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January 23, 2024 6:08 am

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That's slash grow. I don't know if you have a song or a TV show or a movie or movie series that you could just get lost in and feel like it's a much better world than when you went down that rabbit hole. That's how I feel about Star Wars and really the music can lift me out of any old funk. Not that I'm in a funk. It's a Tuesday morning. We survive Monday, sometimes barely, but we did.

And it's a different type of a week for me, actually, a first in my professional career. I'll share that with you coming up at some point this hour. I promise. Jay, don't even forget. I promise.

How about bottom of the hour? All right, we'll do it then. I'm actually a little nervous, but I'm I think I'm prepared.

I'm ready. Yeah, it's just different. It's something different. A new challenge for me.

I'm excited, but I don't want to mess it up. It's After Hours with Amy Lawrence on CBS porch radio. We're connecting with you always on Twitter. After Hours, CBS or my Twitter is a law radio.

And if you want to vote for TD of the week, we will once again let you hear the candidates, one from each winning team coming out of divisional weekend and making it to the NFL's Final Four. Speaking of Final Fours, both American Coco Gauff, the 19 year old teenager down under, as well as Novak Djokovic, best men's tennis player in the world. Seeking Australian Open Championship number 11, if I remember correctly, and also his 25th Grand Slam singles title, which would be the most all time men or women. I know a lot of people don't include the Margaret Court record as something official because it came pre. Current era of tennis, right?

Just a completely different system. Not nearly as much of the competition is what we get today. The game was so different during Margaret's tenure, but. He still is tied with her at 24 Grand Slam singles titles. I remember Serena Williams tried multiple times to be able to get 24, but she has retired at 23. Rafael Nadal had 22. Novak took some time off, forced time off around the vaccination and his status and his inability to travel to different countries in 21 and 22. Even the Australian Open, 22.

And so no doubt, this is different and this means a little bit more. And he clearly has become a fan favorite in ways that he just wasn't younger in his career. I think partly because people love, love, love Roger Federer. And Rafael Nadal had his own almost cult following as well. And Novak was considered a challenger, a threat to the throne, if you will, for Roger. And then for Rafa too, but they each had their time on top as world number one and then took their turns as the man who had the most ever Grand Slam championships.

It was Roger, who's at 20. Then it was Rafa passing him and now Novak has passed them both. And if you watch him play, he could, I don't want to say easily because what he's doing is not easy. But he could rack up another three, four, five. I mean, he's in such great shape. He rarely has dealt with serious injuries. He takes incredible care of his body. Think LeBron James and his commitment to physical fitness. Think Tiger Woods. I know that eventually his body broke down, but he was so unbelievably committed.

Tom Brady, same thing, right? And so these guys have remained relevant in their careers for so long because of the discipline, the type of discipline that most humans just couldn't, we couldn't maintain. But he absolutely has been able to keep up his physical fitness. He's in incredible shape. He can withstand what is right now the heat down under and just did move on to the semifinals by beating the last American man still in the draw.

That was Taylor Fritz, who took a set off. And by the way, if you'll excuse me for just one second, the computer is unplugged and it's about to lose its charge. Hold on.

Just talk amongst yourself. I had enough. No, I had enough floor. I think you're going to have to get it because I can't leave the chair.

What are you eating? You're busy eating in there. My systems is required. Your assistance is required, please, because the court is on the floor. And unless I'm going to get up, walk around the desk, which is an enormous desk, you have to go in the middle.

All right, I'm on it. All right, here comes producer J. He's going to make a ton of noise as he comes in the door. Speaking of making a ton of noise, I mentioned tennis here briefly, but it was a night on the NBA hard court in which there were some pretty noisy individual performances. And thank you.

One of those came in a win for the reigning perfect. Thank you, producer J. What does the message? The warning has gone away. Your battery is running low. Please recharge now. I was fearing the dreaded blue screen.

Thankfully, the blue screen of death did not pop up on the laptop. Even as I look up, by the way, Joelle Embiid is on one of the TV screens in front of me. So yes, Joelle Embiid, reigning MVP, got a little bit crazy, a little bit nuts. And as he's doing it, as he's wrapping up a career performance, another center in the NBA is closing in on that exact same number. Of course, his situation got blasted by their coach.

