Trump ups the pressure, China retaliates

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Terms apply. From the Fox News Radio Studios in Midtown Manhattan, it's the fastest growing radio talk show. Brian Gilmead. All right, Harry Brady, welcome to the latest moments of the show. We're going to go inside the economic challenges that we have on this massive trade war within China, with Larry Kudlow, Michael Watley on the RNC of Fortunes now as they come off the special elections and look towards the off-year elections and also try to do the best they can to hold on to the House.

That'll be the key, obviously, for the success of the president's four years. How are they doing after their massive election win? We'll talk about that. Today, the president goes for a physical. We should get results.

He says he's looking forward to it. And at the same time, there's other things happening. For example, Uh we know. The Menendez brothers will return to court for a hearing on the LA County DA's motion to withdraw their resentencing petition.

So the country seems very interested in that trial.

So let's get to the big three. Number three. Regardless if Kamala decides to run for governor or if she decides to run for president, she is going to run. and she will end up becoming the Democratic nominee for president. Really?

I can't wait for that. And by the way, that'll be the best news ever for Republicans looking for a leader. Kamala raised her hand and Waltz can't stop talking. Should the Dems go back to the future? As the truth about Joe Biden's past is finally emerging, we discuss the path the left seems to be taking.

Number two. Ever since Trump took office that, you know, God help these sanctuary cities because Pam Bonnie's gonna be all over them suing them. President Trump's gonna take their federal funding away.

Now we got Lena Hobbit taking on New Jersey. Sanctuary cities are sanctuaries for criminals. It's true. Immigration fight is accelerating on every level as we try to rid the American college campuses of foreign bad actors, fight Blue Cities, sanctuary policies, and the courts who will try to go to bat for the illegals. We have it all.

Number Well, I think it's very close, but you know, we have to have a deal that we like. We don't want a deal that's going to be a bad deal, or I could make every deal in one day if I wanted to. And that is the President of the United States. The news this morning came out since he made those statements that China has upped the tariff fee to 125% and they're going after certain companies, upping the pressure. China and the U.S.

are going tiff for tariff, but who is holding the stronger hand?

Well, I say it's Trump, but we all have to show we have steel in our spine to help him win. Let's bring in RNC Chair Michael Watley. Michael, welcome back. It's good to be on with you, sir.

So, Michael, since this whole Liberation Day happened, April 7th, the President's approval rating has suffered. What does that tell you?

Well, I think right now that we are negotiating, we are working. The President is doing everything he can to move forward with an America-first trade agenda. You know, he has been saying since he came down the golden escalator in Trump Tower in 2015 that he needs that America needs to reset our trade relationships with the entire world, and the entire world is going to have to treat America fairly. That's what he's working on right now. And we've seen over the course of the last two weeks that every single country is coming to the table except for China, and that those are the discussions that we need to have to reset the World Trade Order and make it fair for America.

Listen to what Senator Elizabeth Warren had to say, Cut 12. The numbers is just creating economic chaos. And when there's economic chaos, no one wants to make investments in the United States to build more manufacturing, to build more good jobs here in America. Your thoughts? As usual, Elizabeth Warren is wrong on every single point.

What we have seen in terms of the economic recovery since President Trump won his election is that grocery prices have come down, inflation has come down, gasoline prices have come down. There's absolutely no economic chaos taking place whatsoever right now. We've had some volatility in the markets, but those are short term, and the stock market does not equate to the economy. The fact is, we have seen trillions upon trillions of dollars in new investment that is coming to the United States. Over $5 trillion worth of announcements have been made by companies that are building new manufacturing or even moving manufacturing from offshore onto the United States right now.

So the President's plan is absolutely working. And you have to look at tariffs as not just in a vacuum, you have to look at it as part of his overall plan to rebuild our manufacturing capacity here. in the United States, and that means that we've got to have a tax structure that's going to be able to work for them, and we're working on that through Congress right now. It means you need regulatory relief, and we are seeing the departments and agencies all across the administration who are moving forward on a regulatory relief agenda. And we need the tariff discussions that are taking place right now, where we've got over 70 different countries have reached out to the United States in order to renegotiate on their tariffs.

Yeah, so and we'll see. And we did have the trade rep Jameson. Jameson was on this morning, and he did say, Jameson Greer, that he's got calls today with Taiwan as well as Israel to start doing maybe some of the easier ones and get that done. I want to talk about what we're hearing now with the Big Beautiful Bill. Thomas Massey, should you just give up on him ever voting with Republicans if it has anything to do with spending?

Certainly disappointing that he has been voting against the President and, frankly, against the American people's interests on these bills as we've been moving forward. Obviously, hope springs eternal, and we hope that at some point he will see that what we are doing is trying to advance the agenda that he says he supports. Look, the fact is, this is not just Donald Trump's agenda. It's the Republican agenda, and it's an American agenda that we need to move forward with rebuilding our economy, restoring our southern border and making sure that America is strong enough to protect our interests and allies around the world. What did you take away from the special elections in Florida?

I think that two things. One, the Democrats spent over $20 million to lose both races by double digits. And it shows you that the Republican brand continues to be very, very strong. And Florida, you know, you've got to give that state a lot of credit. They have moved steadily to the right every single year.

And those were rock-solid wins for us. The other thing is, it took our majority in the House from three seats to five, which, given the narrow majorities that we've got and the narrow majorities that we're getting on these votes, absolutely critical to have both of those guys there.

So I think that that's a very good harbinger of where we're going into the midterm election cycle.

So Mike Lawler and Nancy Mace both might run for governors in their respective states. Those are tough, well, especially in Mike Lawler's situation. That's a tough one for Republicans to win. Will you encourage them not to?

Well, I think right now, we're going to wait and see kind of what those primaries look like and what those candidates look like. I have a lot of respect for Mike Lawler and Nancy Mace. Both of them have been working hand in glove with the leadership teams and with President Trump to move forward on his agenda. There's a lot more that you can do in these types of elections when you have forewarning, when you understand throughout the cycle, we have time to go through a primary process, we go through the election process, what that's going to ultimately look like. Uh we see that um Tim Waltz is out there doing a lot of appearances, and now Kamala Harris is looking for a comeback.

Your thoughts about both of them as candidates. Here's what Evan Parker said, a Democratic campaign operative of Cut 27. There's a segment of Democrats right now that are still behind Kambala because I think Democrats have this tendency to go along with whose turn is it next, right? They don't actually want the Democratic voters to pick their own candidates, as evidenced with Bernie in 2016 and 2020, and then again in 2024 when she was handed the candidacy on a silver platter.

So I think what will happen, and I'm making this prediction now, is that Regardless if Kamala decides to run for governor or if she decides to run for president, she is going to run. And she will end up becoming the Democratic nominee for president. What are your thoughts if Evan Barker is right?

Well, look, I mean both Kamala Harris and Tim Waltz were terrible messengers last cycle. They also were preaching a terrible message that was not received well by the American people. And if they are going to be candidates going forward, everything we're hearing in the last couple of weeks from both of them is that they are doubling down on the failed agenda. They're saying that we didn't advocate strongly enough, that we didn't have enough time to go out there. The fact is, the American people did not want what they were campaigning on.

The American people do not want open borders. They don't want inflationary spending. They do not want men and women's locker room and a woke ideology that was the cornerstone of their candidacy.

So if they're just going to go in and double down on those positions, which is what they're telling us over the last couple of weeks they're going to do, it's not going to work with the American people.

So, you know, candidly, as the RC chair, I would welcome either one of those at the top of the ticket.

So you'd be into that. Yeah, I think I would. Look, the fact is, the American people have made it very clear they want a strong America. They want us to have strong borders. They want us to have a strong economy.

And they want us to have a strong standing around the world. And that is absolutely 180 degrees from where Tim Waltz and Kamala Harris were running last cycle. You get worried about the size of the crowds that Bernie Sanders and AOC are getting. I don't. I think that there clearly are a lot of folks that they're paying, that they're moving around, that are going to be interested in showing up at those rallies.

But the fact is the American people voted and they voted in every single battleground state, and they voted in the popular vote for President Trump because they want America to move in a totally different direction. He is Michael Watley's got his hands full. Michael, right now, do you think it's harder to help get President Trump elected, or is it going to be harder to keep the House?

Well, right now, I think that the House majority of five seats is something that we're going to be working on every single day throughout the course of this midterm cycle. We need to expand that majority. And President Trump is a singular political force in America. And he worked every single day around the principles of his campaign, which were to rebuild the economy and restore the border and make America strong again. That worked very hard.

What we're going to have to do is win these midterm elections without him on the ticket, which means that we've got to turn Trump voters into Republican voters. And in order to do that, Congress is going to have to do its work and pass this reconciliation bill. They're going to have to pass the big beautiful bill, extend the Trump tax credits, make sure that we have no tax on tips, no tax on overtime, no tax on Social Security, and that we have permanent solutions for border security and American energy. And when they get that done, we're going to feel Feel very good about what's going to happen with our economy, what's going to happen around the world, and we're going to be in a strong position going into the middle. Is there something big after the big, beautiful bill, which they say should pass this summer if it's going to pass?

Well, it absolutely needs to pass. And then we're going to look at other parts of the agenda that we're going to move forward. What we learned when we switched from President Trump to Joe Biden was that through executive orders, they can be wiped out. And so, despite the fact that we had America on a very strong standing in 2020 around the world and with the southern border, and our economy was recovering, Joe Biden wiped all of that out with a stroke of a pen. We want to get legislation in place to make sure that this agenda is going to be put in place permanently.

All right. Thanks so much, Michael. Have a great weekend. Yes, sir. Thank you, Brian.

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So we got up to the news that China has upped their tariffs to 125%. We're at 145%. They have also. Selling American debt, and they're also doing this. They are They have targeted companies, 12 U.S.

firms, to export control, restricting what they can ship out of China, and adding six defense tech aviation firms to the so-called unreliable entity list.

So they think they have a game plan. They think they have a toolkit, setting up blacklists and other things. We'll see where that goes because. Uh because I'm not sure that China's got as strong as hand as you would think. I know they want to act tough, but when we come back, why they're really not that tough.

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And part of this means opening up their export markets. As we all know, there have been so many barriers to U.S. products in foreign markets for many years, whether it's tariffs or non-tariff barriers or other things like that. And so as we're meeting with these countries every day, We're talking about ways where we can have more U.S. exports and give and give our producers alternative markets to China in addition to China.

