Border crossings are way down, media ignores

From the Fox News Radio Studios in Midtown Manhattan, it's the fastest growing radio talk show. Brian Kilmead. Hi, everyone. Welcome to the Brian Kilmick Show.

So glad you're here. 1-866-408-7669. We're back in action today. A lot going on. It looks like President Biden's going to speak again.

I know. I'm so excited. He's going to make his first public address since leaving in shame. Uh in In January, he's been blasted almost every day by President Trump, I think deservedly, because he did such a terrible job. And now we're finding out he wasn't even doing the job, but he's going to blast President Trump on Social Security, make up some stories how Trump is getting rid of it, which he's never said, but all the Democrats seem to say that.

And I'm sure that's why Trump is speaking out today. And the vice president and president will have lunch today. That's pretty much the schedule. As well as we see they will have the Commander-in-Chief trophy presentation to the Navy midshipmen from beating the Army at Redskin Stadium.

So before we get to Lieutenant Colonel Alan West at the bottom of the hour, let's get to the big three. Number three. Harvard is acting more entitled than ever. President Trump made the direct and correct decision to defund to the tune of over $2 billion. U.S.

taxpayer dollars should never be propping up anti-Semitism. And that is so true, Elise Stefana. College Crackdown. Trump goes after the cesspool of anti-Semitic, anti-American behavior among faculty and students at the elite institutions, and they are fighting back. Why I believe this could be 47's greatest triumph and why he simply has to win.

Number two. China's been selling off treasuries for some time. It's not a brand new development. And for so many decades, we haven't had fair market access.

So, again, we see China taking action, implementing their policy to try to be less tied up with us as well. And that is true. And China's already made another move this morning telling Boeing, keep your aircraft, we don't want them. Tariff mania. This has brought to the surface the simmering resentment China has for America and America has for China.

They are acting on it too, also stopping rare earth to us. We have the latest, including the deals that are coming in and the exemptions that might be coming out. Number And that was an outrageous scene in the White House, and there's a whole lot of lying going on. President Bukeley does have the power to release Obrego Garcia. Donald Trump is clearly ignoring a court order.

Yeah, and that he's there talking about Boot Kelly as the president of El Salvador. Missing the point. Border crossing apprehensions of illegal criminals is happening. At such a clip, even the most optimistic Trump supporter could not have imagined this much success. And yet the media focuses on MS-13, El Salvadorian illegal, sent back to El Salvador.

And the case is more breaking news on the illegal front.

So, first off, this is what everyone's focusing on. I think the El Salvador president comes here, and when he did what we asked him to do, and he cracked down on illegal immigrant immigration, leaving his country, got rid of and locked up almost every MS-13 person that he could, put him in a maximum security prison. We've all seen the video. And then when they come out and we capture him in the U.S., they worked out a deal for about $6 million. We sent them back to him.

One guy from Maryland, they say in 2019, he was a member of MS-13. They weren't going to send him back right away while his case was pending. And then that's the judge at the time. Nothing to do with Trump.

So now, whatever had happened, he popped up on the ICE list. They picked him up and sent him back. And they're saying that's the biggest story out there. Look. This is a story.

Absolutely. But this is not close to the story. When it comes to illegal immigration and border crossings, I mean, I got some numbers for you. That you're gonna think I made it up. In March of 2024, there were 4,488 people coming across our border.

Per day. In February of twenty twenty five, Three hundred and thirty March of 2025. 264. 264 the whole border. Down 20% from last month and 94% from a year ago.

And you want to focus on: well, this MS-13 guy who was living in Maryland was not a threat? And who called him a threat? Who said he was MS thirteen? A judge in 2019. Not Stephen Miller, not Not Pam Bondi.

So I know it's a story. If you've picked up an innocent person in a park. And you just put him in an El Salvadorian prison. Then I think it's a big story. This is a story.

And to me, it sounds like this MS thirteen guy turned on some of his gangsters and the judge said, whatever you do, don't send him back to the Gambino crime family because he's already turned on the Gambino crime family. Don't put him back with him. Sammy the Bull turned on John Gotti. You don't put him back with the mob family that he turned on.

Okay. I'm not that broken up by it.

So When people find that you're an MS-13, I don't. Do you ever reform from that? Do you take your tattoos off? I don't get it.

So that's the big story. You would think some of these things would be. A year ago. They said the only way to stop illegal immigration is comprehensive immigration reform. Joe Biden said that's the only thing you can do.

You can't stop it. The world is in a migration. The world is migrating collectively. That's what we're told by Mayorkis, who becomes a bigger disaster the more I think about it every day.

So the President of El Salvador is here. And that came up. Cut three. Yeah, we even have this gang member from Venezuela, one of the ones you sent, and we interviewed him just to get some information, etc. from them.

And he said, oh, well, you know, I got arrested six times, but they released me the six times, so I should be released again. And then we said, well, but what's the last thing, last thing you do? And he said, well, I shot a cop in the leg. But I didn't kill him. They just shot him in the leg.

And we're like, this guy was arrested six times here in the United States, six times. He was released six times.

So uh this are you know Yeah, do you think that it's okay? That that happens in Boston, although there was a big arrest yesterday by a guy accused of incest. And molesting other kids had to go, ICE had to go in there. No help from the cops because the mayor doesn't want any help. But Bukele says, Listen, this is not my problem.

I'm not going to ship him back out. He's in El Salvador. He's born in El Salvador. He goes to your country illegally. You sent him back, and I'm supposed to ship him back.

Cut two. Both of them suggested that I smuggle a terrorist into the United States, right? I mean how can I how can I smuggle how can I return him to the United States? Like could I smuggle him into the United States, or what do I do with force? I'm not gonna do it.

It's like I mean the this the uh the question is preposterous. How can I smuggle a terrorist into the United States? I I don't have the power to return him to the United States.

Okay. So you cover the story. You know what the headlines are everywhere? Maryland uh Maryland man, Maryland man, Maryland man unjustly sent to El Salvador.

Now, the Justice Department official said, Yeah, we shouldn't have sent them back. They got rid of that Justice Department official. Don't pretend to be a lawyer, but They said there was the wrong message and they didn't make a mistake.

Now the court says you have to make an effort to get him back. They made an effort. They can't decide foreign policy. The Supreme Court said you can't decide foreign policy, but you should make an effort to get him back. They haven't been able to.

So every day they're going to have to go and tell the judge at about 4 o'clock today. We tried to get him back. We couldn't get him back. We asked him, and he said no.

So here's what people should understand. This is totally being spun, and it's a distraction. You watch Jon Stewart lead the Daily Show with this story. Because they don't want to tell the other story. I guess it's not funny enough.

Uh you know They want to talk about tariffs. Suddenly make Saturn Live.

Okay. Can you talk about the crackdown and anti-immigrant anti-Semitism on these college campuses? I'm not sure why so many famous Jewish people weren't upset by it outside Bob Kraft, but almost nobody was. You know I guess Mike Rappaport was another one. But on this guy, Garcia, Here here's How uh they spawn it.

If you uh they issued an order. Stating the lower court, this is what they said. The Supreme Court issued an order stating that the lower court. properly requires the government to facilitate Garcia's release from custody in El Salvador to ensure that this case is handled as it would have been had he not been improperly sent to El Salvador.

However, in a warning to the lower court. Don't overstep your authority. This is what the Supreme Court said. The higher court also asked the lower court to clarify what it meant when it demanded the government effectuate his return. Garcia is currently being held in El Salvador.

It is unclear what impact President Bukele's statements will have on the case.

So if you look at the New York Times. They say this. In the Oval Office on Monday, Attorney General Pambondi said that two counts had been An immigration court and an appellant court had ruled that Mr. Garcia was a member of MS-13. Can we just stop there?

That should be in every headline. In 2019, MS-13 gang member Albergo Garcia was taken from his house in 2025. And brought El Salvador.

Now you might want to know why he should stay, what the danger is to his health, but how can you possibly write this story without saying gang member or MS-13 member as ruled by a judge back in 2019 when Pam Bondi was the Attorney General in Florida?

So it goes on to say this. To be clear, Garcia has never been charged, not convicted of being a member of the gang, but during the deportation proceedings.

Some evidence was introduced that That he belonged to MS-13, and the judges decided. That was enough to keep him in custody, okay?

So, a judge decided to keep him in custody. Evidence was produced that says he's MS-13. That's called a proceeding. Towards a deportation. The Justice Department submitting, and this is when they asked again: should we get rid of this guy a couple of days ago?

And this is what the Justice Department said. They submitted in filing more than an hour late, uh-oh, echoed many of the recalcitrant remarks. that administration officials made in the Oval Office. Yes, that he's a member of MS-13. including the assertion that in twenty nineteen a judge determined that he's a member of MS thirteen.

I don't get it.

I just don't understand it. If it was Al Qaeda, if it was ISIS, you would never say Maryland man. You would say a member of ISIS in Maryland Was deported to El Salvador. And if you want to say wrongly, unjustly, um illegally, then you do it. But this is a total distraction over the biggest story.

Other major stories regarding immigration, I think, are important. ICE arrested a Brazilian alien charged with incest, aggravated child rape. They had to overcome local authorities to get him. According to a news release, his name is Daniel Garcia. A fifty seven-year-old Cuban national was arrested at his home in Miami.

This is another guy taken into custody by ICE and FBI. That's a story you could be covering. How about this? This is kind of interesting. I think, in an effort to avoid all these criminal proceedings, At 10 a.m., a hearing on the Department of Justice attempt to drop the case against the alleged top leader of MS-13.

Remember, we told you about the takedown of Pam Bondi and Christine Omen and the FBI director present, and they take this guy into custody. And he is Henry Villitoro Santos, allegedly the Eastco leader of MS-13.

Now they put it, they tell you about all the background, they got 'em.

So to me they're just sending him back to prison in his country. Why not p why not charge him? You're seeing why not charge 'em. The minute you start charging these guys. Then all of a sudden they got to get their day in court, then they got to go get their lawyer, and then it's going to take more time, then you got to house them.

They just said, and I talked to the Governor Junckin last week about this, we're just going to send them out right to a prison in other country. No charges. Get him out.

So they're going to try to stop him. Department of Justice, because our own Department of Justice is working against us, getting what is now listed as a terrorist organization, MS-13, out of our country. I guess you haven't seen any of the horrible things they did on Long Island, cutting out people's hearts, cutting off limbs and torturing them, cutting off fingers, but that's okay. You just don't feel it, right? We just got to be good to all people.

We're a nation of immigrants. We're not a nation of illegal immigrant killers.

So, I just don't understand a lot of the logic here. When we come back, I'll talk about the latest with the tariffs and the war with China. And the bigger question. As we start to Uh deentangle disentangle ourselves from China. Why were we not doing this sooner?

Why were we not seeing the enemy across the ocean and saying, this is the problem? They've infiltrated our borders. They're buying land around our military installations. They've hacked into our almost every computer system. They put students on our campuses to spy on us.

They try to interdict our ships in the South China Sea. They harass our allies. What more proof do you need? They steal our intellectual property? They just knock off our or um Our uh our patents.

