After Hours with Amy Lawrence PODCAST: Hour 4

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There's a lot to listen to, so get started and download the free Odyssey app today. I'm Larry Mullins, host of the podcast, Your Weirdest Fears, the show that explores the odd things that make your heart stop. I am so scared of the Grinch.

He is bad vibes. We talk to everyone from therapists to exterminators to lizard man. I was 25 when I actually got my tongue split.

I have one tattoo that covers my entire body. Listen and subscribe on the Odyssey app or wherever you get your podcasts from. Ooh, that dramatic music. That'll wake you up on a Tuesday morning. Depending upon your perspective, you wake up full of fire and energy and ready to go.

Well, if you're like me, that never happens until after you have coffee. But let's just say for the sake of argument, you've had your coffee and you hear that music and your team is still alive in the playoffs and you are fired up and ready to go. But we are down to a final four.

I would also tack on this. If you're a Jaguars fan, your future, your tone is anticipation and excitement. How many times did Trevor Lawrence use the word excitement in his exit interview on Monday? There's hope now.

They can't wait to get started in the spring. Even the Giants. How many times I've heard Giants fans say over the past couple of days, we weren't even supposed to be here.

This was more than I expected for my team this season. This is why you often will hear human beings. Now, it's a certain personality.

It's a little bit like the cup half full or cup half empty argument. Depending upon the type of human you are, how often will you get people to say, hey, you lower your expectations, you won't be disappointed. That applies here. I have some friends like that, but see, I'm the opposite.

I can't help it. My expectations are always sky high. For me, because that's what I can control, but for other people too. And I will say very plainly, there are a lot of times when interactions, conversations, clearly dates, relationships don't meet those expectations and I am left with disappointment.

But I can't change it. Some of my family and friends, they'll say to me, just lower your expectations. Now, can I keep my expectations at bay? Meaning expect that things are not going to work out, kind of expect that the track record is going to be the same.

Well, sure, that helps sometimes, but it only tricks me for so long. I am a girl that's full of expectations. I always am looking ahead, believing the best of me, of the people I care about, of my teams.

Well, not all my teams. But there are a lot of people in life that are good at keeping their expectations super low for the express purpose of not being disappointed. There are some people that won't even get in the arena because they don't want to fail. The disappointment is too great for them to bear. Now, these football players, they put hard soul, blood, sweat and tears into a very long season that stretched back months now. And the higher the expectations, the greater the disappointment, the loftier the expectations and the aspirations, the harder the fall.

And we're seeing two examples and then a great contrast, you know, a real stark contrast between where the Jaguars and Giants are on this Tuesday morning versus where the Cowboys and the Bills are on this Tuesday morning and how they feel. And yes, emotions, they tend to ebb and flow. The immediate emotions of dejection, devastation, pain, all of these are ways to express incredible disappointment. Those emotions will, they'll wane. And when you play sports for a living, or even if you played college sports, you recognize you can't stew over a terrible loss or a dreaded disappointment because what does it do?

It then impacts your ability to perform moving forward. So yes, these guys are going to have to at some point shut the door. They've had to for the past two seasons in Buffalo's case specifically. With the Cowboys, whether you go, and I think you should go back to before Mike McCarthy was hired, maybe even when Dak Prescott took over as quarterback, I'm not really sure. You Cowboys fans can determine how long you feel like this disappointment or the expectations have been high enough that the disappointment has been palpable. Not all disappointment is created equal.

And that's where I am on this Tuesday morning. Not all disappointment is created equal. When you hear Josh Allen talk about the season coming to an end. When you hear Josh Allen talking about coming so close again, you can hear that pain, that agony, right? The thrill of victory, the agony of defeat. You can hear the agony of defeat in his voice. There's a lot of love in this locker room for each other. But at the same time, I'm sick to my stomach.

I know a lot of guys in the locker room are as well. We want to win a Super Bowl. That's our goal and that's our mindset every time we step out on the field.

