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He's the most unpopular president in American history after his first 100 days. Give me a break. No one's intimidated by this dude.
No one. And so there are clear lines that they just dare not cross. So that was King Jeffries, obviously, who says a word every five minutes. They are at they and they actually charged that congresswoman because you have to see the video. She stampedes through the fence. And evidently, Alexis McAdams was told behind the scenes when she gets beyond the fence, they tried to handcuff the mayor who wouldn't move. So as they go to do it, she jumped in between the ICE agent and the mayor, at which time, instead of creating an additional scene, they pushed everybody out. And then they cuff the mayor in front of everyone.
And they said, well, why are you making a scene of cuffing the mayor? Because this congresswoman wouldn't get out of the way. And this woman thinks she can bulldoze.
You have to see her. She's like a running back, not even a running back, running back to try to avoid tackles. She's running through people, trying to get up the middle because she thinks there's children being harmed inside an ICE facility. What does she actually think about law enforcement to think that children need her help outside Newark? Or is she just somebody that got all amped up, think that this is going to help her career, thought that she could bully ICE agents because for some reason they're not popular with American people?
And thought she could just go do that. So her name is Congresswoman LaMonica McIver. And there's going to be a hearing today on the examining of threats to ICE operations. This will be front and center.
If you're in ICE, you're dangerous. You're pulling out criminals that are here illegally. My goodness, they got nothing to lose in many cases. So they're accusing her of McIver of assault, assault impeded and interfere with law enforcement in violation of Title 18, the U.S. code.
Alina Haba makes the charge. Tom Homan, when you see that video with everything you got on your plate, what were your thoughts when you heard this was going down and you saw this video? That she should be arrested? I mean, I said from day one, you and I talked many times since day one in the administration. I said you cannot support ICE, shame on you, but you know, you have that right. You can protest.
That's fine. You can stand by and support sanctuary cities, but you can't cross the line. You can't cross the line of impediments. You cannot cross the line of holding only harboring, concealing illegal aliens. And you certainly can't cross the line, but put hands on an ICE officer. So I wasn't bluffing. I meant that they crossed the line.
So I don't care what Hakeem Jeffries said. I put my red line out there first. So we crossed this red line. So game on.
Bring it. We are enforcing the law without apology. So with the mayor, according to our reporter, investigators told our reporter that McIver blocked police from putting handcuffs on the mayor while the group was inside the ICE facility. That is why the agents were forced to wait and handcuff the mayor when he was back outside of the gates that day. I mean, that's a tough decision for law enforcement to make. They could knock her out of the way and put cuffs on. But they you have to worry about escalation.
Correct. And you have to also say, well, this is a U.S. congresswoman. Yeah, you know, you always got to be careful of the actions you take. But, you know, the ICE officers hand themselves very professionally.
I mean, they think about it. You know, you're disrespecting, shoving around ICE agents the very same week as police. We're here in Washington, D.C., honoring those who give maybe ultimate sacrifice. I went to a board from Memorial Service. I went to ICE Memorial Service. I went to Blue Mass upon the National Law Enforcement.
You know, the wall of names almost fallen this same week. We're supposed to be honoring the sacrifice of law enforcement. You got a congresswoman putting hands on somebody, trying to cause a disruption, putting politics over public safety. And if she simply would have went and followed the rules, she could have got a tour of that facility. Many people have. I mean, Rachel Campos went to that facility. And guess what? What did they find? One of the cleanest, finest, up-to-date facilities in the nation. Far better than anything New Jersey has as a state or local facility. So this should be a thing to themselves. But, Alina Hava, God bless you.
You're doing the right thing. No one's above the law. Haven't we heard that for four years? Well, guess what? Either it's members of Congress. So how much harder is your job now that the Supreme Court said the Alien Enemies Act won't apply? Look, it makes it harder.
They push it back down to the local circuit court. We're hoping to win it because, look, we're not making this up, Brian. We're using the laws on the books. We're using every tool in our toolbox. The Alien Enemies Act was something that was written by Congress, enacted by Congress, and put in the statute.