So that was Jamison Greer. Joined us on Fox and Friends today talking about the upgrade of tarrats and just say it's unfortunate. It's unfortunate that China decided to do this. Other countries decided not to retaliate outside Canada, but no one's paying attention to them. But now it looks like the President Qi is now going to take a tour of Southeast Asia, and I think he's trying to secure their relationships, but they have no trust in China.

China's been bullying them forever. And we've done a pretty good job recruiting those countries in the area, the region, Cambodia, Vietnam, of course, South Korea, of course, Australia, right there in the region, formed an alliance there. The Philippines has been constantly harassed. But Vietnam is one of the countries that we are already dealing with. And that's what Jamison Greer said.

I asked him before the segment: is there any news you could do? He goes, yeah, can give us through this segment. He said, yeah, and here it is, cut seven. I'm going to be speaking with my counterpart in Israel. Over the last two days, I had a long discussion with the Vietnamese.

We're speaking with the Taiwanese later today as well. I have a full dance card. Yeah, I mean, they got to start cutting deals. They got about 70 potential deals. And being that they don't really have to be that detailed, there's a structure there, and they're not looking to tear up all of them.

Everyone has different challenges. But I think Vietnam, in particular, more people I know who are in the clothing business say that we've reprogrammed to Vietnam. We've reprogrammed to India to try to get our electronics out of China.

So don't hit India and don't hit Vietnam, obviously. I would think.

Now, the other question is: how much is it going to cost you? You know, we saw. The Amazon executive came out and say almost all our products are going to go up. And now Amazon now has this little thing at the bottom and says what the tariffs are costing you.

So that is a little bit theatrical, but I think it's d designed so people realize it's going to be a cost. But they say on average, it could be about $3,000 or $4,000 that the average family pays. I asked Jamison Greer about that, cut nine. They say it's going to cost the American household $4,800. What do you say to those households?

First of all, I would say with respect to those projections, a lot of those are Wall Street analysts who have a lot to lose themselves. In the first term, we put a lot of tariffs on China, and we saw similar predictions. Those ended up being wrong. Inflation went down. I think the economic fundamentals of our country are still very, very good.

And while there may be an adjustment, I think we're going to be on a good path. And I don't think we're going to see that level of increase in household expenses.

So that's the pushback. The CEO Andy Jassy is the Amazon executives I was talking about. He warned Americans, you, that cheap prices on everyday goods could be a thing of the past. He was on another network when he said it's early right now, but we haven't seen any change in consumer behavior, but there is an increase in prices.

Now, it's estimated maybe three-quarters of the things that we're buying on Amazon are from China.

So maybe they should buy less from China, and maybe Amazon should be policing their own website to find out what's a knockoff of an American product, just because we can't bring it to a court. If there's a petition, for example, LifeVac, our great sponsor, Arthur Lee comes out and says within a year of them coming up with LifeVac, he made it in his garage, saving thousands of lives. They put off a bad version of LIFAC and they think they're getting the real thing. And he says to me, it happens all over, especially Amazon.

So maybe guys Enough with the Chinese products and protect some American IP if the courts won't. Larry Kudlow's next, so I'll talk more about that and the bigger picture on the economy. The more you listen, the more you'll know. It's Brian Kilmead. I'm pretty frustrated as an investor because the classic situation for small business and entrepreneurial investing is.

You find a product of service in America, you prove it in the American market to a run rate of $5 million a year on Amazon. and bang, it's ripped off in China. There's nothing you can do. You can't go appeal to WTO. It's deaf ears there.

You can't litigate because we don't have access to their courts. even though they have access to ours. Not only that, They have access to our capital markets. We let them list companies here.

So I have to compete with a Chinese company. that is not compliant with GAAP. that completely ignore the regulator, raise money when I have to compete on a basis where I have to be compliant, spend millions of dollars in compliance and make sure that the SEC and all the other regulatory bodies are okay with my issuance. But not the Chinese. Obviously, that's Kevin O'Leary.

He is fed up. He's got multiple companies dealing with China all the time. He is for upping the tariffs to 400% to change this relationship.

Now, I don't know if that's practical. Larry Kudlow, I'm not sure how into tariffs you were when you were in your days at CNBC, but now you understand that presidents use a tactic, and you have a four-year, when you were there, four years to look at how successful he's been and where this is heading. Larry Kudlow, host of Kudlow on FBN at 4 o'clock and former assistant to President Trump, joins us now. Larry, welcome back. Thanks, Seb Brian.

You know I was part of the negotiating team with China. in twenty eighteen and twenty nineteen. where we tried to hammer out a deal. on purchases of commodities. And stopping intellectual property theft.

stopping the forced transfer of technology. and allowing American companies to do business in China. Companies that owned, that they Americans owned, you know, that the board was better than fifty percent. And we came up with the phase so-called phase one trade deal. signed it with much ballyhoo.

In January, of twenty twenty So the virus had already started. and the Chinese were covering that up. But I want to say that They did not adhere to any part of that phase one trade deal. We never got the commodities. They're still stealing intellectual property.

They're still forcing technology transfers. In most cases, they don't allow American companies to own themselves, et cetera, et cetera.

So I don't, you know. You've got China is run by Xi Jin Ting. Uh friends of mine. who have good contacts and do a lot of business in China. visiting there and coming back telling me Yeah.

She has made himself so powerful He's virtually an emperor. It's a communist state, yes, but it's worse than that. He's made himself an emperor. Uh he's knocking off his opponents. And it's That's why anyone who expects real changes from China is, I think, at this stage, just wrong.

And I think Trump is exactly right to slam them. And think of it this way. You've got what it's 145% tariff now on China. Yep. Basically, we are their customer, okay?

Their model is very simple. Government subsidies produce cheap goods. Uh at low wages and they sell them to the United States. This tariff will take away China's biggest customer, that is to say, us. And it will do enormous damage to a Chinese economy that is already.

Nearly imploding because of a long-term real estate bubble.

So Xi Jinping has made enormous mistakes with retaliation. Trump has out-boxed him. And one other point, Brian, Kilmeda, make. the countries around China. Are become American allies.

Okay, Vietnam, a communist country, wants to do business with us. Taiwan, South Korea. India, Malaysia, one after another, have deserted China and have come to the United States to do business.

So again, she has made a monumental mistake. Trevor Burrus, well, he's going right now, today, through Southeast Asia to try to shore up relationships with those countries. And there's a couple of things, Larry. Do you think when the President said, okay, Liberation Day, 10% tariffs across the country, is that beginning to get Our allies angry at us. No.

Yeah. It was a shock and awe announcement. All right. The numbers on those tariff charges We're way out of line, but leaving that aside, no, because look what's happened. Uh, you know, 75 or so countries.

have come to us, not to China. and they want to do business. And you know, now Scott Bessend. And Jameson Kirk. Jameson was on Fox and Friends and he talked about Vietnam, Taiwan, Israel.

Japan is going to be perhaps the first major deal. That might even be a template that Betson is working on. These countries want to do business with us. The European Union, which started out saying, oh, we're going to retaliate. No, they've now pulled back and they're talking about a zero-zero goods deal, which is insufficient because of their non-tariff barriers.

But the point is, Um In a sense, Trump's strategy worked. it worked because the US is the most powerful market the most powerful economy. And they have to do business with us. And you'll see a string Of deals. I mean, the sooner the better.

I'm hoping to get a deal soon. That'll change the attitude in the stock market, too, which is very bearish right now. But I think that can be changed with a deal. Very important. And Scott Desson has been put in as the lead guy, the Treasury Secretary.

He's a friend of mine. I pushed him hard for that position. Told Trump, no, no, no, not me. Go for Scott. Scott is going to be put some order into this, some diplomacy into this, and some strategy into this.

And I know I think they're on their way. I know the markets are roiling. I get that. The dollar is weak. Gold is strong.

Stocks are weak. I get all that. But I think you'll see A much better outlook once they start doing deals.

So, Larry Kudlow, our guest, obviously.

So, Charlie, so Larry, Charlie Gasparino was saying the bond market was the thing that forced Trump's hand. Is that right?

Well, I there was some congestion. In the bond market, but I wouldn't give it. All that I've talked to Charlie about it. He's a terribly smart guy, and he's a friend. The answer is yes, but.

the stock market was the biggest issue. And, you know, that'sn't Basically, I think Uh advised Trump. Uh to you know, take a more positive outlook on negotiations. That happened last Sunday. And Trump put Besson in charge of the whole thing.

So, and remember, too. the strategy had to change because all these countries are coming to us. The phone was ringing off the hook. And we can't be going out bashing all these countries because they want to do business with us. They want to make a deal with us.

And so I think it was a combination of all those.

So a couple of things. China has targeted 12 U.S. firms to an export control list this week, restricting what they can ship to China. They've also honed their toolkit in looking at an antitrust investigation into chemicals giant, chemical giant DuPont. They are also looking at probes into blue-chip American companies like Google and NVIDIA.

So this is all aggression.

So we could start delisting all of their companies. Do you think that would be a problem? Getting them off our list? Was this way to get them out of our stock exchange? I'd love to see it.

Honestly, I'd love to see it. In Trump's first term, Robert O'Brien, the NASA Security Advisor and I Got a weed delisted. Uh all Chinese companies from the federal thrift savings plan. Which is a very big deal. It's a huge savings plan.

And we took those companies out. And by the way, the clip you played. From Kevin, they don't abide by our accounting standards anyway.

So you don't even know what you're buying. But we took them out of the SIRF savings plan. If you want to delist them from our stock markets, I am all for it. Absolutely. They shouldn't be here in the first place.

And so we'll see what's going to happen on these trade deals. A couple of other things. Number one, When it comes to Amazon. Their CEO made a lot of news yesterday and said, we're going to notice, the customers are going to notice all prices are going up. All right, call me naive, but Amazon has two-thirds of their products are from China.

I mean, why don't they have a responsibility at some point to understand the companies in the countries they're working with? Because a lot of those products are knockoff of American products.

So they just list them to make money. Maybe they should be a little bit responsible. Yes. you're right. They're going to have to change their business plan.

one way or another, they're going to have to change their business plan. They should have done it years ago, okay? They should have done it years. Tim Cook has been working for years to change the Apple business plan. Amazon's got to do exactly the same thing because it's going to be hard to sell these goods with 125% tariff, at least at wholesale.

