After Hours with Amy Lawrence PODCAST: Hour 4

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There's so many. Dog photos are the bomb. Producer Jay had this idea last year that we should quit sports radio and just start an entire network of nothing but shows about dogs. I think he's on to something.

I think he's on to something. It's After Hours with Amy Lawrence on CBS Sports Radio. Again, thank you so much for all of your dog photos. They are incredible. Who knew there were so many shapes and sizes and personalities and facial expressions and colors and sleeping positions for your dogs? Oh my gosh, it's amazing. I encourage you, on this Monday, if it's a Manic Monday or if it's a Monster Monday and you just need some smiles and some joy, please check out the thread that's on Twitter, ALawRadio or our show Twitter and then on our Facebook page. Although, make sure you set aside some time because we've got thousands of photos of dogs, but they will make you happy and there's so many of them.

It's awesome. It's like an encyclopedia of dogs and the names that you all have come up with are fantastic. I just saw two that are Whiskey and River.

I've seen a few named after sports stadiums or teams like Lambo. That's one I just saw and I'm a fan of big dogs. I know many of you have smaller dogs.

They certainly are easier to take care of and many of them will live longer too. The small purebreds, but it's just awesome. The ears, the noses, the colors, and again the smiles and the crazy facial expressions that our dogs give us. We know when they're having a toothed. In my family, we call it a puppitude when they're having a toothed. So Penny, my Penny, she's sweet and she's sassy and she's stubborn as ever and she's a senior.

And you know they all come with different challenges. So I appreciate all your kind words and sharing your puppy photos because they have made my weekend. We started that on Friday morning and the photos are still, they're still coming in.

It's After Hours with Amy Lawrence on CBS Sports Radio. I know a lot of you have been through the same thing where you have to make a tough decision about an older puppy. So that's really hard. Somebody posted on Facebook too that it's a, it's a lifetime of happiness and joy and smiles and laughter and adventures and it's one really bad day.

I wish that were true. I wish it was one bad day. I know that in 2020 when I had to say goodbye to my 18 year old cat, I cried like a baby for two weeks. Two weeks over a cat. Cats are great, but let's be honest, we don't quite form the same, most of them, we don't form the same attachments.

Or they don't form the same attachments to us, right? Cats are awesome. I've had cats my entire life since I was seven years old. So I love cats.

I still have one at home. Sugar is a disaster. She's, you want to talk about Diva. She's like the worst of the NFL wide receivers. But I know she's gonna miss Penny a ton.

Dogs are just different in that, at least my dog. She traveled with me. We made four road trips to Houston for heaven's sakes. Most recently for the wedding. She's so popular in my neighborhood. I've lived in my neighborhood now going on nine years and they, everyone knows the dog. They don't know me. They know the dog. They always ask how's she doing? Some neighbors say to me, oh, she looks really good.

Cause they know they've been seeing her around for, for a long time. So thank you for your photos. Thank you for your empathy. And also thank you for your, your, your, just your, I don't want to call it a club necessarily. Cause it's not that elite, but your, your company in, in being dog owners and dog lovers too.

Cause it's, it's meant a lot to me to know that I'm not alone or to be reminded that I'm not alone in this. And, and I tell Penny she's, she's famous. Just like I told my Grammy Helen, you're famous. Grammy would laugh at that. So it's after hours on our Facebook page or on our YouTube channel and also on Twitter and our phone number 855-212-4227.

That's 855-212-4CBS. We kind of went through the NBA in the first hour. The West is tight. Okay.

That's what you need to know. But the defending champions, they're finding a groove. Nicole Jokic has had three triple doubles since the All-Star break and the Nuggets are 3-0. So they're now reeling in the Timberwolves and the Thunder at the top. They've already passed the Clippers at the top of the Western Conference. So beware of them.

They're hot to trot. The Suns, when they get all five of their starters to play as well as they did last night, they're also a load and a team to beat because it's not just KD and it's not just Devin Booker. They get 24 points from Grayson Allen. They get a huge game from Yusef Nurkic on both ends of the floor.

Royce O'Neal contributes double figures as well. So a big deal for the Suns as they're trying to climb the ranks in the West, but also take care of unfinished business. I just thought it was somewhat ironic and I know this happens a lot, but here are the Suns who are starting to thrive under Frank Vogel and they're playing their former team, his former team, excuse me, in the Lakers who wanted something different, right? And well, here's what's happening with the Lakers. They're in the same situation as they were a year ago. They rely far too heavily on Anthony Davis and LeBron James.

