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April 22, 2025 12:42 pm

Dennis Ross discusses the Iran nuclear deal and the need for Iran to give up its nuclear weapon option. Admiral William McCraven talks about crisis leadership and the importance of facing the truth in times of crisis. Brian Kilmead discusses various topics including immigration, the economy, and the Trump administration's policies.

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It's Brian Kilmead. Hi, everyone.

So glad you're there. I'm here. Dennis Ross is coming up in a matter of moments. You know, he's one of the most respected people in Middle Eastern minds in terms of trying to bring peace to that region and the obstacles that stand in its way. He knows all the players.

Lieutenant Colonel Allen West at the bottom of the hour. He's over in Texas, where suddenly immigration is not the top issue for all the right reasons.

So before, and by the way, a couple of things happened today of note. Secretary Kennedy and the FDA Commissioner, Marty McCary, will announce the FDA's intent to phase out petroleum-based synthetic dyes in our food supply. Imagine that. He's doing exactly what he said. Let's get to the big three.

Number three. Harvard has the right to do terrible things and encourage students to do terrible things and have teachers teach terrible things, but they don't have the right to get money from the federal government. True.

So they're going to lose this lawsuit. I hope so. Harvard digs in for the fight for their billions as the Trump administration cracks down on their anti-Semitic, anti-American, anti-conservative doctrine. By fighting the Ives, Trump is winning. We'll tell you why.

Number two. The president wants America to get a fair deal. He's really trying to reverse not only decades of globalizing that have cost American jobs and Americans the ability to make a good living, but also it's about securing the country. Breaking the ice. VP closes in on a first major new trade deal, this time with India.

And I'm talking about Vance. And Japan and South Korea look to be next. How will the markets respond as China looks to divide up the world? Number I'm here to talk about the fact that. that he represents A very big problem with this administration that they have no problem scooping somebody up based on tattoos and vibes and sending them to a foreign country's prison.

How about a police report? Maxwell Frost, have you read it? The befuddling obsession, that's the Democratic Congressman you just heard from, with Kilmar Obrego Garcia by Dems. It will not subside as Trump and the courts fight about his expulsion taxes and more illegal immigrant gangs find themselves in the crosshairs of Tom Holman's warriors. And that's exactly what's happening.

I mean, in terms of immigration, this is a great story. I thought Karl Ruve was right on the money when he said. mister President, go down and take a bow at the border, see what's going on there because the military combined with Border Patrol and your policies have basically shut it down first time in my lifetime. And we'll talk about that. But we know what happened last Saturday.

Two Saturdays ago, there was a meeting with the US and Iran. Technically indirect. And then they moved it over to Rome. And I think they're going to have another one this week. Are we moving closer to a peace deal or are we just prolonging and delaying the eventual hit on their nuclear program?

What would be better for the world? Dennis Ross joins us now, William Davidson Distinguished Fellow at the Washington Institute for Near East Policy. Mr. Ambassador, welcome back. Brian always good to be with you.

Thanks for having me. Your thoughts about where we're at From what we read and what your contacts tell you about two weeks into these negotiations with Iran. I'm glad you asked because I think one of the issues is what's the objective that the administration has? If you listen to the National Security Advisor, it's to dismantle completely the Iranian nuclear infrastructure. If you listen to the Steve Witkoff, the negotiator, He said a couple of different things.

At one point, actually, in a Fox News interview, he talked about limiting. The amount of enrichment and monitoring it, as well as limiting the prospect of verification and being able to verify that. He then toughened that position to say, well, we would eliminate enrichment and and the weaponization program, which is quite different from dismantling. beyond what he was saying before, But it's also very clear that given the negotiations and the fact that Arachi, the Iranian foreign minister who is quite Knowledgeable about all these issues, having been the key player in negotiating the JCPOA. Per ran before.

He put out after their meeting in Rome, the seven meeting, that basically there's increasing agreement on principles and goals. They would reject the idea of having no enrichment.

So that clearly, at this point, isn't part of the discussion. In the end, by the way, I could live with that provided the objective was the following. The objective must be That Iran gives up. is nuclear weapon option. What was the problem with the JCPOA?

It said For 15 years, The Iranians were limiting what they could do and cutting it back quite significantly. But at the end of 15 years, there would be absolutely no limit whatsoever on their nuclear program. What that meant was Iran was deferring its nuclear weapon option, it wasn't giving it up. What this needs to be Uh I think Fundamentally, in terms of the question you asked at the outset, what's really in our interest? What this needs to be.

Is an outcome where the Iranians are giving up their nuclear weapon option. I can give you a series of alternatives of how to get there. The one that I think is probably most achievable through negotiations would be one in which you scale back the size of their nuclear infrastructure.

So they don't have six thousand centrifuges operating. They don't have any advanced centrifuges operating. You let them have less than one thousand. They can't enrich above five percent. They have to ship out everything that they now have that is Above 5%, and that's quite a bit.

They probably, my guess, I think they have 11 bombs worth of material.

So they they should reduce They should have only Low-enriched uranium available, and even that should be less than one bomb's worth. You then have very intrusive monitoring. With a very severe penalty, should they inhibit any access to any site, declared or undeclared. If you did all that, which would be cheap. changing the character and the quality and the size of their nuclear infrastructure.

then through their small capability, they would be revealing an intent to give up the nuclear weapon option. There are other alternatives which I think that they will resist. And I will say, I don't think President Trump wants a war. I think he wants to reach a deal. And I'm okay with that.

Providing the outcome of the deal is they have given up their nuclear weapon option.

Now, I'm not even talking about ballistic missiles. I'm just focused on the nuclear issue, and we can get into whether or not This needs to involve more than the nuclear issue.

Well, it does. It shouldn't. And Dennis and Dennis, the thing is, that's what Obama left out. And that's and President Trump has already brought that up before. They've got to put their missile program on the table.

Here's what he said yesterday, CUP 36.

Next step is we need a little time. We had very good meetings on Iran. We had very good and the tariffs are going very well, as you know. Everybody wants to negotiate. But General Jack Key, not as optimistic, cut 37.

The Israelis, if they had to, would do this alone. They don't want to do that because they want to be supported by the United States. I think Prime Minister Netanyahu and President Trump are really on the same page in dealing with Iran. The President wants to see if Iran will voluntarily do this. If not, he would likely support with U.S.

capability an Israeli-led attack and give Israel the bombers that are necessary to help destroy these targets. Yes.

So that would likely be a joint operation.

So it would be. And that report a few weeks ago when Trump when Netanyahu came to town, everyone said, Oh, for trade. There's no way. He talked about trying to convince Trump to basically support him and give him the bombs necessary to take out that program, don't you think, Dennis? one hundred percent.

I said at the time this was the tariffs were a cover. This was all about because we, I think Steve Witkoff had called him and said we're going to begin negotiations with the Iranians, and he didn't, he would then want to come and try to. shape and influence what the American approach would be. I think right now the character of what's happening with two rounds. technical people meeting tomorrow and then another meeting uh with Witkoff and Arachi.

this weekend. The Iranians everything I hear, the Iranians actually tabled a paper. And I suspect that a lot of what's going on is we're kind of working off of that paper.

Now as I said, Brian. I can live with an outcome, an agreed outcome, where they are giving up their nuclear weapons option. We cannot have an outcome where they don't. And that's clearly what they're going to try to do. They're going to try to preserve as much of their nuclear infrastructure as possible.

They're going to try to preserve as much of their ballistic missile. Cape and Pig capability as possible, even though the Israelis on October 26th destroyed about ninety percent of it.

Now they can reconstitute that. Here again, we're in an interesting position because what the Israelis have done, Iran has never been more vulnerable because the Israelis basically took out their air defense. And Syria. They lost Assad, they lost Hezbollah, they lost Hamas. Their process of loot, they're substantially diminished.

And they lost some of their air defense. They've never been more vulnerable.

Now, let me ask you: what do you think the Sunni nations in the area, the Gulf states, feel about what would they like to see happen? Because we know that Saudi Arabia and Iran are pretty much rivals. We know UAE and Qatar's got to play it both ways. What do you think that they want to see happen? If they thought Israel could do this without affecting them at all, they'd be in favor of it.

If they fear that Israel doing it may make them be the recipients of Iranian targets. as a response. If they if the Iranians feel they can only limit what they do against uh the Israelis, but They want to convince The Gulf states that they could be very vulnerable if Israel hits them, so that the Gulf states will come here and persuade us. not to have Israel do it. I think they're torn.

I think they're ambivalent. The outcome they want is one where Iran can no longer be a threat to them.

Now they already know Israel changed the regional balance of power. by basically dramatically diminishing Hamas His ballad. Assad is gone. this is a fundamentally different regional balance of power. It doesn't mean it stays like this forever.

Because Iran will do everything they can to try to reconstitute, including trying to subvert, for example, Jordan. Jordan recently had a had a security raid where they uncovered A covert ballistic missile producing facility and a drone producing facility. Uh and Iran has been trying to flood Jordan with with weapons to try to subvert the to try to subvert the king in a sense. gain back some of what they lost by having a key American ally somehow basically fundamentally destabilized.

So Iran hasn't disappeared in terms of what it seeks over time, but it is dramatically weaker right now than it was.

Now if you if they're prepared to change What their intent is towards the rest of the region, that's one thing. If they're not, then you better produce an agreement that really constrains what they can do. What do you think about the Israel? I'm going to just read this here. I've read this thing four times.

I don't get it. It says: Iran offers to help Trump revive the U.S. nuclear sector. But it canceled the speech. It goes on to say that Iran's top official, he's doing the negotiating with Trump to entice Trump with up to tens of billions of dollars worth of contracts to help revitalize the U.

S. nuclear industry in a canceled speech they were going to give at the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace and Nuclear Policy Conference. Dennis Ross, how could they help us with our nuclear program? Because what they're suggesting is the U. S.

can come in and build up the civil nuclear industry within Iran. And by doing that, Combination of doing that and also what the Saudis want, it would revitalize our nuclear industry here so that we would be producing either. nuclear power plants for them or what are known as these small modular reactors which can be produced much more quickly instead of 10 to 15 years it can be done in like 18 months to 24 months. That's what they're talking about. That's fascinating, personally.

I just that's an interesting proposal. Lastly, what do the Iranian people want? We keep hearing about the unrest. We know what horrible lives they live, seemingly, yet they're very well educated. What do you think the Iranian people want?

They don't seem to like their government. They would like a different regime. What was the the women life freedom? That was the the slogans. of the movement.

Look, you're having a regime in Iran right now, and I don't want to I never call for regime change because trying to do regime change from the outside basically never works. We don't know how to do it. I don't know anybody else who knows how to do it well without being stuck there. On the other hand, You have a public. That clearly wants something different.

The current regime in Iran, the parliament, which is hardline. Passed a law on the hijabs to enforce a penalty on women not wearing the hijab. And they haven't implemented it. Why? Because they're afraid of what it will trigger.

to put things in perspective, Brian, where their real situation is. This is a country that produces natural gas. And oil. And it constantly has to shut down. government business and schools because it doesn't have enough electricity.

This is a country that is limiting water availability because of water shortages. There are a lot of things we could offer them. In return, For them, changing their posture.

Now, it's hard to believe the supreme leader will do that given who he is, his identity, the importance of his ideology to him. At some point, change will come within Iran. I should just mention, you know, I have a new book out called Statecraft 2.0. In it, I have a 50-page chapter on Iran. And one of the things I do is I go through the policy of every administration from Carter to today.