They're going to get clobbered if they bring them back here to the U.S.

So they're going to have to change their business model.

So I want you to hear this. Isaac Larion was the MDA Entertainment CEO. By the way, they're starting to restrict our movies there. And said this on Fox Business, your favorite network, Cut 15. My head is spinning because uh Every day there is a new tariff.

There was zero tariffs on toys before this. And now it's 145%. And to be honest with you, I blame a guy named Peter Novera. He is My nickname for him is an economic terrorist. He's no different than the Islamic regime in Iran that says death to America.

He wrote a book called Death to China 20 years ago. He has zero experience. In manufacturing. You know the inner workings there. Scott Bessett has been pushed up and made a lot of people in Wall Street feel better.

You've worked with Peter. I mean, do you feel as though he's in the right position to help Donald Trump? Look, Peter's very aggressive. He's he's a hardliner.

Okay, no question about it. I don't think he's been effective, but nonetheless, to call him a terrorist is just crazy because he's basically following Trump's orders. Peter lacks some flexibility, but I'm not here to bash Peter Navarro. The point is, A lot of American companies are going to have to change their business model. They're going to have to change their supply chain models.

It does cause a certain amount of turbulence, but it can be done. And here's another thing. These Asian countries, Brian, just take Vietnam again. I think it's the most extraordinary story with our history with Vietnam, which is in some ways it's a tragic history. But now the Communist government wants to be an ally.

They hate China, okay, and they want to do business with us. Vietnam can make these products. It's not China. Trans shipping, it's Vietnam factories open making these products. The same thing is true in Malaysia, for example, and Cambodia.

It was a little smaller, but still, Vietnam's the biggest of that group. The same thing is true in India. We will be changing supply chains. uh supply chains with these and go and do business with these other Asian countries. We don't need China.

Their factories in Vietnam and so forth are producing. They're producing all kinds of goods. And we'll work out tariff differences and we'll work out regulatory differences. And there's no reason why the business can't move to them. I just want to give you these stats and tell me if they hold up.

One economist over at Cornell says: 75% of our smartphones, 78% of our laptops, 87% of our video game consoles, 77% of our toys are made in China. If those numbers hold up, man, we're going to feel this, Larry. Do you agree with those numbers? I don't know the numbers specifically. But I know that You know, things like iPhones and yes, a lot of that's coming out of China.

It won't be all that hard. It may take six to twelve months, but again, those supply chains can be completely changed and move away from China. This stuff's not hard to make. It's just, you know, it's not like it's high class advanced technology. You're talking about commodities basically that could be knocked off almost anywhere, and that's what's going to happen.

So I agree. Look, the numbers here. People talking about a recession in the United States.

So I did back of the envelope. The first uh uh charge tariff the reciprocal tariff charge. came to about seven hundred billion. It was based on a very bad formula. It had way too high tariffs, but that was the first number.

That's over two percent of our GDP. GDP in this country is about twenty eight trillion. seven hundred billion is a little over two percent. That's the problem. That'd be a problem because it'd be like a gigantic zap site.

However, Now that Trump has put his negotiating hat on, the art of the deal hat. You're never going to see those tariffs. They just won't happen. My best guess right now is the 10% baseline tariff is probably the best numbers to work off. That's about 300 billion.

That's about 1% of GDP. We can take that hit. Consumers may have much less than that because the tariffs are put wholesale. And as it moves to retail, usually chops off a quarter or a half. But whatever the details may be, think of it this way.

The tax cuts. That are working through Congress, and you know, the House passed this budget resolution, very important. Those tax cuts, not only the extension, but the new ones like tax-free overtime days. Those are about five trillion dollars of stimulus, Brian. And then your deregulatory program is worth about $1.5 trillion.

So you got a lot of economists with what I call single-entry bookkeeping. They're only obsessed with the tariffs. They forget about the tax cuts. By the way, you see oil is coming down substantially. Gasoline at the pump retail is going to be much lower.

The wholesale price index, the PPI, fell. The CPI sells in March. In other words, the story is complicated, okay? I get that, but I think in the macro sense, it's not going to be near as bad and it's going to wind up being very good and productive. And Larry Kudlow has just showed everyone why he's got the number one show in business television.

He's going to be at 4 o'clock today. Larry, thanks so much. Our audience, thanks you as well. Have a great show. Anytime, Brian.

Thank you. Back in a moment. You're with Brian Kilmead. If you're interested in it, Brian's talking about it. You're with Brian Kilmead.

Now, look, I'll first tell you, Jake, I'm out here doing what I can do. I don't know if I'm the best spokesperson to do it after just losing an election. But what I know is the public, and you saw it across the country this weekend, they're rising up and asking their leadership to do something. Look, when I criticize, I'm criticizing myself. I own this.

I'm part of the ticket. And somebody has to come up with a strategy. Right, that is Tim Waltz, who talks in circles, says he's a knucklehead, and says a lot of times he says stupid things. He's a fantastic spokesperson. He's out there speaking, Kamala Harris, big story in the New York Times yesterday, how she's contemplating how and what way to come back.

And Tim Waltz is just a clown in that, you know, he seems to be somewhat honest, was booed yesterday in the statehouse, and he says he might run for governor again. People of Minnesota, wake up. I mean, Trump always thought he could win Minnesota, especially the first time. He thought he was a visit away. But Tim Waltz, really?

Are you that left-wing, Tim Waltz? This guy is an absolute clown, and he's not competent. The other thing is, can you believe he's only 61 years old? He looks about 80. And lastly, his message is: let's stay with DEI.

Let's stay with green energy. Let's just message it better. And by the way, vilify Elon Musk. I'm a knucklehead at times. From high atop Fox News headquarters in New York City.

Always seeking solutions, never sowing division. It's Brian Kelmead. Wow, it's going to be a big hour. What a week we've had, right? General Rob Spaulding is going to be with us soon.

He is a retired officer, U.S. Air Force. We got to talk about what the stakes are on Saturday's meeting in Iran, in Oman with Iran. We'll talk about that as well as the kind of progress we're making, if at all. And I think we are taking out the Houthi rebels.

So we'll talk about that too. And of course, the president today, it shouldn't be dramatic, but he's going to have his physical. People had to have a lot of fun on the other stations in past years because Trump prides himself on not eating great. He was a little overweight. I don't think people are saying that now.

I think he looks better than ever. Can't wait to see that clean bill of health. I hope he gets.

So let's get to the big three. Number three. Regardless if Kamala decides to run for governor or if she decides to run for president, she is going to run and she will end up becoming the Democratic nominee for president. That is Evan Barker, a Democratic strategist, looking for a leader. Kamala Harris raises her hand, and Waltz won't stop talking about it.

Let's go back to the future. That seems to be the push now. Go back to Kamala Harris.

Meanwhile, we have huge questions about President Biden's past. They are all emerging in best-selling books. Number two. Ever since Trump took office, that, you know, God help these sanctuary cities because Pam Bonnie is going to be all over them suing them. President Trump's going to take their federal funding away.

Now we got Lena Hobbit taking on New Jersey. Sanctuary cities are sanctuaries for criminals. Yep, and it's about time they paid the price, like withholding funds, immigration fight accelerating. On almost every level, we try to rid the American college campuses of foreign bad actors, fight Blue City sanctuary policies, and the courts. We'll discuss that.

Number one.

Well, I think it's very close, but you know, we have to have a deal that we like. We we don't want a deal that's going to be a bad deal or I could I could make every deal in one day if I wanted to. That is true. Upping the pressure. China and the U.S.

are going tiff for tariff, but who is holding the stronger hand?

Well, I say it's Trump, but we have to show we have the steel in our spines too as a country. And we'll discuss that. And one of the things is: you know, you look at iPhones. You look at Xbox, you look at video game consoles. almost so much of electronics are all assembled in China, and they're all going to come back with tariffs.

And is this going to accelerate the manufacturing elsewhere or back at home? We'll discuss that as well as the targeting of certain companies in America, which once and for all might force some of these companies to leave China, I hope. Ian Pryor joins us now to talk about the other big story, and that's immigration and education. But Ian is author of Parents of the World Unite, Senior Advisor at American First Legal, Executive Director of The Fight for Schools. Ian, welcome back.

Thanks for having me, Brian. Ian, if I can tap into your other knowledge, and that is just a little bit from schools for a second, and that is what Khalil, Mahmoud Khalil, is going to be in a courtroom today, at which time the State Department's got to present their information about his background and why his organization's Might be in violation of his green card status that might link right back to Hamas. How much information do you think the State Department has, and how much do they need to present?

Well, yeah, I mean, I think if they're bringing this case, certainly they have the goods in order to get there in court and hopefully succeed. As for what they need, you know, look, there's a big question here, and you see a lot of it from the left, where they talk about the First Amendment, and this individual's First Amendment rights are being trampled upon.

Well, no, you really need to understand that. The First Amendment does not give you carte blanche to engage in conduct and activities that may be threatening or intimidating, etcetera. Because if the First Amendment was carte blanche to, say, engage in a conspiracy, then we would never be able to Prosecute conspiracy, right?

So, there's an exception to the general law with respect to the First Amendment that speech, which is integral to the commission of a crime, is not protected by the First Amendment.

So, that's one of the interesting things I see about sort of this case, where the pushback is based on the first look: if this individual is tied to Hamas, if he is conspiring with Hamas for whatever reason to intimidate, to harass, whether it's students on campus or in any other walk of life, then that is criminal.

So, you know, it is important to find out what the associations are because that will ultimately help establish that this is not somebody who is just engaging in speech. This is someone who is engaging in conduct, and that speech is a method to perpetrate illegal conduct. I mean, he was doing the negotiations in the Columbia last year for the students. He was pushing to divest from Israel. How much does it matter?

Hey, I'm pulling for the Palestinians over Israelis. How much do you have to prove that he was with the terror? The Hamas, the terrorists, as opposed to somebody that would be on the side of Ukraine and Russia. Do you follow me? Yeah, well, you know, you're going to have to be able to you're able to establish a link so that you have this material support, right?

And we've seen these kind of cases throughout, you know, throughout certainly the last Trump administration when I was at DOJ. You know, how does he cross the line? It may be, you know, that he's that he's advocating for the Palestinians, or is what he is doing really providing support for Hamas and what is going on in Israel? And we're talking about divestment. You know, that's another thing that is geared towards.

Really, harming Israel and harming that region.

