed to just raising taxes and generating? What? I've I've even a better suggestion. If you have the fourth largest economy, maybe you could try to get it out of the red and move it to the black.

Why are you in deficit, yet you have the highest taxes in the country? Maybe we could work on the math problem together. Or maybe I'm going to get one of the most successful business people in the country to give me some advice and tell me what other states are doing. I wrote him a whole dissertation about the nine steps to actually solve this problem in California. I posted it.

Everybody else reposted it. His office saw it. He just doesn't want to engage, and I'm not quite sure. If and I said to him, If you have aspirations of being more than the governor, This is the moment where you can show people that you can rise above the silliness. I don't have time to talk about selling hats on my I just don't have time to do it.

Neither do I.

So how do you feel about this? I know Republicans are not happy with it, like Rand Paul, but the President of the United States said to Intel, And I think Navidia I think we should own a a piece of this. We are subsidizing Intel. We're incentivizing you to come back with your production. Shouldn't the American people benefit from this?

Guys like Bernie Sanders love this. Mark we know Secretary Luttnick loves this. At least he says he does his Commerce Secretary. Marcus, how do you feel about it? Why does Bernie Sanders love it?

He says the American people should benefit from the public investment in a private company. I think that both sides of the aisle have probably created a little bit of misinformation. It isn't like on Friday Donald Trump decided to shake hands with Intel and write a check. There was money that was already deployed inside of Intel. It's already deployed.

By the previous administration. That's right. It's not new money. It's not new money. It's money that's already deployed.

And the goal behind our government is: once something is done, how do you maximize the outcome? And I think the way they're looking at it is if we can drive chip making here in the U.S. and we can drive advancement at Intel, rather than taking my loan back, if I can. Two exit, three exit, four exit. Why wouldn't I do that?

I understand that people don't want, on both sides of the aisle, people don't want government to be involved in private business. but the money was already there. It's not a new transaction. On the other side, you talk about NVIDIA and Trump saying, Hey, I want to get a little vague for everything you sell into China. For the country, not for him.

That's right. People are upset about that. Listen, if you want to pay me a fee to go do business somewhere else, business that you're going to do anyway, and it's going to build the value of the company, and the American public is going to make money from that, I don't understand what the problem is. People are making this correlation that we're acting like China with the government owning businesses. Listen, during COVID, didn't we put a lot of money in the big three and the autos?

Absolutely. Did we get all our money back? How about 2008? Did we get all our money back? No.

Okay. A couple of things. If I'm competing with Intel. you have a company and you're making chips. And all of a sudden the government's invested in Intel.

How do we feel about that?

Now, is the government going to be picking winners and losers? Is it going to be certain things, especially something as high tech and really as national security oriented? I think that's probably the real issue that has merit. Is the government picking winners and losers? And any time you have a dog in the fight, Your job is to pick the winners.

Your job is to give that business advancement. If you and I bought 10% of whatever company it was, we're going to promote it, we're going to adorn it, we're going to tell other people about it, we're going to want that business to win because we have a vested interest in it. I don't know why that's a bad thing. Right. Okay.

So do we have another segment? We do.

Okay, great.

So when we come back, I want to talk about your show tonight. All right. And I also want to get your take on the deficit. I think all this is for one reason. As the tariffs come in and the pieces of places like Intel come in, the President is laser focused on the deficit.

I know Scott Besant is, and I'm wondering if this could be a bigger play than that. To try to reverse the $37 trillion and stop it from growing, which it did, I understand, last month, because the interest rate on that debt is taking away all our discretionary spending. Does Marcus Limonis feel that way? His show is going to be on tonight on FBN at 8 o'clock. It's called The Fixer, Don't Move.

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Marcus Limonis is here. He's host of the Pixar. He just bought Bed Bath and Beyond. Executive Chairman there. And Marcus, I'm excited that you're going to be on FBN tonight.

Yeah, I'll meet you. It's a different kind of episode. You know, we've had we've had we aired them all on the network, and now we're airing them on Fox Business. This is, I think, the fifth episode. Tonight's a good example.

Kind of like the relationship with Gavin Newsome. Not every relationship's going to work out. And I think the viewer is going to be really stunned to see that happen. Really stunned.

So, we do have a clip, Allison. Is it from this episode?

Okay, great.

Let's listen.

So when people come in, it's BYOB at our location. Other locations, if we do get to open those, we'll be able to have a liquor license provided it's, you know, Hoboken is a BYOB town because of the liquor license laws. But why did you pick a location that you couldn't get a liquor license if that was your concept? We wouldn't want to have the liquor license be the limiting factor to growth. That isn't tipsy in your name?

Yeah. But that's why they need BYOB. We're BYOB.

Okay, cool. Yeah. That was cool, which is like, that's the stupidest thing I ever did. It accelerated from there, and I ended up, you'll have to watch it, but I ended up. having a blowout with them about five minutes later.

And what happens is, can you just tell everyone because you're not an actor? But you have a terrible actor. In fact, I tried to do a movie and it was terrible. It's really, it's almost like following over my shoulder as I go into a business to try to help them figure out. What's right and what's wrong?

I do it with my own money. I invest or I don't invest. In this particular case, I don't invest. And over the years, I've done it a lot. And the goal is really to have people understand the do's and don'ts of business.

Right. But it's really an.

So, you want the audience watching to pick stuff up? I want them to play along. I want them to say, like on social, we're out there texting, and people say, don't do it, invest, don't invest. I want people to play along, but I want young kids to learn. The art of the handshake, the art of the deal, how to be honorable, how to treat people with respect, what not to do, what to do.

I don't want to give too much out of the episode, but did you go in hoping to do a deal, or did you say, I'm taking this? I'm taking this and I'm going to, I see potential here. When I pick them specifically from tonight. I was going in to teach them and the viewer a lesson. I didn't actually think I would ever do a deal.

I went in to teach them a lesson about the right attitude and the right mindset, and they didn't have it. Who taught you the fundamentals? Where did you learn the fundamentals? I learned the fundamentals on Southwest A Street in Lejeune. It's Little Havana in Miami.

And that's the hard knocks. My family had a car business in the middle of Little Havana in the 1990s. And one day, well, I'll share a couple stories with you, but people used to come in from around the world. And I remember being there as a little kid and seeing men show up. Uh from South America with uh uh suitcases full of cash.

Suitcases. Like a million dollars of cash to buy 10 suburbans, 12 suburbans, 20 suburbans. And so I learned a little bit about that. I also watched my dad negotiate with the city of Miami and how the backroom deals were done. My dad passed away now, and I saw him bribe people, and I saw how government worked, and I saw it all.

So when I came out, I was like, there's a way to do business, and then I'm going to do it the opposite of how my dad did it. Street, but you have the street smart gene. I'm more of a street smarts person than I am a book smarts person. What did you learn in school? I think I was a Political science major at Marquette.

So, you didn't do much business? I had terrible grades.

So, a lot of this stuff is on instinct and what you learned as a kid. It's time. I'm young. I started business when I was 25. I worked my first public company, I was 27.

Leah Acoca hired me as the CEO of a public company. Wow. The company was going out of business. I learned how to wind it down. And that company was?

It was an RV business. It doesn't exist anymore. Holiday RV superstores.

So I've learned a lot. And you picked a, so you have this, you literally have learned on the street. I'm a pretty scrappy guy. That's how people would describe me. I could put on a tie and a suit.

This is the only time I ever dressed like this. Did you ever feel compelled to get the PhD, being that you've had that type of success? Did you want the paperwork to back in? No, because business is too much of a drug for me. I love it.

It's just the way I consume it. I'd have to stop and go to school.

So I asked Phil Knight, I go, I read your book. It must have been so stressful every month not be able to make payroll and have it played to the bank. And he said, Brian. I loved every second of it. I go, you didn't know if you were going to survive.

You didn't know if the sneakers were going to be going to survive. 2008 and 9, same thing for me. I was in the RV business. I thought I was going to go out of business. Car business and the housing market combined.

Awful. But it's the stress that you thrive on because you feel you can solve it. That's what I do. I'm a problem. I'm a fixer.

There you go. We have the shell on Fox. Check it out. It's on Fox Nation and Fox Business. It's called The Fixer.

Marcus Kimonis, thanks so much. Hopefully, you'll continue to come by. You got it, buddy. This is Jimmy Fala, inviting you to join me for Fox Across America, where we'll discuss every single one of the Democrats' dumb ideas. Just kidding, it's only a three-hour show.

Listen live at Noon Eastern or get the podcast at foxacrossamerica.com. A talk show that's real. This is the Brian Kill Me Show. and you will usher in a new era of peace on the Korean Peninsula. I will do that and we'll have talks.

He liked to meet with me. He didn't want to meet with Biden because he had no respect for Biden. But we look forward to meeting with him and uh will make relations better. You'll help that better. Yeah.

A lot of uh leaders I've gone through a lot of uh leaders in South Korea. Quick, you'll be there for a long time. But we, in the various leaders that I've dealt with, And they were not approaching it properly, in my opinion, having to do with North Korea. But I think you're your approach is a much better one.

So let's see, they had a new leader of South Korea, and I've read the, you know, just getting ready for that meeting and understanding what they wanted to accomplish. This leader did not want to make waves. His goal was to come to the White House, meet the president, tell him what their objectives are, and not make news.

So he sat there for over an hour. By the way, great posture, at which time, He said, and we thought there's going to be a big deal. Evidently, they got a problem with the Catholic Church there. They're doing some unsavory things with some of their raids. I don't know details of it, but he was confronted with it.

I think he handled it well. They're going to address it behind closed doors.

So I imagine President Trump is not shy. He did. The other thing is he's going to China to try to reinvigorate relations there. They've been contentious. Why?

Because in North Korea, South Korea, and South Korea represents, like Taiwan, what a market economy can do for the quality of life of its people. And they don't like that example. Joining us now is Lieutenant Colonel Alan West. It was fresh off. It was not that long ago, three days ago, where we had a chance to go on stage of a three and a half-hour show on Fox Nation, where Lieutenant Colonel Alan West had a number of parts.

He played himself in the open. He also was able to help me out in the VIP area. And then he played Frederick Douglass and Booker T. Washington. Lieutenant Colonel Alan West, Dallas County Republican Party Chair, American Constitutional Rights Union Executive Director.