I hope he didn't take it personally. We shall explain. Oh, and then there's Kevin Durant, who hits a game winner after the Suns are down 25 points, right? I saw that correctly. They're down 25 points in a game against the Bulls.

They come all the way back. He hits the game-winning jumper, and then postgame finds out about these two pretty incredible performances. So why don't we start with the MVP, Joelle Embiid? Joelle against McDermott and Osman, a double on the right side, gets around him, met by Collins, drops it, lays it off the glass, backwards it in. He had his back to the goal, and three Spurs were around him.

And it didn't matter. He's got 24 points. Spurs had the hot early start.

Now they're in jeopardy of falling down by 16. Embiid with another layup, up and good. On the move, the catch down low, timeout San Antonio. Now Joelle, double left to the key, three to shoot, three-point shot by Embiid. Got it.

It's good. 59 points for Embiid. Here comes Maxey to Joelle. Joelle, top of the key, another jumper straightaway and in. And the crowd just basking, loving this performance by Embiid. 65, one of the greatest scoring performances in the history of this iconic Philadelphia 76ers franchise.

That's Tom McGinnis on Sixers radio. So yes, Joelle Embiid against Victor Wemenyama, who, by the way, had a paltry 33. Joelle goes off, and because the Spurs were hanging around, hanging around, because they refused to just give up and watch and wave the white flag, well, Joelle was still in there in the fourth quarter. Embiid and David Robinson with games like that, Embiid with a ball after a steal, Joelle drives it down the lane, left-hand layup, it's up and good. 70 points for Embiid.

133 to 118. Court lane drive, left-hand layup, a 70-point game for the Sixers. Star Joelle Embiid. And Joelle is going to come out, Paul Reed comes into the game, Sixers leading by 15, and Joelle Embiid leads tonight's game as he motions to the crowd. 70 points, and they're calling it a franchise record as Embiid embracing his teammates and the assistant coaches.

70 points. We've been through a lot, but this is nothing. This is just another accomplishment.

Obviously, you want to get the whole thing, and that's why we walk into walls. We got a long way to go. Joelle Embiid calls this a small step for the Sixers.

This is a total tangent from my spaghetti plate brain. One of the historical events that I desperately wish I had been alive to witness and old enough, I mean, I wasn't on the planet. Kind of funny considering the moment, was when man walked on the moon when Neil Armstrong delivered his iconic line. So as I was saying, one small step, I'm in my brain thinking about one small step for man. I don't want to watch space videos.

Oh my gosh, some of the podcasts slash documentaries done about the moon landing. Oh, epic. Anyway, that has nothing to do with Joelle Embiid, but that is what popped into my mind. This is how my spaghetti plate brain works. You pull a couple of strands off, you twirl them around your fork, you pull them off the plate and all kinds of others.

It doesn't make that noise. All kinds of other spaghetti comes falling off the plate too in my jumbled up thoughts. Anyway, thank you Mac Jones.

Mac and I see eye to eye on the food. Joelle goes 24 of 41 from the floor, 21 of 23 from the free throw line, ends up with a franchise record 70 points, a season high 18 rebounds and he is the ninth in NBA history with a 70 point game, which is pretty incredible. And yeah, to have a front row seat for it, Nick Nurse, welcome to the Sixers. He can score in so many ways and just like his sheer size gets him a lot of stuff around the basket and gets him a lot of free throws, you know, and then the shooting touch and all that stuff is, is the skill part that that makes it, you know, again extra hard to stop him. He's a fantastic player, you know, obviously in the running for MVP, that's for sure, but everybody already knew that. So it wasn't, it wasn't a surprise at all, but he's, he's wonderful. He's playing such an all around game, doing a great job.

Greg Popovich makes himself laugh with talking about how Joelle Embiid is in the running for MVP. Are we already talking about that? It's mid January. Although as I look at the computer right now, thankfully I can still look at it since producer Jay plugged it in for me again.

Thank you. It's January 23rd. What the heck? Where did January go? I was going to say before the show, actually when I was looking at stuff, I saw NBA mid season grades.

