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You're excused or there's unexcused. Today's guests, host of NFL Red Zone, Scott Hansen, co-host of Good Morning Football, Jamie Urdahl. And now, sitting in for Rich, it's Tom Pelissero.

Welcome to another Rich Eyes and List show. I am Tom Pelissero sitting in the big chair for the third consecutive day. Join the ramp up to NFL training camps around the league with my boys here in the studio. What's up? Del Tufo is back.

TJ Jefferson. There are so many things about this time of year that excite me. We're literally going to have Scott Hansen right here to give us seven hours, well not seven hours, like 20 minutes of commercial free Scott Hansen talk. Are we going to quad box while we're here?

Do we have that capability? He's doing the gold zone as well. So he's going to talk Olympics with us, how they're doing the gold zone there. And I'm sure we're going to get into, we'll get into some red zone, some red zone talk as well, some NFL.

Jamie Urdahl, Good Morning Football is coming back in 10 days I believe, 11 days from now, July 29th. Very exciting. You know, there's... Brockman's here today too. We can't forget to... I'm here. I said Brockman.

Okay, I missed that. Let's say I just started with Del Tufo since he decided to take yesterday off to go watch some international basketball. Del's super naked, I walked out of the house this morning without my work bag. Did you put pants on because you were gallivanting around in shorts?

There was a lot of skin showing before the show. Absolute brain fart. No, no, here's what happened. I'm traveling today, so I'm not going to be here tomorrow. So we're going to play What's More Likely in hour two with you, Tom, as well. And you know, you're making sure you're going down your checklist, that you got everything. Do I have deodorant? Did I remember a dress shirt? Oh, I got a tie. You're doing a coast to coast destination wedding here, right?

Yes, correct. I'm going to the middle of nowhere, Maryland, which is not easy to get to. Is that literally the name of the town?

Honestly, it really might be. So if you see me out there in the woods, say hello. There's a lot of weird Maryland town names, so I was serious about it. I got a friend who lives in Cabin John, Maryland.

No way. Would you ever like, you're scrolling Zillow, like, where should I live? How about Cabin John? Let me tell you where I'm not living. Like Chevy Chase, Maryland. Chevy Chase is the greatest name. It's a real place.

Yes. Chevy Chase. So I got a connection in your neck of the woods, and then I got to go to Pittsburgh, and then I'm staying the night. And then my buddy is driving from Cleveland, so he's picking me up in my hotel in Pittsburgh.

And then it's two more hours to the middle of nowhere, Maryland. So it's like, you know, I got a lot going on in the brain this morning, and I'm trying to say goodbye to Sarah and Cage, and like, love you guys. I'll talk to you, you know, in a few hours. Dad's going to go do some gummies and drink 85 beers over the next three days while I go to work in the middle of nowhere.

Can I confirm or deny? Not a gummy guy yet, TJ. Shout out to Lenny. And where's he from? Lenny, I forget.

Lenny in Florida. So anyway, I just walk out of the house without, and I'm trying to watch Tiger in the car this morning. Very safe traffic. And then I park here, and I'm like, where's my bag? Oh, I was so upset.

That would have knocked it in. Where's my bag? I parked my car this morning, and he's got his trunk open, and he stands. I'm just like, look at him. I'm like, did I put it in the back?

I'd be so mad. Really? Do you have the suitcase for the trip, or is that still... Yes, no, that stuff did get loaded. And then, you know, I was taking the trash out this morning, and just total brain fart.

So the key question here, so I was sitting in the chair about six weeks ago. Shout out to her. She's probably listening. She's bringing the bag in a few minutes, so thank you so much.

Just skip over the gummies thing. Don't look through the bag too much. So I was sitting here in the chair about six weeks ago, and I was out here because I had a friend who had a wedding in Pasadena. He lives in LA.

You're showing a lot of ankle that day. It was a destination for me, not for him or his fiancee, now wife, but we had a very, I think, in-depth conversation about a wedding gift, which my friend was listening and watching live. Oh, nice. What did he say? I got him a gift. It wasn't even a question.

It wasn't even a question in my mind. It's a first wedding. Is this a first wedding for your friend?

Yeah, first wedding. And are you giving a gift? No, I'm the gift. I'm literally having a connection and a two-hour drive. Where are you connecting through? Your hometown, Minneapolis. That's not a gift. That's a gift to you, that you get to go through the best airport in America.

It is pretty good. But then I gotta go to Pittsburgh. I gotta hotel tonight and stay in Pittsburgh.

Then we got two hours in the middle of nowhere. Send me the gates at Minneapolis. I can give you the entire, the layout, where if you're closest to the good steakhouse that's in that airport. I don't know how much time I have in between. I gotta look to see what my connection time is. Only airport in the country where I'm like, I should just, you know, I should play it safe and get there about three hours.

Just explore a little bit. Have a nice meal. Is there a hotel in the airport or is that Detroit? The Intercontinental is connected to that airport.

I will soon be making my way through many airports. And another thing I got excited for when I woke up this morning, and I had the, let me pull it up. I want to give the actual, the actual itinerary here because we go through, you know, we have the travel people at NFL Network setting everything up as we get set to hit the road here.