Welcome back. It's good to be with you, Brian. Thanks for having me on. It was fantastic to see you, and I am deeply humbled and honored that you allowed me to be a part of your program there in Dallas this past Saturday. Yeah, and if people weren't in Dallas, and we had a huge crowd, but if they weren't there, they saw it on Fox Nation.

Here's a clip of Lieutenant Colonel Alan West as Frederick Douglass. This is pretty good, but. There's going to be a guy by the name of Joe Biden that's going to take credit for this in the future. What is going to happen? What else do you need from me?

What else can I do for you? You know, we could use some help with the war effort. What about the black soldier? You know, I think that I can call up my friends. Morgan Freeman and Denzel Washington.

What are you talking about? And they will be in a movie about black soldiers, and one of them will win the Academy Award. This is such great improv. We will do this. You know, the party of the jackass will tear down our statues later on in life.

Wonderful. After all we did. After all we did. Do you have something to say about me being honest? I didn't know about you before I came here, but for a white boy, you're pretty honest.

That was so we try to do it with and we played honestly. What we try to do with each one of my books is we ti try to get one scene. We kind of stick to the story, the theme of the story, but then whatever happens in between happens. And that was the President and Freedom Fighter. And in it, we gave you.

15 minutes to say this is what we want, and the hour by the time you hit stage, that was all ad-lib, Colonel. I did not know you had that in you.

Well, I mean, I had to bring it, and it was, it was, you know, you say stay within yourself.

Well, I decided to go outside myself a little bit.

So you seemed to have fun. The crowd loved you. Yeah, it was A good time, and of course, my wife was ribbing me on the way driving back home. What did she think? Which she loved the program, loved the the show.

Thanks for taking a selfie with her. But she had never really seen that side of me too often. And so it was nice. It was nice to share it. It was great.

So I'm going to have to have you travel. We're going to Richmond next on September 27th.

So we've got to bring you. And I got Lawrence Jones coming too.

So Colonel, let's just talk about what's happening right now. The President of the United States meeting with the South Korean leader yesterday, at which time he said I would meet with Kim Jong-un again and try to work this thing out on the peninsula. Do you think that is something the president should target? You know, I spent 1995 in South Korea on the DMZ in the 2nd Infantry Division. And I think once again, when you're talking about dealing with North Korea, you first of all have to do it from a position of high ground and deal with China first, because North Korea is just that satellite, that client.

The fact that we have North Korean soldiers fighting with Russia and Ukraine tells you all that you need to know.

So yeah, I don't have any problem with the president sitting down and discussing things with Kim Jong-un, but I think the most important part is you do it from a position of strength. And we have got to bolster our economy. We've got to isolate Russia and China. And we've got to let North Korea know that we we would love for you to come into the World Forum, but we don't want you to continue down this path of being a repressive Stalinist country. And I think a big concern that a lot of people have is this new South Korean president.

We don't want to see him. towards going into the the Chinese sphere of influence. Absolutely not. And he was going to visit up there. And look, we're going to meet with China, and they clearly are a rival, economic as well as military.

I understand that.

So it's how they're going in, and that's hopefully that was handled behind closed doors.

So I want to the other thing is North Korea has really benefited from this Ukraine-Russia war. They were able to sacrifice their people. They don't care about their people. They put them into curse to help push the Ukrainians out. And now they're actually helping out with manufacturing because they're running out of Russian people to actually work in that country.

And now in exchange, they're getting military hardware, electronic and electronic aid, I guess, to move their tech unit further. And see, that's what we have to look at. You know, you and I have talked about this before: this 21st-century axis of evil, this collusion between Russia, China, Iran, and North Korea. We've got to find those gaps. We have to find those centers of gravity that we can go after and exploit.

To prevent them from being able to have this dependence upon each other and cause them to be in a position and isolate them from other countries. I think it's a great thing that we look at the secondary sanctions on India, and we should look at secondary sanctions on anyone else. That is helping to bolster the cause and the resourcing of these countries to be able to go and do what they're doing.

So that's what we have to look at first and foremost. is how we can go after them. And the economic issue is huge. The energy security issue is huge. Seventy $450 billion of energy that the European Union is going to get from us now.

That's going to put a dent in Vladimir Putin's oil and gas industry.

So I want you to hear what Congressman Pat Fallon, he's on the Armed Services Committee, said about where we're at now with Russia-Ukraine relations, CUP 31. Yeah, I think we're closer, but that doesn't mean we're necessarily close. And let me explain. Putin, first of all, this has been a massive miscalculation. He thought he'd roll over Ukraine in three weeks, and now we're three plus years later.

He's lost, they've suffered, Russia suffered a million casualties, 100,000 killed in action, 10,000 tanks, 20,000 armored vehicles, a third of their Black Sea fleet. They got an 830-mile new border with NATO, with Finland joining. And the Baltic is now a NATO lake because Sweden also joined. No one unites NATO quite like Vladimir Putin.

So he does need an off-ramp at some point. Do you think he thinks he does? No, I don't think he thinks he needs an offer up. I believe that you have seen since the meeting with the European leaders. uh what he has done as far as and continuing increasing his attack, the absurdity of Sergey Lavroff uh in his interview uh o uh this past weekend.

That's their mentality. And so I believe that right now, you and we just we discussed this on stage. You got to start looking at the means by which you can isolate him and get him to know that you're ser he's we're very serious. About this, either we end this in a peaceful manner or we crush you economically, energy-wise, and everything. We just isolate you.

So the one thing I want you to hear what President Trump said yesterday where we are at, because I think the President is getting pretty fed up with Vladimir Putin Cut 29.

Well that's going to be up to them. It takes two to tango. I always say it. And they should meet, I think, before I have a meeting and probably close the deal. But I think it's appropriate they meet.

They do not exactly get along well, as you can understand. And I'm sure it's a meeting that perhaps he didn't like. Uh but he wasn't happy about coming to the United States either. That was Um A big concession, and I appreciate the fact that he did.

Well, that is, there's no way that Putin and Zelensky are going to meet without Trump. I mean, that would be a disaster. There's nothing to say there. Trump has got to be the one. You're absolutely right.

You gotta have a referee uh because I would Wouldn't put it past, you know, coming to blows. I mean, you think about. You know, here is a person that has invaded a sovereign nation. He has taken away their children. He has killed innocent civilians.

it's going to be very hard for them to sit down and have any semblance of a peaceful conversation, a reasonable conversation, unless you have some type of intermediary there. And so President Trump was absolutely or someone. has to be there, that has the respect of both of those individuals. I just don't think it doesn't seem like they were. Lavrov wouldn't have said what he said last week if I thought they were close.

But Russia wants the entire Donetsk region, including the twenty five percent that Ukraine still controls. It's they say it's an unoccupied swath larger than Delaware, heavily reinforced defensive line known as the Fortress Belt. It stopped the Russians from rolling deep into their country because it's full of farmland and it will be a direct line to Kharkiv and then to Kyiv.

So we cannot allow, they cannot give it up.

Now, they've fortified it to the point they said it would take two years for Russia to win it militarily. We have to make sure that that's not part of the deal. There's a lot of people who just want this war over, but that can't be part of the deal. Don't you agree? No, absolutely.

Agree. I mean, because basically what you're doing is a Tablovian experiment where you're rewarding the most bad and abhorrent behavior. Uh that goes right back to Adolf Hitler with the Sudetenland. You know, just give me the Sudan land, and you know, I just want to protect the ethnic Germans, and everything will be fine. And they said, okay.

And then the next thing you know, he overruns Czechoslovakia. The next thing you know, he overruns Poland.

So, no, you cannot sit there as the invader and say, This is what I want. I want to keep all this territory. You can't have any security arrangements. No, that's a non-starter. And I think that they, in the back of their minds, realize this, but until someone comes out and says, absolutely not, this is not going to happen.

Because then, on top of that, they still want the Crimea, they still want the access. to have their naval forces in the uh in the Black Sea.

So they can't have their cake and eat it too. You can't take land that you haven't conquered yet or stolen yet. It's bad enough you stole the 18%.

So Colonel, the other thing that I think we should keep in mind in this in the big picture is that There was a story in the Wall Street Journal two days ago that said that the President of the United States Basically, not to the present, the Pentagon has told since the spring has told Ukraine do not use the attackems that we sent you. to hit into Russia.

Now the day two days ago, President put on Truth Social, you can't win a war just on defense. Ukraine has a great defense, but you can't win if you're not on offense, meaning that if you can't hit Russia, you can't win. Do you think the Pentagon is doing something the President doesn't want? Boy, I I really hope not. Uh because Yeah, yeah, it's happened before, and again, when these are high-stakes engagements.

And really and truthfully, this is something that we criticize the Biden administration on, from giving them something but then saying you can't use it. I don't want to see this administration go down the same path.

So it's very important they're on the same sheet of music. And I think it's also very important that Russia understands is that your military infrastructure is a viable target because that's what you're using to launch an invasion and a continued invasion of a sovereign nation.

So yeah, that has to be on the high payoff target list, and we need to let them know that they have that permission. It would be great. And just the fear of that is the type of things we'll get Russia legitimately to the table. Lieutenant Colonel Alan West, thanks again, Colonel. Great to see you.

Always. In person. Absolutely. All right. Thanks so much, Rob.

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Till Mari is our neighbor. You can't have him try.

So what was that from? People for Kilmore Brego Garcia, they're singing. You can't have him, Trump. He's our neighbor. I think it was a similar song from two weeks ago.

They said something, I don't know if it was the same as, but it's, I guess they just plug in different names.

So I was watching ABC this morning. They do the nightly news. They repeat it between 2 and Between two and three.

So they do the Kel Kilmar Arbrego Garcia story. A Maryland dad. The Maryland dad. And they say, you know, President Trump's determined to send him out, but a judge stopped him from sending him to Uganda when he reported back to ICE.

Okay. Remember he was originally sent to El Salvador, where they said that he couldn't go there because MS thirteen was a rival gang of his. It actually happens to be his gang.

So they sent him back, and now as soon as he was released, The ICE picked him up and they're going to send him to Uganda.

Now why? There's three reasons. Gang member? If you read the police report, and I did, it shows that he was picked up with other gang members in the Home Depot section where only other gang members would be.

So these gang units, and they picked him up, watched him for long enough, they looked at his tattoos, they haul him in. Then they find out in his background that he was supposed to be deported, but he asked for a delay. He said he was feared for his life or something. And then it found out he has two domestic abuse charges. I didn't know we also has.