We're using it. And if anybody actually reads the Alien Enemies Act, we're not violating any part of the act. People need to understand, when you talk about due process, there's a less level due process than the Alien Enemies Act. It's written in legislation on purpose. So we're talking about the quick expulsion of those who are enemies of this nation.
Those who are designated terrorists, are enemies of this nation. So we think we follow the law. But once again, you've got judges second-guessing what we're doing. We're not making this up. We're using the laws on the books.
I think we'll eventually win it. But until then, we're not going to stop arresting these alien enemies. And we have to hold them to attention. That's what we'll do while we're waiting on what can we do about deportation. But we have to put them in title-A deportation. We have to do expedited removals. So we're going to do everything we can to keep the rest of them and keep removing them, even though Alien Enemies Act removal places are put on hold. We're going to use every tool in the toolbox to keep removing public safety threats every day for this country.
So Tom, so for example, if you get a guy from MS-13, you know he's from MS-13, he's sitting there in a jumpsuit. And you've got to send him back to El Salvador. Now what is the process? Because you could still put him in, you could give him his hearing, can't you?
If you want it. I mean, you can't possibly get 8 million people hearings. But can you give him expedited removal, which could be on Zoom, they were telling me?
It could be anywhere. Yeah, you can do expedited removal, you can do voluntary departure. A lot of these MS-13 members in this country already have a final order.
So we can remove them to a normal Title-A ICE flight. So we're going to do everything we can. One thing I can assure you, they're not going to be walking the streets. They'll be locked up, waiting for one of these processes to work themselves out. Either it's the Title-A immigration judge, whether it's expedited removal, whether it's a voluntary departure. We're going to take them off the streets and we're going to keep getting them out of the country. But there's three or four different ways we can do it. It's just a slower process.
But if that's what we've got to do, that's what we're going to do. How did Bill Clinton expedite $350,000 in expedited removal? What were his rules? Did Congress give him something to do that with? No, and we're doing expedited removals right now. The problem is we don't have the border. Most expedited removals are border crossers, right?
We have the most secure border in the history of this nation right now. We don't have those kind of numbers. That's why I keep hearing this, you know, I keep getting asked the question, we're removing less people than Biden.
No, we're not. ICE, interior arrests and removals are much higher than Biden, but they counted border removals. When you got 8.5 million people crossing the border, being released from the country, you got a lot of people to remove. But our border is secure, so we don't count border removals. We don't have border removals. So we're actually doing a hell of a lot more than the Biden administration did, but there's less expedited removals. That's usually 90% border cases, and we simply don't have those border cases because our border is secure. What's your reaction to the Supreme Court saying that you can get rid of the people who got special disposition from Haiti, from Venezuela, and I believe Nicaragua? I think it's the right thing to do.
You know, Brian, I started doing this job in 1984. I've said it a thousand times, temporary protective status has never been temporary in this country. It's a shame. You know, temporary protective status, they won't remove you to a specific country because the conditions of that country are inhumane or they're in war or whatever. But the conditions have changed, and every administration has been weak. Well, let's just give it to them. They've been here a while, and they've got jobs, and let's just keep them here. Even if the country conditions are improved, let's just keep them here. No, that's a form of amnesty. So I'm glad they're following the law.
Temporary means temporary. Those conditions in those countries aren't as bad as it used to be. They need to go home. They entered the country illegally. They were protected from being deported because the conditions in their country are bad.
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Listen live at noon Eastern or get the podcast at FoxAcrossAmerica.com. So could Congress be helping you more? I mean, couldn't they pass some of these immigration laws to modernize them so you don't have to go back to 1794?
Yes. They can do three things in Congress that will solve 85 percent of the problem on the border. They can change the asylum rules that, you know, your first interview for asylum, that threshold needs to be the same level as judicial review. That will stop the asylum fraud. Number two, the Trafficking Victims Protection Act, children from all over the world that enters this country illegally need to be treated just like children from Mexico.
