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Find out more at T-Mobile.com. The Los Angeles Lakers fought as hard and as long as they could, but eventually the Denver Nuggets, able to reel them in despite a 15-point deficit at half in L.A., find their comfort zone, use the defense, use the fast break, and essentially wear the Lakers down. In a four-game sweep in the West Finals and the Denver Nuggets for the first time in their 47-year history as a franchise are into the NBA Finals. You know they've been the chewed gum on the bottom of the NBA shoe for so long. The Lakers and the Nuggets come into this West Finals from two completely different trajectories. The Lakers are the franchise. They were in search of their 18th championship banner. They've got champions all along their storied history. Meanwhile the Nuggets, they're breaking through for the first time.

It's the haves and the have-nots and a flip of the script. After Hours with Amy Lawrence on CBS Sports Radio. Great to have you with us here on our show and we still have a lot to get to, like those Florida Panthers at it again and Bobby, Bobby were the chance inside the arena on Monday night. But first let's talk West Finals and the old college try. Nah, nah, I was more than that.

It was everything the Lakers had to give it and it was another really close game against the Nuggets but unable to even get one game in this series. You can find me on Twitter, A-Law Radio, our Facebook page too, After Hours with Amy Lawrence. Into our lives we are pleased to welcome our friend Michael Duarte from NBC LA who was in the arena just a few hours ago. I'm assuming you're not still in the arena, Mike? Nope, nope, not anymore.

I'm back home. Well, so what was the atmosphere like as the Lakers are building this 15-point lead? Was there hope there? Yeah, there was a lot of hope to start the game tonight in game four, Amy.

LeBron James first and foremost is the head of the snake and that's where it starts. He came out with a historic performance in the first half scoring 31 points. That's a playoff career high for LeBron James in year 20 at age 38. We thought we'd seen everything and I know I've been hearing you, I've been listening to you on my way home and then you know as I was getting comfortable back in my place after that just intense, highly focused game, hearing you talk about the tired legs and yes you're right he played 48 minutes.

He's been battling injuries, an older guy. I have the same aches and pains that LeBron does at this point. We're about the same age, so I feel it, but you have to give the Denver Nuggets defense credit. They made a huge adjustment in the second half. They triple-teamed LeBron every time he got to the point where he ripple-teamed LeBron every time he got in the paint. They were not going to let LeBron beat them at the rim and that's what I saw in the second half is that 15-point lead you just mentioned evaporated faster than my paycheck and suddenly you have just Denver trapping and containing LeBron the paint and he was trying to defer to his teammates and I kept saying this on Twitter all night.

You need somebody else on the Lakers to step up. It didn't really look like Anthony Davis did it till late in the fourth quarter. By then it might have been a little bit too late and then again I was a little frustrated with Darvin Ham to kind of complain about the refs on that last play in his postgame press conference. You didn't see LeBron do that.

I saw it live and I've seen the play now in replay many times. I just thought that was a great defensive effort by both Jamal Murray and Aaron Gordon and it was the time left on the clock because I think if there was two seconds left we might see LeBron gather that ball and somehow get it back up and in, but that's how it ended. As you point out, the Lakers and specifically LeBron able to attack the paint early they ended up with 62 points in the paint which is more than half of their output but the tired legs then not having the outside shots that went down to kind of open things up and so the Nuggets even on that last play which is indicative they're double teaming LeBron so that he doesn't get a clean look. As you think about the four games in this series and only one of them separated by double figures in the end, what was the factor, what was the advantage of the Nuggets that put them over the top or that separated them from the Lakers ultimately? Yeah great question. You know the Lakers must have TSA pre because they got out of those western conference finals in four games quick.

