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Hour number two, man, that went quickly. Whatever you did on your Memorial Day, I hope that you enjoyed it. And I think when I talk to veterans, when I talk to people who lost loved ones, family members or friends, people who served with others that were lost in the line of duty, what I hear most often is we, they, don't begrudge you your joy, your unofficial start to summer, your barbecues and baseball and beach trips on Memorial Day. But also let it be a day of remembrance.

Thousands and thousands and thousands and thousands and thousands. Every single decade, our American society has another reason to not just mourn but be thankful. New wars, old wars, family legacies, generations, a tradition passed down, handed down, passed down. It's been really amazing to hear from so many of you who are proud of grandparents, aunts, uncles, parents, brothers, in some case, your children, which is so hard. If it were me, I would want my loved one to be remembered so that it was the sacrifice, not in vain, but it's a tribute to remember someone who made that sacrifice in the line of duty. To know that it's appreciated can go so far.

So we try to do that. Grateful to our fallen soldiers and sailors, excuse me, who made the ultimate sacrifice in service to our nation. And it was such an honor to be out at Pearl Harbor and the USS Arizona to start our honeymoon.

So we were there on May 2nd was the very first place we went on the first day of our honeymoon. So I shared a video that I took while I was out there. You're only out there for a few minutes on the memorial. They keep the boats coming, the shuttles come out and they drop off a new group and the other group departs.

So you get a limited amount of time, but it's enough and it's powerful. And I'm sure I'll never forget it. In the video that I took, I shared with you on Twitter, A Law Radio and then Jay, how many put it up on Facebook as well.

It's after hours with Amy Lawrence, our phone number 855-212-4227. Yeah, the Navy sailors that took us out to the memorial, they were fairly stern in reminding us that this was a burial site. This was a place where so many lost their lives and are forever buried in a watery grave. So it was really important to them that we respect that as well. And I hope as much as we enjoy being at Pearl, as much as we are blown away by the grounds and the monuments and the setting is incredible.

And being in Hawaii is such a privilege that it was a dream come true for me. At the same time, there was a somber element to it. As you remember what happened there, see the videos. And so I kind of feel that way about Memorial Day. Yes, it's a holiday weekend.

And I know many people enjoy it. And I don't think families begrudge that, loved ones begrudge that only that you also remember. So thank you for allowing us to remember with you. On Monday evening, the Celtics become the first team to enter the NBA Finals with two or fewer losses along the way since 2017. So it's a fairly dominant performance by the Celtics. Of course had the best record all season long. They outpaced the East by what was it 12, 13 games.

That was crazy. You could take the top 10 in the West. And they weren't separated by 13 total games from 1 to 10.

But that's the cushion. That's how far out in front the Celtics were the rest of the East. And I'm not saying they haven't been tested.

They haven't been pushed. The Pacers had opportunities and could not capitalize. And it hurts that they did not have their superstar guard in Tyrese Halliburton. But credit the Celtics.

They know how to close. That's part of the experience, part of having been on the stage over and over, even if they have not won a title since 08. But now four wins away from banner number 18. Gosh, it's been a long time since it was Ray Allen, Kevin Garnett, Paul Pierce. Boy has he changed a lot since that day.

The anything is possible. Remember Doc Rivers coached that team. He ended up with a pink shirt because he had the Gatorade dumped on him. And now think about Doc Rivers. Is he still the coach of Milwaukee? I don't even know this. For now.

For now. But remember, he actually won a championship as a coach. Not that that matters to anyone since. The Celtics were there in 22, but the Warriors closed it out in Boston in Game 6 for their sixth championship. The Celtics felt like they had an even better opportunity last year.

