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April 21, 2025 12:45 am

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April 21, 2025 12:45 am

Protesters on college campuses are facing a backlash as President Trump takes action against institutions accused of promoting anti-Semitism and ideological rot. Meanwhile, a new university in Texas is pioneering a different approach to higher education, prioritizing open debate and true academic freedom.

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Visit the website for full terms and conditions. You'll meet. Hope you're having a fantastic weekend and enjoyed your Easter coming up on this special edition. Mark Thiessen and Bhatia Ungar Sargon will break down what's going on on college campuses and the fight to straighten it all out.

Is it possible? And Carly Shimpius on the media moments that matter the most to her and hope for you. Oh, and we have a co host quiz with one Ainsley Earhart and Lawrence Jones. But first, the fastest, most impactful monologue in America. The theme this week, restoring order in academia. Protesters have been raging on college campuses, fearing a sweeping crackdown by the Trump administration. Well, there's already a backlash because they're cracking down already. But the thing is that they're forgetting is how bad and intense these protesters were. And the protests were a year ago. The violence that we witnessed and just, I guess, took in because we had a different administration. Remember the taking over of buildings, the mayhem? Yeah, we are Hamas.

Remember that? This is why President Trump is taking action. Conservatives, you know, they were never happy about what was going on on the college campuses across the country, especially the Ivy Leagues across the nation. And rightfully so. I mean, the first target appropriately was Colombia.

It's accessible because of their affiliate Barnard College, because they had the anti Semitism rise up again just a few months ago. The reaction has been swift. The ousting of foreign students, radical foreign radical students. These guys are out of control and some women. And Colombia's reaction to the blowback was in the freezing of the $400 million was, Mr. President, how do I get the money back? How do I get that money on frozen?

All right. And they said they were going to do the things necessary to get the money back. But the Harvard response is the story.

It's been much different. They want to fight it. They want to sue. I think Harvard is faced with a choice, and it seems like they're making the wrong choice, which is to double down on these crazy ideas that most Americans don't agree with and to pay the price for that. So I think it's a good thing that Harvard's being forced to put its money where it's not.

And he goes there. It's also I think Princeton's going to do the same thing because they have their funds frozen, too. But let's just wait for them. I think this is where the trouble starts for these schools because they will be exposed from the money for policy to research.

Right. What do they do with that money from the admissions are this is going to be a self-inflicted autopsy. Remember their admissions? No affirmative action. Well, are they actually using affirmative action?

My sense is the answer is yes. Are they ready to defend their anti-American curriculum, certainly their anti-Western curriculum? My sense is they're not ready for the blowback the American people will have. Also, what about the idiotic decision to hire failed mayors and paying big bucks like Bill de Blasio and Lori Lightfoot? What could they possibly teach students about government that's good, do the opposite? And to justify their research, we're going to ask to see where the billions of dollars are going.

What discoveries did you make? And by the way, how much faculty did you hire and where is the money? Can you really continue to get billions of dollars in grants when you have 50 billion dollars in the bank and also be tax exempt with a 501 C with that status, which, as you know, requires you be unbiased and apolitical? Does anybody think these Ivy League institutions are unbiased and apolitical? You know, you got former Harvard professor Jordan Peterson, good friend of the show.

He saw this problem firsthand. Conservatives have been asleep at the wheel for four generations by allowing the incompetence, the malevolent incompetence of the faculties of education to certify the people who are teaching their children. So if it's devolved down to the state level, at least there'll be a diverse range of choices and the Liberals and the Conservatives will have a fighting chance against the progressive mob. Yeah, they like to fight people like him off. So, okay, schools want to fight.

That fight might be one of the worst decisions they've ever made. I don't care about the quality of their case because, by the way, the case is weak. In an effort to defend themselves, which they're going to do, they're going to expose themselves. And when it comes to the Trump team coming around to prove their case, I don't think these institutions are going to like where the facts lead them. The violence on their campuses just one year after the worst violence we saw in Israel in decades is something that cannot be forgotten.

Something's got to be done. What president wouldn't want to reform this? The protests we continue to see go way beyond just anti-Israel.

They're anti-Jewish, they're anti-Christian, and they're anti-Western. Why wasn't the last Secretary of State and the last president, Antony Blinken, by the way, and Joe Biden, deporting anti-American people on those campuses? This started before Trump took office. It shouldn't be all on Marco Rubio to act, but his message is clear. If you come to this country as a student, we expect you to go to class and study and get a degree. If you come here to like vandalize a library, take over a campus and do all kinds of crazy things, you know, we're going to get rid of these people. We identify lunatics like these, we take away their student visa.