Listen to you with the quips. I pride myself on it Amy but you know I don't have a couple more for you here but you know a couple things to your point first and foremost as you mentioned I believe three of the four games with less than a minute remaining were down to one possession and late in the fourth quarter of game three which was the one game you know that was a little jointed there game two was the double digit one you talked about but late in those games they were still one possession games they were close games so that brings up your question which is that that razor thin margin for error and where was the difference one thing you have to look at is these Denver Nuggets they've been together for a while you know Nikola Jokic one of the reasons why Lebron after he made his retirement rumors and hints you know his postgame press conference that I didn't run out with my colleagues to follow up on that was I wanted to go hear Nikola Jokic speak so I went over to hear him and he was talking about the fact that you know he was drafted by the Nuggets Jamal Murray was drafted by the Nuggets seven years ago. These guys came up together they've added some pieces here recently in Aaron Gordon and KCP and Bruce and this team though now finally having the depth that it has filling up the holes that they've got they've played together for a while whereas this Lakers roster is a newborn baby it's only been around for three months they've been figuring it out on the fly Lebron only came back for the last two three four games of the regular season before this playoff push and run so when it comes down to closing games late the Nuggets have the experience they have the superstars and Jokic and Murray to do it whereas like you mentioned the Lakers don't really know where to go they have to rely entirely on Lebron James and he was gassed and out of the out of it was just empty in his tank late in all four of those games and so to put a little punctuation mark on this to me Darvin Ham's decision to go small with the starting lineup in game one and keep D'Angelo Russell who was getting torn apart by Jamal Murray like he was string cheese first three games the series a minus 53 when he was on the court to me that's the big difference because if Darvin Ham makes that adjustment earlier going to the bigger lineup to match Denver I think the Lakers would have won a couple games in the series and we would still be having a series moving forward yeah his shooting was abysmal and some of that probably has to do with the fact that he was chasing Jamal Murray for a good portion of the series Michael Duarte of NBC LA fresh off this game four between the Nuggets and the Lakers as Denver reaches its first NBA Finals in franchise history it's after hours here on CBS Sports Radio I made this point going back to I think it was game two that the Denver Nuggets are done getting pushed around they have been one of those bad jokes not yours of course Michael you don't make bad jokes they have been one of these bad jokes in the NBA for a long time and it's it's so fitting that Carmelo Anthony retires right on this Monday because he was a Denver Nugget initially but they have they put a lot of effort into it never quite captured the formula even going back to 2020 which we know still motivates them they've been an also ran for such a long time so they're done getting pushed around we even saw them well Aaron Gordon is he never will back down from a fight but the extracurricular activity the the John the talking smack the pushing back with LeBron how did you see them toughen up in this series how did you see them play mentally and physically tough in this series yeah that's a great question Amy and I'm glad I'm talking to you my favorite host because I've been going through a flurry of radio hits this last month and we're putting the punctuation on the Lakers season tonight and turning out the lights but you know it's great of a roller coaster story that this Lakers season was as we talked about starting two and ten and then all the trades they made at the deadline a whole new roster and then getting all the way to western conference finals upsetting a lot of higher seeds along the way the better story here is the Denver Nuggets and as I mentioned a team that built their themselves through the draft that did it the right way that is in a small market that climbed the mountain so many times including in those Carmelo Anthony days when he used to battle Kobe Bryant in the western conference finals to finally and I wrote this in my story after the game to finally slay Goliath tonight you know the Lakers and Nuggets have met in the playoffs seven this was the eighth series so seven times prior to the series wow they lost all seven times all seven times the Lakers they had never beaten the Lakers in a playoff series and not only did they beat them now they sweep them and they do it to get to their first NBA finals in their franchise's history uh trying to become trying to take themselves off that list of just 11 NBA teams who have never won the title hopefully I'm rooting for them I know they might play the heat but I'm rooting for them because they've done it the right way and they're a great story and so I think we should be talking more about them and how they did it