After Hours with Amy Lawrence PODCAST: Hour 3

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Most of those appearances by mom predate producer Jay, but she was on the show from her own home, going back to Christmas of 2021. Because I drove to Houston, took Penny with me, took a Comrex with me, which is the piece of equipment we use to do broadcasts remotely. And I was doing it from the super secret location in my mom's spare bedroom. We had the whole thing set up, pillows all the way around the room to turn it into a more of a studio quality sound. And also to mute the noise so that my mom and her husband who were asleep on the other side of the house.

Well, really only a closet and a bathroom in between us. They swear they never heard me, which was awesome. But because I was doing the show Christmas week from mom's spare bedroom, we had her on the show and it was great. So that was the last time. But she was on the show at least three times before that.

And I'm pretty sure two of those have been preserved on our YouTube channel. So if you would like to get to know a little more about mom and her knowledge of sports, well, you can always find those conversations on our YouTube channel, which is named after the show After Hours with Amy Lawrence. So yeah, mom is awesome. This listener then responded with, you should have her on the show after you get married.

Maybe I will. Maybe I'll have her on the show to talk about her impressions of the wedding. So I have this specific song picked out that will not only signal my standing at the back of the chapel, but will be playing as I walk down the aisle. It's a secret.

There are only a couple of people who know. But I chose this song, oh, at least 15 years ago. Just similar to wanting to do a honeymoon in Hawaii. I've known for years that this would be the song that played when I walked down the aisle.

I cannot tell you for obvious reasons, because it has to be a secret from Bob and from everybody else who's in the chapel. Anyway, my mom has been trying to talk me out of it. Because she says she will cry. Well, mom, I'm sorry about that. But this is the song.

I picked it years and years ago. This is the song. And no, no, no, don't do that. You'll cry. Well, I don't think I will. But even if I do, it'll be okay. It's an event, a long awaited answer to prayer worth crying tears over. So if I do cry, well, then it's okay. But what about your makeup?

No, you can't play that song. Mom, it's not your choice. I'm sorry. In many of the wedding conversations, I have gone with your opinion or have been willing to consider your opinion because I love you and you're my mom.

And you're the person on the planet who knows me better than anyone. But there have been a couple of different situations where I've had to overrule. And this is one of them. The song is your choice. I got to stick with you on that one.

For sure. You got to stay on your ground firm. That's your song. You've had it chosen.

Jay, you know me. You know how stubborn I am. But yes, 15 years at least I've had this song. It's a special song. It's a special moment that you've been planning in your head. Yeah, you got to stick firm on that one. That's the song. And also, like you said, crying at a wedding.

What's wrong with that? That's a happy day. Absolutely. There will be many tears of joy. And I have no doubt I will probably not be able to get through my vows or Bob's vows without crying. My mom even thinks my brother may cry because he and I are so tight and he's going to be walking me down the aisle. So I'm sure there'll be some tears. Oh, absolutely. We're Italian family for half of us.

So we are definitely criers. We're very emotional. But yeah, mom's concerned about it that she will cry. You just got to say sorry on that one. I love you, mom. I'll give you some tissues.

Make sure you have them handy. Did she offer an alternative song or just not that one? I think if it was her choice, it probably would be the traditional wedding march. But that's that was never what I was going to walk down the aisle to. Yeah, I'm not kidding. This song has been it's been hard to keep the secret, too, because Bob wants to know.

Kind of. I don't think he really wants to know. I think he wants to be surprised, but he would like to have a hint or so.

And I just I can't. No hints. No hints. No hints whatsoever. Actually may have told him that it was a song I wasn't sure he knew because it's it's.

It's I wouldn't say it's a pop song or anything, so it's it's unique. It's got some history to it, so I am looking forward to it. I'll tell you after the fact. How about that? That's good. In fact, I'll even let you play it after the fact. OK, OK, cool.