No one's entitled to a student visa. Right, and hundreds have been told, there's the door. In my view, Harvard and maybe Princeton, you've lost when you decided to fight. And joining us now to expand on this is journalist and author of Second Class, Bhatia Ungar Sargon, and Fox News contributor, great friend of the show, and of mine, dare I say, he writes for the Washington Post, but he's really happiest when he's on Fox News. And I'm walking behind you, Bhatia, don't be, I feel it's a little rude. Welcome, guys, great to see you.

My all star panel. First up, Bhatia, to you, your thoughts about what's about to happen on the Ivy Leagues. Is the nation going to rally around Harvard or around Trump? I could not love this story more.

I mean, this is a real emperor has no clothes moment. I love what the president is doing here because what he effectively did was he opened the gates for Harvard to set its own reputation on fire. Trump said to them, you get two billion dollars from the taxpayers of this country, the hardworking taxpayers of this country. All we want to see is that you stand for the values that you claim to. How about not bringing in foreign students who hate this country and hate the Jews? How about having ideological diversity? How about submitting to a plagiarism check on all of your professors and all of your administrators? And what Harvard said was, heck, no, we're not going to do that.

We would rather pay a two billion dollar tax and we're actually going to euthanize our own puppies rather than not import anti-American students into this country. It is absolutely amazing. I love this story. I want it to keep going on and on and on. Harvard, keep fighting.

Maybe. Mark, what do you think? Are they right to fight for billions of dollars or was Columbia right to say, what do I need to get this right? Well, first of all, when the news came that Donald Trump had frozen two billion dollars, two point two billion dollars that going to Harvard, most Americans said we're giving two point two billion dollars to Harvard. Why the hell are we giving two point two billion dollars to Harvard? So this has elevated the fact that we're giving billions of dollars to these elite, a feat, Ivy League universities.

And at a time when the doge is trying to cut a few billion dollars here and there, this is the perfect place to do it. Second of all, they say the government can't tell us what to do. Well, that may be true if you don't take federal money.

But if you take federal money, they can tell you what to do. But I like to know where the research money is going. How much is an overhead? How much is actual experiments? I want to know why these foreign students get places over American students, how much they're getting, what are their grades and who are these people? Here's what Harvard said.

The government has long exempted universities from taxes in order to support their educational mission. Such an unprecedented action would, in date meaning the freezing of funds, endanger our ability to carry out our educational mission. So it's a desperate situation for a university that only has 50 billion dollars left in their savings.

I know. How are they going to afford to keep these puppies alive? You know, here's the larger problem, which is that it's not just that we have seen the ideological rot at these godless institutions. It's that thanks to President Clinton and President Obama, thanks to NAFTA and Obama's defunding of vocational training, what they effectively did was they narrowed the lane to the American dream that it has to go through these godless institutions. The pathway to the American dream goes through an institution that hates America. The hardworking people of this country who love this country will not be able to afford a home.

But every one of those student protesters at that pro-Hamas rally, they will. That is the true outrage here that President Trump has exposed. So as you know, as we change gears, guys, we're in the middle of a trade war, mainly with China. And one of the questions is, what's happening with TikTok? I believe it's a spying device. I want it banned. Congress wants it banned. The president says, I want to sell it. And here's what he said at the end of the week about what's happening with the TikTok deal, and then we'll discuss it. We have a deal for TikTok, but it'll be subject to China, so we'll just delay the deal till this thing works out one way or the other.

And I think it's a good deal for China. Hey, Mark, they're looking to control what American people think in Iran. We have to ban this thing.

This is an opportunity to ban it. And if you read some of the feed, and I'll show you some examples, China's taken advantage of their access to the American public. Well, they're showing us right now what their true colors are because they're using this platform to attack Trump over his trade policies with China. You know, one of the arguments of the people who disagree with Donald Trump, who want to shut it down now, and he's standing there saying, I want to see if we can cut a deal to save it, one of their arguments is, if we ever get into a conflict with China, they're going to weaponize it because they can control the algorithm, they can control what people are watching, they're following, they're gathering information on them to know what influences them, and now they're weaponizing it against Trump in the trade war. They're proving the point of all the critics of TikTok by doing that. So, this is a really bad miscalculation on the part of TikTok.