And they all get away with it. And then we let them infiltrate us with TikTok. And everything else. Finally, we have somebody standing up, and people are crying. This is going to be too painful as we decouple on trade.

I think it's necessary. And I say we stick it out. Until they give up. We do not give in. Brian Kilmeecho, so glad you're here.

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Listen and follow now at FoxtrueCrime.com or wherever you get your favorite podcasts. If you're interested in it, Brian's talking about it. You're with Brian Kilmead. Do you think that these tariffs are being carried out in a practical way or a chaotic way? I think we'll see.

So far, very disruptive.

So far very disruptive, right? And so we don't know what the numbers are. But that can be part of a process, right? It depends where we are at the end of the 90 days. I think that right now we are.

at a decision making point and very close to a recession. And I'm worried about something. Worse than a recession. if this isn't handled well. And that is Ray Dalio.

We hope to be catching up to him soon, too. That was on NBC. And he said, he's one of the best investors, most respected investors in the world. He's got a lot of investment in China, as I remember, 75 years old from Bridgewater.

So he's being open to it. I mean, he mostly, for the most part, I don't consider him a Trumper, but he's open to it. But he knows there has to be a realignment with our trade relationships.

So far, we understand 10 have come in really strong, like almost ready to sign. But they said there's been over 100 nations who have called us to get on the same page. I'm not sure what the market's doing today, but yesterday we went up to over 300 points. But China is the one who's really throwing somewhat.

Well, this is somewhat of a curveball. They knew China would react, but now they're using this as an opportunity to try to send us a message that you better not try this again. They halt critical exports as the war intensifies, the headline. This came out in the New York Times yesterday. Heavy earth material metals, rare earth magnets.

Evidently, they not only have a lot of them, natural resources, but they've been hoarding a lot of it too. By far, double the second most who's been hoarding in Vietnam, then Brazil, then Russia, then India, then Australia. We need it. But let me ask you: why are we not in the Congo? Why are we not cutting a quick deal with Ukraine?

Why are we not in Minnesota getting our own rare earth? It's national security. You can't tell me there's not reason now to go ahead and do it. The good news is: NVIDIA, the chip maker, announced Norway, a Norwegian company, would produce supercomputers for AI made entirely in the U.S. in the next four years.

The company said it will produce up to $500 billion of AI infrastructure in the United States in a partnership with TSMC, which is a Taiwanese company. The engines of the world's AI infrastructure are being built in the U.S. for the first time, Nvidia's head chief operating officer said. I love it. How fantastic is that?

Now that's a win, but what's going to get you in the short term? Right away, small businesses are definitely going to be affected as prices have gone up. And right now, I think it's. China running around Southeast Asia, telling Vietnam, telling Indonesia, stay with us. I'm more reliable.

You're going to like us better. But they're already been bullying the whole region. Nobody likes them.

Now, if we could get some semblance, now there could be an exemption now for auto. Automobile company has been in touch with some of the majors, and they're concerned that even though they built most of the car here, if they got to go to Canada for certain things and they got to go overseas for other things, are those items in a car predominantly built in America gonna have to be subjected to those tariffs? And it's complicated, obviously.

So what do you do?

So, maybe exempt him for a few days and try to work this out. Maybe give me a schedule of how you're going to bring more manufacturing here.

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Terms apply. Radio that makes you think. This is the Brian Kill Me Show. I think I know what's in the President's heart, but I don't know what it what's in his head. The people you're talking about are right.

The administration is not given. uh one clear rationale for its tariffs. I think that's intentional. That I don't know, but my guess is it's intentional. and that it is part of the President's Negotiating strategy.

But I, Jake, I don't want to feign understanding here. I don't know. But that's my best guess, knowing how the president operates. Senator Kennedy yesterday just saying, I'm not really sure where we're going with this, but I understand the intention. Lieutenant Colonel Alan West, Dallas County Republican Party Chair, American Constitutional Rights Union Executive Director, former Congressman from Florida, joins us now.

And, Colonel, I know what you're going to be doing August 23rd. Yep, I'm going to be with you down here in Dallas, Texas. Unless, of course, your family has an event, and I fully understand. That's the only day I can explain. They will all come to your event.

All right. Front row, VIP seats. You know, I'll make sure that I'm wearing a good outfit, good cologne, so I won't embarrass you. All right. So go to BrianKilby.com and meet Alan West.

History, Liberty, and Laughs, and I'll be. With Fox Nation. But, Colonel, just what do you think about what Senator Kennedy said? He's loyal to the president, but he feels as though he's not sure about the strategy. How do you feel?

Well, I'm sure about the strategy. I mean, what the President is understanding is that there are four elements to a nation's power. I learned that in my strategic studies as a major at the Army Staff College, and that is called the dime theory. It's diplomatic, informational, military, and economic. And he is trying to leverage America's economic power to right the wrongs of the trade imbalances.

Look, go back to 1996, and you can see Nancy Pelosi on the House floor arguing against giving China the most favored trade nation status. And at that time, we had like a $34 billion trade imbalance with China. Look at where it is today.

So, what the President is trying to say is: look, you are impeding us by way of tariffs coming into your markets, but yet you want to be able to enter into our market, which is the number one consumer market in the world, without any ramifications or consequences or tariffs. Let's have a level playing field. I believe in free trade, but it has to be fair trade. And I think you already see many of these countries are coming to the table. And when you look at what has happened with China, We didn't defeat the Soviet Union militarily.

We defeated them economically. And China is leveraging the fact that we have allowed them into the World Trade Organization. People want cheap goods, and they're using that to build up their Navy and their global hegemonic designs by way of this one-belt one-world strategy.

So we've got to challenge China economically. And they feel as though they're. Their integrity has been challenged and they don't want to give in. And right away, they decided they're going to not fulfill any Boeing contracts. They don't want any Boeing planes.

They're not going to give us any more rare earth and magnets. For some reason, we've never thought it would be a good idea to go elsewhere for it, which is nuts.

So, this is for keeps. Keep in mind, we know that they need us to consume their goods. But they are willing to let their people hurt, as usual. But they want to send us a message. They want to look like the tough guys.

Well, the thing is, I found it quite laughable that the Chinese will talk about their integrity being challenged. We all know that they lie. We all know that they cheat. We all know that they do everything possible to undermine the global economic situation by way of undermining their own currency. And when you look at how China has gone all across the world seeking out raw materials and things of this nature, going out and buying and building up these port facilities only to extort the countries that let them in, it's about time that the world stands up to China and realizes that they are not just a geopolitical threat for us, they are a geopolitical threat for the entire world.

And so the theft of intellectual property, the forced technology transfers, that's what China is doing. Look, Brian, think about it. Ten to twelve years ago, China did not have a blue water navy.

Now all of a sudden they are out producing us with naval ships and they have three aircraft carriers.

So where do you think that trade imbalance, the money that they're getting is going towards? It's not going towards improving the life of the quality of life of the Chinese citizens.

So I want to bring you to another area of expertise, and that's the Middle East. And we have Steve Witkoff leading the charge with, for example, with Iran. Here's what President Trump said after day one of talks in Oman. The next one's going to be in Rome on Saturday. Cut 32.

Can you give us an update on Iran?

Well, we're going to be dealing with it very shortly. Iran also, it was another way. I met with a different group of people on Iran, and we'll be making a decision on Iran very quickly. Here's what Witkoff's takeaway was, Cut 33. The president means what he says, which is they cannot have a bomb.

The conversation with the Iranians will be much about two critical points. One, enrichment. As you mentioned, they do not need to enrich past 3.67%. In some circumstances, they're at sixty percent, in other circumstances, twenty percent. That cannot be.

And you do not need to run, as they claim, a civil nuclear program where you're enriching past three point six seven percent. Is there I I have a problem with that statement, but I want to hear what your problem is with that.

Well, my problem is, why are we even talking to them? Iran is a maniacal theocracy. They are the number one state sponsor of Islamic terrorism. And I think that Donald Trump should just say, I'm going back to what I did in my first term. I'm going to bankrupt Iran.

We're not going to hear about Hamas, Houthis, Hezbollah, any of the other individuals. Iran is aiding and abetting Hezbollah agents to come. Across into Central America, I mean South America by way of Venezuela and enter into the United States of America.

So I don't know why we're sitting around and talking with them and trying to find some happy medium because they are part of this global enemy that we have, being economically with the BRICS, which is Brazil, Russia, Iran, and China and South Africa, or if you look at what they're doing militarily by supporting these belligerent groups.

So I say we just put the economic pressure on and watch them collapse like we had done previously. You know, Colonel, I feel a little differently. You're the expert, but I feel as though we can't even expertise. But you have a sense of the region and the sense of the mentality. Um I would say this.

I don't think we have time to even squeeze because they're almost there with eight weapons. I mean, once they get one, they're going to get eight. And then if they're able so we can't even squeeze, we have to either say zero You can't have a nuclear program. Do you have oil and gas?

Well, you're voting on oil and gas. You don't need it. You won't use it. And it's got to be dismantled in front of us. Or that's it.

No, I agree. And I think that a means by which you do get to that is putting all those sanctions back on that commodity that they do have, the oil and gas, which means that you put a kibosh on Russia and China as well. You know, we have to start looking at the means by which we can pressure all three of these individuals. And I guess North Korea is part of that as well. And that's what the Trump administration should be seeking to do.

And you're right. It should be zero because when you understand their theology, getting this weapon will mean catastrophic consequences. This is not about the mutually assured destruction theory that we have with the Soviet Union. They are going to use it, and they're going to use it against First Israel, and they will give it to terrorist organizations. And the next thing you know, we'll have the dirty nukes going off all over the place, especially here in the United States of America.

So you're right. I say we'll go to zero. All right. So. Today in the Wall Street Journal That says Trump's aides are pushing the President to be a little bit more tough on Vladimir Putin, saying that start putting sanctions on oil and gas, they're moving that through the Senate, and when you see them blowing up suburban neighborhoods in Sumy, Ukraine, at the same time refusing to have a ceasefire in the Black Sea.

Uh this is what Zelensky said on 60 Minutes, cut to 27. Putin's ultimate goal is to revive the Russian Empire and reclaim territories currently under NATO protection. And the United States, being part of NATO, means it will be involved in any potential conflict. Considering all of this, I believe it could escalate into a world war. I think he's right.

No, he is right, without a doubt. I mean, Vladimir Putin is a former KGB senior officer who said his greatest disappointment in the twentieth century was the collapse of the Soviet Union.

So yes, he's trying to do that. Think about all the presidents previous to Donald Trump that had tried to trust Vladimir Putin, George Bush infamously said that he looked into Putin's eyes and I think he saw his true meaning. I don't know. But the next thing you know, I mean, Putin is going into Georgia. We know about Moldova.

And now we see with Obama and Biden, he's going into Ukraine.

So this is a despotic ruler. He's a dictator. He's ruthless. And he has these designs as well. And so we have to start looking at I kind of get upset when I hear people say, well, we're forcing him to do this.

No, we didn't force Adolf Hitler to do what he did. He saw weakness and he took advantage of it. And I think that's the same thing we have to see with Vladimir Putin.