And let's, let's pull it up here. So I'm doing the standard. This is pretty, I think this is a common trip for everybody. I'm fully booked for Minneapolis to Detroit, to Green Bay, to Kansas City, to Denver, to LAX, to Phoenix, to Atlanta, to Pittsburgh, to San Jose, to Seattle, to Minneapolis. And that does not include, that does not include the multiple stops I am driving to because I believe I drive from Pittsburgh to Cincinnati, to Indianapolis in there as well.

So if you're, if you're scoring at home, that is all four time zones over 12 days on Back Together Weekend inside training camp on NFL Network, all four time zones, crisscrossing from East Coast to Pacific Coast time zones twice, two cents in each of those. So the next time that you see me live, I'm not going to know where I am. I'm not going to know what's going on, how I got there. But I wake up this morning to two things. I wake up to how many different polo shirts during the course. So they sent me three. That's it? That's it? Which is... Oh, that's not enough. So I, yeah, they sent, they sent three, but now this will be my eighth year at NFL Network.

I've got the closet full. We've had many different places have made the polo, the polos through the years here. We're now Antigua. That is our official, our official sponsor.

We've been instructed in no uncertain terms not to wear any of the other previous polo sponsors. So I've got to put all those ones, make sure those aren't there. I've probably got 12 of them. But so a couple of years ago, I was doing a similar type of trip where I'm all over the place and I'm on the road for the entire, roughly two weeks of inside training camp.

And I get to, it was in Detroit and I'm like, you know, this is like day five, day six. I've got half my stuff has been used, right? I'm not going to recycle polos or any of the various sundries that I may have in my bag. I'm also not going to do laundry. I don't, I don't have time to do it. So I go to the US post office. I take out, it's a full post office. I take out the laundry bag and just shake it into one of those prepaid boxes, like 22 bucks you can priority mail to anywhere in the country. But yeah, I got a few looks, but I just, I buy a thing of tape. I tape the thing up, I mail it back to my house. I address it to myself.

Okay. To Tom Pellicero in Plymouth, Minnesota. I get a text from Sarah two days later, Tom, what the bleep is this?

And it's just the bat, the box open, which I'm sure you, you vacuum in dirty, sweaty laundry from full days of training camp for a couple of days and mail them through the postal service. What were you thinking? Well, I'm like, I, it had my name on it. She's like, Oh, I thought maybe you were sending me a gift. I'm like addressed to me. I wonder what Tom got me.

Oh, it's jockey boxer briefs. Fantastic. I get to do your laundry now.

It was a perfectly logical thing. Cause you don't put dirty drawers and melon to yourself. Why would she wants the alternative? There's no, there's no time. I'm in a different, it's an overnight thing.

There's very few hotels you can get to. They'll do it same day. If they do, it's like drop it off before 7 AM. You get it back 7 PM in your bathroom. No, no, that's way worse. I don't think anything's worse to dry.

What do you do then? It's not enough time to dry. So I'm putting wet stuff back in the suitcase, bro.

No blow dry. I spent a lot of time shooting sports documentaries on the road. So we picked up tricks.

Yeah. You got to learn up tricks. I blow dryer works. Listen that you, when you see the suitcase the first time I will send you guys a photo. You can use it on the show for the next time that I appear the suitcase with 12 polos, 12 of everything else, like three pairs of shorts and a couple of pairs of shoes. Okay.

This is a carry on plus toiletries. My blender that I take everywhere. I make protein shakes everywhere. Again, I'm running around so much. I don't have time.

The blender inevitably gets confiscated when I'm going through one of the New York, New Jersey airports every year, I lose the blender. So then I just, you know, I order a new one and I pick it up. But so by halfway through, you're like, it's the biggest relief in the world when you're not hauling the giant bag of laundry and trying to stuff that on top.

That's a good call actually. So last year I warned Sarah, I'm like, just so you know, I'm going to do it again. So I got to, I don't remember where I was last year.

It was same thing. It was like halfway through the trip. I usually do it after like, there's one where I drive a couple of legs and that's like, okay, I got to get back on the planks. Then you just throw the laundry in the back of the rental car and you just leave it there. So your draws in the back of the rental car and return it. No, not return it.

I'd say when I'm going from city to city, like in the middle of this trip, I've got that driving leg from, from Latrobe PA to Cincinnati, Indianapolis, somewhere in there. I'll probably mail it back. But last year. So I get there. I'm like, I told her, I'm like, just so you know, I love this, not a gift. Okay. You're going to do not open. You're going to get the laundry right on the box.

It was Tom Pellissero. I underlined my name. That's all I wrote all over it. Laundry, laundry, not a gift.

And I wrote it on all sides. Which I feel bad then for the guys transferring that box because they're thinking, well, I'm handling somebody's underwear here. I don't really see an alternative to this. So to the original point, I got to say for two things this morning, one was getting the itinerary. And then of course, mentally as I'm, as I'm on the Peloton bike this morning, you know, thinking through when am I going to mail back the laundry? By the way, the worst person, the worst person on earth right now is the one who comes down to the hotel gym and mindlessly and slowly pedals on the Peloton, like not doing anything, just like on their phone like this.

And it's just like, you're not accomplishing anything. There's one Peloton in the hotel gym. So I got a crap Peloton ride, but I was daydreaming about the trip. And then I get off the Peloton. So I'm not checking my phone.

I'm not an animal. And I start seeing the videos of the Texans players walking onto the practice field. This is it boys. We're 49 days out. This is a full squad practice. This ain't the rookies. This is the first day. It's probably 115 degrees right now in Houston, which is why they're staying.

