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That's 855-212-4CBS. Lots of questions in the NFC South, even with the surprising run of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. Mayfield takes him straight to the line with a minute forty. Baker leans in. There's the snap. Blitz comes.

Mayfield back loads goes by the lines. Derek Barnes. Oh, baby.

One thirty three to go. The Lions are going to San Francisco. Derek Barnes with the interception. Oh, baby. Stand up for field. Look at this. Look at this. First career interception for Derek Barnes.

And how big is that? Yes. It sucks. I feel like my heart just got ripped out. But it's football is a complex game, but it's also simple. It comes down to taking care of the ball. And in two minute drives like that, when you know you're going to have four downs to use, just a bad, bad mistake by me. And it sucks because I know what type of group we've had all year that we fought to get to this point. We fought to be in that game.

We weren't supposed to be here by any measures, but we believed in each other and we fought for it. And so, yeah, this one's going to weigh on me for a while. The voice of one Baker Mayfield, who throws the pick about 90 seconds to go his second one and to have Derek Barnes come away with that interception. Huge for the Lions. It will be a play that is forever immortalized with the Detroit Lions franchise and the fan base, but of course, ends the run for the Buccaneers. And you hear Baker, his body language matching his words following the game.

It's After Hours with Amy Lawrence. And we are pleased to welcome Greg Almon, who covers the NFC South for Fox Sports. Used to be with the Tampa Bay Times, covered the Bucks for a long time solely.

So why don't we start there, Greg? Now that it's all said and done, how would you describe the Buccaneer season? You know, I think they exceeded expectations, even their own. I mean, I think outside there was not much expectation of anything for this team. You know, I think people, it was kind of easy to see that Brady was gone. They had limited spending and replacing him.

And so he expected a big drop off. I think most people did in a bad division even. So no, for them to, you know, to get another division title and then, you know, win a playoff game, you know, in a year where you're really kind of taking your lumps financially with some of the salary cap pitches they ran, it's pretty impressive.

Why did they exceed expectations? It can't be as simple as Baker Mayfield, though I know he's part of the equation. Yeah, Baker's certainly part of it.

And he's probably, of all the newcomers, the biggest part of it. But, you know, I think, you know, Brady retired. But I think, you know, so much of the team that won a Super Bowl in 2020 is still around, you know, defensively.

You know, I forget what the number is. I guess it's seven starters defensively that are back from that. So I just think, you know, that kind of laid the groundwork for a team, you know, having high expectations and expecting a lot even without the leader they had. I mean, you know, this past year, you know, when Brady placed these in Tampa, wasn't necessarily a great year for him. And I just think kind of left behind the Seth of our high, you know, I think that what Tom always knew was, you know, even a down year still can be a playoff year, you know, and I think, to some extent, I think that's been left by him here in Tampa. This is just four years in a row in the playoffs, three division titles, but that's as long a run as they've ever had here as franchise. It's the only team in the NFC to have been to the playoffs four years in a row.

One of them was a losing record last season. And this year, they were fighting the whole way. So it speaks to, if nothing else, the culture of the franchise that they're just willing to battle it out to the end. Yeah.

Oh, yeah. And this is a team, you know, you go back, you know, there are four and seven at one point. So I mean, that's one of those where there's very few teams, period that have lost six out of seven in a season and made the playoffs. So I think it speaks to, you know, being able to kind of weather the highs and lows and stay together.

And that's kind of the biggest part is to recognize that, you know, you can get back into it, but it's not going to be easy. They did that really well. I mean, they won four in a row to kind of get back on top of the division. And even then, I mean, if you think about, you mentioned, you know, them being eight and nine last year and losing in the first round of the playoffs, I think it would have been really easy to duplicate that and not accomplish much besides hanging a banner. So I think for them to win another game on top of what they did last year and then to win a playoff game, I think definitely separated things. And even Sunday in Detroit was a loss, but it's a loss that's a one score loss, you know, where they had the ball with two minutes to go and a chance to tie. So I think the fact that they stayed in in these games and kind of fought to the end, if you will, speaks well to who they are and how close they were this year. Greg Elman covers the NFC South for Fox Sports after hours with Amy Lawrence here on CBS Sports Radio. So often when a team falls out of the playoffs, and I think it has to do with expectations, the first gut reaction is, oh, fire the coach, it's time for a change.