And each and every year, that'll never change. It sucks feeling like you're close and not being able to accomplish it. I know it's been the last three years with a very similar feeling.

We've got to continue to push forward and find a way to get over this hump and set out to accomplish what we want. Just so many emotions all at the same time. And then just a lot of disappointment, a lot of sadness. The team will look completely different next year. There's always going to be a couple teammates you might be closer to that might not be here. Just working all year for the same goal and just coming up short again is very frustrating. But then again, you learn a lot of things about yourself through times like this.

And it's going to give us a lot of good things to build on and things to learn from moving forward. So first Josh Allen and then Dawson Knox. Lost his brother during the season. Found some solace in football with his teammates. That franchise has been through a lot this year.

Yes, DeMar Hamlin. The couple of huge snow events that claimed the lives of locals. Presumably they were Bills fans because everybody is. And yet you saw hope and help. In the midst of all of this, the Bills always provide joy. Well, I wouldn't say always.

They provide a distraction. Very often they provide joy, at least in this iteration of the Bills under Sean McDermott with Josh Allen. And yet three times in a row they have come up short. I would say the AFC Championship three seasons ago against the Chiefs. That was supposed to be the springboard and now they've run into Chiefs 13 seconds overtime and the Bengals on their own field. That disappointment is not the same as the Jacksonville Jaguars.

But I don't need to tell you you can hear it. Even as Trevor Lawrence talks about disappointment, there is hope and there is excitement and he can't wait to get to get started on next year. Just kind of hunger that's left after coming up short. You know, I think everybody feels that and really excited moving forward. And that's like we said after the game. What we said today is like we set a new standard and that's that's kind of we're not going to settle for anything less.

And obviously there's more out there for us. So when Trevor Lawrence talks about the Jaguars playoff run, winning the AFC South with what was a surge through the second half of the season, catching the Titans or actually passing the Titans being the first place team. But then winning that division title Saturday night under the lights, a primetime game. This is an opportunity that I don't want to say they weren't expecting.

Yeah, it was a great goal. But how many people actually believed it when they rattled off five losses in a row? It's almost like they were starting over again.

And yet look where they ended up in the divisional round. Trevor Lawrence does not sound devastated. He doesn't sound sad. In fact, I bet he's not.

You can't really fake that, right? Even though these two teams exited in the same exact place. Not all disappointment is created equal. Now we haven't heard from the Cowboys exit interviews yet other than we heard from Mike McCarthy on Monday. There's not a couple of leftovers from the game.

Not really anything earth shattering. We're going to hear from the players again at some point this week. And we know that Jerry Jones labeled their loss as sick. Well, labeled the fan base as sick. The team, sick.

The family, the Cowboys brain trust, feeling sick. Not sick as in a compliment because these days, you know, some people use it as a compliment. I have one girlfriend who sounds like producer Jay. Every time I tell her something super cool, she's like, sick. Oh, my gosh.

I have to hear it from you and from producer Jay. Good. It's not actually sick. It's the opposite of sick. Good word. I mean, I've actually caught myself saying it a couple of times.

So you two are bad influences on me. The New York Giants are in the same space as the Jaguars. One ten games, if you can, if you include the the first playoff win since their Super Bowl run in eleven.

They're already focused on the future. Just in general, Brian Deball is more businesslike, less emotional, unless he's spontaneously combusting on the sidelines. But when you get him in a press conference, he's more even keel. Gruff, actually. He tends toward the gruff.

Both he and Joe Shane. They're optimistic. They know what needs to be done and they're already focused on doing it. That is not the case with the rival Giants in the NFC East or with the Bills. Oh, wait, I'm sorry. I was talking about the Giants.

This is where the wheels threaten to come off so violently. It's not the case with the Cowboys, the rival Cowboys in the NFC East or with the Buffalo Bills. It's after hours with Amy Lawrence on CBS Sports Radio. I mentioned this before the top of the hour. We're double fisting it on our polls today. We've got not only your TD of the week, which we couldn't do last week. There was no way anybody was going to beat Sam Hubbard. But also, how how could we possibly be equitable and fair when there were six winners and we only had four spots in a Twitter poll. So we were going to we just for one for once.

