7-7-23 After Hours with Amy Lawrence PODCAST: Hour 3

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That's stateofaudio.com. This music seems to go along with my mood right now. Smashed cupcakes, a stressful ride into work, no sleep for a few days or little sleep for a few days. I know, I know I'm supposed to be the perfect radio host every night and not supposed to ever have a bad day, which then translates into cranky pot on the air. But that's where I am right now. So at least it's almost Friday and at least you get real because it takes too much time and energy to pretend to be something I am not.

It's After Hours with Amy Lawrence on CBS Sports Radio. I remind myself it could be a lot worse. It could be a lot worse.

It's not. I have a great job that I love. It is nearly the weekend, a summer weekend. I have plans to kayak with a friend on Saturday. Looking forward to that. Working on a new blog post that will be out this weekend too.

And what else? Oh, payday this morning. So that's always really helpful. Mine is pretty much spent because there's some bills due this time of the month and this time of the year. But all of those things are problems that are, well, they're elements of my life that I'm grateful for.

And the bills are just problems that come along with living life wherever you are, United States of America or anywhere else. So I can't complain about that. I really can't complain about anything. And I would much rather be me and be relatively anonymous than be Britney Spears right now. What a mess. Oh my gosh. You don't hear about someone for the longest time and then boom, just happens.

And it involves the number one overall draft pick from the NBA. This is why what happens in Vegas should stay in Vegas. Just what he needs, right? He doesn't have enough going on.

My goodness. I know producer Jay, you said you're really excited about seeing him play. Now there's even more profile as if we needed more profile. Now the pop world knows who he is.

That's what I'm saying. Pop culture now is all about Victor Wemenyama. More eyeballs on him. Maybe he's used to it because of the international element to all of this, right? So he was used to being famous, famous, but he's used to being renowned in his home country. Plus he's got the height that stands out in a crowd literally and figuratively. And now in Vegas with all the members of the NBA world that are there, no doubt he's had a lot going on. He's got, he's has to have a security team, but there's a lot of people from the NBA who are in town.

Now this. It's just strange how worlds collide and intersect. And it does happen a lot in Vegas.

It's not the only place it happens, but it does happen a lot in Vegas. I respect that he almost, like maybe not got ahead of it, but almost did in a way because I mean the news was out before he spoke about it, but he jumped on it. He spoke about it. He said what happened.

I respect that. I feel like he didn't have to do that. He could have just let it play out and been, you know, whatever she said, he said, she said, but he went on media, met the press, faced the music and he handled himself well. He seems to speak really well and like to talk to the media, which is cool. I believe he's probably been coached well. Plus he's been on national teams for France and has played in international tournaments and a little bit like the LeBron James sensation when he was in high school and was on the cover of Sports Illustrated with the title, the chosen one.

Victor has been along those lines too. A guy who's considered consensus number one overall. Obviously he was, and then a savior of a franchise in this case, the Spurs. I just am curious to know how much info or intel he ever had on Britney Spears before all this happened. I guess he seemed to know, right? Because when he said, oh, I didn't realize it was at first, but then I found out it was Britney Spears.

But he's not speaking in a vacuum though. At this point, of course he knows who Britney Spears is, even if he didn't before or wasn't real familiar with her. Of course he knows who she is now because even before he spoke, remember he said his phone was blowing up and people were telling him. So yeah, he's got all these people around him saying it was Britney Spears, it was Britney Spears. And so now, of course, all you got to do is Google it or look it up online and you know who she is. You got to act like you know who she is, even if you didn't know who she is. True.

True. It's worlds colliding. Like the Michael Rubin all white July 4th party where the world's colliding. Vegas brings together strange elements and walks of our culture. And that was the same thing at Michael Rubin's party, which apparently he's having another one in Vegas.

Did you know that? There's another Michael Rubin party. Shoot, I saw it on Twitter. Not Threads because I haven't yet looked at Threads, but I did see it on Twitter. This party has something to do with a lot of the NBA people being in Vegas.

He's throwing a party for that reason. Here we go. Shams Charanea. I knew I'd seen it on Twitter.

Shams put this out there. Michael Rubin, who is the CEO of Fanatics, obviously a big time sports company and memorabilia company, teaming up with the NBA Players Association. So now it's a joint effort. They've asked Michael Rubin to host a summer league players party on Saturday night in Vegas.

