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That's betterhelp.com slash positive. Thanks so much for joining us as we morph a Monday from a Sunday. We're moving on, starting a new work week, and no holiday weekend relief for you. No get your butts up and at them, let's go. We've got plenty to talk about always on the first show of the work week, and just happens that we had NBA Finals game number two a few hours ago, and the Miami Heat do what they do. This is their MO. They rally in the fourth quarter. They play better when they have no other choice, though they also left the door just cracked a little bit. Enough for the Denver Nuggets to get one last look. They're not going to call a timeout. Denver needs a three-pointer to tie the thing up. Seven seconds left to go for Jamal Murray. Murray has the bottom part of the mid-court circle.

Step back three. Missed it short, and there's the horn. Denver loses game two of the NBA Finals tonight to the Miami Heat, 1-11 to 1-08. Now let's talk about effort. I mean, this is NBA Finals, and we're talking about effort.

That's a huge concern of mine. You know, and you guys probably thought I was just making up some storyline after game one when I said we didn't play well. We didn't play well. We didn't play well, and tonight, you know, that starting lineup to start the game is 10-2 Miami.

Start the third quarter, they scored 11 points in two minutes and 10 seconds, and we just got, you know, we had guys out there that were just whether feeling sorry for themselves for not making shots or thinking they can just turn it on or off. This is not the preseason. It's not the regular season.

It's not round. This is the NBA Finals, and that to me is really, really perplexing, disappointing. Michael Malone is never shy about taking aim at lack of effort or his team being soft. We've heard it all year long. He's got high expectations for this team in the NBA Finals. Jason Kosmici with the call on Denver Nuggets radio.

We are headed to Denver now. We're pleased to welcome our friend Matt Moore who covers the league for the Action Network and was there at game number two. Matt, as you hear the comments from Mike Malone, what's your reaction?

Not really surprised. The players kind of owned up to it as well. You know, he said that he asked the players point blank why they lost that game and they all said to a man effort like they owned up to it. It's perplexing that you would have this problem in the NBA Finals and you have a chance to win two wins from a championship. I think honestly dominating the Suns towards the end of that series and then sweeping the Lakers, I think the Nuggets started to read their own press a little bit.

I think they started to buy into the idea this is going to be easy and guess what? Nothing's ever easy against Eric Spaltz or Miami Heat. He's not. I'm not surprised that Malone let into his guys because that's one thing he just can't stand. He's willing to lose on missing a shot.

He's willing to lose on putting a good effort in and the other team just being better. Great players making great plays but can't stand it when professional athletes don't put in the requisite effort and the Nuggets simply didn't do that tonight especially on the defensive side of the floor. Why are the Miami Heat able to do this over and over again? Now seven double figure rallies for wins in these playoffs alone.

I think it's look we tend to ascribe meaning to these things like it has to be like something about them like it's got to be like well they're just great like they just get you out of your game plan they just make you uncomfortable and like I'm just here to tell you like I'm watching these games I watch all these playoff games yes it's indescribable like sometimes there's just runs that happen in sports that kind of defy convention that you kind of defy explanation and we've seen it before like this is part of what's great about sports is that like miraculous stories happen and quite honestly that's a little of what's going on here. The Heat shot 49 from three and it wasn't their best shooting performance of the playoffs. They've shot better than 50 percent they've shot better than 49 percent about six times in these playoffs it's incredible for a team that quite honestly has never been great offensively they were just in last year but really their offense was always mediocre and that's how they won this game was with offense they never know that's sort of a 124 offensive rating that's excellent that's 78th percentile they won this game with offense like everyone wants to go back to like well Heat culture I'm like look Heat culture is about defense and grinding and like making things tough that's not this like they just find ways to make it happen and then I think he has the credit to bolster his coaching finding ways to win the margins about players being disciplined and understanding their roles playing mistake-free basketball not giving up easy points in terms of transition buckets and easy stuff at the rim all that kind of sets you up to where if you do get this kind of shooting performances that they've gotten since game one versus Milwaukee you're going to have a chance to do something absolutely incredible and be the first 8 seed to win an NBA championship I mean you make such a great point because during the regular season the Heat