I didn't want to deal with people yelling at me on social media. He's on my ass. Plus, how do you beat Sam Hubbard? It was the longest go ahead touchdown in fourth quarter playoff history and also the longest fumble return for a touchdown in NFL postseason history.

So take that. But we do have four winners this week, so conveniently it fits into a poll. So your dynamic divisional round left us with four four contenders for a Super Bowl. And they had some pretty impressive moments along the way. A lot of you were answering our question of what impressed you the most, whether team or individual. Brock Purdy, a ton of votes, got a lot of votes for George Kittle, his teammate who caught that one handed off his helmet juggling catch. We got a ton of responses for the Bengals as a team, but also for the Jaguars, for Trevor Lawrence and the way that he's handled his business over the past couple of weeks.

Trying to think of the others that were real lightning rods. Jalen Hurts, to be sure. The Eagles, a lot of votes for the Niners defense, but also the Bengals defense and the Bengals offensive line that was missing three starters.

Joe Burrow, absolutely. So yeah, there was a mixed bag, but there were a lot of ways that we were impressed. Which touchdown though impressed you the most? Because that's our TD of the Week poll. And then we're asking you in poll form as well on Twitter, which team suffered the more disappointing end to their season?

To be fair, and you know me, I try to give you all angles of every debate and every topic. There was one guy who was very optimistic and this is his personality. He also didn't play in the games this weekend and he wasn't out there on the field as the Bills were getting dominated by the Bengals on both sides of the ball. Von Miller though is trying to remind people that they are still a very good team and that the window is not closing. I came here to have multiple shots at winning the Super Bowl.

I came here, you know, this wasn't my, I didn't feel like, you know, this would be my only shot, like this one year. I feel like I had multiple shots at the Super Bowl by the way this team was built by, you know, our quarterback, our defense. I feel like I had, you know, multiple changes at the Super Bowl and I still feel like that, man. And I'm super excited to, for year two with the Buffalo Bills, I'm super excited to line back up and do it all over again. I'm super excited to get back to Rochester and go through training camp and, you know, to be healthy again. So I'm super excited, man. And just because we lost to the Bengals, it doesn't diminish the type of team that we have.

It doesn't diminish, you know, our position in this league. Von Miller, super excited. I am willing to bet most of what I'm worth, which isn't much, that he said super excited more in that one particular answer than Josh Allen has said in say 48 hours. Or that Von Miller said super excited more than the entire rest of the Bills active roster did yesterday. Because that's, he's got tenacious optimism. It's one of the things I love about Von. The glass is always full. Forget half full. The glass is always full for Von Miller. He, that's how he approaches life and good for him because his teammates need that right now.

But at the same time, he's the aberration, not the rule with the Bills at this particular moment. So take our poll, whose exit was more disappointing? The loftier expectations, the Super Bowl aspirations. They leave you with a long, a precipitous drop. What did Brian Deball call it? A crash landing.

That's how it feels for the Cowboys and the Bills in these days after they bow out. So I think it's an interesting perspective. I'm a big study of human nature. A lot of times I focus more on the human element than I do on the X's and O's. Also, X's and O's are not as much fun on a radio show because you can't diagram.

Nobody's breaking down tape here in our studio. I do get caught in the weeds sometimes and then I think, uh, I don't know if this is good radio. Here I am talking about a particular play, a route in basketball. You know, a call that's been made, an out of bounds play. Golf, same thing.

Describing a putt. Not necessarily good radio. So I love the human element anyway because ultimately that's what sports is all about, right? You can have analytics out your rear end. You can put analytics where the sun don't shine until, you know, until you got nothing but analytics. But human nature, you can't always predict how it's going to go, especially not when it comes to teams. I mean, teams are not just, you know, a bunch of individual human beings, but how do they operate together? And to me, that's always been fascinating. Now coming up... Stats are for losers.