What could possibly go wrong? A summer league players party. They're asking him to host it. His house has become a venue. Well, I think the house, though, that we saw with the party on July 4th was out in the Hamptons on the east end of Long Island. This is just another house that he owns, I guess? Or the NBA PA has rented a place for him to...

I would think maybe not a house. Maybe they're having him serve as a host. Have you ever heard about these things where there are parties, but it's a party put on by an organization and they will bring people in to serve as the hosts?

Have you ever heard about this before? I get it. Okay. Like an award show. It's an award show, but you have a couple of different hosts.

Well, it's something along those lines. If you have a big enough event, this is how the cool, rich people do it. You also have a host a lot of times. An NBA summer league players party put on by the union on Saturday night in Vegas featuring Lil Baby, he'll be performing. Joel Embiid, Kevin Hart, Meek Mill, Wembe, Brandon Miller, Scoot Henderson, and more. Some of the top rookies who are in town, but don't tell me for a second that it won't also feature other NBA veterans who are in town right now.

All of this, and I've still never been to Vegas. Well, what's Embiid doing there? I guess he's one of the vets going?

Yeah. Different NBA guys are there to watch their teams or their rookies play, but also there's a lot of business that's taking place in Vegas at the same time. This is what we heard from Mark Spears earlier, and he's just one example. Jared Weiss, our guest that joined us last hour, was in Vegas too to cover summer league. So it's this confluence of NBA officials, teams, rookies, some veterans. We know there are some guys who are playing in summer league who are not rookies. And then in addition, you have players that show up themselves. A, it's a party.

They're party people. And B, it's where everyone is right now in the NBA world. That's where everyone is. And it's still free agency going on, and let's say for the sake of argument, the Sixers have Nick Nurse in town more than likely. He's part of it. He's at least watching the rookies, right? Scouting, watching the rookies, but maybe also having conversations about James Harden and his future with the franchise. So Embiid went from Michael Rubin's all-white July 4th party to Vegas for another Michael Rubin party, which stands to reason there could be a connection there because Rubin used to be an owner of the 76ers. You think Tom Brady is ready to party?

There's a lot happening. Again, if he was invited, do you think he'd go? Nah, I think NBA rookies are beneath him.

I just meant more. Do you think he's recovered from his hangover? Oh, yes. I'm going to say it's not the first hangover Tom Brady's ever had, and he has recovered from his hangover with plenty of electrolytes. Now, where does that fit into the TB12 method, do you think? The electrolytes? Yeah, no. The hangover. The hangover? Does that cramp your style? Because the report's out there, and we can see the photos from Michael Rubin's party, and actually Brady himself was posting them.

So if he is still working out like a fiend, he's a single dude right now. I have some info on that. Do you? Because I do too. I wonder if we have the same info. It's After Hours with Amy Lawrence here on CBS Sports Radio, on Twitter, ALawRadio, then our Facebook page too. Our YouTube channel also has a brand new edition of our video version of Ask Amy Anything, and sadly for you, there will be nothing in that video version about the Michael Rubin all-white party, and whether or not I would attend, or what I'd most like to do in Vegas.

Why isn't that a question? Why doesn't anyone ask me what I'd most like to do in Vegas when I visit? My significant other used to live in Vegas, and he apparently has taken many trips back to Vegas, so that's one thing he has on me. I hiked the Grand Canyon.

He spent time in Vegas. Which would you rather do? Oh, Grand Canyon. I've done both. Grand Canyon. Have you?

Yeah. What did you do in Vegas when you were there? I was a little too young to really enjoy it. I was like 15, but I was there. Were you surprised? No, but I was 15, but yeah, I couldn't gamble. I just watched my parents gamble for a sec. We were only there. We were in Arizona, and we made a trip to the Hoover Dam, and we just decided what the hell.

It was right there. Let's go check out and see what Vegas is like. So yeah, I remember it, but I couldn't gamble or anything.

I haven't been there as a 21-year-old. Have to have money to gamble, Jay. Well, it's payday. Right. It can be gone like that. Oh, it is.

Every time I look up on one of the TV screens in front of me, it's Britney Spears and Victor Wemenyama. Okay. It's After Hours on CBS Sports Radio.

I won't steal Jay's thunder. I believe he and I probably were about to share the same Tom Brady rumor. Would you like to be the reporter?

Would you like to be the entertainment reporter for After Hours? Is the world ready for this news? I'm not. I didn't think I was.