And their position towards Iran, and what affected the Iranians and what didn't. The one overriding factor that was more important than anything else for the Iranians. was fear of direct military conflict with the United States. We can use that fear to produce an outcome. I'm all for producing an agreement, provided the agreement.

doesn't leave Iran with a nuclear weapon option and doesn't leave them without limits on their ballistic missile capabilities. Wow, a lot going on. Dennis, I did not know you had a book out, so we got to have you on for that again, just on that. I'll come on just to talk about that. All right, well, absolutely.

Dennis Ross, thanks so much. My pleasure. Consequential time of the Middle East. What else is new? Lieutenant Colonel Allen West at the bottom of the arrow.

We'll talk about what's happened with the tariffs and with Charlie Gasparino's reporting that I found somewhat challenging and fixable, but it caught me by surprise. I'll share it when we come back. Diving deep into today's top stories. It's Brian Kilmead. Hey, I'm Trey Gaddy, host of the Trey Gaddy Podcast.

I hope you will join me every Tuesday and Thursday as we navigate life together and hopefully find ourselves a little bit better on the other side. Listen and follow now at FoxnewsPodcast.com. A radio show like no other. It's Brian Kilmead. He's bringing China to the table.

This is going to be great for America. There will be a contraction and the difference is we've been in contraction for a long period of time. Joe Biden just lied it. The entire administration lied over and over about how good or how good a shape the economy was in. Remember, we were hiring 40% of all the jobs were coming from the government.

They're slicing and dicing jobs with the government today. They're going to get his way on the tariffs. He's going to cut taxes in the next three to four weeks. America is going to go into a great prosperity. There might be a contraction temporarily, but it's good times ahead for the American families.

And that is a billionaire speaking out optimistic, a Trump supporter. But Ambassador Jameson Greer gave me the most. Reason for optimism. He said, I'm pleased to confirm that the U.S. Trade Rep and India's Ministry of Commerce and Industry have finalized the terms of a reference to lay down a roadmap for the negotiations for reciprocal trade.

It's a serious lack of reciprocity in trade and relationship with India. These ongoing talks will help achieve that balance and reciprocally reciprocosity by opening up new markets for American goods and addressing unfair practices. And they went on to say in a different post that South Korea and Vietnam could be next.

Now, Charlie Gasparino, one of the finest business reporters in the country, great contacts, said that Japanese leaders have told him that they were really confused about what exactly the Trump team wants. They weren't clear on what exactly they mean by more balancing. And when they wanted to leave with an agreement, but the Trump team wasn't ready to sign off on it, South Korea said something very similar.

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So, if you want to give people a reason for optimism, start cutting the deals and tell everyone the new deal is going to be better and we're going to take on China. This episode is brought to you by Shopify. Upgrade your business with Shopify, home of the number one checkout on the planet. ShopPay boosts conversions up to 50%, meaning fewer carts going abandoned and more sales going cha-ching.

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We have written a letter just as of 30 minutes ago to Secretary of State Marco Rubio demanding daily proof of life for Mr. Obrego Garcia. He is a father. He is a husband. He's a union member.

I am a mother. The idea that... Kilmar was detained from the front of his five-year-old son. It was heartbreaking to me. This is on Donald Trump.

Maybe when his five-year-old son finds out that he's an MS-13, he'll understand why his dad was arrested. Maybe he'll find out when he's doing human trafficking. When his son learns that that's what his dad does for a living and came here to the country illegally, crossing through the border and then wearing MS-13 paraphernalia. Maybe then it'll all make sense. Lieutenant Colonel Alan West, he's the Dallas County Republican Party chair, American Constitutional Rights Union Executive Director, former Congressman of Florida, joins us.

Colonel, your reaction to the demand from Congress, where you used to work for daily proof of life.

Well, good thing that I'm not up there because I would give a floor speech talking about how absolutely delusional that is. Why should we have a demand for daily proof of life for someone that's not an American citizen? I thought that these members of Congress were elected to represent American citizens, not people that broke our laws to come here illegally.

Furthermore, they joined a criminal gang, which is now a Terrorist organization, which does not have a great human rights record, as you just articulated. Mr. Garcia is in his home country.

So, why do we have these Democrats going down there and advocating for him? This is not the hill to die on, and this is not where you want to waste your political capital. And once again, I don't see how these individuals think that they're doing a good thing for themselves as we're going to pretty soon start going into the midterm election cycle. They're just creating commercials that will be run against them all next year. Cut three.

Maxwell Frost. I'm not here to litigate even a very specific person. I'm here to talk about the fact that he represents. A very big problem with this administration that they have no problem scooping somebody up. Based on tattoos and vibes, and sending them to a foreign country's prison.

So I think that, you know, When you're scooping these people up and you put them under the enemy rights clause in the 1780s, there's a tactic and way to do it. But when you look at this guy's background, you don't feel bad for him. And then you find out that he gave a statement when he was picked up two weeks ago, three weeks ago. One of the statements was: Do you feel your life is danger if you go back to El Salvador? You know what he said?

No.

So they want to focus on, well, did he get his due process? I'll tell you, Colonel, I don't think it's possible to give 8 million people. Due process that came here illegally, and 2.5 million gotaways, is it? No, it's not. And and I don't understand the recent Supreme Court decision, which I think was hastily arrived to.

These are talk we're talking about people who broke our law, that that dismissed our national sovereignty, that did not care about the rule of law. They are here illegally. Then on top of that, you're talking about single military aged males and others who are committing acts of crime against Law-abiding American citizens. As again, as you articulated, participating in sex trafficking and human trafficking, no, they do not have a due process. They can have a due process in the country of their natural origin, but not in this country where they are illegal.

And furthermore, All of this crying about he's married and he's got a five-year-old son. When did that ever preclude a police officer from arresting you? Look, Brian, if I go out and I get a DUI, if I commit a crime, no one's going to say, well, the colonel's been married for going on 36 years. He's got two daughters. He's got two grandsons.

Let's show some mercy. No, I broke the law and there are consequences thereof.

So why does that not also convey to people that have come here illegally?

So, I want you to hear what Jonathan Turley said. Because legally, you know, what was his background? Was he on a deport list?

Well, under this administration, if you're MS-13, you're going to be on a list. If you're on that administration in 2019, there was no urgency to get him out. Here's Jonathan Turley, cut 12. The administration, however, has a legitimate point here that the court itself is responsible for some of this. What we need is clarity.

For years, the court told district court judges to stop issuing national injunctions, but did little to give them guidelines. And he went on to say this, cut 13. When they got the earlier case, they sent it back with an order, supporting an order to facilitate the return of Garcia and didn't define what that means. And so, of course, the judge immediately said, I feel unfacilitated, right?

So, how predictable is that? The fact is that when the cat's away, the mice will play. And a lot of this disorder, I think, is a lack of clarity. That the Supreme Court's got to come in. They've got to deal with this Alien Enemies Act.

They've got to define what the President's authority is under that act. They can't just keep on saying facilitate or give due process. They need greater specificity. And so we'll see if it gets back into their midst, because that's what the Democrats think not to harp on, with these people getting their Miranda rights, or are they getting their day in court? Are they going to be able to lawyer up?

What about the people with special dispensation, like the Cubans, like the Venezuelans, the Haitians, the Nicaraguans?

Now we have to, there's over 500,000 of them here temporarily. And now they said the Supreme Court says we have to go through them one by one.

Well, again, I think we need to go back to the Biden administration. First and foremost, where are all these district judges? Where was the Supreme Court when Joe Biden and Kamala Harris were violating Article 4, Section 4 of the Constitution and not protecting this nation from invasion, invasion of people coming across illegally, the guided ways, and everyone?

So I find it very interesting that now all of a sudden they are speaking out when someone's trying to abide by the law. But Professor Turley is right. I mean, we need some very specific language coming out of these judicial decisions and these judicial injunctions, things of this nature. Because to the common everyday American citizen, Brian, they say, what's wrong with taking people that are here illegally and sending them out of the country? And what's wrong with prioritizing the people that are domestic and national security threats and deporting them out of the country?

Why are we having this debate about criminal, illegal immigrants having due process when we We don't afford a lot of due process to people. Let's be very succinct with the January 6th. I mean, there are cases still here in the United States of America where people were ramroded. They lost their constitutional rights. They were thrown in prison unjustly.

But the left thinks that that's just perfectly fine.

So the left is losing a common sense battle. The left is losing the battle of optics, being in El Salvador and advocating for someone that is not an American citizen.

So, as you know, Bill Maher sat down with the President of the United States and they got along. He listed a whole, I thought it was pretty funny, all the insults that Trump just called him. Trump could hit him back with that. He said, Would you see? He put him on a page and he said, Would you sign it?

He said, Of course, I'd sign it. And then he gave a positive report. He said he was engaging, he was a good listener, he was funny to be around, and said a bunch of nice things. And since that time on the left, he's got almost nothing but blowback, including, I could not believe this, Larry David. comes out and writes a column mocking it and comparing it to dinner he had with Adolf Hitler.

And using his own brand of humor, who I think is funny, to just mock Bill Maher for sitting down with Trump. Here's Bill Maher, cut 25. I told you the truth. That's all I did. I went there and I told the truth of what happened.

Would you have preferred it? Good for you. And they would prefer that I had lied. They just don't feel that this is like a real person. And I know it's so weird to say that about Donald Trump, who I've said a jillion times is a whiny little bit.

I mean, I could go through my greatest hits of like insults, but this was about getting past that. And maybe seeing that if we met in person, we don't hate each other as much. And we don't. And I don't. And I'm sorry.

I'm not going to like pretend that's a bad thing. No, it's how you heal. Even though he's doing terrible things.

Now he's with Charlie Kirk at the time.

So you could disagree, but it's separate and he doesn't think he's evil. But there are people that are panicking that he might be so-called normalized. You remember Jimmy Fallon messed up his hair and had fun with him? They said you normalized him and almost destroyed his left-wing career.

Well, the first thing that you have to do is you have to denigrate, disparage, and dehumanize your political opposition. You have to take away any semblance or understanding of humanity because it makes it a lot easier. Remember, Brian, you know about the far left poll that came out a couple of weeks ago where people thought it was justifiable to assassinate Donald Trump, where people thought it was justifiable to shoot Elon Musk, where people on the left thought it was fine with happening with firebombing, Tesla dealerships. And that is what you have to do is to dehumanize that person so that they are not justified to have any sort of humanitarian care feelings or what have you. That's what the left wants with Donald Trump.

And to have Bill Morris say he's just a guy. He's a guy that I could sit down and I had a great time with him and I don't see him as evil. I don't hate him. I don't agree with him politically and some of the things he is doing, some of his policies, but I'm not going to sit up here and despise and hate the man. That sends the left into an apoplectic meltdown.

So when he says, This is the column for Larry David, he said, My dinner with Hitler. And he said, I had been a vocal critic of him on the radio from the beginning, pretty much predicted everything he was going to do on the road to dictatorship. No one I knew encouraged me to go. He's Hitler, he's a monster. But eventually I concluded that hate gets us nowhere.

And I knew I couldn't change his views. But we need to talk to the other side, even if it has invaded and annexed other countries and committed unspeakable crimes. Two weeks later, I found myself on the front steps of Hitler's house and was led into an opulent living room. And there was the Fuhrer. Most vocal supporters had gathered.

Himmler, Göring, and he goes on, we talked about some of the most beautiful art. But our conversation ended abruptly when he heard loud footsteps coming down the hallway. Everyone stiffened as Hitler entered the room. He was wearing a tan coat and swastika, and he says a bunch of nice things about Hitler. That's what he compares Trump to.

And I'm sure everybody out in Los Angeles is loving this column.