So I think that it's going to be interesting to see just what they have and the elements of proof that they're going to be able to meet with it. Just so you know, a two-page memo was released by the State Department ahead of the hearing revealing that they're hoping to deport Khalil based on a rarely used immigration law that lets the Secretary of State remove anyone whose presence might be a threat to U.S. foreign policy. Participating in anti-Semitic protests, disruptive activities, which fosters a hostile environment for Jewish students, is what they're going with. I hope that's enough, because if it's enough, Ian, then we're going to get rid of these other ungrateful insurrectionists that we're allowing taking up American kids' spots in elite colleges.

Well, yeah, you know, and what's interesting is sort of this this link that from the immigration perspective where we're talking about the it was the Alien Act from the John Adams presidency, right?

Well, you know, that that had to do with what was going on in America with the French, right? And the French were coming in here and and creating all that we're trying to essentially drag the United States into war.

So we've seen this before, certainly, you know, 200 plus years ago. But that's what we're seeing here as well: is people using the United States to really engage in bad behavior. And in this case, with respect to issues overseas, right? And to try and recruit people, whether it's not recruit people necessarily to go over there and fight, but certainly emotionally and condition people and sort of get them on the side of the terrorists, which is what we're seeing here. And that kind of thing destabilizes our foreign policy.

So I want to bring you to something else.

So this MS-13 guy, that's what a judge said in 2019, living in Maryland, was put on a plane and shipped to El Salvador. And they say, well, you know, he shouldn't have been shipped to El Salvador. The Justice Department said, you know, we made a mistake there. But this guy was told by what was thought to be by a judge in 2019, linked with MS-13.

Now, whether he became a state's witness against MS-13 and therefore made him like almost if you turn on the mob, somebody who's threat who's. whose security is going to be threatened. I understand it. His name is Kilmar Orbrego Garcia.

So now it seems the ruling came out that a U. S. judge ordered that they the government has to try to facilitate him coming back here. What are your thoughts on this? Yeah, I you know Yeah, the Supreme Court ordered it and it's a little Digested the decision.

But my understanding is it's not as clear-cut as you need to bring him back, right? It goes back down to the lower court to understand what effectuate means, right? And I think that's sort of the question: does the United States have to go and formally force him to come back, or is it they have to negotiate or make any attempts to do so? You know, it's a little bit confusing from the district court's order, and I think that's what the Supreme Court is getting at. I mean, I do think the upshot is they're saying, yeah, you know, you have to figure out a way to potentially see if there's a method to bring him back because he didn't get whatever process he was due under the statute.

But it's a little unclear, and I think it's going to have to go back down to the district court for more proceedings and hearings as to what exactly the court expects the administration to do. It was weird. I mean, I have so many different interpretations of what they said. And it was Saramoyor and Justice Kagan said, I would have declined to intervene in the litigation and denied the application in full. Nevertheless, I agree with the court's order that the proper remedy is to provide Garcia with all the process to which he would have been entitled to had he not been unlawfully removed to El Salvador.

Now, the question is to a bigger picture, Ian Pryor, is they now have ruled that you can deport these would-be. gangsters out of our country, got it. But they said they have to have their due process. They're here illegally. They've committed a crime that's been stated whether it's from ICE or from local law enforcement.

Are we going to put them in the same system as if Brian Kilmet and Ian Pryor had a crime? And that means they're going to wait for years to have their day in court, and that's going to cost us more money? And then we're going to get him a lawyer? I certainly hope not, and I certainly hope that to the extent there is a That's what we're looking at here. There's a difference between what happened with this this individual from Maryland versus some of the other individuals that have been deported, right, and sent to different countries.

With the difference being, well, all right, look, if we're saying that this was a mistake here, If that's sort of the dividing line, okay. But if we're saying that every single person that is either here illegally or has committed vicious crimes cannot be deported without some long due process, well, you know, I think that's That's obviously a problem.

So we're going to have to see where the courts come down on those sort of refined points. To what these rulings come out with.

So it's it's pretty extraordinary in that if we have to put them in our system and we have to provide an attorney for them, the question is for smart guys like you is do they get the same rights we have? They came into our country illegally, they're alleged to have made a crime, and now we got to give them all the processes. Who what criminal wouldn't want to come here? They got a much better shot. Not only if the right administration will never be arrested, now you got the wrong administration for criminals, but then you get your process, you get a free attorney.

What's better than this? Yeah, well, I think the difference being in this situation is the process is deemed by statute and administrative code as opposed to the Constitution, right? But that doesn't, depending on that statutory scheme, which of course is just like every other statutory scheme, convoluted, you know, thousands of pages long, like it could ultimately end up being the same sort of rights that we would have due to American citizens.

So, you know, when we talk about immigration law, I mean, what the president has done has been phenomenal. You know, because you go back to Biden and Kamala saying, well, we needed to pass this bill. We needed to pass this bill.

Well, I guess we didn't, certainly to make the border secure. But now we have to deal with sort of what's been going on in the interior. And that might be a little bit more complicated than securing the border.

So I think that's where we're going to have to start seeing some actual legislation that helps support the president's agenda to make sure that we're able to deal with part two, which is part one. Secure the border, part two, deal with what's here already because of the lack of the secure border that we've had for so many years. Tap into education for a second. About 19 different states do not want to comply with the administration's executive order to stop practicing DEI in your schools. They don't want to comply.

So the federal government wants to hold back money and they'll try to. And then, of course, these different cities and jurisdictions will sue back. How does this play out? I know what you want to see play out. I know you.

But how does it play out legally?

Well, that's what, yeah, I mean, that's exactly right. You're going to see these schools, whether it's DEI, whether it's, you know, boys and girls sports, they are going to push back, right? And what's going to happen is they're going to end up suing in, you know, pick your jurisdiction, Oregon, Washington, Colorado, right? A favorable jurisdiction and say that, you know, the government is breaching its contract. They get a good court ruling.

It goes up on appeal. It's going to have to go to the Supreme Court. And look, if it gets to the Supreme Court, I think the administration is absolutely going to win. I mean, this is the Harvard case. But what we've seen from these school districts is they are recalcitrant.

They are not going to do what is legal or they're going to keep doing what's illegal until there's a court order telling them specifically you can't do it. It's not enough for a Supreme Court ruling that covers it and covers it broadly and says you cannot do this. No, these school districts, they won't do anything until there's a court order telling them they have to do it. And it depends on the judges, and they're going to keep going up the line, and everything's going to end up at the Supreme Court. You know, well, it could, and it depends on where you go, right?

So there are some states where. You know, maybe you get a district court and you get a more liberal district judge, but then you pull a good panel on the federal court of appeals and the administration wins. You know, maybe you get a win at the appellate court, and maybe the school districts don't want to challenge it to the Supreme Court because that establishes nationwide precedent. Yeah, there's so much going on. And then the girls and women's sports.

Lastly, just I think it's Vermont, excuse me, Maine, where the governor stood up and said, hey, you know what? I don't care if a trans man goes against girls' sports, and the president famously sparred with her. But now the governor is going to have funds withheld until she complies. And how does that play out? Yeah, well, you know, I think that in those situations, they're going to have to make choices, right?

When we're talking about federal funds, you know, certainly that's higher education, but you also have it K-12. And you know what? A lot of those federal funds go to are schools in sort of poorer areas where they actually need federal funds.

So these places are going to have to ask themselves, is this the hill to die on, right? Are we going to take away opportunities? These are federal funds not just for sports, right? These are federal funds for everything.

So are we going to take away opportunities for other students? Because we want to have men competing in female athletics. Is that what they want to do? Because that is a 90-10, 80-20 issue in this country. And I think when push comes to shove, when those federal funds start drying up, and especially when you talk about higher education, right?

Because higher education, it gets even more interesting because federal funds. are student loans.

So, if you don't get federal funds, that means you get no student loans, all of that factors into it. And students you know, certain federal grants can't be used for those schools.

So there's a lot of pressure. It's just like lazy thought. I want rights for everybody.

Well, they don't understand that rights are being taken away in this situation because of that. And the big retort was, it rarely ever happens. Yeah, of course it but it keeps happening over and over again. And if you're a kid that gets steamrolled or robbed from a scholarship or place on a podium, despite their their talent and their dedication, I think it'll be a little bit too personal to avoid. Ian Pryor, thanks so much.

Thanks for having me.

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Bottom of the hour, we talk about the Oman meetings with Iran and how close they are to a nuclear weapon. I know you've heard of this before, but now with the facts we got this morning, don't move. Both sides, all opinions, it's Brian Killmead. Radio that makes you think. This is the Brian Kill Me Show.

I consider Congresswoman Ocasio-Cortez to be the leader of the Democratic Party. She's entitled to her opinion. I'm entitled to mine. As I've said about her before, I think she's the reason. There are directions on a shampoo bottle.

And our plan for dealing with her. You should plan that out. We got to hurry. Our plan for dealing with her is called Operation Let Her Speak. Good job, Eric.

I did not know that was out there. I missed all of it, but I saw most of the ones that Sean Hannery interviewed with six Republican senators talking about the whole trade war and what's next and the big, beautiful bill, and how to get it passed, and what the landscape is. out there right now. And that of course is The other speculation you always have is: well, who are we going against? What is the message of the Democratic Party?

And the people speaking all the time are Bernie Sanders, Tim Waltz, and AOC.

So, what else are you supposed to conclude? I mean, I remember the last time I heard from John Fetterman. I really don't. We talk about war and peace next. Breaking news, unique opinions.

Hear it all on the Brian Kill Me Show. What really worries me about Iran's nuclear program is that it's married up to a missile program.

So, if they got nuclear weapons, they wouldn't just be able to attack our friends in Israel or in the Arab world. They could strike the United States in just a matter of a few years, much like North Korea can now as well.

So, I don't think there's enough focus on the imminent threat that Iran's nuclear program poses, not just To our friends in the Middle East, but to the United States itself. And that is why time is not on their side, and it's not on our side either. We shouldn't let them rebuild their missile defense that Iran that Israel took out. We shouldn't let Hezbollah and Hamas have some time to rebuild in any way, shape, or form, even though Hamas is under tremendous pressure right now. And then we find out this report that says that Iran is basically capable in a month of building maybe eight nuclear weapons.

And there's been no limitation on their missile, their intercontinental missile. Progress and some of their and some of their Their intellectual ability that they've improved on, and that was not even in the last. agreement that Trump abrogated. Let's bring in General Rob Spalding. He's a U.S.