I was like, what? How is that possible? Man. And I know we always are a little bit late to the party in the NBA, in the NHL. We follow the storylines, follow the headlines, but a lot of times because it starts in late October, there's the World Series at that point.

And, uh, and NFL is just getting good college football conference play that it gets lost, but how could we possibly already be at mid season? Whoa. Okay. So the Timmerwolves who we'll talk about coming up are 43 games in.

So yeah, they're past the midway point actually. Whoa. As in, whoa.

So I guess the fact that Greg Popovich made himself laugh is really only because you don't hand out the MVP mid season. It's inappropriate. It's definitely inappropriate. Thank you. It's after hours here on CBS Sports Radio. So congratulations to the Joel Embiid franchise record. 70 points is phenomenal and it was fun to watch. And it came on the anniversary of Kobe's 81. For those of you, of you who remember it, I do. I was working that night. So I vividly remember watching it at my previous network and seeing it unfold and other hosts that I was working with producers. And it quickly became the story, his 81 points.

All right. From Joel's 70 to 62 for Karl Anthony Towns and the Minnesota Timberwolves, who are the best team in the West, except it didn't quite finish the same way for Cat. Week side rebound to Kyle Anderson.

Towns rumbles down the lane to the cup. He got an easy bucket there. It's been a struggle here in the fourth as he had missed five of six shots.

But now he's hit and he's up to 62. Rozier to Leaky Black to the corner. Smith open for three in the lead.

Yes, sir. Hornets are on top 120 to 119. Unbelievable. Towns switches on to Terry Rozier at the high post. He rolls towards the basket, goes up, loses it. Steal Leaky Black, who's fouled with 1.7 seconds left. The Hornets steal it from a Superman effort tonight from Karl Anthony Towns. Kyle Anderson will inbound. They send it to Towns. Towns logo three for the tie.

No! And the Hornets have won it on the road at the Target Center. LaMelo is five and one against Anthony Edwards. And despite a career high 62 from Karl Anthony Towns, it's the Queen City wearing the crown tonight. Just doing my job, but I really just wanted to win. I feel like I feel it hurts. You know, you want you want to be able to have one of those nights on the win. You know, having a night like that on a loss doesn't feel very good, historic, whatever you want to say. It doesn't make me feel happy about the night we had.

Well, and the finish is tough too because he was two for 10 from the floor in the fourth quarter and only had four points. And after being up double figures, the Hornets come roaring back as you hear on both Timberwolves and Hornets radio. Now Karl says or Kat says he was just doing his job and it doesn't feel all that great.

You don't want to celebrate it. Oh gosh, head coach Chris Finch goes the opposite other direction. He's teed off. He's ticked off. He's PO'd about the lack of defense because Charlotte shot nearly 60% from the floor. It was an absolute disgusting performance of defense and immature basketball all the way through the game. So it really didn't slip away.

It had been there from the jump. So this is what happens when you have this type of approach. He was not having it. He felt like the Wolves got caught up watching the show and weren't paying attention and taking care of their business.

Obviously, we're going to try to feed a hot hand, look for a hot hand. But at some point, we got to get back to making the right play. We got to get back to doing the right things. Like I said, there's a lot of ways to be immature. There's always a lot of ways to be immature. And there was a lot of immature performances here throughout the roster. We totally disrespected the game ourselves. And we got exactly what we deserve.

Chris, did you also see, did it turn into Carl trying to hunt a big number? Yeah, but for a while it was going. But down the stretch, it kind of dried up for us. It says that the Timberwolves stopped looking for the right play, looking for the best play, the highest percentage shot, and instead just got caught being lazy, essentially. Not playing defense, figured that they were just going to ride the hot hand. And as long as Kat was scoring, well, who cares what else is going on.

And then in addition, when he ended up kind of losing that touch or when the defense collapsed on him, it became a little harder and nobody else stepped up. So yeah, a livid Chris Finch. Not generally what you would expect to hear from a coach after a player sets a franchise record and scores 62 points in a game.

Oh dear. It's After Hours with Amy Lawrence here on CBS Sports Radio. Always good to connect with you.

Good morning to you on this Tuesday. You can find us on Twitter, After Hours CBS. If you want to vote for TD of the Week, that will be, well, that poll will run through our show tomorrow.