But the Heat used that formula. To build a 3-0 lead and then hang on. Well, hang on, bludgeon the Celtics in Boston in Game 7 of the Eastern Conference Finals last year. I don't think it's a concern necessarily because they are an experienced team, but man, they got a long time to sit around. You can't imagine Kristaps Porzingis won't be back by the start of the NBA Finals, so that changes a lot. Whether it's Mavericks or Timberwolves, now Dallas can close out and earn the sweep as well and be sitting around nearly as long. Or maybe it's not such a bad thing, hear me out, if the Timberwolves win a game. Now I'm not saying the Mavericks are going to let them win, don't misunderstand me. But I don't think it's terrible if the series goes a little longer. Just so the Mavericks don't have a week and a half to sit around. So we'll see how that plays out on Tuesday with Game 4 also taking place in Dallas. It's after hours with Amy Lawrence and Jalen Brown doing his postgame press conference next to the Larry Bird Eastern Conference Finals MVP.

And it was big moment after big moment, big play after big play that earned him that honor. DJ McConnell will trigger the inbound. Into the backcourt. Nembhard gets a running start. Right hand dribble past Jalen.

Scoops it up. Blocked by Jalen Brown. He stayed with Nembhard and blocked the shot, spiking it into the ground. Now the Celtics get their turn as we go into Minute 48 of Game 4. Celtics get their turn as we go into Minute 48 of Game 4.

A chance for the Celtics to win the Eastern Conference Championship on the road as they did two years ago. Jalen stops on a dime. Dribbles to the middle of the floor. Jump pass out of the corner. Derek White for three.

Got it. Derek White from the right corner has given Boston a 105-102 lead. Forty-one seconds to go in Game 4. DJ McConnell, hand off Nembhard. Nembhard turns the corner, steps to his right, three to tie it. No, rebound.

Jason Tatum pulls it down and gets fouled in the backcourt by Nesmith. Wow. Wow.

Wow, wow, wow. You can hear Sean Grandy and Cedric Maxwell, of course, on those two cuts that we played back-to-back. But we kept in that same phrase that ends the one cut, which was the Jalen Brown block on the defensive end. You hear Sean repeat himself.

Why? Because we used that at the beginning of the next cut. Just so you know, it's back-to-back plays. Then it's Jalen who has the huge pass to Derek White in the corner for the only bucket, the only made bucket in the final two-and-a-half minutes, the one that broke the 102 all-tie. So Jalen finishes with a loaded stat line, a stuffed stat line.

But it's not the numbers that reflect his biggest growth this season. I focus more on myself in terms of like keeping my composure, you know, managing like that game anxiety and stuff like in keeping your mentality, keep going. Those are stuff that I think from last year to this year that I was able to work on and improve on.

So, you know, regardless of the result, I thought that was this year has been my best year in that regard. Managing emotions, something that every athlete will have to encounter along the way. And for some guys, it takes them longer.

Some guys are just born with that ice water in their veins. But Jalen's had some high-profile failures and disappointments. If you think back to last season, performances where people accused him of disappearing, turning the ball over.

Not being able to perform, not being able to come through in the big moment. Well, that's changed drastically and he knows it. So does his team.

There's a sweep that will go next to their name on the internet, in history books. And yet, Jason Tatum would tell you this has not been an easy trip to the finals. The playoffs is like an emotional rollercoaster. And trying to find a balance right in between the wins and the losses. Trying to stay even-killed throughout the entire, however long you're playing is important. The team that does that the best usually has a lot of success.

Just a grind it out type of game. It was a hard game. A lot of credit to the Pacers. Just a team that just did not quit. Did not quit their fight.

It's unbelievable. They didn't make excuses. They continued to play and they pushed us.

They pushed us to the edge. The guys did a great job having an understanding that a game is not supposed to go a certain type of way. And you've got to find different ways to win.

You've got to learn to protect leagues. You've got to learn to come back from deficits. You have to learn to execute in close game situations. You have to communicate adjustments and you've just got to make plays.

You've got to be tough-minded. Joe Mazzulla, Al Horford, Jason Tatum. They've got so many veterans. So much experience in their lineup. And now they've got a track record.

They've got the motivation of coming so close and coming up short in the past. Not Drew Holiday, of course. He's the one guy on this roster that has been to the NBA Finals and come out victorious with the Bucks.

It never gets old. I think this series, so much credit goes to Indiana to the Pacers. They're a really good team.