I mean, what's it going to go that far? Is that Kyle Shanahan? Who is that? Oh, that's Matt Lafleur.

I completely forgot. Wow. Stunning little drop there from producer Jay. He thinks he's so funny. Sometimes he gets me and there's nothing I can do except for laugh. He's in there like a mad scientist with his buttons that he's pushing. You can only see the grin on his face right now. He's so proud. He's also... Never mind. I'm not going to tell you.

I'm not going to tell you what he did to me earlier when I was telling you about my bad date. And Jay's in there dropping these like funny audio clips. Out of support. Really? Because they were not supportive clips. They were supportive. No, you're so lying. I mean, go back and listen to the podcast.

They were not supportive. He was in there howling with laughter. No. Well, I was laughing a little.

Yes, a little. You were definitely laughing. At least Marco was on my side and was like so angry on my behalf. Oh, I'm livid. Uh huh. You look livid.

Okay, coming up. Speaking of livid. I don't normally rant.

That's not the kind of radio I do. But I am ready to rant over one particular failing. I know. I know. This is social media where truth is optional. You've got to be kidding me, though. Just Twitter. You've gone off the deep end.

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So get started and download the free Odyssey app today. I'm Larry Mullins, host of the podcast, Your Weirdest Fears. The show that explores the odd things that make your heart stop. I am so scared of the Grinch. He is bad vibes. We talk to everyone from therapists to exterminators to lizard man. I was 25 when I actually got my tongue split.

I have one tattoo that covers my entire body. Listen and subscribe on the Odyssey app or wherever you get your podcasts from. It's After Hours with Amy Lawrence on CBS Sports Radio.

You are listening to the After Hours Podcast. I definitely saw it. I had a smile on my face. Just seeing that he was able to make it to the game. It was all good to see. Just his presence is a warm feeling.

Obviously, we wanted to play for him and continue our mission. We just ran into a team that played better than us tonight. This is After Hours with Amy Lawrence. The voices of T. Higgins, Cincinnati Bengals wide receiver, and Josh Allen, just two of the athletes who were in Orchard Park at the stadium on Sunday talking about DeMar Hamlin and what it meant to see him in person before the game. Then the reports were that DeMar was in the locker room with the Bills at halftime as well.

There are no cameras in there, in case you're wondering. It's After Hours with Amy Lawrence on CBS Sports Radio. A few hours ago, when I got into work to start prepping for the show, I generally set up my computer.

The laptop here and one of the first websites I log into or open up is Twitter. I realized that DeMar Hamlin's name was trending, and I got really excited. I was thinking there was an update on his health because it's been a lot of good news lately. I know he still requires oxygen, but we saw him on the big screen as well as there are videos, there are photos of him in Orchard Park in Buffalo.

His family was there, including his seven-year-old little brother who was sitting next to him in the suite. I know that when DeMar was shown on camera in the suite, not only on TV, but they were doing it coinciding at the same time they were showing him in the stadium, the fans were going crazy. And you've got eyewitness accounts of DeMar being there.

Actually, a photo he took with a mural, a brand new mural that has been painted near the stadium. I'm not exactly sure where, but there's plenty of people who saw DeMar. And yet, when I clicked on his name, at the time there were 28,000 tweets about DeMar Hamlin, you can imagine my surprise that it wasn't a new update on his health or even people responding to a tweet about him. No, it was people disseminating this conspiracy theory that it was a body double in Buffalo and that he's actually not okay, he can't leave his house, that wasn't him.

And get this, taking it a step further, that the NFL trotted this body double out there, got his family, the Bengals, and the Bills to play along so that they would have higher ratings or so that they would have this moment where they can convince people this is such a great piece of the NFL season. Now, I've got a pretty long history with Twitter, so it's not a surprise that people can be awful. And of course, truth is optional when it comes to Twitter and Facebook. But this to me was extra gross, and also I think you really need to suspend any common sense to believe this conspiracy theory. And I'll tell you why.