It's After Hours with Amy Lawrence. If you would like to hear your other wedding questions answered or popular frequently asked questions about the wedding, we've got videos for that, too, on our YouTube channel. And I said to producer Jay recently, do you think we'll do one more video before. The wedding actually happens, which is in mid December, and he said, I don't know, I'm not sure we have enough questions, but he did say questions are still coming in.

But then I was thinking, why don't we combine it? We'll do a holiday because we always do a holiday version of Ask Amy Anything. We'll do a holiday version and maybe he'll work in a few more of the wedding questions. I don't think we've ever done a Thanksgiving themed Ask Amy Anything. We did Christmas. We did Halloween mate. I don't know if we did Halloween. We did Halloween themed videos. We did. We did. In fact, we should repost those. Producer Jay and Amy tried to carve a pumpkin.

Yeah, it was awful. We also did a Halloween candy one, right? Yeah, we did a stairway to seven ranking our Halloween candy.

We should repost that. That'll be fun. When I go to the grocery store in a few hours, I would have to be aware of the Halloween candy aisle. I cannot be stockpiling on Halloween candy.

I already have. What kind are you giving out? Giving out is, you know, I meant more for me.

Oh, yeah. But we have some Sour Patch Kids. Where are mine? I don't have any on me. Wow. I should have brought. Holding out on me.

That's on me. I got some chocolate in there with the like, you know, the variety bag that has like the Hershey's, the Reese's, the what are those ones? Cookies and Cream Hershey's.

You don't like those, do you? I'm more of the golden. Oh, yeah. The golden Hershey. Golden chocolate, I mean. So yeah, we got a nice little variety, a little sour, little chocolate.

Wow. Do you get a lot of trick-or-treaters at your house? It varies. I live in like a like development area, so they kind of come in waves. Like these large groups will come and then you won't get anyone for like 20 minutes, half hour. Some years I've gotten a lot, some we've gotten not many. But it kind of varies on the weather too. I suppose I better get some candy just in case we have a few. But I generally, yeah, I'm not a big fan. I'm usually trying to turn off all the lights and act like I'm not home.

But it's a Tuesday, so I don't know how that's gonna go. Yeah, I mean you could put a bucket outside. A couple pieces of candy in the bucket.

I just never understood this tradition of you buy candy and then give it away to people who come up to your door and say, yo, can I have some candy? Yeah, that's essentially it, right? Not much more to it. Yeah, I mean, for those people who don't have a lot of money, like oh well. I guess I'm trying to think of what else in my house I can give them. Um, change.

Right, change. That's also money. I do have some cookies in the freezer, but I don't know how many I have. Plus I don't want to give them away. Oh, I have wedding cupcakes in the freezer. Cupcakes work.

No, I'm not giving away my wedding cupcakes, wedding samples, because my brother and barber, or they have final say, they're trying them this weekend. What else do you have in the fridge? The freezer, you mean? Freezer. Um, cheese. I was going to say that, weirdly. Oh, remember the last time you were at my house, you brought sweet potato fries?

Yeah. I have those. There you go, give the kids some sweet potato fries. As well as some crinkle fries that my dogs that are left. All in the freezer. I guess I could just cook them up and put them on a- You don't even have to cook them.

Oh, stop it. I could put them in the oven, cook them on a tray, and then hold the tray out for people to grab. To be honest, if I was trick-or-treating, and I go to the house, and they had little trays of fries with ketchup, that would just be okay. I would be pretty into that. That would be just okay? That would just be okay, yeah. Oh, okay. Meaning it would be good. Oh, me? Oh, got it, okay.

It's after hours here on CBS Sports Radio. We're weird, and we definitely recognize that. And if you are excited about Halloween this weekend, well, more power to you. It's not really my thing, but maybe I will put some fries on a cookie sheet. I think I love that idea. And bake them in the oven, and then hand them out.

Just say, be careful, they're hot. Would you like some ketchup? It's genius. Thank you. It's a good way to clean out the freezer. Yeah, I got some fries.

I told you last year I had fresh cookies made, and people were eating cookies off cookie sheets. Yeah, that's good. Yeah, I guess I could do that.