were among the bottom three in pretty much every offensive metric that you can use over the course of the 82 games and here they are shooting the lights out in stretches not always of course but in stretches shooting the lights out against where it doesn't matter what defense gets thrown at them when they're open it's one or two guys usually that take the opportunity and just heat up yeah absolutely I mean they do have quality shooters like Duncan Robinson was phenomenal night he was just incredible you know Max Stroust did not go one of nine again from three-point range not going to happen but what's interesting is the other Heat in game one outside of Stroust and Duncan Robinson all shot 50 percent or better from three not collectively all of them and so now you have two games and like all that happened in this one was Stroust and Robinson shot better so now you have the stretch where it's like well look they all shot better again without any regression Stroust and Robinson accelerate towards their normal shooting percentages while the rest of the Heat continue to shoot the lights out and that's how you wind up in this type of situation Denver allowed them to get in rhythm don't want to take that away like Miami triggered the action and put enough pressure with Jimmy Butler and especially Bam Adebayo who's been incredible in the series yeah to cause breakdowns by Denver Denver also just did like baffling things they didn't understand how to execute a switch to save their lives tonight as if they were the Rockets like it was terrible defensively uh from really the the jump and the only reason this game was close is because of an outlier Denver offensive performance from the bench in the second quarter and if you're going to win the Nicole Jokic minutes by 11 points as the Heat did tonight you're going to have a really good chance to beat Denver and they're going to help to carry that forward as the series shifts to Florida yeah it's crazy that he had 41 points and he was still a minus number not just a minus number but a minus double figures and so I'm wondering Matt if you're Eric Spoelstra and the Heat are you willing to give up that much if you can lock down most everybody else yeah so it went off on Ramona Shelburne of ESPN a great reporter off after the game about how like you can't make Jokic just uh a score that's not the strategy that means like how he plays the game and all these types of things but the reality is this is that the Denver Nuggets are now one and four when Nicole Jokic scores over 39 points or more like the numbers are not good the numbers are just not good when he puts up huge scoring performances they're even bigger though when you dig deeper it's when he has low assist totals so if he has like a monster scoring and assist games guess what Denver's gonna win but if you if you can manage to hurt the other Nuggets with your defense if you can stay home and make things uncomfortable for them and quite honestly like the Nuggets didn't execute well they didn't get into the two-man game they didn't punish guys inside with the adjustment of Kevin Love MPJ was terrible tonight yeah he was and missed some really good shots too KCP missed good looks and honestly had a pretty bad defensive night so like they got uncomfortable and these are the things that Miami does that rattle everyone or they just start to fall apart when they apply pressure after pressure after pressure and it's not even necessarily like I can't say that they're playing guys really tight and playing off in defense but there's just something about the way that Miami plays that gets guys not to execute and that cuts down on the assists both opportunities uh and you know shooting percentage conversions on Jokic passes and that's that's the path is if Jokic is a one-dimensional scorer they can win they don't want an offensive rating with Jokic on the floor tonight that is well below his normal averages both in the playoffs and regular season so they did the job defensively again it wasn't for that second quarter bench run this is a blowout but the other side of that is all of these bad things happened for Denver and they lost by three true Matt Moore is an NBA insider for Action Network joins us here after hours on CBS Sports Radio uh something that we've seen from the Nuggets not against the Heat even but it did happen tonight is they do allow teams to come back in and make it interesting it happened twice in their sweep against the Lakers we've seen it I think what happened once against the Suns too what why is that I think the teams have to get used to playing them and it kind of settles down and I think some of this quite honestly a lot of it's the bench unit is that usually the bench unit for Denver struggles and it happened again tonight even as good as they were in that first half you saw that starts the fourth quarter Duncan Robinson gets going when Jokic isn't on the floor and so like that opens the door and then you carry that momentum down the stretch I think Denver also goes in a little bit of prevent offense when they have a big lead they don't have the desire the Warriors used to like try and take a 25 point lead and turn into a 35 point lead and a 35 point lead into a 50 point lead the Nuggets are like no we're good with 12 12 totally fine that's that's totally okay 12 is reasonable and so like