Not that they don't get contributions from other places, at times they do, but the issue is going to end up being the same, right? You're going to end up having to ride those two. Now, if DeAngelo Russell stays healthy, that's an extra wrinkle. But when DeAngelo gets hurt, and sometimes he does, and he can't pick up the load as much, well, then you're going to run into an issue. Anthony Davis and LeBron James, they both have double doubles.

Of course, that's what they're paid to do. The Lakers don't get a lot off the bench. Though I do think that there's a possibility here that Spencer Dinwiddie could find his spot in the rotation, that he could find that rhythm and groove. He's been through a lot, right, in the last couple years of his, well, his whole career with injuries and stuff. But the different places that he's bounced around over the last couple of seasons, it's kind of hard to get comfortable. You feel like you're constantly changing, not just uniforms, but changing teammates and having to find a new comfort zone. So the Brooklyn to Washington to Dallas to Brooklyn, now to LA.

Goodness. That's all happened, by the way, like his first stint in Brooklyn ended in, was it 20, was the end of the 21 season, right? And well, it was the end of the 21 season. And then he has the year in Washington, then a couple years in Dallas, and then gets traded back to Brooklyn. Oh, hi, Kyrie. And now is with the Lakers. So it's been a lot for him, but I do love his talent.

I do appreciate his professionalism, and I do think he could be a viable piece off the bench. It's just a matter of getting comfortable there, right? And them getting comfortable with him. But I do wonder about the Lakers, if they're going to end up in the exact same situation. We'll see. The playoffs are, what are we, seven weeks away, six, seven weeks away. I don't know exactly when they start.

They're usually right around the Masters when they start. So we'll see how they do and whether or not they can keep this group healthy and moving forward. Something that caught my attention on Sunday while we were talking about the NBA, Doc Rivers returns to Philadelphia now as the new, very new, head coach of the Milwaukee Bucks. Big coach, Doc Rivers.

And today's stars, the 6'2 from Weaver State to Missouri, Damian Eller. Oh my gosh, he got booed. And not just booed, but it was loud, loud. They showered him with the boos, the vocal boos, not the other boos, because that would be criminal. Anyway, he initially wants us to believe he didn't even notice. I didn't even hear it, to be honest.

So that means I went back at home. You're a member of the media for most of this season. There's no way you did not hear the booing. That's just, you can barely talk to your team in the huddle over that kind of booing in Philadelphia.

And also, what the heck is, well, this is a loaded question. What the heck is wrong with those fans? Are you kidding me? Like blame the coach. Don't blame the players that you had on your team. Don't blame James Harden, although I'm sure he gets booed as well by Philly fans. I mean, it's unbelievable.

The revision is history. How all of a sudden it's all Doc Rivers fault that the team couldn't capitalize and couldn't close out the series against the Celtics, right? So Doc was asked about his time in Philadelphia and he's gracious.

It was awesome. I mean, really, like, listen, I had three good years here. And I'm not talking about basketball.

I'm just talking about life. I enjoy my stay here. I have made friends for life from here. Still come in and snuck in a couple of times.

Got some golf in at the Philly cricket. So no, this was good. Fans are good. Somebody, just a couple of hilarious comments.

I will say that. So he hears the comments but doesn't hear the booing. The booing is so loud, you can't miss it. He just maybe thought it was part of the pregame ceremonies.

Maybe they were pumping it in through the loudspeaker. Who got caught a few years ago pumping in crowd noise over the loudspeaker? Who was that? It was an NFL team, right? Sounds familiar. I can't remember who it was, but I know. Let me look it up.

Yeah, I feel like that was the story that we talked about. Not that it bothered me. I mean, whatever. Dude, your job is to make it a raucous atmosphere for the visiting team.

If you gotta re-rack the fans and play it over the loudspeaker, then that's fine. It's After Hours with Amy Lawrence on CBS Sports Radio. Now the Bucks go in there and they get a much needed win. But they're still below 500 since Doc Rivers took over in Milwaukee.