And yet we're not hearing any of that around Tampa. How did this team find stability, not just post Brady, but post Bruce Arians with his abrupt exit? Yeah, that was a lot to change there. You know, and I think the first year that both had, because the coaching change happened in March, kind of later in the year, it wasn't necessarily entirely his team, the way you think about a new coach having a team. So there were some tweaks to his coaching staff after one year, made some changes on offense. Dave Canales is the new coordinator here, and that was probably the biggest change. You know, I think having a second year with Bowles as the head coach, you think about a team carrying a coach's disposition and mentality and demeanor and all that. And I think this is probably a little closer to a Bowles team as opposed to an Arians team that Bowles took over this season. I think that's a big part of kind of the forward progress maybe that made them a better team in 23. Bowles has been steadfast in his support of Baker Mayfield. In fact, he called him, I think it was a warrior earlier in the season. Why does Baker fit with the Bucks?

Yeah, it's been neat. And then obviously Baker, you know, he's a guy, you know, former number one overall pick, certainly had every opportunity there in Cleveland. And, you know, it was unfortunate for him that they wanted to upgrade to Deshaun Watson, you know, and that obviously has worked a certain way for Cleveland the last two years.

But Baker, if you look back to 2020, that was definitely probably the best that Baker had been, leading a team to the playoffs, career highs, I think 27 touchdowns that year. So when he came here to Tampa, I mean, I think there was an awareness that could be what, you know, what he's capable of. But if it didn't work out, if he didn't turn things around, this was probably his last chance to go into a season as a starter for a team.

You know, you kind of run out of those opportunities eventually. You know, I think he still had to beat out Kyle Traskier wasn't necessarily given to him. But I think there was a recognition that, you know, you get this guy for $4 million. You know, it's about the low end for starting quarterbacks to be and I think he had a chance to reestablish himself and show that he can be a starting quarterback. And, you know, I don't think people expected quite the bounce back year he had to, you know, reset career highs and passing yards and passing touchdowns.

And a lot like 2020, lead a team back to the playoffs and then win a playoff game as well. What do we know about a possible deal for him, Mike Evans and some of the other key free agents? Where is the team with them? Yeah, just four or five big free agents.

That'll be a priority for them. They have the cap space to get most of them back. But it's definitely starts with Mayfield. I mean, this is one where I think we'll make about $6.8 million with incentives this year and we'll be in line for so much more than that.

So it's just a matter of figuring out what I guess what a contract is that makes him happy. I don't think it'll be as high as some of these big quarterback deals in recent years in terms of Daniel Jones and some of the other top tier. I think a lot of people will point to Geno Smith on the deal he got last year from Seattle.

That was basically $3.75 million. You know, I think Mayfield has an awareness of wanting to keep the best players around him too. So I don't think he gains much if he gets a massive contract but doesn't have Mike Evans back or doesn't have Antoine Williams at Winfield back.

That's definitely something he's been aware of and even publicly kind of said, hey, if he's back, he wants Mike back and he recognizes that sacrifice is going to have to be made by everybody if they want to keep everything together. So it's not just Baker. Again, Mike Evans will be easily the best receiver in this free agency class. If he gets out, Antoine Winfield's probably the best safety in this free agency class.

Those three are huge. And then you have Leontae David who's played his entire career here. He's 33, so that's a little bit different. And then Devin White is probably the one that's most likely to get away as a former first round pick and a big part of their Super Bowl team three years ago. But somebody who's really kind of fallen off a bit this year and taken a step back, didn't even really finish the year as a primary or starting linebacker. Does Mike Evans want to stay in Tampa?

Yeah, very much. He's played his entire career here, 10 years in one place, talks about how I think he knows how rare he is to get to, especially a receiver, to spend your whole career in one place. I mean, you think about that 14 draft class that he's a big part of and everybody's bounced around. I mean, you've got Brandon Cook and a bunch of guys that are on four, if not five teams. And really for a while it was just him and Devontae Adams who stayed in one place.