No, I'm not. So Tom Brady was apparently being very flirty with someone at the party over this week. You know who it is? Is this your way to drag it out and be a tease with someone? He was flirty with someone. Someone.

Kim Kardashian. Is that what you heard? Mm-hmm. So there's some truth to this rumor.

Ew. So apparently Tom Brady- But you're going to have to credit this so we don't get sued for slander. This is just from at ML Football.

Okay. Tom Brady and Kim Kardashian were, quote, super flirty with each other at the Fanatic CEO all-white party. The duo was seen allegedly- Allegedly. Allegedly the duo was seen during the day on the beach together and again dancing at night. Hmm. One-on-one. Oh, as opposed to dancing in a group?

People just walking on the beach together not like, you know, just them two hanging out. Huh. Hmm. All right.

Tom Brady, Kim Kardashian, power couple. No. No?

That's pretty powerful. Okay. That's like challenging Jay-Z Beyonce status. Is it? I think so.

Wait, would you say that about Brady and Kardashian more than Brady and Bungeon? Yeah. Really?

Right now, today I would. She's an international supermodel. And maybe I'm, what's the word, underestimating how big Gisele is outside of the US.

Uh-huh. But just for like here today right now- She's one of Brazil's most famous citizens. I know. She's huge. She's worldwide. There's no doubt.

But Kim Kardashian is pretty worldwide too. And just for, I feel like the today and the here and now- But for what though? For what? I've always wondered this. What are they famous for?

Your father. Is that it? That's it? What else have they done? I don't know. Well, they're worth billions. Models.

I was going to say they're worth billions because of their clothing and makeup lines now. Yeah. They're TV shows. People get famous over TV all the time. Absolutely. They're shows somehow successful.

Is it still on? I don't know. I don't know.

Oh, yes, I do know because don't ask me where this happened. I honestly don't remember that, but it might've been on Twitter. I saw a trailer for the new season of the Kardashians. The new season. As you know, Twitter frequently gives you posts that you don't want and their ad posts or their- Are you saying we should move to thread? Promo.

No. I'm only moving if the entire sports radio industry moves. Anyway, that's kind of the deal is that she and her family are famous for being famous. They're famous, but it's like the Hiltons. Well, Paris Hilton anyway.

She's famous just because of her family, but what did she ever do to be actually famous? TV. Right. Reality TV. I love that show though. Which show? The Simple Life. Stop it. Back in the day with Paris Hilton and Nicole Ritchie.

Stop it. That was a guilty pleasure when I was in freshman year high school. Well, if it makes you feel any better, I watched Jessica Simpson and Nick Lachey on Newlyweds. That's good. That's good. That was the funniest show. I was addicted to it. It's so stupid.

It is a good thing. Okay. New question for the show. What is the guilty pleasure TV show that you are almost embarrassed to admit that you watched?

And you can put EG, as Jay's about to put a post up on Twitter and Facebook, EG, Amy admits to being addicted to the Newlyweds with Jessica Simpson and Nick Lachey. They were goofy. They were so goofy. And even beyond that, I was crushed when they got divorced. You were invested. I was. I was invested. And then once they got divorced, I couldn't watch it anymore.

It wasn't interesting anymore. I really did enjoy that show. It was so goofy and the way they put it together, trying to think if there's any other reality show featuring starlets that I watch, but I don't think so. I watch reality TV, like The Amazing Race, and for a few years I watched Survivor because my brother's family loved it. I never watched Big Brother.

I don't watch any reality TV now, but shows that are not reality, like one of like the older, like like 24. I don't know. What would we call it? Like just like a series. Oh yeah. That oh yeah.

I watch plenty of TV. Just not. Guilty pleasure? No, I wouldn't think that would be a guilty pleasure. I think that you have one. I don't even mean that. I mean more of a show that you're embarrassed to admit that you watched.

Yeah, I have one. Okay. What's that? I watched The O.C. when it was on. Remember that show?

It was classic. I got invested. Do you think there are people out there that will admit to watching Real Housewives of Beverly Hills or Real Housewives of Atlanta, Real Housewives of New Jersey or Jersey Shore? How many people out there watch Jersey Shore? Do you know that I run into people all the time from various walks of life who actually think that's what New Jersey is all about? Anyone who hasn't, yeah, outside of the tri-state area, New York, New Jersey area probably thinks that. Who hasn't been there.