I would put on a new mask and come back. The problem is I have a medical procedure on Tuesday, so I do not know how into Halloween I will be. But it might be this weekend. I think more people would probably come on Saturday.

You think so? I don't know. Saturday, Sunday?

I'm not really sure about that. I feel like they're going to come Tuesday. My area, usually it's the day of... But like in the afternoon, right?

Because it's little kids. They come before it gets dark. Yeah, they'll come around like, I don't know, 3.30, 4 o'clock. I'm going to still be sleeping, for heaven's sakes. You got that right. So, Producer J, what did you do to replace Brock Purdy or to hedge your bets against Brock Purdy in fantasy? Well, so actually last week before the games, I picked up Deshaun Watson, who was on my waiver wire before I got hurt and everything.

Because Purdy was like, you know, he was... People were out. I had a bench spot open. I was like, maybe I'll just put Deshaun on my bench, see what happens. But now, obviously, I had to drop him. And now with this new news, my waiver wire at quarterback is pretty thin. I think my best option might be Derek Carr. Derek Carr was available on my waiver wire as well, but you know who I picked up?

Who? I went back and forth between CJ Stroud and Matthew Stafford. I actually ended up picking up CJ Stroud.

I would love that. If he was available, I would take him in a second. But yeah, he's been long gone in my league. Well, he was gone initially in my league, but somebody got rid of him.

I don't... Because he... Didn't the Texans have a bye last week? So maybe that's why. Maybe they picked up a different quarterback because he had a bye and they thought they didn't have a roster spot for him, something along those lines. Yeah, I had to get rid of the Steelers defense because I didn't have a roster spot left.

And now I'm stuck with the commanders, which I may have to go and find a new defense. But either way, he was available. So I thought long term, he might be a better option than Matthew Stafford.

And it's not because I don't think Matthew is tremendous. And he's got some really impressive numbers lately, but because they're playing at Dallas this weekend, I wasn't sure that I wanted to start Stafford because that Dallas defense is so good. So I picked up CJ Stroud and right now have CJ in my starting lineup because the Texans come off their bye and they are... Don't tell me they're on the road at Carolina. So I kind of liked that matchup a little bit. It's a great matchup. I think Stroud might be a better option.

Honestly, even if Purdie gets healthy moving forward. Really? Yeah. I mean, we threw the one interception the other week for his first one. But then two this past weekend. True, forgot about that. But this season, he's shown that he's had the patience. I mean, it's just for fantasy purposes wise, that's not minus points on your roster, which is good. And they throw a lot. So I think Stroud could be a better option than Purdie in fantasy moving forward.

Interesting. I was hoping Dak Prescott would be available, but he wasn't. Although, considering what Jerry Jones said about him, as long as the offensive line is holding up in front of Dak, he is one of the league's best QBs.

I'm paraphrasing, but he did his weekly appearance on our Dallas civilian 105.3, the fan. I think Dak can elevate his play with his supporting cast. And that's trite even almost to say that. But it will elevate his play as we have better execution in the offensive line. We got some things to work on from last week in the offensive line, but his play will elevate as he gets help, which is not help, but as we have less breakdown and more success there. So it's interesting to look at what the Cowboys have done to this point offensively. And there have been a couple of more anemic games, but they are top 10 in rushing yards per game. So that's a tribute to the O-line as well as to Tony Pollard.

They're top five in points per game and also top five in points against, meaning how many points they give up or how few points they give up. And remember the last game against the Chargers, there weren't a lot of points either way. It was a 20 to 17 victory for the Cowboys, and Dak Prescott just had the one touchdown, but he got sacked five times.

So that was a bit of a concern. He didn't have a lot of an opportunity to throw. He got hurried and pressured and another six hits.