they don't have that kind of desire to run the score up and that kind of influences things and it does open it open up for teams to be able to make these runs but I don't know that was that that was this one this one was more Denver simply wasn't ready for the combination of factors of Miami's three-point shooting the zone defense some of the tactics they use some uncommon mistakes it was a concert of things that happened to cause Denver to lose this game but guess what that's what Miami has done all throughout the playoffs are you a big believer in home court advantage in the postseason or no I think it's team centric I think there's some teams that are really great at home and Denver has been one of them which is why I think this loss is especially worrisome for them but this is where they've been undefeated Miami has not been great at home they've been much much shakier at home in Miami so like Denver can get a win there but if Miami can win once in Denver who's to say they can't win multiple times in Denver and so that kind of opens it up um look it's better for Miami to have home court than not have home court but in truth I think it's more matter of it's it's worse for Denver not to have it is a better way to put it Miami doesn't need home court they need Denver to not have it and now Denver doesn't I love what Jimmy Butler had to say after the game actually we can play it for you uh Kevin if you don't mind cut number 13 he was asked why the team is so resilient and why they continue to do what they do I just think nobody cares on our team we're not we're not worried about what anybody thinks we're so focused in on what we do well and who we are as a group that at the end of the day that's what we fall back on make or miss shots we're going to be who we are because we're not worried about anybody else that's how it's been all year long and that's not going to change so that's what I think it is I think it's that I don't give a damn fact I feel like the Miami Heat actually have an advantage with their chemistry not every team can say that but when you truly have a team that doesn't give a damn it seems to be an advantage for the Heat yeah I mean look they don't deal with the same kind of nonsense narrative they're always trying to build a brand there right like this isn't the Brooklyn Nets with Kyrie and Kevin Durant trying to you know display their art or build a brand or whatever they don't deal with those kind of expectations not the Lakers where there's like constant kind of attention on them they were able to go completely under the radar that opens things up bunch of underactive players not getting that kind of attention only really gave Vincent his plan for contract that's also good too that sets up things in a really positive way one of the things that's been interesting that was in the kind of conversation about Kevin Love and what he's brought there's a lot of ways like chemistry was not great this year they didn't look like they were having fun didn't look like they like playing with each other but that changed when Love got there I think Love bringing a levity that kind of counterbalanced Jimmy's intensity and probably made some of the combination that's made it so successful for them and typically he plays what six to eight minutes per game after starting but tonight they needed him for 22 minutes yeah and he was good you know taking charges being physical inside that's a lot of this is like Love only can defend really one way underneath and that's take charges but if you do that it does like muck up the lanes and that's causing problems for Denver that Denver's going to have to try and adjust in game two Matt Moore is with us from Denver after game two it's after hours CBS portraitio if you don't mind just want to ask you about some of the coaching hires we've seen Nick Nurse in Philly, Emay Udonka in Houston, Monty Williams in Detroit which one of these fits do you like the best? I think you know I love Monty Williams in Detroit and there's a lot of conversation about whether you know him not wanting that job and kind of having me talked into it but Williams is going to set a tone he's going to get the players playing the right way and that's a really good pass and it's a really good hire I think for a number of reasons which is like from the start of this this is a black front office hiring a black coach at one of the highest figures in the league and that's good for the trajectory of the league that's been trying to correct a problem with hiring practices amongst black Americans and former players throughout its time so I think that's pretty significant honestly I think Nick Nurse in Philly is a little weird um Joel Embiid has some comments about him Nurse is hit or miss sometimes with how he connects with players so his ability to kind of get people to buy in is going to be a big question mark here sometimes if you get them outside of the right context it could be pretty rough and him and Joel is going to be an interesting meeting of of egos there in Philly those are the two that I think stand out the most. We heard Adam Silver address the Ja Morant situation vaguely of course doesn't want to take any of the thunder away from the NBA finals whether it's intel that you've gathered or your gut what you think what can we be talking about here for Ja in terms of punishment?