Oh my gosh. That's the whole, you know. Maybe that's why Bob couldn't believe how much green we had in New Jersey. Even though the Jersey Shore is massive and that's the one little spot. It is hundreds of miles, yeah. It's hundreds of miles of gorgeous beaches and that's what people think is that the Jersey Shore is about that TV show. It's like that one square mile of area on the shore that is like that.

The rest is like beautiful beaches and yeah. Boardwalks and history and okay, what's your one guilty pleasure TV show that you're almost embarrassed to admit that you watched? Mine was Newlyweds and I watched it religiously. I was addicted to it. I would watch the marathons on whatever TV network they were on with Jessica Simpson and Nick Lachey. Go ahead.

Fess up. It's After Hours with Amy Lawrence on CBS Sports Radio. You are listening to the After Hours Podcast.

This is After Hours with Amy Lawrence. Jay, Jay. Was that on purpose? Was that a pun?

Hit me one more time. No joke, this might be the first show in my entire tenure at CBS Sports Radio where we've ever played Britney Spears and I don't have any problem with her music or her earlier stuff. Some of her later stuff was so femme fatale, just not up my alley but her original stuff was cute and poppy and fun and yeah, she was definitely right there in that boy band era where it was NSYNC and it was Backstreet Boys and then there were, think about the rivalry with Jessica Simpson and Christina Aguilera and whatever, it was just, it was a cute era of music and then she went through a lot of personal issues and challenges and now she's in her 40s and she's back in the news again, not for posing nude on Instagram. She's not doing that this week. Actually I shouldn't say that because I don't know for sure. No, she probably is. She doesn't make nudes anymore.

I just don't know, James. I'm not gonna, I'm not gonna ask how you would know. Have you ever been on her Instagram page?

It's pretty wild. No, I don't do Insta but I have read things, people tweet about it and no, I have zero desire to see any other parts of Britney Spears, none whatsoever. You don't have to check, it's fine, keep it that way.

It's fine. If I, the question would be, do you go on Britney Spears Instagram account? I had a, well I watched that documentary that came out of, I don't know, a year or two ago about the conservatorship and her father and it was riveting and I got kind of sucked into a Britney Spears rabbit hole because I hadn't checked her out for like, you know, 10 years since she fell off and I was like, wow, this is what she's been up to and yeah, it's, it's a wild place. That's a, that's a rabbit hole, the Britney Spears story.

All right, well on that note, I have zero desire to check it out but for those of you who are familiar, you know what Britney Spears has been up to, long time since she was a pop starlet but now in the news again after an encounter, if you could call it that with Victor Wemenyama, he didn't know, it was more about Wendy's security than it was about her but for some reason now we're, how, how did, this is what happens in my brain. Spaghetti plate for a brain, I was actually talking about this with Bob earlier on Thursday because he's not a great multitasker, I don't know many males who are and it's not a knock, it's just how we're created but men are so good at focusing on the task at hand and compartmentalizing and putting everything else aside, it can be a strength. It's not the case with me or with a lot of the women that I know. My brain is much more like a plate of spaghetti and not like a chest of drawers where you pull out one topic or one thought and then when you're done with it, you put it back. Nope.

When I pull one or two strands of spaghetti off my plate or one or two thoughts out of my brain, a bunch of others come spilling out. So somehow we started talking about guilty pleasure TV shows that you're almost embarrassed to admit that you watched and I'm the first to fess up. I loved Newlyweds with Jessica Simpson and Nick Lachey and I'm not kidding either, this is not a show that I'm proud to admit that I watched like Friends for instance or Seinfeld last year real comedies that I loved.

No this was Newlyweds and it was goofy as heck. Oh I know because we were talking about young women who are famous for no real reason. Yeah Paris Hilton is what catapulted this thing. Famous well Kim Kardashian is and that was connected to Tom Brady if you hadn't heard. Oh Tom Brady and Kim Kardashian. Could you imagine how jealous Gisele would be if he hooked up with Kim Kardashian? Yeah well going back to before he and Gisele were married and I'm not making this up, I actually do have a friend who sat behind Brady and Gisele on a flight one day before they were married. Yeah before they were married. This is a friend of mine that I work with in my previous network, a guy who was on TV himself so I cannot identify him. Anyway he sat behind them in first class and the entire time when they weren't making out, again this is before they were married, he tells me that Gisele and Brady were fighting about his relationship with, remember his previous relationship where he was, remember he had a son with an actress.