Well, of course. And again, that's how you make sure that you can dehumanize Donald Trump. It's just the same as I think it was Dick Durbin that referred to Guantanamo Bay as a stalag, a gulag, and tried to draw the same conclusions with George W. Bush. That's the left, I mean, going around and putting swastikas onto Tesla vehicles when Nazis stood for National Socialists.

No one on the constitutional conservative side believes in socialism. And if you want to talk about tyranny, telling me how much toilet water I can flush, I think that's pretty tyrannical. What type of showerhead I can have, what type of dishwasher, oven, all of these things, what type of house I can buy, what type of car I can drive. But that's the totalitarianism. That's the mindset of the left.

And they are going to project onto others who they really and truthfully are. And I think that's what's happening. Right. I mean, it's just unbelievable that he's getting away with this column. He said the public Hitler is a lot much different than the private Hitler.

But the private Hitler was completely different, and oddly enough, this one was so authentic, like the real Hitler, the whole thing had been had my head spinning.

So it's unbelievable. I mean, they are mocking Bill Maher to the point where if I'm Bill Maher, I am so offended by this. I think he's Jewish, Bill Maher. I'm pretty sure. I'm not positive.

But I am so offended by this. I'm done with these guys. Number one, I call him up. Yeah, yeah. And I'd say, number one, you can keep your Derek Critic Party, I'm done.

Yeah, I really think that you're going to look at him being pushed away. He may not all of a sudden become a Republican, but much the same as you saw with uh David Horowitz, uh much the same as you saw with uh I forget the lawyer's name uh from Harvard, the Mr. Meritha Smith judge. Absolutely. They pushed him away as well.

He was not going to go out and maybe vote for Donald Trump, but he was done with the Democrat Party because he saw them as anti-Semitic, a very far-left violent party. And this may push Bill Maher out of their camp. Not into another camp, but definitely push him out of theirs. Yeah, I mean, they call it. I've never met him.

I think I met him once in passing, but I'm offended by it. Put it this way: if Harold Ford was here right now, Harold Ford might get my vote for president. But yet, I probably disagree with them on about half of these issues, but they're all reasonable conversations. But and I could have a reasonable conversation with John Fetterman. And Bill Maher, it seems, if his show is indicative of his true beliefs.

But I can't talk to that. Lieutenant Colonel Alan West, thanks so much. My pleasure. God bless. Take care, Brian.

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I said what I believe to be true. And you think he was as sharp as you? Um I said I had not seen Decline. And I hadn't. At that point.

You did not see any decline from 2024 Joe Biden to 2021 Joe Biden? Not when I said that. You know the The thing is He look. He was sharp, he was on his feet, I saw him. live event i I had meetings with him a couple of times.

Senator on his feet. is not praise. He can speak in sentences is not praise. Fair enough. Fair enough.

Think about this. Senator Elizabeth Warren, he had to see the look on her face, right, Eric? Big smile on her face off the podcast.

So they would just, and that was just normal following up. Why don't you admit what we all see? He couldn't walk. He couldn't talk. He wasn't thinking.

He wasn't doing his job. You're hearing, now you're seeing the fourth book come out talking about how he walked out of his debate prep without even telling anybody. They said, where did he go? He went out, laid on the beach, and fell asleep on a lounge chair. And then showed up and bombed out, and they tried to keep him away.

They wouldn't let him work without a script. They couldn't have only eight cabinet meetings in four years. And you're worried about Trump and National Security? You have your Secretary of Defense disappear for months, get operational, have an ambulance come to the House without a siren to get him in, and we don't even know it. And the President never was informed of it.

And he says, I've done a study, Lloyd Austin, General Austin, and I've decided that I made a mistake not telling anyone. Really? How much did that study cost us? I'm pretty sure your military training could have produced that. I'm pretty sure anybody's mom could have told you that.

They raised a child. I'm pretty certain. Just some people are writing me all around about illegal immigration. Hey, Brian, we keep hearing about due process when it comes to illegals, Lynn writes, for all these illegals. When I read the various definitions of due process, it seems the application of fairness of treatment is hit several different ways.

So when would it be fair to treat their privacy with the same disregard they displayed upon illegal entry into the U.S.? Just saying, I mean, they have no interest. When people were coming in, there was no interest.

Now we're worried about where we're sending them when they're going out. On the pardons, there's no definition of a federal code for preemptive pardon. Pardons are pre-issued, pre-convictions, charges, or crime, or post-convictions. When you talk about the pardons, the name Anthony Fauci is coming up again, and guess who got a pardon ahead of time? It was Anthony Fauci.

Lastly, there's some movement yesterday. As I told you, they're trying to get rid of American Indian names on all these high schools, grammar schools across the country, like Chiefs, like Warriors, like Flaming Arrows, Iroquois, whatever. They're trying to get rid of all of them. Yesterday, the President of the United States weighed in and he let it be known that the political correctness of trying to get rid of these Indian names while Indian tribes have gathered together saying we don't want to be forgotten.

So we want you to keep those names. And I'm talking about Mass People, where I grew up, Long Island. Every town is named after the Indian tribe that was there. And he put out on Twitter from the president: I agree with the people of Massapico, Long Island, who are fighting furiously to keep the Massapico Chiefs logo on the team school, forcing them to change the school board and virtually everyone in the area demanding name be kept. I don't see the Kansas City Chiefs changing their name, the Blackhawks of Chicago.

Good job, Mr. President. From the Fox News Radio Studios in Midtown Manhattan, it's the fastest-growing radio talk show. Brian Kilmead. Everyone, so glad you're here.

This is the Brian Kilmey Show. We'll come to you from 48th and 6th in Midtown Manhattan, heard around the country, around the world. A lot going on today. You never know in Trump time, things are on hyperspeed all the time, but we can say that HHS Secretary Kennedy, finally, with FDA Commissioner Bakari, now in place, now will have a presser to announce the FDA is getting rid of. food dyes, petroleum based synthetic dyes in our food, which pretty much for the most part didn't know we were dealing with.

But that is part of that whole movement I think is great for parents, and we'll talk about that too. And there's a lot of other breaking news. This hour going to be joined by Jonathan Greenbladder, he's CEO of National Director of the ADL. Talk about the Anti-Defamation League and what's going on here. And then we'll do a simulcast with Stuart Varney.

But it's my privilege to bring in one of the great leaders of our generation, Admiral William McCraven. Not only is he a retired U.S. Navy SEAL, a four-star admiral, best-selling author, he serves as the ninth commander of the United States Special Operations Command and author of his brand new book, I Imagine Out This Week, Conquering Crisis: 10 Lessons to Learn Before You Need Them. Admiral, welcome back. Thanks, Brian.

Good to be back. Do you feel like a retired guy? You know, I stay kind of in the mix a lot.

So, yeah, I do feel retired, though. You know, I'm 10 years away from retirement, but I stay connected to the military community pretty closely. Ryle, when did you realize that some of the things that you trained on, that you taught about, would make great books for civilians like me? Yeah, you know, I think what we've known a long time is that the leadership qualities that you learn in the military are transferable. When I retired from the military and I ran the University of Texas system, the things you learn about leadership, about honesty and integrity, having to deal with issues, those are perfectly transferable.

The leadership qualities, I think, will pass wherever you go, whether you're a CEO or whether you're having to deal with your own personal issues. Leadership qualities are leadership qualities. And what did you try to get across in this book? Because there are people who are in crisis, whether it's personal, financial, it doesn't necessarily mean your type of Navy SEAL crisis. Yeah, so what you find with crisis leadership is it is different than day-to-day leadership.

Again, some of the same qualities that you're going to have as a day-to-day leader are going to play out. Again, you need to work hard. You need to have integrity. You need to be honest. You need to listen to your workforce.

But crisis leadership brings a whole set of different problems.

So you find in crisis leadership, your time is constrained. Your resources are constrained. You may have lives on the line. Everybody is watching.

So all of these things make it just more difficult to lead in a crisis. And what I bring out in the book is I give the readers of the book, hopefully, tools that will allow them to deal with these crises. You always have themes, too. I mean, I downloaded the book to put more money in the McCraven Fund for put your grandchildren in college. But you talk about the first reports being wrong.

Napoleon was the first one quoted. That's in military and in life, so things might not look as bad as they are when they're right in front of your face. Right. Yeah, this is, you know, we see it a lot, certainly in combat. You know, as a leader in combat, invariably I would get reports coming from the field.

And it's not that people are bad, but sometimes they downplay or they don't have the full scope of what's going on. And you have to be very careful about when a first report comes in taking it at face value. You want to make sure that you spend some time and verify the facts before you make some sort of declarative statement. And what you find a lot of times is CEOs, they get the first reports in and they say, hey, look, everything's fine. This is not that bad.

And then little by little, more of the facts come out and it looks a lot worse than it is. Invariably, crises they don't get easier over time. I tell my class, I teach a class at UT, and I talk about the second law of thermodynamics in kind of a laughing sort of way. And I said, look, the second law of thermodynamics, in layman's terms, means everything gets worse over time. Everything, you know, deteriorates over time.

So if you don't do anything about a crisis, it's not going to get better. It's not going to go away. You have to address it head-on.

Some people look at, you know, they're naturally human beings a lot of times. You don't want to deal with it. You procrastinate. You put it aside. Worst thing you can do.

And how do you, can you give me an example, which you use in that chapter? Yeah.

So, if you think about a crisis, I tell folks it's a little bit like a forest fire. When a forest fire is moving quickly, what you have to do is you've got to go after the forest fire at the greatest point of threat. And you can't just take a bucket of water and drop it on the forest fire. You've got to put all your resources against the part that's the most risk to you.

Now, again, whether you're a CEO, whether you're dealing with this personally, the way you have to do this is you take all your resources, you confront the issue. You also have to stand before the public or your rank and file and tell them exactly what's going on. If you try to marginalize or minimalize the nature of the crisis, it's not going to turn out well for you. The truth eventually comes out.

So, part of this is face it head on, be truthful about it, tell your rank and file, tell the people that are watching you that you've got a plan to get through it. If you don't do that, the crisis will just go online.

So, let me ask you this, Adam McCraven. If the pandemic dropped in your lap and you were the president or the head of HSS.

Okay, we have the benefit of hindsight. Sure. It was bad.

So you say this, it's common. We've never seen anything quite like it. My feeling is what I hated most about the leadership for everybody was. They would never acknowledge That they have to redirect and misstep. We don't need mess, we do need mess.

Don't worry about it, let's move on. Live your life, but don't live your life. Shut it down for two weeks, but it's been two months. Stop asking questions. I always thought that was the most anti-leadership moment that I have witnessed over the course.

Of the four or five months that hopefully I'll ever experience. Did you notice that? Yeah, of course. But this is the thing about crisis. And this is two administrations.

Yeah, yeah, this is, yeah, this is independent of the administration. The fact of the matter is, sometimes on a long crisis like that, the pandemic, the facts on the ground can in fact change over time, particularly with something like this where you don't know the nature of the coronavirus when it first starts. because we hadn't had to deal with that before. But at the end of the day, you have to have people that stand in front of the American people in this case and say: here's what we know. Here's the facts, and we're going to let the facts drive our recommendations to the American people.

I would love to have heard that at one point. And I felt like people take the shot, don't take the shot. There are no risks. You're never going to get it. I just felt as though, and never acknowledging the fact that, well, two months ago you said if I took the shot, I'm not going to have a problem, and it's here.

Just keep moving forward in the shutting down of business and abuse. Yeah, you know, the American people are smart enough. Give them the facts, be honest about what the situation is, and give them the best advice you can, recognizing that it's not going to be perfect. You know, leaders are never perfect.