So listen to what Trump said, cut 30. He's always looking to purchase missiles, you know. He's against, listen. When you start a war, you got to know that you can win the war, right? You don't start a war against somebody that's 20 times your size.

And then hope that people give you some missiles. Oh. If we didn't give them what we gave, remember I gave them javelins. That's how they won their first big battle. with the tanks that got stuck in the mud.

and they took them out with javelins. He did not start that war. No, you're absolutely right. I mean, that would be just like saying, you know, Czechoslovakia started a war against Nazi Germany, or Poland started a war against Nazi Germany. The aggressor here is Vladimir Putin, and that needs to be recognized, that needs to be understood, and that needs to be confronted.

But I would like to see us do it first and foremost by those sanctions, by those economic means. By which we can cut them off. And again, you think about this: the trade imbalance that we have with China, the hundreds of billions of dollars and maybe trillions of dollars that they're getting. They're funneling that to Russia. They're enabling Russia.

They're enabling Iran. They're buying oil and those type of resources from Iran.

So that's how all of this ties together. If we can come back to what Senator Kennedy said, he does not understand. This is strategic. And I just would hope that maybe President Trump could sit down and give an Oval Office address and talk about the use of economic power from a strategic perspective and tie all of these countries together, this new axis of evil that we're facing. See, my feeling is I don't think I'd rather have Marco Rubio leading these negotiations.

Number one, no human being can do Iran, Gaza, And Ukraine. I mean, what are we talking about? I mean, this guy's a real estate guy. And you have Marco Rubio, who you know is understands foreign relations, who's been doing it for 16 years now, and plus he has an aptitude for it.

So listen to Steve Witkoff talk about what he thinks Putin's like, who's you know, he bet with him twice, cut thirty one. This is the third meeting I've had with him. This last meeting lasted close to five hours. We had two of his key advisors in the room at the time, Ushikov. And Kirill Dmitriev, and it was a compelling meeting, and towards the end, We actually came up with five and I'm going to say Finally, but I don't mean it in the way that we were waiting.

I mean it in the way that it took a while for us to get to this place, what Putin's request is to get to have a permanent peace here.

So beyond a ceasefire, we got an answer to that. I don't know. Uh I don't realize how much more patience you What do you think? Vladimir Putin is a steely eye killer. You cannot send a real estate agent over to talk with, negotiate, whatever you want to call it, with steely eye killers.

The only thing certain people understand is strength and might. And they understand when you look at them eye to eye and say, cut the crap. There will be consequences, and you say, Look, this is what we are demanding. Don't allow these people to think they have any moral high ground whatsoever. In in the Middle East So often, negotiations, compromise, all that stuff, they see that as weakness.

And I think that right now we have to be able to portray strength.

So I just got to bring it to this high school story in Texas as you could probably understand. His name is Carmelo Anthony, one inside the one under the tent of the opposing of the opposing school. And he was told to leave the tent against Austin Metcalfe asked him to, one of twins. And when he didn't leave the tent, he said, What are you going to do about it? He goes, You make me, one thing leads to another.

And he takes out a knife and stabs Austin Metcalfe to death. Cut 36 is now this Greg Willis. who's Cullen County Texas District Attorney found out the judge lowered the he's they've so far online they've raised $400,000 for his defense then they lower the bond to $250,000 and he makes bail cut 36. As far as the bond reduction goes Yeah, it's important for everyone to stay in their lane. And our lane was to argue that the judge should keep it at one million.

Uh, the court decided to reduce it down to 250,000, and as you mentioned. But additional conditions on that, including house arrest and electronic monitoring. He's going to say it's self-defense. He's already saying it. And Al Sharpton's going to be in your neighborhood before you know it.

What do you think?

Well, let's just put this if the shoe were on the other foot. Let's say that a white teenager was under a tent, wrongful tent, of a black teenager on a track meet, and they asked him to leave. And all of a sudden, he pulled out a knife and said, If you touch me again, you'll see what happens. And he stabbed a kid to death, and the kid ends up dying in his twin brother's arms. Can you imagine the outcry in this country right now?

Absolutely. So, now all of a sudden, we have this happening, and we have a black judge, Angela Tucker, up there in Collin County, who reduces the bail by 75%. Why was this kid carrying a knife to a track meet? No one can answer that. And if you want to talk about self-defense, you don't have any grounds for self-defense.

No one was carrying a weapon. You were asked to leave the tent where you were not supposed to be.

So, this is a travesty injustice. And Al Sharp is going to come down here, and he's going to get met with an incredible backlash. This right is right, and wrong is wrong. And everyone to always. Talks about social justice and all of this stuff.

What about when justice should be blind and justice should look at this and say, This is a teenager who murdered another teenager wrongfully. He had a weapon that he should not have had at a track meet. What are you doing with a knife at a track meet? It's crazy. Lieutenant Colonel Alan West, thanks so much.

My pleasure. God bless you and take care. And happy Easter. All right. Same to you.

Happy Easter to you and your family and everybody listening. Back in a moment. It's Brian Killmead. Breaking news, unique opinions. Hear it all on the Brian Kill Me Joe.

Don't forget about the paucity. That means the dearth. That means the lack of enthusiasm for these jobs at this moment. We need to do something collectively to reinvigorate enthusiasm for the skilled trades. And you've heard me say it a thousand times.

When we pulled shop class out of high school, we unleashed a kraken. And it's been an uphill slog ever since to persuade the kinds of people that we were just looking at to give these jobs an honest look. That's what keeps me up at night.

So that was Mike Rowe Saturday night, Sunday night, 10 o'clock on One Nation. I asked him because we're talking about bringing jobs back and people are nervous about the tariffs, but the blue-collar workers see that he's out there for them. And so is Scott Besant. He said on our show, income disparity is the one thing that worries him most about the country before he was Treasury Secretary. But I thought what he said next was also true.

Listen to what else Mike Rowe said, CUT 23. Since you mentioned my podcast, I'll tell you, most of the sponsors there make stuff in America. And I've been talking to them. I literally just got off the phone with the CEO at American Giant. And you got to put yourself in their place too.

For 15 years, they've been betting on this country. They're not affected at all by a global supply chain, but they're impacted by the ability to hire local talent in the manufacturing space. And I think that's what you're asking. Yeah. Right.

For me, I'm rooting for the president. I want to see a reinvigoration of American manufacturing. But he says There are currently 400,000 open positions in manufacturing in this country.

So that number blew me away. Owner of the president knows that. That's gonna be K. Listen to the Brian Kilme show. Go to BrianKilme.com.

Find out and see me in Dayton, Richmond, and Dallas. Keep it here. From high atop Fox News headquarters in New York City, always seeking solutions, never sowing division. It's Brian Kilmead. Hi, everyone.

Welcome to the latest moments of the Brian Killmead show.

So glad you're here. This hour is going to be exciting. We're going to have with us Emily Dominich, Senior Vice President of Boundary Stone Partners and former Senior Advisor to Speaker Kevin McCarthy. Bringing us inside the big beautiful Bill and David Wells, the workhorse pitcher for the superstar for the New York Yankees, three-time MLB All-Star, two-time World Series champion. I'm sure you can pitch nine innings right now.

We have a Fox Nation special out called Did Babe Ruth call his shot? He knows history. He loves the Yankees and their history. He's going to be with us shortly. And we'll zoom on that.

You can see that on video, on Fox Nation, or BrianKilmecho.com. And Varney and Company will do a similar cast. Keep in mind, if you want to get our podcast, if it works better for your schedule, when you can make your own schedule, we got a podcast every single day. Go to the Fox News app. Where you can hear the show and just click and watch, uh click and watch.

But you could also Get the podcast wherever you get your podcast, wherever you use Spotify or anything else.

So let's get to the big three. Number three. Harvard is acting more entitled than ever. President Trump made the direct and correct decision to defund to the tune of over $2 billion. U.S.

taxpayer dollars should never be propping up anti-Semitism. That is, you know who that is. That is Elise Stefanik, College Crackdown. Trump goes after the cesspool of anti-Semitic, anti-American behavior among faculty and students at elite colleges like Harvard, Columbia, and Princeton. And they are fighting back.

Why I believe this could be 47's greatest triumph and why he simply has to win it. Number two. China's been selling off treasuries for some time. It's not a brand new development. And for so many decades, we haven't had fair market access.

So again, we see China taking action, implementing their policy to try to be less tied up with us as well. Tariff Mania has brought to the surface simmering resentment China has for America and vice versa. They are acting out too, telling Boeing, we're not buying your stuff, telling America you're not getting our rare earth and metals and magnets. We have the latest. Number one.

Wrong. That was an outrageous scene in the White House, and there's a whole lot of lying going on. President Bukeley does have the power to release Obrego Garcia. Donald Trump is clearly ignoring a court order. Missing the point.

Border crossing apprehensions of illegal criminals is happening as such a clip. Even the most optimistic Trump supporter could not imagine this type of success. But yet, all the media is focusing on one MS-13 El Salvadorian who got sent back to El Salvador. And I find that hard to believe. And I'll just cover it real quick.

So there's this guy, and he was sent back that they say he was sent back to El Salvador, where he's from. He did come here illegally in 2019 when he was before a judge. The judge did say he was part of MS-13 gang. Also saying if we send him back. It might endanger him.

So let's hold him here.

So he has a family, lives in Maryland, and then Trump takes over. Ice looks at him and goes, This guy's got to be out of here. Let's send him out. And they sent him out. And then their Justice Department lawyer at the time said, I don't think we should have sent him out because the judge said he should stay here, even though he's MS-13.

Now, with Trump, you're MS13, you're out.

Now, but if you look at the courts, they say no, no, he should stay here.

So that's where the battle starts.

So A judge rules that the President's got to uh that he's got to try to facilitate him coming back to America, where I guess he would go to our prison. And I'm going to get into detail on it.

So they're going back and forth on this. And what does all these words, these little words, mean? Is the president really trying to get him back? Is the president of El Salvador really not able to get him here? This is a story.

But why is it the story? When you see border crossings, Are astoundingly low. Look at these numbers. In March of 2024, there were 4,488 per day, and that's low compared to 23 and 22 and 21. In February of 2025, this year, this term, this president, Three hundred.

And thirty. Got that? 4,100 more under Biden's last year. And that was his best year. In March of 2025, this past March just came to an end, 17 days ago, 264 per day, down 20%, down 94% from a year ago.

That's not unbelievable success. That is astounding. And so, when the president of El Salvador comes here, and he's the guy with the Super Max prison, then when he took over, he got threatened by gangs. He said, Okay. I'm taking the military.

We're going to go to every single house, get every single gang member. They tattoos themselves like idiots, and he grabbed them and threw them in jail, shaved their heads, threw them in jail. And now it's one of the safest countries in North America. And nobody noticed too. He went and started talking to some of the MS-13 guys and the TDA guys that he brought into his cell.

We're paying him to hold these guys. And this is what he said. I was struck by this cut through. Yeah, we even had this gang member from Venezuela, one of the ones you sent, and we interviewed him just to get some information, etc., from them. And he said, oh, well, you know, I got arrested six times.

