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In Kill Mead. What it is, yes, this voice definitely sounds taller and a little darker because it is Tyrus in for the great Brian Kill Me today. And I am, I'm just gonna start off right away. I'm so excited to be in here anytime I get the opportunity to sit in this.

Well, I would say big chair, but I I would. Be not accurate. And one of the things I hope with all the success that Killmean has, with the 17 TV shows that he has and his amazing radio show, is that at some point he'd get one of those fancy desks that you can push the button and raise the height. Because this kill me keyboard table is killing my knees here, man. It's just I have to sit back.

Everyone looks like I'm about to jump out of the chair. I just can't get that close because of, well, my knees are his table level. But again, it's not his fault. It's his parents' fault. But I'm so excited, man, because one of my favorite guests, one of my favorite people actually at Fox from the time I've been here, who's always been supportive and just a fun guy to talk to, and a fellow outdoorsman, the great Charlie Hurt.

And Charlie, I was watching you on Fox and Friends this morning, and I just want to get right into it, man. Yeah. I was absolutely blown away. And I know it's Putin, and you have to take it, but sometimes I think. The truth itself is way nastier than a lie.

Oh, yeah. And his comment about how he had not spoken. To the not just Biden, but the administration in years. Like that, that to me is troubling. Yeah.

And, you know, it's funny because I think something that has always sort of united you and me for since we first met is basically like we come from real places. We're real people and we know people who solve real problems. Yeah. It's all about common sense. And it's actually not that complicated.

It's just basic common sense. And in politics, freaking nobody has common sense. None. And then out of nowhere comes this guy, Donald Trump, who just is like a nor who gets normal people, has common sense, and recognizes that, okay, you've got this war going on here. You know what I'm going to do?

I'm going to, with the best interest of my country at heart, I'm going to go talk to both sides and see what we can figure out. And then he goes over there, and then you find out that one side has never even talked to the other side. And then you wonder how come nobody has been able.

Well And what and again, I always look at things from Like, what the whole perspective? Who benefits? That's always how I look at everything. Who benefits? If and we know based on And you were one of the guys on the front line of this about Biden's ability to speak and comprehend and whether he was fit to serve.

And I think the consensus was he was not.

So I get that I would not if I was his handler, and I knew that he was uh debilitated or limited, I would not let him speak. To what we consider an enemy or foe, because that type of weakness would expose us. Right. Right. But the other side of it is.

Zelensky also had to know that Right. Was not able, was not fit. I'm sure his conversations were probably filtered. I'm speculating here, but I guess maybe because the checks were coming in. You don't You don't ask the question because if, and I guess this is where I'm coming from: if it was my people.

If it was my country. And I was having a war, and the guy that I'm going to to help fix this or support me, I can't speak to, or when I do speak to him, I have more questions than answers about his fitness. I would go public. Yeah. I would be like, this is not fair to my country or me.

He's not fit to serve. America is. You need someone who can. Fix this for us.

So I guess, and again, it's this is just my opinion, but I mean, I just feel like was Zelensky just as long as the checks were coming in? No, I think that's exactly it. I think it's because the checks were clearing. And as long as the checks were clearing, why even think about like asking any questions? And that, again, is another one of these things.

So that's Zelensky's perspective. But also, you know, think about it from America's perspective. Like, what was Joe Biden thinking? What was the administration thinking? Why do you give away the store when we don't have the store?

We got problems of our own that we need to deal with. You want to give away the store, I guess, because you want to keep the clerk in the store. Yeah, and maybe you got an inside line to the clerk. Yeah, exactly. You can just go in and buy anything you want because you know their dirty little secret.

But this is the thing that my favorite thing about President Trump. President Trump. Comes into office, and he's the first president I've ever known that was like this. He knows everything happens for a reason. And like you said, like who's benefiting?

Who's benefiting? He recognizes that. And so he starts every single day, every problem he tries to solve, everything he does, he starts from the perspective of. How do I make this something that helps America is an advantage for America? Even if I want to help somebody else, how do I make it so that it helps America?

And so he, so then he starts talking about America first. And then what happens to the entire political establishment, even on the Republican side? Oh, you're a racist. And it's like, you're like, how did that happen? He didn't say white America first or Asian America first or black.

He said America. And even in these meetings that we saw yesterday, where you've got Zelensky talking about these issues, he is trying to, he's never forgetting that if he wants to keep Trump on his side to get what he wants, he needs to come up with ways to make the situation an advantage for the United States of America, whether it's like weapon systems or whatever. And of course, this was the original crux of the deal for the rare earth minerals in Ukraine. He gets it. And he gets it.

Trump. And by the way, that's good. For him as well, because if America winds up being invested in Ukraine, then suddenly it's like, you know, we have a reason to want to protect the place. Not to mention it's good for Ukrainians because now he's at the table with the president. I think before he was going in, and I think it was a blank check, and he just signed it, and he was able to get whatever he wants, but he wasn't getting.

At least I would think he would want peace or very soon if. Even as bad as Biden was, if he was able to pick up the phone and say, hey, Putin, president to president. You don't cut this. We're going to stop this. We're going to do that.

I also think silence is also sometimes a louder Statement than speaking to where America's not saying anything to me. Therefore, what are they really up to? But, you know, uh among your many talents, probably the most important one is that you're a great father. Can you imagine, as a parent, Letting your kids Get away with anything. Or even letting my kids negotiate.

Anything. The quickest way to create a terrorist, to create a monster, is to let them negotiate and let them get away with everything. And then do whatever they want. And it's such a simple principle that you have to engage. with them and explain to them the sort of like the natural order of things, or they go completely haywire.

And I think that when you have a President of the United States giving away our tax dollars, That we paid, we paid at the point of a gun under the threat of jail time, giving it away for something that while you're not even enforcing your own border, You're spending hundreds of billions of dollars enforcing a border in a country that most of us couldn't find. I can find Ukraine on a map right now, but if Russia hadn't invaded Ukraine, honestly, I wouldn't. I'm not going to find that one on a map. I toured over there with Snoop, and I was the first WWE match in Russia was Russia. Myself as the function.

No case. Yeah, a little.

Well, it's like one of those history things that no one's ever going to know. But, you know, it's not even going to make a textbook. But would you, just a blind test? Could you find Poland on a map? Only because I spent so much time over there.

But the average person. The reason why is because I was on tour. Uh with Snoop. We were coming out of St. Petersburg, Russia, when the Georgia stuff kicked off.

No. Yes, our tour stopped, and it was tanks one day. We're on a tour bus. Yeah. And we saw tanks go in this direction, and the bus driver, we bust a U-bone and turned the other way.

And so, another perfect example: you know, that was under the Bush administration. Like Joe Biden, these people were surrounded. By the greatest foreign policy thinkers. of our time. John Kerry.

There's no greater foreign policy expert to ever come out of Washington, except maybe Joe Biden himself. And Joe Biden, of course, was vice president when Russia took Crimea. You had all of the experts in the Bush administration when Putin invaded Georgia. And actually, you take all that. You could just flush it down the toilet.

Call Don from Queens. Yes. And he walks in and he's negotiating this. Hey, what do you want? What do you want?

It's like the Irishman when they're sitting at the table. And give nothing. Tell them some people are concerned. And never give anything away for free. Nothing.

Speaking of which, and I'm sure you've probably already heard this this morning. Can we roll one? I want to get the president in on this. We've had a very successful day thus far and important discussions as we work to end the killing and stop the war in Ukraine. We're all working for the same goal, very simple goal.

We want to stop the killing. Get this settled. I've uh Just had the honor of being with President Zielinski in all of the discussions that we've had. We covered a lot of territory. I mean, his message is so simple.

You don't need to be an epidemiologist to understand. What the president is talking about. I just want to stop the killing.

However, that looks, however, it works out, however, you want to put it on a piece of paper, guys. Here's the deal: we want to stop the killing. Fill in the blanks. I mean, you can't get, and to your point, and I acknowledge what you said earlier. I hate that to your point.

I'm ashamed of myself that I said it. But the simplicity of it. Yes, the simplicity. Of the basics of let's let's have p women and children. Stop dying, men being forced to be in conscriptions and stuff.

The whole tone has changed. Even like people, a lot of people made light of Zelensky showing up in a suit because the first time he showed up just there to pick up a check. And you don't get dressed up when you're there to pick up a check. You walk in. With and and the guy goes, Where's my envelope?

They give you the envelope, and then he'll stop and be like, It's a little light. Hey, Tony, don't be light next month. You know, and that's the difference. This time he showed up. To try and fix a problem.

Why? Why? Because there were standards. Yes. There were standards.

And that has nothing to do with it. If you have no standards, you get no results. Exactly. The second you start having standards, you start getting uh behavior. One of my favorite things that happened during I I think they kind of laid off it after a while, but in the first Trump term, was the New York Times would take a speech that Trump gave or remarks Trump made and put it into some program that would evaluate the language and then analyze it Like what grade level Language it was.

And Trump Usually speaks at a sixth grade level. And they would always point to that and laugh at him and mock him and talk and say how stupid he is and how ridiculous he is and all this kind of stuff. You and I are sitting here going. How do I do that? No, I think I do.

And I think we do. I think that's why we get along. I think to make it plain. as possible. To where everyone understands.

The lower it is, the more people who understand it. But it's effective. Yeah. And it's effective.

So that's why you have a. That's why you have a landslide election. Yeah. Because everyone understood. Whether you are a scientist.

Or you were a guy who was just working at at the Cracker Barrel, which is a delicious breakfast, wonderful pancakes. Either way, you understood what he was saying. And whether you like it or not, The the the the line cook at a cracker barrel? His vote counts just as much as John Kerry's. Yes.

And so if you're not talking to him, you may as well be not talking to John Kerry.

Well, we saw that happen when you only talked to the elites. Yes. Yeah, exactly. Kamalamala. You don't think she wished she would learn how to talk to a line cook now?

Or him? To tell him he's been unburdened by what has been. Say whatever you want to about Bill Clinton. Bill Clinton knew how to talk to a line. He could talk to a line cook.

Yeah, he could. And he loved anyone. Yeah, he loved people. He loved certain people a little bit more than he should, probably. Yes.

He can't talk slick to a list. He would flip over to his wife, who is, by the way, only in the position she got to because she was married to him. She married well. She couldn't talk to anybody except academics. I think she was.

Well, she's bitter. And then now she's. I mean, yeah, I mean, and look, she's got some things to be bitter. And I said on the gut fill tonight, after the comment she made about. The kids walking, taking subways to school.

