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It's something they've done before, 94 on the men's side and with the women's side. Joining us now is Fox Sports' two premier analysts, Alexi Lollis and Carly Lloyd. They want to also note that the Gold Cup is out. Although, Carly, you're going to be doing something with the European League, Europe, Euro Cup, right? I am.
I might have a little crossover towards the end of the Gold Cup, but we'll be back. And ultimately, that'll be Alexi's decision, whether you're allowed to come in late. Yeah, I guess whether I butter them up enough or as are most things, they're my decision. Men's, women's, co-ed naked, it doesn't matter. If somebody is kicking a ball, I will be there.
Carly Lloyd will be there. Fox will be there. Right, and you will be there. And by the way, is there a co-ed naked?
Soccer means we see what FIFA does in the name of the Almighty Dollar. Maybe you could start one. You could start it. I'll watch that. You kidding me?
I'll tell you what. Ratings Bonanza. Just how do you get the sponsors on the uniform if it's co-ed naked soccer? I can get crazy. They paint it on.
Oh, you painted on. Henna. Henna tattoos. Beautiful. All right.
So you got the Gold Cup coming up very shortly, right? The Gold Cup is something played in this region. Haiti. Tobago, tobago. All right, right.
Could we win those games? Not only could we. Can we? We should win those games. Games.
We have won the Gold Cup before. And for those that don't know, the Gold Cup is our region.
So North America and the Caribbean and the champions of our region. We, as the United States, have been the champions of our region. Obviously, from a men's perspective, we're trying to be champions of the world. That comes next summer in the World Cup. But this summer on Fox, you can see the Gold Cup.
And it's a prelude to what's coming next summer. And I think it's really, really important because right now, there's not only criticism of this current U.S. men's national team, but I think even more dangerously, there is. Apathy towards this team. And a year to go, we should be flying forward in terms of our momentum and positive momentum, getting ready for the biggest World Cup in history.
I think the greatest World Cup in history. I think the greatest event in history that's coming next summer. And yet, like I said, there's a lot of people with some angst out there relative to this team. The results recently haven't been good, so they better get their you-know-what together starting in this Gold Cup this summer.
So I know they lost to Turkey on Saturday, Carly. A lot of people just say, who aren't experts like you guys, who say, Well, they win or lose that. You'll tell me by the result how they played.
Sometimes you can play really well, you're just missing that last piece. Is there a sense that with a new coach, this is just part of a process and that they're just not gelling yet? Or do you think they played well and were unlucky against these last three games? I think it's a patience problem. I think that everybody has been patient.
When we look at the results and the way that they played at the 2022 Qatar World Cup, it was great. It was promising. And you talk about this young generation. And the generational talent that the squad has. And so I think the expectations from 2022, we're now in the year 2025.
It's almost gotten worse. And, you know, under the you know, the the the era of the previous coach, you know. I think people were expecting Pochitino to come in and then all of a sudden, they're going to be flying and they're going to be producing results. I think it's one thing to dissect a team when the results aren't there. But But all the other stuff, the controllable aspects of the mentality and the grit, the determination, I think that American fans were really not seeing that.
We're really not sold on the fact that these players, do they care? Do they want to come in and represent their country? And do they want to win? I think everybody can say they want to win. But it's sort of the similarities between the men and women's team, Women's World Cup in 2023.
Emma Hayes has come in and she's transformed this team. And so I think everybody's kind of been expecting that. We're not getting that. And here we are a year out from the World Cup. And they got to get their butts in shape.
Off the top of your head, how many international players do we have playing at a high level overseas? We got a bunch of players that are over there, and not the least of which is Christian Pulissic, who chose not to play with the national team from Pennsylvania this summer. Which, by the way, why not? He thinks he needs rest. And I can give him some grace.
But he's captain. Exactly.
So. Look, rest, I understand when players say they need rest. Last time I was 100%, I was 10 years old.
Okay? And I think. You got to read the room.
So I think it's a bad look for Christian Pulissic. I think it's a bad look for his agent. I think it's a bad look for the U.S. national team. In this particular moment, when we're talking about these things and some real doubt is being sown relative to the chances of this team doing things great next summer, you come in and you.
Reignite or ignite and send us in a much more positive way. He's chosen not to do that. Fine.
Now the onus is on him for when he comes back, because no excuses anymore, to be the great player that I think he can be and star next summer when it comes to the World Cup. Carly, what do you think of the level of play in the MLS? And do you feel as though if you're an elite player and you play in the MLS, are you not doing the best you can to get better? Can you reach your potential in the MLS? I agree.
I mean, I think that it. Do you think I can? I don't even know the answer. Do you think so? I think that it comes from within, right?
And I think as long as. Players are playing. I mean, you look at a player like Gio right now, he hasn't been playing.
So we keep calling him into camps, but he's not playing for his club.
So it's like, you know. Go to a team. You're going to play. And I look at, you know, back when Alexi played, I mean, it was all MLS. Those guys were crushing it, killing it, playing well in the 94 World Cup.
And then we went from an era, I feel like, around Klinsman time where it's like, all right, we only want to choose players that are playing overseas. That was his mindset. He would send American players overseas to play.