But he released me there six times, so I should be released again. And then he said, well, what's the last thing you do? And he said, well, I shot a cop in the leg. But I didn't kill him. I just shot him in the leg.

And we're like, this guy was arrested six times here in the United States, six times. He was released six times.

So uh this are you know But you said yeah, but it's I mean there yeah, there's something broken. Of course, that's why they and Joe Biden would say it's not true, number one. Number two, it's because we need comprehensive immigration reform. And then you have Majorca say it's global migration.

So That to me is the story. But then they go all about this guy. I watched Jon Stewart. I usually, you know, I thought he's been relatively, just like. Bill Maher doesn't like Trump, but he's saying, How do I deal with this for the next four years?

I find him creative and funny. Even the. But this time was just all about this guy. I couldn't believe it.

So he only works one day a week, and that was his focus.

So I want to talk about tariffs.

So China's taking this as a war. There's two stories here. We're trying to reconfigure our relationships with our allies. And we did it. He said 10% across the board, 90-day hold, let's work out deals.

Over 100 countries have come to us. 10 are ready to go. We're going to announce them shortly. That, according to all the experts that are on the inside of these negotiations, and it's been pretty friendly. And I think Maloney comes on Wednesday or Thursday of this week.

So Italy's coming directly, and we're seeing everything come into place. But China said a Boeing aircraft, we don't want it. Rare earth and rare metals and magnets, you're not getting it.

So I'm struck by a few things.

Well, this Trump's in over his head. No. What I'm struck by is why the hell would we ever get our rare earth for all this modern technology and the electric cars that they love? Why would we depend on China for any of that? Especially at the wake up call we have to after the pandemic.

So they, the president says, I'll talk to China. And China says, no, not until you show some respect to us.

So James and Query was on a laurel last night. He's the U.S. trade representative. He's doing what Lighthizer did last time. I don't know why Lighthizer is not doing it again.

And this is what he said. about about China, Cut sixteen. Part of the reason why we're in this spot originally is because China had decades of unfair trade practices. They limited our market access and they took our jobs. They stole our technology.

And now, with the president's new tariff program, which is designed to reset the table and get down the trade deficit, China is the only country that actually implemented its retaliation and set it on this course.

So obviously that's concerning. And the president has been very clear that he's willing to talk to his counterpart and that he expects that at some point we'll have talks. We're not there yet, but that's his expectation, and I share that expectation. And we'll see where this goes, because they're sticking with it, and they want to do it, and they want to stick it to us. And I'm sure they've thought about this a lot, but they actually have less power now than 2018.

The question is, are we going to hold the line and at what cost? And what cost to small business, people that, you know, in small, you know, independent shops and small businesses. The New York Post has a series of stories of small businesses that potentially could be really hurt of devastated because their products are made over. Yeah. Here's Senator Tom Cotton.

Just wrote a best-selling book about China and the dangers, COT20. I don't think that he'll back down, at least in the short term. China has a lot of problems as well. Because of their monstrous, barbaric one-child policy, which resulted in the forced abortions of more than 300 million Chinese babies, more than 200 million forced sterilizations of Chinese women, they are in a demographic collapse. Their population is declining.

They have massive debt problems, both public debt and business debt. They have, as you said, these ghost cities and a massive real estate glut. These are all serious long-term problems for China's economy. At the same time, in the short term, it could actually make them more dangerous and more aggressive in the same way that a cornered animal can lash out.

So I think it's vital that we be vigilant, that we have strength and confidence in standing up for America and our friends in the Western Pacific against Chinese aggression, whether it's economic, diplomatic, political, or even military. Keep your eye on Senator Tom Cotton. He's with armed services, military background, no nonsense. He understands the threat, called out the pandemic. Told everybody he came for the lab before anyone thought that was possible.

He knew it. Smart guy. He was on One Nation Sunday night at 10 o'clock. Back in a moment with Emily Dominic. She's a former senior advisor to Kevin McCarthy.

Let's look at the big, beautiful bill and the battle against Ivy League education. Coming to you on a need-to-know basis, because Mandy, you need to know. It's Brian Kilmead. The fastest three hours in radio. You're with Brian Kilmead.

What if I was a young student at Columbia, they're on a green card, British, come in, happy to be here, do all my paperwork, get to Columbia. And I start leading a group which is a bunch of white supremacists, and we start terrorizing black students in the way that they're terrorizing Jewish students. Why not? In that circumstance, would we all be as comfortable with this? Or is it the reality which was exposed by the mobs at Columbia, which is that for some reason, Jews get treated differently to anybody else when it comes to this kind of thing?

Because if that had been, honestly, white supremacists treating black students like that, they would be out the country in terms of the country. And it's 100% right. That was with Bill Maher. And that drew with me right now to talk about this and more. Emily Dominich, Senior Vice President of Boundary Stone Partners, former senior advisor.

To Kevin McCarthy, your thoughts about what's happening now with this, with focus on these elite institutions. You know, I think what we're seeing play out, particularly in the letter from Harvard yesterday in response to the Trump administration, is a fundamental misunderstanding of their relationship with the United States government. They feel as though they have an entitlement to U.S. tax dollars, despite having a massive endowment that exists tax-free. And that is simply not the case.

They have no guarantee that they should be able to get U.S. tax dollars for research or for funding in any way, shape, or form. That's not something they deserve just on the outright.

So $2.5 billion the president took away yesterday that was going to Harvard because he said we told you to do a bunch of things to change things and fight anti-Semitism, adopt a merit-based hiring and missions. We're going to oversee that. Prioritize ideological diversity, didn't say Republican, reform programs with records of anti-Semitism, implement a mask ban, discipline students' involvement in anti-Israel encampments and city. They're also not happy with the curriculum. And they make up with the faculty.

And so they hired Robert Hurr. uh from the her report and William A. Burke who are known as conservative Legal attorneys. Yeah, I mean, I think they're looking to try to make the argument that they're being targeted for, you know, or their free speech is being limited or something along those lines. But I just, again, I think, you know, there's no, you don't have an entitlement to American taxpayer dollars.

They're supposed to, we're making an investment in your institution, and that means it's a two-way street, two-way relationship here.

So how about Barack Obama came out and Harvard has set an example to other higher institutions in fighting back, rejecting an unlawful and ham-handed attempt to academic freedom? Was he speaking out on the anti-Semitism at his former college of Harvard? Absolutely not. And I think, again, you know what? Harvard is free to do whatever they want on their campus.

But that doesn't mean you get to take taxpayer dollars. And we've actually seen this from conservative institutions, for example. I saw a tweet yesterday from Hillsdale College saying, you know what, there's another path, which means you don't take federal dollars and you can maintain your freedom to do and say whatever you want.

So I think it's, again, it's just a misunderstanding here. You also see these universities pushing back against things like the rate of funding they can. They have to spend on research versus administrative costs. Many of them are like suing the Department of Energy and the National Science Foundation, saying, Hey, you can't limit our ability to spend this research grant on our administrative costs because they're bleeding that money away that's supposed to go to fundamental science research. And that's that whole overhead breakdown.

Absolutely, yeah. As opposed to the actual research itself. Exactly. And now look at the faculty is way too big, the administrators, they're way too many, and they just up the number of, they up the tuition. But, Emily, the other thing to look at is who is deciding what international students get in?

And should there be a limit on countries investing in colleges? Texas Tech, Qatar, UAE? Why are you so interested in our academic institutions? What are they getting in return? Right.

And I think, you know, we have to go back to this place where it is a privilege to study at a U.S. institution. These are some of the best academic institutions in the world across the country. It shouldn't be a guarantee that you get to come and go to school here. And we ran into this back when I worked on the House Committee.

On science-based and technology. We spent a lot of time investigating how China was funding students to come to the United States who were part of their thousand talents program, who were bringing our research back to China, bringing our intellectual property back to China, benefiting from U.S. taxpayer dollars, doing research and development and partnering at these academic institutions on areas like physics and mathematics and engineering that all have defense applications back in China.

So we have to be thinking about the big picture here of like, what does the U.S. taxpayer fund? Really, really great research, but we need to make sure it's coming back into the U.S. economy. But the more this, if this is going to go forward, I want them to expose more and more what you're doing.

Okay, how do you hire people? How do you admit people? How much money are you getting from these guys? Do they want the discovery process of this fight?

So let's see.

So, the big, beautiful bill. Kev McCarthy was in charge of things like this. Unwieldy, not easy. This is what James Blair, the White House Deputy Chief of Staff, said about where we're at right now. I think Chad said if we have to go 12 steps, we're at between five and seven steps.

Cut 35. I absolutely see a way to a finish line, and you're right. It's not necessarily easy. There's a lot of this to work through, and I think we'll get it done pretty quickly. I think, you know, before the summer, early summer, you know, maybe around May or June.

Your thoughts, Emily. Yeah, I think he's right. You know, credit to Mike Johnson for being able to muscle this through again. Exactly. I mean, I think it all truly comes down to how much influence do the White House and President Trump have over the very conservative, fiscal conservative wing of the party.

Because those guys are going to be the ones that's going to be hard to get across the finish line because they have an expectation for spending cuts that the Senate probably can't stomach. We've heard actually some what I find to be crazy things out of some of those guys, like Andy Harris, for example, saying, hey, maybe we need to raise taxes on the richest Americans. From 37.5 to 39. Exactly, which I think it would be an absolute travesty for a unified Republican government to raise taxes. And we saw, you know, I saw Steve Scalise on TV this morning rejecting that proposal.

But that's the kind of things you're hearing from these conservatives because they are so dead set on making sure that they get the spending cuts they were promised.

So it's going to be an uphill battle.

So I think it's legitimate that we got to cut the deficit. Absolutely. That's why Doge, their cuts got to be figured into this, right?

Well, they do, but I will say, you know, we saw the first numbers coming out of Doge for the rescissions package this morning, and it's around $9 billion, which is a great start, guys. But we've got to do way more than that if we're going to actually tackle our deficits. I was shocked by how small that number is. It's a really small number. And, you know, Congress should immediately pass it.

$9 billion is not a huge number for the appropriators to swallow, but I think that's a great test to see whether or not they have the juice to really cut spending. Because at the end of the day, lots of congressmen talk about wanting to cut spending. None of them want to cut their spending. But they also don't want to cut Medicare, Social Security, or Medicaid, right? Right.

And those are the big spenders. You know, we have to get into the entitlement space if we're really going to start talking about deficits and debt. But right now, all we're doing is like to me, that the Doge package is the low-hanging fruit, so it should be easy and quick. Are you fascinating that Joe Biden's? Going to speak today.

Mm-hmm. Can people ever just retire? Can we ever get to a point where our politicians retire and go home? Can I predict that he's going to say Social Security is being taken away from the United States? Oh, of course.

He's going to say Republicans want to $800 billion for Medicaid, you guys. You should go out and raise money for Democrats. Is he going to say I could have beat Trump? Oh gosh, I hope so. He's already said it.

I hope so because it'll make the Dems apoplectic and that'll be angry. They'll be angrier than Trump.

Okay. For sure. 100%. That would make sense. Emily Dominic, thanks so much for coming in.

David Wells is next. David Wells will bring us inside this Fox Nation special. The Babe Ruth Cola shot. Thanks, Emily. Thanks for having me.

