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May 2, 2016 4:40 pm

Dr. Michael Brown discusses the increasing hostility towards Christianity in America, citing examples of the NCAA, Colorado Supreme Court, and Department of Education's actions against Christian values and religious liberties. He emphasizes the importance of standing up for one's faith and speaking the truth in love, despite the potential backlash.

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Well, you want some clear signs that America has declared war on our faith? I've got them for you today. It's time for the line of fire with your host, activist, author, international speaker, and theologian, Dr. Michael Brown, your voice of moral, cultural, and spiritual revolution. Michael Brown is the director of the Coalition of Conscience and president of Fire School of Ministry.

Get into the line of fire now by calling 866-34TRU. That's 866-34TRUTH. Here again is Dr. Michael Brown. Look, it's no surprise that we find ourselves where we do today.

It's no surprise that there is so much hostility. Towards our faith here in America. This has been building, this has been growing, but it's becoming more and more overt. This is Michael Brown here to sound the alarm as always, but with encouragement, with faith, with clarity. I do not believe that the Church of America has really awakened yet to reality.

I do not believe the Church of America really recognizes where things are at. Still, we have too much comfortable religion. We have too much convenience store Christianity. We have too much entertainment in the church and soothing words from behind the pulpit. Thank God for everyone that's speaking the truth.

Thank God for everyone that's hungry for revival. Thank God for everyone who wants to stand for the truth and reach out with compassion to those who don't know the Lord. But still, many, many American believers are slumbering, and it may take a whole lot to wake many up. Here's the number to call to get in the conversation with me today: 866-348-7884. 866-34TRUTH is the number to call.

If you'd like to weigh in, if you'd like to weigh in with your own experience in the workplace. If you are experiencing More opposition to the faith, more hostility towards the faith. If you have to be more and more careful with what you say and how you say it. Maybe as a school teacher, maybe in the business world, maybe in some other phase of the society, I'd love to hear from you. If you're in college or high school and you're not in school right now and you are experiencing increasing hostility towards your faith, it's becoming more difficult for you to just speak up.

Then I'd love to hear from you as well. 866-348-7884. On the other hand, If you believe that things are just where they're just where they should be. In terms of freedom of religion and freedom of conscience. And that you think things are being handled right way now, that the church needs to be put in its proper place, that America's not a theocracy, etc., and therefore uh religion has uh limited freedoms.

Love to hear from you as well. 866-2666. Three four truth. As I'm speaking now, I'm getting email reports. about violence that's broken out across France as gangs and riot police crash in towns and cities during traditional May Day demonstrations.

Nine arrested, five police injured in May Day in Seattle. It was May of 1968 that sparked a lot of the revolutionary movements in that faithful year, 1968 being a year of revolution and upheaval in quite a few countries. But the May Revolution in France almost toppled the de Gaulle government.

So interesting that there are riots going on now. But I'm just looking at some posts on Twitter in response to my latest article, Seven Sure Signs That America is at War with Our Faith. And some have said this, there's a war on bigotry and misinformation.

Sorry if Christianity has picked the wrong side. Another one weighed in. This is on Twitter.

So apparently a few folks Not in agreement with our faith, wait in there. Amazing how they twist the facts to fit their delusion of persecution. And then another, A humanist by definition. There is no war on Christianity. You just don't want to follow the rules.

Oh, it looks like the rules are changing. Looks like the rules are not what they used to be. It looks like freedom of religion is increasingly becoming freedom from religion. What do we do? Stand up and speak out all the more clearly, loudly, lovingly.

We'll be right back. It's the line of fire with your host, Dr. Michael Brown. Get into the line of fire now by calling 866-34TRUT. Here again is Dr.

Michael Brown. To always be The First Amendment says, be who you are. Your speech, your dress, and your religious exercise are protected rights. Uh But practicing your faith can't come at the expense of other people's well-being, public safety, and taxpayer dollars. States across the country are introducing bills that let people discriminate or get out of following existing laws on the basis of religion.

Yeah. That was the ACLU, their YouTube channel, published on April 13th, 2016. You can't use your religious freedoms to discriminate against other people. Hang on. Hang on.

When culture changes so radically around us. That our fundamental religious beliefs, which would have been shared, In terms of moral values, shared by virtually all the founders of our country. If you said to the founders of our country, can we have religious liberties, meaning that we don't have to perform a wedding for two men or two women, they would have looked at you like you had lost your mind. What are you talking about? Even the least religious among them would have looked at you like, what are you talking about?

what what is marriage of two men or two women? Yet today, groups like the ACLU are telling you: if you have a business, that you do not have the right. To say, sorry in good conscience, I can't participate in that. 866-348-7884. This is Michael Brown, your voice of moral, cultural, and spiritual revolution.