I believe they're staying in Cleveland for a little bit of the, of the training camp tour to, to get out of the heat. But you see actual football. They're not, not, you know, it's not a fully padded practice yet, but they're out there on the field. Your, your social media timeline, your ex timelines can be filled with play by play a seven on seven. Some people get excited for the trailer for the new Marvel movie.

There's some people it's the, it's the snippet of the first single off the band's record. I get turned on by the first day of guys walking onto the field. And think about this.

This is also the texting shame you, Tom. It's the perfect team. It's the perfect team to open this up because the Texans are the symbol of hope for the entire NFL. Your team's been kicked around and downtrodden. You could be in the lowest of low, the Texans.

I had to look it up this morning from 2020 to 2022. That's three seasons, hot garbage. They won 10 total games, 10 38 and one. They had three different head coaches in that span for, if you include Romeo Cornell as the interim coach for all, but the first four games when he took over for bill O'Brien, D'Amico Ryan's made the fifth one. They lost out on the number one pick in last year's draft because Lovey Smith won a meaningless week 18 game over the Colts, literally like two hours before they fired him, the plane, the plane lands, they get off, he goes to the facility and they fire him instantly. And that was the difference between number one or quite possibly they take Bryce young. And number two, they take CJ Stroud, who is the breakout star, the offensive rookie of the year for every moron who makes the points of like, you know, rooting for the draft to blow up and players should be able to go wherever they want.

If you want these stories to exist, if you want competitive hope and parody, this is how it happens. Because if you're really bad, you get the better draft picks and you have more opportunities. It helps when you trade a quarterback who's got no future on your team for three first round picks.

That definitely does not hurt. But last year at this time, I remember it was probably first week of training camp and I was down there on another 115 degree day with Jane Slater and talking to people. And like, I was watching practice and CJ Stroud's hooking up with Tank Dell. And I'm like, man, like this looks pretty good. And every, every coach I talked to was like, Oh, just, Whoa, just say, Hey, like, take it easy here. This is going to be a process. I'm like, Oh, but like, you guys win like eight, nine games.

Like you're heroes. It's like, Whoa, no, year one. But sure enough, they, they got on a roll during the early portion of the season. Now you got Nick Casario, the general manager of the, of the Houston Texans, who goes to the podium this morning and is talking about tempering playoff expectations. Our expectations are for the players is to come in, have a good attitude, put a good foundation in place, be a great teammate, be resilient. Cause we're going to face some things as a team. We're going to face some things individually and put the best version of yourself on a field each day. So, I mean, the results will take care of themselves.

So what's said outside of the building? I mean, it has no impact on anything that we do. Talking never won games, expectations never won games, good football and good execution win football games.

So ultimately that's what it's going to come down to. So the rest of it, honestly, it's a big waste of time for us to spend time on things that don't matter or that we don't control. We're going to focus on the controllables, focus on the things that we can do on a day-to-day basis. Focus all of us on being the best versions of ourselves. What can we do to help the team? And as a player, what can you do to be a great teammate and just maximize your performance and put yourself in a position so you have an opportunity to be competitive on the field on Sunday?

So that's where our focus is on a day-to-day basis. Yes, Nick Casario worked for like 20 years with Bill Belichick. That was a fantastic minute. Nothing. What did he say?

Absolutely not. I love Nick, man. He's a unique character. He's put together a heck of a roster in Houston, but he's never going to play into it. He probably would have said similar types of stuff last year when no one was thinking anything. But now all of a sudden you're the team that went out and traded for Staphon Diggs.

You trade it for Joe Mixon. You signed Daniel Hunter to a monster deal for a couple of years to pair him with Will Anderson Jr. up front. And that had me thinking this morning, you know, who is the next team that's going to come out of nowhere?

It is really hard to truly come out of nowhere because we can, we can bend our minds to believe anybody is going to be good, right? We've talked up teams that haven't been to the playoffs in years. We've talked up the bears so much and they are correct me if I'm wrong, Rob, and I believe they're a betting favorite to make the playoffs this season. If not, they're at least to be like a nine, 10 win team and be on the precipice. The Chargers, Chargers went five and 12 last season, but I think everyone in the world expects they're going to find their way to the playoffs. Now they've got Jim Harbaugh there with Justin Herbert. You got teams like, you know, the Bengals were a last place team last season. They won nine games.

Didn't have Joe burrow. Now everyone's thinking, hey, even in a stack type of division, they should be there. I got a couple ideas. We got to take a break here. I'm curious too, what the people listening think.

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You are the judge and jury as to what is done. Okay. The first one is destination weddings. Okay.

It's already funny. Destination weddings. I say to my wife, we're going to a destination wedding. We should not give a present because my presence is my present.

What do you say, Larry? First of all, where is the wedding? How far is it?

Another country. Okay. You don't even go. You don't go. You don't go.

But it's a close family friend. I don't care. I am not flying 14 hours on a plane.

Yes. To somebody's wedding. I'm not going to do that.

What the distance from your house that you are now and I have my car. That's it. Here's social situation number two for you, Larry. So you're going into somebody's house for, let's say, the fight, the Mayweather McGregor fight.

This happened to one of our producers. Okay. They brought desserts.

Fight ends. Nobody's touched the desserts. They like these desserts. Is it okay to take the desserts home?