And even Devontae now has obviously moved on from Green Bay. Again, I think he's very prideful, wants to be paid like a top tier receiver in the NFL. You know, just finished out a five year deal that paid him about $16 million a year, which is fairly low by top tier NFL receiver standard. So I think it'll be more than that. It's just a matter of if he wants it to be $25, $27, $28 million kind of in that Cooper Cup range. It might have to be with another team.

I don't know if the Bucks are in pitch to pay that much, but they very much want him back. This is an iconic player here in Tampa, probably the best offensive player in team history, has completely rewritten all of their receiving records, already has all the career marks for yards and touchdowns and receptions. The game he had Sunday, I think he had 147 yards Sunday, basically the best receiving playoff game in Bucks history. I think he has the top four receiving games. It's like it's one of those where the record book is him and the ones that aren't him. Chris Godwin probably has half the other ones.

So they've kind of rewritten the books here a little bit. Yeah, he's definitely one of the best. And he and Baker developed a rapport pretty quickly, it seems like. So you can understand why Baker definitely wants him back. Greg Almond covers the NFC South, not just the Bucks for Fox Sports. And he's with us here after our CBS Sports Radio. Let's talk about the Falcons because I think at last check they had interviewed 14 different candidates for head coach. What's the latest on that coaching opening?

Yeah, casting a wide net and not afraid to go after the kind of the biggest fish that are out there. I think Arthur Blank has always kind of been an ambitious owner as NFL owners go. So Jim Harbaugh is in that group. Bill Belichick is in that group.

And then also now pretty much the top assistants that are available as well. I think once Belichick got a second interview, there are a lot of people that thought it might be his to lose or kind of his job, if you will, which is wild. You think about Belichick, his entire you think about the last 24 years in one place, 10 Super Bowls, six wins. And the Falcons as a franchise have never won the Super Bowl.

And the closest they came obviously not winning it was because of Bill Belichick in 23 and that came there. So it'd be wild if that's the pairing. But they've continued to interview a lot of other people since then.

Ben Johnson and Bobby Sullivan. I mean, the list of it's pretty much a who's who of the candidates who are available. And I think that speaks to this being a team that, you know, is really close to being a playoff team and probably just needs a coach and be a quarterback.

And that's two big ones to check off. But I do think if they can find the right guy at quarterback, the rest of this team, you know, lines up like a playoff team, especially in the division and, you know, it's fairly up for grabs. You can see why a lot of coaches are interested.

What is Arthur Blank looking for? Yeah, he's really said, I mean, they talked about having head coaching experience be a priority, which would that would definitely lend itself more towards the veteran in this group, whether it's Belichick or Jim Harbaugh or even Mike Vrabel, whose son was on the Falcons team this past year. They've pointed those things that I don't think they've locked into that. I think they've talked to some of the best assistants that are out there that are young, that are not even 40 yet and would be a departure. You know, I mean, I think they had gone young offensive assistant three years ago when they brought in Arthur Smith, and that didn't necessarily work. It's really easy sometimes for these NFL teams to kind of like a rebound relationship where you go from the opposite of what you had before. If you had an old defensive coach, you go with a young offensive coach and you kind of do the opposite of what you did that didn't work the last time. But I do think there's a desire to stay on the offensive side. We've seen that on most of the young assistants that have come in. But if you look at Houston, if you look at D'Amico Ryan, that's a defensive minded coach that was able to find the right assistant and really cultivate a great, you know, young quarterback and develop CJ Stroud into who he's been this year. Greg, we know now that the Panthers have promoted a former player to their GM position.

What's their next step? Yeah, I mean, there's still five other openings, five openings in the NFL right now. So they're still one of the least, you would argue, one of the least attractive jobs that's still open just because they have an owner who's fired three coaches in six years from a talent standpoint, not a very talented team this past year. It's exciting to have a young quarterback in Brighton, but you didn't have the year that you expect from a number one overall pick, 11 touchdowns against 10 interceptions. So I think for someone to take this job, A, they have to buy into Bryce Young.

They have to be sold on. Bryce being somebody they think they can take a big step forward with. And then, you know, also turn things around in a city that hasn't had a lot to be excited about, has gone a couple of years without being meaningful, without playing playoff football. You have to hope that David Tepper is a little bit more patient as an owner, just because, again, this is three times in his six years he's fired a coach in mid season. So I think there's going to be some consternation from any coach that comes in. Just wondering whether they'll all have the time to get the turnaround the franchise needs.