The talk show that's getting you talking. You're with Brian Kilmead. There's been debates ever since 1932 as to whether or not Ruth called his shot. You get a room of people and they're all witnesses to an event, they're all going to give you a different interpretation of how that event took place. The Cub fan perspective was it was all nonsense.

In my opinion, he called the shot and he hit it where he pointed. That's what made Beverus so strong. Because he would just talk smacking and back it up. I want to believe that there was somebody out there who was big enough, bad enough, cocky. Enough to call his shot and actually make it happen.

I don't think there's any event in sport that is more disputed. than whether or not Babe Ruth called his shot. And that's why Fox Nation is doing a special on it. Did Babe Bruth call his shot against the Cubs after getting heckled by the Cubs bench? Did he point over the wall and did he hit it right there?

David Wells loved the Yankees, their history, took great pride in knowing all about it. And that was a great call to put him on this special. Three-time All-Star, two-time World Series champion. Could probably pitch nine innings right now. Never hurt.

Did inning tours? Yes, you can. David, welcome back. Thank you, Brian. I appreciate you being here, being with you.

Talk to some baseball. You always appreciate the Yankee legacy. I know Don Larson, because you guys were both no-hitters. But when did you start getting attracted to the Yankee background? As a little kid, just when I s first started playing the Little League Baseball, You just started reading.

Like in school, you always heard about Babe Ruth. And when you're playing baseball, you got to check it out. And back then, no computers, we didn't have anything.

So we had to go to the books. And Babe Ruth just stood out to me like a sore thumb. It was pretty cool, you know, what he did for the game of baseball, his lifestyle. It was just like, I want to be that guy.

So that's kind of how I. You know, adopted that and just do my whole career, just started reading up on him and watching everything else. Yeah, before we just talk more about this for if we can.

So they asked you to do this project about him calling the shot. What is so mythical about it? You know, it's just because Babe Ruth was so, I mean, he was, everyone was infatuated by him. I mean, what everything that he did, but for him to do things off the norm, that was Babe Ruth. You know, Babe Ruth was.

What he did back then, guys wish they would do now because nobody does anything anymore. But you know, he was just he had attitude, he had charisma, he had, you know, he talked a lot of smack because you know what, when you're that great, At that point, you know, people are going to come after you, as you well know. And, but, you know, to me, I think he called the shot because you see all the videos, you see all the pictures and all that, and then all the hoopla going on in the dugout.

So he just pointed the bat out there and says, I'm going to hit it there. And he did. That's pretty amazing. I won't ask what happened if someone called the shot when you were on the mound, how you would feel about that. Here's, they said the Yankees, when they got to the game, especially, they were hearing it from the fans when they got on the bus, cut 46.

The Yankees, now with a 2-0 Series lead. Jumped on a train to Chicago for Game Stream 4. As they arrived at Union Station, they received a hostile welcome to say the least. Lemons were thrown at ballplayers. And the babe and his wife got the worst of it.

They were spat on by angry fans. For old-time ball players, I guess this was par for the course. In the 20s and 30s, it was a rougher game, period. Fighting was not unusual. And Babe Ruth, he took the brunt of things and he was ready for it.

Chicago was a hotbed of baseball. And it was a Big game, it really was. The crowd was huge. There were 50,000 fans there. And Ruth attracted, of course, the most.

Attention. Right, and of course he got it, and the Yankees end up winning that series. But back then, David, it was just what you win your division, you go to the World Series, right? Right. So that made it quicker, and all of a sudden the two big cities.

It must have brought the team closer though to also to take the train. Can you imagine that? Being on the train with your teammates for hours? There'd be a lot of fights going on. I guarantee you that.

Because some guys want to sleep, some guys want to play cards, they want to do their thing. You know, and I look at it back then, and back in them days, if you're doing a lot of people smoked, everybody smoked cigarettes or cigars. And you know, I was never a smoker. You know, I'd have cigars, but you know, from time to time, But that would just annoy the hell out of me and I would probably entice me to take it out of his mouth, snap it, or then probably end up getting in a fight. Right.

You know what's so interesting back then? You know, they talk about the players having no power. You remember when Vicky Mantle hit the guy, got the triple crown, he basically said, okay, you can stay, come back next year. The players had no power back then, but Ruth was like a little like Jack Johnson in boxing. He was bigger than the sport.

And famously, when he was asked, you know, how come you're getting paid more than the president? He said, I had a better year than he did.

So he was really before his time. He really was, but when you're that, I mean, he was good, but nobody knew what he was capable of doing until a few more years into his career, and then he just blossomed. You know, when you're that big, you know, you're gonna get paid. And a lot of other guys are probably jealous because you look at guys like Ty Cobb, Cy Young, Walter Johnson, pitchers like that that were just incredible. Never even sniffed in the amount of money that Babe Ruth made, but like you said, he was outgoing.

Like, you know, I wanted to be when I was in New York, I went out every night. You know, I just was larger than life, and that was Babe Ruth. And, you know, because I wanted to emulate him at some point, but I had to go do my job. And that guy would go. out all night.

Probably way more than I did, and just produce. And you know, that's why he got paid. And he did have a better year than president. He did. You know, so interesting because he pitched and played for Boston.

When the Yankees got him, he just played the field, right? Yeah, I mean, he won 23 games twice. You know, I never won 23 games. I won 20, you know, once in 19. And to me, he's.

He was a two-way player, but you know, a 5-12 player back then, because he could play outfield, he could throw. Obviously, he can, well, let's take 4-12 because I don't think he could run very good. But other than that, the man was just amazing. He was a freak back in the 20s, 19s and 20s. He was a freak.

All right. So, and I want to talk about baseball, but get this on Fox Nation. And it drops. It's available right now today. Did Babe Ruth call his shot?

Here's the debate that you'll get. Here's a sample of the debate you get throughout the show, CUD 47. I think when you watch the footage, he's going back and forth with the Cubs bench, which had been going on for days, by the way. And if you watch the footage, he's doing this. Not this.

He's doing this. And when he hits the home run, as he's rounding the bases, he's still doing this to the Cubs bench. Others see the footage a bit differently. I choose to believe he did. Because at the end of the day, I want to believe in that story.

I want to believe that there was somebody out there who was big enough, bad enough, cocky enough to call his shot and actually make it happen. I've watched baseball for 44 years and I've never seen it done. Yeah, so that's a little bit of debate. And you're a part of it, David.

So you're going back in history. Can we talk about baseball, Tay? Are you following it? Not really, not really. I just with the games, the analytics of the game, the changes of the game.

It's kind of like a turnoff to me, but once in a blue moon, I might catch an inning or two. But other than that, I just don't really follow it as much anymore. But, you know, I read up on it.

So I'm struck by one thing that I think you can respond to. Otani hits gets a almost a billion dollar contract. It what it was it two hundred fifty thousand against the cap? Who ever heard of that? It's all deferred money.

You can't pay for the best player in baseball an all-time record amount and only count a small fraction against the cap that gets you to the luxury tax. I mean, how is that fair that the Dodgers did that? It's you know what?

Well, he deferred a lot of it too. Yeah, no, that's what I mean.

Well, he freed up a lot of money for the Dodgers, but, you know, and there's still, like Bobby Benilla, he deferred his money. He's still getting paid. Probably one of the greatest contracts in the history. And but for that, when you defer the money, you could do that. You know what?

I think George Steinbrutter probably would have done the same thing because he wanted to win. He wasn't afraid to stop. Oh, I'm not, I don't fault the Dodgers. I fought the league. I fought the league.

You got to just say, listen, you could defer a portion, but there's got to be like two-thirds got to count against a cap. Because, I mean, the pirates might as well be in the pirates, the A's. These other teams are twins. It's almost like they're playing in a different league. Yeah, but you know what, Brian, it's one guy.

So, one guy is not going to win you the World Series. He's good. They want to keep him there. It was a lengthy contract. And to me, it's.

It's something that it shouldn't happen. I don't think anybody should be paid that kind of money, but God bless them for getting it. You know, now you're seeing I think Soto got seven hundred thousand seven hundred million. Um I think it was Mike Trout, what did he get, 400 million? Or something like that.

But so those are the numbers that we Could only fathom when we were playing. And when I first came up and I got to the big leagues, I think the most amount, I think Ricky Henderson was making 2 million. You know, George Bell might have been making 1.5.

So that was huge back then. When I signed my first million-dollar contract, Man, I thought I was on top of the world. I thought I was set for life.

Nowadays, you're not set for life. You need to have at least, you know, 5 million at least, and be smart with your money. To even get it in the sports world because sports athletes, you know, what all across the board live a different lifestyle than most people. But if they're not smart with their money, They're going to be in the dump. And you've seen a lot of players do that.

A lot of athletes go down. And you just got to be smart with it. It's like everyday, you know, Joe Schmo. You have to be smart with your money to survive. We only got less than a minute left, but how much do the Yankees push to be win now with the judge era?

You know, he's already 32 years old, 33 years old. How much would you push of your GM of that team to get the talent to win now?

Well, you have to, and it starts with pitching. You know, Garrett Croll went down. You know, that's a big loss for the Yankees. But for them, the pitching has to be solid because they've got the offense. It just has to gel.

You know, 97 to 98, when I was there, we had both ends of it, so we were good. David Wells, you're always good. Thanks again.

Now, the Brian Kilmead Show joins Fox Business's Varney and Company with Stuart Varney, live on your radio and on Fox Business. Here's Brian Kilmead. Hi everyone, welcome back. In a few minutes, we're going to be joined by Stuart Varney on his show, FBN, Fastest Growing Cable Network in the Country. Number one in business, by the way, especially now.

I mean, the numbers are through the roof. People want to unwind, get ahead, understand, and not get caught not understanding the tariffs.

So we'll be on with him. Just a quick note: John, go to BrianKillme.com, History of Liberty, and Laughs, Dayton, June 21st. August 23rd in Dallas, Texas. And then, of course, in September 27th, I'll be in December 23rd. Yeah, Richmond, Virginia.

So go to BrianKilme.com. I can't wait to see you in person. We've got radio affiliates everywhere, so I hope to see. Get to see the radio audience, which I don't get to see enough. Usually when I have a book tour, this is a little independent.

So let's go.

Alright, Brian. Trump froze $2 billion worth of grants after Harvard rejected his demands to eliminate DEI and combat anti-Semitism.

Now he's putting more pressure on the school. Here's what he wrote today. Perhaps Harvard should lose its tax-exempt status and be taxed as a political entity if it keeps pushing political, ideological, and terrorist-inspired supporting sickness. Not sure what that means. Remember, tax-exempt status is totally contingent on acting in the public interest.

All right, Brian. How do you see this thing playing out? Harvard can afford to lose $2 billion worth of grants, can't they? Just the beginning every year, and a lot of times they don't want to touch that endowment unless they have to.

So, if you want your academic freedom, then you can go ahead and do what Hillsdale does and don't take any money. But if you do want to get federal grants from the government because you want to do the research, then you got to find a way to clean up anti-Semitism. You know, it's been over a year and a half. I don't see any people rushing to find out what's at the cusp of that and who is really behind the unrest because Israel is attacked and attacked back. Also, I would love to know what's going on with their international students.