Air Force Brigadier. General. General, great to have you. Your thoughts about the stakes in Oman beginning Saturday?

Well, I mean, the whole region is you know, kind of waiting with bated breath to see how these Iranian negotiations are going to go. you know, quite frankly, I think the um The the forces that the US have arrayed Have the capacity to take out the nuclear industrial base that Iran has developed. And so. You know, I think one way or the other we're gonna get we're gonna get rid of the threat.

So they say from what they've put together now, they say in one month 10 weapons, in two months, 12 to 13 weapons, when they see their enrichment capability and what they believe they have the intellectual capacity to put together. And you know if we know this, you know Israel knows this, and Israel has got the objective. They've done it in the past. They've ignored us in the past, Reagan and Bush and taken out nuclear programs themselves in Iraq and Syria. Is there any reason to think that if these talks look like they're dragging on, they won't take action?

No, I mean, I would expect them to. You know, I'm surprised that we've allowed it to get as far as it has. you know, to get to the level of r enrichment that they have. Uh and to build You know, the as much infrastructure as they've built. I mean, the thing about nuclear weapons, they're not technically hard to build.

It just takes a massive, massive, massive industrial effort to enrich the uranium. And that is easy to, you know, to take out because all those centrifuges have to be in very controlled environments. And so, you know, I think the task of taking it out is not hard. And I wonder why we've let it go on so long. Yeah, no kidding.

We know this. Iran has got money because China is now buying 90% of their oil from China. Excuse me, uh from Iran.

So they've just said the hell with this, let's let everybody know it. We're just ignoring any type of sanctions. We're just going to go try to help sustain their economy, let alone with the money they get from Russia for the drones that they're getting to kind of shape the battlefield in Ukraine. No, that's absolutely true. And it's crazy because.

You know, it goes to it goes to show you how um You know, just unbalanced we are because it's not just what's going on in Iran. If you look at Um, Ukraine, for example, while we've been funding the Ukrainians, we've also been funding the Russians through China.

So, in a sense, we're doing the same thing: we're giving money to Israel, and then we're giving money to the Iranians through China. They always happen to be the place that both Russia and Iran and North Korea are getting their funding from because they've connected their economies together. What do you mean by how what role are we playing?

Well, we so every time you buy something from China, that's revenue that's going to China that can be then pushed to Russia. And so by creating this ecosystem and economic ties between Russia, Iran and North Korea, By virtue of being connected to the global trading system and being so interconnected with our economy, you know, that. That trade deficit that we have with China goes to fund these problems. You know, whether it be North Korea, Russia, or Iran. Here is what General Keene told me this morning about an hour ago, cut thirty eight.

Iran has become somewhat defenseless. No longer do they have Hezbollah and Hamas to the degree they did. They don't have Syria as their strategic platform. Their air defense systems have been destroyed by Israel. Much of their rockets and missiles destroyed by Israel as well.

And Iran has been deterred. They have not reattacked, even though they promised they would.

So they're in a very difficult situation, to say the least. And that brings up. The way they want to preserve their regime. The reason they've always wanted that weapon. is for that reason.

And now they need it more than ever.

So it's it we shouldn't be surprised. That they're moving closer to it.

So this is a this and he also looks at this as a window. window because this has been a forty year foe, and the whole region's been basically against Iran right now. And they lost their ally in Syria. They lost Hezbollah. They lost Hamas.

The Houthi rebels are left and they say they're the least controllable out of all of them, and we've hit them for sixteen straight days. No, I think that's right. It's the same reason the North Koreans have gone for nuclear weapons. It's the same reason, quite frankly, that Ukraine wishes they hadn't given up theirs. And so, no, I totally agree with what he said.

I would just say, add the one thing that without that financial support from the Chinese, you know, from buying their oil, you know, they would really be in trouble. Right, and we'll see what happens. The longer we wait, how soon do they form a formal alliance saying the attack on one is attack on all? And then we're going to be in a really tough situation.

So that's why this window is open. And the President said flat out: if these talks don't work out, military option is an option. If something like that would be to happen, what is more likely, us to do it or for Israel to do it with our weapons? No, I mean, I think it would be us. I think the forces arrayed without going into exactly how it's going to happen.

The forces that they have in the region are, you know. been training for this. And we do have another aircraft carrying the region. Do you think the whole region understands what that means? I definitely think they do.

You know, with all the talk on B2s on Diego Garcia, I think everybody's. Very clear-eyed about what's going to happen if we don't have good negotiations. General Spalding, I want you to hear this. This came out a testimony yesterday about what we're up against when it comes to China and where we're falling short. CUP 43.

And they are producing. uh fighters at a rate of one point two to one Over the United States.

Furthermore, their advanced air-to-air missile, long-range air-to-air missiles, also present a tremendous threat. The United States of America enjoys key advantages in space, counter space, Command and control between the Carmen line and the surface and undersea dominance. But that margin. is shrinking. And we must Regain the margin and increase the margin.

And that ability to fight and win is what will make sure that our adversaries do not execute any aggression to do so.

So those numbers are indisputable. And I don't know, is it possible for us to expand our industrial base to match it? I don't know that.

So, first of all, we have to expand our industrial base, period. What we did over the last 40 years was just absolute insanity. We have to bring back manufacturing. I hope it's to the tune of tens of thousands of facilities because that ends up being the forge that any war in the future is going to be supplied by. That being said, you know, the approach we took with the Soviet Union, I think, in the case of China is the right approach.

And that is massive retaliation from nuclear weapons is what's going to keep a war from happening. Because once a war happens, there is no way to tell when or if or how you prevent it from escalating to the nuclear level. And so what we have to do is be prepared for nuclear war and then use that as a means to prevent actual conflict between you know Russia China or the United States, or else we're looking at, you know. Potentially the end of mankind.

So we were looking at some of what was going on over Taiwan over the last few, I guess, years, but mostly over the last month or so about their invasion, some of the rehearsals. The Admiral was asked about this near Taiwan, Cut 44. IndoPaycom faces a confluence of challenges. China's unprecedented aggression and military modernization Poses a serious threat to the homeland, our allies, and our partners. In 2024, The People's Liberation Army demonstrated growing capabilities through persistent pressure operations, with military pressure against Taiwan increasing by 300 percent.

China's increasingly aggressive actions near Taiwan are not just exercises, they are rehearsals. And have we rehearsed how we'd respond?

Well, so I've been the red team because of all my time in China on these Title X war games, and I can tell you we don't win them. And quite frankly, to be honest, we won't even get forces to the region before the Chinese have control of Taiwan. That's just the truth. And the only way, in my opinion, to prevent war and prevent the Chinese from taking Taiwan would be to introduce nuclear weapons into Taiwan, which I doubt we're going to do.

So I've taken the position that Taiwan is going to go over to China at some point. It's just when they decide to do it. And I think the thing that we need to be concerned about is have we reestablished that industrial base that allows us to produce those things that are coming from China mainland and Taiwan that we're going to have access cut off to.

So really, you think it's a fait accompli, they're going to take it. Absolutely. We just we don't have enough time to get forces. By the time we would move forces in the region, they'll have it under control. What if we make Taiwan a porcupine that it's almost impossible to take because they're armed so much, with nuclear weapons aside?

So, you what you're talking about, I think, is putting American troops. Uh, back on Taiwan. Yeah, I think putting American troops and putting nuclear weapons on Taiwan and making uh China aware that you know an attack on Taiwan would be met with massive retaliation, like we did for Western Europe and the Soviet Union. Yeah, that would prevent war. All else, I think you're you're looking at war coming, it's just a matter of time.

Right now, that we do have their chips there, they have ordered a lot of weapons. Dude, should you know, when China sees the trouble Russia is having in Ukraine. Does that make them think twice? Um, no, not at all. I mean, the the uh The level of forces, and just Brian, the number of weapons that they've stockpiled on their side of the strait, they can make Taiwan look like the surface of the moon and only have used a fraction of the weapons that they've like they have been storing weapons on their side of the strait for the last 30 years.

And we've been spending all of our weapons, whether it's Iraq or Afghanistan or Ukraine. They have been storing them up, and they're just 100 miles off the coast.

So they're just going to let fly when they do. And quite frankly, they don't care about the people. They just care about the territory.

So, no, I think they have so much weaponry stacked up. It's just crazy. What about world isolation in response? They don't care. You know, the the Chinese don't care.

I mean, you know, they they've been planning for this. That's why they that's why she uh tore up the agreement that Lighthizer and Liu Ha Came to during the first year of the Trump administration. They're like, okay, we're not going to play that game. And so they've been preparing for these tariffs and decoupling and they're more self-deterred because of trade more than anything on Taiwan. But eventually, they're just going to say, and this might be the thing that these tariffs might be the straw that broke the camel's back in terms of just making them make the decision.

And then we'll have a huge decision to make. But according to you, General, it's going to be so quick, it's not even going to be a decision. Yes, it really is. I mean, I I think when you get into the numbers, And we know the numbers, they're just, oh my God, overwhelming. Wow.

General, thanks so much. Appreciate your expertise.

Well, you got it. I'm talking to you, Brian. Always great.

Meanwhile, all eyes are on Oman to see the other big challenge, and that is Iran. But I'm optimistic we're at least going to find some way to solve that four-decade-old problem. Back in a moment. Giving you everything you need to know. You're with Brian Kilmead.

The fastest three hours in radio. You're with Brian Kilmead, sponsored by Previgen. Previgin, made for your brain. President Obama absolutely did not think that Joe Biden should continue, according to our sources, close to President Obama. And he also didn't want Kamala Harris to be the replacement for Biden.

He didn't think that she was the best choice for Democrats. And he worked really behind the scenes for a long time to try to have a mini primary or an open convention or mini primary leading to an open convention. Did not have faith in her ability to win the election.

So as it turned out, she didn't win, but he was really working against her. Uh that is uh John Allen, he is one of the co-authors of a best-selling book about the inside the White House, inside what was happening inside the White House leading to Joe Biden's demise and Kamala Harris's failure. And that is true. We heard about the jungle primary. We heard about the convention that was supposed to pick a nominee, old school style, but it never happened.

Usually, or they were doing it in the 20th century for the vice president. That usually where the drama was, but there's no way that would have happened and would have been a different story.