Uh they as human trafficking. How do we know? Caught on camera twenty twenty three. He's got a minivan full of a bunch of people who don't speak English heading up from Texas en route to Illinois.

Now, the video is available to tell this story. They don't make they don't roll this video in, where he looks as guilty as sin. The other people sit there, look like they saw 20 ghosts at one time. Cops are leaning in, they're calling back to the base, going, This guy's clearly human trafficking. And because it's Joe Biden's America, they were said, with nothing we can do, let him go after about 45 minutes.

So human trafficking. Then they got child pornography. They don't bring any of this up. All this stuff is on them. They don't show the video.

They mention human trafficking, unproven. They say he's been accused of being MS-13. But they tell the story, make him a sympathetic figure, and they show a shot of him. Clearly emotional as he leaves to make him a sympathetic character. I think the American people showed you in the last election, they see past all of this, all this showmanship.

And all this wow, isn't it terrible that Kilmoro Brego Garcia Is somebody that we're kicking out. Why? He came here illegally at 16 years old. Since that time, he doesn't seem to have learned a word of English. How do we know that?

Because when he had a chance to speak to the World Press, because almost every network covered it, yesterday before going to the ICE facility, yesterday meeting Monday, he spoke pure Spanish. And had to have a translator go through it.

So you have no interest in coming here and assimilating. You were here illegally. You didn't leave when you were supposed to. You got involved in a gang. Human trafficking.

You have no discernible skills, but you live in a house and have a wife you beat up at least two times.

So why do we care about this guy?

Well, if you're Senator Van Hollen, you care about him because he's an illegal immigrant and Trump wants him out, and you think you can make some traction there. Mysteriously, he was not able to show up at yesterday's event and give a moving speech. Crazy. But understandable, we get it. I really do believe we get it.

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We have this hour, Ambassador Kurt Volcker standing by. Then we'll do a SamoCast with Stuart Varney on FBN. Stuart Varney is back in action now. And then I promise to be able to squeeze in some calls. Or if you're 1-866-408-7669 today, sometime soon, the president's going to do what I just love it.

I think every president should do it. The last one wasn't capable. And that is what he does is he has a cabinet meeting. He opens up the doors and lets all the media in. This way, if you want to talk economics, you want to talk military, you want to talk.

EPA about the environment. Everybody's right there. And we're in front of the president, so there are no secrets.

So, whatever you want to say about the president being transparent, you cannot get more transparent than that.

So, let's get to the big three. Number three. The extraordinary success of this mission. Was due to the selfless courage of the United States military and our diplomats.

So, for all this talk of chaos, I just didn't see it. It's a logistical success, but a strategic. W Is this an embarrassment? Believe it or not, it's been four years, four years since the Afghanistan exit disaster. What have we learned as this president looks to solve our newest challenges with places like Ukraine, Russia, and now North Korea?

We'll talk about it. Number two. We wouldn't wake up every day to a bunch of shit on TV and a bunch of nonsense. Not a man-child crying about whatever's wrong with him. May his fat ankles find something today.

What idiots, Governor Tim Waltz, what an embarrassment he is. Dems regroup and reinvigorate. Their identity politics and ridiculous political correctness. The only thing new is the profanity. Number one.

And they say we don't need him. Freedom, freedom. He's a dictator. He's a dictator. A lot of people are saying maybe we like a dictator.

I don't like a dictator. And then you send in troops instead of being praised. They're saying you're trying to take over the Republic. Fighting crime or allowing crime. You make the choice.

America has a president and President Trump who makes law and order a priority and getting results. While them see no evil, see no crime, and only see Blue Cities. and those blue cities have tremendous needs. One of the big focuses of the President over the last week or two has been Ukraine and Russia, trying to get them to the table to try to bring an end to this bloodbath. Ambassador Kurt Vocherl knows all about it, was there commentating after Alaska and then saw the benefits of everybody getting together in the Oval Office and then watched Sergei Lavrov walk back any type of progress, in my view, that was made.

Ambassador Volcker, welcome back. Where are we at with this process, do you think? Brian, thanks so much. Look, I think President Trump deserves credit for making this the number one international issue on everybody's agenda right now. You know, he can summon the Secretary General of NATO, the head of the European Union, Chancellor of Germany, Prime Minister of Britain, President of France, all of them coming to the White House to meet with him.

This is on the top of everyone's agenda. That's a very good thing. But we have to face the reality: Putin has not given the President a single thing. He has not backed off at all. He maintains his maximalist demands, not only keeping all the territory he seized by force in Ukraine, but even demanding that the Ukrainians give him more territory voluntarily, which, of course, they're not going to do.

And he's rejected calls for a ceasefire. He has distanced himself from any formal peace agreement. He has rejected President Trump's request for a trilateral meeting with him and Zelensky. He's rejected a bilateral with Zelensky.

So he is just His nose at us, really. And I think that the only thing that gets to Putin is force and pressure. And we've got to put on more pressure, particularly economically, with the secondary sanctions, the secondary tariffs. And he's got to see that. Mm-hmm.

Arms and ammunition, paid for, of course, by Europeans now, will continue to flow. Right. So do you believe that Lavrov speaks for Putin? I think Lavrov is a is a mouthpiece for the Russian regime. I don't think he has any decision making power.

I don't think he can influence Putin. But I think he goes out and says things that Putin wants him to say. That's key. That that's and so I want you to hear this, cut 28. Putin is ready to meet with Zelensky.

When The agenda. Would be ragged. For for a summit. And this agenda is not ready at all.

So he says the agenda is not ready. We haven't done enough. Right. To actually bring that to the table.

So, what does he mean by that? I mean, wouldn't it be the next step? Yeah. They didn't really do much getting ready for Alaska. They wanted to feel each other out.

That's right. No, he jumped on a plane and flew to Alaska. But this is Lavrov saying that Russia is going to set the conditions, and we're going to demand that we get all our concessions up front from the Ukrainians. We want us to give it, they want us to. Take territory.

They want to have Ukraine withdraw. They want Ukraine to be neutral, no military forces there. And then if they get all of that, then maybe they'll have a meeting. Just a complete rejection of what President Trump is really trying to do.

So, I mean, it's just hard to believe that you could lose over a million men with casualties, 100,000 deaths minimum, 20,000 a month, and not feel an urgency to bring the killing to an end or bring the war to an end. I think there's a fear that when the war ends, his entire industry is military. How does he make the conversion? I understand in Alaska, they talked about how to open up their economy more, how to stand it up quickly. We would have done a lot to help them make that transition, even if it got our allies upset.

Yeah, no, that's right. President Trump has been looking to end the war and flip to getting back to business, getting back to economic development, making money for everybody. And that is not what President Bush. Putin is interested in. President Putin wants to see himself in portraits alongside Catherine the Great and Peter the Great, someone who has conquered territory for Russia.

He is rebuilding the Russian Empire, and it's that historical legacy that's motivating him. And the only way to stop somebody like that. You've got to use force. You've got to make it clear to them that he's risking his own regime if he pursues that goal. And right now I know Ukraine is targeting energy sectors in Russia, and hopefully they'll get permission, if I'm to believe the Wall Street Journal they don't have it now, to use the attack'ems in Russia.

Is it true that there's a catastrotic shortage of gasoline in parts of Russia due to these missile strikes? Yeah, they've lost over 15% of their refining capacity. They're rationing gasoline in Crimea and in Siberia. And you're absolutely right. It is critical that Ukraine be able to take out the logistical supplies and support that are helping Russia's forces in Ukraine.

Fuel and refinement of gasoline products is a big part of that, not only for the overall economy, but also for the military. Ammunition depots, roads, bridges, railroads, everything, and they need the long-range systems to do that. The Biden administration, you'll remember, refused to let the Ukrainians fire American-made weapons into Russia, even if it was a short distance. We had a big ban on that. And then in the final days, they lifted that because they knew it was a mistake.

Well, President Trump has now gone back to that ban again, or at least his Pentagon has. I saw President Trump's tweet where he was saying that the party being attacked has to be able to fight back. And he's absolutely right about that. But then he's got to get the Pentagon in line. He does.

I want to know if they are in line too, because when that comes to light, he's corrected things. I hope they're on the same page because I know Elletbridge Colby was not into this fight when he was a commentator on television. He thought we should have been focused on China.

Well, in the perfect world, we would be. But you can't avoid what we're doing in Europe. I don't know why they don't see the connection. And maybe his agenda. Trump's Trump's agenda, I hope not, and I hope the President could correct that immediately.

So the Russians want all of the Dunes region, but if they give up the Dunes region, especially areas in that fortress belt that they will not win, even if they fight for two more years, it's been so fortified, if they give that up, then we're going to have to defend a 2,000-mile border. We can't do that. And they're going to have a straight road right to Kharkiv and then to Kyiv.

So that's something that can't be given away. Do you agree, Ambassador? Totally agree with that. You got the military logistics and the high ground and so forth exactly right. And in addition to that, Putin cannot be trusted at his word.

He has invaded Ukraine in 2014. He had a ceasefire. He signed this Budapest Memorandum in 95 saying he respected Ukraine's borders. He tore that up. He invaded Georgia in 2008.

He invaded Ukraine again in 22. There is no reason to believe that if he says, okay, I'll just take this part of Donbas and then I'll be done, that he will be done. In fact, it's going to whet his appetite for the next thing.

So there were three deals that came up in Alaska, according to reports in Reuters, that the U.S. offered Russia. It says Ukraine, they said to encourage the Kremlin to agree to a peace deal. The officials discussed the possibility of Exxon re-entering their oil and gas project. Three of the sources said they also raised the prospect of Russia purchasing U.S.

equipment for its LNG projects, such as the Arctic LNG, which is under Western sanctions, in the past.

So they're looking to work and get their energy sectors stood up. And he brought hundreds of business people with him. Yeah. I mean, that's a big commitment to make if you don't really want to do anything. Yeah, it's a big offer.

It is certainly signaling to Putin, we're prepared to just reset, just like Obama. We're going to reset and get back to doing business if you end this war. But I mean Russians brought business people with them too. Yes, yes. And I'm frankly puzzled by that because I'm in favor of what President Trump is actually doing, which is making America the dominant energy power in the world.