It's still perishable. You're bringing it to the host, right? That's true. The host saw it. It's different from the host and see, then you can sneak out.

So if the host never saw it on the table and there's no note. Yeah. That's when you could take it.

If you think, if you think you're not going to get caught. Yeah. Then you could take it.

Last one for you, Larry. LD shoes off on a plane. Do you have a problem with somebody on a plane?

I have a big problem with it. Yeah. Yeah. Keep them on. Okay.

You know, don't make yourself, it's not your house. All right. You're outside. You're in public.

I don't want to say, I don't want to see your socks and God forbid you have a little odor down there. Who needs that? Right.

And I don't even want to know if you do have it. Exactly. It's close quarters. Come on. Take a couple of minutes.

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Rich, the phone number. We talked in the first segment about the Texans are on the practice field right now. The first true practice of training camp, full squad. None of this rookies only nonsense.

This is the real thing. Seven weeks exactly from tonight, chiefs and Ravens in the regular season opener. So the question that I posed prior to the break was who can be this year's Texans, the team that truly comes out of nowhere and make some noise in the NFL this season, which is hard to do because we talked this thing to death for six months, five months since last season. We've taught, we've, we've convinced ourselves that almost everybody can get there, but who can truly be a surprise before we get to that subject? My bag is here.

I'll be right back. Or Brockman who, uh, who forgot the bag that he needs for work because he's on his way to a destination wedding immediately after the show, trying to figure out exactly what he's going to do, which led to a lengthy conversation in the first segment about my habit of mailing back my laundry half to myself halfway through my two week training camp travels every year. Del Tufo's revelation during the break.

You said what Del Tufo? I would open it if I'm your wife. I open it. You, you see a package that's addressed to your husband, your wife, your domestic partner. It's not something that you're expecting.

It doesn't matter. You didn't know you're, you're not anticipating it. It wasn't a, Hey, Mike, I, I've got something coming to the house. You see a package addressed to someone else. You open it. It's coming to my house where I lived.

It's like there with you, obviously you live together, but it's not addressed to you. It, let's say it's like a lot, like it could be like a Bundt cake. It could be food. How often does someone mail you food?

Right? My mother used to mail me food all the time on in package boxes like that, that would come to my house. That would literally, I'd be like, okay, what do you know what mom sent me? I got to open it up. I'm just, I'm just baffled by this.

I was addressed to me, but still you don't know what it's completely different movie. I don't even think it's legal. I think it's a felony. And I don't want my wife to go to prison over this. I've met Sarah, lovely woman.

She committed a felony. That's not to you. No, that's totally wrong.

I don't want to say, okay, let's say you you're like in college, right? I had like, you know, I believe in the partner with five roommates. I opened somebody else's stuff and that's okay. That's different. TJ rooming together and he opens my box.

He might die, but I'm not talking about that. I'm talking about your wife. Once you put that ring on the dog, I don't know.

I have never been married. So your wife, your wife leaves your email open. Are you opening your emails? It's a private communication sent to one person.

But here's the thing. I need callers. I need callers about this. Please hold on. How long until you were going to be home again?

About a week. Oh, there's no question. I open the box because you don't know what's in it. You don't know what you have. If someone's email is mailing me food or let's say a live animal that needs to get out immediately.

I would hope they tell me about it. And I would say, Sarah, there's a like every, every year there's, there's a friend of mine who sends this, like it's delicious, but you can't eat the whole thing. This massive, like nine layer caramel cake from North Carolina. It's like you take one bite and you're like, I'm good.

That was 9,000 calories. That's my whole dessert. I don't need the rest, but every year we get it. And it's in this huge package.

She knows what that is. It's like, Hey, we got that huge package. It's probably the cake again. I'm like, okay, put it in the freezer, open it up, put it in the freezer. A box just addressed to me in my handwriting, by the way, I'm mailing it to myself. See, I've got very distinct handwriting. How is anyone else opening this? I'm going to be honest. It's seen like I'm inquiring. I'm kind of thinking like what's in the box.

That's exactly it. Brodman's back with his suitcase. Any particular edible substances that are not in the box? She threw in a shirt. I guess I packed the wrong shirt.

I'm good. So she opened your suitcase. Would you open your voicemail? A box comes to your house and show backpack.

Yeah. Brodman, a box comes to your house. No, I'm not opening a dress to your wife. Not opening it. You can't open it. See, it's up to me for a week. I'm like, what?

She was like, gave me explicit instructions. Hey, I'm expecting something. Can you open this? That's different. Or, Hey, it's a perishable item. Exactly.

Can you put it in the freezer or the refrigerator? I'm expecting a rabbit. You have a dog. Yes.

All right. Did the dog sniff it and kind of think there was something might've like, I would have been like, I don't know about the dog. I don't know about the dog. If it smelled a little, I've still got the picture of my phone of my wife taking the snap when she opened it.

I'll try to find that. One of the best stories that riches tell when he was in college, one of his buddies mailed him a slice of pizza that you can open. But he knew it was a slice of pizza.

It was dressed to him. He knew it was coming. He knew it was a slice of pizza addressed to him.

He immediately got it. He opened it, ate it. One package addressed.

I compared it to this Brock, but would you open your wife's email? No, that's different. It's the same thing.

No, there's a difference. How is that coming to your house? All right.