Now, Kamala Harris is saying, If I had more than 100 days, I would have won. I needed more time. Marianne, you're listening on WOKV. What's on your mind? You keep talking not you, everybody, keeps talking about the fact that we can't get a business up in less than three years.

Well, we go up to North Carolina from Florida every year. And we go the back way. And I cannot tell you how many of these buildings are still standing. Milliken, where they did made cows and cheats and stuff. Huge industrial parks with empty buildings.

So I think if they look, They could find the structures and then they'd only have to go in and revamp them. For what they need.

So I think you could do it. Do you want me to put me in charge? But I think it could be done faster. I want you to hear what we heard on a podcast today. It's one of the smartest guys I know, Neil Ferguson, has a real perspective on this area.

Tell me if you agree, Cut 17. Every single economy that industrialized from the late 18th century through the 19th century into the 20th century reached a peak at some point along the way, roughly when per capita GDP reached $40,000, after which manufacturing as a share of employment declined. And the decline is essentially identical for all developed economies as people move out of working in factories and move in to service sector jobs, which are less physically demanding and require more education.

So that happened everywhere. It wasn't just in the United States. I grew up in Scotland, which industrialized before most countries. And Scotland de-industrialized well before the United States did.

So one has to recognize that the vision that Donald Trump has, the idea that you're going to somehow make the United States a major manufacturing economy. Economy again, in which there will be lots of jobs in factories, that is the equivalent of turning. turning time's arrow around.

So that's who people are saying. Saying we're so industrialized now, people don't want to do the jobs. I'm going to ask this weekend, I'm going to ask Mike Rowe that on One Nation Sunday at 10 o'clock. I'm going to ask the blue collar move. Is there enough people who want to put on the jean shirt and turn a ratchet and turn a wrench for a living?

From the Fox News Radio Studios in Midtown Manhattan, it's the fastest growing radio talk show. Brian. In Kill Mead. Hi, everyone. Welcome.

Brian Kilmey Joe here from one of the final hours of the week, which has been in Trump time a really busy week, even in Trump world. I mean, we're only about 80 days in, and the speed at which things are being done is stunning. I'll talk about that on One Nation Sunday at 10 o'clock. I think that China, for the most part, has been used to the fact that they think their big advantage is they plan long term, they have dictators, they don't have elections. And we our biggest disadvantage is we have four year terms.

And oftentimes, we elect people with total visions, total different visions on what America should look like and how we should approach our challenges economically and militarily. And they think the fact is we call it one step forward and two sets back is their big advantage. And maybe in some ways it is. But I think Trump has done something different, and I think the speed in which he is doing things even has China, who pride themselves on doing their profiles of leaders and knowing what they like and dislike. I think it's even caught them by surprise.

Early on, they made overtures to Trump. He was in no rush to talk to him. And then April 7th, when the tariffs started coming down, now this is coming a personal tit for tariff. And that's what we're looking at. Joining us now is Ambassador Kurt Vokel, former U.S.

Ambassador to NATO, Distinguished Fellow at the Center for European Policy. And, Ambassador, I'm definitely going to talk about Ukraine, but I just want to give you an idea of how the world thinks about the president's. Liberation Day and what led to this Lasting battle with China. First off, I think everyone is just taken aback at the scale and scope of the tariffs that were initially announced by President Trump. And they are very concerned that, that would throw not only the U.

S. economy, but the whole global economy into a recession. And so they have done, as President Trump has highlighted, they've all sent people or starting to send people to Washington to negotiate what do we do? How do we lower tariff barriers on our side? How do we eliminate these tariffs?

So it is creating quite a response. On the Chinese side, however, I have to say, I think the Chinese are looking at this and saying, we can outlast you on this. Your American consumers are going to face much higher prices because you buy so much from us. And we can absorb the lack of or the higher tariffs coming our way because these are basically state owned or state leveraged enterprises. They can absorb that.

So they are betting right now that they can outlast President Trump. We'll see.

Well, the problem is they have to have us as a consumer nation. Do you think America will start pivoting away from Chinese products? Um I think it's going to take time and with difficulty. I mean, the reason we're buying so many Chinese products is because they're cheap. And when you start to then raise the prices on the Chinese goods, you start looking around for what else there is, but everything else is going to be more expensive.

So, I know when it comes to laptops, when it comes to consoles, on video games, they, we. Do a whole lot of importing from them. In fact, the numbers are kind of stunning how much we do get from them. And I got them confirmed today. We get 73% of our smartphones, 78% of our laptop, 87% of video game consoles, 77% of toys come to the United States from China.

So all of them probably will go up in scope. And they say it's going to, according to Economists, it's going to cost the average household $4,800. Yeah, it's it's hard to calculate 'cause households will make their own choices. Like if you're gonna go buy a computer, uh maybe you're gonna wait right now and say, Okay, they're gonna be double the price. I'm not gonna do that.

Um I'll I'll see what else how long this goes on, maybe and maybe I'll put some household money into building something, renovation or something, and wait out on the computers. Here is what Jamison Greer told me this morning when he was on Fox and Friends. He is the U.S. trade representative who is tasked with really doing 70 deals. According to the Secretary of Treasury, 70 different nations say, let's come on and reconfigure our trade relationship.

Here's what he said about what I just said about the 4,800, cut nine. They say it's going to cost the American household $4,800. What do you say to those households? First of all, I would say with respect to those projections, a lot of those are Wall Street analysts who have a lot to lose themselves. In the first term, we put a lot of tariffs on China and we saw similar predictions.

Those ended up being wrong. Inflation went down. I think the economic fundamentals of our country are still very, very good. And while there may be an adjustment, I think we're going to be on a good path. And I don't think we're going to see that level of increase in household expenses.

I guess we're going to see the one thing they say on Amazon, two-thirds of which are Chinese products. They said oil prices are going to go up. I also ask Amazon, why is it that you have all Chinese products? Ambassador? Oh, that was a question to me.

Sorry about that. I thought you were going to play a clip. No, it's again, it's all price. It's all driven by price. They are cheaper.

China is making them, so that's where you go to get cheap stuff. You put a tariff on, it's going to double the price, you know, one hundred and some percent is going to be doubling the price of the good. Then elsewhere, people may have the opportunity to make it for less than what the Chinese goods are going to cost, but it's going to take some time to adjust. I mean, China's making this stuff right now. You want to go somewhere else and make them cheaply, whether it's in the U.

S. or say Latin America or something. You're going to have to take time to invest and build a plant and make sure that you can produce it. And in the meantime, households are going to either pay the higher price or just forego the purchase. Uh okay, so Today, excuse me, tomorrow in Oman, Iran and the U.S.

are going to meet direct, indirect, depending on who you talk to. Steve Witkoff against a counterpart. Here's what Senator Tom Cotton says at stake: Cut 36. What really worries me about Iran's nuclear program is that it's married up to a missile program.

So if they got nuclear weapons, they wouldn't just be able to attack our friends in Israel or in the Arab world. They could strike the United States in just a matter of a few years, much like North Korea can now as well.

So I don't think there's enough focus on the imminent threat that Iran's nuclear program poses, not just to our friends in the Middle East, but to the United States itself. Although I do think there's an urgency with the Trump administration, he said after he sent the letter last month, he got two months to answer. Yes, I agree with you, Brian. I think that President Trump is actually focused on this. He has talked about Iran a lot in the past.

He has threatened Iran with devastating consequences if they don't sit down at the table and negotiate and end their nuclear program.

So I think he's very serious about that. And I think sending Witkoff is just a way to say, look, we're willing to talk. There's a way out of this. But you have to give up nuclear weapons. And if not, you're going to face the consequences.

But they never have, and they never indicated they would. For a while, they even admitted they told us they didn't have them. They thought that was, we were going to buy that.

So there's a window here, I think. And do you think that they understand that they have very few options? I think that they think they can game us. They gamed the Obama administration, they gamed the Biden administration. I think they want to.

Say, oh, yes, yes, we're not going to develop a nuclear weapon. They're going to want to negotiate in great detail. They're going to want to do all of these things to see if we follow along and just get bogged down. And I think President Trump needs to be very direct, very clear, saying, this is it. You know, you stop, and then we can do business.

But until then, no. Yeah, it's interesting.

So we understand too with the Russia-Ukraine thing, they're also seem to be gaming the system. And it looks like Russia is saying, you know, accusing Ukraine of going after their energy sector, which they're not. They also have not agreed to shut off the Black Sea for any type of warfare.

So your thoughts about what Russia's objective is, it looks like they have no interest in an off-ramp unless you see something different. No, I think you're totally right. Putin actually feels very comfortable right now because he doesn't feel any pressure coming from the U. S. He unlike with Iran, where we've moved B two bombers into the Middle East as a demonstration of our willingness to use force and to push back, in the case of Russia, all we've done so far is offer them enticements.

We've talked about restoring bilateral relations, reopening embassies, lifting sanctions, doing business together. Putin looks at that and says, then, I have no reason to stop the war in Ukraine. I'm going to keep pressing on the ground and just keep dragging out any talks with the U.S. And as you said, they have done nothing to move on a ceasefire either at the Black Sea or against energy infrastructure. Russia, excuse me, Ukraine has come out of Zelensky and says, look, I need some American weapons, but we want to pay for them.

We want to pay for missile defense systems, maybe buy five separate ones, and maybe we could do this off the rare earth deal that we have in motion. Do you think the U.S. has the weapons to sell, and do you think we'll do it? We do. We are selling weapons to lots of other countries all over the world.

I think we could reprioritize a bit and make sure that Ukraine gets what it needs. I also think it would be very smart for the Congress to pass lent lease legislation again. They did this during the Biden administration, but the Biden administration insisted on appropriations to just give them the resources. But Ukraine can borrow from us Against this minerals deal, buy American weapons and American ammunition and defend itself against Russia. I think that's a good deal for everybody.

And I would think, too, that Trump, if he wanted to, say, look, Zelensky wants to keep fighting. I got him to go to a ceasefire. You are walking away from the ceasefire. We're going to give him the war weapons that he needs. That would certainly force their hand.

It would have the advantage of being true, for one. And also, it would send a signal to Putin that since he has demonstrated he's not willing to do a ceasefire, he's not willing to end the war, he keeps adding on demands. Every time you hear from Putin, there's another demand that he's making in these negotiations. I think it's exactly the signal that we need to send, that this is not going to get better for Putin over time. It's going to get worse.