I'd love to know what's going on with their curriculum. I'd like to know why they need remedial math at Harvard. I thought this was the best of the best. And we're not talking about an outstanding football player or basketball player that needs some academic help. We're used to stuff like that, even at the Ivies.

We're just talking about students. What are you using to judge people?

So, he's saying, Okay, I like to know what your admissions is. I want to make sure DEI is not playing a role. I want to look at your faculty and see if there's some diversity. There. Also, keep in mind Princeton also going the Harvard path.

They're looking to sue back to get their money back. And they don't like that Columbia acquiesced and hasn't got their $400 million back. And I think about this too. This perhaps might be Donald Trump's potentially greatest, great, most significant accomplishment. Going into the upper echelon of our institutions and finding out where all the anti-Americanism is and stopping with the foreign money from enemy nations who seem to want to twist the American mind and put their students who don't like the country in the classroom.

You got it. A separate story here. I know you've seen this, but you watch it again and let the viewers see it. Vice President Vance, he dropped Ohio State's National Championship Trophy. Watch.

Later, Vance wrote on X: I didn't want anyone after Ohio State to get the trophy, so I decided to break it. At least you've got a sense of humor, Brian. For the radio audience, just know that J.D. Vance and the president were honoring the Ohio State Buckeyes National Championship with a trophy that had two pieces. I don't know why they did it in two pieces.

It had a base and it had a trophy. And he was holding it at the top, not at the bottom, which anybody would. And it just broke. It looks like it broke in half, but they put it back together.

So they were able to go, all right, of course, he's from Ohio. I say this: I don't blame J.D. Vance. I blame the trophy maker, number one. Number two, great recovery, and number three.

Three. Um We also watched Jeff Bezos go to greet his capsule and fall on his face. We watched Governor Gretchen Whitmer, a star on the left, cover her face with a folder rather than be seen in the Oval Office. And then we watched J.D. Vance, a guy who's really cool under pressure, separate a trophy.

This should all give us a feeling that we can screw up in public, and there's other people that do it who are at the top of their game.

So we should feel better should that ever happen to a Stuart Varney at a big speaking event. I used to do those, but I don't anymore. I like the way you say separating a trophy. Nice choice of words, though, Ryan. Smart guy.

Good diplomat, too. Kilmead, you, sir. All right. We'll see you again soon. Go get him, Stuart.

Still ahead. All right. That was Stuart Varney on FBN. This was always cool.

So we just watched him flub. I don't know if you guys saw Jeff Bezos after the capsule landed. Blue Origin landed with four women aboard. Who uh Katy Perry? His is his wife or fiance was on there?

Um who was Gail King, um, and then there were there was like uh Actually, an astronaut is the first woman from the Bahamas in space, and someone else, I think, is some sort of author, possibly. Um, but yeah, so he but yeah, Bezos fell on his face. Right. And then he fell to try to get to the capsule.

So it just goes to show you, you could have the most money in the world. You could be the coolest guy in the world. And you could still fall flat on your face.

So we'll see how that goes.

So the President's going to be speaking today. The former president is going to be speaking today with Joe Biden. He's going to be addressing senior, handicapped seniors, I think, and he is expected to address Social Security. At which time, you know, it's going to say in his speech that you're not going to listen to, and I might have to listen to in order to make the show better tomorrow. He is going to say That Elon Musk called the De Ponzi scheme.

and that Donald Trump is going to cut your benefits.

Now, he called it a Ponzi scheme because essentially it is. Because what they did is, when the money went to Social Security, it was borrowed by various governments over the course of decades and used for other things. At which time they said, well, by the time those per people are ready, we'll put the money back. It was just sitting there anyway. We just need it for other things.

So we had to move money around to pay people. It's not that it was created as a scheme, but by the way the money was cycled around, it looks like a Ponzi scheme because the money is just moved around to whoever needs it. It is going bankrupt. And if Joe Biden had a brain in his head, and he doesn't, he would say this thing is going bankrupt by 2035. The way I'd attack it is this.

The way I urge the Democratic Party to do it is this. Instead, he's going to say Donald Trump, just like I told you, will bankrupt Social Security. And didn't I do a great job? And how corrupt is this guy? And he's gonna scream it at the top of his lungs.

You know what's different now? Nobody likes Joe Biden, and Joe Biden doesn't like anybody in the Democratic Party. From Barack Obama to Nancy Pelosi, he doesn't wanna talk to them, and they don't wanna talk to him. And I'd rather not hear from Joe. From the Fox News Radio Studios in Midtown Manhattan, it's the fastest growing radio talk show.

Brian Kilmead. Hi, everyone. Thanks so much for being there. It's the Brian Killmeat Chill. As we move through Tuesday, it's a lot going on.

Sean Davis is going to be with us, CEO and co-founder of the Federalist former economic advisor, Governor Rick Perry. And Mike Rogers is standing by. A big announcement yesterday: he's going to run for the other Senate seat in Michigan. He almost won the last one, just a few thousand votes shy. And now he's going to go back in and try to replace Democrat Gary Peters.

And I think he's going to end up with the full support of the White House. And we'll see where this goes. A lot of breaking news right now. The market is up 134 points on the news that he might give a pause on the cars, new cars in terms of tariffs, because a lot of these car companies are coming up to the president saying, hey, you know what? Most of my parts are overseas.

I am mostly an American car made, but I need parts from elsewhere. If you tax them, tariff them, I'm going to have to up my price because my margin is so small. And the president's beginning to listen. We'll talk about that. We'll talk about.

We'll talk about the college crackdown as well as what's happening with the border, which is all good. With me right now is Mike Rogers.

Okay, he's going to be with us shortly. All right, so let's talk about what's happening at the border. And I think this is pretty astounding, too. And the Border Patrol worked with the Marines and with the Army to totally control things. We're only just about, on the average, about 200 plus people a day trying to get across.

You know what they're also doing? They're not only building the wall, but what they were doing before is they would put the wall, they'd get a huge ladder or some type of lift, and then they would put constantine wire on top.

So it's okay, the illegal immigrants, the cartel members, would get all the way up to the top, throw a blanket over it, and just jump over. Bye.

So these guys had a great idea. They said, what if we put concertina wire about four feet below?

So if they gonna go and jump, they will go into a bed of of razors. And they just, a bunch of guys in their 20s went to San Diego, pioneered it in the Army, came back and said, what do you think, sir? And they go, we're going to do this. And that's why they're having the success they're having right now. Which is just astounding.

And Tom Holman has a lot to do with that, just everyone being on the same page. We'll see where that goes. But most people are focusing on when it comes to the border, what is happening in the courts with this one. MS-13 member. That's according to a judge who is presiding over the case of Kilmar Obrego-Garcia.

This is what Pam Bondi said as he was shipped out to El Salvador, where he was born, where he came from before he came here illegally. They keep saying Maryland Dad. or Metal, yeah, Maryland pop f uh husband, whatever. They don't bring bring up MS thirteen. Here's what Pam Bondi said about this guy's background.

While the court ruled they should take him back because there was a ruling that he shouldn't go back to El Salvador because he's j is Survival could be jeopardized because I guess he's on the ouch with MS-13. Cut five. When you're listening to all these liberal reporters, they keep calling him a Maryland man. He's not a Maryland man. He's part of a foreign terrorist organization.

He's a member of MS-13, who, as you laid out in your monologue, came to this country and committed just. gang acts, he was caught and he was two judges, an immigration judge and an appellate judge, ruled that he was an MS thirteen member as well as ICE's testimony.

So that's where it stands.

Now the courts want them to bring him back. And that's what everyone's talking about now. That's what Democrats are jumping on. Not that they brought border crossings down 97%. Not that they're down to just 200 a day.

Not that they're getting cooperation from Mexico now that put 10,000 Marines on their border. Not that they've gotten land of Mexico's with their permission and the Interior Secretary's permission in order to let the military, like the 10th Mountain Division, do their job and stop the cartels. I think they're down to 32% of where it was in terms of drugs coming across our border, on where it was a year ago. 32%. It's all about this guy.

Everyone's seeing political opportunity. Here's Marco Rubio, cut six. The foreign policy of the United States is conducted by the President of the United States, not by a court. And no court in the United States has a right to conduct a foreign policy of the United States. It's that simple.

End of story. And that's what he's saying. And that's what the judge of the Supreme Court said. But they said you've got to do the best you can to bring him back. The head of El Salvador is there.

President Val Salvador goes, No, I don't think so. I don't think I'm bringing him back. Let's bring in Mike Rogers now. Mike, welcome back. Hey, Brian, it's great to be back.

You know, I decided to run for the Senate because I know you missed me. I know. It's been about two months. You barely I mean, that's a tough loss. I don't blame you for needing to collect yourself because you worked so hard for it.

The nomination wasn't easy. That was a tough road. And then uh you lose to uh Lisa Slotnik by how many votes? About nineteen thousand out of five point six million votes cast.

So three tenths of a percent. How did she run? What did she say during this time about Joe Biden and Tom O'Hara? Did she embrace that agenda? No, she talks about working with Trump.

She talked about how she gets along with everybody, works with everybody. The crazy thing, she went on the view after, this is what drives me crazy about the people who really are left of far left of center who claim to be moderate. and said anybody that voted for Donald Trump does not have a fully developed brain. No, it's 58% or excuse me, 52% of Michiganders voted against her, right?

So with third parties and everything else. I don't know if I would have started there. But uh you know listen, I I get it. Um thirty two years, we've had two Democrats in those seats. And it and we just really didn't get a chance to define ourselves very well.

But with very little resources and a magnificent ground game, we were able to come within just a whisper of beating. And here's another interesting, I got more Republican votes statewide in Michigan as a statewide Michigan candidate than any other candidate in Michigan history. Yeah, I mean, I mean, you got really close, so that's why, like Dave McCormick, Dave McCormick barely lost to Oz, who lost to Fatterman. And then he came back and won that Senate seat against an established candidate like Casey.

Now you're going to run in an open Senate seat. Yeah. an open seat, great name ID. Actually, despite all their negative advertising, my positives are on the upside. And here's the great thing about this.

All we have to do because we got so many votes in the last election, if we get eighty five percent of the people who have already showed up and voted for Mike Rogers to return to the poll in the midterm, That would be about fifty one percent of the votes. for us to win.

So I mean, think of that. We don't have to go convert Democrats, although we're going to try. There's a lot of disaffected Democrats. We just need you to go and do this one more time, but you got to show up to vote. And so that's our challenge.

But we know who we know who that universe is. We know what issues get them fired up. Uh we think this is, you know. just a really good opportunity to finally put some different thought in one of those Senate seats in Michigan. I mean, their tenure for the last thirty two years hasn't been all that great, having two Democrats think exactly the same way, talk exactly the same way and obstruct Good things from happening in the same way.

It's at least to have somebody in there that has a different opinion on things might be pretty good for the state. Right. So you had Governor Whitmer say some things. I'm going to work with Donald Trump when I can. Tariffs in principle.