We got to put up a poll here. Hold on a sec. What if there's an emergent email? The email says medical results.

Are you open? And she's like, Hey, can you open my mail that has my medical results? I got divorced because of emails. So the guy who would open his wife's mail is divorced.

The guys who are still married are both. No way. I think that there's something instructive in this. I agree with Tom on this one. Stay out of other people's mail. I think a lot of people want to wait on that subject as well. All right, let's do it right now. 844-204-rich.

Miles in Maryland. Do you open somebody else's package? No, Tom, you got it right. I think it's just something called permission. You ask permission.

A package shows up. Hey, do you need me to open this? No. Good. Leave it alone. Permission.

That's that's what keeps marriages going, right? I'm with Miles here. Thank you, Miles, for the call.

Wait, hold on, Miles. Before you go, where in Maryland are you? Because that's where I'm going. Where are you?

Where are you? I live in Potomac. Tommy T, have you ever gotten a comparison to Zach Braff? Because when you when you first hosted last year, at least my first time watching you, I could not reconcile Zach Braff having so much knowledge of football and posting the rich eyes. I have heard that. In fact, my wife, my wife, who occasionally opens my mail, has made that has made that that comparison before. Miles, thank you very much.

How about Jason in Tempe? Do you open somebody's packages? Yeah, you're not supposed to, but.

It's a felony, but. OK, so just so you know, don't ever put anything suspicious in your package that you mail back to yourself back to your house. That's just a little tip. I don't know.

What are you even mailing to yourself? Just personal experience. Yeah, no, you're not supposed to, but your wife's going to do it. You get it, right? Come on. I understood it.

My point is the offense that was caused by me sending it back. This was the part where I just I didn't. I didn't understand Jason. Thank you.

Thank you very much for the call. I want to know what Jesus and mailing himself. He's not going to tell us now. He's identified exactly where he is.

That sounded like a man who's realized that Jason's done this before. Yeah, it's because you don't want to bring the bong on the plane. Doesn't mean you should go and take it to UPS. You get it and see what happens.

There might be some residual problem. I tried to mail myself a chemo, Mike, and it didn't work. Yeah, I took my trip to Columbia.

I came back. That box never made it home. There's all those things that say, you know, don't put, you don't put drugs in it. Don't put anything that can explode. There's like this whole list with like the little emoji things that they draw like fire. Yeah. Don't put fire in a box.

That's a pretty good. It is like at the airport now. Do you don't have any, uh, do you have any spare lithium batteries in your, uh, your, your bag there? That's what they always ask me to check a bag, spare lithium batteries.

And, uh, what's the other one laptops? No, I don't have any, I don't even know what the hell a lithium battery is. No cigarettes. Do you have any e-cigarettes in your bag?

Cause it was exposed sometimes. Yeah. Do you carry, do you carry e-cigarettes in your bag? I don't, I don't think that you do.

I've never even had any cigarettes. We had a topic on TV the other day on, uh, the insiders on NFL network. And, uh, the, the topic, cause it was Patrick Mahone saying that he's bringing a TV to training camp for the first time. And he said, you know, play NCAA and Olympics. And our producers came up with the topic of, okay, for the following another show, just what's the essential thing that you got to bring on your training camp trip. And Rappaport said a lob wedge.

And he was saying, you know, cause I got to like keep up on my game, really working on my shortcut. I'm like, wait, how are you getting that in a bag? He goes, no, you just carry it on the plate.

I go, you carry a golf club on the plate. They do not let you do that. There's no way that's legal.

They do not let you do that. He's like, Oh, what am I going to do? It's not like it's a knife. I'm like, yeah, but I get, again, I get my blender confiscated. There's no, I can't assault anybody with a blender, a golf club, a lob wedge. They're going to stop you for like too big of a toenail clipper.

Did they not watch entourage? Did they not see what Johnny drama was able to do with a putter to another car? Like you can do damage with that.

I think it like top five, uh, makeshift weapons, like things that are not actually designed to be a weapon, but that you could assault. So like every time I like have those, you know, you ever have those fantasies, like what would I do if somebody broke into my house, you know, like, well, in my head, I'm always like, I'm grabbing a three iron and then I'm like, the golf clubs are in the garage. That's a long way to go. And then I just go to sleep and move on with my life. Keep one by the bed, baby. The golf club, the golf club, that was like always the thought in my head.

It's literally top of the list of weapons that aren't actually weapons. All right. NFL sleepers. Feel free to keep calling about the pack.

Will you open someone else's package? Your wife's packages, your husband's packages, anyone who lives with you, your roommates, if it's not addressed to you, uh, Leon in Kentucky, I know you want to talk about NFL sleepers. What do we got?

What's up boys. First off, we got the Rams. I love that they added in pre-agency, uh, Travis White, Darius Williams to round out the secondary Jonah Jackson at the guard. And Jimmy G is a solid backup, getting him back in the West coast system out there with Sean McVay behind Matt Stafford. Uh, I love that they drafted the Florida state guys.

You got Blake quorum as well back there behind Kyron Williams, middle of the pack, shrink the schedule. I think they have a chance to win in that division. Maybe there's a Superbowl slump with the 49ers as a Kelvin's fan.