and to your point going out and getting a guy like KCP who is so crucial to the Lakers championship run the bubble in 2020 going out and getting a Bruce Brown who you talk about physical an abuser a guy like that he was so integral this team too and then having veterans like Jeff Green that can come off the bench and even guys like DeAndre Jordan Reggie Jackson Thomas Bryant who didn't really play in this series those guys are veterans who've never won a ring and they're going to be fighting for that too so my cap is off to them and tip them and the last thing I would just say is LeBron James and Anthony Davis said that this was the best team they've played in the four years they've been together and that includes you know the heat in the finals the Suns that beat them in the playoff series a few years ago this was the best team they said the most complete team they've ever seen in the playoffs so that's a that's a big compliment to the Nuggets. Michael watching the NBA as closely as you do who did you think deserve to win the MVP award? I thought it was Nikola Jokic. I read an article during that time where they took the names out of it and they just said here's the stats tell me who should win the MVP and if you look at just the stats without the names attached Nikola Jokic had the stats in my opinion if you were blind just picking based off of that how many games he played his consistency almost averaging a triple double throughout the season the amount of wins he earned his team to me he was the MVP now with that said I have no problem with Joel Embiid getting it what he did for the Sixers was remarkable he's been so close so many times before I like parity I don't just like it if one guy dominates you know so long like the Bill Russell eras and Kareem winning five uh so I like that there was some parity here and I like what you said Amy if if Nikola Jokic had gotten the MVP but you were telling him he wouldn't be able to play in the NBA finals he'd give all three of those MVPs back yes to be able to have a chance to win one Larry OB trophy so uh I agreed with the decision that it was MB but if you just looked at the stats alone I thought Jokic had the better numbers. LeBron James certainly an MVP in many ways set the all-time scoring record this year we know he's talked in the past about wanting to play with his son when he gets to the league but specifically following this game in this sweep no doubt he's exhausted what did you make of his comments about his future yeah I like what you said about the Tom Brady and not making an emotional decision because I agreed with you that fresh off of this day and I want to talk about what you talked about earlier and that's Carmelo Anthony's retirement uh LeBron knew it was coming but I think he probably didn't see that video and I don't know if you've seen the video that Carmelo released on Twitter earlier today to announce his retirement but the end of that video where it turns from him to his son and that how he's now living on through his son I think that really resonated with LeBron James I think hearing Carmelo one of his best friends in the world part of that draft class like we said with him and Dwyane Wade and now those guys are both gone from the league seeing that and knowing that maybe it is time for his son and seeing that he just lost and it's fresh in his mind I didn't just see his final comment as he walked off the podium as him hinting at retirement throughout his postgame press conference when any of us in the media and I was standing right there were asking about next season or his future assuming he was coming back LeBron would like bite his lip be silent hold have like a weird look on his face I was like what's going on with him I picked it up right away that whenever he was talking about his future he was weird so I think if you were to ask him to make a decision right now after this game he'd probably choose retirement I also know LeBron James is the guy that likes attention and so having the narrative for the next few days about this I'm sure he's not going to mind being in the headlines and I do think Amy ultimately he's under contract with the Lakers next season if the Lakers can improve the roster I think D'Angelo Russell you know he was a guy two weeks ago that Lakers would have loved to have brought back I don't think you can bring him back now after watching what happened to him in this series I think if there's any way to go get a guy like Kyrie Irving you know Chris Paul might be available that's a veteran point guard they need a point guard especially on this team to to lighten the load off of LeBron James Fred Van Fleet might be available as well if you can bring in one of those guys and try to keep some of the depth and bring some good pieces in for LeBron the fact that his son Bronny is going to be playing at USC he's going to be able to watch all those games Bryce is at a high school now closer in Studio City I think the allure to still play in LA wait for his son and be able to watch both his sons play by still playing in LA this year if he has the roster around him I think that allure is going to be too great and I think he ends up playing because I don't think he wants his legacy to end like this how would you evaluate the first season of Darvin