Why would we want to help Russia get its energy back on stream? Yes, I mean Right now, those sanctions hit India. It's hurt our relations with India. Are you worried about that? Yeah, I am, because I think India is the more strategic partner for the U.S.

in Asia and South Asia. They're the largest democracy in the world. They are also an adversary with China. They have tremendous upward potential. China is our main adversary in Asia, and they've kind of peaked, at least in terms of their population.

Their GDP is going to grow more slowly, but they are building up their military capabilities. I think we would want India on our side. Yeah, hopefully that that that could be that could be fixed.

So we have Brazil, Turkey. And China. Those are the ones buying most of the Russian oil and gas. What would you do next?

Well, I would go with secondary sanctions instead of secondary tariffs. Sanctions are going after the businesses, the entities, the banks, the ports, the vessels, the refiners, any business that's actually engaged in the trade with Russia. If you do tariffs, you're hitting a whole country. They may not listen to the tariffs. They may pay the tariffs or have those tariffs stay in effect and retaliate with tariffs against American goods.

You don't know it's going to get the effect, and it's too broad a brush. But if you go after the businesses and you take away their access to international financial markets and banking, that is vital to those businesses and entities. That's what we should be going after. Because the key goal here is to get as little money as possible flowing into the Kremlin's budgets so that they actually have to start shutting down the war.

So I think they're going to start planning what an international force in Ukraine would look like. Would you move ahead if you were NATO? I wouldn't do it until there's a ceasefire. And this is something that I think President Trump has a right. But you can start planning now.

Yes, we're planning for sure. And the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs was in Europe last week doing exactly that, meeting with his counterparts, saying, okay, if we're going to have a European reassurance force, what's the mission? How does it function in Ukraine? What kind of backup does it need? What would America's role be in helping back it up?

And that would be, in my view, and I think this is where they're headed: the Ukrainians have to be trained and equipped and built up into a formidable army so that Putin will not attack again. To do that, they need European and American help for training, equipping, air defense, and air support in extremities, air support as a backup. I think that's where this is heading. Once there's a ceasefire, that should deploy as quickly as possible. When there's not a ceasefire, we do run the risk of NATO forces and Russian forces engaging directly, and that can get out of hand.

We don't want that, so we do want to press for a ceasefire as quickly as possible, get the deterrence force in place, and then hopefully we can go back to a tense standoff with Russia rather than a hot war. And lastly, Ambassador, for those people out there who said, well, NATO brought On themselves by surrounding Russia. I have a view of that, but I want to hear the former ambassador to NATO talk about what exactly NATO does. Yeah, no, this is very important, Brian. It's good you bring this up.

NATO is a collection of independent, sovereign democracies who want to. Fight together, they want to band together to defend themselves.

So, if one of them is attacked, we all respond, and that deters attacks against NATO. And what happened when the Soviet Union came apart is all these countries that they had subjugated. They had occupied the Baltic states for 40 years. They had occupied Eastern Germany for 40 years. They had installed puppet governments, communist governments in Poland, Hungary, and Czechoslovakia.

Once they were free from the Russian yoke, these countries wanted to make sure they never got invaded and occupied again.

So they wanted to join NATO so that Russia would not attack. And guess what? It works. In all of that time, since the fall of the Soviet Union, not one of those countries that joined NATO has been attacked by Russia. Indeed, the only countries that Russia has attacked are the countries that are not in NATO, Georgia and Ukraine.

And the Ukrainians are fighting back, saying, no, no, we're not going under Russian subjugation again. We're going to defend our freedom. Absolutely. So people say they were surrounded by what? By people that just don't want to be invaded.

Exactly. And look at a map. Everyone who hears that line, we're surrounded. Look at a map. All of NATO is to the west of Russia.

And Russia extends 11 time zones eastward. It's got borders with Kazakhstan, with Central Asia, with China. It borders the Pacific Ocean there. They are not surrounded, and they know it. They're also 28 times the size of Ukraine geographically in terms of territory.

What do they need? to be 29 times the size for. Ambassador, it was great to talk to you. Ambassador Kurt Volcker, good conversation, and hopefully we'll get a resolve soon. Ambassador Kurt Volcker, thanks.

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Uh The DNC acknowledges and honors the Dakota Oyate. The Dakota people, who are the original stewards of the lands and waters of Minneapolis. As Democrats, I ask of every one of you to not allow land acknowledgments like these to simply be the checking of a box. Be curious. Ask questions.

So that is the, I guess, a member of the tribe that once controlled 500 years ago that region. And once again, the political correctness at the DNC that the big meeting in Minneapolis to regain momentum and get focus because their country, they're. Uh they're party's being overrun by socialists. That's where all the momentum is. Kamala Harris has no street cred.

She's buried in debt. We just found out that there's been about one hundred fundraising letters for the DNC without telling them it's going to pay off Kamala Harris's debt for a one hundred and nine day failed campaign that spent over a billion dollars.

So they show up in Minneapolis and they're still doing the political correctness. They're still doing, oh, let's hear from the local Indian tribe. Hey, let's go out there and point out the first female black mayor of a major city. Why not just be a mayor? Why not just tell me what Minneapolis' problems are?

How about a huge problem with the socialists maybe being the next mayor there? Even worse than the ridiculous governor, the comical. Farcical Governor, Governor Tim Waltz. But they're out there and They're just uh Disrespectful of the president in a way I didn't think was possible from Attorney General Ellison on down. Back in a moment.

If you're interested in it, Brian's talking about it. You're with Brian Kilmead. Use JD Vance and just kick the shit out of him every chance you get. And you tell them why bullying's wrong. But when it's adult like Donald Trump, you bully the Out of him back.

Respectfully, he's making up some s. Don't tell me you give a s about the middle class when all you're doing is on the middle class. Listen, Donald Trump is a piece of shit.

Okay, we know that. Yes, yes. He is. He is. So, some of the most classless comments.

Now, Trump could be crude, not like that. And then, when you become president, you should have a little bit of decorum. Once in a while, you have a Joe Wilson scream out at a. Uh, State of the Union address, and that stands out. But when you have Tim Waltz say his ankles are so the fat ankles, uh, this red hat makes me sick.

Uh attorney general, I'm going to sue that dude 44 times. That dude, that dude is president, you idiot. And on top of that, when you look at the DNC, they have to get themselves an agenda. Their agenda remains obsessed with Trump. It's crazy.

Can anyone be mature enough to walk into that room and say, all right. We all don't like Trump, but he's gone in four years, and in two years we got to get back at least one chamber. And the Senate is going to be tough. It's going to be the House. Here's how we make up the five seats.

And is it going to be cursing at Trump? You've been doing that since 2015. Where has it gotten you? Even the election he lost, he got more votes than any Republican in history. And then he comes back and just won every battleground straight two thousand counties to your five hundred and fifty, even though the and the popular vote.

So you're just wrong. If you're going to come out and say he's unpopular, this another theme I think is worthy pointing out because it's totally inaccurate. Governor Newsom Uh Governor Waltz. Cynoclobature Elizabeth Warren, They're saying the same thing. His president's very unpopular.

He's trying to distract from his failed policies. I don't know what's failed. The Iranian bombing, the closer he's getting to the shuttle diplomacy with. Ukraine What's bad, the big beautiful bill that he passed? What's bad, all the trade deals that he's cut?

What's bad, the building up of our military again, the securing our border.

So even if that's not your agenda, his agenda, he's just knocking off things on this list every day, bringing law and order to a major city like Washington DC and doing the same thing. As soon as there was an uprising in Los Angeles, he immediately sent troops in there.

So the bashing of Trump, you can do whatever you want. And the ES But the bastion of Trump's not going to get you anywhere. That's the problem. I mean, listen to this, Tim Waltz, cut 19. And I am proud of this state like so many others.

And I will have to tell you: the privilege of my lifetime was to stand beside someone we know. Was the most qualified and would have been a fantastic president in a President Harris. And look. We wouldn't wake up every day to a bunch of shit on TV and a bunch of nonsense. We would wake up to an adult with compassion and dignity and vision and leadership doing the work.

Not a man-child crying about whatever's wrong with him. May his fat ankles find something today. Petty as hell.

So, I mean, Ezra Klein wrote a book, and he just said basically, and we watched Fareed Saqqari go off and just say, every majority, he told Larry Summers flat out, every major city has fallen apart and they're democratically run. Crime is a big deal. The infrastructure is collapsing, and those are the democratic programs. The non-enforcement of crimes has hurt the quality of life of people. The not enforcing the broken windows has not worked, and they have not reversed course.

The villainizing of cops.

So, at one point, just say an agenda and just pick your spots. There's a group of 150 lawmakers. That are talking about forming a group, Tom Swazi locally, and Laura Gillen locally in New York. Another one, another congressman over in Texas, and they just said, Can we just admit that we needed the border sealed, that the border had collapsed? Can we admit there are certain things that are going well and then pick the things that we don't think are going well rather than everything?

One of the people exasperated by this is Harold Ford. The other one is Dan Torrentine. He was on Laura Ingram last night, a Democratic strategist, CUD 22. It's the definition of insanity. You just keep doing the same thing over and over again.

And as a Democrat, it's maddening that we're still not serious. Like you said, we haven't lost four and a half million voters, nor is our brand at a historic low because we don't fight hard enough. It's because we remain completely culturally disconnected and we have absolutely no agenda. You said earlier in your monologue, Trump's trying to solve problems. We always offer the three P's: the personal attacks, which you just heard, he's a dictator and authoritative.

We argue process. Oh, he shouldn't do this. He's violating customs and norms. Or it's the press, right? It's their job to do it.

And then on the cultural issues, we literally have think tanks putting memos out that, you know, these are the words you're not supposed to say. You add it all up, and we're not in good shape. Uh that is Dan Turrentine. He's Just like I just said, I mean, if you want to see a Democrat win, this is not the way to do it. Zura and Mamdani rising up out of nowhere, winning the mayor's race, when the mayor is going to win in Minneapolis, one is going to win in Seattle, has the money it's coming from the outside, by the way, has the money and has the youth And that's why they're encouraged, but they shouldn't be encouraged big time.

The one that's got some momentum is Governor Newsom. Why? He's mimicking Trump.

So they go, oh, he's a tough guy. He's coming at Trump. But what has he done well? I mean, he brought homelessness to new heights, taxes through the roof, gas prices through the roof, more people leaving this beautiful state of California than anytime else. Law and orders run wild, steal up to $1,000, don't pay a price.