Sometimes the advice is never perfect. But if you're honest and upfront with the American people or with your stakeholders, you're going to be much better off. Alan McCraven also put the other this book, and the name of the book is Perfect for this time. And it is called Conquering Crisis: 10 Lessons to Learn Before You Need Them. A couple more things I want to share with the audience.

You say weaponize the truth. What do you mean? Yeah, so the truth is a powerful force for solving any crisis. But what tends to happen is leaders find themselves in a challenging situation. They know, again, that if it's a crisis, that the press is looking at them, that their shareholders are looking at them, that they're rank and file that we're.

And sometimes, instead of just standing before the podium and saying, you know what, we've got a crisis, we screwed up. Here's all the facts.

Now, here's what I'm doing to solve the problem. You have to let the truth get out. The truth will always find a way out. I mean, everybody knows that. I talk about the story of Ronald Reagan and the Iran-Contra affair.

And what you saw was Reagan, who at the time had a 63% approval rating when Iran-Contra starts. By the end of it, it's down in the 40s because Reagan didn't just stand before the American people and say, yes, I was involved in this. I understood what happened from day one. And these are the decisions I made and why I made them. He hoped that the American people wouldn't find out the depth of his involvement.

But of course they did, because great investigative journalists kept tugging and tugging and pulling on that string, and eventually the truth comes out.

So, as a leader, get the truth out fast, confront the issue, you're going to be much better off. As opposed to the Bay of Pigs. Which JFK said we screwed up. Right. Even though it was an old plan that Eisenhower left behind.

But he said he took responsibility for it, and people appreciated that. Of course. The American people are generally very forgiving. If again, you step in front of them and say, look, we screwed up, or I more importantly, I screwed up, I made a mistake. But here's what I'm going to do to resolve the problem.

Okay, I want to talk about what's happening right now. When you look at what's happening with Iran, are you encouraged by the first two rounds of talk from what we know? Yeah, from what we know, and again, I don't have any more insight than the public does, but from what we know, yeah, I mean, any time you are in dialogue with, in this case, you know, one of our sworn enemies in Iran, and the dialogue is proceeding forward, that's good, because we don't want Iran to get a bomb.

So I think all these conversations are good conversations. But do you think we not only do we want, do you believe that they can have one? I believe they can certainly get a bomb. Absolutely. But we have to make sure they can have one.

Yes.

Because the ripple effect would be detrimental. No, you bet. I mean, it would change everything about the dynamics in the Middle East if the Iranians got a bomb. I travel the Middle East a lot, and every time I talk to leaders in the Middle East, that is their biggest concern. We don't want the Iranians to get a bomb.

Admiral, are you amazed by some people making it out as if we're the problem when it comes to Iran? They've been our enemy for 40 years. I am amazed at the twisting of reality. All of a sudden, it's like, well, if we weren't so aggressive, what choice do they have? What are you talking about?

Yeah, yeah, that sort of Iranian apologist doesn't set well with me. I mean, the fact of the matter is, I've been in and out of the Middle East for most of the last 40-plus years. The Iranians have always had this network of surrogates, of Iranian proxies, and whether it is the Houthis or whether it's Hezbollah, Hamas. I mean, you see what the Iranians have done and the chaos they've created in the Middle East. But having said that, uh let's get on with the conversation.

Let's keep them from getting a bomb. Um but no, we this is not our problem. Uh this is uh a problem of the Iranians making. Cut thirty-seven is General Jack Keene. The Israelis, if they had to, would do this alone.

They don't want to do that because they want to be supported by the United States. I think Prime Minister Netanyahu and President Trump are really on the same page in dealing with Iran. The president wants to see if Iran will voluntarily do this. If not, he would likely support with U.S. capability an Israeli-led attack and give Israel the bombers that are necessary to help destroy these targets.

Yes, so that would likely be a joint operation.

So, General Jack Keene, looking at the Israelis in 1980, they didn't wait for us. Reagan told them not to. They did it anyway. They took out Iraq's nuclear program. Didn't George Bush was asked to help them take out Syria's nuclear program?

You might have been asked. And when they didn't, the Israelis acted on their own. From what you've seen, is there any doubt that the Israelis are prepared to act on their own? Yeah, I mean, I don't think that that they would hesitate to act on their own. The problem is, Brian, a lot has changed in the last decade and certainly two decades.

The Iranians understand that there is always potential of strikes against their two main facilities.

So, again, open source, they have dug down deep. The centrifuges that are spinning are pretty far down.

So, I mean, it would take a pretty massive strike to completely destroy. Do we have it?

Well, you know, I'm not going to go into that. Suffice to say, again, it would take a lot of effort to completely destroy the Iranian nuclear program.

Now, you can set it back six months, nine months, but you're not going to eliminate it. And of course, if you do strike it, does that then put the Iranians in a position to say, okay, game on, and we will drive to building a bomb? And true, but I imagine the damage would be so extensive. I worry about our troops in Iraq and Syria. Would you?

Absolutely. I mean, anytime you take a strike against a foreign country, you better be prepared to protect the men and women that are serving not just in the military, but around the region. And we would do that. The military would do that. And of course, we have our aircraft carriers in the area.

It seems like we're boys. A little bit more with Admiral William McCraven. He's got a book out today. Certainly be a bestseller. Conquering Crisis.

Back in a moment. Learning something new every day on the Brian Killmeat Show. Radio that makes you think. This is the Brian Kill Me Show. Indo Paycom faces a confluence of challenges.

China's unprecedented aggression and military modernization. poses a serious threat to the homeland, our allies and our partners. In 2024, The People's Liberation Army demonstrated growing capabilities through persistent pressure operations, with military pressure against Taiwan increasing by three hundred percent. China's increasingly aggressive actions near Taiwan are not just exercises, they are rehearsals. That was Admiral Samuel Poparo.

That was April 9th. With me right now to confirm that statement or push back on is Admiral William McCraven. His book, Conquering Crisis, out today: 10 Lessons to Learn Before You Need Them, which is great for any parent, any coach out there, let alone if you're just looking to put lessons in to your family. Uh Admiral, your thought about About what the Admiral just said. Yeah, I think Sam Poparo knows better than anybody.

So you have to heed his words. Clearly, from what we've seen, just from the public view, you see what China is doing. They're putting more and more pressure on Taiwan. I mean, I don't personally think that there's going to be some sort of cross-strait invasion anytime soon. Xi has told them to be prepared to take Taiwan by 2027.

I think that's just have the military prepared. But the more exercises you see and the more pressure that begins to be placed on Taiwan, this is something we clearly need to pay attention to. How do you stop it?

Well, I mean, is there something we could sell them to get them ready to fight back? You know, it's a hard problem to defend Taiwan. But what we've got to ask ourselves, I think, as a country is: are we going to go with this concept of actually just publicly saying we're going to defend Taiwan, or are we going to have this kind of strategic ambiguity policy that we've had for a long time?

Now, Biden came out a number of times and said, we'll defend Taiwan. If China's aggressive. And then what happened after? The State Department said no. Right.

So they backed him off of that because we've had the strategic ambiguity. I think the president and his national security team have to make a decision. You know, right now, are we going to defend Taiwan if China decides that they are going to invade? The issue is, I don't think they're going to invade. What they'll do is they'll ramp up pressure.

We may find them in a position to do a blockade, but a blockade technically is an act of war. The question is: if they blockade, will we take aggressive action to stop them?

So let me ask you: how much do they just want Taiwan because it's theirs? And how much does it bother them that this could be a thriving democracy, capitalist society, right on their door? And those people seem unbelievably happy compared to the life that they're putting their people through? Yeah, I think it's a little of both. I mean, there has always been, even before I think Taiwan was the thriving democracy we see today with TSMC and everything that's going on, I was out in Taiwan a little over a year ago.

I mean, you can't help but be impressed with the Taiwanese people.

So there is some historical context. Year where the Chinese clearly feel that Taiwan is one of their provinces. But yes, they are concerned about the democracy on their so.

So let's talk about your book. When I think about people in crisis that performs in sports, not like you, Life and Death is Joe Montana. Sure. When things get hot, The blood pressure gets low. He thrives on that moment, famously pointing out John Candy on the winning drive to beat the Cincinnati Bengals in the Super Bowl.

Isn't that John Candy in the stadium? Is that the way you are on the crisis? Do you slow down in that moment? You know, I think a lot of it is we're fortunate in the military, and I think in areas where you're taught leadership, you have experienced a lot. You've been trained a lot, and you have to rely on your training.

So, yeah, when I'm in the middle of a crisis, what appears to be a crisis from the outside, a lot of times this is something I've seen before, and I've been through numerous times before, and I know the game plan, if you have the Montana game plan, what am I going to do at this point in time? Helicopter goes down, what am I going to do?

Well, I got a backup helicopter. You know, we have a mass casualty. What am I going to do?

Well, I've got a medevac standing by to go do this.

So, a lot of times, again, I would tell you for me personally, yeah, this is part of my experience. I mean, when you spend 37 years as a Navy SEAL, you've seen a lot of crises, and you get better and better and better at dealing with them. Because you're experienced. And what you try to do in this book is get people ready to go should a crisis strike, even though we don't know what that looks like. Right.

Yeah, again, the book kind of lays out, if you will, kind of provides you some tools, lays out an approach for dealing with a crisis. And as you said, I think it's something, whether you're a CEO or whether you're dealing with a personal crisis, hopefully this book will be of value to you. And is this going to be a commencement address, too? No, I don't think so. But I'm sure a lot of the tools that I lay out here will find their way into a commencement address probably at some point.

The military and your family follow in your footsteps. Yeah, my son Bill was an Air Force officer for 20 years, and my daughter works in the government.

So I've been very blessed. Absolutely. And all the leave you've given to the country, we infinitely appreciate it. Admiral William McCraven, pick up his book, Conquering Crisis: 10 Lessons to Learn Before You Need Them. Back in a moment, Jonathan Greenblack.

Don't move, Brian. Kill me, Joe. Breaking news, unique opinions. Hear it all on the Brian Kill Me Joe. I don't know what Harvard is trying to hide by virtue of the lawsuit that they filed today.

It seems to me to be the best defense is a good offense. Instead of sitting down and explaining to the Office of Civil Rights at the Department of Education or the Division of Civil Rights at the Department of Justice why what they have been doing is not in fact a violation of the Civil Rights Act of 1964. I think it is. I think we have seen with our own eyes the evidence of anti-Semitism on the campus. And that is you, YouT, one of our newest hires and a great hire, fantastic radio host himself.

And just saying Harvard billion-dollar suit against the government after the government, the Trump administration, decides to hold billions back because of the anti-Semitism raging on their campus. They also want to look into their foreign policy acceptance program, foreign student acceptance program. They also want to find out about the anti-American views that exist in their political science department. And why is only 3% of your faculty conservatives? I don't care what political beliefs you have.

If you're going to be a 501c3, you should be unbiased, you would think. Jonathan Greenblatt is the CEO and national director of the Anti-Defamation League, the ADL. And we just joined, I did not know this, but congratulations, Time 100. Thank you. Top most significant people in the country and around the world.

Thanks so much. First off, your thoughts about what's happening over at Harvard, what's happening at Columbia. Look. Look, ADL is the oldest anti-hate organization in America, and we've never seen it like this before. And if you try to understand why anti-Semitism is expanding and intensifying, the universities are a super spreader of anti-Semitism, anti-Zionism, and anti-Americanism, Brian.