Your thoughts about China and Russia, excuse me, China and the U.S. militarily matching up. Do you think China wants this fight? militarily? I don't think they do.

I don't think China really wants to fight. They would rather build their strength and play out a long game, and they're going to count on the U. S. not doing the same so that we get gradually weaker, we decrease our relationship or dependency on Taiwan and chips And I think they're counting that they can outlast us. This is why it's very important, I think, to do what President Trump is doing, which is focus on building American strength and capabilities right now.

We have to some catching up to do. Pete Hagseth is asking for a trillion dollars. I mean, we're already getting I mean, we already get, what, seven hundred fifty billion annually? Yeah, I think it's probably north of 800 now. But I think that we actually have to look seriously at that.

And with some of the savings that we're getting out of all these Doge cuts, If we get a couple hundred million dollars, I think putting that into American defense capability, I think that's smart. Ambassador Kurt Volcker, thanks so much. Thank you. Take care, Brad. You got it.

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Bottom of the hour, I talked to Frank Blackcloud. Who is Frank? Frank is somebody from Vice President of the Native American Guardians Association. Over in New York and pro possibly in your town, they're making all these schools take down their Indian references as their mascot, their nickname. Costing millions of thousands of dollars.

So the question is, millions of dollars, I should say. The question is, What about the American Indian? How do they feel? They want to be honored respectfully. They want to be chiefs and Indians and warriors and braves.

Yes, even Indians. We're going to talk to him about that because there's a huge battle here in New York to get warriors and chiefs off the nicknames and I guess do something generic like tigers.

So, forgetting Native Americans, is that the best way to honor Native Americans? Back in a moment. The talk show that's getting you talking. You're with Brian Kilmead. This is a dangerous slope.

And we are taking a stand on behalf of Ahmoud, and he is taking a stand. decided to stay in jail and fight this case to the bitter end.

Well we Try to establish. that people like McMood. have a constitutional right. to speak out in this country. And they should not be The government should not be using this really bogus statute saying it's against U.S.

foreign policy interests.

So that's the lawyer for Makhmu Khalil, who has been in a holding tank in Louisiana after being scooped up out of the streets of New York for his anti-Semitic ways, anti-Israel ways, and for leading what many people think is an organized effort for anti-Semitism on the campus. And they believe there are ties right back to groups that Hamas is supporting and praising.

So they are praising them as people. And he was also praised by the Iranian foreign minister, this group in New York that Mahmoud Khalil is a part of. In fact, the lawyer for some of the hostage families is suing Khalil and a lot of these groups in Colombia. But the question is: is this a solid case enough to get this guy deported? Because he did have a green card when he was picked up off the streets.

Now, the Secretary of State. His got upset guys like Jonathan Turley says the case looks not as strong as it could be because of the case that they're using and the statute that they're using. He says an immigration judge is set to decide this case today on Mahmoud Khalil, whether they could throw him out. And a two-page memo from the federal government, State Department, has been released ahead of the hearing revealing they're hoping to deport Khalil based on a rarely used immigration law that lets the Secretary of State remove anyone whose presence might be a threat to U.S. foreign policy.

Now, this guy's a menace. He was part of a group that took over a building. They should be actually, for this case, they should probably bring in the former president. Of Columbia to tell the truth about who she was negotiating with to get the building back and to divest, wouldn't you think? I just think that this guy's got to go, and then we got hundreds more.

But if he doesn't, people are going to look at him as almost a celebrity.

Someone like Rachel Maddow will be a lead guest for Sandra, New Jersey. Sandra, you're on the Brian Kilmeet Show.

Well, good morning, Brian. I wanted to say, first of all, I appreciate you and all your knowledgeable guests. I learn a lot every day. And I was thinking about Donald Trump and China, and the president of China. And I believe that when these two get together, and I think that's in the work, they're planning that, I think that's going to make all the difference, eye contact, maybe face to face.

But if he wanted to do that, if he wanted to do that, Sandra, he could have done that early. I mean, President Xi was available. Remember, he invited him to the inauguration. They sent a high-ranking official to the inauguration, and they reached out since. And so far, the Trump team's like, no, because they want to restructure the relationship.

And so far, they've shown no interest in doing it. This guy lives on his tough guy reputation. If he calls Trump, he's afraid he's going to look weak to his people. Thanks. Charles in Br uh in Brooklyn, New York.

Hey, Charles. Hi. Hello? Charles, you want to talk about manufacturing. What's on your mind?

Right with someone, thank you for taking my call.

So, what I commented about, you're interviewing a person, some person earlier, about this issue of reindustrializing So what I didn't hear is one cannot compare going back into an industrialization situation today with fifty years ago. With the compu with computers, with AI, with robotics and mechanization, you don't need a big task uh uh uh uh employee force, you don't need that much personnel. And as a matter of fact, you need more educated personnel today to run the robotics and the computers and then the and the AI than you needed fifty years ago. And where fifty years ago it took one man uh one hour to to produce one pound of stuff, today you could have that same man in the hour produce five pounds of stuff, and you don't probably don't even need as much space.

So it's not about how many people you can bring into the workforce, it's all about how much one can produce. That was my comment.

Now that's a good point, Charles, because you say manufacturing's got more sophisticated, then we're not asking you to go back to the days of uh uh nineteen twenties in in twenty twenty five.

So that's your point. And again, I'm going to talk to Mike Rowe about that, who was talking to a lot of manufacturers this week when all these the tariff arama took place beginning on Wednesday, excuse me, on Tuesday. And then, of course, all the tariffs, everyone got upset.

Some people wanted the deal. Other people wanted to retaliate, like Canada and China. It's so funny that we've basically ignored Canada. We basically, they're like, hey, we're going to hit you with 25%.

Okay, that's fine. It just doesn't matter.

So, when we come back, I'm going to talk about something else about political correctness that might have struck a nerve, especially if you're a Washington Redskins fan or you're a Cleveland Indians fan, now they're the Guardians, now they're the Commanders.

Well, They're still the Chiefs and they're still the Braves.

So that's where the rubber stopped.

Now, what about the high schools? They want to go after the high schools in New York, maybe your high school in your town. But what about the Indians? I got one representing 85,000 coming up next. He's so busy, he'll make your head spin.

It's Brian Killmead. It's just so disingenuous on their part. They'll go to a Kansas City Chief game, they'll go to a Golden State Warrior game, or watch shoot on TV. And basically, they're picking on our county because our county is a county that cherishes our Native American heritage. We love American values and we respect.

Our Native Americans. That's why we call our teams chiefs and warriors. And again, I was made an honorary chief by Kerry Wachter in the Massapequa School Board, and I take that honor very seriously. And he was wearing a jacket. That is Nassau County executive in New York.

Bruce Blakeman. And Bruce is not only Nassau County, it's one of its, I think it's as big as 15 states. If you just take the population and the land mass on Long Island, so as we go national around the country, this is a national story. I mean, for the longest time, we heard about the Redskins and Washington had to get rid of the Redskins. It was so insulting.

Yeah, a bunch of white people sitting around saying the Redskins is insulting. Yeah, there were a handful of tribes that began to step up, but not really forward. And now more are pushing back, saying it's not an insult in the Native American community, in which I'm not a part of. But I'm from Massapequa, which is named after the Indian tribe that inhabited the area 400 years ago. And the Chiefs is saluting that tribe.

And Wantaw, which is the state right by, was the name of the Wantaw Indians, or a form of Wantaw Indians and American Indians, and their name is the Warriors. They got to change it. And New York State came down with a mandate: if you're in New York, put millions of dollars aside and change the branding on your school. That's been around for 60, 70 years, and out of respect for the Native American community. Is it really respectful?

When are we going to hear from them? That brings to me my next guest. His name is Frank Blackcloud. He's Vice President of the Native American Guardians Association, and he's a tribally enrolled member of the Spirit Lake tribe in North Dakota. Frank, thanks so much for joining us.

Yeah. Have me, Brian. How are you today? Hey, Frank, do you find it insulting that my town, like so many other towns, are pushing back to hold on to the name Chiefs and Braves and Warriors? Is that insulting to you?

You know, the the opposite of that. People that are trying to take it away is the insulting part of this whole situation. You got a bunch of people that don't understand our history, they don't understand our culture. NAGA's mission is to educate, not eradicate. And none of them want to listen to us.

Time and time again, Brian, there's been survey after survey. I've been involved in this fight for over 20 years. Naga has been started, I think, eleven years ago. And we go out there, we're a grassroots organization, a 501c nonprofit, and we take money out of our own pockets. To go and visit with people and educate them on the importance of American Indian history, because American Indian history is American history.

I heard, I was talking to Eunice, who's with your group, and she was saying that even indigenous people is an insult, correct? Yes, it is.

Well, when you think about it, even Native American is sort of an insult. We are American Indians, okay? I am a Dakota Sioux, Miniwakano Yate, which means people of the spirit water. That is my tribe. If you want to go down to the basics, I'm also a cuthead.

So you can break these things down to the bare minimum of who we actually are. But if you want to consider somebody born within the Americas as a Native American, then that dilutes who we are.

So we are all actually American Indians, and that's who we stand for. And the schools that represent us. They do it in an honorable way. We haven't seen anything really, there's been a few issues, of course, but for the most part. Everything has been honorable.

They stand up for us. They try to, like the gentleman said in that interview you had the other day, I listened to that on the way to work. Yes. He touched on every point exactly. It was like he was speaking through me.

So, we really want to help these people to keep those names and try to educate those that don't know. And I tell you what, it's the Dems that do this, and they're on the wrong side of history with this. This is one of those 90-10 issues that we're always looking at, where 90% support it, but the 10% gets all the noise. And they want all the things. And, Frank, they want to look out for you by taking the Chiefs off and putting something innocuous like Sparks or Tigers.

And guess what? After a few years, people are going to not even know what Massapico stands for.

Soon they're going to say, hey, I don't like that name because it's the name of an Indian tribe. And they're going to make them change their name. I mean, where does it stop? Exactly. They want to erase us from history, Brian.

And that's what we're trying to stop. You know, I think the total end result of this whole thing is if they take away every image. Because we're on the forefront right now. People want to be us. They want to emulate us.

We're a warrior society, and people want to be that because we're winners. You know, we may have lost the Indian War, but you know what? We're still here. And we are voiceful and it's about time people started to listen to us. Naga has been trying to do that for years now to get our word out there that these names are not derogatory, they're not hostile, they're supportive, and they actually talk about the true history of Native Americans.