Ham as the head coach of the Lakers oh that's a great question it's hard for me to answer that now because I felt like he got out coached by Mike Malone in this series Amy I just thought he was too late to make adjustments I don't I don't want to bring up the Frank Vogel years um but Frank Vogel in my opinion was a defensive genius and if you go back to that bubble run he changed the starting lineup for each one of those series he didn't wait until game four going into the series he knew I need bigs up against Nikolai Jokic so he started Dwight Howard alongside Anthony Davis even though the series before against the Rockets he went totally small so he's willing to do the matchups and play the matchups given him series by series not just keep the same guys on the floor or keep guys that have been starting all year there just to kind of stroke their egos he was able to make the adjustments that would ultimately win this series I think Darvin Ham all playoff long was too late in doing that and so yeah I know it's his first year and I hope he really learns from it and learns that you just got to do what it takes to win and get an advance rather than play the feelings game with some of these guys but overall from where they started to where they finished in a first year with trying to build a new culture new coaching staff new offense running through Anthony Davis having a completely different roster change six players in six players out the trade deadline you have to give Darvin Ham credit for guiding the ship the entire time because a lot of guys would have just jumped off and said I quit and I'm out and so I do give him respect for staying on the ship but I do think uh had he made some more adjustments in this series this could have been a 6-7 game series okay so Michael Duarte with us from Los Angeles before I let you go you know we always get off the beaten path with Mike what the heck has gotten into the Dodgers now oh my gosh yes injuries plaguing the Dodgers which we haven't seen for a while and unfortunately whether it's on purpose or not this roster was built to not be as talented as good as it was last year which won a NL record 111 games so right now they're really going through it you know Clayton Kershaw just recently lost his mother Julio right Arias goes to the IL Dustin May goes this was the problem I feared I think we've talked about it on this show the depth of the Dodgers starting rotation and having to rely too much on the bullpen I know they're on this towards stretch I know they just beat the Braves I believe they have the best record in the National League again I still think they're a playoff team but this roster is not as talented not as deep as years past so I want to see how they handle this next month or so and if they can kind of still stay ahead and keep pace because they could fall pretty quickly with the with the starting rotation they have now if these guys are injured for too long not only do they have the best record in the National League they have the best home record in the National League which is saying something too all right Michael before I let you go because it's been a long day and as you say you are in such high demand right now you're so popular but does it make you feel good about our friendship and our relationship that I went to Sedona just because of you I went to Sedona and took a bazillion pictures of the red rocks just because of you and did you love it I loved it it's breathtaking from the time that you're still six or seven miles out of the town all the way through the town all the different rock formations my friends and I we stopped at various places and took photos of the rock formations we took selfies with the red rocks it was pretty incredible but I just want you to know I never would have done it if not for you yeah I don't want I don't want the praise like you just did it for me I just want my friends to experience just these amazing things and amazing places and I'm also glad you ran that half marathon so like I said you're building up for the marathon I want you to experience that too oh gosh there's no greater feeling than finishing a marathon I really do want to impress you but I might die Mike so I don't know if that's in the future you don't want me to die do you no I don't think you will I don't think you will trust me if you can do the half you can double it up okay I'll consider it I'll I'll consider it you can find Michael Duarte on Twitter at Michael J Duarte he is not only an award-winning journalist but he's our LA guy for NBC LA covers Lakers now but also football baseball hockey everything else going on and he's one of our faves we appreciate your time I hope now you get a chance to sleep but you seem kind of wired though man yeah after that game a little bit but yeah finally we can uh somebody call Fred again because we're turning out the lights on on basketball and we'll we'll focus now to the other sports starting tomorrow all right well then we will talk to you again soon thanks Michael thanks Amy have a good show how many jokes he's got the jokes always got the jokes he's one of our favorites because he's so entertaining and because here's the secret with Michael he always listens to the show before he comes on I don't know of any other guest who does that