So when we look at Columbia and Harvard, I got to say the administration has taken some long Overdue steps. We needed to get these institutions under control. And hey, when a law enforcement agency abuses their power, they're put under consent decrees. The federal government has the right to say, We're giving you billions of dollars. We want to make sure that you're demonstrating accountability and, simply put, protecting the civil rights of all the students.

That's what Hugh is saying in the intro, and he is spot on in this regard. I want you to hear what Alan Dershowitz said last night, who was a professor there for years, cut 22. Harvard has the right to do terrible things and encourage students to do terrible things and have teachers teach terrible things, but they don't have the right to get money from the federal government. So they're going to lose this lawsuit because they have no right at issue here. They're not being discriminated against.

Their First Amendment rights aren't being in any way compromised. They don't have any real substantial legal claim, and they know it. Yeah, like Alan is spot on again. The university is not a person. The university doesn't have civil rights, but its Jewish students do.

And the civil rights of Jewish students, Brian, have been trampled upon, have been run over, and essentially not recognized for more than a year and a half since October the 7th. Look at this guy, Mahmoud Khalil. How did he even get in? He's from Syria, goes to England.

Somehow he gets sponsored. He gets admissions here. And then he's raising, he's starting these two anti-Israeli organizations, which I believe, according to some attorneys that are representing the families that I had on a couple of weeks ago, have direct links to Hamas. They're praising these Palestinians, these collegiate Palestinian organizations. A hundred percent.

I mean, at ADL, you know, we track extremists. We track these pro-Hamas groups on campus. On October the 8th, Before we even knew what exactly had happened on the seventh, other than the savagery, these groups were praising what Hamas had done. They were using Hamas' language in their statements, in their organizing toolkits, their talking points. But to Khalil.

Like, look, I will acknowledge everybody has free speech in this country. But you know what you don't have the right to do? Provide material support to a foreign terror organization. That is a violation of the criminal code.

So for as far as I can see, For Mahmoud Khalil, not based on what he said, which I might detest, but I think hate speech is the price of free speech. I think we've got to be willing to deal with things in democracy we detest. But his conduct, his conduct, handing out Hamas literature, trampling over the civil rights of Jewish students, blocking them from moving across the Quad at Columbia, like I'm sorry, not for his speech or his ideas, but for his conduct and his actions. I think this is a strong case for him. I mean, wasn't he handing out sheets with Sinoir's face on it?

Not only was he, I'll tell you a story.

So on Wednesday night, I think it was March the 5th, this group of students, including Khalil, who was one of the ringleaders, took over the library at Barnard. They took it over it. They seized it. They're all wearing kafias like they're ISIS fighters to conceal their identities because they know they're breaking the law. They streamed in.

They prevented other kids from leaving and they occupied the building until there was a bomb threat and the NYPD came. The next morning, I went there. Like I was there at 8 a.m. on Thursday morning the 6th, the neck less than 12 hours later. And I tell you something, the students who were there, I met with some of them, they handed me the literature that Mahmoud Khalil and the others were handing out.

They were there was a there was a brochure they were handing out Brian literally it said our narrative, Al Axa Flood from the Hamas Media Office. Like, you know, you can't do a bake sale for ISIS in front of the Barnard Library. You'd get arrested. You can't hand out the Al-Qaeda magazine. You'd get arrested.

And you can't hand out Hamas. Propaganda. What if the KKK took over that library? What do you think the reaction would have been? The NYPD would have stormed in.

Like you know what.

So some of the numbers that you have put out are unbelievable. The ADL says the number of anti-Semitic incidents in the U.S. hit a record high last year, 58% of the 9,354 incidents related to Israel, notably chants, speeches and signs at rallies.

So, this is, we're hitting all-time highs for all the wrong reasons. For me, you live it every day. But for me, this snuck up on me. It really did. I knew that there was a tendency towards the next generation of American Jews not to be pro-Israel.

But that's as bad as I thought it was.

Now it seems like the Republicans just seem to be the only ones who realize that Israel is one of our foremost and most necessary allies, the most reliable. What happened? I mean, there's a lot of things going on here. I think the reason why we've broken again another record for all the wrong reasons, like you said, is because of the normalization of anti-Semitism. And you've seen in these like woke circles anti-Zionism, which is just anti-Semitism, like in PC clothing.

Anti-Zionism is now sort of table stakes on much of the far radical left. It's terrible. And so, look, we saw literally nearly 200 assaults last year. 30% of which targeted Orthodox people. We saw.

Well, over 2,000 acts of vandalism. Like, I think it was closer to 2,600. And we saw more than 6,500 acts of harassment. It's crazy.

Well, uh do you think it comes from the Middle East? You think a lot of this anti-Americanism, the anti-Israeli, anti-Semitism is organized from the Middle East? I mean, when I saw them praising, the Iranian groups praising American students for what? We want what they have, oppression. I know.

You know, you're in the wrong line of work when the supreme leader in Tehran is praising you. Like, I think there are two sources, Brian, that really need consideration and investigation. Number one is Iran. The Islamic Republic of Iran is the largest state sponsor of terror in the world. You know, ADL is actually suing them on behalf of 180 victims of 10-7 who are American, either killed or wounded or otherwise kidnapped.

We're suing the Iranian government for $4 billion for their role in helping Hamas do the crime.

So, number one is Iran, and number two is Qatar. Like, Al Jazeera is a constant fire hose of hate. And by the way, here's what we need to remember: Iran, Qatar, these kids on these campuses, it's not just anti-Semitic, although it's. It is. It's anti-American.

It's anti-Western. Their goal is not just to tear down the little Satan, Israel, it's to destroy the big Satan, us. See, where do you look at Qatar? Because I know that Benjamin Yahoo was not upset that Hamas had a place, had a place there because they had somewhere to negotiate. Yeah.

And then they say that we're in a bad neighborhood. We have relations with Qatar, with Israel, and we got to replace with Iran. We have no army. Iran wants to take us over tomorrow. They can.

How do you feel about that explanation?

Well, look, like I appreciate the Prime Minister of Israel has got to do his foreign policy. He's got to do what he needs to to protect his country. But I'm focused here on the anti-Semitism and Al Jazeera, if we put it on right now, like I can say with certainty, you're just going to be overwhelmed with the propaganda, anti-American, anti-Israel, anti-Semitic.

So what I find interesting now is the former President of the United States was afraid to speak up against too hard against Uh Against Hamas and against the Palestinians. He felt as though he had to straddle a line. Is that because of him and Netanyahu not getting along? Or do you believe that Democrats really feel as though if you're too pro-Israel, you don't represent them?

Well, there are a couple of things.

So, number one, look, it was great that President Biden called himself a Zionist. No president had ever done that before. It's great he went to Israel a couple of weeks after 10-7. On the other hand, the folks in the White House who felt he needed to appease, like the DSA wing of the party, the AOCs and the Bernie Sanders and the Ilon Omars, like I don't know how to square that. What about the enclaves in Michigan?

Exactly. Like kowtowing to them, like literally going on bended knee to try to negotiate with these people. I mean, I don't know. I think Rashida Tlaib, in theory, represents her congressional district, but in reality, all she does is criticize our country. And all she does is, you know, express anti-Zionism.

Like, I don't understand it. I don't accept it. And she's a big problem. Last question. Professor John McWhater of Columbia told me that he believes that most of the faculty.

thinks Israel is a mistake. When the UN sanctioned Israel as a nation. It's despicable. Is he right? He's oh, he is, you know, John McWhorter's on faculty at Columbia.

He probably knows more than I do. I do think there's a lot of the kind of woke intelligentsia that hates Israel and hates America. We've got to deal directly with that. Professor Warder may be right. That's why I'm so glad the Trump administration is taking it on.

On discovery, they have to defend their curriculum and their lack of action. Congratulations, Jonathan Greenblack, great to have you in studio, as CEO and National Director of the ADL.

Now, the Brian Kilmead Show joins Fox Businesses Varney and Company with Stuart Varney live on your radio and on Fox Business. Here's Brian Kilmead.

So, when Stuart comes to me, I usually have a couple of minutes at the back end.

So, get online. I see out there, Sandra, New Jersey.

So, log in. Stuart Varney's on FBN. He's got the number one show. Him and Larry Kudlow exchanged number one slots, one and two. Especially now, when you look at what's happening in the market today, we are up 1.97%, up significantly.

And I think it's because, and I knew this, and I don't pretend to be a market expert. Part of the reasons is because just show me, Mr. President, you're going to do deals with our allies. You want to reconfigure our trade relationships.

So, let's listen in together. Do you want it? Eastern time, that means it's time for Brian Kilmead. Come on in, Brian. Yesterday, the 129th Boston Marathon, three race categories based on gender, but due to lax gender identity standards, male runners could compete in all three categories: male, female, binary.

That means, Brian, in the way I look at it, there's no protection for women. Absolutely not. What are these people, idiots? It's very simple. You create another category.

If you want to do it, it's the trans category. That's it. And if you're not happy with that, non-binary. If you check all three boxes, you're going to say, excuse me, I got to hand this back. You got to pick one.

Very simple. If you took the SATs as a kid, Stuart, I'm not sure what country you were in in high school, but they hand it back and go, you didn't fill in all the boxes, one motor vehicle. And if you simply check all three boxes, you can't run. Why does Boston have problems with their rules? Why do they make up everything?

If it's not their mayor pretending as if illegal immigrant criminals should be treated equally, it is something like this. Just dumb. Yeah, I mean, there's a lot of money involved for the winners. You can't have a biological male winning the female category. You can't have that and walking away with the money.

That won't work.

Now, I want to bring this to your attention.

Well, you know all about it. A Long Island town begging Trump to help save their district's Native American logo after a judge ruled against them. President Trump responded, I'll read part of it. I agree with the people in Massapequa, Long Island, who are fighting furiously to keep the Massapequa Chiefs logo, forcing them to change the name after all of these years is ridiculous. What's this all about, Brian?

It's on your home turf. Yeah, that's where I live. And here's the deal: it's the Massapique Chiefs, it's the Wanta Warriors. There's the Flaming Arrows over in Sachem. Long Island was filled with American tribes.

So you think to yourself, why would better salute than to name it after the people that were there? That's the name of the tribe that was there.

So now this governor says, I'm being politically correct, the same idiots who took Thomas Jefferson out of the State House out of the state. City Hall, excuse me, are the ones who say we want to get those Indian nicknames off the teams. Po, I contacted some of these Indian groups, American Indian groups. They are fighting for the towns that don't have thousands of dollars, millions of dollars to fight back number one or number two, go rebrand, take the name off the turf, take it off the school, take it off the school books. With this, with our education being so stressed after the pandemic, would you rather spend that on tutors for kids for extra help and extra facilities, cutting-edge technology?

Or do you want to spend it on, I think American Indians are insulted. Have you asked them? The answer is no. Are you afraid of the Kansas City Chiefs? You bet.

Are you afraid of the Golden State Warriors? You bet. But are you afraid of a small town in Long Island, Wantaw, or the Chiefs in Massapequa? No, you're not. Because you're a thuggish governor, Governor Hokul.

You're upset that Long Island doesn't vote for you, that Massapequa despises you, that Long Island will never go for any of your ridiculous. Policies. You're soft on crime. That's why they got the number one police force in Nassau County. The Nassau County executive is at war with the governor.

Bruce Blakeman is phenomenal, as you know. And now they want to strip these teams of American Indian names without even asking the American tribes they stand for. And I got to give my town credit for fighting back, and I think the Secretary of Education, Linda McMahon, is going to start fighting with him. If Sean Duffy's not fighting for congestion prices or to build Penn Station the right way, Donald Trump has got to help out with the names of towns. It's ridiculous.