She's a little out of touch. I said, you know, now the cheating doesn't seem like such a bad character flaw. Like, that's your morning, like, that's that mean person.

So I think, but to your, it's exactly what it is. To make fun of someone that he speaks to where everyone can understand, but don't get it wrong. He may sound like a sixth grader, but Putin understands every Every bit of force. In his wars. In when he speaks, they listen.

And even if your English is a little broken, it makes sense. If you look at the history of Putin's invading of other countries, there is. A dark two dark spots, and those two dark spots where it never happened. when Donald Trump was president, Because, as Trump, and I know he said this to you personally as well, you know, he. Trump threatened Putin?

If you invade, this is what's going to happen. And as Trump says, you know. You know, he didn't think I was serious, but there was. 10% of them that thought maybe I just might be that crazy. Because America, listen, we're going to go to a break here, but America, it's simple.

No one's going to remember Socrates' line, but they remember I'll be back. You know what I'm saying? Like, America is very basic. If you got a cool catchphrase, it carries weight. We'll be back after this on the amazing episode with Charlie Hurt on the Brian Kilmead show.

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And listen, I could talk politics with you all day, but every time I have you on, I have to put some time aside. How is the farm? Last time we had a snake issue. Oh man, what is going on? We got a coyote problem.

They are excited. And it's funny, you know, they really do come in waves. We didn't, I mean, early part of the summer, we didn't hear them at all. They weren't coming up on the cameras. And boom, like that, they're everywhere on every camera.

You hear them at night, and they're snatching birds. And I'm sorry, but you know, it's weird because they are dogs. Yes. Yes. And I love dogs more than I love most humans.

But um Coyotes are a different, they're a different thing. You know, and the cool part about coyote: if you shoot one, you shot the dumb one. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Like, so true.

It's like rats in the sea. Yes, yes. You only see the dumb one. It's only, it's going to be in the next year or two. We're going to see rats like driving SUVs in New York City because they just keep getting like, we keep calling the dumbest ones.

Well, we're seeing, you know, and you're an animal guy like me. Like, we're seeing in the ocean. New behaviors, right? And the newest thing is that killer whales are attempting to feed fishermen. They're trying to figure us out.

They're trying to figure out how we tick. Yeah. You know, and it's. And uh Yeah, they're outsmarting us. Because we have socially engineered it so that we keep getting the dumbest three every single.

And of course, the other thing is they have a generation for them. A generation for us is whatever, you know, what, 15 years at least, maybe 30 years. Generation for them is like six months. Yes. They start, you know, then you got another generation, and you can change things fast.

California, I grew up with coyotes, and I remember they used to send their females down in heat to draw the dogs up to the hills where the coyotes would wait on them. That's pretty clever.

So we never, in Southern Virginia, we never had coyotes. But they arrived filling the void left because wolves got exterminated. Yeah, and see, and that's also what happens with open borders. We got foreign coyotes everywhere. This has been the great Charlie Hard and Tyrus.

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Truly one of my favorite people. I consider him a hero, a mentor. He's been kind to me through the years. One of the toughest SOVs ever to walk on two feet. Lieutenant Colonel Alan West is joining us today.

First of all, sir, how are you? I'm doing great, Tyrus. I don't know if I'm one of the toughest, but I'm pretty sure. I'm pretty hard-headed, but I I just want to say this. My wife adores you.

You're in our house every night. And I don't care what's on. I mean, I have to switch over to see you on GutSail. Thank you very much. That means the world to me.

Teller, thank you so much for watching. And the last time I talked to you was you had just come, you were in the middle of recovering from a motorcycle accident. How are you, sir? How has that been?

Well, I've been fine. I mean, it's been five years. There's still, you know, scars and there's some residual issues because I had to have complete shoulder reconstruction. But I'm alive. I'm above ground perpendicular.

And that's all the batteries. Yes, sir. Every day we wake up is a good day. I'll tell you that. I'm just going to get into it with you because I think no one has personified what it is to chase the American dream and never letting something like skin color stand in your way.

And we all have had obstacles and whether it and white people have had different obstacles and black Americans, we have obstacles. But I always find it one of the most insulting things that the answer for every argument you're losing is when someone just brings, throws the race card. Yeah. Well, the bottom line is that that's their fallback. And when you're dealing with the The cultural Marxists, that's what I call them today.

I mean, they're just going to always come back on, well, you're just a racist, you're just a Nazi, you're just this, you're just that. That means that they've got beyond the talking points. Look, my dad grew up, he was born in 1920 down in the South, and my mom 1931. My dad told me that in life, you go out and you find out what the standard is and you exceed it. And that's what I've always tried to do, and that's what I always have tried to inculcate into my daughters.

And my grandsons will hear that as well, and everyone that's been around me. And there's no other nation like the United States of America that could take a kid like me that was born in the inner city of Atlanta, Georgia, in 1961 in a blacks-only hospital. And now I'm speaking with my good friend Tyrus on Fox News Radio. Yes, sir. There's no other country where that happens.

Nope. And it's also the. The negative of the benefit of this country is you can say whatever you want, regardless of whether it actually has any merit in it. Let me just let me roll our good I can't even say it with straight face. Let me roll rep Jasmine Crockett's greatest blast.

Most black people are not Republicans simply because we just is like, y'all racist. I can't hang out with the KKK and them. Most black people have very conservative values, right? But the reality is that like we just can't side with like the neo-Nazis in them. I just I sometimes I wonder, is she playing a character?

Because she contradicted herself. If you're conservative, you're conservative. Your voting habits would reflect such. You know, it's just most blacks. I don't think that's a strong statement to start any conversation.

I would never start a conversation like that. And not just anything. Even if I was like most fathers or most chipmunks. You know, I just. Mm.

Is it I don't think that's enough anymore. No, it's not. But again, this is where the weak-minded people go. And, you know, Jasmine Crockett is, you know, a member of Congress from right here in Dallas County where I live. And so I have to deal with her regularly.

But Shouldn't Daniels is a great candidate that's probably going to beat her. But the redistricting has put her in a bit of a fluffle. She may not be able to run again. But when you look at Jasmine Crockett, I think it was Benny Johnson who just did a little expose podcast on her. She's not this hood rat that she tries to portray herself to be.

And again, I think she's just a poser. She's a charlatan. She's a fake pony and a fraud. But this is the left mantra to put these people out there, these new gatekeepers, the new, what do they call them, the folks that want to keep people, the black race, on the economic plantation, to try to come up with stoking the fires of racism. The Democrats were the ones that created the Ku Klux Kingdom.

Yeah, like history doesn't support her argument. No, it doesn't support it. Jim Crow, all these things. The first congressional black caucus were seven Republicans. Uh to include my predecessor out of Florida, Josiah T.

Walls, 1871 to 1873.

So I don't know what she is talking about when you look at history. The civil rights legislation passed because of Republicans, Senator Edward Dirksen. Didn't pass because of Democrats. That was the longest ever filibuster in Senate history. It was against the Civil Rights Act and legislation.

So, what we need to have, Tyrris, and maybe one day you and I can hit the road on a little show. We need to educate people. Let's do it. I'm all for it. We need to hit the road and educate people.

Here's the truth. you know and and we need to start combating the lie because we've got to fight this narrative We're getting more people, black, Hispanic, whatever, they're starting to step out and say, This stuff doesn't make sense to me anymore, and we need to continue to be on offense. Right, because it always is on the losing side of things. Because when it's never when they're on top, when they're on top, it's as it should be. Uh, it goes back to the uh I always, I always, this is funny.

I was trying to force my kids to read the book Animal Farm, right?

So they can get an understanding of how politics work, even though it's basically a breakdown of why socialism and communism doesn't work. But there's this line in there that I, and I read it again as an adult, and I had a completely different take on it. But there's this line in there where they say, we're all created equal, but some of us are a little more. And I feel like that is kind of the mantra of the Democratic Party. They will say anything to get into power.

And then once they are, they have to have a little bit more of the benefits. And it's not, and it's become this thing, and it's embarrassing because it is. It is mostly And I Black Americans, the small thing that get these wonderful opportunities on TV. Because being on TV is not promised. It's not mandatory.

This isn't a skill trade. You know, it's not like you, you know, like being in entertainment and having opportunities to speak to people is not something that is mandatory. But it seems like to maintain or to get attention, instead of doing what you just so eloquently laid out, they don't do that. And here's another example. Joy Reed, one of my Favorite porn.

Yeah. Now can we roll Joe Re Joy Reid? They can't originally invent anything more than they ever were able to invent good music. When you tell them you don't have to be excellent, You just have to be white. You will get mediocrity.

I actually think that is a shame for white America. We're raising an America. That is mediocre on purpose because we don't want to tell Donald Trump. That he is a f. Failure.

But yeah. Uh I This I she's an educated woman.

Okay. And I just don't understand. I mean, I guess, you know what, though? When I had to deal with. Um Racism when I was coming up from an individual.

It was never a group thing. You know, it's always, it's a lonely, being a racist is a lonely existence. Yeah. You know, especially in this country now. And my you grew up in it in a different time.

I grew up in a time where it was losing its grip. And I would say in the last I would say in the last 20 years, it has tremendously changed in this country to where it has now There was an opportunity to show. Grace. There was an opportunity to show understanding. And a lot of the Democratic Party, in particular, especially our brothers and sisters, have took the road of vengeance, even though it didn't apply to them.

To your point, when it talked about Jasmine Crockett, she grew up in a very nice neighborhood, highly educated, had every opportunity afforded to her. And for her to come off and be a white people, this and that, and Joy Reed, the same thing, your show got canceled. Because of your rhetoric, not because of white America. I don't understand why they don't see that, or is it just. Is it financially?

I'm trying to understand. Is it financially benefit? Is it just because it gets us to talk about them? Is that the most important message instead of being consistent?

Well, first and foremost, my mom and dad would say that girl got a lot of book learning, but she ain't got no common sense. Yes. That's just down home speak. I think that what they're doing is they're trying to say the most outlandish things to get the attention drawn to them. Look, my oldest daughter married a white gentleman.

Love him to death. Love Troy to death. I mean, I love my grandson from them, Levi Allen. But you know, the biggest thing I have against my son-in-law, Troy, is that he cheers for the University of Alabama, and I'm from Georgia, and I went to Tennessee. Yes, that is a deal breaker.

Yeah, I mean, the third Saturday in October, I can't stand the kid. But after that, I mean, we're good to go.

So I don't care about his skin color. All I care about is that he's a little bit more. Listen, as a father of three daughters, if his skin tone matches mine, but his character or his gutter, I don't give a damn. That's right. Yeah, I don't care.