C.D. Lamb, that top receiver for the Cowboys, and then it was Tony Pollard kind of using that short passing game as a way to get the ball out quickly. At times, a shorter passing game, you know, guys coming out of the flat or shallow crossing routes, those can even simulate what a run game would do. Something similar in terms of getting rid of the ball and protecting your quarterback. So he did pass for 275 yards, but just had the one touchdown and was under siege a bunch. So just going with that game and what you hear Jerry Jones say on our Dallas affiliate with Shannon RJ, one of five three of the fan, you know, maybe refer to him as the fan. Maybe referring to the fact that Dak saw a lot of pressure, that there was a lot of traffic in front of him. And he did have to extend plays a little bit and he was under pressure, but he still had a fairly high completion rate. And what Jerry is saying is this play can be even better. The offense can have even more options and maybe even have a downfield option more so if he's got more time to throw. But what about the trade deadline?

This might be my favorite Jerry of the week. I like where we are with our personnel today and so I'm not thinking in any way that we need to upgrade our roster. We're good.

We're all good. No trade deadline deals here, but remember he could just be running interference. He could just be sending up a smokescreen to throw other teams and players off the scent.

Don't be ridiculous. The Cowboys are back in play this weekend. They come off the bye and of course the Eagles just took a step back with that loss. And so now you've got the the Eagles and the Cowboys separated by just one game in the loss column.

I'm using my error quotations of course because it all evens out. But the Eagles six and one, the Cowboys four and two and this is strange. I have no idea why. Maybe it's some part of the schedule that was explained somewhere that I just didn't see no teams on by this week. So after six teams on by last week, no teams on by this week.

Why is there some reason for that? I don't know if that's normally the case or not, but I don't think so. I think generally they go all the way through with teams on by. Not sure if it has to do with the international component of the schedule, which starts in November. Don't really know, but every team is playing this weekend.

It could definitely have something to do with the Germany games. Yeah, week eight. That's where we are. You guys week eight. How do we get to week eight and the final weekend in October? I do love October, but I'm always happy when it's over too. Be over October. October over. Take the over in October.

Why am I an idiot? It's after hours with Amy Lawrence coming up. A new hire in the Bay Area and another managerial opening in Major League Baseball. Also, did you wonder whether or not Mad Dog returned to work? Sirius XM Mad Dog Radio. I was kind of thinking there might be an opening over there.

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So what are you waiting for? Follow and listen to Kicking It on the Odyssey app or wherever you get your podcasts. We obviously reached some really high highs during his tenure here and that's I think in a way what makes it so difficult for us to be here and have to turn the page on his tenure. I don't think we did the best job for him but at the end of the day it's part of the business as a team we haven't done a very good job these last two years. This is After Hours with Amy Lawrence. First the voice of Giants President of Baseball Operations Farhan Zaidi who by the way just received a contract extension because there was big news with the Giants on Wednesday but also the voice of Logan Webb who admits that for Gabe Kappeler they're part of the reason why he did not return or will not return to the Giants in 2024 why he was let go.

It's After Hours with Amy Lawrence on CBS Sports Radio. Let's talk about the Bay Area a little bit because there is a new manager in place and that would be Bob Melvin. Wow returning to the Bay Area remember he left the A's and when he did a couple years ago it was thought that he would be retiring. Instead he ends up with the San Diego Padres but after well you want to talk about a surprise year after a year in which the Padres woefully underachieved despite all the money they spent he's decided that he would rather return to the Bay Area. Now there are personal ties there and he talks about those but of course the obvious question is why the Giants instead of the Padres? I really don't want to get too much into the San Diego situation other than the fact that I really enjoyed my time there. Some things transpired last year in a difficult year for the team with high expectations. I think there was a narrative at the end that probably wasn't going to go away with me being on my last year of my contract and I think as far as that organization goes it's probably not fair if that narrative continued through you know next year. All things considered this opportunity came about and you know for all the reasons I stated this feels like the right one for me but I very much enjoyed my time in San Diego.