There's a few reasons that debunk it immediately. Number one, his family. Again, a seven-year-old brother?

Are you kidding me? Seven-year-old brothers don't know how to fake it like that. Number two, there's no way his parents go along with this. Now, I don't know them personally, but their concern right now is for their son still as he recovers.

There is no way his family would agree to this conspiracy to have their son used as a prop, essentially. Number two, do you remember the faces, the expressions, the tears, the fear, the anxiety, the devastation on his teammates' faces when he had to be resuscitated and suffered cardiac arrest and then was taken off the field in an ambulance? Do you remember what that looked like, how you felt, but also what they said about how they felt? His teammates were breaking down on the field. If you really believe there is even one Buffalo Bill player, or let's take it a step further, Sean McDermott, who was so devastated that he couldn't even fathom continuing a football game, he had to be with his athlete at the hospital. His childhood friend, Dane Jackson, who was also a college teammate, do you really think for a second any of these Buffalo Bills would go along with faking DeMar Hamlin in the stadium?

Not to mention they'd be lying to our faces. How many people not only talked about him being there and what a lift and encouragement it was, like Josh Allen that you heard to start the segment, but do you know there were photos too, right? Matt Milano shared a photo with DeMar Hamlin. These guys have social media, just go do some research, for the love of God.

For the love of DeMar Hamlin, go do some research. And then I'll give you this last thing, again, because this is a ridiculous conspiracy theory, and yet by the time I checked a few minutes ago, 29,000 tweets. And it's not people debunking the conspiracy, it's the opposite.

It's people with blue checkmarks and a ton of followers. I get it these days, anybody can be verified, but some of the people who are disseminating this conspiracy, maybe it's a game to them. But I'm stunned by this, that so many people would be duped by this idea that DeMar Hamlin wasn't actually there and the NFL was using this as a way to increase its ratings.

One last thing I'll tell you. And if you don't believe anything else I say about the Bills locker room, the NFL, who would never recover from this, right, they would never recover from this. But think about Troy Vincent, some of the other former players that were also so devastated and scared to death when DeMar Hamlin had to receive CPR on the field for eight minutes, nine minutes.

For two days, he wasn't awake. You really think Troy Vincent would go along with some kind of a cockamamie stunt like this, just for ratings? Come on. You may not believe in their integrity, but remember this, people don't keep secrets. We're talking about hundreds, over a hundred people, maybe more. But if you consider the two locker rooms, Bills and Bengals, for them to all go along with it, you're talking about over a couple hundred people, plus the NFL, his family, you really think, even if you believe all of them would go along with it, you really think that nobody would leak that? Come on.

This is 2023. Nobody keeps a secret. Why? Because it's too juicy for social. Nobody keeps a secret.

But it's insulting to think that the Bills would actually go along with something like this. There's no way. All I'm asking is for you to use a little common sense, please. Now, people have responded to me, even as I've talked about this now on the show a couple times, people have responded to me with, why haven't we seen him? Why was he wearing a mask? Why was the hoodie over his head? Why wasn't there a clear shot of him? Well, first of all, again, you haven't done your research because there are photos of DeMar with his teammates, as well as videos that come from different angles that are from the side in the suite.

So just do a little more searching besides the conspiracy theory. DeMar is wearing a mask because he's immunocompromised. He's wearing a mask because his lungs are not completely healthy, because he suffered damage to his lungs. He has to receive daily oxygen. So of course he's wearing a mask. He cannot afford to get sick.

It was probably a risk for him just to be there with 90,000 people. Security guards, elevator operators, suite. Would you call them waiter? No, not waiters. Suite attendants.

Thank you, Jay. All these people saw him and his family. You don't think any of them, if it was a body double, would have said anything? Would have popped the balloon, so to speak? He's wearing a hoodie because that's what 80% of 20-year-old males do.