And I think every game, maybe besides Game 2, could have went either way. So much credit to them. That is so true. And that's got to be something that will eat at the Pacers for a while.

But maybe it provides them the motivation as well. They were without Tyrese Halliburton. They've got some young guys. Although we certainly saw Andrew Nembhard step up. And he actually believes that this is a stepping stone for Indiana. I think we've learned how these games go and what being in a series feels like. I've never played a team seven times or six times in a row. So it's an interesting feeling.

It was a fun experience. And a lot of things you could kind of reflect on and take into the next season for sure. What a stat line for him. Stepping in for Tyrese Halliburton. 24 points. Ten assists. Six rebounds. A blocked shot. A steal.

In 39 minutes. They asked a lot of him, but he came through. He had some big plays for Neesmith. Toppin. Oh, T.J. McConnell.

I'm telling you. He was terrific. But I wonder if he'll think about that one missed layup that could have put the Pacers in front by 11.

About eight and a half to go in the fourth quarter. Actually, yelled out loud. Oh, well, first I said, what a pass. And then, oh, as he missed the layup and made my husband watch it. Rewound it so he could watch it. It was just such a drastic, emotional flip flop, if you will.

The high, like, yes. They found the seam. They found the guy running the lane. But then, oh, no. And it's not that I was cheering for one team or another. I do appreciate good basketball.

But I don't know. Maybe I felt it coming. With that miss. And then a big three at the other end by Jalen. It felt like that was a missed opportunity. It wasn't the end.

There was a lot of time left. But I kept waiting for the other shoe to drop with the Pacers. And, yeah, with Rick Carlisle, of course, not having his star point guard, still just seeing this more than once. We made our share of mistakes. Like tonight, you know, we gambled probably five times in the second half. That led to at least ten points for them.

And those are discipline type things that you have to learn in this kind of environment. The level of fight was just tremendous all the way through this. Circumstance never phased them one way or the other.

They were in this to win every possession that they could and any game that they could. There were a lot of things accomplished this year. And certainly expectations will be raised for next year. Which is good.

Which is good. So there are challenges to meet over the summer for our guys to all get better. All of us involved need to get better.

Rick Carlisle having been around the NBA for so long as a player, as a coach, he played with and learned from some of the greats, including Bill Walton, Larry Bird. He understands how this can be a step. And in the moment, it hurts. But I do appreciate his perspective. This is a journey.

All right, so we lost this battle, but it may help us win the war at some point. The Pacers were one of the most entertaining teams of the season. I guess it depends on who you ask whether they're a surprise survivor to the Eastern Conference Finals. But along the way, shooting the lights out.

Just need to pay attention to those details. The hustle plays, obviously taking care of the basketball in the late stages has to do with growth and experience in some cases. But man, they shot better than 50% in the first three games that were all losses.

In stretches. They hit everything. So there's plenty to build on. Seems like there's great chemistry on the roster. They enjoy playing together. And yeah, maybe this is a bonus appearance in the Eastern Conference Finals. Will they be a force next year? Like the Knicks. I do expect the Knicks to improve. I'm hoping the Bucks figure stuff out. They seem lost in no man's land in Sherwood Forest for the majority of this season. Hi. So now we'll see whether or not the Mavericks can get in as quickly.

Though I don't think it's a bad thing if their series goes a little longer. I really don't. On Twitter, ALawRadio. Also on our Facebook page. The NBA held a moment of silence for Bill Walton before the Eastern Conference Finals Game 4. We've got a few more quips and clips from Bill. But also Rick Harlisle, this is before the game against Boston, shared a fantastic story about his friend and teammate. Really kind of sums up what Bill Walton was all about.

And if you need more stories, there are plenty of them on Twitter, on social. Good to have you with us. If you're waking up, heading into your Tuesday, maybe a shortened work week. We're glad to have you, glad to keep you company.

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This is After Hours with Amy Lawrence. Bill Walton, a huge Grateful Dead fan. I probably could name more than one Grateful Dead song.