So, Baty, you want an example? I don't mind what TikTok Mark is and you aren't, but here's an example of what TikTok's been showing. Watch. This bag from our factory only cost you $1,000 USD.

The fees on site, a deal cardigan property costs you around $2,000. But here, a similar quality only costs $50. Welcome to the real world.

Now you see? Those bags are made in China by our intelligent and diligent Chinese artisans. Buy a bag from our factory in China, see the real world for yourself. That's not on anybody's algorithm, that's China just trying to sell us crap. I totally agree with you.

And bypass the tariffs. Yeah, this is a really bad app, I don't understand why we're not just... I mean, it was, you know, Congress voted that this should be banned from the United States. I think what happened was President Trump saw that the majority of Americans who got their news from TikTok ended up voting for him, especially young men. And so he sees it as a weapon in the arsenal of conservatives and Republicans wanting to have a little bit more purchase in the online spaces, especially when it was so heavily weighted against them for so long.

But I think it's a mistake, I think we should ban it. Alright, I know Mark, you're a little jealous. I happen to see Bhatia took long hand notes to prepare for the segment. My sense is you just sat down on the chair and knew you could wing it. But I like the preparation. Next time I want to see your notes, but that's all I ask Mark.

Hope you have a great week, thanks so much for ending Sunday with us. Okay, you did have notes. Alright, good. Alright, you did prepare.

I thought it might have been a stamper. Alright, thanks guys, appreciate it. Meanwhile this, while anti-Semitism is threatening the pursuit of truth on college campuses across our great nation, one new university is refusing to let that happen by taking a different approach. The University of Austin in Texas, housed in a former department store, has a mission.

Open debate, true academic freedom, no political ideology. And for the first historic class, no tuition. I traveled to the campus in Texas to meet the great minds behind the students lucky enough to attend. So they say everything is bigger here in Texas.

The state itself, the people, even the state house. It's bigger than the U.S. Capitol, look at that. But here on Sixth Street, right in the capital city of Texas, is an institution that doesn't want to be the biggest, they just want to be the best. It's the University of Austin. You come here starting this year with the first freshman class ever, and you make history at the University of Austin.

Their constitution, yes they have one, and their charter makes them stand out. Let's go see the magic. How did this thing get started? So the origin story of the University of Austin begins early in 2021. The entry point to this institution for me was a conversation with Barry Weiss. We need a new university that's going to model the way universities should be. We said we're building a brand new university dedicated to fearless pursuit of truth, committed to principles of open inquiry, freedom of conscience, civil discourse, and the response was electric. People said this is exactly what we need. So within three years, and we did it.

Our first freshman class began in fall 24th. So does your application, Panos, have male, female, white, Hispanic, Caucasian, is that even on there? No. In fact, our constitution, which is our governing document, prohibits us from asking those questions.

So it's not on there. Our application is, we rely heavily on quantitative scores. We do have essays, but the essays are designed to ask them questions that bring out what makes them nonconformist, what makes them think differently, to show us that they're risk-takers. Michael Schellenberger, the chair of politics, censorship, and free speech at the University of Austin. He moved to the city to be part of something he believes will be truly special, a place that champions free speech in academia. The university is supposed to be a sanctuary for truth-seeking and truth-telling, and it's incredible that the universities in the United States, so many of them have become the exact opposite of that. They've been about censorship, cancel culture, about self-censorship.

Professors are terrified to say what they believe or to pursue the truth. So to be able to really create a university that's going back to its original roots as a place of free thought is just a thrill. You can also get the opening point of view from your own opinion or whatever argument you want to make. We spoke with several students about why they chose the intimacy of this university and what drew them to the brand-new school, located on the third floor of a former department store.

Despite receiving no federal funding, the university managed to raise enough money to cover the full tuition for both the inaugural class and the next one. That means the first group of students get a tuition-free education along with a unique campus tradition, weekly announcements delivered from a literal soapbox. The soapbox and the speakers. Tell me about the soapbox. Every Tuesday we do announcements, and obviously because we're such a small campus and we're very community-oriented, we'll just have someone stand up on a soapbox. You can see them pop above the crowd, and they'll just run down a list of here's a debate that's going on that you should come to, here's a professor hosting an event outside of school hours that you can go to.

It just updates you on everything around the campus. Why did you pick this school? Coming in here, where the faculty are asking you these tough questions and are encouraging us to ask one another to explore these ideas and these topics outside of school time, I just didn't think I was going to get that at a different university.