Vaguely. Okay he had a son with an actress and they split up when she was pregnant. She's on Blue Bloods in case you're wondering. Anyway so the entire time according to my friend Gisele and Brady were arguing because she was jealous and felt like he was still having too much contact with his ex and that his ex was trying to keep her hooks in him and that yeah.

Wow. She's known, Gisele's known for being kind of fiery, you know I know she does yoga and she's very zen in a lot of her photos but she's known for being kind of fiery and yes. Anyway and she's a very strong personality, a strong woman so that's okay she's allowed to express herself but yes I wonder do you, could you imagine her reaction if Brady somehow hooked up with Kim Kardashian? Well didn't she first, am I remembering this incorrectly or correctly, like shortly after they got the divorce and was finalized, wasn't there a rumor that she was out with somebody famous? Not just a rumor, there were photos of her out with her jiu-jitsu teacher and they were in Costa Rica with or in other cases in Brazil too with her jiu-jitsu instructor and they're so right so my point is yes she's moved on obviously but I still say that if you're an ex hooks up with someone famous who might be more famous than you, now we're debating who's more famous, Kim Kardashian or Gisele Bunchton? I think Kim but it's a debate. They're both models, I mean she models now too, they're both obviously beautiful and rich. I don't know who's more famous, Kardashian or, huh. I could see her being upset and I get it, that's like.

Could you? Gisele, yeah. She's the one that wanted the divorce. I mean but like you're saying, like you just said, if someone who's arguably more famous than you, like oh did he, what did he think he did better than me or that's what she's gonna think right?

But she did it first. The funny part is that we're the ones who are talking about this and we couldn't be more opposite of rich and famous and part of the in-crowd. Yeah the rumors are getting louder and louder so I've started googling Brady and Kardashian oh dear and they're getting louder and louder these rumors and the whispering and the speculation. The rumors are running wild after the two of them spent time together at the Michael Rubin July 4th party in the Hamptons. One source told the Daily Mail as you pointed out they were super flirty, of course you can't just write flirty these days, it has to be super flirty and that they were on the beach together during the daytime, dancing again at night. Not photographed together though, could that be an indication that they did not want to be seen together? It honestly makes it more like fishy that they weren't, where if they just weren't they wouldn't even be thinking about it you know? They're like they almost made it a point, we can't be photographed together.

Ooh reports indicate that, you leave the party first and then I'll follow you a minute later. Reports indicate that Kim is looking for a new vacation home in a neighborhood where Brady has one. This has legs.

This does have legs, it does. The real question though is gonna be is it gonna be car Brady or Bradashian? Here's another question, well I don't even think it's a question, Tom Brady's an update or an upgrade from Kanye West right? In terms of fame?

I don't know about in terms of money though, that's the thing. I don't know. Wait does he still go by ye or yay or yay or ye or yer? I don't know what the hell he goes by now.

He's like persona non grata these days because of some really bad choices and other things that he's done. So yeah I would think that Kardashian would be stepping up and we know she's dabbled in the sports world before with, I forgot his name, Kris Jenkins? No Kris Humphries. Kris Humphries. Thank you.

Humphries Jenkins. How do I know all this? I didn't think I knew that about the Kardashians. I have to keep involved in pop culture because you never know when musicians, entertainers, they love to be part of the sports world and sports and athletes, they love to intersect with musicians and celebs. Why are we talking about this?

This has legs, I'm telling you. What really does stem from the sports world, Victor Wemenyama, Britney Spears, other poplets and starlets, the Michael Rubin party, he's having another party in Vegas. What if Tom Brady and Kim Kardashian are both at that party? Well then it's, you know that's official. You remember the move when you were younger, maybe you didn't, maybe you didn't ever have to use one of these moves but I've heard of these, where you need friends to throw parties so you and your, the person that you like can be at the same party.

Oh you have an open house tonight, invite them and then they will be there, of course. And so maybe that's the case, maybe Michael Rubin is throwing another party so that Brady and Kardashian can both be at the same place. The old one too. Alright we've got some answers, Becca says the bachelor and the bachelorette, I'll watch the very first day to see the outfits and to laugh at the absolute absurd jobs that some people have. James, our friend James, who listens and who will be visiting the show soon, yes newly wedged is absolutely my guilty pleasure show, so good. Well now I feel better because he is in college and I am not and we share the same guilty pleasure show.