I'd love to see that. You never know, but I think the Rams have a good shot at winning that division. I know they were a playoff team last year, so it's not really out of nowhere, but I think if they won that division, people would be pretty shocked. And then real quick last one, uh, is the Cole. Uh, you got AR back year two in the psych and offense, Jonathan Taylor, no more contract issues. And this is per our, our guy, Warren Sharp, who's on the show last week, two weeks ago, they have the 70 easiest strength to schedule of the top seven per Warren sharp last year, all seven have winning records. And I think one of these three, I know Brockman likes looking at the betting odds, AR MVP, a lot to D Roy or stiking coach the year.

I think they, if they get one of those, they make the playoffs and they could shock someone first round, unless they get Kansas city. Thanks for the call Leon Brockman. What's most likely of those three scenarios, Richardson MVP law to defense work of the year, stiking coach of the year. I like stiking coach of the year.

I could see that. I mean, Anthony Richardson, he played four games and got hurt in three of them last year. He did some freaky stuff in those games.

Yes. I actually, I liked the, I liked the Rams idea. And we're talking to team that comes out of nowhere, even though they should be in it every year with Sean McVay and outside of one year, they really have been, they were 10 and seven.

They made the playoffs last year, but yeah, you don't hear about that team. Basically the, the storyline nationally, I think with the Rams, this off season is how do you replace Aaron Donald? You lost the greatest defensive player of all time. He retired. Now what you got Matthew Stafford has got a contract situation that they're they're working through.

He's toward the tail end of his career, but he's still playing at a high level. And they're in a division where, yeah, you know, per perennially right now, San Francisco is the team that's looked at to not only win the division, but to go deep in the playoffs. So they don't win the super bowl.

It's a failure. If the Rams were to rise up and to make a super run, I did that. I did that qualifies. We're, we're making up the, the criteria as we go, but I, I like that schedule two, they got to go to Detroit, to Arizona in the first two weeks of the season. Then they're home against San Francisco at Chicago home against the Packers. That is a I'll start even that Arizona game in Arizona. That's that's the Cardinals home opener because they're week one at Buffalo. That's a, that's a Rocky stretch to come out of the gate.

If the Rams can get through that three and two, I think they'd be pretty happy looking at how the, the rest of the schedule unfolds after that. Let's go to Ken in Kokomo, Indiana, speaking of great city names, Ken, it's time. What's up. Hey, Tom, thank you for taking the call. Some of the guys know there that I have followed NFL officiating since, uh, sixties. And what I am hearing from some of the referees that I've talked to is that they've gone to the OTAs and some of the teams have, have basically said that while they might try something with the new kickoff rule and preseason, they'll probably in the regular season, just kick it through the end zone and start at the 30.

Have you heard anything any different? You know, it's really interesting, Ken. It's, it's a great question. I've talked to a variety of different people. I've gotten the perspective of the, the competition committee on this as well. And for, for people who may not have been familiar with the nuances through the course, the opposite, this is as much as I think that, uh, the reason that Rich has me on the show every week is I can explain almost any NFL issue.

This is one that is still really complicated. I can't off the top of my head, explain to you exactly what the rule is. Essentially, there's a landing zone that you're supposed to put the ball into. If it comes up short of that, if it goes into the end zone, then you're essentially punished for that. It's to try to make the game safer. The there's going to be a setup zone where the, the players who are on the kick coverage team are going to be further up. It's not going to look exactly like the UFL XFL rule, but it's going to be similar along those lines. Uh, I've heard, no, please, if you want to, if you want to do the exact, please give me the 62nd version of this, and then I can explain what I've been told.

Okay. Only the, only the kicker is at the 35, right? The, uh, kicking, the kicking team has to line up at the receiving team's 40, and the receiving team, nine of the players, at least nine of the players, has to line up between the 30 and the 35. Right. They have to stay there until the ball is either touched by a receiver or lands in that landing zone between the goal line and the 20. The idea is, of course, what the, what the teams are saying is if you can beat the first wave, you basically have a touchdown and that's why teams are sort of reluctant.

Right. And that is, that is exactly what I heard out of the gate from the people that were skeptical of it was you are now, as they're trying to make this, and Ken, thank you very much for the call. You're now trying to take a play that has been a dead play, right? That's what Troy Vincent referred to it as back in December, a dead ceremonial play. And you're trying to bring it back into the game. The people who opposed this rule, remember it was crafted with input from all the special teams coordinators.

So they did have a substantial place at the table. The concern was you were now going to overemphasize this play for exactly what Ken just said, which is, this is going to look like a total jailbreak where you're just going to have, if you can break, hit one crease, it's going to be like if a defense is playing zero blitz every snap, every snap, where you only want to do that every now and then, because if you don't, if you go all out blitz and the person gets through, you're done because there's nobody on the back end. There's been talk about from some of the special teams coordinators about the idea of having someone who's not a kicker kick off. And we know that some of the special teams coordinators have said that publicly because A, you don't want your kicker involved in a play that now is going to include a lot of tackles.

I mean, Justin Tucker was saying like, I got to do some more shrugs. I don't want him in that play, but I've also heard from the other side of it, which was, listen, when they put the rule in last year, because remember the kickoff rules now changed for the last five years. When they put the rule in last year, you had guys like John Harbaugh coming out and say, well, we're just going to squib it every time.