You better believe nothing less than a moral, cultural, spiritual revolution will produce the changes that we need. The ACLU, of course, responding to North Carolina's. Passing of HB 2 and then Governor McCrory's executive order, which softened the bill in certain ways. But of course, that is never enough. I give seven examples in my latest article, seven sure signs that America has declared war on our faith.

And I'm going to go to the phones pretty quickly today. If you are experiencing increasing hostility, Towards the faith. If you are experiencing it in the workplace, that it's more and more difficult for you to share things freely, there could be consequences, whereas in the past there wouldn't have been. Give me a call. Or if you're convinced I'm on the wrong side of this issue, by all means, let us know why, from a Christian perspective or a secular perspective.

866-348-7884. My first example of seven. sure signs that America has declared war on our faith. The NCAA So National Collegiate Athletic Association announced That it will not hold any men's and women's final four basketball events. This is one of the biggest sports events of the year.

It will not hold any men's and women's final four basketball events in a city that, quote, discriminates against anyone. based on sexual orientation or gender identity. In its official statement, the NCAA declared that, quote, the board's decision follows the recent actions of legislatures in several states, including North Carolina, including Missouri, which have passed laws allowing residents to refuse to provide services to some people based on their sexual orientation or gender identity. I should have said Mississippi. While proponents of the laws focus on how they protect religious beliefs, critics have voiced concerns that they create an environment of sanctioned discrimination.

And the NCAA is saying we're going to side with the critics on this. We're going to side with the critics.

So, not only then has the NCAA grossly mischaracterized these recent laws. But it is now guilty of discriminating against biblically based beliefs and declaring, think of this, that no final four game will be held in any city that does not allow men to use women's bathrooms. That's what the NCAA is saying. If your city does not allow men who identify as women to use women's bathrooms, we will not allow a Final Four game to be held there. And any city that's going to protect a Christian photographer for being forced to shoot a same-sex quote wedding.

We will not hold our final four game there.

So so cons consider this for a minute. C consider this. You go into a Jewish Photography. Uh company. and say we would love for you to shoot our wedding that's taking place this uh the first Saturday of June.

That's three months from now. They said no, uh we don't work on the Sabbath, we're Jewish.

Okay. Fine.

Well, that's the only day I can do it. That's the only day we can do it. And that's the best day for people to gather. It's a Saturday. You're discriminating against us.

Because Sunday, that's our day of worship and rest, and so we have to do it on a Saturday. You're discriminating against us. No, of course you couldn't say that.

So you go to a Muslim cater and say, Hey, we'd love for you to cater our wedding. We're here. You've got great foods and stuff, and we will need pork. No, we're Muslims, we don't provide pork.

Well, you're discriminating against us because, as Christians, we're free to eat anything. No, of course, it's not discrimination. You go to Christian Photographer and say, hey, we've opened a new porn website. And we want the best photography. And we hear that you are terrific in terms of still photography and stuff like that.

No, I'm a Christian. That violates my faith to shoot that.

Well, you're discriminating against us. You're holding your religion over our. No, it's not discrimination, obviously. But you go to that same Christian photographer, or Jewish photographer, or Muslim photographer, and say to them. We Want you to shoot our same-sex wedding ceremony, and the Muslim or the Jew or the Christian says, Sorry, we can't do that, that violates your faith.

And that is now discrimination. How utterly, utterly, utterly. Absurd. And the NCAA is going to punish you. if you hold to those views.

The war is here, friends. 866-34TRUTH. We'll start in East Orange, New Jersey. Jackie, thank you for calling the line of fire. Hi, Dr.

Brown. You are just so on the mark because the very things that you are addressing, I had addressed it in a message I gave Friday night at my church's all-night prayer. And I had given the example of Dr. Eric Walsh. Who was in the Department of Health in Atlanta, Georgia, who was fired from his job because of sermons that he had to.

Submit. Uh yeah. Yeah. Employer, and he had like just gotten the job, and then a few days later, he was disappointed. Myth because Yeah.

And I think that is just the most horrible, disgust And I want to see the people of God get outraged and speak and support. poor then give a deluge of emails but Phone calls. to these uh different places that with their in the description. like this. Yeah, I mean you're talking, Jackie, about a man who's highly qualified.

David French, writing for the National Review, pointed out that he worked Eric Walsh worked for former President Bush and President Obama to combat AIDS. He served as a board member of the Latino Health Collaborative. He started California's first city-run dental clinic for low-income families dealing with HIV, AIDS. That wasn't enough. Because he held to Christian views.

And remember, these were sermons he preached at his Seventh-day Adventist church, same faith as Ben Carson.

So this wasn't even that at the workplace he gathered his department together and said, Now, I just want you to know what I believe, and held up the Bible. No, this was in his church.