For me, we're kind of realized. I came in here a little bit skeptical of seminar-style courses, but as I kind of met my classmates and my professors, I realized everyone is excited about what they're doing. When I saw Barry Weiss talk about the school, I was so excited, and then I looked on the website, and the people involved were like my intellectual dream team, so it was like a dream come true. Give me an idea of who's involved.

Well, obviously Barry Weiss, Neil Ferguson. I saw Richard Dawkins on the website, and then the fact that it combined a classical education and then pushing you to do something was what I've always dreamed of. What do some of your peers tell you is happening on their campuses? Have you talked to them now that you're in your second semester?

Totally, yeah. They say they're in a room and they have an idea, and they feel like they literally can't say it, and that's such a horrible feeling. I know I felt that in high school. And being here is so different in that it really does feel like any idea is not off limits. A lot of people go, oh, is this some conservative college?

Can you tell us about it? Is that the stereotype people say, and can you tell us about the reality? I think someone actually took a verbal survey at the beginning of the year, and it really was more split 50-50 among the peer group, and I think that really speaks.

People are just willing to challenge and mess with those ideas, so I really don't see it as conservative at all. You obviously see, all of us see the hate comments. We're real people. We're reading these things.

This is just a conservative, white male, cause them of their ideas. We're here to learn. We're not here to be a liberal student or a conservative student or an independent student.

We're just here to be university students. Meanwhile, next. The media moments that matter to the one and only Carly Shimkus. They're top secret, but I know I gave her my only VCR and all my tapes.

I can't wait to see what you come up with. Meanwhile, a quick note. Without Carly, I'll be on tour. History, Liberty, and Laughs.

Thanks to Fox Nation. I'll be in Dayton, Ohio, June 21st, Victoria Theatre. I hear it's beautiful. Dallas, Texas, August 23rd. Will Kane promises to come. Windspear Opera House, huge venue. And Richmond, Virginia, September 27th at the Dominion Energy Center at the Carpenter Theatre. Go to briankillme.com.

I want to meet you in person. Don't move. You're watching One Nation.

You hear a lot about weight loss. Yup, it's time now for your favorite segment. Don't ask me how I know.

I know one thing. I gave the TV Guide. I gave the VCR. I gave all my tapes to Carly Shimkus from Fox and Friends.

First in Fox and Friends. Carly, did you tape anything? Well, everything. I have no empty plugs. Nothing. Nothing else?

Everything is plugged into the wall at my house. All right, I'm going to need it back at the end of the segment, but what did you come up with? I have some great moments for you. Okay, let's start off with New York Congresswoman Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez. She's on her Fight the Oligarchy tour, and she's being accused of changing her accent at one of her rallies. Let's see if you agree. Donald Trump is a criminal who was found guilty of 34 felony counts of fraud. Liable for sexual abuse.

Of course he's lying and abusing and manipulating the stock market too. Too? What is that? I'm not sure. Do you think that it's a different accent, or does she just say the same things over and over again? She's like, I'm just going to spice it up this time. Right.

I think she gets all cut up in the crowd and just starts acting differently, but it's not the only time you see a Democrat get in front of people and act, let's say, inauthentic. Yeah, I agree. I actually compiled some more of those moments. Let's share. Nothing wrong with working retail, folding clothes for other people to buy.

There is nothing wrong with preparing the food that your neighbors will eat. The path may seem hard, the work may seem heavy, but joy cometh in the morning, and church morning is on its way. If John Lewis, even in his 70s, wasn't tired, I got no excuses. I can't be tired.

I don't feel no way he's tired. I come too far from where I started from. Nobody told me that the road would be easy. Right.

Why do they do that? Hillary Clinton's was absolutely the worst. Absolutely. Yeah, Kamala Harris was pandering. Here's the trend, though. So, all of those people ran for president, but Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez. So, is that the key?

You do the fake accent and then you run for president. Could this be a sign, Brian? Maybe it's a sign.

I saw a few polls. She's rising up in the ranks. Bingo, yeah.

While flying private, while fighting oligarchs. But I digress. But let's keep with the presidency. Oh, yeah, that's right. Okay, let's stay on 2024 because Charles, Stephen A. Smith made a ton of news this week. He said that he's not ruling out a presidential run in 2028.

Right. And Charles Barkley, never shy to share his opinion, has some thoughts on this. And now here's Stephen A. He's about to run for president, depending on... Stop it, Jimmy. Come on, man.