Asian, white, you're a good man who treats my daughter with respect and loves her and does and provides for her as a man should. We good. But again, if you come in my house with a Laker jersey on as a lifelong Celtic fan, we gonna have a problem. I might ask you to step outside. Be like, you don't come in this house with that yellow shirt on, sir.

Like, how dare you? Yeah, that's absolutely right. That's absolutely right. But see, when you have people like Jasmine Crockett, the overseers, that's what they are. They're the new overseers.

Oh, good call. And that's what the white liberals, progressives, Marxists, they have propped them up into that position. And so that's what we have going on right now. You know, and here's the thing, though the and you bring up the the extreme white Liberals is that they go out of their way to get unqualified people of color. In these positions, which to the overall American, if you were going to judge someone based on their performance and their comments off the color of their skin, is a complete oxymoron to what the mission was for you.

It makes zero you want because then again, though, unqualified people, regardless of of color or sex or orientation, depend on the ones who put them in there for guidance.

So it's not it's not it's not done uh it's done by design. Because they tell them they're talking points. You don't want anyone that can critically think for themselves. That's why you get called Uncle Tom, you get called Sellout, you get all those things. That's why all of a sudden you don't hear people in the black community talking about Booker T.

Washington. Exactly. One of the most eloquent men, one of the greatest educators in the United States of America, who said education, entrepreneurship, and self-reliance were the three pillars of Tuskegee Normal and Industrial Institute. Why, if we got our education system back on the principles of Booker T. Washington, the left would be done.

They have dummied down our education system, and that's what they have wanted to do. And guess who that has hurt the most? The inner city community. And now they have people exactly where they want. It's not so, you enslave the mind first.

And sometimes that's even worse than enslaving the body. But there's only one political party that's done both in the United States of America. And I think, Tyrus, you and I know who that is. Yes. You know what?

And mention in Booker T, you know, Booker T, he also. Showed what real work ethic is. When you went to his universities and his schools, you had to have a trade. You had to have your behind in church, and you had to educate yourself.

So you had a three-headed dragon. To build your future. And neither of the three were you allowed to slack off on. And he led by example. There was a reason he was sought out by presidents, you know, because his work ethic, his integrity, and his intelligence.

Surpassed anything with it had to do with your eyes. And the fact that we don't. Make take more time to acknowledge that to understand when I see, and I deal with my own kids when they be like, Oh, I'm tired today. I'm like, You're tired.

Well, let me sit down and explain to you what really tired is being in this because, in this country, if you do the work, and that's the thing I always say: if you do the work. As you're supposed to do it, good things always happen. It's just how it works. You might run into one person that says, Hey, I don't like you for whatever reason. I'm not going to hire you.

That's one man's mistake. And maybe that door closed, but another door opens. And I'm a living, breathing example of that. And. To segue into something 'cause uh given your your background uh when it comes to uh Accountability and dedication to tasks and stuff.

One of the things, and I just want to bounce this off. We've heard a lot of the complaining about what President Trump did in D.C. to clean up the city. And I don't, I'm not even going to acknowledge the arguments to it because there is no arguments to it. Making your city safe, you shouldn't argue that.

But one of the things that I, you know, especially with Judge Janine getting in there, Lord help them, they're in trouble because she doesn't play. But these lost young men. Who are, you know, they form gangs, and a lot of times gangs are formed out of necessity because there's no father at home or positive role model. And there's a lot of bad mothers out there. And, uh, But one of the things I thought about was that instead of sending a lot of these, when they commit these crimes, especially the heinous crimes, they should be tried as adults.

But I also think we should be creating opportunities for catching the ones early and doing the vagrancy, running the streets and graffiti and things like that. When I was coming up, a judge would give you a choice. You could go do six months. Or whatever it is for beer runs or whatever the minor crime is. you get opportunity to change your life around and you could join the service.

Another thing would be, or giving them opportunities To Go to trade schools. Give these young men an opportunity to turn their life around before we get to the carjackings, before we get to the rapes and the assaults and the shooting at somebody because you can't settle your differences. I know that's a lot of people, when I said that, like, oh, you're forcing them to the military. No, no, no, I'm forcing these young men. Giving them the opportunity to become men.

in this country. Yeah. You know, you you bring up a great point. When I was up there in DC in Congress, I said, why don't we, you know, take some of these young men out there who don't have positive role models in their lives, pick them up on the Appalachian Trail. Give them a backpack, give them, you know, spread out the food in and amongst them and say, Okay, you're tough guys, right?

Okay, we're going to hike now for the next couple of days or so. And what you are carrying on your back, that's your shelter, that's your food, figure it out. Here's a map and here's a compass. And of course, you're there as an adult to make sure they don't get off the trail. But challenge them.

You know, these little guys who want to go out and be gangbangers and stuff like that, why don't you take them to a long-range shooting range and say, okay, you're a real tough guy. You think you're waving the gun around. Let me see you hit that target out there at 500 yards. Let me try to teach you about the right things about a firearm, not pointing it at somebody. And these are all great points, and I wish we had more time.

Always a pleasure, and we got to get together on the road real soon. This has been Alan West and Tyrus on the Brian McKilvin Show. From the Fox News Podcasts Network. Hey there, it's me, Kennedy. Make sure to check out my podcast.

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What it is. Listen, man, always talking with the great. Lieutenant Colonel Alan West. Really, one of the things that I've really been harping on is when I looked at not just the DC, but all around this country, is. Getting our young men back on track.

And again, I'm not throwing any shade towards young women, but I kind of stay in my lane. And I think young women are smarter than young men, to be honest with you. But. Because they're not influsted with, as my daughter would say to me, the testarone. I think he's on the testarone, daddy.

But. I would like to see opportunities to where, and maybe our federal government can get involved. You know, we have food stamps and we have, but we need more programs for young men to get opportunities in life. Instead of them seeing the most glamorous thing in the world as the drug dealer with the gold chains or the guy, the NBA player or the NFL player or the rapper or the actor, all those things are next to impossible to attain. But if we started having programs that would give our young men trade schools, plumbers, electricians, carpenters, construction work, stuff that gives them the ability to build their own business, to be their own guy in a short amount of time without saying, oh, you can't get an education.

We need to bring trade schools as part of our federal government to start building young men and women too, to give them a foothold to where they can be. In the driver's seat of their life, and a little bit of pride and success goes a long way. But that's just me. Because for me, my outlet was football, and I liked reading books, and that's what college worked for me. But brothers with their hands need opportunities.

This has been Tyrus. I'm the From high atop Fox News headquarters in New York City. Always seeking solutions, never sowing division. It's Brian Kilmead. Sure.

Remix, not kill me, it's Tyrus.

Now listen. I've been thrilled to think about. I get an opportunity to speak a little bit on my own behalf right now. And I'm. I was trying to think what I really want to talk about because the gerrymandering thing is confusing, but I think we have to talk about it.

I also think we need to talk about what President Trump has to do to get the Nobel Peace Prize that he hasn't done already in grand fashion. And three, by Adventures of a Horse Dad.

Now, what do those three things have in common? Is the connective tissue, to quote the great Oak Island, one of my favorite TV shows. How do I connect them all? And they all come down to one thing. You have to do the work.

You have to do the work. You have to roll your sleeves up, get your fingernails dirty, and do the work.

Now, you'd be like, well, as a horse dad, how do you do the work?

Well, I got to work to financially be able to allow my daughter to do what she does, but she has to do the work. And what that means, that's not just not doing the shows and riding the horse and wearing the fancy suits. It's doing the work, shoveling the stalls, giving the horse the baths, making sure they take their vitamins, making sure their fields are clear of rocks and look for holes and making sure their diet is good and spending time with them and brushing them and putting in the work behind the scenes. And that goes without saying, in any aspect of my life, nothing has ever came to me unless I did the work. Even in a few times when things have been handed to me.

In my life experience, any time anything has been handed to me, I usually squander it. Or it doesn't work out because I didn't have the roots of the hard work. I never had to make the decision: well, you know, if I don't get up this morning and do the training, I'm going to get cut.

So you get your behind up and get cut when things are handed to you, like, I'll get to it tomorrow, no big deal. And then when it goes away, you're kind of like, well, you know, it was, you know, and then you make all the excuses in the world to yourself instead of like, well, I didn't work as hard because I didn't necessarily earn it.

So, and when it comes to horse daddy, or even my son with his travel ball and baseball, and my other daughter's with her with her choir, and my other daughter with her softball and her swimming, all those things you want and your education, you can't get it unless you do the work. And it has become a saying of mine. And even myself included, I could add cutting 127 pounds. No, it was not the oh, oh, oh Zempic. It was the hard work.

I had to burn more than I took in. Very basic, very simple. And I had to do workouts. And I had to change the way because I was a power lifter for a long time. And lifting the big, heavy weights wasn't any good for my heart anymore or myself or my joints.

You get older, you got to be smarter. And as much as you want to maintain that jacked exterior and be a monster. And in case, you know, four guys break in the house, it's going to be a handicap match that night. You also have to think about long term. You want to be around.

So I had to change some things. But even so, I had to do the work. And. You're going to say to yourself, well, how are you connecting all that to gerrymandering? It's because they don't want to do the work, is the argument.

Gerrymandering has been going on for a long time. I think if the name was more clear, because whenever I hear gerrymandering, I think of a guy named Jerry, and I don't think this was his plan. But whenever they change the districts, there's still the same ingredients. You have to go out and do the work. You have to go out and convince the people that you're the best option.

Because here's the thing: in America, it's not always about Democrat and Republican, it's about who's willing to do the work. If you go out to these cities that you are supposed to represent, these districts that you're supposed to represent, and you spend as much time as you do on TV talking about stuff that doesn't matter about it's racism, why President Trump won in the landslide, it's not, and you actually did the work and knocked on doors and held town halls and saw what the people wanted, I don't think they'd really give it, really give a frog's. behind what Whether you had a donkey pin or an elephant pin on your lapel, they would care: wow, this person cares about our community, knows our community. There's a good idea. Do the work, know the history of the community, know what the people need.

If you got potholes everywhere, show up with a shovel and a bag of asphalt and some cement and do some damn work because that will go a long way. But when you want shortcuts and things handed to you, you complain. And that's what this gerrymandering thing, pretty much to me, in my opinion, is whether you still got to win the districts. And if it's a even playing field or you have a disadvantage, guess what, folks? That's life.

Every morning, 90% of the Americans wake up and go to work. There's going to be things against them. There's a deadline. If they're working on a factory line, they have to get their products not done quickly, but also correctly. There's always someone trying to take your job.