and if if we've had a few here or there it's not as routinely it's not as much as Mike does to get ready for the show which is why I always appreciate him because he's prepared not only with the material because of the events that he covers and his knowledge of the teams but because he listens to us and he knows what we're doing before he gets on the air with us so thank you to Michael I know many of you look forward to his appearances as well all right on Twitter a law radio our poll is expiring soon so make sure that you check it out it's about the eight seeds in the east one of them was already on the verge of a championship series the other well it's now just one step away I think that the cool thing about the two teams in South Florida is that they're defying odds and they are carving out their own path yes but each of them has come so close only to trip up fall short that's a great motivator I you know me I love these stories of redemption whether individual or team so we'll talk about those panthers who've got a first from Bobby between the pipes Bobby do you think his family and friends call him Bobby or just Bob what about Bob I guess they're all Bobby's true it could be a family of Bobby it's just a Bobby family it's after hours with Amy Lawrence on CBS Sports Radio you are listening to the after hours podcast and it's Sam Reinhart taking the draw a pullback near point Montour down here on the near side then down behind the net Bennett off to the near corner kachuk kachuk in front right on a shot tough jump he scores a power play goal Sam Reinhart just under the crossbar and the panthers strike first just past the game's halfway point it's one nothing cousins will clear this bounces into the Carolina zone the final seconds tick away and it's a 32 save shutout for Sergei Bobrovsky the panthers take game three they take a 3-0 stranglehold on the eastern conference final and the Florida panthers are one win away from a berth in the Stanley cup final clinical a one nothing victory for the panthers here on home ice tonight and they take a 3-0 series lead they don't ask how they just ask how many this is after hours with Amy Lawrence an exuberant Florida panthers radio team Doug Plagans and company there on the final calls the goal and the final calls of what was a could it be any tenser one nothing shutout of the panthers over the hurricanes it's crazy to think that this series has been so tight five overtimes now four of those were in the first game but five total overtimes and now a one nothing shutout the margin for error is so slim and before we hear from the panthers including including Bob in a family of Bob's he was hearing the chance of Bobby Bobby inside the arena from 20 000 of his closest friends but can you hear the frustration in Rob Bryn Damore's voice they've done everything they could possibly do and just can't buy a win in three games I mean we can't do much more I mean we like how we're playing clearly it's just we got to find a way to put one in and then you know I mean defensively giving up nothing you know really in three games we you would have said to me you got one of the highest you know the potent offenses you're playing and you give them 20 shots a night I mean you'd be pretty happy with um it's just we're damn we're creating offense I think we hit I don't know felt like we hit a couple posts and I mean two or three and we're you know it's there for us it's just we gotta we gotta find a way to put it in what else can we do what else can we do is essentially the question that Rob Bryn Damore is asking and I'm sure many of the hurricanes feel the same way there's always a call here or there that could go the other direction there was a possible high stick from Sam Reinhardt he's actually the one who scored the goal on the power play for the panthers and so you had that moment late that potentially could have set up a penalty but that's not why they're trailing 3-0. Sergei Bobrovsky has been a revelation he's been an anchor a goalie who's playing this well gives a team such incredible confidence now there's no such thing as impenetrable when it comes to a goalie right because he's still a human being he can get out of he can get out of position he can get screened sometimes pucks hit the post but when you have a guy who is as stingy as he is who's playing inspired not only does it give confidence to the defense but it allows them to take a few more risks to be bold to be aggressive because they rely on him they count on him and in this case Sam Reinhardt did it feel like the one goal was enough no matter what the score is we're just we're just trying to make it as easy as possible on him you know our game plan doesn't change he's coming up with some big timely soft stops what you need and there are those breakdowns so you know yet again he's he comes up big for us he's been incredible all playoffs long it's it's it's really incredible to see and um you know it gives our team that much more confidence and that much more um belief uh even if they have a big push we know we got uh we we got a guy back there that's gonna you know fight and uh you know do whatever it takes so um it's uh it's a lot of fun playing when you have a goalie playing like that do you remember how babrovsky had 63 saves in the overtime