So we've gone from one extreme to the other. And now you've got all these players that are playing overseas. But if you take a deep dive into the actual players that are actually playing and producing and doing well, there's not that many of them.
So. I think we've got to broaden the player pool and start digging into some of these MLS players and get the best, most passionate players out on the field. The players that play. It's less where you play and it's much more who you are. When myself and guys like Kobe Jones stepped on the field in 1994, not only was there no MLS, but neither of us had ever even been on the books of a club team.
All we did was play with the national team, and yet we were able to go out there and do the job. Years later, 2002, the farthest we've ever gotten is a men's team, but a handball away from possibly going to a semifinal. You look at the likes of Landon Donovan, Demarcus Beasley, Pablo Mastriani. These are all MLS players. Frankie Haydek, Eddie Pope.
The list goes on and on and on.
So really, it's a load of crap where you actually play. Do I want players playing at the highest level? Sure. But it doesn't mean that if they're playing in MLS and you have the perception that that's not the highest level, that that person can't play. At this point, I don't give a crap where you're.
Play. I just care that you can do the job. And unfortunately, we don't have enough players that can do the job right now. You know, it's so interesting. You guys play at the highest level, and you're talking like something that.
I guess maybe, in a way, it's kind of gratifying, a college or high school coach. We got to play with more passion. We've got to play harder. I'm thinking to myself, well, when you get to your level as a player, it's not a matter of playing hard. You got to think the game.
You got to be smart. You got to be quicker. But you're saying that it goes down to fundamental passion to play. Yeah. I mean, you know, when I look at the history of the U.S.
women's national team over the years, yes, we won. But there was a type of pride and passion that we played with, as well as Alexei and all of the other old schoolers, if you want to call them, back when they played on the men's national team. And in 2011, we lost in the final against Japan. We came home. I remember, you know, we thought we were a failure.
Yes, we made it to the World Cup final. We lost in PKs. We came home and we captivated America by the way that we played. And from that point on, from 2011 all the way to 2015. Everybody was hooked because of that passion, because of that drive and that desire to play.
And that's what Americans are looking for now. You know, we can deal with maybe the results aren't there or they don't win every single game. That's not the expectation, but the expectation is to actually come out and act like you care. In case you don't remember, Carly Lloyd, for people to follow, we own all new about Carly Lloyd. But when you scored your hat-trick against Japan in the World Cup final, this is how it sounded: Cut 45.
Rapina's driven ball in towards Lord. What a start for the United States. Charlie Lyd, the captain. Lauren Holiday will take this free kick. Flick from Johnston.
And it's turned in for a second. It's Carly Lloyd again. Yeah. And here they come again, the long-range effort from Leida! Oh my goodness!
It's a hat-trick. With one of the most incredible goals you'll ever lay. Yeah. What are your thoughts? Can you see these goals in your head still clearly?
I never forget that moment. I remember what the weather was like. I remember there was smoke in the stadium from fires that were going on. Yeah, that moment will live on with me forever. It was incredible.
But did you know you were going to have a great game by the way you felt before the game? Um I mean, I believed it, but I think I just went back into the present moment. We were all, the whole team, there was just a different vibe with how we were all feeling the day before our training, you know, that training session that we had the day before the game. And everybody was loose and we were, you know, smiling and enjoying each other. And I think we all believed that we were going to go in there and we were going to attack them and we were going to come away with a win.
But, you know, it was like a day in the park with my friends. That's the type of game that it felt. There was almost not pressure there, but it was one of the biggest games of our lives. And you were captain of the team at the time, too.
So a lot of responsibility to get revenge, correct? Yeah. I mean, I was, Christy Rampone was our true captain who was on the bench. Abby Wambach was the next one in line. And then I was there, you know, so I had the honor of kind of wearing the armband.
And then it was a cool moment when Christy Rampone came on. New Jersey.
Well, actually, Abby Wambach came on the field. I gave her the armband, and then Christy. Ram Pohn came on and then she gave her the armband.
So the true captain ended up with the armband. Were you on that broadcast? Yeah. I mean, I was sitting there, tears streaming down my face, excited about what it was. It was also, from a time zone perspective, perfect.
And still to this day, that final is the most watched American soccer game in history. And it was because of what Carly said. You know, these were people. That you wanted to follow. These were people that gave you a sense of pride in your country and what they were doing.
Yes, the results, but the way in which they got the results were even more important. And that gets back to a point right now. I can't tell you the amount of people that have come up to me and said, I'll take a less talented U.S. men's national team now if they just play like you guys did. If they just do it.
And look, I'm not trying to grumpy old man this thing, but it's kind of like when the Supreme Court tried to define obscenity, right? I can't tell you what it is, but I know it when I see it. And we know it when we see it. There's something that you, there's a smell that I'm not. I want to know that the players care more than me.
Exactly.
That's it. Every time I watch a game or a team with sport, I want to know what matters more than me because then I feel like I'm being a sucker. If I care more about it and I paid to watch, that bothers me or I gave up my nuts. That's the crime and shame right now is that we are questioning whether they care. And I never thought that we would get to a point, especially a year away from the world.
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