There's a pretty wide range that people are talking about because if you ask some people what's a significant suspension they're like 10 games and if you ask some people what's a significant suspension they're like 30 games and you're like whoa okay so like that's a wide disparity in there that's kind of what we're starting um I lean more towards under 20 I think 10 to 15 losing a quarter of the season um ish before you start getting into a heavy significant dose of this I think is probably where we're going to land on this um and it should be noted like it's I think it's difficult to find a player to suspend a player that long without a fight in the stands a fight with another player and without breaking a law um I think that the absence of those three factors is going to make it difficult to get the NBA to accept without appeal and arbitration and all those things a suspension that's that lengthy but there is kind of a feeling around the league that Jaws crossed the line that not a lot of people are willing to stand up for him and that's kind of the one of the questions is it doesn't seem like like there's a lot of people around the league and in amongst the players even that are like no we got to stand by the guy based off of him making the same mistake twice so Adam Silver will have his say and he did actually mention the NBA PA that they were on board with it so we'll wait until after the finals for that you can find Matt on twitter at HP basketball and he covers the NBA for action network also has locked on NBA locked on nuggets podcast joining us from Denver always good to catch up with you thank you so much for a couple of minutes thanks Amy so getting him to give us his insight after game number two I think is really valuable but now we've seen the strengths of each of these teams the Denver Nuggets as well as the Miami Heat and I think one thing Matt had to say that really stands out is the Nuggets don't need to smash your face into the ground or or trip you and steal your lunch money they don't have that type of a tenacity they don't have that type of a toad I guess would be the better way to say it they're okay with winning now Mike Malone is not okay with winning but the team itself they're not trying to embarrass you they're a nicer basketball team well that leaves the door open for the heat and plays right into their wheelhouse as in right into their wheelhouse all right you can find us on twitter after hours cbs a lot of you were predicting guessing that there would be a sweep in the NBA Finals not so fast you know what happens when you doubt the Miami Heat also Tom Brady's still answering questions about whether or not he's returning to play football and if you notice that every time he does he reminds us he can still throw the football he just chooses not to oh well we thought we'd inject some Tom Brady into your Sunday night slash Monday morning to start off the work week it's good to have you with us thanks for hanging out it's after hours with Amy Lawrence on CBS Sports Radio T-Mobile's network can help keep you connected to all your favorite podcasts when you're out and about whether you're an early bird looking to dive into a daily news podcast or a night owl who wants to catch up on the latest reality tv drama T-Mobile will keep you connected on their strong and reliable network T-Mobile covers more highway miles with 5g than anyone so if you need great coverage especially when you're on the go check out T-Mobile find out more at tmobile.com c-y that's s-e-e-w-h-y your points are worth more than you think this first class flight to Tokyo you can book it in your credit card portal for 1.4 million points yowzers with point me you could redeem just 120,000 points for that same flight now that's more like it point me gets you six to 12 times the value for your points your credit card points are worth more than you think point me better flights fewer points get started today at point.me that's point.me hey can you hear me okay good well so can your potential customers right here on your odyssey station you might be used to skipping social ads but you are still listening to me right now and so are your clients to learn how to drive more business and how odyssey can help get your message to your customers visit state of audio.com that's state of audio.com. I think I'm actually going to miss Tom Brady in the NFL I wasn't sure I would because we got a lot of him but as has been typical with the retirements of some of the best quarterbacks I have missed seeing them and this goes back to when I was much younger and first in love with the NFL but more recently I miss seeing Drew Brees I miss seeing Peyton Manning I miss seeing Ben Roethlisberger even though I actually think that I would prefer to miss him and in that his podcast is can be cringy sometimes but anyway I miss seeing Philip Rivers every now and then definitely miss Eli Manning and we'll miss Tom Brady now I'm not sure I'll miss Aaron Rogers when he's gone maybe that remains to be seen but when you hear Gene Deckerhoff on Bucks radio maybe it gives you a little bit of a spark because yeah that's it for Brady as he continues to tell us he is not returning to play football and I love that every time he does reiterate that publicly he makes sure everyone knows oh it's not because I can't throw the football it's because I choose to focus in other areas he was on the Rich Eisen show recently I think there's other competitive ways to to kind of get those things out um you know I don't think that you know I think there's it's just I'll be competitive in other areas for sure okay I will be and I think that it doesn't necessarily need to be on a football field throwing footballs anymore I mean I can still do that I'm just not going to do it competitively um in a way that you