There's always opportunities for growth where you have to do the work.

So when you hear them crying on TV about being forced to do more work, I shed no tears for them. I look at them and go, You're not fit to serve. You're certainly not fit to be a leader because to be a leader, you have to sacrifice. To be a leader, you have to show people around you. What it means to lead.

So, maybe you don't get to go to the club. Maybe you don't get to travel and run off to Chicago every time something doesn't go your way. That, to me, is the opposite of what it is to be a leader. To stand your ground when it's not popular. To be the guy in the room that says, No, I'm going to go back to work.

I'm going to fix this. I'm going to find a way. And then, if it doesn't work out, if you fail or you lose your district, it wouldn't be because you didn't do everything you needed to do. And this is from an athlete's perspective. If I train everything I and put everything I can do into it, and then I lose the game.

I'm not that mad about it because I gave all I had, and the other guy was just better. And you tip your cat to him. You tip your cat? Whoa. You tip your hat to him.

I guess I'm still upset over Gutfield saying guys who wear their hats backwards aren't smart, but I'll let it go. I don't need an apology. He knows he messed up. But the point is: you do the work. And How do we connect all of this to horse daddy and gerrymandering mandering and losing weight?

And the pinnacle is. President Trump and the Nobel Peace Prize. How many wars? Does he have to stop? How many neighborhoods does he have to clean up?

How many corrupt officials does he have to expose? Is he perfect? No, but no leader is, and nor should they. You cannot attain greatness without failure. You cannot attain greatness without making mistakes.

There's this word called redemption. It actually should mean more in this country. To make a mistake, acknowledge the mistake, and prove and not make the same mistakes. That's one thing in my long career in wrestling. One of my favorite trainers, double-Arn Anderson, used to tell me at the time I was Brodus, and as he would affectionately call me Bratis, Bratis, you can make mistakes, you just can't make the same mistake twice.

And that's pretty much how I live my life. I try not to make the same mistake twice. You try to learn from your mistakes because when you learn from your mistakes, you become stronger and smarter. And we clearly see a different side of leadership from President Trump in this. Listen.

I'm going to call it second and a half term. But in this term, where he is using his wisdom experience from the previous eight years of battling and dealing with every possible thing you could throw at this man, including bullets, to stop him, he has gotten to a point of leadership where he is in this final form, President Trump. He has reached where he's used all the hard work. He does the work. And because he does the work, he is respected by leaders across this world who normally would not respect American leadership or try to undermine it.

And he is potentially. Pretty much on the cusp of bringing not a ceasefire, but peace between Ukraine and Russia. But let's not forget about the six other wars he stopped. Let's not think about him actually cleaning up. The cities of blue or people who oppose him, people who lied about him, people who employ uh the squealers.

That's my affectionate name for fake news. I call them squealers from Animal Farm. They'll just go out and say anything to push the narrative. Uh He continues to put RFK Jr. out there to get our food cleaned up.

He is doing things. He is showing great leadership and he's doing the work.

So I don't think he should get one Nobel Peace Prize. I think he should get one for each war he broke up, one for each city he cleaned up. One for each dirty, corrupt Tax dollar that is being stopped being spent by the American people on these so-called political leaders. You're doing The work. He is doing the work.

So Nobel Peace Prize him out. He should be, he should have a car load of them. You know, he should be. And again, it's not a Republican thing. It's not a Democrat thing.

It's a leader. It's a work thing. And he's doing the work. Same thing I tell my daughter. And by the way, when she was washing the horses and cleaning up the horses, she had a damn smile on her face the whole time.

When my son is training at D1 and he's hitting the books, and then he's at four different practices for four different baseball teams, and then he's got to go to bed at night and he's got to eat clean, he's doing it with a smile on his face because they've embraced doing the work. Same thing with my other daughters with their choir and their education and their softball and their swimming and their instruments. They're doing the work. Practice makes perfect. You have to train yourself to be better.

And I think we've lost that a little bit in terms of what is put out in front of us by the squealers, by the media, by TV, because they always push the most ridiculous stuff. You don't see commercials about working to be an electrician or working to be an educator or a job of substance to where if you do the work, you get the result. No, they always push the most ridiculous thing where it's your life as an NBA player drinking a bottle of sprite. Guess what? Most NBA players don't drink.

Bottles of Sprite because it's too much sugar. They do the work, and it's an unrealistic goal.

Some of us will make it.

Some of us, I mean, I've been in entertainment for over 20 years, and it's not expected. And eventually, one day I'm gonna crack a joke on TV, and someone's gonna go and change the channel, and I'll be it. But I still will have food to put on the table, and I might have to break out my teaching credential and go to work, or whatever it is, or write my books, or whatever it is I'm working on. But that is the point. You have to do the work.

So I hope you enjoyed my little rant about doing the work.

So, whether it's gerrymandering or Nobel Peace Prizes to the president or being a horse dad or being a. A young athlete or young aspiring things. It all is connective tissue in the terms of Oak Island. And if you haven't seen that show, you really should check it out. It's my favorite.

I hope they never find a thing because I just love seeing the camaraderie and getting to play with heavy equipment and dig stuff up. But you got to do the work. And unlike Killmead today, who's not doing the work, he's taking the day off, but he gave me the opportunity to do the damn work.

So this is Tyrus, and I am filling in for Brian Kilmead on the Brian Killmead Show. Learning something new every day on The Brian Kilmead Show. The more you listen, the more you'll know. It's Brian Killmeade. What it is, is Tyrus filling in for Brian, kill meads, and we've really got to work on getting uh a Taller desk, but it's all good.

I am appreciative nonetheless.

So, all right, there was a little bit, I don't even want to call it a controversy, but I guess it was a controversy. The great Scott Bale, who was a legend on TV for decades, is best friends or very close friends with Adam Hunter, who is part of the Gutfeld team and a guest on the team. And Adam talks about his relationship with Scott in the green room all the time. Like, you know, how funny he is, he's a family guy, and he's always like Tyrus. You love him, et cetera.

And I had never met Scott before.

So, and I really like Adam. And anytime on the show, if Adam has a joke that's not going my job, I always have his back, right? Because I love his sense of humor. He's self-deprecating, and I just think he's a great guy and has got a bright future.

So he was trying about talking about Scott and how, like, he thought Scott would be great to come on the Gutfell show. And I was like, cool, I got you back.

So. I've been working with Greg as a co-host on the Gutfell show for a decade. And I know. Uh to ask Greg stuff. Um You gotta kind of play a little game with him where you put it in his head, you know, and you kind of throw things out there.

So it was, we had just come from back from the green room. We were doing the show, and I was trying to think of a way that I could get Scott mentioned. On the show, right? And It's always off-scripted. And in the past, when I've done this before, it always works.

So I wasn't really even thinking about it or whatever. And we started talking, and it was a segment, and then the segment went off the rails. And we started, and Greg made a comment about actors, great actors that you haven't seen on TV for a while. There was something like whether they're alive or dead or not. And I looked at Adam, teasing him, and I said, Scott Bale.

And Adam was like, That's my best friend. And we laughed. And I said, No, no, no, don't get me wrong. I loved him in Charles in Charge, and I loved him and Zapped and this, that, whatever. And of course, Greg said, Hey, Scott, maybe we should have him on the show.

So, mission accomplished.

So, I thought. And then the next day, the video came out. And while I will never apologize for making the joke, I do feel bad for how Scott took it. And joining me now is the great Scott Bale to let's clear the air and make this right. Scott, how are you?

Hey, Tyrus, it's not bad for a guy who just put his dog to sleep this morning. Wow! Of course. Not looking for sympathy. No, but hey, listen, listen.

When you lose a best. I'm my usual jovial self. That's why.

So, anyway, what was your dog's? No, no, 'cause this I'm I'm I have about 200 pets: uh reptiles and fish and cats and horses. Uh my wife will let me have a dog. Uh I don't run my household. But uh, what was your dog's name?

His name was Bugsy. Uh Bugsy Malone, which was a movie I did about 15 years ago. Yes. And he was a seizure alert dog for my wife. He's a great little pomerine.

He was 10. And we don't know what happened. He's just gone, just gone this morning. And it's, you know, heartbreaking. My daughter, she slept with my daughter every night.

Blah, blah, blah. You know the drink. Yeah, I know. It's tough because they are family members. And I am truly sorry for that.

And like I said, um, Again, this is all Adam's fault, just so you know. But he's always talking about you in the green room. We love Adam. And he's a really good dude, and I think he has a bright future. But you know, uh, when I saw the video and stuff, I was like, Wow, man.

Uh, 'cause A lot of us, myself included, I came on Gutfeld in 2014.

So the attacks from the cancel culture, I know it all too well, especially being black at entertainment. I got it culturally.

So I wait a minute. Wait a minute, Tyrus. Gutfeld's been on since 2014. He's actually been long. He went from Red Eye.

Yeah, he was when he was on Saturday nights. Oh, okay, okay. But the Gutfell show. You're making my life go too fast. Yes.

Okay, no. Continue.

Sorry, man.

So so, you know, I I know a thousand percent. Uh what that feels like. And while I uh Don't even think about it anymore because the way it turned out for us when I was asked, I said, I'm glad it happened because look at us now. But you went through some hell. And for that, I'm sorry you had to endure that.

I well, Tyrus, I appreciate that. Yeah. I have a very thick skin. I've been doing, I've been in this business my whole life, and people have accused me of things I didn't do. People have made fun of me.

I don't care. My wife gets upset. I'm like, sweetheart, I don't care. I've been called every, I don't care. What struck me about what you said was two things, actually.

And otherwise, I would have just let it go as a joke. But in 97, 1997, I was reported dead and confirmed dead. Um Yeah. And for about an hour and a half. My parents and my brother and sister thought I was dead.

It was on CNN, it was on whatever. Escapeo died in a car crash. This was around Christmas time. And Two Come home, I was actually shopping. And to come home.

My phone is ringing off the hook and I have no idea why. Answer the phone. And it's my mother weeping. And I thought somebody in my family had died. And I'll never forget.

My father was, she turned and said, He's alive. And I went, What are you talking about? That whole I don't know. You're a dad. Hey, Scott, we got to do a quick break.

I hate to cut you off. We got to do a quick break. I'm going to bring you back because we're going to hear the rest of this.

So, we're going to have a quick break, and we'll be back with Scott. If you're interested in it, Brian's talking about it. You're with Brian Kilmead. What it is, Tyrus is back, and hopefully, he's still with us to Scott Bale because he was in the middle of. A uh amazing terrible story.