I agree with how they're done. We might disagree with. She gave her cell phone number to Trump that if you need anything in Michigan, is that the attitude the people of Michigan want? They say purple, but do they like when both sides get along or show an interest in each other? I think they do as a general populace at the end of the day, because our problems are pretty real.

And it's not a solid I don't believe it's a blue state. It is a purple state. And so people are saying, hey, yeah, I want my perspective at the table. I don't mind you working with somebody to get our perspective done. That's the difference in a state like Michigan.

And we've been getting hammered. We've been losing manufacturing year in and year out here. And it's been pretty devastating. Every time a manufacturing job leaves Michigan, that's one middle class family. that doesn't have an opportunity here.

I mean, those jobs are really important for the everyday men and men and women of our state who get up and go to work every day. And so that's why this becomes important. And that's why they're saying, hey, if they can get an agreement and save manufacturing jobs, I'm in.

So right now, Donald Trump says he's considering pausing the auto tariffs as the world economy endures some of the whiplash. And with that, the market's having another good day. Friday was good, Monday was good, Tuesday was good. We're over 40,000 now.

So tell me about the challenges of the auto industry, who a lot of these union representatives were behind the President in the Rose Guard on April 7th on Liberation Day. H how do you view it?

So Listen, I think Tariffs as a tool, a targeted tool that are temporary, can be very, very effective. And here's why you have to do it. Think of this. American's automobile industry, 80% of engines and drivetrain are produced somewhere else, not in the United States, certainly not in Michigan. That's really not sustainable for a long-term automobile industry.

And I'm not talking about just assembly. I'm talking about production of engines and transmissions and all of those things. It's produced somewhere else around the world. And that has to end. And by the way, some of those countries are not treating us very fair on the tariff front.

We get higher tariffs than they're charging, and they're trying to keep our products out of their markets.

So I believe that we have to do this at some point. I mean, China showed us today, Brian, why this is so important. They decided they were going to the materials to make these magnets, they were going to stop. Export of these things, which really hurts military industry, electric cars, all of these things. And they did it because they can.

And we put ourselves in a position to let them do that to us. We cannot sustain this. It's not sustainable. If we ever had a major conflict in the world, guess what? Who's building our engines?

No, no, I hear you. Not only that, it's critical minerals N, they say heavy rare earth metals, rare earth magnets. And they have it.

Now, number one, why are we getting our rare earth from China? And they knew that was the card they were going to play. They put it immediately. Then they started, we're not going to buy Boeing aircraft. First off, from off the top of your head, Mike Rogers, do you know where else we could get these rare earths?

Well, here's the good thing. There's lots of places who are friendly that want to participate. But when you can't, it takes 26 years to get a permit to get a mine for some of these materials, let alone process it.

So even Australia mine it, and guess where they send it to get processed? China, almost 90% of it. And so this is something that is fixable, and we can take it out of the hands of people who have nuclear missiles pointed at us, candidly, and I think we should, for this very reason. You have now put them in charge of a sliver of our military and defense base as well as our regular commercial base. Would you do a Defense Production action that would make it an emergency like we did with ventilators?

You know what I what they did that I really liked? The Trump administration did rapid permitting.

So if you have it, and based on our national security need, they can go through and rapidly do this twenty-six years. to get uh you know lithium or nickel or uh or or even uh rare earths out of the ground is ridiculous. That's why we're losing. And so the left took over all of the agencies that go through permitting to allow these things to happen. And by the way, much more environmentally friendly to get it out of the ground here than it is anywhere else in the world.

And they wouldn't let them, you can't get it.

So all the investment went where people would actually allow mines.

So there's a lot of effort now to work with our African friends about getting off agreements.

So in other words, if you produce it, we'll buy it. And the other thing China does, this is why we're going to have to get creative on this. You go out and you get a mine of which they know they have cornered the market on whatever fill in the blank material, they just drop the price of the material.

So what that does is the private sector goes in and they can't they're dead, right? They can't make it. Because China has just dropped the price from whatever, a dollar a ton to 10 cents a ton.

Well you're losing your fanny, you can't do it, you've got to leave. They've done this over and over and over. And they do it because they want to control these rare earths.

So, my argument is that let's put in place these off-take agreements where the U.S. government says. We're going to pay a base floor of this. If you want to sell it in the open market for more, have at it. But when China tries to dump and it hits this price level, we'll buy it.

And by the way, we need it. It's not like we're doing something that we don't need. And that way you can at least start pushing back on the Communist Party's ability to fluctuate prices and tank a capitalist way of trying to get stuff out of the ground. I think that's the kind of thing we have to do. And then this rapid permitting that the Trump administration came out with in an executive order is really effective.

Now we just need to put all the players around the table and say we need to get this done.

So when you look at the tariffs, and yes, it's hard. I mean, you know, everybody's 401k is getting flapped around. If he can actually bring companies back, which he's doing, investment back, which is happening, and let's put everyone on notice, listen, you're not going to be able to hinder U.S. products being sold in your country anymore. We're just not going to do that anymore.

If you're charging us 10%, we're going to charge you 10%. You're charging us 25%, we're going to charge you 25%. And if we get to that parity, America will win. We're going to win that fight. But it's not been parity.

And this is the really hard part. And I think people got to give them a little time. I mean, when you get India and Japan and South Korea and Vietnam saying, hey, we're all ready to deal, that's huge for us. That's a big win for us. I know.

And we've got to just watch how rough we are with our allies. You've got to be rough to you. Don't do it publicly because they have egos and they have constituents too. Lastly, Mike, we only got 30 seconds, but what do you think of Cash Patel so far? You have that FBI background?

Yeah, listen, I think he's doing the right kinds of things. You have got to take the politics out. He's doing exactly that. If they can continue to focus on catching criminals in America, that's what the FBI is supposed to do. That's the FBI I joined, and that's the work I did.

There's nobody better at it when it's functioning like that. All right, Mike, hopefully, this is just one of many appearances as you try to get that sentence eat that just eluded you last time. Mike Rogers, thanks so much. Hey, thanks, Brian. All right, he is going to be running for the Republican Six to get the nomination and then try to become the Republican for Michigan.

Don't move. You listen to the Brian Kilmead Show. Diving deep into today's top stories, it's Brian Kilmead. He's so busy, he'll make your head spin. It's Brian Killmead.

When you are out there at this moment, This rocket feels like it is alive. It feels like it is a living thing, right? And there's the gantry pulling back. And this right here is the moment that they've been training for. Two days becoming a crew, becoming a team.

After you go through an experience like this, it's more than a team. It's almost like a family. You are so tight to go through something as intense as this. As you said, this is like a bridled beast. This thing wants to take off.

Switch to onboard helium. Here we go. Good luck and Godspeed, ladies. We're cheering you on from the rock termination system is armed.

So they were training for two days. The bond that you forged for those two days. You're like a family. You don't forget that. Right.

We learned how to zip up our onesies and then we learned how to sit in a seat and then undo the seat belt when I got up in the air and then came right back down. Look, it shows Jeff Bezos will put his fiancé up there. And for the most part, they get along.

So it shows how safe it is.

Well, that's true. The funniest part is they don't say Jeff Bezos' fiancé. They said I'm an award-winning journalist. And I said it to Eric yesterday. I was like, oh, award-winning journalist Lauren Sanchez on it.

He goes, Who is that? It doesn't ring a bell. I go, exactly. It's Bezos' fiancé. That's why.

Right. So they went up there. I mean, just, and the other one, the CBS anchor. Oh, Gail King. She says, realize how bad we are down here.

We're arguing with each other too much. The world is too new. Until you get up in the air, you realize how mean we are to each other or something. I'm going, what are you talking about? There's no borders.

Someone else said that too. There's all borders. We're all there together. We should get along more. Yeah, good luck with that.

Then open up your door. Good spirit. All right, so good. Maybe I'm bitter because I wasn't asked to go on for Friday. Information you want, truth you demand.

This is the Brian Kill Me Show. But are you prepared for China to consider selling assets it holds in the United States? And do you want that to happen?

Well remember, China's been selling off Treasuries for some time. It's not a brand new development. The Treasury's market will fluctuate. I'm not the Treasury Secretary, so I'm not the best poised to talk about that. But I think the issue is we've become so dependent on China, and for so many decades we haven't had fair market access.

So again, we see China taking action, implementing their policy to try to be less tied up with us as well. So that is the trade representative. And he's telling me he's talking about what what we're up against. And it looks like China is taking this personal. And it went from tariffs on everybody to tariffs just on China.

And they decide to that's Jameson Greer. They decide to number one. Stop selling us rare earth. Number two, cut off sales of Boeing aircraft. Good luck with that.

So you're basically Airbus or bust. And if you're in a rush, don't expect to get it right away. Sean Davis joins us now. He's CEO and co-founder of the Federalist, former economic policy advisor for Governor Rick Perry. Sean, what's your take on where we're at right now with China?

Well, I think we're at a little bit of a standstill right now. A lot of people are trying to analyze this as though negotiations have failed or this is the end. We're at the very beginning stages of a move to really do two things. One, we have to decouple from China. If we didn't learn that after COVID, we're nuts.

But we have to decouple from China and have our own independence and not dependence on a foreign enemy of ours for key goods that we have. And then we also have to reindustrialize in America. They're two sides of the same coin. And so I think where we are now with China is we're trying to see who's going to blink first as we work to get decoupled from them and build back up our own manufacturing base so we don't have to depend on our enemies for key strategic goods. But their actions are so aggressive, Sean.

They said until we're not showing them respect and they think the tariff move by Trump is laughable and a joke, and they decide to amp up the aggression. Instead of just saying, okay, we're going to go over one hundred percent tariffs, they do the two things I just mentioned. What do you read between the lines there? Do they want this fight? Have they been ready for this?

No, I kind of view that for people who are out there who are poker players, I view this as like a pretty early bluff from China. They know we have the stronger hand. They don't have the domestic capacity to support their economy. China cannot exist without everyone else buying their stuff. That's why China has such a massive trade surplus.

They've got a weak hand here. We know they've got a weak hand. They know that we know they've got a weak hand. And I think they're engaged in some early on bluffing here to see if they can kind of maybe blink us off, maybe lead us to believe they're tougher and stronger than they are. It might have worked with another president.

I don't think Trump's going to buy that, to be honest.

Well, he said, I'm open to talking. They say, no, not until you show us respect. And they have played their two best cards, I think. You know, outside invading Taewan. Taiwan When you go out and take rare earth from us, and that hurts electronics, hurts our military.

The other thing, Sean, I cannot believe that we're still relying on them for rare earth and magnets and heavy metals. It makes no sense.

Well, I don't think we're totally dependent on them for rare earth minerals. We call them rare earth. We're talking about stuff like lithium and cobalt, which is generally used for the long-lasting batteries. They're not as rare as the name would lead you to believe. What we actually don't have is the capacity to kind of refine them into the form that we need.

It's another major reason why we have to build up our industrial capacity here and reindustrialize, number one. Number two, it's also a good sign of why you shouldn't, as a nation, go all-electric or try to go all electric because you end up with these types of sticky supply chains where you're having to depend on people who don't like you to just be able to literally function as an economy. To me, that's nuts.