I'm sure he's going to get blamed for that as well. But at least they've started to maybe find a rhythm. I hope that they have found a rhythm because they have far too much talent to not capitalize and take advantage of it. But yeah, I mean, they're still trying to find their footing post Adrian Griffin when oh yeah, they had 30 wins post Adrian Griffin. Right now they're up to a grand old seven wins since Doc Rivers took over. Well, seven wins since Adrian Griffin got fired. You know, they had to make that transition to Doc Rivers. Remember, he initially had some reservations because of what they did to Adrian Griffin.

So however much time people want to spend on the Philadelphia chapter of his career, it sounds like he's moving on and really doesn't have answers about why they weren't able to dispose of the Celtics when they had the opportunity. I honestly haven't thought about it much since. I mean, maybe they were better.

Could that be a possibility? You know, that's probably why you pick them, right? You know, so that's one reason I thought game six was our game. I didn't think we I didn't think Joel got the ball enough. And trust me, it was for him to get it and he didn't get it.

I don't know how healthy he was. But as I've told you guys 100 times, you put yourself in those positions and winning is hard and you're going to win some of them. You're not going to win some of them. And you just keep going. You know, I think that's the answer. It's true. That is sports, right? Win some, you lose some.

You do the best that you can. And sometimes the other teams are just better. And he's seen a lot. He's lived a lot of basketball life. I'm impressed that he continues to bounce back and that he takes it with a grain of salt. And I mean, he played it too, right? And he does have a championship.

But like the guy who called us earlier and said he's good. The Broncos won two Super Bowls in the late 90s, so he's fine for the rest of his life. That does not apply to Doc Rivers, right? People forget the fact that he helped to lead the Broncos. Oh, Evans.

It's a Monday morning. He helped to lead the Celtics to a championship and a place that they had not been able to get to, right? They had Hall of Famers on their roster. It took Doc Rivers getting in there to lead them to that promised land. And somehow that doesn't seem to count anymore. What counts is the fact that his teams have had some pretty tough collapses, including in the bubble, and that they haven't gotten back to the NBA Finals. But I don't know. That might be a Philly problem because they've had other coaches who've led them to that point and can't quite get over the hump. All right.

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The East, not so much, because coming out of the break, as there are some other good teams, but as we've talked about, the Celtics are the team to beat, and now they've won eight in a row, and they've expanded that lead atop the East to seven and a half games. When it comes down to the playoffs, none of that stuff really matters. I feel like it's going to be about matchups. It's going to be about playing hard. Obviously, home court matters, so that is key. But when you get into the thick of it, you've got to win basketball games regardless of what your seat is. If anything, it puts more pressure on you. But I think we're an experienced team. We've been in these situations before, and I think we're ready.

Well, that's true. And they added Drew Holliday. That's Jalen Brown. They added Drew Holliday, which is a stabilizing force and a guy who can play both ends of the court. He doesn't need to be a primary scorer because they've got both Jason Tatum and Jalen Brown. But yeah, if the last two years didn't serve as motivation, you'd have to be worried about these Celtics. Look where they are now at 45 and 12, the best record in the NBA by far, and a seven and a half game lead over the Cavaliers who are sitting in the number two spot.

And then even the Bucks with the talent they've got, they're eight and a half back. So we'll see how this plays out. Celtics, I would think at this point, there's no reason not to make the number one seed, the top seed, your goal.

Why not? I mean, you got to have something to shoot for. I think that that will help with the motivation down the stretch. And we know what the Boston crowds can get. I don't know if they're going to boo Doc Rivers, but, you know, close. So coming up next, we're going to pivot to college basketball.

The games were actually not the top story this weekend. Our friend Jerry Palm will join us a little early bracketology, but can you believe that March Madness is just a couple of weeks away? Selection Sunday is actually St. Patty's Day.

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Can Purdue hold on in Ann Arbor? Braden Smith, top of the key at Mason Gillis. Three is on the way. Triple time!

Thank you, Mason Gillis! Purdue leading by eight with 14 seconds to play. Williams layup no good.

Tippin no good. Re-bounded Braden Smith. And the Purdue Boilermakers are going to win this game in Ann Arbor, Michigan.