I mean, where are the good deals? For the people of California. Where's the attraction? He's losing Hollywood, had no program to keep it there. Here's Governor Ron DeSantis last night.

He's just pointing out, and look, I think Ron DeSantis is running for president. COP23. We have talked about Florida being number one on so many categories: economy, new business, higher education. And he says California is number one. But, Sean, you know, to be bipartisan, you know, I do have to acknowledge under Gavin Newsome's leadership, you know, California, they are number one in a lot of things.

They're number one in homelessness. They're number one in public defecation. They're number one in tent cities on sidewalks and in public places. Yes, they're number one for highest income tax in the country. They're number one for highest sales tax, number one for highest gas tax, and they have the highest electricity rates in the continental United States.

So they are number one in a lot of things, just not the things you'd want to be number one in. Exactly, and that's his track record. Flip the baseball card over. Morai uh Morty, you're in New Jersey. Hey, Morty.

Hey, Brian. I I just wanted to shine on some positive news in my opinion. You just mentioned how uh Mom Donnie has like the younger crowd. And in my opinion, from what I've seen from my friends and people that I've talked to, I'm I'm in my mid twenties. It's it's more popular and more common now for People to be supporting conservative policies.

And they don't like Mohamdani, to be honest. And they sort of gravitate towards Trump because he's the You know, he's that guy, if if um if I could put it plainly. Um And that's really it. I wanted to say that. And also, I just saw your new Bruny's Mountain Dog puppy Bear.

Uh, it was so funny. I actually had a Bernie's mountain dog myself, Bear. Uh, he passed away, unfortunately. We have Yogi, Bear. Uh, right now we have Yogi and Harley, but yeah, we're a Bernie's Mountain Dog family, so if you ever need a You don't need anybody to watch over him while you're out and about.

You know, we're here. All right, Morty. I don't know if I get him to New Jersey to go out, but that's a great offer.

So you liked your Bernie's Mountain Dog, though, right? Oh, yeah, you're you're in for all all they want is love and attention and that's it. I mean, you you mentioned like he uh it was like he had a tranquilizer and he's like out and about and on the floor. That's that's totally normal. They just They just like do I call it frog legs.

Like they they stick their legs out and they you know leap on the floor. Yeah, so funny. We got a great Pyrenees and they're beginning to get along, Morty. Thanks for the advice. Mark in St.

Pete's St. Pete Beach in Florida. Hey, Mark. Hey. Brian.

I'm just curious if during this Democrat apology therapy session they're having. If they want to apologize, the precursors to the Democrat Party, the political leaders of the southern colonies want to apologize to the founding fathers. For forcing them to compromise on slavery. or if they'd like to apologize for instigating the Civil War to protect slavery or the Indians want to p apologize. to the Indians that they won the land from in combat.

Exactly. It's just unbelievable. But I think this is what gives me hope, Mark. From the Smithsonian on down, we're done with this political correctness. The fact that they said, I want to introduce the first black female mayor of a major city.

Can we just tell me what her name is? What has she done? We're tired of the labels. I don't want the first lesbian. Woman of color to be my press secretary.

I just want a great press secretary. That's all I want. You know, the president's got a secretary of treasury who's gay. He never brings it up because it doesn't matter. Do you know Rick Grinnell is chief aide and back does everything from hostage rescues to what he's doing in South, Central, and South America?

Do you know Rick Connell is gay? Does anybody care? No, it doesn't matter. He does a good job. That's all that matters.

That's it. And they're still doing it. And to see this conference go off, and then they have a woman who seems like a fine woman come out and tell everyone. About the land. I mean, who cares where the land came from?

That was 500 years ago. You guys have an emergency. You have to come up with an agenda that helps American people. And it's not being tough with Trump and mimicking his truth social posts. I didn't think.

But maybe I'm wrong. We're gonna take a short time out and come back. On the other side of my Stuart Varney hit, I always have some time.

So, Gary, Todd, and Lance, I'll be getting to you three before the top of the hour. You're listening to the Brian Kill Me Show.

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Now, the Brian Kilmead Show joins Fox Business's Varney and Company with Stuart Varney live on your radio and on Fox Business. Here's Brian Kilmead. Hey, welcome back, everyone. Stuart Varney is going to have me up in a few minutes, and you'll get to see on FBN.

So, scramble to FBN. Also, I should tell you, we're doing a lot of our interviews now on Zoom, so you can watch on the app. You click on watch and page over to you get Fox News Radio, but so much of this is visual now, so you'll always get it. But now it's time to hop on FBN, by the way, that trounces CNBC on a regular basis, especially this show.

So we'll be with that in shortly. And then on the other end, I'll be able to get to some calls because we usually end up a couple of minutes early. Uh because this also is something else worthy bringing up. Is Afghanistan? Minnesota Governor Tim Walsh imagining what it would be like if Kamala Harris was president.

You got to watch this. I will have to tell you the privilege of my lifetime was to stand beside someone we know. Was the most qualified and would have been a fantastic president in a President Harris. And look. We wouldn't wake up every day to a bunch of On T V and a bunch of nonsense.

We would wake up to an adult with compassion and dignity and vision and leadership doing the work. not a man child crying about whatever's wrong with him. You know, Brian. That's extraordinary stuff. It's the party just can't get away from.

I guess it's basically Trump hatred. They can't get away from it, can they? You know, China's favorite son, Tim Waltz, governor of Minneapolis, Minnesota, where he spent his honeymoon with high school students. We should explain that at one point. But he's the most irrelevant politician who doesn't realize it.

He came out there. Did anyone pre-think their message? You know, there's been some deep thinkers and some podcasts that talk about the Democrats just come up with an idea. If you get power, what will you do? And sooner or later, Donald Trump won't be around.

But instead, I have. Three pages of anti-Trump screeds from that Minneapolis, from that Minneapolis conference. And A.G. Ellison coming out, I sued that dude 44 times. Really?

Is that the type of class you want to bring to Washington? Sued that dude 44 times, who happens to be the president of the United States? And what is he looking to do? I don't know. Seal the border.

Not too. That's very popular. What's he looking to do? Cut trade deals and bring more revenue in? It seems pretty popular.

Growth was last week or 3%. You could find a way to understand that law and order has been returned to our nation's capital and not be on the other side of that. And what I keep hearing Gavin Newsom and others say, the president's failures, I don't know. If you watch the president, if you see his agenda, even if you didn't vote for him, failure is not what we're seeing right now. He's knocking off almost everything on his list and he's doing it in front of the cameras.

Today he's going to have in 15 minutes, he's going to have another cabinet meeting for us. And look at that crime rate drop in DC once the National Guard was there. Here's another one: one of the speakers at the DNC summer meeting, you were just talking about it. Insha Roffen. She claims most Americans don't care about migrant crime.

Watch this. Don't take the bait in talking about migrant crime or carjackings or the things that actually don't matter to that many Americans. And then go to the policy proposals that. We think work. Policy proposals would those be, for heaven's sake.

Brian, migrant crime doesn't matter to most Americans. Where on earth does that come from?

Well, it comes from idiocy and being in a bubble where you think that everybody I talk to agrees with me. When you are, if you were driving in a minivan down a highway in Florida and, excuse me, in California, and all of a sudden someone makes a three-point turn and kills you, or your family member, you care about that illegal immigrant behind the wheel. If you are Lake and Riley, you care about an illegal immigrant. If you have watched in New York City as they try to beat up cops and take over every hotels, you care about illegal immigration. And then suddenly the border's sealed and we're rounding up people here illegally.

And what they take from this is nobody cares. I think you lost every battleground state, 2,000-plus counties to 500 counties. Can you learn anything about what the American people want? I think there's a group of Democrats, Tom Swazi on Long Island, Lauren Gillen of New York, and some others over in Utah and Texas are forming a middle group that are going to say we needed the border sealed and we made a mistake. That's what I think is their way forward.

Pick out the things that define you and then notice things that are working for the President, who oftentimes, as you know, Stuart, gets conservatives upset because he's very practical, not political.

So there are things that you can work on. They're just choosing to be mad. But that group in the middle, small as it is, they're swamped by the left-wingers who are really taking over the party. Last twenty seconds to you, Brian. Yeah, Rahm Emanuel is trying to run in the middle, but he did a terrible job as mayor.

We should not forget that. Gavin Newsom's got momentum, but his job as a governor is absolutely horrendous. He's destroying that state, even though he thinks by winning, he means doing his best imitation of Donald Trump.

So it is easy to get behind the socialists, but if you think that that's going to sell to most of America, you're dreaming, and I think Democrats know that. Dream on. Kilmead, you're all right. Thanks so much, Brian. See you.

Thank you. Let's go out to Gary in Daytona. Hey, Gary. Hey, come on. morning Brian.

Hey, I'm in the automotive business and uh With I'm really happy what uh uh Governor DeSantis is doing with the uh with the commercial vehicles at the checkpoints. And I'm hoping a lot of the other states do And I've seen the frustration, and I'd heard you mention it before, on how many illegals and with bad licenses are on the road. I think Secretary Duffy, even though he has a lot on his plate, I think the answer is from the insurance and the bonding companies. There's not a vehicle, a big rig on the road without a DOT sticker or insurance. and a lot of bonding and leasing agreements.

I think the insurance companies, once they start getting sued by some of the top law firms, The insurance companies are going to have to demand. I know in my business, my liability company, commercial liability, they can look at all my drivers. and they have their driver history.

So I just think a start might be with Secretary Duffy. And when some of these companies are sued. I think so too. And I also think that I was enlightened by one of my callers yesterday who told me that they're short of truck drivers.

So they were enticing people from other countries to come here, get your commercial license, and drive.

Now, some of these guys just came illegally. That's not what they were looking for. But that's scary to me. You know, you might be a great driver, but I can't read English. You can't drive.

That's it. So, did they bend the rules to get these people on the road after the pandemic? Are there more out there, at least in Florida? Are they looking out for their people? You listen to the Brian Kilmeat show.

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Listen and follow the podcast five days a week at FoxnewsPodcasts.com or wherever you download your favorite podcasts. From high atop Fox News headquarters in New York City, always seeking solutions, never sowing division. It's Brian Kilmead. Hi everyone, welcome to the latest moments of the Brian Kill Me Show. We have a lot going on today.