I feel so bad your mother had to endure that. Scott, you still with us? Yeah. Okay, so I guess in acting, this would be cut, resume scene.

So, anyway, so she turns and says to my dad, he's alive. And I'm like, what are you talking about? And he said, well, he was, and I said, put daddy on the phone and. He gets on the phone. I said, Dad, I'm okay.

He screams, I can't talk to you right now. And he hangs up the phone. He was so distraught. And then, you know, all the things with that. Then he then when my daughter was about five She saw, this was in like 2012 or something, that I was reported dead in Turks and Caicos.

What? And she saw it in the supermarket. I died in a jet ski accident. And then, you know, so that bothered me. And then also, Tyrus, one more thing.

You know, I was I was the first guy. Out of the box to support Trump. And he asked me personally. To speak at the convention in 2016 in Cleveland. Right, I remember that.

And the moment that he asked me, Tyrus, I knew what was going to happen. I did it for my daughter and I knew that I would that the blowback would be unbelievable.

So if I was if if You made the joke that I was dead because I was incompetent or because I murdered somebody and was in jail. I'd have laughed all day long. but because I willingly sacrificed my career. For Trump. I was like, you know what?

Damn it. I like Tyrus. I think he's funny as hell, but I sacrificed it all for the man. And I thought that's not why. Let me ask you, let me throw this back at you.

So, that's the reason why. Otherwise, you could call me any name you want. No, no, no. And listen, listen, my first choice was going to be Steven Seagal.

So, but because I was, me and Adam, were now going to have Steven Seagal mad at me. But I'd rather have Stephen mad at me than you follow me. Yeah, no, no, I get it. Listen, listen. Had I known.

That for some reason The mainstream media has been trying to off you for the last, which is ridiculous, horrible, what your family went through. And I wouldn't wish that on anyone. And I know because I get a lot of death threats, especially. And they, again, when you're a big monster like me, you kind of like, yeah, bring it. But then when they bring your family into it, which I've had to endure a lot of, then it changes the.

So I completely understand, although it was never to the point where it made the news that. Tyrus w died in a jet skiing accident. But In making one of the things that happened on the Guthill show probably about a month ago is Greg talked about all the stuff that we went through being a show that from the beginning. Supported conservatism, supported the Trump, was. Ask questions about the vaccs and all this stuff.

And now that everyone's kind of coming around to it and we're seeing that we were right. The biggest thing that affected me was in the midst of all this, I had two pretty good TV shows going. I was on Preacher, where I was playing Hellguard, and then I was on The Purge, where I was playing a character, and I was up for some, and I had some movie stuff going on, and I was up for a part in the movie Morbius, and then all of it just kind of went away, right? When 2016, and it was always the same thing. You know, the casting director, you know, saw her some things you said on Fox that we just, you know, we just don't want to be a part of and whatever.

So I get that. But Greg was asking me, you know, what would you change of that? And I was like, nothing. Because look where we are today. And, like, even me, I couldn't get booked at a comedy club, right?

But now I've built my own comedy show. And now I'm getting calls to do TV stuff. And I'm like, oh, no, I'm good. No, thank you. You know, and it's like.

Have you seen the fruits of your sacrifice now? Because obviously, you're you. We're lightning in a bottle for decades. You've played a million characters. You can be a bad guy.

You can be the guy that you would trust your daughter to date. You could be a sinister villain. Do you have the desire now? To get back in the game now that it's different, or you just your life is where it's at now and you're good, and I'm just not interested. Oh, I'm good.

I'm kind of interested. I'm kind of working on something now, but I don't know. Um I have a podcast that's on every Wednesday called Scott Bell's Take on Life, which is on YouTube and all that. And I love doing it with my buddies. It's eight o'clock at night Eastern.

Time, but I Tyrus, that's a good question. You know, I had a series on up until 2016 on Nick at night. For a couple of years and um And that We stopped doing that, and I was working on something else. Right. And as soon as I made the speech, man, I knew it.

Yeah. I knew it. I mean, I'll give you, I have it in writing. I have it in writing. I was, I don't know, a year or two after that, when Trump was president for the first time, I was working with a friend of mine and he called.

He emailed somebody at ABC whom he knew. who was a VP of whatever. And said, I have this idea with Scott Bayo, and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And she writes back. I don't want anything to do with Scott Trump Bayo.

Right. That's about right.

So I was like, oh, well, I guess it's worse than what I thought it would be. But again, I knew it. To answer your question. I don't know. I don't know.

My daughter's going to go to college next year. You know, not this fall, but next fall.

So I I can't give you a different. I'd like to do something, maybe. I like to play golf. But I don't know. For sure.

But if something comes up, or if something I think of, or something my friend and I. Um Can come up with them, we can get it up. I'll do it. My daughter's a competitive golfer, which is why we're in Florida. Where in Florida are you, Tyrus?

Um, we're moving, uh, we moved down to the Palm Beach, Wellington area because my daughter is a jumper. And my son. We have friends living in Wellington who their daughter's a jumper too. Yeah, and she's traveling to Toronto. My 11-year-old is competing against adults because she's apparently lightning in a bottle.

So I can't retire anytime soon because I'm a horse dad. And then my son plays travel ball in Florida.

So I'm all up. They're everywhere.

So I haven't been home in a month, actually. I go from one to the other, one to the other on the weekends when I'm doing my four days at Fox and I fly off. But yeah, I always, but I always go back to saying, like, I have absolutely no regrets for standing my ground uh and and Believing and and When you believe in something, when you believe in someone, you believe in a way of thought. Good things typically happen when you're on the right side of things. And so.

Just the fact that you, like I said, you're excited your daughter's gonna go to college, that's more important than any TV show, anyways, to be honest with you. Yeah, man, she's first in her class to get uh recruited and committed and D1.

So she's excited, and we're excited. And Anyway, sorry, go ahead. No, no, but I'm just saying, like, that's more important. But again, yes, that's but that's back to my point, which is why, which is why I was canceled. It was for her.

Right. So, you know, period. No regrets. Yeah, no regrets. Awesome.

Well, you know what, man, I'm glad I got a chance to meet you and we cleared it up and hopefully maybe I'll come on your podcast sometime and I have some questions about the early days of No problem. Especially the happy day stuff. That would be kind of cool to hear about. But and again, my condolences for your dog, and I'm glad your family's doing well. And good luck to your daughter in school.

And I appreciate you, Scott. You have a great day. Thanks, Tyrus. Talk to you. Bye, man.

It's Brian Killmead. I'm Janistine. Join me every Sunday as I focus on stories of hope and people who are truly rays of sunshine in their community and across the world. Listen and follow now at Foxnewspodcast.com. Radio that makes you think.

This is the Brian Kill Me Show. What it is, Tyrus and Bag. Does anyone else ever hear that song get it stuck in your head for like a week? I don't know the words, so for some reason, it's always gets stuck in my head when I'm where he is. But enough about me.

Joining me right now is Reagan Charleston, attorney from New Orleans, Louisiana, former reality TV star. But are we ever formerly a reality TV star? I think you're a reality TV star for as long as you want to be. Reagan, thank you so much for joining us today. How are you?

I guess I'm going to be branded forever as a reality T V. There's worse things to be branded. Trust me. I've been called a few other choice things about my career.

So but you are an attorney. That is your daytime gig, besides being a mother. By the way, Your daughter's hilarious. Absolutely, he is absolutely hilarious. Uh, the lemon challenge was amazing.

Uh, Her and my daughter were doing. See, I played a game where I was challenging them if they could make a bitter face, if they could not make a bitter face if they ate a lemon. And her battle with the bitter face was something I will not forget for a long time. I think we cleaned them out of lemons. Yes, yes, yes, yes, we did.

Yes, a thousand percent. A thousand percent. Speaking of cleaning out. Uh President Trump uh You've I'm uh you know you pay attention to everything, but uh What he's doing in DC with bringing in the National Guard to clean up the streets and basically taking over the police department. I want to play a quick sock for you.

I think it's number 12 for us. I'd like to get your reaction to this. We have a thing going on right now in D.C. We went from the most unsafe place anywhere To a place that now people, friends are calling me up, Democrats are calling me up, and they're saying, Sir, I want to thank you. My wife and I went out.

to dinner last night for the first time in four years. And Washington, DC is safe, and you did that in four days. I'll tell you it's safe. When you hear those comments, as a lawyer who cross-examination, all that kind of stuff, is there an argument? Against it?

I mean, yes, of course. And I'm a lawyer. I see things from both sides, both perspectives. And I have to say it, I think the initial directive was overly broad. I think it was an overreach, but DC is dangerous.

Like, you know, you can't avoid. acknowledging the fact that something needed to happen. And we have metropolitan cities all over the country that need change. I'm from New Orleans, I live in New Orleans. I know nothing.

Better than the fact that sometimes your local government officials are not doing their jobs. And you know, we've had the National Guard come into New Orleans, and I always welcome the National Guard in New Orleans when they step in. In times of crisis, they're the ones that come in and they make the people feel safe. And that's whether you know it's because the NOPD is understaffed or they don't have the resources, or you know, it depending on the decade, the corruption, I think you're seeing a lot of that in DC. And, you know, when it When you think about the data, we can't even rely on what the Metropolitan Police Department's putting out.

They're misrepresenting and suppressing the actual crime data. And when you look at the murder rate, which I think is the most indicative of how dangerous the city is, because there's bodies, right? Other crimes can kind of. Slip under the radar and not get reported. You can really play with that information and manipulate it, but homicide is homicide.

And I think DC is like fifth in the country right now. And that's a problem. You don't. want to be In the top 10 highest murder cities. I mean, that's just.

No, I think New Orleans is like probably right up there at the top. Yeah, no, and listen. You made a great point about it being brought. And that's an argument and a conversation that can be had. But I want to play you for the I wanna play you number 15.

This is the argument or the clapback. to the president's plan. Roll 15 for me. Stay away from homeless people You fascist quotes Get the f out that's Okay, you know what I'm saying? Like when that's the argument back.

Uh And it's i or it's or the other argument was it's racism. But the bodies And I'm saying this as a black man. The bodies are my are my own. You know, they're a you know what I'm saying?

So why would you. Again, your thing about you want it more specific in terms of what their roles would be. That. I will sit down with that. And that is a good argument because you don't.

Well, I think that's where things stand right now. I mean, I think there's going to be some negotiation. And I think that stepping in with a broad, you know, kind of sweep at first is the only way you can start and instigate change. Judge Reyes didn't enter a TRO. She's basically just ordered, you know, the federal government and the city officials to negotiate some plan.