This is After Hours with Amy Lawrence. Purdue is on a mission. But it remains to be seen how the Boilermakers will capitalize and maybe take care of some unfinished business or find some redemption a la Virginia style coming up in March Madness. But we are so close to Selection Sunday and to the, I gotta say, the coolest three weeks in sports. It's the perfect tournament, the perfect postseason for College Hoops. It's After Hours with Amy Lawrence on CBS Sports Radio. Our friend Jerry Palm furiously doing and redoing and redoing and redoing some more his brackets as we get closer to this Selection committee and the Selection show.

And he joins us this morning. I hope it's not because you're redoing a bracket at this hour. No, I was actually able to redo it last night before I went to bed because the games ended early and the NCAA got the net rankings out until I was able to make tweaks last night. Now you, as someone who's been doing this for a long time, you're really well able to track what happens going towards Selection Sunday.

But for people who aren't familiar with your work, what do you average? One wrong per bracket? Oh yeah, one team out. Yeah, I miss one team a year, I guess you'd say. What?

Stop it. Every once in a while I'll get them all. I can't remember the last time I missed two. But yeah, it's usually one team the committee will have and that I don't. So then Purdue, which is your alma mater, but also one of the best teams in the country, had a loss, kind of got stunned.

Was it last week or the week before? And so they certainly now thinking about, you know, just the unfinished business of it all and wanting to take advantage of a team that is still really good. How do you have them in terms of, or how right now are they in terms of overall number one seed? Yeah, they are in my bracket the overall number one seed. And it has to do with the depth and quality of their wins. The committee gave us their top 16 a week and a half ago, and they had Purdue overall number one as well, and then Purdue went out and lost right away at Ohio State.

And then, so then UConn jumped them, and then UConn lost, and Purdue jumped them back. But Purdue, Connecticut, Houston are the top three, they'll be barring some sort of an epic collapse, the top three, again, on selection Sunday in some order or another. It would take, there's an enormous gap between those three teams and number four.

And number four for me currently is North Carolina. There are cases to be made for Arizona, maybe Tennessee can make a case for themselves. It's been a bit of a revolving door, the fourth spot, but there's an enormous gap. There's an enormous gap, like Houston, Connecticut, Purdue would have to lose at least twice before you even think about making them fourth.

What else did you learn from what you found out with the committee and their version of bracketology? Well, they put a lot of value on quality wins, and we saw that with Wisconsin being one of the four seeds, they've had a rough stretch going into that time. They've lost four in a row, but the committee doesn't get into recency bias. We saw it with North Carolina as well as the two, they've been playing poorly going into the show as well. But Wisconsin has got, in terms of like quad one and two wins, at that time, I think they had the fourth most behind Purdue and Connecticut, and I think Houston. So, but they had more losses, which is why there were four, not up there with the ones, but they want to see you beat good competition. They want to see you beat good competition away from home.

So if you're only able to beat good teams on your home floor, you're not going to get seeded as highly, you may not even get in because the tournament, of course, is not being played on your home court. What? No way. Just a refresher, right?

It's been a year. Although there are times when we end up with a home court advantage of sorts for teams. Home crowds, anyway. Yeah, right.

There you go. Being in a city that's nearby or being sometimes in the actual city, how much do the top three teams that you're speaking of get maybe a favorite status or maybe a favorable, I guess would be the word, a favorable status with the committee when it comes to where they play? Yeah, so the three teams at the top, Purdue can be placed in Indianapolis, Connecticut can be placed in Brooklyn, Houston hasn't got a place any closer than Memphis for the first and second round, but the regional would be Dallas. So yeah, some pretty favorable sites for the teams at the top this year.

Of course, the sites are determined years in advance, but it's worked out well so far. In fact, the fourth number one seed the committee gave us was Arizona. They've since lost maybe twice, but they would have fit in really well too in the West in Los Angeles region. So yeah, we had a top four where they could have been in any order and still kept the geographic preference they wanted because there was no competition for. Jerry Palm of CBS Sports is with us here after hours on CBS Sports Radio.

You do in the Bubble Watch last night got in front of me. How much did Wake Forest help itself with the victory over Duke? Yeah, it was big. It was their best win of the year. That's a team that is the like one I was just talking about. They've haven't been able to really get it done off their home floor yet, but don't have any bad losses. We've got nine, I guess, nine losses, most all in quad one and two. Duke is their only quad one win. They beat Florida at home and they kind of go back and forth, but they're a probable tournament team, you know, but they don't really have Virginia. I guess probably going to make the tournament. There's not a lot of probable tournament teams that they've beaten, but Duke was, you know, that's a that's a gold star on the resume, but now they need to show they can do it away from home if they really want to stay in the bracket.