Once it's ascertained you're not a victim of trafficking, you can be immediately moved to your parents in the country you came from. Third, the Florida asylum agreement. When families come across, let us hold them in a family residential center long enough to see a judge. Over 90 percent will lose their case. We'll put them on airplanes, send them home, and the families stop coming.
How do I know that? So we did that during the Obama administration, and it worked. Those three changes would solve 85 percent of the problem on the border. That way the next president can come in and undo everything we're doing right now through executive orders and destroy our border like Biden did when he took over from Trump 45. Congress can make these fixes permanent.
I've been up on the Hill constantly. I hope they do it. But first of all, give me the money to continue doing what we're doing. We're doing great things. We need to finish this job.
This administration may be the first administration in the history of this nation who actually have total operational control of our southern border. Let us finish this job, and let ICE finish their job. They've got to arrest three times more people every day than they're doing right now. We need money. We need beds. We need airplanes. We need agencies. We need contracts. Is that in the big, beautiful bill?
Yes. If we get the money that's in the current bill right now, we can get this done. That's why I'm up on the Hill a lot. Pass this big, beautiful bill and watch what we do. Watch how secure this country is and watch how many criminal aliens and public safety threats and national security threats ICE can remove if they have the resources to do it. Well, if you get that money, the other thing would be, I understand they've got to focus on this bill and you've got to get everyone on page. I just watched Mike Lawler say he's not going to vote for it yet, so good luck with that, Mr. President.
So, he's a Republican from New York. So, Tom, afterwards, do you have the word of the Speaker that they're going to do those three things or present those three things that you need done separately? They're going to work on it. I'm not going to give up until we get it done, but look, people like Lawler, they've got to remember the American people voted overwhelmingly for President Trump on this issue.
Immigration, border security, removing public safety threats. He's been given a mandate, which means members of Congress have been given a mandate. I don't want to see what happened to Trump 45. The first two years under Trump 45, we had the House and Senate.
They didn't do squat to support this president. She had to beg and take money from building the wall from other places. Haven't we learned our lesson? Let's secure the border. This should be a nonpartisan issue. A secure border saves lives. There's no downside unless fentanyl comes across to kill Americans. There's no downside unless sex trafficking women and children. There's no downside unless public safety threats and national security threats enter this country. There's no downside unless people on the terrace watch this crossing the border. And there's certainly no downside in bankrupting criminal cartels, now designated terrorists. There's no downside on a secure border. Everybody, especially Republicans, should have no second-guess in supporting this bill.
I hear you. Now, two things I have not heard much about. Fentanyl, I hear the numbers are going down, and I've not heard much about the northern border. What could you tell us? Southern border is down.
It operates to about 96%. Northern border is down about 88%. So we made great studies on the northern border. The problem is there's less resources, less technology up there. I've been up there.
I've met with two Canadian officials three times now. We're filling the gaps. But once again, this bill will give us more money to put more technology and more boots on the ground on the northern border.
They're understaffed. We need money to hire more agents. This bill will help address the northern border. Yeah, it's down 88%. It needs to be down 100%. It needs to be down 96% against the southern border. We need money to do that.
So this is another part of this bill that's why it's so important. I know it's not really your jurisdiction, but the cartels make the fentanyl from the precursors from China. Have they felt the pressure?
Well, absolutely. Cartels, they're running scared right now. We're shutting down their business. They've made record amounts of money the last four years smuggling people, trafficking women and children, and moving drugs across the border. When we have the border down, 96% less people are coming.
That means every agent's on the line doing his job, which means you're not sneaking them on fentanyl through like you used to. You're not sneaking women and children for sex trafficking and forced labor reasons. Cartels are hurting. We're hurting them where it hurts, in the pocketbook. But Mexico's got to step up and agree with Trump. We can take the cartels out permanently, but it's going to take the United States to do that. Mexico's failed for decades to do it. If you want the cartels to go away and be wiped off the face of the earth, it's going to take American money, American know-how. I hope Mexico agrees to that because Mexico will be a much safer country. Thanks to you, Tom, it'll be a much safer country. Tom Homan, back in a moment.