You know I love you, man. Knock it off. Calm down, Stephen A.

And Stephen A. is one of my friends. But I'm like, yo, man, come on, man. Stop it. Come on.

All I would say is knock it off. That's the best way to phrase it. So this means no vote for Stephen A. from Charles Barkley. No. Hard no. Hard no. Okay.

Vote denied. I love that he doesn't have to say much to get his point across. Everybody knows what Charles Barkley means when he just says, Stephen A., just stop it.

It's not going to happen, so don't even bring it up. Just a little bit about the picture. How close is he to the camera, number one? And number two, what is he trying to look at that he suddenly needs glasses? I mean, is there anything you can't see like that? I mean, listen. What's he reading?

He's there for a studious look. I like it. Right. Well, Stephen A. Smith says he might have to run to save America.

We'll have to see. But let's keep the sports theme going. Oh, yeah, okay. Let's stay in the world of sports, but a story that has absolutely nothing to do with sports. Your favorite type of sports, though. A Braves reporter, he got a fan's number live on the air, and people are furious over this moment. Watch.

You guys hanging out at the rooftop lounge often? All right, so they want me to get your number. This might be the new move.

You just walk around with a fan-dueled microphone and an earpiece in and convince fans that they're actually on TV. I got the number. We're good. I think that this is hilarious.

I think it's good, too, yeah. Okay, well, let me read some social media reaction real quick. One person said, imagine if a female reporter did anything like this, career over. Another one chimed in saying, has anyone said how unprofessional this is? I mean, he's at something called the Corona Rooftop at the Blue Jays stadium. It's a baseball game.

He's not, like, covering the U.N. while it's in session. Carly, thanks for the research, the deep research. I'm 100 percent with you. It's so hard to get real interaction in America. It was cute, right?

And why not on national television? Yeah. It's great. Great to see you. I want you to have a fantastic week. I hope to see you in the morning. I'll be unplugging all the devices. That's all, yeah. And make sure you return the v-shirt. Thank you, I will. I only have one.

Yes, it's like a library book. There's only one left in the world, I think. Meanwhile, straight ahead, it is mascot madness across the country with Native American imagery under attack. My home town of Massapequa taking a major hit, but fighting back, I'll hit you with the details only if you stick with one nation. Welcome to Fox News Live.

I'm Ashley Strohmeyer in New York. U.S. Supreme Court Justice Samuel Alito is openly criticizing the high court. In a scathing dissent, he slammed the court's decision to halt President Trump's deportation of a group of Venezuelans under the Alien Enemies Act. He calls the ruling legally questionable. The ACLU says removals were happening too fast. However, the president says they're dangerous gang members. Justice Clarence Thomas also dissented.

The court's temporary block gives justices more time to weigh in on the issue. And Vice President J.D. Vance briefly met with Pope Francis at the Vatican this Easter. It comes on the heels of the pontiff's recent criticisms of the Trump administration's migrant policies. Vance reportedly told the Holy Father it was good to see him in better health following his bout with pneumonia.

The 88-year-old pope skipped mass but gave the Easter blessing. I'm Ashley Strohmeyer. Now back to One Nation. So it's what I call logo lunacy across the nation. And those schools with Native American logos and mascots are under attack.

The political correctness of it all. From North Carolina to Illinois, where lawmakers are debating right now bills to ban American Indian logos. To California, where Governor Gavin Newsom has banned all the use of American mascots. What else is new?

The legacy of Native American names like Warriors, like Braves, like Chiefs, and more. Blackhawks are on the chopping block. And here in New York, it is no different. The state board mandating public schools remove all Native American imagery by June 30th. And those districts that do not comply will lose state aid, and the removal of school officers will actually follow up. Meanwhile, on Long Island, where I live, in the town where I live, there are at least four districts pushing back. You got Wontol, Warriors, Wyandash, Connequot, and my hometown of Massapequa.

We are the Chiefs. My Massapequa Chiefs are even calling in the big guns, the commander in chief, asking President Trump to help them fight to keep district logos after a judge recently ruled against them in their legal battle with the state. Even Native American groups, like a huge one called the Native American Guardians Association of 85,000 plus, are against rebranding. They say leave the names as they are.

So why is this happening? Joining us now to discuss his political correctness is Frank Blackcloud, the vice president of the Native American Guardians Association, NAGA, and Kerry Wachter, the Massapequa school board president. Kerry, first off, how much money has been spent to fight to preserve the name Chiefs, which you've had since the late 50s?