You watch a lot of college basketball, obviously college football too, and we're seeing a couple of these incidents like the Duke Wake Forest where fans storm the court and either a player gets impacted or gets stuck or in the case of Kyle Filipowski gets hurt. This is what he had to say just so people can hear it. Jay, if you want to play Kyle for us, this comes from WFMY News.

Do you not have it? OK, never mind. So anyway, he called it ridiculous.

We'll get to it. Sorry about that. Jerry called it ridiculous and just mentioned that he got stepped on and his ankle got turned and then John Shire talks about it after the fact. I don't know what can be done, but what are you hearing in college basketball in terms of this being kind of a headline and coming to the forefront again? Yeah, you may remember Kaitlin Clark got bumped into and knocked over when Ohio, I think it was Ohio State, stormed the court after they beat Iowa, which is weird.

You don't normally see a team ranked as high as Ohio State women storm the court, but it's ridiculous. Really, it should never happen. Doesn't happen in any other sport anywhere else. You might see a football field storm, but those players are pretty well protected. Yeah, it just shouldn't happen.

And there are drastic steps that you could take to prevent it from happening. Fines obviously don't work. The SEC has been fining schools for a few years now and nobody seems to care. But as far as I'm concerned, you storm the court first time, next game the student section is empty.

Whoa, that's drastic. That's what I'm saying. It's going to take... You have to do something that affects the kids.

Finding the school does not affect the kids. Purdue, my team, has been good now for a few years and has been court stormed, 10 of it the last 11 road losses. And so far it's been without incident, but it's just a matter of time. And you lose... If you're Duke, and I don't know how badly injured Filipkowski is, and you hope it doesn't affect him going forward as he can play, but you could really change the course of a team season by being an idiot and allowing all these idiots on the floor. And that just can't happen. And I don't think schools try. I don't even think they care. That's the problem is the schools don't care. If the students storm the court.

In fact, they use it to market. Hey, look, our fans are having fun. Whatever, come join our fans. And it's just dumb. And actually, according to Kyle in his comments, he thought it was intentional because he felt like there was something to it where once the fans got down there and figured out who he was, that he was getting elbowed and he was actually taking some contact that he felt had a little bit of vim and vigor behind it. So, yeah, it certainly happened. Yeah.

If you got it, I mean, obviously it would be an isolated case. I don't think most fans are out there trying to hurt someone. But if you combine, you know, let's say there's alcohol, whatever. I know people don't necessarily buy it there, but they can come not being sober. And so then you've got some fans who think, oh, I'll take this opportunity, maybe help my team a little bit.

I mean, that it is scary. And I can imagine the athletes are pretty scared, too. You know, you saw guys trying to help other athletes off the court just to get out of the fray, and I agree with you.

I mean, I laughed at this last week. LSU gets fined because the fans stormed the court after it was a late win. The school pays that fine. The students couldn't care less.

Yeah. Oh, and not only that, the school doesn't care. I mean, because the school gets fined and they don't do anything about it. You know, I guess as a school, you'd prefer your team be good enough that your fans don't have to storm the court when they win.

But, you know, I guess you'll take whatever positive energy you can get. And I don't know how much longer storming the court is going to be positive energy, but it is strictly a college thing. You know, I don't know if it happens in high school or not, but, you know, pro sports, nobody storms nothing.

NCAA tournament. You don't see people storming the court, the NCAA tournament. That's, you know, there are ways to figure out how to make it happen. And schools just aren't interested in figuring out those ways.

Well, as you point out, though, these are not home courts. Now, there might be, you know, more fans that are at the NCAA tournament, but they are really strict about security. So is this is this a thing that maybe putting more security? I mean, I like your drastic move there of keeping the student section empty. But what about adding security? Yeah, well, I mean, schools need to do something. They need to make an effort. You know, it's you don't have to have super ramped up security in every game, right?

You just where you could have the kind of you've got the kind of opponent coming in where your fans might want to storm the court after the game. But yeah, it's it's just something needs to be done. My answer is drastic. But if that's what it takes, and that's what it takes.