So I saw like some of the communities that don't have the money to fight this, like Weindanche is a working class area, they were the warriors and they had to change to Thunderbirds. Massapequa and Wanta, they're not giving up. But in 2023, the Board of Regents controls the schools there. Took the, when Mass People asked, can we have an exemption, just leave the name alone? They said no.

And they mandated that they spend thousands of dollars to get rid of all Native American, their words, not yours, Native American names and imagery for the New York public schools. And if you just think about how our schools are struggling, especially after the pandemic, you would think they'd put it to extra help. You would think they would put it to give us an extra, get some tutors for kids to start closing the gap in math and English. But instead, they're trying to get the Indian headdress off. Thank you.

There's so many more important things that this money can be spent on besides trying to take away something that is honorable. You can improve the education system, but don't take away the names. These are what people they relate to, they identify with this. You know, they want to be the warrior. They want to be the chief.

They want to be us. I mean, what's wrong with that? There's nothing wrong with that. It just seems so idiotic. This world is upside down and backwards right now.

And I don't approve of it whatsoever. What I do approve of is people and people and sports teams, anybody that wants to sit there and Yeah. Talk about our legacy, talk about our ancestors, and honor us. You know, do not erase us. Like I said, educate, not eradicate.

You know, you got guys like the Baldinger brothers all play in the NFL. You got Richie and Brian and Gary, they're standing up. Seinfeld's from the same town over in Massapequa. All the Baldwins are from Massapequa. We all got through it.

Baldwin's father was a teacher there, great teacher. There's a huge pushback on this, and there's really no effort to hear your side. I mean, have they reached out to you, or have you reached out to them to say, hey, we're not insulted, don't speak for me? Oh yes, we've reached out many, many times, but they just silence us. Like I said, over 20 years I've been involved in this.

And every time we reach out to them, they don't give our full side of the story. They give us maybe one sentence out of a whole paragraph. And it doesn't tell our Yeah. The story whatsoever. Matter of fact, we even started helping the Italians to save Columbus Day because that's another misdemeanor about DC.

They are trying to erase American history. They don't want any part of it. And if it's not a part of their narrative, then it doesn't exist.

So they can't do that. We need to stop them. You know, we need people to join NAGA. It'll help us. Help us join our website, isnaga.

Education Yeah, and it stands for Native American Guardians Association. And Frank, how long have you guys been around? Oh, I believe we started this uh We've been around as far as a group doing this since about the early 2000s. But NAGA started, I believe, 2014, 2015.

So as people have said, well, Brian, I agree with you on Chiefs, but you know Redskins racist. You guys don't believe the Redskins racist, right? Tell me why. We are Redskins, okay? We call each other Redskins.

So how could that be racist if we're calling ourselves that? You know, it's who we identify with. Our skin is red. Our blood is red. Everybody's blood is red.

So we are redskins.

So you would like to see that name go back too? Oh, yes, yes, of course. We fought to keep it. Matter of fact, we stood by the Redskins numerous times. We actually went to their games during that time where they were trying to take it away, but they would not allow us in.

The arena or the football field with our support. They told us we could not bring our signs in. Which was, you could have all these people protesting it, but they wouldn't allow us to show how we supported them, which I thought was ironic.

So, Frank, think about that. Why would that be? Why would they not want the view of an American Indian tribe representing at least 85,000 members? Why wouldn't they want your point of view? Because they don't consider us human.

They consider us to be gone. We lost the war, like I said, and and they don't want us around. But they're posing it just frankly that you understand, they're posing it as totally different. They're posing it as out of respect for you, stop mocking their their history with chiefs, braves and warriors. As I said, it it's Totally upside down and backwards.

If they would listen to us, like we've been speaking for decades. We love these images. We love the history behind it. It's our history. It's our culture.

And people are praising us with those names and logos. the s to major league sports teams. A lot of breeze. Uh of redskins. You name it, Chief Wahoo.

Heck, we love that guy. You know, there's all kinds of things out there that.

Some may think is bad, and it's a very minute, I would say close to. 99% of American Indians support these images. And we say 90 just to give them that little bit of a leeway. But guarantee you, at least 9 out of 10 American Indians support this stuff.

So, why won't they listen to us? I don't know. I don't know. It's, we don't fit their narrative. And plus, they get money from the side that, like George Sorosbach people, we don't have any money, we're grassroots.

So we don't have that type of resource to get our name out there. And so we do what we can with what little resources that we have, but we try to reach as many people as possible. We have a local affiliate, WABC, here in New York, powerful 50,000 watt station here. And that's who's listening to you right now.

So what would you say to those schools that have the wherewithal to fight it? Keep fighting? Keep finding. If you need us, Give us a call. Reach out to us on our website.

Um Phone number, if you want to give us a call, we can get more information there. It's 701. 2700177, reach out to us. We'll do everything we can to come out and help you fight these people. We need to bring some stability back to this country and make sure that we are not erased because, like I said, American Indian history is American history.

And, Frank, people right now look at the American Indians and think, Casino. Yeah, thank you, Casino.

Well, casinos aren't really backups either, but you know, that. We are We're trying to do the best we can with what we have, trying to reach as many people as we possibly can. You know, we're a humble society, too. We do everything we can within our reaches.

So, if somebody needs our help, we will do everything we possibly can. He's from the Spirit Lake Tribe over in North Dakota. He's vice president of the Native American Guardian Association, NAGA. Frank Blackcloud, thanks so much. And I know people who are fighting to keep that name and that legacy really appreciate your support.

Thank you, Brian. I'm a big fan of yours too, buddy. I watch you every morning. And when Gutto has you on, I have your back. That's what I need.

Frank, thanks so much. And everyone in Massapiqua and Wantaw, my town, certainly appreciated it. Thanks so much. Thank you for your time. Back in a moment.

Giving you everything you need to know. You're with Brian Kilmead. Information you want, truth you demand. This is the Brian Kill Me Show. Political parties do not like to renominate the losing nominee from the last time around.

People can say the Republicans did that with Donald Trump in 2024, but that was a huge exception. Look back in history, doesn't happen. People move on. Also, we have a number of polls showing that Kamala Harris was unpopular throughout her time as Vice President of the United States.

So it seems very unlikely, I think, that the party would want to go backwards to a pretty sensitive and painful time to them, the whole Joe Biden affair, in 2028. If she was good, and she As a candidate, I might push back on Byron York. But she wasn't good. She was terrible. She didn't know anything.

She was lazy as a vice president, never did anything distinguishable as attorney general. And now, know how I know she was bad? Because now in these books, the revelations come forward that we all know that nobody thought she was good. Remember, Jamie Raskin was asked by one of the Fox CNN anchors: you know, do you think Kamala Harris should be number two?

Okay, you know, if she if she wants him, that's his choice. Re no, but what do you think?

Well, that's what he wants. Obviously, Nancy Pelosi is the same way. We find out that she wanted an open jungle primary where she has an opportunity. The only reason she got the nomination was because of James Clyburn. First time was picked because of Clyburn.

Because he said, Joe Biden, if you pick a woman of color, I will get behind you and I will win South Carolina for you. He did and he should. And he he only had one choice, her, or Val Demings. And they I don't think Val Demings really wanted it. And she failed as a Senate candidate.

How popular would she have been? And then, of course, he has no choice, a woman of color. There was left with Kamala Harris, who he didn't like and was. Not good. Doesn't study.

Lazy. Bad with people. Terrible staff. Can't keep anybody. But the reason I bring that up is because Tim Walls is everywhere now saying I might not be the right guy.

But he got booed in his own state house yesterday. And everyone says, well, you know, Donald Trump is vulnerable.

Okay, Donald Trump is vulnerable. Really? He's vulnerable to what? You know, to what? And who's who's name one?

I could name five people on the right that would be great candidates. You know, JD Vance will have a leg up in two years. He will have to get ready soon, probably a year and a half. And then Marco Rubio, if he wanted to run, but it's tough running against a teammate. I think that's legitimate.

I think Glenn Young is gonna going to legitimately uh try to do it, see if he can get some traction. I don't think there's any doubt about it. There, it's Tom Cotton. If he feels his kids are old enough, he would give it a shot. I don't think he longs to be President, but man, is he qualified to be President?

I mean, that's just off the top of my head. I can't do that on the left right now. And believe me, AOC is getting all the publicity. Bernie Sanders is getting the big crowds. Congratulations.

Good luck. Name him again. He'll be in his mid eighties. James, listening on KCRS in Odessa, Texas. James.

Hey, Brian, uh good to talk to you, brother. Hey, uh, you know. There was there still will be, even uh in a little more technical manufacturing, that's still a lot of jobs. It it's less jobs for th than in the past for sure, but a lot of those can are still blue collar. They're just modern blue collar.

I know a lot of guys that are CNC lathe programmers and stuff like that, and The the trade schools will just trade they'll just they'll just update to train Hmm. everyday people to program machines and stuff like that. It'll be different from someone that goes to computer classes. It'll just be learning to program machines and stuff like that. That'll still be blue collar jobs involved in modern manufacturing.

Yeah, that's a good point. We're not going back to the days where we're actually using the ratchets and using scissors, or using big cutting boards. It's got to be modernized, and even though a lot of it's going to be automated. It can't be blue collar. Yeah, but it can still be blue collar.

It's not like you're losing blue collar out of that. Absolutely. Yeah. And I just think, number one, I just think people, there's a lot of people who don't want to go to college and want opportunities to excel and make a middle-class wage right away with an opportunity to get into management. There's nothing wrong with that.

But right now, it's not much of an option unless you get in finance or insurance. And I think there's a way to come back. But you're talking about Neil Ferguson, James. I played his cut from Heritage Foundation, where he said Donald Trump wants to go back in time to 100 years ago, and we're not going to do that. Thanks, James.

I love the input on manufacturing. You think it's a dry subject? It is probably the most important. Don't forget, by the way, to watch One Nation Sunday at 10 o'clock Eastern Time. Amongst my guests will be Tom Cotton, then James Blair, who's Deputy Chief of Staff right under Susie Wils.

That'll be great. We're also going to talk to Mike Rowe and Jimmy Phalo will be on. We're also going to talk to The Food Babe about all the progress they're making now in the Get America Healthy Again movement. Thanks. Don't forget, I'll be on the five tonight.

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