This hour we are joined by a couple of people, but Lieutenant Colonel Alex Pelbath. He's a retired U.S. Air Force Lieutenant Colonel who commanded the final American evacuation fights out of Afghanistan. He's had a great two-decade military career, now running for Congress in South Carolina. And we're going to get to him shortly, but let's get to the big three.

Number three. The extraordinary success of this mission. Was due to the selfless courage of the United States military and our diplomats.

So for all this talk of chaos, I just didn't see it. It's a logistical success, but a strategic. Value. Incredible, right? Four years since the Afghanistan disaster.

What have we learned as the president looks to solve our newest challenges? Places like North Korea, Ukraine, Russia, and there's always Iran. Number two. We wouldn't wake up every day to a bunch of shit on TV and a bunch of nonsense. Not a man-child crying about whatever's wrong with him.

May his fat ankles find something today. Real classy, that is Governor Tim Walsh. Thank goodness he's not vice president. Tim's regroup and reinvigorate their identity politics and ridiculous political correctness. The only thing new is the profanity.

Number one. And they say, we don't need him. Freedom, freedom. He's a dictator. He's a dictator.

A lot of people are saying maybe we like a dictator. I don't like a dictator. And then you send in troops instead of being praised. They're saying you're trying to take over the Republic. Unbelievable, right?

President Trump's speaking out, and he'll be speaking this hour on his. Latest cabinet meeting, fighting crime or allowing crime. You make the choice, America, as President Trump makes law and order a priority and is getting results. While Dem see no evil and no problem, they recognize no gains, right? Blue City has got a lot of needs.

They just don't seem to be addressing it. Colonel, welcome back. It's great to talk to you yesterday, meet you in person. Thank you, sir. Good to be back.

So, what's going on? First off, let's talk about Afghanistan. You heard Admiral Kirby as press secretary. You probably didn't at the time, but maybe since. Every time he got a question from us or from the press, This was a big success.

Everybody knows we had to leave Afghanistan, and we should focus on how we got everybody out. You did do a great job getting everyone out, but is that the story? Absolutely not. I think most of us realize, just from a military operation perspective, that there absolutely was a better way to do it. And number one on that was is Don't force an arbitrary end date of August 31st.

We saw what was happening in the country at the time. Hey, hey, change the date, provide the military the resources they need, the military resources we need to execute an operation. And uh and things would have gone, I think, very differently. I'd just like to go over t that moment when you were flying out. Did you know you were the last flight?

Yeah, absolutely. We did. We had planned for it. It was a tremendous amount of planning went into that. I remember five C-17s in a formation, right?

We flew in there in the middle of the night, no lights on, using only night vision goggles. We had about 30 aircraft overhead in sort of support roll. Can you tell me how hard that is? And well, the planning was hold on the flight in. The actual flight in.

Yeah, yeah, it is. It's difficult. We train very well for it. Our folks, our pilots, all five of those aircraft in there were tight. That formation was perfect.

Those pilots are outstanding. This is the C-17 Special Operations Team. They are the best out there. Difficult, yes, but man, this is what we trained for. That was our Super Bowl that night.

So, you knew this is going to be it. I'm going to get all the I'm going to get everybody, all our military out of there. How many were on your plane? Yeah, I don't even remember how how many were coming out. Yeah, no, not hundreds.

It was of those five jets that came out, it was a lot of sort of specialized equipment, some unique Air Force military assets, and then, of course, General Donahue. Was the last one to walk on. And who I had a chance to go with when it was Fort Liberty, Fort Bragg, Fort Liberty, back to Fort Prague. But yeah, he was as impressive as it gets. I think that was his silhouette leaving that people always see.

How much did we leave behind? A ton, obviously a ton. You know, I I mentioned this yesterday on the show, but One of the memories I have looking back, unfortunately, is a year later. Us mourning today, August 26th, the day that we lost 13 Americans. And on the same day as the Taliban throwing a parade, driving all of our equipment that we left behind, all of those Humvees in that parade.

I hate having that memory locked in my brain. Especially because you won every battle against them, right? Absolutely. You kick their ass from the day you walked in, the country fell, and they were able to infiltrate their way back. Oh, that's right.

And you know, there was a moment. That was really frustrating for me.

Okay. And it was. That things weren't going well at this point. It's like the middle of the evacuation, and we have this arbitrary end date of August 31st. We don't know if we're going to make it.

And I happen to see the Taliban commander come on TV. And He gives the United States of America an ultimatum. And he says, August 31st is a line in the sand, America will be gone by August 31st. And so we saw that. We're watching what's happening.

We pay attention, even though we're sort of in the fight. And the reaction amongst some of the pilots was like, man, we better. We better see the president on TV tomorrow. Reminding the Taliban of who they are and who we are. Once we did see the president on TV the next day.

And Joe Biden went on TV. And instead of refuting The Taliban. He bowed to them and he doubled down. He said, Yes, I we agree. We will be gone by August 31st.

And so, what we knew in that moment, that told us really two things. One, you know, our president doesn't have our backs. And two things are going to get. Harder. before they get easier.

And Two days later was the Abigail bombing. And people will focus on the 13, they should, but there's a lot of people seriously wounded. Absolutely. 37, I think. Absolutely.

And, I mean, 200. Innocent Afghans. Right. We're counting as a million. tragic day and Yeah.

It Looking back on it was an inevitable inevitability that this was going to happen, you know, and and I remember where I was standing. I was in I was in we were getting ready to go fly. And uh and I was in the Joint Operations Center, we call it, you know, all the all the big screens and everything. Where is it? This is at our at our at our headquarters where we're operating out of uh in the Middle East and it and it's Literally just about to go fly, about thirty minutes from takeoff probably.

And I'm in there and the bombing goes off. I remember. for the moment. the feeling in the pit of my stomach watching. The smoke rise.

and what that felt, and the silence in the room in the command center. of all of us just feeling devastated. And then waiting. to find out how bad it was. Um Hughes President Trump yesterday cut twenty-four.

The Taliban has runs a tough operation at in Afghanistan. I think it was the most embarrassing day in the history of our country. That was by I was leaving, and we would have left through strength, tremendous strength. We would have had tremendous, we would have kept Bagram, which is the air base. one of the largest runways in the world, one of the most powerful.

You can land anything on it. many many feet thick You don't build them that way anymore. You can't. But uh we left it. They left it and he went on the other.

I think the Russians built it, didn't they? Long history of Baghram. Long history.

So if we kept Bagram, it would have been. And I think personally, if you just explained to the American people, there was no clamor to get out of Afghanistan, sadly. You guys were paying the price for it, but we weren't getting, I wasn't even getting regular news on Afghanistan. I had to go search for it. But if you just explain to the American people, put out a map.

And said, in this area, we got Iran, we got Russia, we have China, we have Pakistan. It's in our interest to win the war on terror to have a looking glass here. We've worked hard to have great contacts in the region, fantastic bases in the region, and it might be in our interest to keep this for a while. And this is the plan we have. And our NATO allies, also, I know we're doing main fighting, but they weren't pushing to get out.

They had 35,000 on the ground there. They could have maybe taken a little bit more of the freight. These are some of the options that would have been available. But all they said is we got to end it, we got to end it. And I always thought to myself, I wasn't comfortable with the way President Trump was doing it.

I wasn't comfortable with Ambassador Khalazad, the deal he was cutting with the Taliban. I don't know what he was doing in the meantime.

So Certainly, there were a lot of options. Yeah, you nailed it. It was at the time in that final year, 2020, 2020. I don't think we lost a single. Right.

Troop to combat while we were out there.

So you're not wrong, but you remember when President Trump ordered, I mean, this is this and to his comments just now. He's absolutely right. I mean, he might as well have been there with us because he just said the things that we actually all of us felt on the ground there. This, the President Trump's peace-through strength. Mandate this initiative is going on.

We're already seeing, first of all, the effects of it. We are the safest. America's ever been right right now. Yeah. And when President Trump ordered, it was called an orderly withdrawal.

This wasn't like an evacuation. What was supposed to be an orderly withdrawal? And if it started going sideways, he would have stopped it. That's exactly right. Or, and/or bring in more troops, whatever it takes to get it done.

And there's a fantastic story. About when President Trump ordered the orderly withdrawal and he met with Taliban leadership. And he slid across a satellite picture, slid across the table to the Taliban commander, satellite imagery of this guy's house. And President Trump said. Hey, this is what we intend to do, and if you get in our way.

Our response will start with you. We know where you live. Our response will start with you. I mean, that's peace, your strength, right there. Like, that is what keeps the enemy at bay, keeps our America safe, and then keeps our forward troops safe.

That was completely abandoned. President Joe Biden. by coming in and and turning it into an evacuation. And Karzai took our money, our helicopter, went and we haven't seen him since. No, that's right.

I I I actually knew that that was the day that I was going to go in was uh I woke up in the morning and I saw that Karzai had left the country and abandoned the country and and we essentially knew, okay, it's on. Right. and how many people are left behind.

So we'll see. Here is here's them taking here is Kirby, Millie and Lloyd Austin and McKenzie, Cut twenty seven. They talk about this mission, Cut twenty seven. Extraordinary success of this mission. was due to the incredible skill bravely And selfless courage of the United States military and our diplomats.

and intelligence professionals.

So for all this talk of chaos, I just didn't see it. Not for my purchase. It was a logistical success, but a strategic. Failure. Was it perfect?

Of course not. I recommended that we maintain 2,500 troops in Afghanistan.

So I want to put you in this.

So Mackenzie has said that consistently, and Millia said that. He said, before they did this, I said we should have left troops. He goes, No, I don't want to. Then we got to leave. Milley, with all his political cachet, because he went against Trump and he was looked at as a hero by the left, if he said, Mr.

President, if you do this, here are my four stars. I cannot preside over this. And Mackenzie, too. They go, Guy, I'm your generals, but this is going to be impossible. This will be a disaster.

They go, well, it's going to do it anyway. I want to preside over a mission. It's not up to me. No, it is up to you. If you said that, if you projected this, you could have put a stop to it right there.

In my role. No, a thousand percent. You know, the chairman of the Joint Chief Staff, Millie's position at this time. The chairman is the highest ranking person in the military. And they really have one specific job, principal military advisor to the president.

So either That was Millie's advice to the President, in which case Millie should have been fired. Or he gave different advice and the President didn't take it, in which case I think Millie should have then resigned.