four overtime game clinical nearly went to nearly went to five overtimes 63 saves is how he started the series and now his first career postseason shutout he only required only required half the number of saves as what he had in the opener but a shutout is a shutout is a shutout it's another you know great uh great opportunity to play hockey it's the building was great it's great to see our fans uh and my teammates did a great job you know all those little details block shots you know got good sticks and the gaps and everything all those small details so it's it's it's definitely a good result for us and uh it's it's a big team effort there's something to be said for momentum and i know in sports momentum is fleeting a real good team can stop an opponent's momentum with a few adjustments with defense for sure but both the heat and the panthers even as we ask you which one is on the more improbable dubious run the heat are what are they 10 and 3 in this playoff run 10 and 3 let's see 4 yeah they're 10 and 3 in this playoff run so far meanwhile the panthers have won 10 of their last 11 that also is confidence building especially for the panthers who barely made it into the stanley cup playoffs panthers can advance to the first franchise the franchise the first excuse me the first stanley cup final in franchise history since 1996 i was in college the panthers were a president's trophy winner going back last season but they didn't capitalize so again consider their arc the frustration the disappointment the dejection feeling like they fell flat on their face and failed and yet they have the pieces the veterans the experience to recognize what they have to do when they get there now i would say they got some help just to get into the playoffs and there was a chance they were going to miss the playoffs so they get some help from the penguins who don't take care of their business but once they're in once you're into the postseason you're in and you got the same opportunity as every other team so yeah they could reach their first stanley cup final since 96 on wednesday if they complete the sweep that's that's crazy to think about isn't it that you had a sweep in the west in hoops we could have a sweep in the east in hoops we could have a sweep in the east in hockey where the game they're a game behind in the west meaning the east started first right so the the west comes up on tuesday night but right now vegas is up 2-0 so far the team that's leading all four of these series has not dropped a game in this conference finals do you think it's ever happened there's no way it's never happened that all four were sweeps i don't i don't think there's no way you wouldn't think that'd be the case at this point in the finals i mean that's why the nba schedules the the championship to start you know a week from now because they expect it to go at least six at least five six seven not swept in both series that's unheard of yeah i would be stunned if the celtics were swept it may happen it may happen because the game's in miami but i would think how they were humiliated on sunday would play a role in the way they come out now the heat they rally fourth quarter deficits are nothing to the miami heat as in absolutely nothing and if jason tatum doesn't get his act together in the fourth quarter the celtics are sunk but i i don't think i would automatically say it's a sweep i would think the celtics would be embarrassed to lay down in this game four that comes up on tuesday and yeah vegas and dallas are a game behind so the east started first but they get back on the ice tuesday now in dallas i'd also be stunned if the stars were swept out but bert the first two games have been won in overtime by the golden knight so that's how slim the margin for for error and the margin of victory so again take our poll it's on twitter a law radio or our show twitter what we're asking you is considering their paths to this point which team has made the more unlikely improbable run also if you would like to see what pink peony power is well it's now up on our facebook page 2 after hours with amy lawrence those are my babies they only bloom once a year for maybe a week and a half they're they're almost entirely open not not quite there's still a few buds that haven't bloomed yet but they make me so happy i wait all year for them and they come at the same time that i'm celebrating my anniversary as a homeowner so it's been three years and they just give me i can't they give me such joy i can't really adequately describe how much joy i get from the flowers at my home it gives you that tingle no it's more than that but these flowers because of what they represent because they were blooming when i signed the papers they they're special to me so special to me i don't really have to do much to them other than prop them up so they don't fall over because they're heavy the flowers are heavy so you have to put metal grates or metal supports on legs around them as they're growing up and i still didn't probably support them high enough because they are after the rain they did droop over some but on monday they stood back up again proud and tall and pink and powerful so check them out on twitter or facebook my gift to you on this monday morphing into a tuesday we're glad to have