Heck, my nieces are not male. A lot of times they wear their hoodies up over the top of their heads. That's just what people do. Also, did you ever consider this might be really hard for him, emotional for him? Did you ever consider that maybe he doesn't want his face to be seen because he's got tears, and he wants to be out there so badly, and knows that his NFL career might be over? Anybody ever consider that? That this might be a super emotional, painful experience for him?

He's trying to support his teammates and to be there because he knows it'll lift them up and encourage them, but how badly he wants to be playing and knows that he may never do it again. I mean, come on, you guys. Don't fall for that.

It's a word I can't say on the radio. Total crap. I don't rant very often. This is a chance where I need you to use a little common sense and recognize that this is wrong. And people have nothing better to do a lot of times. Twitter is full of trash.

So please believe the truth and start disseminating that on social media. It's After Hours with Amy Lawrence. I'm Larry Mullins, host of the podcast Your Weirdest Fears, the show that explores the odd things that make your heart stop. I am so scared of the Grinch. He is bad vibes. We talk to everyone from therapists to exterminators to lizard man. I was 25 when I actually got my tongue split.

I have one tattoo that covers my entire body. Listen and subscribe on the Odyssey app or wherever you get your podcasts from. Your playoffs, your Odyssey.

Get in the game and download the free Odyssey app today. You're listening to the After Hours podcast. It's a touchdown Tuesday on After Hours. Touchdown.

To cast your vote for the TD of the week, head to At After Hours CBS on Twitter or give us a call at 855-212-4227. The Kansas City Chiefs. Tenth play of the drive. 20 to 17, Chiefs. 722 to go in the game. Mahomes, again that right ankle is the one that's bothering him.

That's in front of the left. Feet staggered. McKinnon sprints in motion to the near flat. Mahomes now steps up in the pocket, throws light wide open back in the end zone. Touchdown. Kansas City, Marquez, Valdez, Scantling on a six-yard touchdown.

The Philadelphia Eagles. First and goal of the two. High snap.

Gift goes to Boston Scott. He pushes forward. He's in for the touchdown.

The giant killer has another one. He just runs under everybody. He's powerful. He's low to the ground.

And he has the moves to get the ball into the end zone. The Cincinnati Bengals. Hello. Have we had a computer crash in there, producer J?

You should see the look of bewilderment on his face. What happened? The Cincinnati Bengals. First and goal.

You already said that. He's got an inch, maybe a half an inch away from the goal line. T. Higgins motions. Lines up to the right. Right next to the right tackle.

Burrow. Hands it off. Mixon goes airborne. He's in. Waiting for the signal. Get in.

The officials walking toward the pile. Come on. No signal yet. Oh. Nope, he's short. They are not going to give it to Joe Mixon. Boy. So the Bengals have thrown the red challenge flag and they'll see if on replay it's a one-yard touchdown. Losing the ruling on the field.

Joe. Replay challenge is successful. It's a one-yard touchdown run for Joe Mixon. Bam. The San Francisco 49ers.

That took a while. 10th play of the drive. Six runs, three passes, two holes for Dallas, as you noted. Here we go. Looking to get in the end zone for the first time today and take the lead back. Oscar, Oscar, Oscar McCaffrey goes left.

Evo goes in motion. Oscar McCaffrey. Right. 30 out of the shotgun.

Kittle and Muschak are right. Ayut the other side. Handoff McCaffrey. Touchdown San Francisco. Hey, Jay, what's going on in there? How are you doing? Not laughing anymore, huh? You were giggling up a story about my bad date earlier, but now all of a sudden things got serious behind the double pane glass. Never laughing at you. Uh-huh. Don't change the subject. What just happened?

Why did we have to wait so long for the Cincinnati Bengals touchdown? My highlight, it's misplaced. You know, a good athlete never blames his equipment. A good artist never blames his tools.