Greg, Almond covers the NFC South. We're working our way through so much transition, so many question marks. And I would say Bryce Young, at least from the national perspective, is still a question mark. What was your opinion of his rookie season? Not the splash you want when you trade up so much that they traded to get the number one pick.

DJ Moore and multiple first round picks, including the number one pick in this draft. I think there were flashes you saw the end. I mean, it's one of those where you go two and 15. You're not going to have a whole lot of signature moments and exciting moments. But I think the end of the Packers game, even though it was a loss, was probably where he broke out and really showed something. I think he threw for 167 yards in the fourth quarter. Two touchdowns.

Didn't ultimately win, but kind of did all the right things. They had so few legit downfield threats on that team that I think it was a lot of short passes to Adam Phelan, DJ Shark. Their rookie Jonathan Mingo had to moment.

But for the most part, in terms of yards per attempt, this is the worst offense in the NFL. So you have to hope that that's not something that's scarring for Bryce Young. For somebody that only lost three times in college as a starter, to go from that to two and 15 is a pretty jarring adjustment. But again, I think what you saw in Bryce was certainly a maturity, a leadership aspect that's hard to appreciate when you're losing as consistently as they lost.

But I think there's not a shortage of people that still believe in him. I mean, Todd Bowles had them in week 18 and Bowles was ridiculously complimentary of Bryce Young. Just talking about how he still thinks he's going to be one of the best to ever do it at his position, which is hard when you've seen so little flashes of dominance in that first year. That leaves us with the Saints. And so before I let you go, Greg, what is the biggest question facing them this offseason now that they've decided to keep Dennis Allen?

Yeah, that was kind of the big thing. I mean, this is a team that is going to have some issues with the salary cap. I mean, they're about, I think, winning the offseason about $88 million over the cap.

This is something they've done before, but it's going to take a lot of maneuvering and restructuring and probably losing some of the better players just to get under the cap. But no, I mean, it's one of those where this was a veteran group, you know, defensively finished nine and eight. That's a tie for the best record in the division, just behind the bucks on a tiebreaker, but it finished the year well. I mean, Derek Carr probably had his best month in the final month of the season. I forget the finals, but it was like 12 touchdowns against two picks maybe in the last four games.

Came out and really, really beat up on Atlanta in the last week of the season in a rivalry game. So I think there's a little bit of positive momentum there. They're an older team on defense, so they're kind of defying the odds to have guys like DeMario Davis, Kim Jordan still playing at a high level at 36 and 34. They need some of those younger guys on defense to start clicking and start paying off. They need to draft well.

But no, this is another thing where, I mean, they made nine and eight. They're a tiebreaker away from winning division title. They don't have to worry about a first place schedule. So they'll be right there, especially if they can take a step forward on offense. I mean, they've made some changes on their offensive staff where there'll be new coaches in place there. If they can get a full season like the final month that Derek Carr had, there's a lot in play and a lot of talent that can get that team to really contend not only for the division, but for making a dent in the playoffs too. Definitely wondrous variety in the NFC South.

So many possibilities moving forward and so much change. You can find Greg on Twitter at Greg Alman, A-U-M-A-N covers the NFC South for Fox Sports is based there in Tampa. Greg, thank you so much for a couple of minutes. It's great to catch up with you. Oh, sure. I mean, we'll do it again.

Thanks for having me. Where is the latest Intel on the Falcons and their coaching search and they are surfing the field and what Arthur Blank is looking for. The Panthers obviously are meticulously slow, but I love what Greg says about how there are so many other jobs open still with the Panthers having some extraordinary challenges, starting with the owner. Any of the guys who are in running for more than one job may not want to take the job in Carolina until it's the last option.

Now that's playing a gamble, you know, playing a game and gambling in a way that might leave you on the outside looking in. And then in New Orleans, questions about the defense, but they also finished above 500. So good stuff there, mostly about the Buccaneers and the season that exceeded expectations. And now what for Baker Mayfield and I like what he had to say about the range, the deal that might be offered to him. But also, did you catch what Greg had to say? It won't be Daniel Jones money.