But that will be a little easier when you hear the candidates coming up following this next break. Anthony Edwards, he admits that they were too busy watching the show and wanting him to add to his point total. Once he hit his first six seven shots, I think everybody was pretty much just trying to see him go get 100 points. I knew I was.

He got hot. So I think all of us, as what is it, 15 of us in here, we all 14 of us wanted to see him get 80 or whatever it was. So I think, you know, we learned we're gonna learn from it, though. All right, so forget who wins the game or what happens on the other end of the court. This is kind of what the NBA has become at times. Standing around and watching or feeding the guy who's draining the threes and who cares about whether or not it's the best basketball play or whether or not you play defense. I mean, gosh, defense is optional. It seems like a lot of times in the NBA. Speaking of that, and I did not see this whole game, but I did see the end after the Phoenix Suns come roaring back against the Bulls. Allen inbounding, looking, gets it to Nurkic.

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Call 562-314-4603 for complete details. They come from down 23 to make it their biggest comeback win of the season. Now doing last week's comeback against the Kings and the Suns have won their sixth straight game. Everybody in the gym knew the ball was coming to me and especially Caruso. He's such a smart defender. He jumped at him and DeRozan, I think kind of shadowed it a little bit out of bounds pass.

And Nerf made himself available and we work on that backdoor so many times in game and practice. So I've seen Caruso flying too. So I had a double pump just a little bit. I'm glad it went in.

Yeah. Watching the play even now is I can accurately describe it. He did take his defender out toward half court and then back doored it to be able to get open for the pass. The pass was at the top of the key. He has to kind of duck underneath the defense because Caruso is attempting to block it. So as he's up in the air, he has to kind of duck. So he calls it like a double clutch. But yeah, like literally slides the ball to the left to be able to get off the shot while he's in midair. Really talented with, I think it was like a second and a half left to go. And the Suns, why they have to be so dramatic?

It's pressure because I'm one of the best players to ever play the game. A flare for the dramatic. So then he finds out about Joel's 70 and Cats 62. Seventy? Yeah, 70. So what did nights like tonight mean in the NBA? Sh**.

I think I have 40 a half. I mean, the skill level in this league is insane. And actually the coaching, the schemes on offense is insane. You're seeing so many different sets being run for bigs to get threes. I mean, coaches are being way more creative to put their best players in great positions to get those numbers. And you got shooters all around the floor.

You got penetrators. I mean, this is the peak of basketball in my opinion. You're seeing it with guys doing. I mean, come on, man. I bigs. I got bigs in the league getting 70 and 60, making 9, 10 threes, shooting pull-up jump shots.

I mean, it's insane what we got going on. I mean, he's not technically a big or he doesn't play a big, but he is 6'11". I mean, he's an athletic too.

Good for him. I know he's dealt with some injuries, but he's still got great athletic ability. So, a banner night in the NBA, but don't tell that to Chris Finch. Alright, coming up, not only did I promise to tell you why this is an atypical week for me, but you're candidates for TD of the Week and a little bit of QB news in here as well, because there's a lot. There's a lot going on. Like Baker Mayfield.

What happens if he hits the free agent market? Oh, it's after hours with Amy Lawrence on CBS Sports Radio. You are listening to the After Hours Podcast. To cast your vote for the TD of the Week, head to at After HoursCBS on Twitter or give us a call at 855-212-4227. The Baltimore Ravens. High formation likely. The tight end who was acting as the pullback moves to the right. Justice Hill in the backfield.

Off the play fake. Jackson rolls to his left. Ball to his left.

Inside the tent. Out of the five. Into the end zone. Touchdown Lamar Jackson. An eight-yard touchdown run. He has two rushing touchdowns. Two passing touchdowns.

The San Francisco 49ers. Here we go. Purdy under center. Juszczek offset left. Coming in motion, Warner. Next to Kittle.

Tight right. Juszczek goes right. Purdy takes it. Hands off to McCaffrey off the left side. Takes a tackle. Touchdown San Francisco!

The Detroit Lions. Jared leans in. There's the snap. Jared back. Jared looks. Jared throws right side. It is caught. Touchdown Detroit Lions.