I guess I could have just audibly done the play-by-play myself, but it sounds better when Dan Horne and Dave Lapham do it. I mean, you could have had a backup plan. I'm just saying is all. All right, those are your challengers. The four challengers step up to the plate, one from each winning team over divisional weekend. It's kind of a divisional drop back, if you will. We're giving you four options, asking you to pick the TD of the week. Mitch Holtus on Chiefs radio, Merrill Reese on Eagles radio, Dan Horne, Dave Lapham, much delayed, but they were actually there on Bengals radio and Greg Papa on Niners radio, along with Tim Ryan.

And so we've got four options and I actually love that we got a write-in vote for the Chad Hennie touchdown pass to Travis Kelce. That was critical for the Chiefs. It definitely settled down the team and kept the fans in it, even as Patrick Mahomes was sent to his locker room without supper. Now he was given an ultimatum, which is what he said. Are you needing an update on Patrick Mahomes, Andy Reid, not Pat, but Andy addressing the media on Monday about his QB?

He's worked hard in the treatment and is doing okay. He told you guys, I mean, he mentioned it to you that he's going to play. So I mean, that's his mindset and then we'll just take it day by day and see how he does. I'm not coming out of a playoff game unless they take me out. And so I'm just going to play, I love this sport too much. I love this game.

I love playing with my teammates and being able to go out there and enjoy it together. And we prepare all year to be in the playoffs and to play in these games and I'm glad that I was able to get back in the game and I mean, it's something that I just love competing in this sport and pain is pain and you got to deal with it either way. Pain is pain. You're going to deal with it either way. Might as well be out there. I'm going to have to be hobbling on this high ankle spray.

Might as well be productive while I'm dealing with it. That was Mahomes going back to Sunday, but he said, well, Andy Reid said, Pat's already told you he's playing. So you know, that's what he thinks essentially. I love that in their relationship, which is one of the most productive and also I would say one of the coolest, odd couples in sports, Andy Reid and Patrick Mahomes. That had to be a really tough decision for Andy and yet like a parent, like someone who cares more about the player than he does about the win, he did what was best for Pat. But you don't often see Pat in a bad mood on the sidelines, even when things don't go well. He's the hype man on the sidelines with the Chiefs.

He and Travis Kelce, another reason why they get along so well. And so he threw his coat down and throws a Tom Brady-like tantrum, only it was his coat, not a tablet. So no one got hurt.

The coat, I'm sure survived the incident and he marches off to the locker room. But because Andy said to him, either go now or you're not going in the game again. Oh, Andy Reid pulling the power trip. Do you think after that he was like, okay, we'll get cheeseburgers after the game?

I mean, that would be hard for me. And I just felt like that was such a tough position for Andy because he loves Pat, but that had to be done. They had to know if it was a broken leg, similar to Tony Pollard, right?

We had a few cheeseburgers together. See what I'm saying? It's After Hours with Amy Lawrence on CBS Sports Radio. So we don't necessarily know the future for Patrick Mahomes. This weekend, I'm hoping he's able to play, but it is worth noting he's not going to be able to scramble the same way that he did in the first half before he got hurt. The pocket closed relatively quickly with the Jaguars pressure and he was trying to escape, move around. That's a big chunk of his game. It's his ability to extend plays, elude pressure until he can find one of his receivers, a lot of times it's Kelcey, open and he can commit the ball downfield or a chasm, open opens up and he's able to run. It's also, I think, notable that he did not throw a pass outside the pocket after he got hurt. So the pocket was crumbling, O-line needs to take real pride in protecting their QB. They were picking him up a bunch. He never did throw another pass outside the pocket, meaning he wasn't extending plays, eluding the pressure to the point where he could still throw. He was just kind of moving around in the pocket as best he could. But as I told some of my 4th grade boys who asked me about it on Sunday at church, 85% of Patrick Mahomes, 80% of Patrick Mahomes is still better than pretty much anything else. Though yeah, Chad Hennie is also a viable piece of the offense.