It's a ridiculous state we live in. One of these days, Brian, you will tell us how you really feel. I'm just waiting for that day. You're there. Not yet.

Brian, you're all right. We'll see you again soon. Thank you. Thank you. And one thing: give credit to the president.

With all he's got going, he saw this. We were on the show on Sunday on One Nation, and I did this the other day on this show too. And if the American Indian tribes were against it, I'd probably just say, I'm not sure what the problem is, but if you guys really feel it's insulting to remember your culture, okay, maybe just back off. But when it turns out it's George Soros behind it, this politically correctness that benefits no one except for upsets America. Here's Frank Blackcloud.

He was on our show, Vice President of the Native American Guardian Association. He's up in North Dakota. He's an American Indian, Cut 41. It actually uplifts us that we are being recognized in that manner. You know, our heritage is rich within the fabric of America.

You know, if you go anywhere in this country, you're going to see road signs, names, cities, schools. You're going to see Native American imagery everywhere.

So, what the left is trying to do is they are trying to eradicate us from this land that we call home. And I believe we are the only culture here in America that if they erase us, we don't have a home to go back to. This is our home.

So, who are you fighting for? Who are you stripping? You guys want to be, everybody team wants to be, I don't know, the sparks. Every team's got to be, I don't know, the, you know, the, you can't even say fighting Irish. Do you know that some people are upset that Notre Dame is the fighting Irish?

They think it gives a pugilistic stereotype with the culture? Really? I mean, you could always find somebody that's insulted about something at some pi at some point. But are you kidding? You want everyone to be the heat?

You know, I mean, it's crazy. The Bucs.

So name it after an animal. It's nuts.

So, hopefully, people will fight back. You're listening to our WABT. Here is the president of the Massapico Board of Education, Cut 42. To think that one group all shares the same belief, I think that in itself is racist, right?

So we're all individuals, and to sit here and say that everybody feels one way or another, and so that the state's going to come in and decide, I think is ridiculous. And that's why we have a First Amendment. That's why we have these protections to say, hey, we can express ourselves the way we want. And, you know, here you have a Board of Education who is elected, duly elected by their community to represent their interests and their concerns, being told by a bureaucracy at New York State what they should do. And the federal court is saying that we don't have standing to represent our community.

And it's wrong, and they're fighting back. And I give them credit. I just wish they didn't have to spend so much money to do the right thing. Hey, go to Briankilme.com. I'm going to be on stage in Dayton, Ohio in June.

I'm going to be in beautiful Dallas, Texas in August, and I'll be in Richmond, Virginia in September. I want to see you in person, BrianKilme.com. From high atop Fox News headquarters in New York City, always seeking solutions, never sowing division. It's Brian Kill Mead. Hi, everyone.

So glad you're here. Brian Kill Me Joe coming your way. Dana Prino will be in the entire hour. A brand new book is out. I wish someone had told me the best advice for building a great career and meaningful life.

We have also a lot of things going on that we're following today, including a chance to talk to Secretary of Defense Pete Hagseth about all the controversial things swirling around. We'll bring you some of that. Also, I'm a little outraged. I cannot wait to talk to Dana about this, about. Uh I'm just reading About this editorial about Bill Maher.

And when you talk about curb your enthusiasm and the man behind it, Larry David. He says basically in a mocking tongue-in-cheek way what it was like to have dinner with Hitler. And compares it to Bill Maher, and use some of the quotes from Bill Maher describing Trump. This idiot actually thinks it's a clever thing to do to compare the current president. with over fifty percent of the country voting for him to Hitler.

Let's get to the big three. Number three. Harvard has the right to do terrible things and encourage students to do terrible things and have teachers teach terrible things, but they don't have the right to get money from the federal government. So they're going to lose this lawsuit. I hope so.

Harvard digs in to fight for their billions and sues Trump's for billions for cracking down on anti-Semitism and anti-Americanism and anti-conservative doctrine on their campuses. But by fighting, I believe Trump has won. Number two, the president wants America to get a fair deal. He's really trying to reverse not only decades of globalizing that have cost American jobs and Americans the ability to make a good living, but also it's about securing the country. And that's why I think the deals are starting to come.

The market's up 801 points as Vice President Advance closes in on a first major new deal with India. Despite India warned, excuse me, China warning, you better not cut a deal with America. Guess who's next? Japan and then South Korea. How will the markets respond?

Drumroll, please.

Well. Number I'm here to talk about the fact that. Yeah.

He represents A very big problem with this administration that they have no problem scooping somebody up based on tattoos and vibes and sending them to a foreign country's prison. That is Maxwell Frost, a Democrat congressman from Florida. The befuddling obsession with Kilmar Albrego Garcia by Dems. It will not subside as Trump and the courts fight about his expulsion tactics and more illegal migrant gangs find themselves in the crosshairs of Tom Holman's warriors. I mean, some of the things they're doing to pick these people up.

I didn't even know the names of these gangs, but they've been unwinding them. Can you imagine letting 8 million people in, 2.5 million gotaways, and getting mad that some people shipped out might be in trouble when they go back to the country that they left? Who cares where they left? I don't care about that MS-13 guy that might have a gang rivalry in another country. You don't tell me, you don't belong in Maryland.

You came here and you committed crime after crime.

So I'm done with you. How about this? The Congress, they asked the chairman and the speaker, can I have money to go to El Salvador? And they said no.

So Democrats want anyway. And the NRCC said is offering to pick up the tab for House Democrats eager to hang out with their new poster child in El Salvador, they write. Illegal immigrant MS-13 gang member and alleged domestic abuser. We have one condition: live stream the whole thing. Snap plenty of selfies with your MS-13 buddies, the same violent criminals you're trying to re-import into American neighborhoods to rape, kill, and terrorize.

If out-of-touch, House stems are so desperate to cozy up to violent gang members. The least they can do is let America watch the show. I love it. Send it as a troll over and over again. I don't get it.

I think the ads are going to roll right off. But listen to how clueless Jamie Raskin is. He's warning El Salvador. President Trump won't be around forever. We're not going to forget what you did.

Really? You are threatening a Central American neighbor. Who already signed up for the Belt and Road program, sadly? Under drum roll, please. Joe Biden It is now allowing China to infiltrate.

Trump is making inroads with them, and now you're threatening them. Listen to Jamie Raskin, Cut Eight. President Bukeley, who's declared himself a dictator, and the other tyrants, dictators, autocrats of the world, have to understand that the Trump administration is not going to last forever. We're going to restore strong democracy to America, and we will remember who stood up. For democracy in America, and who tried to drive us down towards dictatorship and autocracy?

Right. We're really going to make them pay the price. Do you think the leader of El Salvador could care less? He actually made those streets safer than the ones in Maryland, where you're from. He actually made them safer than the ones in New York, where I'm living.

So believe me, he's not worried about using American aid. What he's already done is got tired of waiting for it.

So, what he did is did it himself. And then went and did a deal with China, which I hope we can undo under Trump. But that's just how clueless they are. Good luck with that.

So look, were there some problems when they picked this guy up the way they did it? Out of all the people they picked up, he might have been one issue that they need to get a lawyer involved with. But I have no problem with anything else. I did not know this. ICE arrested this guy, Harpet Singh, an illegal immigrant wanted in his original country of India for connections with terrorist activities, including planning more than a dozen grenade attacks on police officials and is linked to another group I never heard of, BKI, a foreign terrorist organization.

BKI, they say, is a religious, extremist, separatist group and started in the late 1970s. It's been taking you, it has been, has taken... use and actually done political assassination, armed attacks. And guess what? He thought it would be a great idea to come here.

So they arrested him yesterday. Pretty cool.

So that's where we stand. In terms of shipping them out, getting them out legally. Jonathan Churley weighed in last night. Just on these cases of TDA and MS-13 and what the holdup is right now, because it was frozen on Saturday night, cut 11. You are going to need people like Chief Justice John Roberts and Barrett.

You're going to need them for major cases that will define the legacy of this presidency.

So there is a need to be cautious with these cases. And almost every case seems to go to the Supreme Court. Dana Perino just joined us in studio, according to our reporters on the scene. She's from America's Newsroom, co-anchor of The Five, and out with a brand new book, Today, called I Wish Someone Had Told Me, The Best Advice for Building a Great Career and Meaningful Life. Never been in a gang, though, right?

Um, I no. No, don't. I was trying to think of something clever. No, I was not in a gang. And I have no tattoos.

Do you? Want to show me? Gen X has no tattoos. Right, Gen X? You, Gen X?

Well, yes, aren't you? Yeah, I think I am. Yes, you are. We're the same age. Don't we have the same birthday?

Like around? Are you May 9th? Yes.

May 7th. There you go. There you go. Um couple of things. Do you believe that?

I thought that was so funny with the With the Republican Senate Committee did, and said, do me a favor, we will pay for the Codell for those House members if you take printed pictures and do some selfies with TDA and with MS-13 down in El Salvador. Doesn't it seem somewhat, I watched you last night, doesn't it seem somewhat surreal that this is still like the lead story everywhere? It is. It's one of those things where I think I was thinking of the phrase. Never meet your heroes.

Okay, because sometimes you'll be disappointed. But I was thinking about it this way: because Guttfeld's been saying on the five: why do the Democrats always pick the least favorable people or the least likable people or The least of us, right? To be the ones that they champion. George Floyd. Yeah, he had another one too.

I can't remember. Michael Brown. Yeah, Hands Up, Don't Shoot. That turned on Jesse Smollett. And then they go to the mat for them.

And then they get embarrassed, and then, well, okay, then they just move on to the next one. This one I think is gonna stick for a while. It's not that I don't think that every day I wake up. believe that the administration is going to find an off-ramp here. To take Garcia, say, okay, bring him back here, and now we're going to send him to this third country, which is what they should have done in the first 24 hours, and then we wouldn't be dealing with this.

The president's about to celebrate the first 100 days or mark the occasion, and he has a lot to celebrate. For example, the number one issue for Americans was either the border or immigration, border or the economy. On the border, he solved it. In days. No, it didn't take 100 days.

It took less than 20 days. To reverse what Biden had allowed.

Now, the difficulty is: one, reminding everybody that he did that, except for the last four weeks, this story has been. Leading the news cycle. But in a way, it's not as bad. I mean, it's not a good idea. No, it's not as bad because the Democrats made it worse.

Yeah, because he kind of likes it. It's like, let's look at this guy. Wife beat her. How do we know? In her own hand, she wrote the police report out how brutal it was.

And then you have MS-13. I look at the police report. You have gang, these gang experts say this guy is, this is what he is.

So if you know on that point, that's also written out. I was watching Shannon Bream on Fox News Sunday. And we're watching the Chris Van Hollen. Interview, and when she asked him, Did you ask him if he was in a gang, MS-13? And he goes, No, I didn't know because I already know the answer.

And I was like, wow. I can't believe that because MS-13 has been A horrible evil presence in Maryland.

So the constituents. that he says he's concerned about had been having They've been dealing with the consequences of MS-13 being in their area. Right. And he says, he's like, I already know what his answer to that is.

So it doesn't matter who he is. No, it matters everything about who it is. It doesn't for a legal expert like Andy McCarthy. I understand Andy was on with you. He was on with me too.

He's like, Brian, he shouldn't have been shipped out. He made a mistake. Just go grab it. Yeah, just go fix it. Senator Kennedy said the same thing.

He's like, well, he's a bad guy. Admit it. But just, you know, we shouldn't have sent him there. You know what's interesting? When they picked him up, they asked him, Are you afraid to go back to El Salvador?