Amen-Raz St. Brown. Jared Goff with the delivery. 14 with the catch. And the Lions with an extra point. Can double up their lead with 6.22 to play.

Man, Dan, look. He's dropping dimes, nickels, quarters. Jared is dropping it all out there today. Beautiful pass from number 16. What a drive by the Detroit Lions that time. What a drive.

When they needed it. The Kansas City Chiefs. Goal to go at the four-yard line for the Chiefs, trailing 24 to 20. Pacheco running back. Chiefs will use the shotgun. Motioning left is hardening.

They give it off to Pacheco. Slamming on the left side. Angling into the end zone. Touchdown Kansas City. Pop goggles the sweet neck through the end zone. And the Chiefs are back in front.

26 to 24. Oh, my goodness. The moments. I love reliving those and hearing them. First of all, Lamar Jackson with four touchdowns, but his second TD run.

The crown. Tom McCarthy on Westwood one with that call. The others were the local radio calls. So Isaiah Pacheco with Mitch Holtus on Chiefs radio. That was the go-ahead touchdown. The only points in the fourth quarter for Chiefs and Bills. In the NFC, Christian McCaffery has that go-ahead touchdown with just over a minute to go. The long rush. I guess it wasn't a long rush, but it came after a long pass play and a connection with Brock Purdy.

And so for them, for the Niners, that was a real test because they had to rally against the Packers. Speaking of them, by the way, Debo Samuel, question mark still for the NFC championship. They don't know whether or not they will have him because he missed a couple of games earlier in the season with a micro fracture in his left shoulder. And even though there's not another break, there's still some pain there. So they're waiting, hoping for good news from him. Greg Poppa on Niners radio.

Sorry for the tangent. And then Dan Miller, our friend Dan Miller on Lions radio. Jared Goff, Amenrah St. Brown, one of the great duos in football this season. So you can vote on our show Twitter after our CBS or on my Twitter A Law Radio on our Facebook page too.

It's After Hours with Amy Lawrence. So about a half hour still to go. Want to get to some QB news because Josh Allen, CJ Stroud doing their exit interviews, so to speak, on Monday. And we also heard from Todd Bowles about Baker Mayfield and heard from Matt Lefler about Jordan Love.

And then there was something else that I thought was interesting, just the timing of it. Cleveland GM Andrew Berry answering questions about Joe Flacco and his future and also giving an update on Deshaun Watson. So yeah, we're down to a handful of quarterbacks now that are either speaking or even at the team facilities. We'll preview championship Sunday as we get through the end of the week. So I got to say my previous show is really going to be condensed into the Thursday night slash Friday morning because I will not be here Wednesday night. I got invited to be the keynote speaker for a women in sports seminar that's hosted by the Peach Belt Conference in Augusta, Georgia. So first for me in Augusta, Georgia. Yes, we will be driving by Augusta National.

The assistant director of the Peach Belt Conference, her name is Diana, she's the one who reached out to me. She told me there's not much to see. You drive by it, we'll go slow, you can take a picture.

But really, if you blink, you'll miss it. You can't see much from the outside, but I got to say that I was there. So when I fly to Augusta on Wednesday, going through Atlanta, heading out to Augusta, well, I'll get to see it. Anyway, on Thursday morning is the seminar, or it begins with panel discussions and kind of their version of speed dating, where the various female college athletes and coaches and others who attend can meet different panelists and have a chance to spend a few minutes with them and ask them questions. And then my keynote address will come after lunch. It's crazy to say, I know, because I speak to college classes all the time. Heck, I teach a college class at Syracuse.

I'll be doing it again this spring. And I talk four hours a night on the radio. But it's a little bit different when you've got people staring at you. You're on a stage and they're at tables, or I'm not exactly sure how it's going to be set up, but I would assume tables. And they're all staring at you and just looking at you.

This is not over a Zoom call. This is, which I've done some of those, those are kind of awkward too. Teaching classes over Zoom, you have no idea if people are paying any attention whatsoever. So, yeah, I get invited to speak to college students a lot.

Most often it's in a class setting, though, and this is a little bit different. First, one of these events they've held since before COVID. They're really excited, still counting final numbers. But last I knew, just athletes alone, it was going to be 70 plus. So I'm really excited about that.