So he's fired for what he preached in his church despite his high qualifications, despite no charges ever coming against him for being bigoted or discriminatory. And his attorney that's fighting this case with First Liberty, Jeremy Dice, said no one in this country should be fired from their job for something that was said in a church or from a pulpit during a sermon, especially when he's not preaching hatred or go out and kill the gays or string up the, I mean, he's a black man himself. He's not saying go up and string up the blacks or string up the white. He's simply saying the Bible teaches this, the Bible teaches this, and holding to these views. Yeah, and Jackie, one thing we can all do is do exactly what you did in whatever setting we have.

in whatever setting we have we speak of. And and look. At the very, very least. At the very, very least, What we need to do is share Jesus boldly and clearly in whatever setting we have and not be ashamed of the name of Jesus. Friends, wake-up time.

Thank you, Jackie. And I hope your folks responded well at that all-night prayer meeting. The fact you're having an all-night prayer meeting is another positive sign. All right, phone lines are jammed. I want to get to some more calls.

Listen to what Dr. Wolf said. He said, I don't believe I did anything wrong. He said, This has been very painful for me. I really am a strong believer in the Constitution.

But now I feel like maybe all these ideals and values that I was raised to believe. The ideals this country was founded upon no longer exist. I have been doing more study in recent months on the philosophy of the founders. And the Christian nature of the colonies leading up to the founding of our nation, and how much the Bible was used in our educational process. It's going to be part of a major book, Galbon, that comes out next year.

And when you look at this, you think of. Of how dramatically we've changed. And listen, my goal is not to establish a theocracy where clergy rule America and enforce religious beliefs on everyone. No, my goal is to see God's people shining brightly. My goal is to see us being the salt and the light of our society.

My goal is to see us advocate for life-giving biblical values, living them out. And pushing them forward through the democratic process we have in our society. We'll be right back with your calls: 866-34TRUTH. It's the line of fire with your host, Dr. Michael Brown, your voice of moral, cultural, and spiritual revolution.

Here again is Dr. Michael Brown. The Call the Boycott Target. And the AFA website now has Over 1,145,000 signatures. Yeah, striking.

And according to one report I read, can't verify this, but there's been a 5% drop. in stock value, which has cost them $2.5 billion.

Now, the goal is not to hurt Target. The goal is to send a message and to tell Target if you're going to disrespect us and scorn our needs and our sensitivities and our common sense safety requests and are going to impose the struggles of a tiny minority on everyone else and then open the door wide to sexual predators abusing these laws.

Sorry, we can't give you our business. With the hope that other companies will recognize that this is costly. You said, what if I have to not go to my favorite places? You know, I I love Starbucks, but I hear Starbucks has the same policy. Is it the end of the world to not have Starbucks?

You say, Well, you're not a coffee drinker. I don't care if I was a coffee drinker. Is it the end of the world to not have Starbucks? Are we that shallow in our moral conviction? I'm just saying if this is what it comes to.

Are we that shallow in our moral conviction that we won't avoid a few things or deny ourselves a few pleasures? To make a statement and to be faithful to our conscience and our God. 866-34-TRUTH, the number to call. Let's go to New York. Won't go there.

Uh Let's go to AM in New Jersey. Welcome to the Line of Fire. Hey, Dr. Brown, how are you doing today? Doing well, thanks.

Yeah, that's great. That's great. Yeah, I'm actually in the middle of working right now, but I'm in transit. Yeah, uh I heard your question about um people experiencing hostility, I guess, at their workplace. Uh they're safe.

Yep. And um let me just say this, Dr. Brown. Um I mean I'm a I'm a social worker and um There's just so much that I want to do in terms of just sharing the Word of God with clients. Um But I know that there are certain limitations on that, and it just seems like like the policies are just so policies are just so shaped in a way, like um You know, I mean, I could get accused of anything in a minute, but but it's like I've I've like of the towns we're in.

I feel, you know, just the spiritual tension. spiritual tension just of So do what I have to do and forget about it and just do what I have to do, what the Lord wants me to do and And just found. trust and believe him. you know, whatever occurs or whatever happens. Yeah, uh let let me let me ask this, is it worse now than it was years ago?

Um I would say probably yes. I mean, I've only been. been in order to my agency for a few years, but Um Yes. it just seems like it's just so much that's going on in terms of just promoting you know, ungodly agendas. Yep.

Yep. Yeah, for sure. I mean, look, it's one thing to say, okay. When I'm doing social work, I'm just an employee there of the state. Or the federal government, and I can't just go in there and preach the gospel, etc.

You know, if I see someone with a need, or if I see someone with a You know, with a problem that's faith-based, or I know the gospel could help, you know, just make an appointment to see that person outside of work. Say, hey, I'm a Christian. I'd love to talk to you about the Lord, but I can't do it during work time. And if they want to talk more, fine. And you have to work with those parameters.