Eric says the Jersey Shore, see what I mean? It's a good one. Is it? I can't stand listening to them talk the way they do, maybe it's just Scoopy, wait what's her name, Snooki, Snooki, Snooki, Snooki, she's like tame now. Is she? Yeah she's got like kids.

Oh is that what happens when you have kids, you become tame? I mean for her honestly she did like a total 180. Really?

Yeah. Okay so there's a few, bachelor, bachelorette, newlyweds, Jersey Shore, Jay admitted to the OC. I almost cried when Melissa died at the end. Stop, what if people haven't seen it? That's not the, well it's like a 15 year old show at this point. Oh okay, a 15 year old show. What was the one with, shoot, they still pop up as celebrities every now and then. They were, it was in LA, there was a group of friends, Heidi, Heidi and what was her, oh my gosh, what was her, shoot, they were, they were a couple and they made everybody mad. Now it's going to drive me crazy, oh my gosh. And she's a fashion designer now, the head of the show is a fashion designer. Oh my gosh.

I know what you're talking about too. It's going to make me crazy if I cannot remember it. Yes, is it, I don't think googling LA reality shows will give me the answer. Now it went down to about 14,000.

Yes, I don't think I'll be able to figure out which one it is. Oh, 10 Beverly Hills reality shows. The 32, oh, it started as, oh the Hills, it was the Hills.

I remember that. It started as Laguna Beach and then it morphed into the Hills. And the ones that made everyone mad were Heidi and something, something, it was the dude that was such a jerk. Now I'm googling the 10 best reality shows. Did you ever watch, what was the one on MTV? Real world? Did you ever watch real world where they put people in the, a little, a little bit.

That was a little before my time, but I did check it out. I know it. I know it.

Yeah. Heidi Montag. That's who I'm thinking of, but her, her jerk boyfriend, then husband, I guess they're still married actually.

They pop up in the news every now and then I think, what? But what Lauren Conrad is doing now is designing clothes. She's a fashion designer.

I haven't heard that name in a while. I see her stuff and I'm trying to think where I see it. Kohl's maybe. I think I might see it at Kohl's. Okay. Well, this does have to do with sports, of course, because of Victor Wemenyama and Tom Brady.

Kohl's, the Lauren Conrad collection. See what I mean? Let's see what I mean. Another tweet. I'm ashamed to say it, but mama June road to redemption is my guilty TV show. What is that?

I don't know. How about honey booboo? Do you remember that one? What was the one that got so fame or, or 11 shoot. There was one show on, I don't even know if the network's still out there, but there was the show about the couple that had 11 kids or something like that. Octomom. Oh, Octomom. But then eight is enough. There was one about eight is enough. They had, she had the kids all at once or something. She was, it was some, it was some type of fertility drug and she had eight kids all at once. Remember that one? I think that was Octomom. Oh, was it? And what about during the pandemic? What was the crazy one during the pandemic? Oh, that's Joe.

That's Tiger King. My nieces told me I had to watch that, but I didn't watch it. You should. Honestly. It's one of those things where you're like, Oh no, like I won't buy the hype. It can't be that crazy. I took me a little bit to watch it, but then like you do watch it and it's actually like, what is this? It just gets wilder and wilder.

Like Britney Spears, Instagram account. What is this? It's something. It's something.

Did you put it up on Facebook? I did. Okay. We're asking you because what's better on a summer Friday morning than your guilty TV, your guilty pleasure TV show. But reality TV is what we're asking you about really. We don't want to know what porn you watch lately. We're asking you about reality shows. The kind that if I met you, I would never associate with your personality. And I just admitted I loved, loved Jessica Simpson and Nick Lachey in Newlyweds. I was crushed when they got divorced.

I'm serious. It's After Hours with Amy Lawrence. What a show. You are listening to the After Hours podcast. This is After Hours with Amy Lawrence. Capitalizing on the popularity of the Lachey brothers and shoot, what was the boy band they were in for, um, what was the name of their boy band?

I don't know. Yeah, it was Drew and Nick and there was somebody else in their boy band and he married Jessica Simpson when she was a pop star. And so it was this union of pop stars, funny enough, not funny, haha. But after they got divorced, he ended up marrying an actress who is, she's very successful. And he, so he and his new family, I mean, they're not that new, but they've been married for a while. They are, they live in Hawaii or they are based in Hawaii because her TV show is based in Hawaii.

And so they moved to Hawaii. Meanwhile, she married a former NFL tight end, I think. So they each went from that first marriage to marrying other famous, semi-famous people. But yeah, it was like the big news in the pop world because they got married. He was in 98 degrees.