Maybe only half of one. But I know he loved them. In fact, that's what I would think of when I ever heard the term, the name of the band. Grateful Dead, Bill Walton. That's what he was known for.

And apparently, it's not just today or this past decade. But man, this goes back to when he played. Now, he said he fell in love with the Grateful Dead when he was a teenager. So that meant he carried that love and talked about it when he was in the NBA playing with Rick Carlisle. I have him to thank probably also for me being married to my wife, Donna. Our first date was to a Dead show in Washington, D.C. And I called Bill and I said, look, this is 1987.

I got a date with a girl that I think is pretty cool. I'd love to go to the Dead show at Capitol Center. I don't have any tickets. Can you help? And he said, just go to the back door.

Ask for Dennis McInally. Tell him you're Rick Carlisle from the Boston Celtics and everything will be just fine. I said, really? He said, I said, oh, yeah. So I drove up to the loading dock. And so Donna was with me. We hadn't known each other that long. I said, just, you know, just wait here a second. She's like, what? She said, do you have tickets? I said, just give me a couple minutes here. So I walked down and I knocked on the door. The whole thing ended up working out.

I walked back up the loading dock ramp with two all-access laminates. One said Bill Walton and one said Susie Walton. And so we were set up for the show and we were actually on stage watching the show. Wow. OK, Bill Walton, Susie Walton. Yeah, he had a lot of clout. And I do believe it's because of his personality. Infusive, warm, generous, love to talk, could connect with people after you came in contact with or spoke to or even around Bill Walton. You never forgot it. I've read so many stories, but also heard them from colleagues of mine.

Once you had an interaction with Bill, it was something that not only you remembered for life, but a story that you would tell for life. It's After Hours with Amy Lawrence. All right, Jay, I've got to challenge a question on social. Maybe you can help me with or it's not my department, but I'm going to pass it along to producer Jay and see if we can figure it out between the two of us. The thing is, when people come to us with technical difficulties, you should know this is a fairly regular occurrence here on the network and here at work. And we do not have people who are with us 24 seven who can help us and answer questions. So we're pretty much at the mercy of the equipment, which a lot of it comes from 1982.

Really, the era that Bill Walton was still playing basketball. Are you ready, Jay? David sends us this tweet trying to listen on Odyssey as I type. But your station isn't coming through. Other Odyssey stations are. Well, first of all, we're a network, not a station, but OK. Other Odyssey stations are technical error question mark.

I don't know what to tell them. Is that on? He tried to ask like a smart speaker to play CBS.

Excuse me, to play Infinity Sports Network. Or is he because maybe you could try that way. Maybe just was he trying to use the app? He said he says trying to listen on Odyssey. I'm not sure if he's on the actual website or if he's on an app.

I just know that. Yeah, I Google it and there's a spot that says listen live. Let's try it, shall we? Now, see, the problem is I can't hear anything in here because let's see, it's Google because I'm in a place where the computer is muted and doesn't play any audio in the studio after hours with Amy Lawrence. This is scintillating radio. Listen live.

All right. Oh, that's kind of funny. On the Odyssey page, it says Odyssey dot com. CBS Sports Radio. Oh, dear.

No joke. It still says CBS Sports Radio. OK, well, that's one part of the website they didn't fix. Ruh-roh.

OK, let's try that. So, hmm, free Internet radio on TuneIn. I see our podcast. Let's see, listen live. I mean, there's so many different places that you can listen live. All right, website.

Now I'm checking out Westwood One. They apparently have the right name of the network, which is good news. Website. I see the listen live.

Are you going to try it, Jay? Let's see, it's not working for me over here. It's not working for you either? No, I'm not that the listen live link isn't working.

I can't find the link. Oh, so you just go to our Odyssey page that says after hours with Amy Lawrence on CBS Sports Radio. And at the top, there's a dropdown under listen live. All sports stations. Yeah, see, I would say just take a sports station that carries our show and listen to that. For instance, AM 670, the score in Chicago. WEEI in Boston. WGR in Buffalo.