Squibs were at like a 20 year low last year. So the idea that you're just going to put anybody out there to kick off is probably a stretch because to, to what Ken just explained, if you don't put it into the landing zone, you are punished. So if you have someone who cannot consistently not only put it in the zone, but have the hang time on it, you're also putting yourself at a disadvantage. So there's going to be a lot of experimentation. I think we will see different things. If it ends up being, this is kicked through the end zone. Every time we're going to be right back at the table talking about a potential new rule again, after the season, I think it's all to be determined because again, the things that coaches say they're going to do going into it, a lot of times doesn't end up being the case once we get into the real games, but you'll see experimentation in the preseason and you'll see penalties and you'll see confusion. And that's why they still have the preseason in large part, even though they keep chopping it down, it's getting shorter and shorter. It's not just to, Hey, try out your, your down the line types of players.

It's also to ensure that you're working through some of those rules. And if things do need to be tweaked or if coaches need to figure things out, they're doing that in places that aren't potentially a screw up is not going to cost them their jobs. We'll keep the phone lines open 844-204 Rich. So we're going to get to those NFC North non-negotiables.

I know Brockman's got his, what's more likely coming up soon, even though I just tossed one at him, tried to shock him with that here. Let's take a break. Let's be back with more of that. Scott Hanson, the gold zone, the red zone going to be back. I'm Zach Braff. No, I'm not.

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That's B-L-E-A-V podcast wherever you listen. and Phil Hellmuth and a lot of these other guys stood us in good stead and I got some good cards and won a few hands and everything. We both had very like dramatic exits. I actually played a Johnny Chan tip. I played pocket nines when I was on the button and ended up with kind of I bet it as though it was an ace king or something like that. I got a middle flop. I got a nine and a 10 and then I got a second 10. So I had I had a pretty much unreadable full house.

Yes. And I got beat by four tens get out of here by a guy named Surinder Singh. He quadded tens against tens against an unreadable full house. And when I called and I had more tips than him when I flipped the boat, the whole table exploded.

They were like, he's going to take Surinder Singh out of the tournament. Yeah. And he flipped quad tens. Unbelievable. Yep.

It was it was incredible. I was going to say, do you remember the hand that you went out with? But how could you not remember that?

There's more details of it too. But he said to me later, he goes, he goes on 99 out of 100 times. He goes, you would have not.

He could say, I had no idea that you had that hand. I'm blown away. That makes it worse though, doesn't it?

Worse. As we're talking about it, we're talking about it. And I'm having the Saving Private Ryan moment where everything goes silent again. And, you know, I was trying to play it off, but I just even a gut shot when they talk about being gut shot. I was gut shot.

That is the definition. Welcome back to the Rich Eisen Show. Tom Pellicero sitting in once again, Scott Hansen is going to join us.

Host of the Red Zone and soon the Gold Zone covering the upcoming Summer Olympics. Looking forward to having him in studio shortly here. Perfect day for Scott Hansen to be here because we've got actual football. We've got training camp. We've got the Texans on the field this morning, seven weeks away from the NFL regular season opener. All right. I've been pushing the NFC North non-negotiables for like two days here. So let's get to these before we get back. Let's get to it. We've been talking, setting it up as the bear.

What was it? 23 Emmy nominations. A lot for the bear, man. Most ever for a comedy. Because apparently it's a comedy.

I thought it was just a food drama. So let's talk about the non-negotiables for the NFC North teams. For the Minnesota Vikings, the non-negotiable to me is that Justin Jefferson's got to elevate the level of his quarterbacks.

You're paying them $35 million a year now. You moved on from Kirk Cousins in part because extending Jefferson was your number one organizational priority. You blew away the wide receiver market.

We don't know right now, is it going to be Sam Darnold or is it going to be JJ McCarthy when the season begins? And when the season ends, what we do know is Justin Jefferson, they got a lot of other weapons on that team. Signed Aaron Jones. They have Jordan Addison, though. We'll see how things shake out in terms of whether or not he's actually available at the start of the season. You got TJ Hawkinson. Justin Jefferson is your guy. Missed time last year.

He's got to be the absolute leader in every regard of your team. For the Packers, Jeff Halfley's got to be a difference maker. They made a run. They went deep in the playoffs. They very well could have ended up being a Super Bowl team and they had the 49ers on the ropes on the road. They fired Joe Berry after that. They would have had him back in a different role, but they were going to move on from him as a D coordinator. Jeff Halfley from my alma mater, BC in recent years, where he had a lot of different challenges, but gutted out some good wins, did a heck of a job recruiting, just impossible to keep talent and not a great lifestyle. So he goes to Green Bay and unites with Matt Lafleur.

He's been part of the Kyle Shanahan tree. The coming in and the thing that we've heard over and over is they want to be aggressive. No defense, no coaches ever said, you know, I really want a more passive defensive approach.

Everybody says it, but it's true. They want to attack more. They want to have a more consistent approach. Joe Berry was hard on O coordinators because he kind of rolodexes play calls. He just kind of mixed things up.

He didn't know what was coming. They want to have a very clear plan of attack. They got enough talent. Jeff Halfley got to be a difference maker for Green Bay in Chicago. Caleb Williams had to start fast and I've spent plenty of time over these past couple of days talking about these other rookie quarterbacks. And, you know, we got to have patience in Washington, not just with Jane Daniels with the whole commander's operation. You got to have patience in New England with the guy in Drake May, who of those quarterbacks who were taken up high in the draft, probably realistically is the furthest away from being ready to play in an NFL game. But for Caleb Williams, just with the amount of expectations that have been lumped on him and the Bears with everything that comes with Caleb Williams, who from the moment he stepped on the field at Oklahoma, replacing Spencer Rattler a couple of years ago was looked at as probably the number one pick.