It just seems like with a lot of things that were were popping up there it just was time to move on. He's been 20 years in the big leagues as a manager and you hear him say that because of some things that happened with the Padres and how tough the year was and with a contract that was likely expiring and wouldn't be renewed then it was the best opportunity for him to move on and not only spare the franchise that narrative but also find something that felt like it was a better fit but that also makes him really happy and you can hear that in his voice when he talks about the San Francisco Giants and talks about the Bay Area and the San Francisco Giants and talks about the Bay Area. This is kind of a surreal moment for me you know I grew up around here as everybody knows a absolute crazy Bay Area sports fan you know whether it was Cal and Stanford whether it was the 49ers and the Raiders whether it was the Giants and the A's the Warriors I was into it all. For me this isn't even something as a kid you could even dream of to to be able to not only play here manage here go to Cal manage the A's it's not something you even dream about so at some point in time this will sink in. I'm going to assume that it was just an oversight in the excitement of being named Giants manager that he did not also include the Sharks in the Bay Area team list. It's after hours with Amy Lawrence on CBS Sports Radio he was telling this story during his introductory press conference of how when he would lead a team into the stadium it's changed names right but when he would visit San Francisco as a manager in the other dugout he would often do a little daydreaming about what it would be like to wear a Giants uniform again right so he would take time to look around at McCovey Cove and he would himself just kind of take it all in and think about this is his dream job his quote was maybe someday hopefully there were always times here I can admit that now that I was hoping at some point I'd come back and now he has a three-year contract and I mean you can hear it in his voice the renewed energy certainly the great anticipation but it's a dream come true for him at 62 years old his dreams are finally coming true to be back here and and and be in an area that to me is so important and the Giants are so synonymous with the city you know it really is San Francisco is the Giants the Giants are San Francisco and I don't think anybody understands that more than I do and no one is going to be as responsible and and caring and and know this matters uh to the city what this team means to the city well congratulations to Bob Melvin what have you done for me lately that's always part of the equation when it comes to managers and coaches there is no job security or very little job security there's only a select few that have earned the right to leave on their own terms or they have the relationship with the owners in which they've earned that right but Gabe Capler took the Giants to a franchise record 107 wins in 21 and had a winning record but three days left in the Giants season he was fired and it seems like this was mutual with the Padres because they granted permission from Melvin to talk to the Giants even though they had him under contract for another year and not looking for any compensation they're just letting him go letting him out of his contract and so it seems neat doesn't seem messy probably is the actual you know you hear the phrase all the time a mutual parting of ways this probably actually was a mutual parting of ways so now there's a job open in San Diego where it's going to take some strong leadership to get them back on track definitely a lot of question marks there and and there's even been some talk that they'll start trading some of these pieces that they spend so much money for so we don't know what that Padres roster will look like in 24. There's another opening and with ties to the Bay Area Dusty Baker longtime manager of the Giants so he had reportedly been telling people that he was likely going to step away from managing and that 2023 would be his last year as a manager regardless of what happened with the Astros and the report came from shoot don't tell me oh the athletic that he'd been telling not just family but actually people inside the Astros organization that he was done after 23 but we didn't have any confirmation from him until Wednesday and so yes he is in fact retiring after after stints with the Nationals the Reds the Cubs the Giants and then the Astros where he finally won a World Series ring he's mid-70s now and his smile still evident still loved loves I'm sure it's not past tense now still loves baseball but after 26 seasons has decided that his Hall of Fame career is is done gosh what he did for Houston that's an another chapter that very few managers would have been willing to take on but not only did he take it on in the wake of the cheating and the scandal and players who were still there who were part of it not only did he take that on but he cleaned it up and he established them again with credibility and with respectability and I've said it over and over there's no way Dusty Baker would allow cheating as much as he is a player's manager and we hear that a lot in fact cool story from Ryan Dempster that we'll share here in a second he wants his guys to feel free to be them he wants them to be the stars he never wants to be the star but he also doesn't want his reputation to be tarnished by something that's happening on his on his roster now people point to him as the manager with Barry Bonds and yes he managed during the