So I don't doing nothing and or finding the school is not solving the problem. No, it definitely isn't. And we hope it doesn't take someone really getting hurt, like tearing an ACL or something like that in the, you know, something that cost them months. Oh, gosh, yeah.

That would be drastic. It's possible that you're committing actual crimes out there. True. And how possible is it that you can even find the people who did it unless you happen to have a video of it? Right.

That is very specific or you can zoom in on. Jerry Palm is with us here after our CBS Sports Radio. We always like to play the game of first four in, last four in, first four out. So so right now, who are sitting in those spots? Yeah, for me, at the at the bottom of the bracket, you've got it's Utah, Wake Forest, Gonzaga, Mississippi are the last three.

That's actually not the correct order. It's Mississippi, Gonzaga, Utah, Wake Forest. And then the first four out are Texas, Seton Hall, Providence and Oregon. And really, you know, those eight teams, you can make a case for any of them to get in and you could even make a better case to leave them all out. It is jarring to see Gonzaga near the cut line.

Yeah, it is. You know, it's they've got a good team. They've got good players. They're maybe not quite the level of talent we're used to seeing.

But, you know, they're still pretty talented team. They played a good non-conference schedule, as they always do, because they know they can't count on their league to give them the kinds of games they need to be to build a that large profile, but they just did win most of those games until they beat Kentucky. They had won any of those games that helped them. And, you know, they lost it home to St. Mary's. They have St. Mary's on the road at the end of the regular season, which is this weekend for them.

And then the conference tournament. And I think if they get to selection Sunday and their only good win is at Kentucky, that they're not going to make it. And their streak goes back to like 1998 in terms of Michigan State has.

I think the only one that's longer. And they're in a little bit of trouble, too, after losing home to Ohio State yesterday. How much does that speak to the competition of college basketball that you can have a team in Gonzaga that's 22 wins and will probably have at least one or two more and still they could be on the cut line? Yeah, well, it's because they've got, you know, Kentucky to quad one win on the road. They have a couple of games that are quad two, but not teams that are a threat to make the tournament.

San Francisco and Syracuse. Everything else is quad three and four. And, you know, those if you're trying to build an NCAA tournament resume, those games aren't helping you do that.

Everybody's got them. But, you know, that's just, you know, that's most of your schedule. And you're there three and seven, three and six against, you know, teams in quad one and two and, you know, when two of those three aren't really tournament level teams, you're hanging on by a thread. Lots of drama still to come, though. We're getting toward the end of conference play, conference tournaments, which is really the precursor, the hors d'oeuvre, if you will, because I love food, to March Madness.

And then, obviously, we've got Selection Sunday and on into the perfect, perfect tournament. I can't imagine if you could change it, Jer, before I let you go. Is there anything you would change about it?

Yeah, I'd go back to 64. OK, so get rid of the Dayton. Yeah, yeah. I mean, you know, Dayton's great.

That's fun. But 64 was the perfect number. And they're, of course, talking about making it even bigger. No, no. It really needs to be smaller.

It does. Well, see, here's what I love about Dayton. You generally have one of those teams that then wins in the main bracket, too, which I feel like legitimizes it a little bit.

I like that kind of opportunity. Yeah, we've twice had a team go through Dayton to the final four the very first year of the first four. VCU did it.

And then during the pandemic tournament, the bubble tournament, UCLA did it. See, so I'll tolerate it for that reason. But 68 is an odd number.

I'll agree with you on that. So find Jerry on Twitter at JP Palm CBS. And he's got how many times a week do you update your brackets? This time of year, it's daily.

I haven't posted today's update yet, but it'll be up shortly. Well, considering that it's 539 Eastern Time, I think you're allowed a little leeway. I'm Central Time. Okay, it's 439 Central Time.

This is why we love Jerry. Hope to see you soon. Thank you so much for a couple of minutes. It's good to talk to you. All right.

Good to talk to you, too. He's got his latest bracket and bubble watch up on his Twitter again at JP Palm CBS. We almost always make a way to have him in studio, either on the Night of Selection Sunday or at some point as we get closer to March Madness. And yes, it is a feather in his cap that he maybe misses one team, but except that, you know, Jerry, you know, bothers him to miss one team in the 68 team field.

He's awesome. All right. We've got one segment left.