you with us you are listening to the after hours podcast we welcome all kinds here on after hours alex in virginia wants to weigh in hey what's going on amy us as humans we like to see these numbers numbers will be able to figure out what is quantitatively wait i'm sorry what was that number alex try i'll give you another shot at that number quantitatively quantitatively quantitatively thank you you don't have the internet frank no i don't have the internet amy oh that's too bad i'm sorry you're missing out it's a great new tool oh i know it's awkward hour here on cbs sports radio so matt what do you think matt i'm sorry a lot that's the second awkwardness that we've had hey peter did you know you're part of our hall of flame induction hello hi hi i'm sure you just caught me with a little bit of muffin in my mouth i just got away from mcdonald's he was he was great radio here's amy lawrence and people wonder why we don't take more phone calls on this show no okay i have to ask you a question honest question before we tell you about our great experience over the weekend we'd have a chance to do it on our sunday night show and our audience is different on monday night anyway but we've gotten a great reaction so i thought we would talk about it but before that this tweet not quite directed at me but includes my handle which meant it ended up in my feed it caught me off guard i'll be honest so here's how it goes you know when when you quote tweet it turns into this big old thread right so i don't know where this thread started or how but someone named kj smith put the tweet out there what sounds do you fall asleep to which in and of itself is an interesting question i suppose i'm a person in case you're wondering who does not have tv or radio on maybe because i work in the business that does not calm me down and help me to sleep i usually have a fan on so that it can mask whatever outside noise there is during the week specifically at night my neighborhood is very quiet but i do like to have a fan on it doesn't make a lot of noise but it covers over penny snoring or her moving around or just the funny noises she makes when she's sleeping and so there's a fan generally sometimes the windows open but i just like quiet if i need to i put something over the ear that's not buried in the pillow so i'll sometimes put sleep pants like a rolled up pair of sleep pants over my my top ear during the daytime in case it's loud outside someone's leaf blowing or mowing the lawn or trucks are driving by i don't know whatever it is but i generally don't fall asleep to any sounds actually other than the fan which i say it doesn't make a lot of noise so dante quote tweets this question what sounds do you fall asleep to and he writes sports talk radio usually a law radio wait for it her voice is so soothing jay just made a face he clearly does not think my voice is soothing don't even act like you didn't make a face you liar you're trying to pretend like that wasn't a face i saw your reaction was like oh not soothing that was more to the context of the tweet where i wasn't sure if he was making it as like an insult or if it was gonna go the other direction when he went and said soothing was it no when i said the word soothing you went oh there's a reaction yes oh my gosh yes you did i was looking right at you jay's trying to lie his way out of this now it wasn't even a sergei babrovsky kick save and a beauty he made a reaction a face that essentially was a with a frown it was a frowny face around it was a frowny face dante says my voice is what he falls to sleep to most of the time because it's so soothing now i have no problem with people falling asleep to the show does not bother me at all first of all if you fall asleep and the radio stays on guess what we get credit for the ratings and time spent listening even if you aren't listening the fact that your radio is still set to our show means that counts those ratings they accrue so we're good with you falling asleep to our show and if that's what you need great i'm all about giving you what you need a full service operation here on after hours i get it because i know these hours are hard but soothing as in dulcet as in calm as in quiet i don't even have an indoor voice and while i generally don't rant i'm not a ranter i hate hot takes it like that whole brand of radio is not my thing you know me better than that i don't know that my voice doesn't generally rise and fall i laugh how can anyone be sleeping while i'm howling with laughter and i do sometimes when i make up words i absolutely laugh at myself what was the word last week that i laughed at so hard that i couldn't shoot what i was it it was a good one nuggets and was it nuggets luggets and nakers no it wasn't that it was i essentially switched the first two consonants of a couple of words and and had them backwards but i don't remember what it was who did the nuggets play last round they didn't play the warriors they played the sons that's what it was it was it was suggits no it was suggits it was suggits and nuns right that's what it was it was suggits and nuns so i transposed the two consonants and made up two words and once i said it i couldn't stop laughing how does anyone ever remain asleep 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