To avoid a situation where all of a sudden all that begins boomeranging and you have this hysteria, you have a media market there that's pretty big and is seen a lot and doesn't hesitate to go negative. Just get some good vibes going early. You're going to put yourself in a much better position than if you're kind of have to come out of that early season slow. And for the Lions, the Lions were that close as well. There are a few strange plays and missed opportunities away. I catch that ball. What are we doing? That was insane. You take a ball off the face mask in the biggest possible moment. There's any different number of ways. I mean, you can just say stay the course, but it's never about staying the course in the NFL.

It's always about how do you get better? Right. So what I'm going to say is Jameer Gibbs, my non-negotiable stud, is he's got to be somebody that you at least think is in the MVP conversation. And we had, I had Bucky Brooks on the insiders yesterday.

He was doing his long shot candidates. He had Jared Goff as a long shot MVP candidate. Jameer Gibbs, when you watch him live, and I was at a couple of Lions games last year, he split in time with David Montgomery. Montgomery had a hell of a year. He's a beast too. Jameer Gibbs though, when he gets rolling, man is special and you watch him. I'm not saying it's got to be all Jameer Gibbs. Ben Johnson is one of the best play callers and offensive minds in the entire NFL. And Dan Campbell is really, really smart with offense. Whatever they do, I'm sure they got a good plan for it. I'm sure it's still going to be a mix of things in the backfield, but getting Jameer Gibbs, those opportunities and getting him rolling, that guy could be one of the best running backs, one of the best playmakers in the entire league.

How about for them, Tom, also maybe kick the field goal? Dan Campbell has been defined. His whole program has been defined by a very clear approach and it is about playing the numbers. It's also about trusting his gut. It's about being aggressive.

I don't have any problem. If you spend the entire year, you build everything up, you build your program around, we're going to be, we're going to go for it. I trust my guys on offense. We're going to convert those fourth and threes.

You're not going to convert every one, but you're doing it because you think it's the right thing to do. It's the style of play you want to have. And then also in the playoff game, you start going, we're just going to kick the field goal. That sends a message that has an impact on your team, not just in that game, the program in the future. I remember, and I've told this story many times sitting down with Kyle Shanahan back when he was the Falcons offensive coordinator. I did a story with him about just the way that his brain works because what he told me, and I'm paraphrasing here, was just, you build up all these scars over time because play calling, as we know it in the NFL, it's not willy nilly. You've studied tape, you've run the analytics, you know the percentages, you know what the defense tends to do.

You know what your tendencies are. You're calling things for the right reasons in those moments. And then sometimes they don't work. And you've seen the other team 99% of the time, they've called this defense in this spot. You got the perfect play for it. And then they run something else and the play fails. And everybody's saying, why in the world did you pass from the one yard lines? Because you had to play, you had a reason for calling it.

And what Kyle said was, you have to learn to overcome your scars. You can't go because we got burned on this before, because in this case you failed on a fourth down. Well now you can't go for another fourth down or coach scare or do something because the next day on the Rich Eisen show we're on talk radio here.

What were they doing? It's a lot easier, Shanahan said, to do the thing that is orthodox and then it fails and it's, well, the players didn't execute than it is to call the right thing. Even if it's unorthodox and have it boomerang on you, you have to still do the right thing.

You know what else is the right thing? Having Scott Hanson on this show. Just a little bit here. I can't wait. Red zone.

It's the gold zone. Scott Hanson is going to be joining us right here at the top of the hour. We've still got a lot more Brockman. You've got what's more likely. You're also pointing at me as if you just thought of something really smart. No, no, no.

I just like to do the, we're still on Roku. Got it. No, I know. I've been here. I actually, I even remember it.

It's 55.29, 55.0. Got it. That's the signal. We've never talked about the hand signals. This is like, this is like if, you know, you're a quarterback, you're Drake May just looks at you and just goes, yeah. And you're like, that's not a signal. That's something. I'm doing something. Get ready. We're going to pop Douglas, run the jet, boom, touchdown. You want to tell pop beforehand. That's what it is.

Otherwise I thought you were just doing like guns at me. Like, Hey, I got something really hot here. Talk about sneaky rookie of the year. Jalen Polk.

Get ready. Jalen Polk is an interesting one. Pop Douglas was that guy last year, but Polk was somebody who had a lot of buzz early on in the, in the draft process.

You heard a lot about him, you know, there was talking and going in the first, he was never going to go that high. But yeah, I mean, there's, dude, there's a, there's a lot of wide receivers this year. You know, you talk about, I mean, if Marvin Harrison Jr., again, I don't know what the betting odds are, but I had to imagine if any wide receiver is a favorite, it would be him. I, I just don't know that there's any other receivers going to have that type of year. Although, Jason was on the show two days ago and said, lab McConkey over a hundred catches, which territory. I just saw a story where someone said Malik neighbors is Jamar Chase Jr. Like, what are we doing? It's that time of year, that's why we love seven weeks away. The tensions on the field this morning, we got football. We got Scott Hansen join us right after this on the rich eyes and show. Season five begins wherever you listen.