You know, the elite quarterbacks like that. All right. On Twitter, a law radio also after our CBS, if you ever need the link to our podcast, it's up every weekday morning on both Twitter and our Facebook page. And speaking of Twitter, I did just share the link for Tyler Bass's chosen charity. It is in fact one that supports adoption for felines.

Good for him. It's After Hours with Amy Lawrence, CBS Sports Radio. You are listening to the After Hours podcast. It's a touchdown Tuesday on After Hours. To cast your vote for the TD of the week, head to at After Hours, CBS on Twitter, or give us a call at 855-212-4227. The Baltimore Ravens.

The San Francisco 49ers. Here we go. Purdy under center. Juszczek offset left.

Coming in motion, Warner. Next to Kittle, tight right. Juszczek goes right. Purdy takes it. Hands off to McCaffrey off the left side. Breaks a tackle. Touchdown!

San Francisco! The Detroit Lions. Jared leans in. There's the snap. Jared back. Jared looks.

Jared throws right side. It is caught. Touchdown Detroit Lions.

Ahmin Raas. St. Brown. Jared Goff with the delivery. 14 with a catch. And the Lions with an extra point can double up their lead with 622 to play.

Man, Dan, look. He's dropping dimes, nickels, quarters. Jared is dropping it all out there today. Beautiful pass from number 16. What a drive by the Detroit Lions that time. What a drive.

When they needed it. The Kansas City Chiefs. Goal to go at the 4-yard line for the Chiefs, trailing 24-20. And the Chiefs are back in front 26-24. One touchdown from each of the four winners. Each of the four teams still standing.

And you can vote for after hours TD of the week. Lamar Jackson with four touchdowns. Two through the air.

Two on the ground. And if you're wondering, that game is re-airing right now on NFL Network. 100 yards rushing as well.

So pretty impressive for what many consider to be the presumptive NFL MVP. Ravens hosting the AFC Championship Game. You hear Jerry Sandusky with the call. Against the Chiefs, Isaiah Pacheco with the go ahead touchdown. In fact, the only points in the fourth quarter of Chiefs and Bills early in the fourth.

That's Mitch Holtus. Then you've got Christian McCaffrey, Greg Papa on the call for Niners Radio. And that was the late drive for the San Francisco 49ers against the Packers.

This is a minute to go. We're talking about clutch as Brock Purdy and the weapons around him step up and regain the lead against Green Bay. And then finally Detroit history in the making. Now one win away from the Super Bowl. Of course they'll be on the road for the NFC Championship. But Jared Goff hearing the serenades from the fans there at Ford Field. And another really impressive second half for he and the Lions offense. And that's Dan Miller with the call on Lions Radio. And Dan a guest of course with us last week when we had history for Detroit and that home game that was won in their own building.

Awesome stuff. So you can vote on Twitter after hours CBS or on my Twitter A Law Radio. And also still Monday MVP is live. And we'll take whatever vote you like to cast. Some of you choose write in ballots. You think that we are woefully inept in picking our options for Monday MVP and TD of the Week.

So it is your prerogative to be able to write in some votes. Keeping our eyes on the quarterfinals of the Australian Open Novak Djokovic and the last male American. That's Taylor Fritz. He took the second set actually. He broke Novak in the opening game of the second set and then on serve the rest of the way. So they're even at once at a piece. But Novak is mad now and is making fairly quick work of the third set.

He's already up 4-1 over Taylor. I had enough. This is what happens. He finds another gear and people get left in his wake.

So we'll keep you updated there. Also if you didn't see what happened with Coco Gauff earlier also in the quarterfinals of the Australian Open. Pretty sweet comeback for her. Even as she was on the ropes in the first set. So she was facing multiple set points against her challenger Marta Kosciuk. I'm asking Marco Belletti with my eyebrows up in the air. Is that how you pronounce her name? I have no idea. Kosciuk.

There is a website though that they'll pronounce their own name. That's helpful in these situations. It was one of those matches where there's just lots of errors on both sides and early on it was Coco who was down. She was on the ropes. She actually had to save two set points. So could have dropped that opening set but then came back from down 5-1.

Earned the opening set on the tiebreaker. Ended up having to go to a third set anyway and it was more than three hours of tennis. So you can imagine she was exhausted and she was interviewed on court on Australian Open TV after the match and I'm not exactly sure who was asking her but the question was about the heat and whether or not that had anything to do with this match and how she started but also if it had any impact on her as the match stretched on. I'm from South Florida so I'm used to the heat.