So there's really so so Decide what you will on His position and his role in it, but there is no scenario where he should have stayed in that position. And I Uh I have very strong feelings about his position. I think he was more. concerned with politics. And his perception of the political stage.

I think he was a politician in a uniform, and he did us absolutely no favors in the military. Remember, President Biden sat down with George Stephanopoulos in a friendly interview, but Stephanopoulos said, you won against your generals. He goes, no general said that predicted that this would happen if we pulled out like this.

So they went and testified a couple of weeks later. No one ever said, close that circle.

Somebody's not telling the truth. Either that or his mind was totally shot already one year into the presidency. Yeah, I don't think the question is, d could anybody have predicted what happened? I think the question is, did anybody advise against? An August 31st arbitrary end date.

We're watching the Taliban just. Basically Maneuver through the whole country, right? We're closing bases all year long. And we close a base 24 hours later, it's in the hands of the Taliban. We leave it in the hands of the ANA, the Afghan National Army, and 24 hours later, it's in the hands of the Taliban.

And so we're seeing this happen.

So So where's why not pause? Why not change the approach? Why not why not Hey, let's. I mean, this is what President Trump, I'm certain, would have done. You want PC strength?

Like, there's that doesn't happen. The Taliban is not hot on our heels. Like, the Taliban influencing military, U.S. military operations is a crazy thought. And that's what was happening.

They were providing their security in Kabul. But you're done with the military. But you're not done with serving. Absolutely right.

So, what's next for me? I mean, and this is a result of this: 22 years of service. What I know about myself is now that I'm retired, I'm not done yet. I wasn't made to sit on the sidelines. I need to be in this fight.

And after watching the this terrible leadership. From the left, more concerned about politics than the state of the country. What I realized is I got to get back in the fight. I'm running for Congress in the first congressional district of South Carolina. Pellbathforcongress.com is where people can find me.

But the goal is to make sure. What we're commemorating today, what President Trump commemorated today with the families, never happens again. And that President Trump has the right leaders by his side come 2026 to continue this fight to make sure that his agenda is seen through.

So you're going to be running. Uh, in South Carolina, Nancy Nancy Mace is running for governor.

So, Lieutenant Colonel Alex Pelbath is now running for that seat.

So, you got to win to get the Republican nomination. You hope to get the president's attention, and then you want to win that seat.

So, if you can get the nomination, you got to feel you're going to win the general, right? Absolutely right.

Then, it's, you know, this is we're not a Republican stronghold. There'll still be a fight, but this is a Republican district. And I think we've seen the last couple years that the conservative voice is speaking loudly in the local country. And, Colonel, I'm sure I don't have to tell you that there's probably no Russian invasion of Afghanistan, excuse me, of Ukraine if he didn't witness that debacle in Afghanistan. Uh You're probably right.

And he saw weakness in evacuation. America no longer wants to have a role. This is the other side of PCU strength. This is why President Trump gets it. It is, we are not just.

Projecting strength at one country, we are sending a message to the world. When we act, when President Trump flies a B-2 over Putin's head, we are telling the world. We're putting the world on notice. Mm-hmm. That you are going to respect the United States of America.

Yeah, and I like personally. That people can't predict what he's going to do. That's right. Including a lot of people on his staff, and he has a staff that's not going to stab him in the back. That's right.

Well, this is the don't tell the bad guys you're planning part of things, right? This is President Trump understands leadership. He understands it at this global strategic level, take care of the country. He also gets it. You know, come.

Inviting the the families of 13 we lost today. Right, uh, four years ago today to the White House and making today a day commemoration. President Trump understands that. Like he understands how to take care of people. He's taking care of people at this low level, and he is taking care of the country at the highest level.

So that is what. That's good leadership. That's why people want to follow President Roberts. Right. And I think he would fit right in with that group and certainly are motivated to get things done.

That will be his last two years in office. Lieutenant Colonel Alex Pelbath. Best of luck as you run in South Carolina. And one more time, the number to. Pelbath4Congress.com.

Pelbath4Congress.com. All right, Alex. Just win. Ryan, thank you. You got it.

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And the other half, we're going to have Trey Gowdy in studio. He's got a brand new book out. And Trey's show is doing exceedingly well. He's right before me on. On Sunday nights at 9 p.m.

Eastern Time, we're also looking at President about to hold his seventh in-public cabinet meeting of his second term. I think this surpasses what they did for four years with Joe Biden, at which time in the last one, evidently Jill used to run the entire thing, and Joe Biden would not off. I mean, that's how pathetic this was and why. that investigation matters. Trump spoke yesterday in two separate Media moments may be three.

Both for 90 minutes. How do I know? Well, number one, one took place during the radio show, so I'm trying to read the closed caption of the breaks and during the show. And number two, the other one happened when I was doing the big money show on Fox Business, because I get there at one o'clock. And he went 20.

So he went 45 minutes with the president of South Korea by his side. At which time he takes all questions. And then he he had another press availability a little bit later when he was sitting behind his desk and we punched out the World Cup trophy.

So that's the third one. And today he says, okay, I'm going to bring everybody.

So if you are in the White House press corps, you must be in heaven. My goodness, if your assignment is the economy, you got your Treasury Secretary got to come. If you want to know about tariffs and trade deals, you got Commerce Secretary there too. You got the Secretary of Defense there. There's been recent resignations and some refocusing and maybe a new name to the Secretary of Defense.

It could be Secretary of War.

So the president's going to take most of the answer, get most of the questions, but everyone's going to be under the spotlight. Brain chummy. It's the Will Kane Show. Watch it live at noon Eastern, Monday through Thursday on FoxNews.com or on the Fox News YouTube channel. And don't miss a show.

Get the podcast five days a week at FoxnewsPodcasts.com or wherever you download your favorite podcasts. Breaking news, unique opinions. Hear it all on the Brian Kill Me Show. Can I get a pronouncer, Ainsley? I'm sorry, Ainsley Allison on my guest.

This is kind of awkward. That's right. Okay, I remember you. Trey Gowdy, the host of Sunday Night in America, the Trey Gowdy podcast, former South Carolina congressman, former federal prosecutor, and author of a brand new book, Out Today, The Color of Death. It is a novel based on a lot of your legal background and your imagination.

Congratulations, Trey. What does it feel like? I know you've been an author before. I know the book with Tim Scott that you wrote. Yes, sir.

What does it feel like to be on your own here writing fiction? Grateful. Grateful that Suzanne Scott. gave me the chance to do this. She she literally is the one who said you should do it.

It's been in my head. The book has been in my head. But writing, as you know, going from nonfiction to fiction, it's why do I know that's like that at all? You could do it because you're very talented, but I it would have stayed in my head but for Miss Scott, and it is um You know, it's a ten-year labor of love that you hope people. Enjoy and people are fascinated by crime.

If you want to know what it's like to be a homicide investigator or prosecutor, that's why I wrote the book. Right. So, give me an idea of the genesis of the case. First off, could you tell me what you was a movie that you saw? Was it a case that you studied?

Was it one you were a part of? It was one I was part of, one that I was part of, and it went unsolved for a decade. And I can still to this day tell you where I was when the sheriff called me and said, We may have a suspect.

So, this beautiful young mother is killed in her beauty salon. and we had a little bit of DNA on her stomach, but no one to match it to. And it went unsolved for ten years.

So that's kind of the spine of this novel. No other part of it is the same. The killer's not the same. The suspects aren't the same. But Brian, it was a way for me to honor a young lady named Dana Satterfield, who was the victim, and her parents, God rest their souls, but also her children who were really young when she was killed.

And so it's Look, the victim in the book is not named Dana, but the the the the beauty salon setting and beauty juxtaposed with death and And and The motivation, what would cause you to stab somebody that many times? What would cause you to strangle someone? I mean, we're fascinated by the why. They always say, for people on the outside, no, it doesn't do this for a living, when you have stab, it's usually a sign of passion, right? You know that person.

It is the most personal way to kill somebody, even more personal than strangulation, because blood has to come up on you when you stab them.

So the literally the life fluid, the life blood is on you. Strangulation would be second because it's your hands and you s you literally feel them stop breathing. Almost always with domestic Homicides are Uh which If you're a a woman, you are far more like likely to be killed by somebody who knows you and claims to love you than you are, stranger. Stranger crime is what scares us, but you're exponentially more likely to be killed by an intimate partner than you are, stranger.

So how long did you were you a prosecutor for? Almost twenty years. How much how much ugliness and Death Dave, have you seen? um enough to wreck my soul, to be honest with you. But you said you enjoyed that part of your career more than anything else.

I think I was good at it. I did not run for Congress. I ran from Uh the shadows of evil. I j we had three children under the age of 11 killed in one week. And it just wrecks your faith, Brian.

But then you were able to channel your aggre your anger and sadness towards solving it, right? We got them solved, but the one thing I could never do is bring them back. I couldn't bring those kids back. By writing this book, does this bring back all those memories? And is that a bad thing?

You know, I'm at a place because my wife wanted me to put some light in this book. There's a line in the miniseries, True Detective. I had it all wrong. The light does win in the end. And my wife was right.

The light does when.

So This book was kind of a catharsis for me because, yes, there's a lot of depravity and evil. But the light is going to win if you can just hang in there long enough. Trey Gowdy is here. His book is now out as of today, so don't blame yourself if you don't have it yet. But you'll be one of the few who doesn't.

The Color of Death. It's a novel that's out today.

So Trey, can you see this being a movie? I can if they get somebody as handsome as you to play the role of a prosecutor. You can't afford me, Trey. I probably cannot. Plus, you don't have time.

You are the business. But I also want to tell people who I know they already know this. There is no more encouraging, supportive colleague you can possibly have than Brian Kilburn. Oh, thanks for saying that. Actually, seem genuinely happy in your colleague's success, and it shows.

But I think I'm very curious. Thank you for saying that. But I think that's the culture they built here because I took me 12 years to get this job, so I also knew how great it was. But do you notice other places? Um I know some people come from the outside and come here, like Bill Hammer when he came from CNN, he was like Is this the way it is every day?

You know, because most people they want to be here no matter what your position is, and people are happy to come to work. It's an amazing culture and. you know Suzanne Scott Enable me to write this book, but Dana Perino was in my ear for a year, offering me encouragement because I kept saying, I don't think I can make the transition. It's just too hard. And so I give her a lot of credit.