And I think that that's a really healthy place. And it also shows that it wasn't that severe of an overreach that there wasn't an immediate, you know, injunction issued or temporary injunction issued. And I think that the reaction is crazy. We all want safer streets. And what you're saying is talk to the people in the communities where they're scared to send their children out and they're scared that they're going to get shot and in their in front of their home or wherever, you know, going to work in the morning.

You know, that's not going to be your ordinary politico that may have security details. Walking around the nice hotels, restaurants, and monuments. I mean, talk to the people in the high crime areas in DC and what they want. You know, it's those citizens that need the resources. They need boots on the ground.

They need people to protect them. And I think that there's a really healthy balance. And I think that that can be effectuated. And I don't think it's worthy of all this blowback. Right.

You know, and another thing is lost in this, and As an attorney, uh These offenders, especially the young men, their children. I mean, but they're doing grown-ass man crimes.

So when, and Judge Janine, who is one of my favorite people on the planet, her getting in there and wanting to make real-life consequences for some of the major crimes. As an attorney, when you look at If you had a client who was a part of this, What would you be looking for in terms of if you had to make a deal? Like they got him dead bang. They got the video or they have the DNA and it looks like he needs to plead guilty. What would you look at in terms of these young people?

Would it be case by case, obviously? But overall, is it incarceration? Is it maybe thinking about. Opportunities to maybe join the military or trade schools or some sort of probation. Like, what do you think as a good outcome?

Because putting somebody away for, you know. 20 years, again, depending on the heinousness of the crime.

Well, first of all, I'm not a a criminal attorney. No, no, you're not. I'm not a criminal defense attorney and/or prosecutor. I'm a civil litigator. But from my perspective, especially as a legal professional in the city of New Orleans, we have had DAs in the past that have had really lax policies as it relates to juvenile crime.

And I can understand where someone would take that perspective because. Youth, it's really unfortunate, you know, the environments that they're growing up with in New Orleans, it's tragic. And children are a product of their environment. But when you have violent crimes and they are literally let out the same day without any repercussions, what do kids like to do? They get away with more and more each and every time.

So if you're just releasing violent offenders because they're under 18, it's going to escalate and create a larger problem. And it's those progressive policies where we saw a huge uptick in the violence in New Orleans, and they had to reign our DAN at that point. And the policies had to change because you could see a direct correlation between violent crime and the policies in the DAA's office and what was being prosecuted, how long they were holding these juvenile offenders. And I think that what you're saying, whether there's some Kind of program, whether it's military or counseling or whatever it may be, I don't think scot-free, getting off scot-free is the way to approach it. It's just creating a really, really terrible problem.

You know, and I always talk about the kind of the grassroots initiatives like and i go back to my experience in new orleans and we have programs where there's mentorship for young men in the community where you know it's it's mentoring them and whether it's education professional uh endeavors athletics just something to get them in a healthy environment and off the streets that's such a great point and uh always my 10 minutes go so quick with you thank you so much reagan charleston and tyrus on the brian this is jimmy phala inviting you to join me for fox across america where we'll discuss every single one of the democrats dumb ideas just kidding it's only a three-hour show listen live at noon eastern or get the podcast at foxacrossamerica.com From the Fox News Radio Studios in Midtown Manhattan, it's the fastest growing radio talk show. Briar. In Kill Mead. We saw a little division. Like, we need to do something about this desk.

My knees are killing me, Brian. They got to add at least a quarter of an inch. Please help a brother out. But speaking of brothers, as a tyrant, I'm in for the great Brian Kill Me today. And joining me right now, again, I've been lucky that I had Charlie Hurt, one of my favorite people.

I had Alan West on, one of my favorite people, and now I got Jason Chavez, one of my favorite people. And those of you who don't know who've been living under a rock, he's a Fox News contributor, former Utah congressman, former House Oversight Committee Chair, host of the Jason in the House podcast, and author of the new book, They're Coming for You: How Deep State Spies, NGOs, and Woke Corporations Plan to Push Out the Economy. And of course, you can check him out at JasonInthehouse. He's in the studio with us today. Oh, man, that's an impressive resume.

Thanks for reading it the way I wrote it. Yes, sir. I got it out of there. I'll be honest with you. The NGOs threw me off for a second.

I was like, he doesn't look light-skinned. All right, but, anyways. Mm-hmm. This always love your insight.

So The DC thing has been uh I it's probably the most one-sided argument. It's another one of those 80/20s, isn't it? It's like 90-20. 95-5, right? Exactly.

Let me play this for you. We'll just get right into it. Can you play number 14 for me? This doesn't make sense. You know what doesn't make sense.

The numbers on the ground in the district don't support a thousand people from other states coming to Washington, D.C. You know that. You know the facts on the ground don't support this. You know that. You know it couldn't be done in a neighboring state.

You know that. This is not about something that is fits into logic. You know that. What everybody in D.C. knows is that if you get off the mall, which would be between the Lincoln Memorial, the U.S.

Capitol, the White House, and the Jefferson, you get outside of that little diamond, it is dangerous. It is not safe. Everybody knows that. She's the one, Muriel Bowser, the mayor of Washington, D.C., she's the one that even said that they were 500 officers short of being able to do their job.

So the idea that Donald Trump is willing to authorize via Pam Bondi to get in there and have 1,000 people. offer safety and security. What's the harm? But what's the harm? Like what's the negative?

But the data doesn't represent the same data that has been proved that you guys and I always like to collect uh fudge the numbers. These are people's lives. You fudged the numbers? No, you you committed fraud of of the numbers. I mean, the only thing they can't they can't really hide is homicide because of the bodies.

Right. You know, but and again, I think DC was like a top five. Or something like or some uh ridiculous third world number. Like, I I just how do you make this argument? Shouldn't it be instead of you know that, shouldn't she replace that with thank you?

Yes, exactly. You're exactly right. And I haven't heard anybody as simple as that is saying, look, just say thank you. Because what does it hurt to have that many more law enforcement or people with guns, National Guardsmen? And like, what's the downside of that?

That people are going to feel safer. The reality is it's 8 o'clock at night. You want to go out and walk or walk your dog. You're not doing that. You're going out on a date, going out to dinner.

You know it's dangerous. And it doesn't need to be that way in our nation's capital.

So thank you, Mr. President. It would be most appropriate. You don't want to give him his shine, right? You want to then you maybe you use this during this time.

Of making the best of what I could think of a bad situation, is this when you would ramp up?

Now's a great time to join the police force. Yes. We want to get rid of the, you want to get the National Guard out. Let's get a thousand new recruits. Let's get 2,000 new recruits here.

Let's use this time instead of having ridiculous speeches where they're trying to be clever and Shakespearean. You know that. It's not a poem. These are people's lives. Use that to bulk up your police force.

Use that to tell your police chief you're going to have help for the next 30 days. And you know what? Let's, you know what, Mr. President? Let's do 30 days.

Let's give me 90 days so I can clean up this city. I would be thinking in those terms that I would use, I'm not going to vote if I was, obviously she's anti-Trump or whatever, but use it. For the people that you represent, it shouldn't be about you. I think that's the biggest thing that the biggest thing that drives me crazy is I see all these Asswa Wells and all these left-leaning politicians. It's always about them.

Shouldn't it be about the people?

Well, I think they would be smarter politically to join forces and say, Thank you. This is the kind of help that we need. And nobody's going to not vote for somebody by accepting more assistance and help. I think the crime goes hand in glove with the problem that they have in the schools because the truancy rate, the chronic absentee rate, is a direct. correlation to how unsafe it is in these schools.

And so they want to take out the law enforcement and the protectors within these schools. And when they have people they have some schools there where they are at zero proficiency in certain categories I think they go hand in glove. I think that poor kid who just wants to be a good student in the sixth grade, who doesn't feel safe, I think it I think this I think they fit together. I think you gotta have safety in order to get to the education. Education is power.

I don't remember, I think I was a kid, it was some book campaign. Reading is knowledge, knowledge is power. Right. When you are when you have good schools. And there's a thirst.

For knowledge from kids. Kids feel powerful coming home and explaining about the Nina, the Pina, and the Santa Marie. Like there's a power that's built there, and they continue to want to increase their knowledge. Just like when you put The wrong things in front of them. They continue.

So when there's not that there. you end up with, especially with young men. When you have an ignorant Young man who cannot communicate his words, or when he does speak, or worse, when he does read something, is mocked or giggled at. Yeah. Physically, he can do to be dominant, which is violence.

Young men, especially. When they don't have the ability to educate themselves, which is supposed to come from the education. You don't think things through, you react, and then you end up finding similar young men. With the same behavioral traits, and then amongst you, you fight out to see who's the leader, which is usually the dumbest and worst one. And then they go out and they do bad things to people because it is so important to have strong education, but the only way you reach these young men.

Is by showing them that their force is not enough, that they cannot, their way will not work because there are. A bigger min. And bigger Things around that will not tolerate that behavior. It is that simple, I think. Yeah, I don't think you can get to education and go through that door without the safety and security of knowing that once you go through that door on the other side, there's a safe way to do this.

And if you don't stimulate the intellectual curiosity and teach young people how to think and explore that intellectual curiosity, Then it gets dumbed down to a video game on Xbox and what these gang guys and these other guys are doing. And they're just sitting around smoking weed and doing who knows what. And then once your body starts to become an adult, then you have all those chemical imbalances going on and you don't have any good thought process.

Now they're gonna be, oh, you're saying, you're Tyrus, you're saying that the kids are stupid. Yeah, because we're failing them. That's because we're failing them. It's not a black and white thing. It's a book thing and an education.

So you need that strong support. Another thing is. Is this, would this be, I mentioned this early in the show. Yeah. Obviously, the parents are failing, and I think we have to start.

Calling it like we see it. If your parents are at the club, if your parents are more worried about their own personal lives than raising their children, that's a problem. And I remember when I was coming up. And some of my buddies and I, we did some dumb stuff. It wasn't anything big, I think we did a beer run.

Which still stealing. We stole a case of beer out of a thing, and one of our buddies wasn't that fast. He fell, he got caught. We didn't stop for him, right? Survival of the fittest.

He ended up having to go before a judge, and the judge gave him a choice. He can do three months in jail. Or he could join. The Army. And he chose to join the Army.

Wow. And he ended up having a pretty good career and became a grown-ass man in a short amount of time. Yeah. Now It doesn't always have to be the army, but you can do the time in jail. Uh you can join the Army or you're gonna go to a federal trade school.