You know what he said? No.

He said no. Right. So that's a little important.

So let's talk about your book. I read last night. Thanks for including me in it. Thank you for your time. And thanks for your night words for your introduction.

But I started reading it at the same time, Caitlin, my daughter, is graduated from college. Perfect.

So she graduates in June. Yep. And she's going to. Good job, Dad. That's the second child to graduate from college.

Yeah, well, they're all graduating this year. Brian from law school. Congrats. Kirsten from getting her master's in education. Wow.

And then Caitlin's going to get. Wait, Caitlin's the youngest? Youngest. Oh, my gosh. Life goes by fast.

Yeah.

I thought there was still one younger.

Okay. No, I'm sorry for brushing her. But no, she's going to be out soon. You would. I'm biased, but unbelievable personality.

But she's the one who didn't know exactly what she wants to do next. And that's why Gutfeld's description was really interesting because, you know, don't say follow your passion. Find out what good people are. You meet good people when you go out and get involved in things, and then you work your way through. Don't look to get your career right away.

Also, what Michael, what Mike Rowe said. He said that you date your job, you marry your career, your career is your spouse. And he says, and there's a difference. Right, as usual. Yeah, I loved putting this book together.

It started with the first book I wrote that was purely about mentoring. This is my fourth book total, but that book was called Everything Will Be Okay. And I remember we got it for your girls at the time. Yep. Right?

Because it was good for them. And then. I realized post-COVID that a couple of things were happening. One, work had changed. Artificial intelligence is coming, and I still had people that I'd been mentoring for 10 or 15 years coming to me with questions, but now they're executives, they're becoming moms and dads, they're managers, and they're also starting to deal with all the other things of life, which is.

Is there something more to this? Than just work, and I still have all the people asking what should I do.

So I was like, let me just refresh this. But I don't have all the answers. I'm not a mom. And also, I did not want this book solely to be for young women. I really wanted to broaden it out so that it was for men and women.

So I went and asked people like you, Mike Rowe, Trey Gowdy, Jesse Waters, everybody from the five participated. Everyone on Fox and Friends, Charles Payne, for example, Dirk Spentley is a friend of mine. Had him in there, Paul Morrow, who I think is an incredible addition to Fox News, but one of our best friends. Right, talking about career changes. Right.

Or so like you talk about how you got started and how you knew that when that red light turned on for the first time, you loved it. Right. I love being on the CB radio. I used to. I love that.

What was did you have a walkie-talkie name? Yes.

I was, for some reason, I was Red Badger. I was I was um Big Bird. You were my sister was Cookie Monster. Right. Now, did you have a home unit or because mine was hooked to the car?

It was in the car because on the, it was not in Denver, but on my family's ranch. That's how they would communicate with each other. Oh, so you actually needed it. Oh, yeah. It was my toy.

Because with us, I mean, there was no on-star.

So I would convince my, I remember convincing my father, you got to get it, and then just putting, I didn't realize it was an accessory on the car.

So I would just put the car on, and I would just sit in the car and talk to strangers. What could go wrong? And I just, one time I totally drained the battery. I was like, what's wrong? I'm like, I thought I could leave it on.

He goes, not that way. You got to turn to the left. Oh, my God. It's a good memory. Dana Prino has got her book out.

It's called, I Wish Someone Had Told Me, Destined to Be Number One. Don't Be Last to Get It. The best advice for building a great career in a meaningful life. She's going to be with us a little bit longer. Dana, sticking around.

Don't move. Increasing your intelligence quotients. What the hell did you say? It's Brian Kilmead. The fastest three hours in radio.

You're with Brian Kilmead. Welcome to El Salvador, home to breathtaking sunsets, world-class surf breaks, and gangbanger Kilmer Abrego Garcia. El Salvador is the destination for Democrats, seeking the thrill of bringing violent criminal illegal aliens back to America. And that is a little of the ad that was just put out by Republicans who can't believe they're in this fight. Dana Prino is here.

Her book is out. I wish someone had told me the best advice for building a great career and meaningful life. Dana, do you like the sarcasm, am I correct? On that ad? I thought it was historical.

Yeah, it's fantastic. But know what I like about just getting back to your book for a second. I like the fact that you're doing this and I'm sure you figured this out on graduation. And it's not so much high school. High school's June in New York anyway, Northeast.

But May, that's when people usually get out. It is, and there's also two things. Everybody has that end of school feeling and that back to school feeling. And that lasts your entire life. And so, because this book is not just for people who are just graduating high school, it really, for me, I think it's for ambitious high schoolers through to like age 40, 45.

Men and women, right? And I also think that it's good for managers of younger people because we don't have all the answers when we get older. And you have to have some sort of fresh ideas to pass along. I was really impressed with, for example, Greg Gutfeld's advice. I think that it's very, very good.

One of the things I asked him about was what it was like to be fired so many times. And he talks about how it was always blessings. Because he would take risks, he got fired. He's like, okay, well, I'll pick myself up and move on and be able to succeed. And he has wildly.

So there's a lot in there for people, not just graduates, but certainly May is a time when people start to think, all right, I'm ready for a little self-improvement and a kick in the pants.

So Charles Payne is a fascinating story, too. Unbelievable. He grew up and it was relatively middle class. His family used to get divorced.

Well, they were in his military family. Military family. Yep. And when he was a young kid until he was about 11 or 12, he used to wear a suit to school. And he carried a briefcase to school.

He was Alex P. Keaton. There was an estrangement in the marriage of his parents, and one day, um and he talks about this in his own book in his life. Uh his dad had some PTSD from Vietnam, and there was some trouble in the marriage. The mother one day tells the boys.

Charles and his two brothers. it's time to go. And she drove them up to Harlem and they lived in one bedroom, all four all four of them together, in a two bedroom apartment of her mother's. And all of a sudden he found himself going to school in Harlem and He talks about how trying to hide his light, right? That the worst thing you could do was to seem smart.

So he he dialed things back. And education to him is so important. And I really love talking to him about that for his life. He was also fearful of safety. He said it was a really rough neighborhood, and he understood both sides of it.

And he also talked about his first job was one where he was working in a bodega, and the guy gave him a ton of responsibility. And he loved it, but he had to deal with bullies every day, like amazing things that he came. Through in order to be our colleague today. Right, and you got to see how hard he works to prepare for the investment of ours. And how much he gives back.

You know, that's another part of this book. I did a large chapter called What Do You Do Afterwards? Like, how do you make it meaningful? Like, he's a volunteer for the Boys and Girls Clubs of Harlem, and it's amazing. Absolutely.

Dana Prino, some more time, quality time with her. Big day. I wish someone had told me. The talk show that's getting you talking. You're with Brian Kilmead.

You remember when this all started, the first go-around? Because this is the second go-around, right? They peddle old stuff, they kick it back up. I said repeatedly, no one's texting war plans. You know why I said that?

Because I'm in the bowels of the Pentagon every single day. Just 10 minutes ago, I was looking at actual war plans of things that were ongoing or pending things to happen. Because that's on a regular basis on classified systems. That's my job for the warfighters, for the President of the United States. I look at war plans every single day.

What was shared over Signal, then and now, however you characterize it, was informal, unclassified coordinations for media coordination and other things. That's what I've said from the beginning. At the beginning, it was left-wing reporters from the Atlantic who got a hold of it and then wanted to create a problem for the president. This is what it's all about, trying to get at President Trump and his agenda.

So that was Pete Hexeth, the Secretary of Defense, who joined me earlier about this whole signal situation that he had at the same time with the first Houthi attacks. We've hit him for like 18 straight days, by the way, Dana. But he was just saying that it was in that signal chat was not top secret information. We haven't seen that yet. Uh they did have a name for it.

Uh they did name it. I've wrote it down here somewhere. Clubhouse or Or here it is. Uh the huddle, team huddle. was the name of that group that had his brother and and wife on it.

So your thoughts about where Pete goes from here.

Well, I think that he came on Fox and friends this morning to help try to clarify things. And what I heard from him is that he would much rather be focused on everything that he needs to do that is a huge, huge job. I know. So much to do. He doesn't want to have to be dealing with this kind of thing.

But that's why you have to run a tight chip so that you don't have to deal with this kind of thing. And I think that there are still some unanswered questions. The signal chat stuff, I feel like. Not good, but also something that you move on from and be like, oh, whoops, I guess we can't do it that way. We have to find another way to communicate.

I get that. And maybe the government needs to come up with a better way for everyone to communicate.

So I think that that can be dealt with pretty easily. I guess I, to be honest, I've read a lot, but I'm still confused about the people who have been let go within his inner circle. These are people that he's known for a long time. They are close with him, but now they're being characterized as disgruntled employees. They're doing interviews.

They're out and about. And one thing that the DC media loves, not just DC media, is a story like that. And it's hard to make that go away if the people that were fired don't know And don't understand why they were fired, and they want to clear their name. And if you are going to insult them by saying that they're disgruntled employees, That usually will mean that they will retaliate in some way.

So, I don't know how this ends. I feel like we're kind of at the beginning of the story, not at the end. But I just know how much longer he's only been there 100 days.

So, I mean, it's three days. Not even that, because it took him a while to get confirmed. That's absolutely true.

Now, did you have Pete in your book? He is, no. Joey Jones is in the book.

Okay, got it. Yep. So, a couple of things. I love the way you structured it. First off, I just thought it was going to be a series of essays.

I did the games do count. 72 people just did their essays and gave my opinion after. What you did is meet the people. Had the questions, and then you would let them, different people answer questions throughout the book. Why did you format it like that?

Well, I wanted, again, I don't have all the answers, and I have a lot of great people in my life that have succeeded. Get all the questions. Most of them came from nothing, right? And had some struggles along the way, as everybody does. And that's kind of like the rich part of life is great.

The other thing is, I wrote everybody's little bio with great affection because I appreciate their time. I know how busy everybody is, and that they were willing to give me thoughts about, for example, Martha McCallum talking about as a young mother, she would never let herself think more than three months ahead. And I thought that was advice worth passing on so that. For the young mothers I'm now mentoring, they can understand like, okay, you don't have to worry about how they're going to get into college when they're still just going to daycare. Like, in order to figure out a way to love those moments, or what it's like to decide to leave a job.

I talked to Trey Gowdy about that. He left the prosecutor's office in order to run for Congress. He was in Congress and he thought, you know what? This isn't working for me either. I've done what I came to do, and now you can move on.

I also talked to my friend Michelle Chase. She's fabulous. She is a human resources expert. You can ask her anything about When to leave a job, what's best on a resume? Dan Barr, actually, I met this guy.

He's incredible. He grew up on Long Island near where you grew up. And his name is Dan Barr. His dad was a firefighter. I think his brothers are as well.

He worked his way up, has his own sort of human resources consulting firm, works with mid-sized companies all across the country. His HR advice is excellent. One thing I love about this guy, father of four, one of his sons, I think the oldest, he became a Navy SEAL. And do you know that that young man is now about to? I don't, what, did you graduate from preschool?

Priesthood school. Seminary? Yeah, seminary. He's going to become a priest. Can you imagine?

And maybe he'll priest? That's unbelievable. I've never heard of that in my life. I said, that's a great character for a book. Oh, my goodness.

As Peter said, my husband, he said, yeah, he could kill you, but he won't. That's a great slogan. What about Jimmy Phil? Oh, yeah. Jimmy says, you asked the question, what are your natural talents?

How does one discover their own natural talents? This would help Katie. The way to identify, he says, is to look at the tasks you do day-to-day life and notice what you're good at, what's effortless. Maybe it's training your pets or fixing things when they're broken in the house. The point is, we're all better at some things.