You know, she's read more books than you and I probably put together, probably. She might have written more books than you and I.

So that's cheating. She might be smarter than I am, but no, everywhere you go, there is a friendly, smiling face that offers you a word of encouragement. And if there's competition, it's at least good-natured competition. Yeah, it wasn't always, but it is right now. I got to ask you: somebody who studies and lives off the Constitution did a Did it as a guide as a guideline for your cases?

How do you feel about the President having an executive order to punish people for burning the flag? I know that Justice Scalia said, as much as it bothers me, it is freedom of speech.

So you as a guy That under that is very patriotic. Do you think Trump's in the right here and Scalia was wrong? I would probably give the nod to Trump, but not for a reason that anyone else would guess. It is a close first cousin of arson.

So I would view it more of a of an arson. Can you legally start a fire? And so it's not necessarily that it lags so much. I would try to split the baby. It's not.

It's so if fire is speech, then where does it stop?

So Fire Is it arson or is it speech? And does it really depend on what you're burning? Can you burn the Koran? Can you burn the Bible? Can you burn the flag?

I would argue more the intentional setting of a fire. Um And then you, as a good smart lawyer, would say, Well, can I burn the leaves in the backyard? And then it kind of becomes where you do the burning. Are you doing it in public or are you doing it in your backyard? If you do it in your house, the libertarian in me says it's nobody's business.

By the way, thanks for giving me my follow-up question, assuming I would have had it. I did not have that, but thank you for saying that. You know what it's like to be the party of minority and be in the majority. You also know what it's like to be in the majority and have a Democratic president with Barack Obama.

So now the Democrats, no doubt about it, history is on their side to take one of the chambers back, maybe the House.

So let me ask you if this is the recipe towards writing your ship, Cut 17. I first want to take a moment to thank the chairs of the AAPI: the Black, the Disability, Hispanic. LGBTQ Native American Women's and Regional Caucuses. Oakland is in the house. I just happened to be Oakland's first black woman mayor.

Minnesota ranks the highest per capita for being a safe haven for transgender individuals in Minnesota. Right. Is that the recipe for winning back the American people? It is the recipe for being an obsolete party that has gone the route of the Whigs and the Bull Moose Party. I mean, what are they thinking?

Can you just be a mayor? I mean, if you want an example. Do you know the do you know that uh the Treasury Secretary is gay? Scott Besson, I do, because he's a South Carolinian and he's a friend. Yeah.

He was here for two years before he went. I think I found out about it. I don't even remember it. Rick Rinnell, same thing. And you have history-making figures for gender and ethnicity all up and down.

You know, Tulsi Gabbard, first CNI. Got it, right? Tim Scott. Yeah, Tim Scott. You mean former Democrats who are now Republicans or working for a Republican?

I love the fact that it doesn't matter because I want them there because of who they are, not where they're from or the color of their skin. I think he leveled the playing field. This feels like I'm going back thirty years, even though it's only Eight months. The only reason it feels that way, Brian, is because it is. They are going back.

So, I mean, think about what President Biden did to Justice Contanja Brown Jackson.

So he says, I'm going to pick a woman of color. And immediately, I think she is marginalized. How about just say, I'm going to go pick the best person? She was very, very well qualified if you are a left-leaning person. Speaker Ryan said knows her sister-in-law or something.

Yes, related to her. But you do her a disservice when you make it about racial identity. Look, I hired an African-American staff director. I did not say I'm going to go hire an African American. I just said I'm going to go hire the best.

And it happened to be Sharia Clark.

Well, how was the vice president picked? I'll tell you exactly how. I want a woman. And a woman of color, Val Demings said, I don't want to do this. And they went with Kamala Harris.

Do you think she felt like she was the best person at any point? And she proved she wasn't by the way. How could she be? She got the same number of delegates you and I got when she ran for president and you and I didn't run. Did you see today that the DNC has been sent out over 100 letters to raise money?

And do you know what that money's going to? To pay off the debt she ran up during a 109-day campaign where she raised over a billion dollars. Can you get your head around a billion dollars in a campaign and know you ended up in the red? I'm going to make him a deal. I will lose for half of that.

Give me half of that, and I will lose.

So, Trey's going to stick around for a little while longer, but it gives you an opportunity during the break to order his brand book. It's a brand new book. It's called The Color of Death. It's a novel that's out today.

Trey Gowdy, we predict this is going to be number one on the list. Don't move. Increasing your intelligence quotient. What the hell did you say? It's Brian Kilmead.

Hey, I'm Trey Gaddy, host of the Trey Gaddy Podcast. I hope you will join me every Tuesday and Thursday as we navigate life together and hopefully find ourselves a little bit better on the other side. Listen and follow now at FoxNewsPodcast.com. The fastest three hours in radio. You're with Brian Kilmead.

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Don't take the bait in talking about migrant crime or carjackings or the things that actually don't matter to that many Americans. Exactly. And that is the great advice of a vice president and consultant at the DNC meeting in Minneapolis. Don't take the bait, Trey Gowdy. Don't take the bait and talk about migrant crime or carjacking.

Is that good advice? You're a politician. You were a politician.

Well, you don't have to be a politician to know that when crime was historically high at all-time highs, it only has one place to go. And I mean, it has to go down.

So the fact that crime is going down, it is still, I mean, what's a good number? I mean, what's a good homicide rate?

So, I mean, the president's shooting for zero. Are you happy with like. A hundred?

So the the Democrat first of all Donald Trump does not need to ask permission to go into a jurisdiction and enforce federal laws. It's called dual sovereignty. The federal government has certain things that it has criminalized. We don't have to ask J.P. Pritzker's permission.

In D.C., don't you think?

Well He may have known it, but he's forgotten it because he says, We don't want you.

Well, the federal government, like carjacking, kidnapping, some murders are against federal law. That's got nothing to do with the state of Illinois.

Now, if you don't want to enforce your state laws, that's up to you, Governor. But Donald Trump does not have to ask your permission to enforce federal laws. The Constitution's really clear. It's called the Supremacy Clause.

So what do you think the message is with this 30 days of National Guard, which could be renewed, but might not be? It's costing a million dollars a day, they say, so it's expensive. That's to me the counterargument. If I'm a Democrat, I would say, listen, I want law and order, but I would. I have a better way, and tell me your better way.

But right now, their idea is he's making it up. There is no problem. But as you know, in Washington, whether they're wearing a suit and tie like you, or they're just earning a living as a restaurateur. you will feel there's a danger in Washington, downtown. Crime is one of those colorless issues.

It doesn't matter whether you are Republican or Democrat. You don't want to be carjacked, kidnapped. No right matters if you're dead. No right. But did you feel safe in DC?

No.

I was there going to the Department of Justice a month ago, and there's a lady pulling up plants out of a planter. She is pushing other pedestrians and knocking over bikes. And this is a block from the Department of Justice. You should be able to walk. I mean, but you're looking at the faces of the women who were Watching this, they were terrified.

This is a public street in the nation's capital, and you can't push a stroller without encountering a crazy woman.

So, you know, that famous story that Joe Scarborough says, I have a real liberal friend who says, Thank goodness that Trump's doing it. And then you have a lot of other people that just said there is a danger. I watched John Kasich yell at the three panelists who thought they were going to agree with him. He says, No, no, crime is a huge problem. It's a huge problem in Ohio.

It's a huge problem in Illinois. And then I watched Rachel Bain on Politico, and Jonathan Carl seemed surprised when she said this. You also just have to open your eyes. I mean, look, C D C looks a lot different than it used to. I mean, I used to live here.

I moved because my house got robbed, my car got stolen, and this was before it got bad.

So, you, Jonathan Garland, you're not, that's not why you're on this panel. You know, to say that, Brian, when you're losing a lot of people, that's a political writer. When you lose Rachel, I mean, I like Rachel, Rachel are friends, but when you lose Rachel Bade, you have lost the argument. I mean, when you lose Politico, you have lost the argument. But do you think when the DNC sits around, like the RNC will sit around and strategize, and they'll say, guys, we got to back off this.

You know that DC has a problem. Redskin running backs are being shot at the valet, you know, two years ago, valet parking. Obviously, I you're shaking your head now. No, how do they get out of it? Because they're they ran on progressive prosecutors.

You've got Alvin Bragg, you've got the guys in California, their base, uh, AOC, the squad. I mean, Rashida Tlaib wants to do away with prison. I mean, what is more anathetical than crime enforcement than doing literally doing away with prison?

Some Democrats want no prison sentences more than 10 years, which means Dylan Roof, who killed nine black Christians, would be out of jail the day he hit 10 years.

So, how do you navigate a base that believes that and talk about crime enforcement?

So, here's the difference between you and Congress. It's really not left and right, it's right and wrong. It's right. I don't really say conservative or liberal anymore. It just doesn't come out when I'm preparing to do shows.

It's like, what are they thinking? I'm going to play some sound bites because people aren't going to believe that they said that. And that's what I spend most of my time doing. I think things have really changed now, but the American people are going on the side of right. I watched John Kerry and Bernie Sanders say something.

I thought it was concerted, but it wasn't. We did a bad job at the border. We should have been smarter at the border. And I go, okay, this is what they're going to do. Fine.

Admit you're wrong. Right. And build from there. I don't think their base will let them do it. More Kelly.

Senator, the astronaut, fighter jet pilot, probably. He can't even admit that Trump knocked that lock down the border. Yeah. That's how you become a minority party. And that may be why history does not repeat itself and that the Republicans don't lose the House is because they learned nothing.

So remember when we lost, the Republicans lost, they did an autopsy. All right. What do you think the Democrat autopsy is going to show? That we should stick up more, that cracking down all crime is unfair to criminals? You think that's what the autopsy is going to show?

It's going to say more profanity. That's what they said. That's what they started cursing like crazy. The Color of Death is the name of the book. Trey Cowdy put it out as his first novel.

Go and grab it today. It's a Fox book. You're going to hear a lot about it. And it's off his real life experience. Trey, congratulations.

Hopefully, we'll talk about this again as it stays on the list. You're going to get pressured to continue to promote it and promote it and give in to the pressure. And we'll watch him Sunday night at 9 p.m. Eastern Time. Trey Gowdy, thanks so much.

Thank you, brother. Appreciate it. All right. Back in a moment.