Work camp where you'll learn to be a plumber, electrician, a carpenter, construction. You'll be your own businessman. You'll be your own guy by the time you're in your 20s, right? And you're going to do a little work. You're going to do some hard work.

You're going to learn what life is really like. And for, I think, men in particular, and because I think women are smarter when they're younger. And that's just my opinion. And girls would fit into this too. But.

I think if we had those kind of options. Since we dad's not coming. And mom's not present, even though she's there. We're taking What could be the worst of our society, and giving them the opportunity to be the best of our society in a short amount of time. Because college is knit right now.

College isn't for everyone. You know. No, and and For some, it is. Like, you want to become a doctor, you want to become a nurse, dentist, you better darn well go to school, you know. But.

And look, we hear a lot. Mike Rowe, he obviously talks about this a lot. There, I mean, The amount of money I pay the guy to help my air conditioning and my heating system I I know I'm putting his kids through college 'cause that that's he's making a lot of bank there. And he's got no student loan either. But you know, I say that with a smile on my face, but they offer a skill set and a service that the rest of us can't do.

You know, I was talking to in Utah. They were talking about automobiles, which are basically rolling computers at this point. And they were like, hey, you know, if we find somebody who's good and has an aptitude to this, we pay for their education. And then the starting salary when they come back, $120,000 to work at that Ford dealership. And if people knew these types of opportunities were there, Like, I love the book that you wrote.

I have touted this whether you're sitting in front of me or not sitting in front of me. Your life experience is very different than mine. And everybody's got their own story and their own experience. What I worry about, you know, when I was in Congress, I was chairman of the Oversight Committee. Most people don't realize this, but when it's chairman of the oversight committee, you also have jurisdiction over Washington, D.C.

And they joke about it. They say, Oh, you're the mayor of D.C. And I'm like, No, I'm not the mayor of D.C. They have a mayor, but you have to write herd on it.

So I'm very familiar with city, city operations. Education is one of the things. We spend more money per pupil on education. In Washington, D.C., than anywhere else in the country, and yet have. The lowest results.

Right. And Yet they pushed back on any time Congress wanted to offer more things like opportunity school scholarships. Which were opportunities for parents to have choices. They don't want to send their kids to a failing school, right? They want them to go to a private school or to something else.

And it shouldn't be just based on your zip code or your ability to pay. You should have those opportunities for. for somebody who doesn't have the ability to do that. Anyway, that's a whole nother story, but. It gets back to the heart of what you're talking about.

You got a lot of fatherless children. You got a lot of Are fathers that aren't at home, they're not fathers, and mothers who are, their kids are a check to them. Yeah. Let's just call it what it is. And that is a bigger problem than people let on.

There's a lot of bad moms out there. Yeah, there's bad moms and there's moms that are working two jobs just to pay the rent. Exactly. You know, so they're never home. You know, and then you have food deserts, right?

Where people can only go get food at a liquor store. And, you know, you can't live on Pop-Tarts. Although I've tried. I've been there. Yeah.

Top ramen, top ramen casserole in college. I've had a few of those. But they all go together. And but if you don't have that core, There's a book called The Law. Really short book.

But it talks about the core of government and what they should do. And you have to provide that layer of safety and security. That's what Donald Trump understands. And what's mystifying why a political leader like the mayor of DC would try to mock and be able to say, Oh, well, the numbers aren't there. Yeah, party before people, apparently.

Listen, we've got to take a short break and then we're going to come back because I want to get into this a little bit longer. All right, this has been Tyrus filling in for the Brian Kilmead show.

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Okay, so I read your extremely. Long. Cover of your book. Let's talk about it because I am interested. It is, they're coming for you.

Deep state spies, NGOs, and woke corporations plan to push out of the economy.

So, what is besides the very, I guess the title speaks for itself.

Well, but yeah, and it's a long one, but they're coming for you. The whole premise is that. Um we talked a lot about Doge and getting rid of the money and and highlighting the waste, fraud, and abuse. The next level up, if you will, is the data. And what is shocking is how much data is out there that your government collects but buys and sells.

And They do it in conjunction with Data Brokers, which is about a $450 billion a year industry at this point. They're taking everything from facial recognition, which they scrape off the internet.

So you sign up for Venmo, Facebook, Instagram, whatever. If they can see your picture, they're scraping that. They're putting that. Then they're matching it with other information. And this isn't so Tyrus can go find a cup of coffee easier.

They're using it in election manipulation, but they're really doing it to debank people, to put you, essentially give you a social credit score. And push you out of the economy.

So, for it, one of the examples is the left really doesn't like the meat and poultry industry. They think it's mean and evil, and that methane from cows is bad. And so, they de-bank people and they identify who they are. Then, they don't allow them to get the same sort of rates or even do business with a credit union or with a With a bank, and they do it because there's this score that they come up with, and that's what's scary. The book is just chock full of examples of how they're manipulating this data and.

I feel bad for young people because they're grabbing it as early as they possibly can in your life. But they're developing a profile of you that is so deep and so nefarious, and so, and most people are terribly naive to it.

So, if you're not with the program. You're going to struggle. Yeah, look, they debanked Melania and Baron Trump, right? And there are countless other people that have been debanked along the way. But, like, for instance, Denver Public Schools is one that we looked at, and they ask you a series of questions.

Well, if you don't hit the certain buzzwords, and then they compare that to your. your profile, they're not going to hire you.

Now you may think, oh gosh, I just didn't get the job, but that's because you were a conservative in your thought patterns. You weren't this liberal who and so we show the stats and the examples of this. Um and it's certainly used in manipulating elections. This is really bad stuff. Think of how much information the government has: social security, IRS.

Um, other types of benefit or welfare programs that you might have. Um Whether you've been arrested, incarcerated, all of these bits of information are combined with facial recognition and whatnot, that they then, through Executive Order 14019, March of when Joe Biden took office, they directed all the federal government, all of its physical facilities and people, to get out the vote. It wasn't get out the vote for everybody. It was get out the vote for their people. I used to get those messages.

And as soon as I said I was a black Republican, I wouldn't hear anything back. Is the book out? When's it come out? It's out. It's out.

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You're with Brian Kilmead. It is the fastest three hours in radio. And I'm excited for my next guest because. Uh I really think this is a funny, funny, talented dude. And I I would I would be characterized as saying that my sense of humor is jaded.

It takes a lot to make me laugh. And uh This guy, uh, every time he comes on the Gut Fill show, I am guaranteed for at least Three or four good laughs, and we both kind of have the class clown sitting in the back of the class mentality. Joining me is the great Adam Hunter. What it is, man. Good morning, man.

How are you? Good, man. Thanks for having me on your show. Or on Brian's show that you're filling in for.

Somebody's show. Thanks for it.

Somebody's show, and we're in it right now. It's our world.

So let's just deal with it. Great shirt, by the way. Oh, and I have the same one. I fill mine out a little more, but it's all good. It's all good.

And uh uh we're a couple of uh Dad, daughters here, or daughters, or dads of daughters. What's the accoutrement behind you? I feel like that's very daughter-esque. A daughter had her seventh birthday, and it was a Hello Kitty theme, my melody.

So my wife goes all out and uh I always seem to agree to the budget, but I never seem to remember that I agreed to the budget. Yes. But you agreed to the budget, but like, you know, like a couple of years ago, I was like, oh, you know, I need $4,000. You know, what'll be the theme? And I'm like, poverty.

But yeah. So I always seem to agree to this budget, but yeah.

So we had to, we went all out. And it's not a hard line budget, by the way. Oh no. Came out of nowhere, you know. Yeah, always gonna add another, and then they don't include tips for people or anything else that you're gonna, yeah, the budget is, and I don't know how you do it with four kids.

One kid kicks my ass. I don't know how you do it with four.

Well, here's the, here's the thing, and I got uh two stepsons, so six total. But uh, you know, what's funny is the only time the budget is a hard, unbreakable line, much like our border, uh, currently, is when it's our stuff. If you spend seventeen cents over the allotted budget, Of anything. For example, that wonderful shirt you have on, the Bret Hart shirt. Hawaii, I would argue, is.

If there was a uh we're going to play that game in a second, but a wrestling Mount Rushmore, he's online. I appreciate it. And uh And I always liked him, and he was always kind to me. But besides that, he was, as Gorilla Monsoon put, excellence of execution. Has there ever been a time where you've been allowed to slide?

and spend extra on yourself. Without lying. My wife's pretty good at that because she, I think she does that so that way she can then go, Oh, but you spent this.

So she's actually, but but but the thing is, is that I don't even we share, we share a bank account, which is great. My wife's look, we bought a house because of her. You know, like she's, I mean, because she said we should buy a house, not because she bought that, we bought the house together. I knew exactly where you're going with that, yeah. But but the problem is sometimes like when I open my account, it'll just say Amazon or it'll just say newly or it'll just so I don't even know what the actual expenses are.

I just And I think Amazon does it on purpose. I think it was designed by a woman. It was designed. Here's the thing.

So I'm a horse dad, also, right? Because my daughter jumps all over. And we were in. We were in Michigan last week, and you know those really cool massage chairs? Like they have all you like feet, fit your arms and your hands and stuff.

And I was always too big, weight-wise, to be in one of them.

Now I'm not. Right? Height-wise, it's still a little rough at 6'8. But I walked by it and my back was k killing me and She said, Hey, you should try it. And I just thought to myself, Wow, that was really caring.

And then I got in it and I fitted it, and it was phenomenal. And she's like, You should buy one. And I was like, And of course, the dealer was like, oh my God, yes, Tyrus, you should buy one. And I was like, yeah. She's like, you know what?

You should maybe even get one for your office. Like that way, so because you're on the road so much and you could, you know, these things are like 15 grand, bro. And I'm sitting there and the dealer's looking, I'll run up the paperwork for you and we'll hook you up. And I was waiting, as soon as she walked away, I leaned forward and I was like, what is she up to? You're a married guy, right?

He's like, yeah. I said, has your wife ever? came up to you and said You go ahead and buy this, knowing that this thing's at least, you know, over $10,000. And he was like. No, I can't say that she has.

And I just sat there and I was like, What did she buy? And as soon as I got out of that chair, I took the papers because I got her to co-sign on it that I could get them.

So I'm going to get it. Right? Not to. That's ridiculous. But I went right up to her and I was like, what did you buy?

And she looked at me with a big sponsor, what are you talking about? I said, you've never. Ever. I want to buy a hat and a pair of Jordans, and I'll hear like, you have enough. You know what I'm saying?