know to be a part of an organization that way because that's a huge commitment and that's a that commitment I don't take lightly I don't think I ever took that commitment lightly I thought I put 100 into everything and I try to still put 100 into everything that I do it just takes a little bit of a different shape or a little bit of a different direction and you could see other areas where um you know I'm trying to contribute and I think that I can be a part of different places and different organizations to to help them be successful as well and I think that's a big part of what my future looks like. Tom Brady on the Rich Eisen show reiterating that he will not be returning to play football nope what he wants to do is be competitive in other areas now he's got to practice his analysis right because he will make his debut or and you know what I shouldn't say that he'll make his full-time debut I bet we'll see him pop up in different Fox venues or at different Fox broadcasts this season I wouldn't be surprised just to let him try it on for size just to integrate him to see if he's comfortable to make sure the desk is comfortable with him I mean this is a different type of thing this is the best quarterback of all time and you don't just drop him onto a tv set and hope that it works out well and there's great chemistry now for the most part he'll be in a broadcast booth and he'll be working with be working with Kevin, Kevin Burkhardt much to Greg Olsen's chagrin or no they won't make it a three-man booth that's not possible so I'm sure they'll do test runs and trial runs with Kevin and Kevin's easy he's like Mike Torrico he can work with anyone he'll make it work because that's what a play-by-play guy does or play-by-play gal does you have to adapt on tv you have to adapt to your analyst not the other way around so in 2024 he'll be full-time at a broadcast booth but I wouldn't be surprised if we saw him before then just kind of dropping in saying hola so yeah he needs to practice his analysis his podcast with Jim Gray that airs well it's a show and then it's turned into the let's go podcast on Sirius XM that's an opportunity for him to work out those broadcasting muscles because trust me it's not easy for athletes especially athletes at the highest level same thing same challenge as when they try to become coaches a lot of times the best ever athletes at their positions or at their sports don't make great coaches Larry Bird couldn't he did it for a while and he was successful but he got so frustrated he said because he couldn't get them to do what he wanted them to do or get them to play the game the way that he did get them to see the game the way that he did and so with the high standard high expectations I'm not sure Tom Brady would be a great coach I think he'd be super frustrated though there's been an element of him coaching his teammates and with the maturity and wisdom and experience that he brought to the table of course guys were relying on him so there is that aspect but once you move to a broadcast booth you've got to be able to criticize you've got to be able to share both the positive and the negative not every broadcaster who's a former athlete can do that they sometimes get a little nervous about critiquing their former peers but can you say it with grace can you say it with hey I've been there I've been in their shoes so Brady's practicing on his show on his podcast which will return for football season and then whenever he gets the opportunity he's been doing a lot of interviews lately again with the Rich Eisen show he was asked about Aaron Rodgers moving to the Jets now not the same stage as him moving to the Bucks however where Tom Brady goes there is a spotlight just like Aaron Rodgers I think he's going to do a great job he's a tremendous player great competitor and I think this kind of breathes a lot of fresh air and invigoration into you know going to a different team and wanting to prove yourself all over again and I think we all have that spirit about us that you know when we started off in the NFL you know we've had something to prove we wanted to go out there and the team that drafted us you know god there was a lot of freshness to it and you took it and you really attacked it and I see that with him too you know being a part of being in New York and there's a lot of expectation there and there's a lot of eyes and there's a lot of media and I think he's going to go out there and he's going to do a great job and that that division is very competitive with Buffalo with the Jets I think Miami's a talented team and obviously New England you know with with the amazing culture that they've built over a long period of time so Aaron's tremendous player tremendous passer of the football I've always kind of watched him and studied his mechanics and how he goes about things and but I think he's going to do a great job and he's got a lot of talented players there too a lot of young players that have a lot of speed quickness and I think when you look back at probably his most productive years and he's had a lot of them you know he's had great receivers and those receivers we all have we all need great receivers as quarterbacks to be productive and prolific and I think he's got a great opportunity to do that in New York. Tom Brady on the Rich Eisen show it's interesting as I'm listening to him this second or third time I've heard it but as I'm listening to him I'm realizing well his analysis of course is spot on he has no trouble speaking his mind and speaking clearly and concisely I would say maybe even ahead of the game from where Tony Romo was when he took over. Romo can be a little more volatile we'll see whether or not Brady gets excited the way that Romo does I can't imagine that he tends to be relatively reserved away from the