steroid era so I guess you could hold that against him but you would have to hold it against all of major league baseball to be sure but this is kind of a cool story from Ryan Dempster from 2006 and and he told it on MLB network Dusty Baker called me up into his office in 2006 about halfway through the season he knew he was going to be let go by the Cubs they weren't bringing him back for 2007 and he looked me in the eyes I never had this happy he said what are your incentives and I said what he said what are your incentives I said I have incentives for games finished because I was closing at the time which they had moved from game starts to games finished well we weren't very good you know what he did he brought me into 64 games finished that year he brought me in every chance he could and guess what it gave me an extra 1.5 in the bank account with some zeros on the end that that's the kind of man he was looking out for his players that's why you hear players manager like to me I never heard of anybody doing that before and the fact that he did did that knowing he was gone like took care of me always treated me great I have nothing to love and respect for him and he deserves to ride off on that sunset onto that farm in California sit there grow his wine play with his grandkids have a great time enjoy it man you deserve it all congratulations Dusty I love that that's just one example of why players really enjoy playing for him but also he's he's won and now he has the last piece of hardware the World Series ring but in his tenure they never failed to reach the American League Championship Series and there's been turnover essentially the entire roster has turned over all but four guys and so I am happy for him he clearly was rejuvenated with this challenge in Houston and they got the best of Dusty Baker he smiled he laughed he told stories he enjoyed himself so he absolutely gets to ride off into the sunset now with with peace and with all kinds of with all kinds of time to practice years to practice his Hall of Fame acceptance speech all right on Twitter ALawRadio also on our Facebook page trying to think what I want to do next you know we've got football coming up on Thursday night so maybe a little bit of diving into Bucks and Bills and where they stand as we kick off week number eight yeah that sounds like fun it's After Hours with Amy Lawrence you are listening to the After Hours podcast too many penalties um I think anytime you're consistently hurting yourself getting behind the chains you don't make your job any easier just simple things you know a lot of a lot of pre-snap penalties for us which is just sloppy you can't have it you need to clean it up I'm gonna watch this film and find a way to to get there whatever it is um and our season's not over it's long season you know it feels pretty bleak right now but um you know we're gonna figure it out this is After Hours with Amy Lawrence what if I asked you the question what do Baker Mayfield and Josh Allen have in common other than being NFL quarterbacks and starting quarterbacks at this point you wouldn't think a whole lot right Josh is a completely different body type he's more like a Cam Newton how big and strong and and I mean he's tough he's he's he's a bulldozer when he wants to be he shouldn't be as much but when he wants to be Baker Mayfield he's shorter he's he's had a different journey now with his fourth team right in the last just over a year Browns Panthers it's been about a year and a half now Browns Panthers Rams and then Bucks you wouldn't think they'd have a whole lot in common their their personalities are very different very different and they're paths to this point I mean Baker was a Heisman Trophy winner and number one overall draft pick Josh Allen not a slouch but there were questions about him coming out of school because of Wyoming right there just wasn't a whole lot that was known about him but other than that even now the way they play football is very different so again you wouldn't think they have a lot in common except right now both their teams are scuffling on offense and get this this is also something you never would have expected going into week eight they each have three losses they have the same number of losses in the NFL that's astounding to me it's not so much that the Bills have three losses because as you hear Josh say there's a lot of season ahead and there is everything that they want is still in front of them but there's less of a margin for error now because the defense has suffered some major defections due to injuries they're a veteran team similar to the Bucks right so they should be able to pull themselves out of this but they're the three-time defending champions in the AFC East and the offense routinely more than once is going two quarters even three quarters without scoring three quarters without scoring how about this 10 points in the first half of its last three games combined you cannot have a slow start like that and Stefan Diggs he knows it they all know it it's not so much you know in one individual you know I think about as a conduct as a collective unit uh we all could be better we all could be better in many ways and things happen out there uh I try not to live in the past too much but more so learn from it each week we learned a different lesson as to why or why not all the things we should do or things we can do to get better I mean definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results so kind of like fine tuning a little bit flip the page just a little bit more and more so just getting into and back to