So I still have it, has not revealed. The Sith Lord has not revealed itself yet, but I know it's something. There was a time that I used to be in therapy. I mean, it's gotten a lot better, but I used to be in therapy, and I would just open up my app, my Chase app. And just read the expenses.

And that was my therapy session. I was so angry about all the stuff we were spending. It's just this, that. And then my therapist is like, are you, is this, do you feel better? And I'm like, yes, yes, this is actually helping.

Just, you know. Speaking of helping, you're doing, and you don't need me to tell you this, but you're doing a phenomenal job on the Gutfell show. You've been great as a team member, and I enjoy the hell out of your comedy. Like, you crack me up. I like it when you always push the envelope.

Like, you're one of those guys where you will push the wall and you're unafraid to be funny. And given That was something that was a career killer up until very recently. How have you been able to because you're on? I went back and looked at some of your old stuff. You really haven't changed.

What is that about? Because a lot of guys would change to make the paycheck. I mean I've always been more like a live comic, just a live comedian.

So that really, you know, as much as people wanted to say can see cancel culture exists, it never really existed at the show. Maybe sometimes getting to the show, getting the guy to book you, oh, you're too dirty for this. But once you're there, the audience is like, thank you. Like, we can't hear anything on TV. We can't have, thank you for actually not caving in.

I got way more than that than the person that walked out. And you get the people that walk out too. But the UFC saved my ass because Dana White. Um, a couple years ago, I mean, I was always writing for the MMA awards, like all the UFC awards, writing the sketches, and me and Dana got along really well. And Dana was like, I want you to work for the UFC where you roast fighters, but you don't tell anybody.

So I would make videos for them for like every month, like promos, three, four years. And then he produced my comedy special at the Apex. And then I had. Like A show where I had pitched people to, you know, fighters to tell jokes, and I would teach them.

So that I was sort of like the UFC comic for a while, you know.

So, so that helped. And I mean, and then Gutfell was the first show that I couldn't believe it. I remember the first time I did it, I was like, Man, thanks for allowing giving comics a platform to actually. Be comics. And he's like, dude, he goes, he goes, we've been, this is years ago.

He's like, we've been. They tried to cancel me so many times, they've just given up basically. And I couldn't believe it. I couldn't believe what I was hearing on Greg's show. And then I think they were a little nervous that I actually was too edgy for the show.

So I would always have to submit my jokes beforehand. Hey, I'm going to say this, that. And then the producer would be like, okay, this is, you could say, this is good. This might not be this. And then all of a sudden, Uh, one of the writers got uh had to go through surgery, and in January, they were like, Hey, how would you like to write for the show?

I'm like, So, so I've been doing that since January, pretty much supposed to be like a three-day thing, and it's been every day since.

So, I don't know if people know this, but like every day we get, you know, the night before, this about. 15 pages almost like A hundred articles with links to everything. And then I just comb through them. And I'm like, okay, what's funny here? And a lot of times.

The joke will be in the head, but a lot of times I have to read it. Most of the time I have to read the articles because the joke's halfway down or third hour.

Someone makes a crazy quote that you're like, I can't believe it. And then it's just, and then you have to know, okay, Greg is going to. Pretty much only say this joke if it's a line or two. Like, I have to get this down to like two sentences. And then I have to give him choices.

You have to get because he wants to be the guy to pick the joke.

So I got to give him four different ways he could say the joke, to which he still. Picks the joke, you know, like it's still. But um but he uh He's I am so blown away, like you say, me, by how good you guys are. You, Greg, Kat, Mackie, DeVito, Sean, all the other Daniel, all the other writers, because there's only about six people there. Right.

Oh, and just so you know, I am not a writer. And I don't participate. in any of the meetings. And I don't, nobody writes jokes for me. I do absolutely nothing.

Most of the time in my office, I'm playing Fortnite with my son. My thing is, I'm just being, I just, I'm a gunslinger. Like, I never know what I'm going to say until I'll say it. Like, I read everything. But I'll be like, if it hits me, because my job on the show is, I'm the anchor, right?

If, and it happens very rarely if somebody's drowning. It doesn't happen much, but every once in a while somebody will, and my job is to throw up. No, I mean, you hear it. You hear it on the even on the monologue sometimes, like you'll chime in on a joke that goes, it'll be a joke that's like. Like, he'll say a joke, and it could go, and you're getting a laugh, you're getting a little laugh, and then you come up with something, and then boom, you know, which is like well, because sometimes our audience.

Isn't Reflective of our television audience, right?

So, and a lot of times, because I love about you is that you will joke about anyone or anybody. And the racism stuff does not scare you at all. Like you make a joke, and sometimes our audience is afraid to laugh because they're caught up in that, whatever that white guilt BS is. And I'll be the first, like, I will laugh extra loud and be like, no, no, that's a good one. We're good with that.

Trust me, you can laugh, relax. You know, we get that sometimes. And I always tell you because you're like, I think one time you said, hey, you think that's so? I said, no, no, you have to understand. The audience at home is laughing their butts off because no one's watching them.

The audience in the building, when you make a joke, About whatever it is, and if it's about somebody of color or whatever, they will look at each other first: like, is it is it? Can I go? You go, I go. And you're like, oh, I'm like, no, bro, that's money. But and also, the audience is like, people don't realize there's about 40 people in the crowd.

And it's 40 people from Nebraska that are in New York for the first time. That this is like their big, they're going to the Gutfeld show. They're not necessarily like, you know, they're not on like, because there was one comic that was doing. He was doing funny stuff, but he was his references were just too cool for the room. Yeah, they're like, huh?

Yeah, that happened. And I told him, I called him, he's a buddy of mine. I said, hey, man, your jokes were funny, but you have to explain them a little better. You were just doing the punchlines and expecting them like these were kind of Twitter jokes that happened two days ago. These are people that like, you know, they may work.

It's free and they sign up and a lot of people make their vacation to New York. And when you get a free show, and I think our state, I think our studio holds a 75. And you'll have them, but every once in a while, you'll have some hipsters or whatever. But. Funny is funny.

And uh Sometimes their reaction to the crowd also is a lot of times when people are in studios, they think they're going to be on camera. You know what I'm saying? They think they're part of the show.

Some of that's wrestling's fault. Where they think, you know, they're the universe and they're paying so close attention to where they don't want to laugh because they don't want someone at home seeing them laugh at off the cover, off the A joke because a lot of times, you know, and some of Greg, his jokes, uh, Sometimes, if you make a woman joke or whatever the hell it is, you know, it's it's a joke. But they'll be like, oh no, I don't wanna people to see me on camera laughing at that because they they fear, and again, you can't be canceled if you don't sign up. I love that. That's what Denzel said, right?

Yeah, yeah. Denzel said it was the perfect thing. And I was like, he's right. Like, if you just keep going, and I mean, I can't tell you how many times there's been. Cancels out on me, and I'm like, Look, man, I got too many kids to to give a damn.

And if I you know, and then you move on. But one of the and again, I I think one day you could run for office because you're friends with everybody. Uh, you get along with everybody. And y your connections are crazy. UFC, uh Fox, and then you're you're you're a true wrestling fan.

And while I still have you on here, so you're rocking the Bret Hart thing, and. I always thought Bret Hart was one of the greatest champions because he did it. from the ground up. Like I can remember watching him when he was wearing the brown singlet, you know, and it was like him and Night Hart weren't even a tag team yet. And then they were a tag team.

And then they got slowly with Jimmy Hart. And then they were this amazing tag team. And then he went singles. And the whole time, he was the one guy That they would go The crowd was going crazy, not because of the promo. Not even because of the look, because of the work in the ring.

And I think that's what makes him different than, say, a Ric Flair. And again, I'm not taking anything away from Ric Flair, but from a Ric Flair or some of the other guys, where, or even Hogan, rest his soul. And Goldberg was intensity, period. It was just intensity. He looked the part.

But he was the guy. It was the work. You never knew. I think one of the coolest things, I think the greatest match that I've ever seen was Kurt Henning and Brett Hart and SummerSlam, where Henning dropped the leg on him and he turned it into the sharpshooter. I can tell you that was done in my backyard for months.

My poor brother. I'm surprised he did have leg problems or whatever. I could talk wrestling with you all day, but real quick, would you support me in making that argument about Brett? Oh, 100%. I mean, Bret Hurt, he didn't, he was the only guy where he lived the gimmick.

It wasn't like they just gave him a character. Like that was him. Exactly. Grillimon Soon, better. He was the best or what was the excellence of execution.

Which, when my kids hear me say that, because Grilla Monsoon was basically my pseudo-dad growing up. If I say excellence of execution, my kids know they're having a good day. And if I was, you know, fountain of misinformation, like, oh man, dad's mad. But for. For you, real quick, because we only got like 30 seconds.

Give me your top five all time. It doesn't have to be a number, just five.

Okay, I would say the guys that I liked the best were Jake the Snake.

Okay, no one did promise. Bret Bret Hart, uh Roddy Piper. Um Then uh 15 seconds.

Okay. Ugh, this is hard. I mean Demolition? Demolition? Hey, they're great.

The superstar and crush, they have great characters. I'm with you. That's an excellent list, and that's why Adam Hunter is the man. And of course, make sure you check him out wherever his comedy shows are. And you can check him out on Twitter at Adam Hunter.

And again, belated happy birthday to your daughter. This has been Tyrus on The Kill Meat Show. Your With Brian Kill Me. Hey, I'm Trey Gowdy, host of the Trey Goutde podcast. I hope you will join me every Tuesday and Thursday as we navigate life together and hopefully find ourselves a little bit better on the other side.

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All right, this has been a roller coaster ride. I'm always appreciative when Brian makes the call and I get a chance to come on and do radio. It's really my favorite thing. Thing to do, believe it or not, because as my wife would tell me, I have a face for radio. But the Brian Kilmead show team is always fun, and I like getting in the war room where we try to figure out what exactly it is we're going to do.

And then, of course, it goes left real quick. But that's. Kind of how we do what we do, but we talked about a lot today, and uh, I really uh Love the fact that we are in a time where common sense means something. And one of the critics, again, that we talked about said that the president talks at a sixth grade level. And I have sixth graders, and they're brilliant.

So playing talk and understanding, everyone understands whether you are a line cook, whether you are a scientist. It is great to have a clear and strong message and give that man that Nobel Prize prize now. He's earned it. He earned it eight years ago. He's earning it again.

And that man is our president, President Trump. And again, thank you, Brian. Thank you, team, for having me on. This has been Tyrus on the Brian Kilmead Show. Enough said.