Maybe do a little more on this court storming because it's kind of interesting. When something happens to your car, you might say, no, my car. But what you really need to say is something that can actually help. Like a good neighbor, State Farm is there. And just like that, State Farm is there to help you file your claim right on the State Farm mobile app. So just remember, like a good neighbor, State Farm is there.

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This is After Hours with Amy Lawrence. And therein is the point we wanted you to hear as the Demon Deacon fans storm the court. That's the call on Learfield IMG. Big win for the Blue Devils, probably not marred for them with the storming of the court. And the fact that there was some adverse reaction to it because there has been some talk that one of the Duke players got hurt. We talked about this last segment with Jerry Palm of CBS Sports. And John Shire, who's the head coach now, he played at Duke at the highest level, understands the fervor and the passion of the fans, but he's wanting to see this tradition, if you will, come to an end.

Disappointed we lost. But look, for me, I'm more concerned about the well-being of our guys. Flip sprains his ankle. When are we gonna ban court storming? Like, when are we gonna ban that? Like, how many times does a player have to get into something where they get punched or they get pushed or they get taunted right in their face?

And it's a dangerous thing. I don't want this to take away at all from Wake. They earned it. They deserve the win. Steve is a hell of a coach. I respect the heck out of him and his team.

They're really good. And if this is an example that they need to be in the tournament, what are we even talking about? John Shire, passionate, of course, because if this means he loses one of his top players, even for a short period of time, it matters.

And I think that so often changes the perspective, right? So hearing from some of you who like the tradition, just got this tweet from Spencer, A Law Radio. Storming the court and field is a tradition in college sports. My son plays college football and he was part of a win.

The fans stormed the field. He said he would never forget the win and the celebration. Spencer, I appreciate that perspective.

Thank you for sharing it with us. If your son gets hurt, doesn't that change a whole lot? So I can understand the passion of John Shire and even of Kyle Philipowski who calls this ridiculous, right, and he felt like he was targeted as fans were storming the court.

And that's the other thing, right? As much as I wanna believe it's all just in excitement, euphoria, enthusiasm, supporting the team, not every person has the same altruistic mindset. I would be certain that 90% of the people who are out there who are storming the court are just doing it because it's so cool, they wanna be part of it. Yes, it's a thing in college sports.

If your team is fortunate enough to come up with a win over a top team or a top ranked opponent, something like that, especially in a rivalry. But not everybody keeps that in mind. Not everybody's doing it all in good fun.

Not everyone's doing it because they wanna be part of something special. No, I mean, there are people who will take liberties and there are people who are not sober. There are people who are out there and will take a shot at a player or will, I guess, take no regard for that player's safety.

Shaka Smart's been around college football for a long, college football, sorry, college basketball for a long time. And he kinda has a different perspective, doesn't necessarily wanna ban it. I don't know if I would go as far as to say that there's no place for it because it is a pretty neat scene. I mean, and you look at some of the pictures of like iconic wins with people hanging off the goalposts in football or everybody on the court in basketball. So I wouldn't say like a blanket statement, you gotta get rid of it all.

Yeah, that's hard, right? Because you ban a tradition that for the most part is done in straight up joy. And it's not meant to hurt anyone. It's not meant to, yeah, it's not meant to cause damage to property. Again, you're talking about the majority of people who are doing it just because they wanna be part of this incredible tradition and something special and they're carried away on a wave of emotion. But there are people who would damage property.

I mean, no, that's the case. Stuff gets broken and damaged in victory celebrations, right after a team or a city wins a title for the first time in a long time. How often do windows get broken and cars get turned over? And well, that car belongs to someone, right?

It's probably not the person's car who flipped it over. And so people get carried away and that's why you want to figure out a way to mitigate it so that the worst doesn't happen. It's After Hours with Amy Lawrence on CBS Sports Radio. Thanks for finding me on Twitter, A Law Radio and also on our Facebook page. The puppy photos are still coming in. So much more than I wanna get to on this edition of the show. Like Jay's awful travel story, which is gonna have to wait until, because I don't wanna give him just 15 seconds. JFL bad because like three times I said we were gonna get to it. And this is, I should know better by now. I need to be careful what I tease ahead to because we always run out of time. I can wait until tomorrow to relive it, it's all right.

It's still too soon. All right, so we're doing Jay a favor. He doesn't want to relive his travel nightmare. I mean, it's a lot, right?

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