football field at all times not just now but he's not going to have any trouble talking football and that's an indicator as he speaks about Aaron that he's considered some of the various factors that he can make a a concise argument and yet he's got no trouble filling up 60 seconds. I think the challenge will be that on tv you don't have that type of of time right so one of the things that I have always said about tv people ask me a lot would you like to go to tv or when will you make the jump to tv and I've done tv but there's never enough air time for me so Brady on radio with his show with his podcast with his various media appearances that's different than Brady in a broadcast booth also there will be no f-bombs not likely but you can you can hear the different faces and the different voices of Tom Brady right he's very calculated as he's talking about Aaron Rodgers with Rich Eisen but then on his own radio show with his buddy he calls him scratchy Jim Gray they go way back they're longtime friends he trusts him he's probably a little more open it's funny because as we were doing our show last Thursday night into Friday morning one of the questions we threw out there this was actually a lot of fun in honor of Roger Federer party partnering excuse me not parting ways but partnering with ways although at some point they'll probably part ways too but in honor of Roger Federer voicing the ways app we were asking you what athlete or celebrity or entertainer would you like to give your directions while you're driving I don't recall that anyone sent Tom Brady I think that'd be interesting he can get salty spicy Kevin what about you is there a particular athlete or entertainer that you would like to offer your directions on the ways app hands down Mike Tyson Mike Tyson he would have a field day with that he would also you'd need someone to bleep it out for you unless well if it's just you in your car but what if it's your mom or grandmother or well if it's my grandmother especially my grandmother yeah we would have to go back to the original PG Virgin GPS but I think that that would make a lot of money if you had Mike Tyson do a voiceover with a GPS how could he not buy it like you would have to listen to it to give it to give it a chance so I would probably ride with Mike it definitely is a genius idea I love it and apparently I missed it when Yoda was voicing ways because that would have been amazing for me Yoda or James Earl Jones a big Star Wars fan of course um but there are many other voices that I wouldn't mind hearing or characters so Mike Tyson's a great one because you would get some salt with that too Gilbert Gottfried a bunch of people said in that voice oh my goodness that's pretty crazy uh some of the actors that oh oh Will Ferrell would be really funny too if they were allowed to be funny I was gonna say if he was still with us Chris Farley that would be a good one could you imagine uh yeah there's some real good ones out there that I think would be a hoot if they're allowed to have a personality so that's the thing they can't just be run of the mill and be reading phrases they have to be allowed to yell at us or have personalities Mr T that was a one that was suggested that was really funny too all right on Twitter A Law Radio you're not going to believe it but there's another whale video from the same Twitter account that gave us the whale around the kayak actually it wasn't a kayak the whale around the paddleboard last week that so many of you went crazy for and that I've only watched I don't know 15 times probably more than that where there's another whale video but there's a twist to this one I'll explain because now that I've seen the second whale video I tend to be more skeptical of the first one from last week so again on Twitter A Law Radio then our Facebook page too we're glad to have you with us as we work our way into a Monday morning it's after hours here on CBS Sports Radio we are talking about the number of times the Miami Heat have rallied from double figures down in these NBA playoffs well did you know we've got the hockey version in the Vegas Golden Knights who now have the 1-0 lead in the Stanley Cup final a game coming from Saturday night in Las Vegas with Dan Duva on the call on Golden Knight to radio it's after hours here on CBS Sports Radio nine nine times the Golden Knights have fallen behind in a playoff game only to rally for the dub nine times now they did trail in the first period against the Panthers but that lead for Florida didn't last very long so it was first period and they were tied at one the Golden Knights were up 2-1 in the second and then late late in the second period the Panthers were able to tie it okay so like 10 seconds or so to go in the second period the Panthers tie it so they go into the third period not in it too but then the capability of the Golden Knights to score to explode offensively at any point three goals and they win it going away so that we had talked about this before the resiliency of the Heat compared to the resiliency of the Panthers and boy have we seen it from both of these eight seeds over the course of the last couple months so with his team now in an 0-1 hole Paul Maurice of the Panthers well maybe this is exactly where we need to be it's going to be tight like that both goalies made some big saves um special teams will keep getting better on both sides right to figure each other out we just don't see each other very much so we'll learn as we go it's a good point when you're talking about theories that Pitt eats east against west well you can certainly watch tape scout yada yada you don't get to see each other very often the regular season on the ice which is where a lot of the intel comes from you can find me on twitter a law radio now some of you are answering