If you just take one of those stations and listen to their feed live, there's the Infinity Sports Network. All right, I'm playing it, but I can't I won't be able to hear it in here anyway. So Jay, you have to let me know whether or not it works. Jay's trying it. He's testing it out, David.

We're trying to get to the bottom of this, you know, as engineers and all. I would say that you should get a response from the Infinity Sports Network Twitter account, but I wouldn't bank on it. I'm not sure someone actually mans it. Other than us. The various shows that are in studio. I know you can listen in D.C. I know you can listen in Pittsburgh. I mean, there's so many different stations that are carrying our show right now that you really could just find one of those online.

I hope that helps. Although here's the funny part. If he can't listen and it's not working, then he's not going to be able to hear this anyway.

That's true. I'll have to type him back. So what about you?

Are you having any luck? I'm just trying to get this computer to work, to be honest with you. Oh, see what I said about equipment that comes from 1985? Well, 86 when Bill Walton won an NBA title with the Celtics. Larry Bird remembered that in his tribute to his old friend and teammate. OK, we're going to take our break. We're going to try to get to the bottom of this, but I'm going to I think I should just write back on Twitter with the link to one of our stations so he can hear it there.

Cleveland carries all four hours of our show. I kind of feel like this should be a pretty easy situation to rectify. But what do I know? I'm going to I'm going to do that until Jay tells me different. 670 the score. Just confirm we're on there. So OK, boom.

Let's try that. Thank you, Jay. While the sports world is saying goodbye to Bill Walton, the tennis world is saying goodbye to a pair of former champions who may have bowed out for the last time. On the major stage. Retirement.

It's a word that been saying a lot lately in my own family. Certainly these guys knew it was coming. Maybe didn't want it to happen quite so abruptly at the French Open.

You are listening to the After Hours podcast. For me, have this trophy next to me again means everything now. So, yeah, I've been emotional, victories without a doubt, unexpected in some way. A great two weeks. Honestly, no, I played since the beginning, improving every day and finishing playing a good final.

This is After Hours with Amy Lawrence. Rafael Nadal, he is the king of the clay. He's the king of the French Open. But we knew that this was going to be a tall task for him, a potential run in the singles tournament at the French Open this year, especially when his opening match, according to the draw, was against the four seed, Alexander Zverev. He did him no favors, even though he has won this tournament more than any other player in history. But at 37 years old.

Goodness. He had to work just to get back to this point. Trying to add to his total of 22 grand slams.

He needed to, but I think to be able to go out on his own terms, to go out healthy, playing as opposed to injuries. And obviously, at the French Open, where he's won 14 singles titles, there is no one the fans love more. And yeah, he was yelling, pumping his fist on big points, but ultimately fell in straight sets. The packed center court, as you can imagine. And this is the first time he's ever lost in an opening round match at the French Open. So it was jarring. The best clay court player we've ever seen on the men's side. And yeah, his place in history is largely secure because of what he did at the French Open.

And so he did take the time to soak it in and also address the crowd there in Paris. It's difficult for me to talk. Welcome to Nada Yada Island. This season on Nada Yada Island. When we were new, they spoiled me. They even gave me a phone.

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See site for details. I don't know if it's going to be the last time that I'm going to be here in front of all of you, honestly. I am not 100% sure, but if it's last time, I enjoy it now. The crowd have been amazing during the whole week of preparation, and today, yeah, the feelings that I have today are difficult to describe in words, but for me, it's so special to feel the love of the people the way that I felt in the place that I love the most. So, thank you all for coming.

And as we began this segment, you heard him in 2022. Of course, this is one of the amazing things about older athletes, is that they're in touch with their own sports mortality, and they recognize this could be the last time. There's already a statue honoring him there at Roland Garros, but this is certainly not the way that the fans wanted to say goodbye. And then thinking about ultimately walking away from tennis, how difficult that is. Well, I'm not running to know one place for the moment. I don't know what's going to happen in the next few months.