So, I want you to hear what Ray Dalio says: you know, respected investor, Bridgewater founder, CUD 18. Do you think that these tariffs are being carried out in a practical way or a chaotic way? I think we'll see so far very disruptive.

So far, very disruptive, right? And so we don't know what the numbers are. But that could be part of a process, right? It depends where we are at the end of the ninety days. I think that right now we are at a decision making point and very close to a recession.

And I'm worried about something. worse than a recession. If this isn't handled well. Are you worried about something worse than a recession? What I'm worried about is we end up five or 10 or 20 years from now with a complete inability to make anything we need to survive as a nation.

Right now, we don't make our own medicines. We don't get our own rare earths. That's next. Pharmaceuticals are next. Exactly.

Fertilizer. We don't make most of our own fertilizer. A lot of our food we don't make. Steel, most of which we don't make. These are core strategic national goods.

And I would tell you: if let's say I had a farm, I owned a farm and I'm trying to be self-sufficient, but it turns out that I have to rely on everyone else around me, people who might actually hate me for all the things I need to run a farm, water, food, livestock, seed, fertilizer. I'm not going to last very long as a farmer. And what I think is much a bigger problem than, say, a short-term recession is us becoming eventually a vassal of the Chinese economy where we can't do anything without their permission. That to me is the worst case scenario, not a recession that's a couple months.

So the Trump style is: instead of sitting in a think tank coming up with a policy, Trump style is: hey, welcome to Monday. The world, the world, trade, our relationship with the world when it comes to trade has changed forever. 10% across the board. China gets 25%. Fentanyl is 10%.

in Mexico as well as Canada, and then when he had that on to China because you do the precursors.

So in traditional pol traditional politics, things happen gradually. There's an announcement, maybe work through Congress. That's not the way Trump works. What do you think will work?

Well, I think if you look at traditional politics, that's what we've had for the last fifty plus years. It's traditional politics that have allowed China to build up its war machine, that's allowed China to go after our friends to build up against Taiwan using the money that we've given them through our through our economy, excuse me.

So, I think the time now is for untraditional politics. I think that's what Trump's doing. You know, we were all alive during the first administration. We saw how the economy was, how strong it was. I'm willing to give the guy a little leeway because, again, 50, 60 years of politics as usual, that's what's gotten us in this position.

So, we need something different. No, I hear you. And the thing that emerged for me, and I'm a non-economist, you're the economic expert, you're an advisor for Governor Perry, and this is where you thrive. But for me, I need someone to tell me what they're doing. And the guy I I like to hear from is Scott Bessant.

I don't like hearing from Peter Navarro, and I feel like Mark Luttnick is going for ratings rather than accuracy.

So do you think behind the, you know what it's like behind closed doors with Trump? Um, your ex-boss was Energy Secretary. Do you think that, that message is brought over to Trump and saying, listen, step the other guys back. One voice, except for Trump, another voice is going to be Besant, nothing else. It's just too much at stake.

Oh, I think the messaging could absolutely be better on this because there's so many moving parts. There's a lot of different equities going on. There is the reindustrialization. There's fixing the trade deals so they're not rigged. There's refinancing $9 trillion of our debt, which we really can't afford to do at 5% or 6%.

So we'd like rates to go down in order to do that. That's actually one major reason why China keeps on dumping securities is they want to drive rates up because they know that's a pain point for us. I quite honestly don't understand what the Fed is actually doing, why they're not going and picking up the slack from all the treasuries that China's selling. They've had no problem doing that in the past. Can you tell me what that means?

What do you mean by picking up the slack what China's selling?

So, China's selling our bonds, trying to drive the rates up. All the Treasury Department, or not, excuse me, the Federal Reserve. Thank you for clarifying that. The Federal Reserve should go in and just buy those up, pick up the slack that's being created by China dumping bonds into the market. But I do wish we had kind of a unified message overall strategy coming from the president.

Look, the guy's better at marketing and selling and sales than anyone else in that administration. There's people there who are very good at what they do, but nobody does the sales and the communication like Trump.

So, I wish she would be more clear about the overall strategy because I think it would give people more confidence that there is a plan underlying all of this.

So, I want you to hear what Senator Kennedy said, kind of echoing what you said, CUD 17. I think I know what's in the President's heart, but I don't know what's in his head. The people you're talking about are right. The administration is not given. uh one clear rationale for its tariffs.

I think that's intentional. That I don't know, but my guess is it's intentional. and that and that it is part of the President's Negotiating strategy. But Jake, I don't want to feign understanding here. I don't know.

But that's my best guess, knowing how the President operates.

So I mean, if the Republicans in the Senate and someone like Kennedy, who is in a who a President likes a lot, doesn't know, you just got to think the communication could be better. Who could bridge that gap there? James Blair maybe, Deputy Chief of Staff? I think the only one who can do it is Trump himself. I mean, look, you need staff, you need advisors and cabinet people to go in and execute on your strategy, but nobody can sell stuff and explain stuff the way Trump can.

You and I could sit back and even try to come up with what we think Trump might say, and it's not what he would say. He's just better at this than everyone else.

So I think if he needs, if he believes he needs to come out at some point and say this is the strategy, he should do it. But, you know, to Kennedy's question there, he said, I don't think there's one clear rationale. He's actually right because there's not just one. You've got the interest rate issue with refinancing debt. You've got fixing trade deals, which were just bad.

Those need to get fixed on principle. You've got decoupling from China, and then you've got reindustrializing America. That's four kind of fairly complicated things right there. It's not something that's easy to just go in and explain and rationalize in a couple of sentences. I hear you.

And lastly, the big, beautiful bill. I mean, it's about over halfway there. From what you see, the framework I'm Both sides knowing they've got to bridge the gap. What do you think that's going to do to the economy? Because people fear it's going to add to the debt, but people know that it could also turbocharge this whole thing and bring up the revenue side.

So I worked in Congress as a staffer for a long time, and I will just say I don't have very much confidence in the willingness or desire of Congress to cut much of anything. It's why we've gotten to the point where we have $35, $40 trillion in debt. I think it's why Doge has been so important because Congress has just not expressed any desire to do what needs to be done on the cut side.

So I very much hope they all prove me wrong for being a cynic here. I personally don't have a lot of confidence that Congress itself has what it takes to go and actually fix our fiscal situation, which is a problem because Congress really is the only one with the authority to do it. What about the bill? From the makeup of the bill, continuing the tax cuts from 2017, adding things like tax on tips, manipulating salt a little bit, and taxes on Social Security, some of the other things that they want to bring up, spending up to a trillion dollars in defense. Your thoughts?

It's hard to say. You know, with these bills, especially this early in the process, we're in early April, it's like trying to pin Jello to a wall.

So the principles all sound fine to me. There needs to be way more cutting. We need to be looking at taking away from the debt, not just chipping away at the deficit.

So right now, I think the whole thing's a moving target. I want to wait to see what the actual final agreement is that comes out of a conference between the House and Senate before deciding whether it's good or bad. They've got a long way to go. They've got a lot of work to do. I'm leaning towards good.

I have a good feeling for the framework, and I sense that Congress knows if they don't find a way to get a deal done, they're going to lose both chambers in the midterms. Sean Davis, thanks so much. Thank you, sir. All right, 1866-408-7669. We talk about the college campus chaos.

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Sponsored by Previgen. Previgen made for your brain. Right, and speaking of brains, I gotta wonder what's left of those fearless space crew that went up in Blue Origin for three and a half minutes and came back down. The self-important people, for example, that our makeup of who do we have, Lauren Sanchez? You know this whole old female crew, you find it inspirational.

Katy Perry, too. There was another astronaut, a woman from the Bahamas. Right. And I think another. Literary person, a a civil rights activist or something of that sort.

All right, so they were out, they survived, and the and the way they came down and were talking as if they just basically went to Mars and back was astounding. And it actually didn't allude, uh, the ridiculous comments they had after did not elude Walter Kern, who was on with Megan Kelly. Just a few weeks ago, actual astronauts who got stranded in space for months, floating around in weightless condition, not in this, you know, luxury vehicle, were rescued by another rocket and brought back to Earth. And it hardly made a splash on the media. These people have already gotten 50 times the publicity that those heroes and the person who rescued them got.

Jeff Bezos basically put his girlfriend and her pals into a giant vibrator, shot them into orbit for 10 minutes, and they came back telling all about the thrill. We've got everything upside down. And if women get any more empowerment of this sort, they're going to be denied the right to vote.

So you would. That's pretty interesting. It does seem kind of stupid, doesn't it? It was just like it's a cool experience for them all to do with the way they made it out. This all female thing, it's historic.

Technically, I guess it is, but I mean. They're up there for Foreman's Hamp, but they're now one of 60 people who went on that trip. Um, you know, we're sort of off at the point where we're lucky enough to say it's semi-regular to be able to do that. Right? Yeah, I would think so.

It's going to be they want to improve the tourist travel. And if you have the money, go spend it. What's wrong with that?

Okay, it's another industry, another way to fuel the economy. No pun intended.

So, I want to talk about something else. Steve Witkoff, astoundingly, this would be enough for a Secretary of State, let alone a successful businessman. He's doing the Iranian. Deal to denuclearize. He's doing the peace between the Palestinians.

and the Israelis, Hamas and the Israelis, and he's doing Ukraine, Russia. None of which are really moving at great pace, but I'm not saying it's easy. I wonder, you know, and I don't really know Steve Witkoff, he's sincere, but does he really know the history?

So many people say, well, the Israelis are impossible to deal with. Betanyah was impossible. You know, you'll never have peace with him. He just wants to dominate the whole area and take Gaza back. None of which is true.

He's just very practical in the neighborhood he's in.

So let's harken back to the 1990s when Bill Clinton, the Democratic icon, was working with Yasser Arafat to do what Jimmy Carter started to do and bring some peace to the region, like with Egypt and Jordan was done. He wants to set up something with Yasser Arafat and the Palestinians. Here's Bill Clinton. And the only time Yasser Arafat didn't tell me the truth was when he promised me he was going to accept the peace deal that we had worked out, which would have given the Palestinians a state on 96% of the West Bank and 4% of Israel, and they got to choose. where the 4% of Israel was.

So they would have the effect of the same land of all the West Bank. They would have a capital in East Jerusalem. They would have, I can hardly talk about this. And they would have equal access. all day, every day, to the security towers that Israel maintained all through the West Bank up to the Golden House.

All this was offered, including, I will say it again, a capital in East Jerusalem and two. of the four quadrants. Of the old city of Jerusalem, confirmed by the Israeli Prime Minister Hud Barak and is cabinet. And they said no. And I think part of it is that Hamas did not care about a homeland for the Palestinians.

Do you think Steve Woodkov knows any of this? He should. Brian Kilmicho. It's just crazy. In that Witkoff is dealing with this here and now.

He's trying to get a deal. The deal that They walked away within the 90s, before Hamas even had the power and the firepower that they had to be able to pull off October 7th. They're not gonna get close to that offer. And if they walked away from the deal that Ehu Barakt handed over, which is a bad deal. Why does anybody think they're going to accept and just go away and have a mini Abraham Accords?

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