Tony Busby, the lawyer, came out. He's got 120 names. He's like, I've got so many celebrities I'm going to drop.
I've got huge minds. Then he went after Jay-Z, and that did not work out well for him. Jay-Z turned around and counter-punched him right in the mouth, and he dropped it. That guy's no longer allowed. He didn't realize he wasn't allowed to practice in New York, so he's gone. All these big names we thought we... The only big name we've heard is Michael B. Jordan, and that's not for tending any freak-offs. That's from when Cassie Ventura, the main witness here, and Diddy's ex-girlfriend, you know, when she was broken up with him, she took off, and she got to meet Michael B. Jordan, and they started chit-chatting a little bit.
That's the only name we've heard. So that is Billy Bush weighing in on the Hollywood situation, which is the P. Diddy trial taking place in New York, which has been... It's going to go another week with the prosecution, then defense, and we're hearing about these freak-offs and these crazy things and the abuse of women. But is he going to be guilty, and what is he going to be guilty of? Are they overcharging?
Are they organized in their prosecution? And what about this life? Tyrus joins us now, Fox Nation host, author of a book Nuff said, best-selling author should, and host of Maintaining with Tyrus, which is on Outkick. Tyrus, great to see you.
Always a pleasure. So, do you know who I'm interviewing today? Me.
Oh, that's true. Yeah. He's a very good answer.
Thank you. Suge Knight, from prison. You're going to talk to Suge Knight from prison? So, I want to talk about this Diddy trial, and the fact that one thing did come out, surprise me, maybe not you, is that they were going to try to kill him. The word was that he was in a diner, and according to one of the women who claimed to be abused and seems to be authentic, she said they found out, everything got dropped as soon as they found out that Suge Knight was eating in a diner. And they got about eight guys and guns, and they went to a diner, and he was gone. So, he also has opinions, and I guess they have this huge rivalry going on. Well, those of us who were, I was bouncing clubs during that time, and chasing football, so I had a few interactions with Suge back in the day, and he wasn't as big as he thought he was.
I'll leave it at that. But he tried to get to Snoop, right? He tried to get to Snoop.
Who he signed. I'll tell you one story. We were in New Orleans, and Snoop was out there to support concert. It was me, him, and his wife. It was just me as the bodyguard, and then we always had a brother by the name of Al.
He's about your height, and you'd never see him unless you made a mistake. He was a decorated detective who was retired and working. Everybody was there, and Snoop was making his rounds, saying hello to everybody, and lo and behold, Suge Knight showed up in the walkway of the arena. Should we also say that Death Row Records signed Snoop and claimed to have discovered him? Yeah.
I think Snoop was coming up, and I think it was him and Warren G. were young, and I think a lot of people want to take credit for discovering him. Bullying him? Sure. Intimidating him?
A thousand percent. Snoop was young. He's got a lot of wisdom now, but when you're young and trying to come up and basically starting with nothing, you probably sign a lot of contracts. It's a rough crowd you're dealing with. Yeah, it's a rough crowd, and Snoop was never that guy. He never was like that.
He's always been very humble, very family man-oriented guy, so he didn't fit in with that lifestyle, so it would be tough for him. Suge was attempting to bully him and shake down because there have been many stories about him shaking down artists, messing with Casey and JoJo, usually little guys. Vanilla Ice, too. Yeah, Vanilla Ice.
That story is well-known. But on this day, he tried to roll up on Snoop, and my job is to not allow that to happen. I would not hit until I was given the okay, but I was in position to just walk right up on him face-to-face. Well, actually chest-to-face. So you're that much bigger than him? Yeah, he comes up to my nose maybe. 6'4". And I was ready to do what I needed to do, and I'm not talking.
That's not my job. It's just if you make a move, and he started, assuming he came to talk to me about something with music, but all he could come up with was that he wanted to help and donate on the youth football team. Really?
Yeah. And Snoop said, nah, we're good. And then he was like, hey, can you do something with this guy? And he's like, nah, he's got a mind of his own. So it was very cordial, respectful. And then him and his lackey, they went their way, and we went ours. Do you worry about guns after that?
Because that's the great equalizer, right? I can't beat this guy, but I can shoot this guy. I'm not worried about guns, because I knew Al was just hanging in the corner, and that would be the last mistake they made. You can't, when you're bodyguarding, if you're going to choose that path, if you're afraid of things like that, you really shouldn't.
You can't do it. And you'll find out real quick if you have it or not. And there were some situations in bodyguarding with Snoop, like when we were in, I think it was, we were on a Russia tour of Croatia area, and a guy wanted to come into VIP, and he opened his jacket, and he had a.45, and I still wouldn't let him in. And I remember some guys in the band going, what are you doing? You could have got shot. You should have just let him in. And I was like, what do you think my job is? Besides me making jokes in the bus and stuff, but what do you think my job is? And sometimes you don't understand that.
Most bodyguards never have to be in situations like that, but it's always there. So let me ask you, the mindset. I like to get his opinion. Evidently he said, I don't even know we're rivals.