It's pretty even hotter at home to be honest. I was just trying to get one more game in the first set and at least make it competitive and then one game turned to another and then I was able to win that set and then in the second I put myself an opportunity. I think I got a little bit passive so when I came out in the third I was just trying to play aggressive and hit through the court because I knew if I left something standing she was going to take advantage. This is really cool for Coco and she's obviously gaining a lot of fans around the world but to see her come back in this particular situation and claim a spot in the semi-finals sure she's the fourth seed but she was on the ropes and a lot can be made of her not giving up in that first set even and then fighting her way all the way back she's she's got a lot of spirit a lot of heart and it was great to see it on display. Happy really proud of the fight that I showed today Marta is a tough opponent every time we play it's a tough match and yeah I really fought and left it all on the court today. Looking for her second consecutive grand slam championship because she won the US Open last fall and now is on a streak of 12 consecutive matches won in these grand slam tournaments and I love this from from Coco Gauff I'm not sure exactly how they got to this point but she was she is someone who sticks to a routine like a lot of athletes do and part of her routine is that she eats fruit salad during changeovers she'll grab some fruit as well and it's part of how she grew up as a younger well she's still fairly young a younger tennis player. Growing up when I was training at academies my mom or my dad mostly my mom would pack up coolers for me so I could like be able to practice all day and they consisted of like fruit snacks or fruit applesauce and Gatorade so yeah I mean why change something that always works I know a lot of people like to use the gels and the fancy stuff but I just like the natural fruit so yeah that's what I've been eating on the changeovers so far I never really get tired even after a long match so it's been working fruit and pd light is the secret weapon. She's cute and and she's fierce on the court she's happy I love her smile and I love the the radiance and also just love her tenacity she's the total package and maybe now just now coming into her own but still just 19 years old which is crazy but good for her it'll be fun to see her in the final four as well into the semi-finals and yeah we're keeping our eyes on Novak and Taylor Fritz at Rod Laver Arena right now there's been a lot of complaints about the fact that these matches go so late Australian open time so Melbourne time some of these matches ending at three o'clock in the morning down under it's good stuff for us we don't mind of course because we get to watch them live but the other thing that happens is they're trying to navigate heat right and so with it sometimes being extreme temperatures on a hard court they're okay with with matches starting later. Before we get to your update Marco Balletti I saw that you grabbed a piece of sound from the Korean broadcast team that called The Mist by Tyler Bass so you tell us what folder it's in because we want to play it while you're sitting there okay so producer Jay never mind he found it he's resourceful we're stealing this from Marco he found this piece of audio this is awesome Oh my gosh their reaction was pretty much the same as many football fans all around the world yeah I don't speak the language so I don't know if there was a wide right after all that screaming but yeah I'm sure both fans are like in any language that sucks I don't hear it oh yeah same as the reaction in my living room when I yelled oh no no no I couldn't believe it and yet some part of me could actually believe it I gotta be fair I didn't think he was hitting it I know it's only 41 I just didn't everybody seems to forget that there's pressure there's wind like that that was not it's it's a kick he has to make on this level I get it I just didn't think it was a gimme I don't know it's not a gimme you 40 plus yards and well I think I get it in this day and age every kicker seems to be 99% from you know 45 and in and you only expect them to miss and even that it's got to be 55 plus and we're always kind of like oh wow we just assume because kickers have gotten so good so I guess and I get it in that regard but in that moment and that pressure and that environment I didn't think I didn't think he was gonna make it before he kicked it I wouldn't have been stunned if he did I just didn't expect him to make it so if you're wondering about Tyler's charity it is called the 10 lives club it's cat adoption and finding homes for felines and so I just did share the link a friend of mine Louise pass it along with the link and get this more than $25,000 in donations from football fans presumably on Monday so Bill's mafia showing up yeah it's really nice especially with all I mean look he doesn't deserve all the nonsense that came along with that no one does no vitriol look I understand frustration come on let's let's take a step back and also let's not put it on the one kick you had how many millions of opportunities in that game let's let's not put it on the one kick so many so find it on Twitter a law radio our Facebook page too you can vote for TD of the week and Monday MVP and Josh Allen speaking on Monday it had to be a manic Monday for him he didn't sound like that but I bet he felt like that you