Find out what that is. And also, I love that advice from Jimmy. I love the fact that he was driving a taxi to make ends meet, and then he was writing jokes at four in the morning in order to try to keep fresh and to make some money that way. He would do stand-up at night. He would also do networking.

You talk about that. I asked, what is the best advice you've been given and what is your favorite piece of advice to give? And you talked about how networking is key and giving back is key. One of the things that you do is something that I do, but you do it in a great way, where you have these big networking lunches for the staff here at Fox. I learned about those and thought that is genius and also super generous of you.

But I felt bad because none of the 20-somethings, number one, couldn't go to the office. They get hired, never saw anyone during the pandemic. Number two is that they weren't talking to each other. And so they were on different floors. And one of the kids I coached, now they're not kids, they're in their 20s, is in the accounting firm.

And no offense to accountants, but they're not like they don't have the personalities that we have, like the more outgoing, we have to interact with how many people every day?

So I go, what if they could just meet each other? And then they start little speeches and they start talking about it. This is something I think that this book is very good for young people that have anxiety.

So, if you know somebody, even I would say, like in their 20s and 30s, if you have somebody who is very anxious, I think that this book can help because, one, it makes you realize: okay, I'm not alone in having some of these thoughts. But, two, there's some very practical things in there. For example, my particular advice is you have to make yourself go to one or two events a month. And that's not a lot.

Okay, a month goes by pretty quickly, but if you are planning to get out there, you have to have something. And one of the best questions to start off with at an event like that is, Hey, tell me how did you make your first dollar? Those are great questions. But let me ask you, how did you make your first dollar? My first dollar was probably what was I sell?

I think I might have been selling something. How did I make my first dollar? I think the first job I ever had was washing dishes. Literally, washing dishes in a catering hall. I mean, there was no glory to it.

The other thing I got duped, there was this place called Pizzeria Una. I'm like, wow, they go, I'm going to be a waiter for the first time, not a busboy, I'm going to be a waiter.

So I'm waiting tables and I'm like noticing, like, why are these why are the pans is anyone here washing these pans? They go, oh, we take shifts. Three of us wait the tables, one washes the dishes, and we rotate. I go, wait a second.

So I had to wash deep dish pizza pans and then go out and wait on people. I was smelly. I was soaked. I felt like I was duped. I still haven't gotten remuneration for that, but it was kind of cool.

People felt bad for me. I would just say, listen, sorry, I'm sweaty. I was washing dishes. They didn't tell me I had to do that. One of the practical pieces of advice I have in there is I talk a lot about my personal relationship with Peter and how none of what I have achieved would matter at all without him.

And we talk about, I said something about our first date when we were in New Orleans after we met on the airplanes about six weeks later. And we went to breakfast and he was paying the bill. And I said, make sure to double the tip. And he said, What? And he hadn't heard this before because in England it's not as big a deal.

I said, But I waited tables, and breakfast is the hardest meal, in my opinion, because people are very particular about how their eggs are cooked and their coffee and their toast because they want it exactly how their mom made it. And it's just annoying as can be. And the price point isn't that high.

So the agitation for the waiter is higher. The service requirement is higher, but the bill is lower.

So you get like, you know, a dollar on a meal. No, always double or triple the breakfast tip.

So there's like big, broad things like. You know, be curious because that will help you in life. Be humble, but also like double the tip. It'll make you better. But also, didn't you say to yourself you felt attracted to him, you met him, but didn't you say to him you didn't know if you should follow through or not?

Well, that was, it was. I knew I wanted to be with him.

So, just so the audience knows, he's 18 years older than me. He's British. I met him on an airplane. And I was working on Capitol Hill. I had a pretty good career trajectory at the time.

And What I was mostly worried about was, I liked the idea of the adventure of going to be with him. I was mostly afraid of what people would think about me deciding to be with a man who was 18 years older than me. And I was so obsessed with what other people would think about me. And then a family friend pulled me aside at Christmas and says, Tell me about him, what's going on? Tell me everything.

And I said, Well, I'm just sort of and she said, Oh. Do not give up on this chance to be loved, it might be your only shot. And my biggest piece of advice that I pass on to everyone is that choosing to be loved is not a career-limiting decision. It doesn't have to be. Right.

It couldn't have been. It can make all the difference. Yes.

Your career might look different. There might be compromises in terms of where you live, depending on what your spouse does, but it has been the biggest difference maker in my life.

Now, do you think Bill Belichick heard that story and that's what he's doing? Because he's dating a 24-year-old and he's 70. They look like they're having a lot of fun. They do, really, don't they? She doesn't seem to care what anyone thinks.

And neither does he. And that's another piece of advice I remind people in here in the essays that I write for the book is that just when you think that everybody else is thinking about you and judging you, you have to remember they're not. Because they're thinking about themselves. It's just human nature. You always think about yourself and how everything is going to affect you first.

So Jerry Colangelo owns the Phoenix Suns, right?

Okay. So I asked him when he was in my book, It's How You Play the Game. I said, if they won pro, they weren't eligible for it.

So what was your most indelible moment, right? And he said, well, I was a pretty good athlete and it's in seventh grade. And they go, we're going to do layups.

So I said, okay.

So everyone lined up at the right side. He goes, no. Who's ever on the right side, go to the left. Who's ever on the left side, go to the right. And he was the first to go, and he didn't know how to develop his left hand.

So, in front of, he says, maybe 60, 70 people, he blows the layup. And he goes, you're cut. He goes, You're cut. He goes, You have to develop because I'm I'm You have to develop your whole game. Don't just think you're going to be a one-handed player.

He walks home. Right. He plays practices every single day. He's going to show the coach, going to show the coach up. He comes back.

The same thing, nails the layup, does his plays ends up being captain of the team, ends up being all the way through high school. He meets the coach again and he tells the coach the story. He goes, I don't remember any of that. That moment it means so much to you. They don't really Like think about it, like we put too much thought into what they're doing.

Oh my gosh, that reminds me of when I got kicked out of the Oval Office one time. And I was a deputy and I had just started. I was went there for Dan Bartlett to do an interview prep for the president. But then the president didn't want to do the interview because he thought it was an off-the-record conversation with David Ignatius about Iran. But David Ignatius thought it was an interview, and I was just there to help brief.

And the president says, I'm not doing an interview with him, and therefore she doesn't need to be there. Be here. And he looked at me and went like cocked his head to the right, like show to show me the door. I melted. I wanted to die.

I had only worked there for like a week. And I went to my office, I pulled my little pocket door behind me, and I called my husband, and I was tearful. I didn't cry, but I was tearful. And he said, What happened? And I told him.

And Peter said, Well, just think, for the rest of your life, you can say, I've been kicked out of better places than this. Again, Peter being the hero. 10 years later. I'm on the book tour with President Bush, and I'm just trying to like entertain him. And I said, Oh my gosh, sir, do you remember when you kicked me out of the Oval Office?

And he said, I never kicked you out of the Oval Office. I said, No, don't you remember? And I remember, I remember every single detail. I remember what I was wearing. I remember I can still feel that shame and the humiliation and everything.

And then the president goes, No, Dana, I don't remember that at all. And then he goes, Are you still upset about it? And I said, A little. And he goes, I think you can let it go. Wow.

So it's just amazing. Like, you know, or for example, let's say, how many times has this happened, whether it's a boss or somebody you know, and they'll walk by you? And you're like, wow, what's that person mad at? What did I do to them? Right?

And next thing you know, it's like, I I wouldn't don't even remember that. Like you interpret what per someone's body language, that's what I would do, so therefore you project that on them. I don't know if any of your children are like this, but I'm like this. I would wake up in the morning, and before I had left my room, I had thought I was in trouble for something. Like I would anticipate like my dad must be mad at me for something.

Ev like he never was. But I would be like, Oh my gosh, what did I do wrong? And so when President Bush would call me to the Oval Office, he would ask his assistant, he's like, ask Dana to come over and tell her nothing's wrong. And do you know who does that today? Jay Wallace, our boss.

He does that. Yeah, yeah. If I, I mean, it's a rare occurrence. Yeah, he'll be like, hey, Dana, can you come by? And it's nothing bad.

Like, okay, thanks. A few more minutes with Dana Prino. Her book is out today. I wish someone had told me the best advice for building a great career and a meaningful life. And Dana, you got some money this morning because I downloaded it.

So I'm an e-book guy. Back in a moment. It's Brian Killmead. He's so busy, he'll make your head spin. It's Brian Kilmead.

So a quick note. First off, special thanks to President Trump. Yesterday, Dana, I don't know if you know this, but my town is getting pressure to change the name Chiefs. My neighboring town Warriors, everyone in New York has got to get rid of all references to American Indians. Oh, I've read about this.

This is crazy. Yeah, so my town is fighting back. The other towns. What are they going to call it? Right.

So, yeah, they're. Smith Town? There's the name of Smith Town. Oh, my God. There was a Smith Town Long Island.

But they have, if you have Warriors, Flaming Arrows, Flaming Arrows, I'm not kidding. Chiefs, which is us. Braves, you have to change it.

So Massapiqua's been fighting back. When the president heard about it, he put it on Truth Social last night.

So Bruce Blake is thinking, yeah, hopefully it'll win over. Because I honestly think, like, when I got a chance to go to Massapiqua, your town, remember, I've always said, like, that's one of the most patriotic places I've ever seen in America. That's where Jonathan Diller had. Remember the big turnout for Jonathan Diller's funeral? Yes, yes, I know, and it's a beautiful town.

It has to be, I will always call it Massapequa. They will try to change. I bet you they're coming for the Indian tribe name next. Montauk is Indian tribe. Wontau, Indian tribe.

Sataukit. And it's crazy. I bet these Indian tribes don't want that. No, in fact, I contacted them and they got in touch with me and they say, We're fighting for Mass Piqua for free. When I was at the University of Illinois Springfield, that was when they wanted to get rid of Chief Illinois.

Do you remember? He was like the mascot for the fighting Illini. And the legislature was like, oh, we can't do this. It's so mean to the Illini. And the Illini were like, no, actually, we love it.

Do you know the Redskins? The Reds, you know that. Real quick, John Roberts is in your book. Yes.

So diverse. I didn't want to be a musician for a while. I wanted to be a doctor. He was a DJ up in Toronto, kind of in the Janice Dean days. He worked in Lumberyard.

He wanted to be a doctor. And then actually, he was working for CBS News when I was a deputy press secretary.

So I got to know him over the years. He does have a very rich, diverse background. And he's raising twins now. And I love the stories of parenthood that he talks about and how you have to really, you know, love every moment and be present in your children's lives so that you can enjoy yours too. Absolutely.

So, Dana, do you feel good about this book? This seems like a book tour that you want to go on, right? I have to say, I read it again on Sunday so I'd be fresh for this book tour. And I put it down and I told Peter, huh? It's pretty good.

So when do we see you? Do you have any book signings or anything coming up? There's going to be something on May 2nd. The Little Point Bookshop is selling the tickets. You came, you've done book signings there.

It's going to be in an auditorium at one of the schools down there.

So tickets are available at littlepointbookshop.com. Not a ton, right? You know, I've got two shows.

Well, I've also, I have these two shows. I really want to do that. We also have a very exciting event coming up. It's not announced yet. It's going to be Thursday, May 1st.

Stay tuned. I can't wait to tell you about it. All right. You've got to come back then? Sure.

All right. Pick up the book. It's out now. I wish someone had told me the best advice for building a great career and meaningful life. Thanks for listening, everyone.

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