So it's about $50,000, but I think it would cost us upwards of a million dollars to replace all of our gym floors and our mats and our uniforms and everything to remove Chiefs. Why does it matter, Kerry? People at home are going, what's the big deal? It's a nickname. Why does it matter? Well, it's not a nickname, not for us. And you know, as an alumni, Brian, and your daughters are alumni of Massapequa.

This is a generational thing. This is a community thing. You know, when we look around our community, you know, the Chamber of Commerce has that chief head. You know, that fire department has that chief head.

The village of Massapequa Park has the chief head. And it's not just our sports team. It's everyone who attends the schools here.

It's from our little kindergartners all the way up to our seniors. It's our alumni. It's who we are. It's our identity.

We live in Massapequa, named for the tribe where we reside. And Frank, does it insult you that teams are using names like Braves and Warriors and Blackhawks and Chiefs? Does it insult you and your family, your ancestors?

On the contrary, it actually uplifts us that we are being recognized in that manner. You know, our heritage is rich within the fabric of America. You know, if you go anywhere in this country, you're going to see road signs, names, cities, schools. You're going to see Native American imagery everywhere. So what the left is trying to do is they are trying to eradicate us from this land that we call home. And I believe we are the only culture here in America that if they erase us, we don't have a home to go back to. This is our home. So we are America. And it just, it upsets me greatly that they're doing this.

And Kerry, this is what you're up against. The Board of Regents who demanded this said, although rebranding might not be easy for communities, the harm that the continued use of team names, mascots or logos connected to indigenous people or indigenous or non-indigenous people is well established. Really?

Now with Frank's group and certainly not in Massapequa. Your response to that? Yeah. You know, they're using, you know, a study that, you know, everybody uses something to justify what they want. And I think Mr. Black Cloud here is an example of other Native Americans who do not share that belief. And to think that one group all shares the same belief, I think that in itself is racist, right?

So we're old individuals. And to sit here and say that everybody feels one way or another and so that the state's going to come in and decide, I think, is ridiculous. And that's why we have a First Amendment. That's why we have these protections to say, hey, we can express ourselves the way we want. And you know, here you have a Board of Education who is elected, duly elected by their community to represent their interests and their concerns, being told by a bureaucracy at New York State what they should do. And the federal court is saying that we don't have standing to represent our community. And I think that's wrong. You know, Carrie, they're going to come from the town names, too, you know that.

That's next. Wantaw and Massapeek were named after American Indian tribes. And Frank, when you reach out and just try to put your point of view out there and you represent thousands, tens of thousands of people of American Indians with the American Indian heritage, what's the response you get? We actually represent millions because there's millions of us in this country and only about one to 10 percent of them are against these names and images, but the other millions of us were for it.

You know, so it's it's a heartbreaking situation that we've been battling for close to 30 years now. And I just call on President Trump to help Massapeek out, help us American Indians out, help us up this craziness that's going on in this world. Because I tell you what, we cherish our heritage. We are the strength and honor that others want to erase. I mean, can you imagine that being something that people uphold and they cherish? And the other side wants us to just go away.

It makes no sense to me. And you know what? You do the fight. Carrie, you guys are doing the fight for the Braves of Atlanta, for the Blackhawks of Chicago, the NHL, for the Chiefs of Kansas City, because they did it in Colorado. They wiped out all the American Indian names and they're trying to do it in New York.

And it stops on Long Island. Carrie, keep fighting. Thanks so much. And thanks for the unselfish help, Frank Black Cloud, for you and your family and your legacy. Thanks so much. Next, only on One Nation, everyone's favorite segment, the co-host quiz, featuring those two lovely individuals, Ainsley Earhart and Lawrence Jones.

It is amazing to have. All right, it is time now for the moment that everybody in TV thinks about, talks about it. It is time now for the co-host quiz.

On One Nation, we have tried to patent this and we've been successful. First off, I'm sorry, I haven't met you yet. Could you introduce yourselves? Okay, I'll pretend like I really know them. Lawrence Jones, co-host of Fox and Friends, six foot five. How much?

That's right. Do you weigh? I'm not telling them.

Don't ask me that. Ainsley Earhart, five-seven. Hey, everyone. Five-eight. Five-seven and three-fourths, but I'm shrinking every day. One-twenty-seven. One-twenty-eight.

One-twenty-eight. Ladies and gentlemen, this is the co-host quiz. We have asked these two lovely people to come down to find out how much they really know about each other.