being us so Stefan Diggs Josh Allen they're definitely on the same page there's no more drama there they've got each other's backs that's not a factor Stefan's getting plenty of targets the run game to me is a factor I can't always tell if it's a priority with Sean McDermott or his coaching staff it's it's Ken Dorsey who's the offensive coordinator but can't always tell whether or not they really do want to run the ball or if it's more of a we're talking about smoke screens last segment if it's more of just an illusion here we we're gonna pretend like we really want to run the ball we don't and I know there's been more talk of Josh not taking the risks and scrambling or having designed run plays even though he's as I say a really big body he's a load I don't mind the turnover so much with Josh Allen when they come from a place of yeah being bold being aggressive but there there are some moments and both he and Baker will be in the same place in this regard where you think huh that was a throw a rookie would make trying a little bit too much getting a little bit too cute maybe not using wisdom to know okay this is not an opportunity where I should be going for it and being aggressive and turnovers are a major issue for the Bucks right now six turnovers in their last four games and most recently in their own division for first place Baker throws a pick with three and a half minutes left on the clock something like that and so they're frustrated because they can't put points on the board they're having trouble and they're dealing with the turnovers have dropped back to back games meanwhile the bills while it's not always turnovers it's these slow starts and so Josh and there's been a lot of talk about whether or not he should run less run more they're trying to figure this out what what is their identity on offense trying to get in the playmaker's hands and those guys are a lot shiftier and a lot faster than I am that we have outside so the the more opportunities we can get the ball in their hands the better you know he's the same Josh Allen and that's what you look for in top quarterbacks just you want to be even keel where there's you you have a lot of success or you don't have as much success you want to see a guy that's the same guy each and every day Von Miller good to see him back on the field especially as the defense has lost some key pieces and he says Josh remains the same I mean you know that when you have a team whose leaders are the hardest workers and who care the most who are willing to to do whatever it takes to break out of a slump or to to figure out the problems the challenges you can definitely hear it in Josh's voice every time he speaks now I mean even I wouldn't say resignation but even some frustration when he says hey if we knew what was wrong well we would change it but we don't we're trying to figure it out as well it's after hours with Amy Lawrence on CBS sports radio I I thought this was funny too I we don't have the audio but I'll read you the quote someone asked Todd Bowles about the offense in Buffalo right now Todd Bowles is the head coach in Tampa but asked he was asked because he's a defensive guy right so the defense for the Buccaneers has got what's his because he was the D coordinator before he took over the head coaching job from Bruce Arians and so he was asked about the offense in Buffalo and his response is I don't know what's going on exactly we've got to worry about ourselves more than we worry about them it's true truth coach truth yeah the Bucks have dropped three of their last four the Bills have dropped two of their last three and something's got to give good to know you won't go 0-17 well yes but that can't be your bar that can't be that can't be where you set the bar that's one of the games in week eight that I think has a lot riding on it there's some tension there because it's got so much riding on it but there's obviously many more and this is just your precursor peak at the schedule if you will we talked about Rams and Cowboys Cowboys coming off a bye critical for them they had a lot they wanted to work on but also they're trying to keep up with the Eagles in the NFC East and maybe pick up a little ground now because the Eagles had a loss two weeks ago to the Jets so they've got I feel like I looked at their schedule I'd have to look again and they play in pretty no they don't I take it back I was going to say they play in pretty close to session but they don't they actually play Eagles and Giants back to back then they've got a break before they take on the commanders so they do have all three other NFC East teams coming up in the month of October so Cowboys and the rest of the NFC East they tangle did I say October I'm sorry November they that my apologies they tangle in November so that's a big game for them because then they're going into what is a tough portion of their schedule against the rivals in the division hmm New England at Miami may or may not have Tyree kill that's a big deal he did not practice on Wednesday because of a hip injury that he's dealing with and we'll hear more from Tua next hour Jets and Giants would you say that's a critical matchup Jay would you say that's an after-hours game of the week candidate it's definitely possible is it it's a pretty big game for both teams I'd say well yeah but not not in the scope of the NFL I don't think so I said it's possible I will veto that if it comes up Philly and Washington this weekend Jacksonville and Pittsburgh that's a big one too of course our game of the week 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