I don't want to see him go to jail because of his kids. That's what he's quoted as saying on one of the other channels. But these guys seem to have a long rivalry. There was this thing, and I remember, I think they were doing a thing with Bobby Brown making a comeback, and I think he was signed with Ja Rule or something like that, and he was going to do a video on the stage. All We Need Is A Stage, I think, was a song, and they were going to do it on Capitol Records in LA. And for a while, he had this thing where you had to pay a tax to shoot music videos in LA and stuff. And Diddy was out there, and Diddy was actually trying to get into the club, but we had no smoking rule in the VIP, and I wouldn't let him in.
And I remember his people were like this, and I remember looking at him going, man. And my buddy was like, how don't you like him so much? I said, because he's got baby teeth. Never trust a guy with baby teeth. He's got dolphin teeth, whatever you want to call it.
Really? Yeah, I just didn't like him. I didn't like him. And he kept like, you know who I am? And all that stuff. And I'm like, I don't care. And his bodyguard wasn't big enough.
So there was, I never had much use for him. Did you know this behavior? I mean, we're watching it.
Besides the applesauce on hamburgers, did you know how abhorrent what was going on over there? You know, because you just don't, when you don't involve yourself in those situations, you know, you never, I would never allow, not that Snoop would ever want to be a part of anything like that, but I would never allow him to be in that situation, any one of my clients. We've been at, I remember Paris Hilton had a party at the Playboy Mansion or the Playboy thing and we went, brought Snoop there. He was an invited guest and it was Fonzworth and all these celebrities and stuff. And then around midnight, it started to get weird. A bunch of dudes dressed up like Playboy bunnies started coming out. I looked at Snoop like, you ready? And he laughed.
He said, let's go. So, I mean, it was always, I never allowed him to be in that situation because I think bodyguards that come forward and tell you had an opportunity there. You're still a man. You still know what the laws are. And if your client is doing something wrong, you being just going with it is just as bad.
If you see a bad act, if your client is being horrible or physically abusive to women and you just stand there because of a job, shame on you. And so you have to consider a lot of the sources that are talking is, you know, the racketeering. So should I not believe a lot? Should we all not believe a lot what we're reading?
I think you should consider the sources. I'm not, by no means am I taking up for Diddy at all. I personally despise the man. But I also think that when you have people who have shady pasts as well are all willing to come forward, but they always kind of leave out their part in it. I think you have to take it with a grain of salt. I'm a little concerned because what we're what the public is getting caught up with is apparently he was a horrible boyfriend.
Horrible. I don't know if that's against the law. You know, extortion.
But they're trying to put a racketeering case together. And I think that's where it's getting a little you keep hearing these horrible stories of what he's done to people. But and then you have to ask the question. And again, you hate saying this because everybody should be heard. Everyone should be heard.
A man, woman, whatever. They said something has been wrong to them by somebody else. But then you have to ask the question is, why did you keep going back?
Why did you, you know, you know, like you have to ask those questions. And it's and, you know, they do. Do you say they have psychologists up there to say it's a cycle of abuse that you feel like on some level you deserve it?
Or some feel as though they they're going to he's going to go, she's going to find he's going to find her. Yeah. But how do you prove that in court? I guess that question is like because they're going to say, oh, no, look at this text. Look at this.
She was a Willie. You know, and again, they are. Yeah.
And they are. And that's where the thing is, like it becomes a great it's a tough call for a juror. I have a question for you, especially reading your story with you, a really tough, challenging upbringing. And I'm looking at Suge Knight and I'm just, OK, I don't I got to find out about his back story. This guy was a two sports star in football and in track. So you know how much dedication, you know, this dedication to track, you can't just wing it, you know, so you're running and then he's playing football at UNLV. So he's got to be a top pro.
You know, you got to be around your age. I am. So. So he's a football player at UNLV scholarship.
And then how do you end up extremely intelligent? It's true. Brothers smart, borderline genius. And actually, there was I was originally up to play him in the NWA movie. I was down meeting the other guy.
Yeah. And then there was a movie that was in production called Lions and Lambs, which was basically an autobiography of Suge Knight. How he rose to power.
And I was cast in that. Basically, the bottom ended up falling out. I think when the dude got run over by the truck or whatever, they decided to move away, which brings me to the how do you go to prison and then be out for a year or two and then run over some of the truck? Yeah, just I mean, how could you. But in doing background to learn about his character and stuff like that. And and it was like he had a lot of people that supported him. He's he's he he seeked out the life of crime. Yeah, he didn't need it.
It's not like that. He had not didn't need it, I think, which is which is sad because a brother like Suge Knight, if he had put his resources in intimidating and strong holding into just being, he probably would be he probably would be in some form of leadership right now in this in this country. He had that type of appeal, but he was a mass manipulator and he was more concerned with controlling people and being, quote, the gangster. We used to call him a studio gangster because he usually was just being a gangster in Hollywood, which is a safe place.
And the most dangerous thing about Suge was not shook. It was the young young brothers that he had filled their heads with delusions of grandeur. Those are the guys who would shoot you shoot at you.
Those are the guys who would attack you because I think they're earning stripes for him. So he was very good about always he was very clever about always keeping his hands clean. So Snoop bought death row record. Right. Yeah. And now Suge Knight wants to kill him again. I you know, I mean, when you're on he's in for life, I believe he's got 28 years or something. He's got he could get he get paroled in another seven.