But also nervous, want to make sure that I make the most of the opportunity. So Jay, what are the chances, I've been taking my notes and making my outline and all that stuff. What are the chances that I don't have enough to fill up 30 minutes? Slim.

Slim to none, I think. You think they'll give me the hook? They'll start playing music in the back? No, not necessary. I don't even think they have a song ready to be played in case that's an issue.

No, you don't think so? You think anyone will yawn? I'm sure they will. No yawns.

They've also got classes and sporting events and stuff. But I'm really excited. I'm honored that the Peach Belt Conference would reach out to me and would invite me to be the keynote. I am feeling a little bit of pressure.

There are some nerves, but I'm really looking forward to it. And if you want to know more, this is kind of fun actually. They asked me for a quote, just a couple of lines, to share why I want to be part of this. So they put it up on social media a couple of weeks ago, and I didn't share it until just yesterday. But I'll retweet it now, ALOL Radio, if you want to see why this is important to me and why I am nervous about it because it matters to me. And Jay is going to put it up on our Facebook page as well.

Oh, it's up. He tells me. My goodness, he plugs in the computer. He fixes Internet issues. He posts on social media. I wear many hats around here.

I wish you would wear more hats than the one that you are wearing currently. All right, coming up, we'll sneak in some QB news. Good morning to you.

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Hey, but he said it. This ain't done. We come back next, we're ready to go. And turn it up a notch. Cheese on three, one, two, three.

Cheese. Murray back to throw. And it is.

Is it lost? Oh my goodness, it's on. DeAndre Hopkins calling. Baffert from under center. Steps back. Throws the fake. Cooper comes, got it. Touchdown, L.A. Burrow back to throw. Looking, firing deeper. Chase in the end zone. He's got it. Touchdown.

Joe Burrow in the bangles. The holmes fires for the end zone. Caught. Touchdown. Kansas City. And off to Ekler again.

No. Herbert keeps it. End zone. Touchdown.

Charges. Herbert with his second of the day. Here's the snap. Caught. Gonna keep it himself.

And run it again inside the five. Into the end zone. Touchdown Buffalo. Josh Allen, nine yard touchdown run.

The Bills respond and then some. It's time for QB News on After Hours. Patrick Mahomes in the visitor's locker room. That's cold.

Hey, they got what they asked for. Meaning the Chiefs in their own building. About as cold as the water in their locker room, according to. The offensive lineman, Donovan Smith, the Bills turned off the hot water in their locker room.

Now the Erie County officials deny it. They say there's absolutely no way to turn off the hot water in your locker room and not in the Bills' home locker room. But the Chiefs just feel like they were the victim of a petty bit of revenge. Best serve cold, if you will.

That was sweet. After Hours with Amy Lawrence and QB News here on CBS Sports Radio. Yeah, we often have to deliver eulogies and the Bills in falling to the Chiefs are out early yet again. And so Josh Allen meeting with the media on Monday and he believes the window for the Bills is still wide open. All signs are still pointing up with this team. I know it feels bleak and there's probably going to be a lot of change, whether it's personnel, guys coming back, guys not playing. Again, that's all speculation.

That's nothing that I know, nor can I, you know, focus on. Does that change include offensive coordinator, interim offensive coordinator, Joe Berry? Well, he really excuse me, Joe Brady. He really wants Joe to stay in his position. Love Joe. I love what he brings to this team, to our offense, the juice that he has, the passion he has for football, how much preparation he's put into, you know, a tough situation these last seven to eight weeks. I understand there's probably an interview process and and all that, but he's got my vote. I knew I was going to do that at some point, say Joe Brady or Joe Berry instead of the other. Of course, Joe Berry, the Green Bay defensive coordinator who also received a lot of attention this season. So we'll see what happens, what changes are made. Josh also stumping for Sean McDermott to remain as the Bills head coach.

I don't know that that's a question, but I suppose anything can happen. It was certainly a painful exit for the Bills yet again, this time at home. Texans not in the same position because they're one of the youngest teams in football, a rookie head coach and a rookie quarterback. And C.J.