98 degrees. That's right. See, my, my pop culture memories only go so far back, but I did watch that, what?

They weren't that memorable. I watched that show so religiously. It's kind of sad. So we're asking you, what guilty pleasure TV show are you almost embarrassed to admit that you watch? And a bunch of you are responding on our social, on Twitter, After Hours, CBS, and then on our Facebook page. I'm always cracking up at the responses we get on Facebook because it's such a wide variety of listeners.

So a great cross section of people who listen to our show. Sandy responds with, I was so ashamed of myself when I started watching The Bachelor. The whole idea of the show disgusts me, but I watched it for two years.

Sean says Nashville. Oh, I love that show. That was a great show with Connie Britton.

She was awesome. Adam says married at first sight, not the American version, but the Australian version. It's always chaos and drama. My nieces sucked me into watching married at first sight.

Big jerks. I watched two or three seasons with them. And once you start watching it, you can't stop. They literally get married at first sight. And then the show is what they just, whether or not they make it.

Yeah. They have to walk through a particular amount of time. They go through counseling, they've got group dates and with the other couples and then ultimately they have to decide if they're going to stay together or not. And what happens if they don't?

Nothing. They just split up. But there are some that stay married.

It's crazy. Do they have to like pay for a divorce or? I mean, I think the show kind of takes care of all of that, but married at first sight. Okay.

So that's another one. Big brother says Chris on Facebook. Billy goes with 90 day fiance, which is almost as ridiculous as married at first sight. Matthew as a second grader in, I fell in love with the Brady Bunch. Was that a guilty pleasure? Brady Bunch? I think that was very wholesome actually.

That was very wholesome. That was blended family before blended family was actually a thing. Dan goes with, I have two catfish and cheaters. I know what catfish is.

I don't know what cheaters is. John goes with the original Beverly Hills 90210. Oh, I love that show, but it wasn't reality TV.

It was kind of the opposite of reality TV, but I did love that. Let's see more of you. I'm trying to keep up with your posts on Facebook.

I can't keep up with all of them, but I'll get back to them there. Your guilty pleasure TV show, here's one on Twitter, a law radio Reba. I haven't heard that show in years. Oh my goodness.

It was obviously Reba McEntire, the country music call of Famer. So yes, find us on either Twitter or Facebook and we need, we need company because we're kind of embarrassed to admit the reality TV that we have watched in our past. Hey, do you need some more drama?

There's plenty of drama out there really. We love hit by pitches and skirmishes or strongly worded conversations that ensue. One Oh pitch is way inside. Alvarez can't believe it as he takes a couple of hard steps towards first and towards the mound.

The bench is clear. Buck Showalter is racing out there to get Francisco Alvarez, Tory Lovello's coming out. He has his arm around Joey Cora from the bullpen's couldn't tell if the ball hit Alvarez. Clearly it did, but Alvarez took a hard step towards the mound and then walked his way up the first baseline. What do we get hit two or three more times tonight? We're still leading baseball and hit by pitches, even though it doesn't seem like it, so I'll be just trying to go to first place at a very low pace.

You know, it hurts. He took a ball off the ear, he took a ball off the wrist. You never want to take a ball off the ear, but I think I'd rather take a ball off the ear than take a ball off the wrist, considering what's happened to Mike Trowell. Actually, he fouled a pitch, but either way, Francisco Alvarez, who had the huge home run the night before, remember that, was it, did he tie it? He tied it for the Mets in the late stages against the Diamondbacks and he flexed a little bit.

He flexed on them. Maybe, just maybe, the Diamondbacks were sending a message when he homered for the third straight game on Thursday night and the Mets were pummeling Arizona 9-0 on their way to a fifth straight win and so because of that, at least Buck Showalter and the Mets believe this was retaliation for a little bit too much enjoyment in that home run the night before. Seriously, what are we doing here? I always get so annoyed when there's retaliation over a celebration. Are you kidding me? You deserve to celebrate when you've come up with a big hit that gives your team the lead in the late stages and furthermore, Diamondbacks, if you don't want him celebrating, then don't give up the game-tying home run in the top of the ninth inning. Dumb. It's all dumb. By the way, Francisco Leondor, he was sick. He needed IVs and then he went out and he had, what, a home run and multiple triples. It's After Hours on CBS Sports Radio.