I need to finish all this process. My mindset was ready till Olympics, you know, and then I need to check how I feel in different ways. I mean, in terms of personal motivation, body feelings, and then in terms of level of tennis, if it makes sense to keep playing. He mentions the Olympics later this summer, that that's his main goal right now because they will be in Paris. I can imagine that is so important to him. And he wants to prepare himself mentally, physically, so that's where he turns his attention now.

Not knowing what happens between now and then, but that becoming his top priority. And he was asked about Wimbledon, which takes place around July 4th, and he said, that looks difficult. Right now just wants to focus on playing the clay court.

Goodness. At one point in his career, 81 straight wins on the clay surface. And if he doesn't play in Paris again, or doesn't play Roland Garros again, 112 wins, three losses will be his final record.

Oh my goodness. Three being in the first round against Varev. Only three guys have ever beaten him at the French Open. By the way, Novak Djokovic was in the crowd to watch.

Carlos Alcaraz, same thing. Iguis Wojtek, who's the best player on the women's side. Those three wanted to make sure that they caught his last match, if in fact this is it at the French Open.

It's after hours with Amy Lawrence. I really do hope that he's healthy for Paris. It would be amazing to see the reception he gets at the Olympics, if he could play. We will head to Paris about this time tomorrow, when our friend Christopher Clary will join us from the French Open. Novak Djokovic, you remember going back now, what was it, gosh, a few weeks?

It was early in May, right? When he was hit by a water bottle in a practice session, and it really affected him after the fact, and he lost in his next match, and admitted that he was struggling, and that it really had a mental impact on him, an emotional impact on him, because the fear of getting hit again, it was a metal water bottle at the Italian Open, and it rattled him. We talk, and this was an accident, it wasn't on purpose, I think it fell out of someone's bag, but still, we talk about this at sporting events where fans get unruly and they throw things onto the field.

I would assume in most cases they're not trying to hurt an athlete, but in the off chance that it hits one, it can have far-reaching effects and consequences for that athlete. Novak Djokovic is one of the most mentally tough athletes in the world. Not to mention his physical shape. He's been through pretty much everything you can possibly imagine to do what he's done.

I mean, that includes having the time off around COVID, not getting vaccinated, the people who criticized him, the guys that wouldn't allow him entry, all that stuff. I mean, this guy has been through everything, and he's still the best player, one of the best players in the world. 24 different Grand Slam singles titles, and is trying to find a groove at the French Open. We'll play tomorrow, well, we'll play Tuesday, and we'll talk to Christopher Clary not just about Rafael Nadal, but also about Novak and Andy Murray, who joined Nadal as a first-round exit versus Stan Wawrinka, and Andy Murray, another one of those guys who we may not see much longer. I did really well here over the years, and a lot of the, I guess, results and stuff, I think the issue for me is that when you compare it to what Rafa or Novak achieved in the same time, it obviously is minuscule in comparison, but, yeah, most players would sign up for the results I'd had here. So we've got Andy Murray for Wimbledon more than likely, and that's where he won two of his three Grand Slams. That grass court season will build up to Wimbledon, and that was his best surface, obviously, as a Brit. And he did go on to say there's no perfect ending in tennis. In most cases, there's not a perfect ending.

There's not a perfect exit. So Andy Murray, Rafa Nadal, we already know that, and one of my all-time favorites, Roger Federer, is done. Novak, obviously still in the prime of his career and could add a few more Grand Slam titles, but as he gets older, you're talking about, because he's 37 now, you're talking about a group of players, a group of men who may never be equal. This era with these three guys, I know Novak was a little bit younger, but the way they pushed each other, brought out the best in each other. Think about the collection of Grand Slam titles. Federer has 20, Rafa has 22, 14 of those of the French, Novak has 24, three guys who all played in the same era, ending up with that many titles, 66 of them. We may never see three guys playing at the same time again, who have so much success. Oh my gosh, if Novak adds one, two, three more, I don't know if that'll ever be equaled. Gosh, it may not be equaled now. We thought for years that Roger Federer would own the all-time record, and he's been bypassed by both of these guys.

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