Stroud, 4,100 passing yards this year, 23 touchdowns, only five picks, five picks as a rookie, plus a passer rating of over 100. And he doesn't care what people think. He just loves what he gets to do on a regular basis. I wasn't necessarily there myself as a guy with a chip on his shoulder. I just think I'm me, you know, like I don't really try to, I used to be in the business of proving people wrong and people pleasing and stuff.

That stuff is exhausting and it don't make no sense. So honestly, man, I'm really going to be just preparing for what we got going on here. It's encouraging when you have a young guy who's able to grow not only the entire season, but to see him grow and take the coaching points and grow from week to week and see a guy improve so quickly. It's encouraging to see how much better he can get as he continues to play throughout the league. But that's one thing I'm all about is growth. How about that wisdom from C.J. Stroud just finishing up his rookie year? It's exhausting to spend all your time trying to prove yourself to people and live up to expectations. I like that.

That's so true. A lot of wisdom coming from a younger guy. C.J. Stroud! It's after hours here on CBS Sports Radio. While we're talking about teams eliminated over the weekend, Baker Mayfield throws a game-ending interception, gets picked off by Derek Barnes of the Lions, and now he's a free agent, as is Mike Evans. And he has said he wants to stay in Tampa, but he doesn't want to be there if Mike Evans doesn't return.

Certainly makes a lot of sense to me. So that's the big question for head coach Todd Bowles. Well, what if Baker hits the free agent market? I'm pretty sure it would be in demand. I don't know to what aspect it would be in demand. Obviously, the money plays a lot in part in free agency, and loyalty plays a lot in part in free agency, and actually who wants you and where you can go and what you can afford plays a lot, and how you see yourself in certain systems.

So it'll be a tricky thing. He was great here. We love him to death.

Hopefully it works out for us. Unbelievably gritty, man. I think I've said it all year. So much respect for Baker. The amount of injuries he's played through.

The adversity that he's faced. He never flinched. Every day, the same guy. You know who you're going to get on game day.

No matter when things are going bad on the field or really good. He's the same guy. Nothing but respect for him. It was a hell of a year for him, too. I'm happy I got the opportunity to play with him. I hope that continues. With that, Todd Bowles and Chris Godwin raving about Baker Mayfield.

Hello. You don't hear Todd Bowles use sentences that long ever. And he raves about Baker and how he would be in demand if he hits the free agent market.

Wow. Also, Mike Evans said it was the best team he's ever played on. And he just spent three years with Tom Brady. So he was speaking about the character of the locker room.

And now that Baker's kind of thrown his hat into the ring as long as Mike is there, the question was asked of Bowles about Mike Evans leaving in free agency. I don't even think about it. I don't like to be asked about it. I don't want to know about it.

And I hope to hell that does not happen. Enough said. It's a mic drop from Todd Bowles. I would feel the same if I were in Tampa.

All right. Talking about the Green Bay Packers, also eliminated in the NFC over the weekend. And Jordan Love throws a late interception too, picked off by Dre Greenlaw for the second time. Matt Leflore, how did your young QB learn from the experience on Saturday? One of the things that I think he's done such an unbelievable job with is just every situation he's been in, he's learned from it. So I would fully expect that to be the case after this last game. And there was a lot of great moments in the game. Certainly it didn't end as great as we wanted it to. And I just think, you know, a lot of players, when you get in a position, when you're down, you try to make the big play. You try to make it. But you can't force it.

And I think that's kind of the lesson from that. Even older quarterbacks throw picks at the wrong time. Asked Joe Flacco, 38 years old, started for Cleveland in the playoffs. Andrew Berry, do you want Joe back?

He says, well, I sure do, but got to make sure it fits correctly. He played winning football for us. He did a great job of coming in and really playing at a high level that allowed us to go on a run at the end of the year. Played really good football in December, even if maybe we ended a little bit with a thud against Houston in the wildcard round. But really pleased with what Joe did on the field, pleased with who he was as a teammate. No doubt they raved about Joe Flacco as well and all the experience. But, of course, Joe, like a lot of the other quarterbacks who ended up this weekend, those mistakes, those interceptions coming back to bite you. So we'll hear more from the football world, the football universe, maybe hires, all kinds of crazy stuff that we'll have in store for your hump show. Have a great Tuesday. It's After Hours, CBS Sports Radio.

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