The people you sit next to each and every day and we've been trying to do this for at least a year. Are you ready? Yes. Are these secret? These are secret questions.

Why am I nervous? All right. Are you ready, Ainsley? Yes. The first question for Ainsley about Lawrence.

Okay. Lawrence was the blank for Garland, Texas in 2009. Oh, he was the mini mayor. He was like the little mayor.

Ladies, do you have the... Okay, hold on. The youth mayor. The youth mayor.

He was the youth mayor. Number B. Letter B. Letter B, that's true.

I bet he was all of these things. Ladies and gentlemen, we do not have money for a scorekeeper. It is one-nothing Ainsley. Who told you this? I know you so well. Okay. All right. Question for Lawrence about Ainsley.

Okay. If there was an emergency, which Fox anchor would Ainsley call first? If there was an emergency, what Fox anchor would Ainsley call first?

Sean Hannity. Judges? It is one-one. There we go. One-one.

Are you getting nervous? That's right. That was an easy one. Okay. All right. Yeah.

Well, how did that make that list? Question for Ainsley about Lawrence. Okay. Lawrence brings his service dog, Nala, to work. Which friend's co-host would he trust to walk and watch Nala should he be busy? Which Fox co-host... Definitely. Definitely not you.

You would lose Nala. Steve would be good with him, but I have a dog. You better pick me.

Is it not me? Which one would you guess? Pick. Brian because Ainsley would spoil her too much.

Ladies and gentlemen, thank you very much. I give him lots of treats. She needs discipline. Brian would lose the dog. I would not. I'm great with dogs.

Are you kidding? Brian loses his wallet if he's confident. I would give her too many treats.

It's not about Brian. Baby her. Okay. Question for Lawrence about Ainsley. What would Ainsley's dad do every day to inspire her? Okay.

Ainsley didn't do it? Okay. Is there a... No.

No. Are you kidding me? This is so broad.

What would Ainsley's dad do to inspire her? Oh, I know. I know. I know. I know. He got up and went to work. That's a good answer. He did do that.

But that is wrong. Do you want to tell him? You've worked with me for so long. He would leave little notes of scripture and little, like, sayings next to our cereal bowl.

This is incredible. You're talking about... The mailbox one, he says that wasn't him. That wasn't he. It wasn't him? No. I don't think he did that. It was your mom.

No. I don't know who did that. So there's a stalker? They would leave me letters from Jesus in my mailbox.

This has to be invested. It could have been an apostle. Whoever that was, come forward. Question for Ainsley about Lawrence. Okay. Ainsley, if the Cowboys played the Texans in football, who would Lawrence want to win?

Easy. Cowboys. Cowboys. Cowboys. Congratulations.

I know my man. Ainsley is ahead. Representing all women. Question for Lawrence about Ainsley. Ainsley's babysitter just called out sick. Her only choice as a Fox and Friends co-host or reporter to watch the baby, who would she choose?

Oh, my God. Ainsley's babysitter just called out sick. Her only choice as a Fox and Friends co-host or Fox and Friends reporter-contributor, who would she choose to watch the kid? Reporter or Fox and Friends?

Contributor. No, it's on regularly. On every day. Oh, it has to be. On every day. On every day.

This is terrible. That's exactly the same with you with Nala. It's the same question. It's the same question. Okay. Okay. Okay.

Just answer it. Okay. I'll say Steve.

Janis or Karl? I'm not leaving my little girl with three men. Sorry. Sorry. Sorry. Question for Ainsley, not Lawrence. I didn't know.

I thought you said the same question, which is one of us. Okay. What's Lawrence's drink of choice?

Oh, Steve. This is a multiple choice. There's a multiple choice. I already know it. I already know it. Okay, go ahead.

I've never seen such an unbalanced competition, and here we go. Question for Lawrence about Ainsley. What would Ainsley say is the strangest thing Brian does? Oh, God. Where do you begin?

How long is this show? The strangest thing? The strangest thing that Brian does. Can I do a list? Everything. Can you just answer the question? Yeah. Is it a multiple choice?

It's not. So it would be like 16 things? I mean, it could be anything. It could be anything. Okay.

What is the strangest thing? Just calm down, guys. Well, you walk away from conversation. Yes. Yes. Okay.

But you haven't made a choice yet. You have ADHD. He thinks he invented walking. He thinks he can walk. He hates gum.