are listening to the after hours podcast and there is the last kneel down and that will do it the remaining 25 seconds will tick away as the bills are only left thinking about what could have been as their arch nemesis in the playoffs strikes again the third time in four years Buffalo's postseason is ended prematurely by the Kansas City Chiefs sucks losing sucks losing them losing anybody at home sucks losing sucks I don't know what else to say this is after hours with Amy Lawrence oh so dramatic that's actually the first time I've heard the final call from Chris Brown on Bill's radio it's painful third time in four years if you haven't heard Dawson Knox I think there's some hope from the Buffalo tight end but also there's this air of are you kidding me this can't keep happening so yeah he's thinking about Kansas City Chiefs next year and I guess that's where you have to put your focus I've gone to the AFC Championship every year since I've been in the league so just you know they're at that top of that mountain that we want to be at so in order to be the best you got to be the best and I think you know next season we definitely want to be that team so definitely a little groundhog's day feeling and I can't really put my finger on one thing or one particular thing we could have done differently but we got all the talent in the world and I know that this team is going to be motivated as ever coming off of this one a groundhog day feeling ouch I'm sure it's the same for Bill's mafia and probably some of that for Josh Allen as well though to have to sit up in front of the media and talk about it again I give him credit for doing it it's surreal on the bright side we woke up this morning right more we're all here losing losing is never fun it's it's a part of the game it's the worst well second worst part of the game obviously injuries are the worst part of the game but it's the reason why you play this game is because you don't want to feel this way but when you do feel this way it makes winning all that much more special and you know this isn't something that we're going to run from it's not something we're going to hide from you know we got to we got to take it on the chin and continue to learn and get better and I know that doesn't it's not what people want to hear they want to see results we want to see results we're just like just like you guys we want to win you know and that's that's the fact and at the end of the season there's one happy team and we're going to keep fighting and keep working as hard as we can until until we are that one team there's a little more with Josh Allen that we'll get to in the second half of the show but Todd is listening in Tampa and wants to weigh in Todd welcome to after hours let's get down to business here I just want to say you know all these quote experts over here on on Jody Mack's show I said the Bucks would be in the NFC Championship game okay and and I like Todd Bowles his name is Todd my name is Todd but he coached a bad game because we should have won that game we was 17-17 at halftime okay and we didn't play at well at all Mike Mike Evans was house and everybody got down there okay and and for everybody to tell you we didn't expect anything and is that they don't know football I know the talent on this team we're the only team standing in the NFC that's got any any Lombardi trophies any any hardware on that team Lavonte David we didn't send him he's the Lawrence Taylor of linebackers and we didn't send him on the blitz we shut Philadelphia down and we and and we didn't play you know our record is indicative when we play prevent when we play zone instead of instead of press man we get clobbered we never gave up three touchdowns in the second half in all season long and it's it's I'm telling the Glazers I'm telling everybody I said we'd be in the NFC Championship game and we should have been there and we were up we lost 27 to 14 to San Francisco when we had the ball at the 9 and the 15 yard line in San Francisco and John Lynch knows he didn't like my dad's favorite player GM of the 49ers he knows he didn't want to see us they're going to run over Detroit and I'll tell you right now John if you don't bring any pressure if you don't what Kevin White's got three defensive turnovers in the postseason we put him on the bench and we put KJ Britt in there it was a terribly coached game I give Detroit credit with the noise and all of that all of the pandemonium over there it was 17-17 at halftime and then we and then we and then with 159 after all that mess we kicked that we could go for two which is so stupid don't give me that go for one well it wasn't stupid and it actually didn't end up mattering right because they they turned the ball over at the last opportunity but Todd I can tell that you're not quite done processing so we're glad to give you some therapy the Buccaneers I believe still have more to give so we'll see what happens in this offseason with their free agent deals never learn more about the new Tucson and blue link plus at Hyundai usa.com call 562-314-4603 for complete details around New Year's we get a little obsessed with changing ourselves and forgetting the things we're already doing right like taking our supplements every morning or scheduling me time into our day therapy helps you recognize those victories and keep up the good work in the new year without changing everything better help offers affordable online therapy so you can 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