It's after hours, CBS Sports Radio. Can't know the future for the AFC Championship, can't know the future for Tom Brady. In fact, you really can't even ask him right now. Jim, if I knew what I was going to f***ing do, I'd have already f***ing done it.

Okay, I'm taking a day at a time. I sense you're antagonized by the question. You're scratching. It's only the question that everybody wants to hear. You're scratchy.

I appreciate your asking, thank you. I love that Jim Gray refuses to get upset. He's not going to get offended. I mean, he and Tom have a friendship that goes way back. But how great is that, that Jim's like, hmm, did I touch a nerve? I sense you're antagonized by the question.

Good for you, Jim Gray. Also, Tom Brady, who are you scaring? No one's intimidated by you. You're a 45 year old man that has cinder blocks for feet. Nobody is afraid of you.

I'm 45 years old, man. There's a lot of f***ing going on. Do you think he feels tougher when he drops f-bombs?

Yes. I mean, it is kind of funny, but also whoever did the job of bleeping, I won't share his name. There's no need to get him in trouble. He didn't do a thorough job. Can we hear it again just for fun?

It makes me think Tom Brady's tough for like a nanosecond. Jim, if I knew what I was going to f***ing do, I'd have already f***ing done it. Oh, wait, what word was that? Jim, if I knew what I was going to f***ing do, I'd have already f***ing done it.

He talks to him like he would talk to like a brother or sister. Are you freaking kidding me? Stop asking me this question. Jim. Jim, if I knew what I was going to f***ing do, I'd have already f***ing done it.

Okay, I got you. Now that's going to be in my head all day long. Jim is not intimidated. Good for you, Jim Gray. Who do you think you are? Tom Brady or something?

It's after hours here on CBS Sports Radio. Like I said, not all disappointment is created equal. And even as we talked about the Bills, the Cowboys were asking you, who suffered the more disappointing end to their season? I mean, Tom Brady was around ahead of that.

But yeah, you can hear the disappointment still very much present in his voice when he's not dropping f-bombs. You do think about it because you wanted it to be different. And when I look at our season, we didn't earn it. We just didn't earn it for a number of different reasons. And everyone's got different opinions and there's different learnings for everyone, whether you're a first year player, a 23rd year player, whether you're an older coach or younger coach, hopefully you always take something out of it.

If you didn't, you would always end up in the same place and no one wants to end up in the same place. Everyone wants to continue to achieve, to improve and get better. There's disappointment everywhere. Now, Josh didn't know, and Brady does too, that 31 teams end up disappointment, end up disappointing. Disappointed. You know what I mean? Stop it. Like you've never said that before.

I know I'm the one who talks for a living. All the teams end up in this space except for the winner. But not every disappointment is created equal. The Jags have no reason to be disappointed. I don't even think the Giants, it was embarrassing against the Eagles to be sure, but I don't think they have a reason to be disappointed either. You've got some great stories, some good fresh blood, some good seasons to build on. But then you've got the opposite, the Bills and Cowboys, who believed they were Super Bowl ready. So we'll hear more as we get close to the championship game about the four teams that are still remaining.

I did want to pass this along because I promised you an update. Jessica Pegula was out, is out in straight sets, so she does not reach the Australian Open semi-finals. She ran into a very tough Victoria Azarenka and was out 6-4 in the first set, and then it looks like 6-1 in the second.

I think it's 6-1. We were not unable to watch it. I thought it would be on broadcast TV.

But unfortunately it was on a streaming service, a plus service, so we weren't able to see it. Let me just update the scores one more time. Yeah, she lost 6-4, 6-1. So Pegula, she's reached three consecutive quarter-finals there at the Australian Open but will not advance to the semis for the first time down under. Later on, Tuesday night, actually eastern time, it's 10.30.

A pair of Americans face each other for a shot to get to the semi-finals of the Australian Open. So USA, USA. Have a great Tuesday. Crowds your Tuesday, baby. We'll be right back.

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