All of that. He'll smack you across the face. You cannot stand the heater. The heater turns that off sometimes. The heater, he turns it off. You see, the other day he kicked it. He kicked it. He kicked it off the shelf. Oh, and he picks his coffees all over the road.

He feeds his shirt all the time. All of them are right. All of those are right. All right. I say all of the above. Why would you help him? And we both get a point.

Why would you help him? Spills everything, looks into space while trying to talk. Oh, that's true. Yes.

Yes. And will not eat on air. He will not eat on air. That's impossible. But he doesn't mind eating his shirt. You end up going on that.

And won't wear cowboy boots. That's right. Right. That's not strange.

That's normal. Lawrence, I helped you with that. But you deserve a point. Okay. Last question for each. Last question for each. Okay.

Is this a part of One Nation apparel or traveling mug? Okay. Okay. Question for Ainsley about Lawrence. In 2020, Lawrence sat down for an interview on Fox Nation with what polarizing NASCAR driver? Wow.

In 2020, Lawrence sat down with an interview on Fox Nation with what polarizing. Okay. Ask him my question. Let's both think about it. Okay. Who was it? You can't make the rules.

You can't make the rules. I've got to think. I've got to think.

Ainsley's first job out of college. You're doing it. I know.

You're doing it. It's fine. It's fine.

It's fine. Ainsley's first job out of college was reporting at a local... Wait. He got a... No. He got a multiple choice.

You got to give me a multiple choice on the NASCAR team, too. Okay. Here it is. Okay.

In 2020... Never mind. Ainsley's first job out of college was reporting at a local CBS station in her hometown of Columbia. Which award did she win?

Freedom of expression, best personality of the year, most successful hometown kid. Okay. I know this. Okay. Who wants to go first? Go ahead. Go ahead.

Wasn't that polarizing NASCAR driver? Okay. Well, give me...

I need A, B, C, and D. Nope. That's fair. That's fair. Okay. Jeff Gordon.

Yeah. Bubba Wallace. Danny Hamlin. The first one.

Jeff Gordon. Wrong. Who was it? And you were right.

Oh, go ahead. And you were right. Who was it? Bubba Wallace.

I know that. But what was the guess for Ainsley? Oh, it was C. It was C. What was C? C was best hometown kid. No, it was B.

Personality of the year. Yeah, wrong. So ladies and gentlemen... You were wrong. Wait a minute.

Final is not wrong. The winner. Can we see a full screen, Ainsley?

You have one, three, two over Lawrence Jones even though he's younger. Can we just talk about how she changed the rules? And technically... You agreed to it. But can we just... You agreed to it. That was only fair.

Show a full screen of Ainsley. You got multiple choices and you still got it wrong. I think we're both winners. Okay. Okay. That's right. I've never been ignored like this in my life.

I have to usually wait from six to nine Eastern to do this. A full screen. You can make your choice of any of the One Nation apparel or objects. Can we show a full screen? There we go. Oh, wow.

There's a whole website. Look at that. Go ahead. Make your choice, Ainsley. Do you want a mug of me?

Oh. We get the choice. I definitely want the mug of you. I need to... I already wake up with you every morning.

See that? Now you're being in my apartment. That definitely would not have been your choice. That would not have been my choice.

All right. Box it up and send it with the... What are you getting? Oh, you don't get one. He's the winner. Congratulations.

He's making fun of me. He's the winner. He's the winner. There you go.

Nice try. Oh, yeah. Now we have a special announcement. The next time you see the co-host quiz, we have a special treat. Lawrence, you'll be the host, and I'll be sitting here against the female anchor.

At Del Webb. Before we get you out the door or to bed, a sneak peek at the week that we have to look forward to today. First off, tomorrow. We're going to see the White House Easter egg roll. It's going to be exciting. Maybe they'll use real eggs, be if the prices come down so significantly.

Hey, talk about rare. The US is expected to sign a rare earth minerals deal with Ukraine. Hopefully that means they can take the money we give them and buy more weapons to win that war against Russia. The NFL draft starts Thursday. Everyone's focused on who the giants will pick.

I think it's going to be that Penn State lineman. And next Saturday, White House Correspondents Dinner will not have President Trump. So therefore, I will not go, and that's the big story. That is it for us tonight. Make sure you check my radio show out all week long from nine to noon. Among my guests, Glenn Jacobs, Tim Murtagh, and James Trussey. Be sure to watch Fox and Friends every single day from six to nine with everybody that you know.

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