Yeah. And he's not in a great health. I don't know if he has the pull.
I don't know, because usually you have to have money and things like that to still do those things. So, I mean, if he's still making threats, it makes sense. But Snoop has a great security team.
And I think if you are making threats from from the penitentiary, that's definitely going to affect your parole. So, you know, and he can't show likes to finer things in life. So this has probably been a real, real hard.
It's been real hard for him in there. I've heard some stories. I was supposed to meet with him to talk about the movie and stuff. And then at the last minute when things fell through and I decided to step back because it was getting a little a little choppy. So it was interesting. We were all set to do this. Right.
Took like two months. So we're all set to do it. And all of a sudden yesterday we got a call. He needs to get paid. Yeah. A thousand percent. Yeah.
He's going to try to shake you down. So we said, no, we don't pay people. No. So he goes, I'll do it.
Yeah, of course he does, because no one's listening to him. Right. Yeah. Because back in the day, he could the media would pay him two thousand dollars or whatever the hell for his story. Now he's like, you know, but he's always that's how you know, when someone's not rehabilitated, is they're still doing the same thing.
They got their ass put in there in the first place. And so he's still trying to work the angle. Right. You know, let's just say this. If you if a parole officer is listening to us right now, let's just say his people ask.
Maybe he's, you know what? I don't. Here's the thing. The this is the perfect you are the perfect guy to do this interview. Because you are you have worked with with some of the greats. And you know, you know B.S. when you see it and you're not afraid to call it out.
So this is going to be a very and you can't talk slick to oil can. There's nothing he can say to you that you have not seen or heard. And I'm just curious to when you know, he's going taking you down the rabbit hole if you're gonna be like, hey, Trixin for kids, man, I don't play bunny games. Right. I'm going to use him as an expert in the day trial, which has got worldwide interest.
And I also want to find out the mindset of a guy that goes to prison, is out for a year, feels freedom, maybe right. And next thing you know, he's taking his car and running over a rival. Yeah.
I mean, how the hell? How can you be a genius on one hand? But again, understand that him and Diddy were rivals. And you can't expect anything he says to be anything but that about Diddy. Still? Yeah, still.
No, because there's still that war, you know. How did he get so much money? Diddy, I mean, he's not a good rapper, right? No, no, Diddy had people right for him. Biggie Smalls is the key to everything that he has.
And I believe that they kept the library and they kept the publishing. I'm not sure about I don't know how much of what Chris Wallace's family got, but he built an empire off of he was that phenomenon that is Biggie's. But now we're hearing all kinds of stuff that apparently that the whole Biggie identity was a guy in Alabama. The Big Papa song was, you know, so like they took songs and did this or whatever. So but as far as storytelling and performing goes, Biggie was one of the best. You know, and then you have on the other side of the West Coast, you had the Tupac situation. So the two of them know a lot about what happened in that situation. Sure. So it'll be interesting to see who says what.
But again, understand you have one person who's in for pretty much doing very similar things is going to give you his insight on the other guy. A couple more minutes with Tyrus. By the way, he doesn't need notes.
This is life experience for him. I got like 20 pages of notes. I did.
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You got it. Yeah, I saw them last night. What I love they do on gut felt. They put them underneath you. Yeah. So you don't necessarily refer, but people can see where to see you on stage, which goes on.
I mean, it is the ultimate entrepreneurial effort. And do you know when your next going to be up? I got a little break. We start the tour kicks off July 7th in Traverse City, Michigan. And then it's all in Michigan, Nebraska, Kansas, Texas. A lot of Texas, man. When I'm Texas out, Alabama, I'm sorry.
No one needs to hear the music. I like the world is mine. You know, Alabama, Florida, Alabama, Ohio, Kansas City, South Carolina.
List goes on and on. Oregon, like I'm all over going to be all this kicks off in July. I'm going to make a lot of towns to see a lot of people. And you said that you find out now, like people don't necessarily show up because of the wrestling.
It's really no, I don't really talk about wrestling in politics. It's just about life and being funny and I got so much material on myself that I really have to go into it. It's a stand up comedy show. And, you know, there's a it's about having fun. And it's like in that Red Fox Don Rickles thing where nobody's safe. And that's a lot of fun. And and I never know what's going to happen. No show is really quite the same.
Right. So people are I get up people who go to a lot of different show. They come to it like three or four different shows. And they're like, how do you always have something different to talk about? I said, because I can't remember what I usually say on the last show. So and it's kind of write down stuff after you say it got fell because a lot of times you get into material.
Yeah, no. Most of my stuff that funny stuff comes off the top of my head. And if I think it's particularly funnier to me, which is I'm a very tough critic on myself, and I'll then I'll incorporate and hang on to the nice thing about having a photographic memory is remember that. Yeah. Oh, so it's not like it saves the worst thing. Fantastic. We were acting. Yeah, it's great because I one of the things that I've always gotten high praise for is I never need to forget my lines. He's Tyrus. Membership or subscribe wherever you get your podcasts.