the question about the voice you would most like to direct you on the ways app if you have a choice this is in honor of Roger Federer i miss him on the tennis court that's for sure and Rafael Adal who had hip surgery late last week and so he's essentially out for the year we may not see Rafa compete at the highest level again i'm hoping that's not the case he's holding out hope but that's was the same case for Roger Federer right who had tried multiple operations and ultimately wasn't able to get back to the level that would allow him to compete have we now seen the last of both roger and Rafa injuries bringing to end their careers though though they are extremely accomplished so that opens the door for Novak Djokovic who has made it into the french open quarterfinals and it's his 14th consecutive trip to the french open quarterfinals 14th straight year he's tracking a 23rd grand slam singles title and for the men that would be the all-time record right now tied with Rafa at 22 each so we will well we'll hear from him after the top of the hour but right now i'm all in on Novak i love history and certainly Carlos Alcaraz will have something to say about that into the quarterfinals you got these two guys on a collision course now they would meet in the semis okay so they meet in the final four but Alcaraz who's world number one also is into the quarters in Paris in au Paris so we'll talk a little tennis over the after the top of the hour game two of the stanley cup final is monday night eight five five two one two four two two seven ali is in miami welcome to after hours how are you much blessed i love your show it's been a while thank you yeah i mean i i know you were talking about tom brady you know for like two minutes yeah i mean at the end of the day i feel like tom birdie is the most intelligent quarterback that ever played the game i mean he he'll be a great you know uh gm or a executive i see tom brady being you know an impact in the nfl after he retires right um he has too much knowledge i mean the the way he came up the grind that he went through his level of knowledge and understanding is beautiful you know um in in i love to see him successful you know on the stage where you know he's a he's a spokesman but i feel like his impact would be you know for a team where he teaches people his knowledge i feel like he's one of the most intelligent you know qb next to paton nanny well he did speak at the rookie symposium so he's trying to share some of that wisdom and experience with the next generation of quarterbacks and of course he will be opening up and talking in a broadcast booth uh what about him as an owner because i don't maybe gm but right now it seems like what he most wants to do is get into ownership and buying a stake in the raiders that and again that'll be great i mean on any level where he's able to to provide his knowledge to the players in general for every player not just quarterbacks and just be able to be you know provide his knowledge and understanding of football he's a he's the most smartest quarterback that i've seen at least in my lifetime right i'm i'm i'm 39 so to to see a quarterback that's so smart and so intelligent i would love to see him bring an impact to the nfl in any organization regardless of where he goes he's an intelligent qb and i would love to see that yeah i mean i i think the sky is the limit for him per the usual it was when he played football and it is now in business and he has many other business ventures remember he was part of producing that movie well and starring in that movie that came out 80 for brady um gronk was in that too but his production company is the one that put together man in the arena uh that 10-part theories about him which i haven't yet watched but i am hoping to watch it either i would love to watch that that's awesome yeah so his production company's busy too and he's got his show his radio show and he'll be working in broadcasting so there's a lot of other things that he plans to do but reminds me a little bit of lebron james who's already very diversified when it comes to business and he's got a production company of his own as well so brady is well insulated and well prepared to not be bored in the future definitely and and you know to see to see individuals like that you know and you know i'm a miami heat fan to see you know individuals like that like pat rally is one of them you know the people that played the game that understand the game they want to teach that knowledge to the to the to the you know the new players coming up you know and pat rally is one of my you know mentors and i love him and to see great players like like him to teach others that's what it's about you know to to give that knowledge to the to players that are coming up and to be a part of an organization and to get players and to be able to see that right i would love to see you know uh tom brady be a gm and to be able to you know bring you know great players in league you know same way pat did you know and go miami heat in the finals it was incredible that was i mean this is what they do all right ali good to hear from you thank you so much thank you love you yeah eight five five two one two four two two seven the only thing is if brady buys this part ownership in the raiders which he's moving forward with he can't be a gm of another team that would be a conflict of interest so i i don't know if he has any designs on being a gm member paton manning had been asked about working in a front office but he's not there yet he loves his broadcasting and all his different media ventures uh with his company omaha productions omaha i wonder if he says it like that every time where he can just stand there with a straight face and say omaha no back next it's after hours with amy lawrence cbs sports radio