That's understandable. At the same time, the increased, look, what I'm totally agreeing with you is that there is an agenda that's being put forth, which is not just neutral. It's anti-things that you hold to, anti-things that you believe. And it obviously is very difficult to function in that environment. It it really, it really, really is.

And then sometimes, you know, like you say, you see these needs and um And it's like we go with the status quo type needs or I guess the humanistic type needs or the humanistic type solutions and And it's like, you know, you see You see these these needs you see these issues as spiritual issues And I know one pastor had told me, and I totally agree, my old pastor I used to have said that You know, you can't handle spiritual problems with humanistic solutions. You have to handle them with spiritual solutions, and those spiritual solutions are the gospel and Jesus. Yeah, it's heartbreaking when I have to go through those cycles at times. And I just want to just be like, all right, cut, just get everything out of here. This is what the issue really is.

This is what the problem. Got it.

So I'm just asked Dr. Brown if you could just keep You know, keep me in prayer. And um, you know, any anybody else Who are you? goes through what I go through on a similar basis. And look, it's gotta...

Be frustrating that you've got the cure in your hand, but you're not allowed to administer it. I I would suggest That you uh You just have uh some some contact info. and say, hey, off the record here, Um Just as a friend, if I could pray with you in the future or something, I'd love to contact you. You know, here's how you can reach me. And and see if you can then Outside of work situations, share the gospel, and if ultimately, You're just so burdened to be sharing the gospel and it's exploding out of you, and you just have to do it.

Then the Lord will open up another door.

So, grace, grace to you. It's a very legitimate frustration. God will lead you, and God will give you grace as to how to handle things properly. All right, 866-348-7884. The second example.

in my seven sure signs that America has declared war on our faith. the Colorado Supreme Court, has chosen not to hear the case of Christian Baker Jack Phillips, Who was previously ordered By the Colorado Civil Rights Commission, quote, to create cakes for same-sex celebrations, re-educate his staff. and file quarterly compliance reports for two years. According to Jeremy Tedesco, senior counsel with the Alliance Defending Freedom, quote: We ask the Colorado Supreme Court to take this case to ensure that the government understands that its duty is to protect the people's freedom to follow their beliefs personally and professionally, not force them to violate those beliefs as the price of earning a living. Jack, Who has happily served people of all backgrounds for years simply to exercise the long-cherished American freedom to decline to use his artistic talents to promote a message and event with which he disagrees.

And that freedom shouldn't be placed in jeopardy for anyone. The court declined to hear the case, meaning that the state Civil Rights Commission not only has the power to require a bakery to make same-sex, quote, wedding cakes. But also to require that Baker to quote re-educate his staff. and file regular reports proving that he's baking those cakes. As I say in my article, Chairman Mao would be proud of state-mandated re-education like this.

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Your voice of moral, cultural, and spiritual revolution. Get into the line of fire now by calling 866-34 TRUTH. Here again is Dr. Michael Brown. Thanks so much for joining us on the line of fire.

Michael Brown, delighted to be with you. Your voice of moral sanity and Spiritual clarity. My third example on seven sure signs that America has declared war on our faith is the firing of Dr. Eric Walsh. One of our callers mentioned that earlier.

Highly qualified, newly hired district health director with the Georgia Department of Public Health was fired because of the content of his sermons. at a seventh day as a seventh day Adventist. And uh well Item number four, tell you what, I'll come to item number four in a little while. Let me go to your calls first. Uh in Vienna, Virginia, Felicia, welcome to the line of fire.

Hello. Hello. Yeah. Thank you.

So I was just calling. I'm a student at George Mason University and I find it um Things Uh funny that um A lot of the students there think that this is uh social justice for everything that's going on with the the gays and the Um um LGBT equality All that good stuff. And in the process of doing that, there I feel like as a Christian trying to shut me down. uh discriminating against Christians for believing something different. What have you actually encountered there?

Of course, this is a hijacking of the civil rights movement. And both students on campuses and businesses and journalists and entertainers are all grabbing hold of this. This gay is the new black, or transgender is the new black. And if you oppose it, you know, you're on the wrong side of history. And they're all championing it like that.

Of course, it breaks down on many, many different ways that it's not the new civil rights movement. But are you something you're just sensing rightly so? Or are you actually running into this where there's an overt hostility to Christian or conservative biblical views? you know, from professors, from peers, what are you running into yourself?

Well, all I know is that whenever it comes up Uh it it wouldn't be right to Yeah. Lie and it doesn't feel right to really dodge the question either. And you know, people I've thought that were my friends. The subject would come up, and they'd look at me, and I'd say, Well, you know. Um, it it would go against my religious belief to this state in the Bible that.

homosexuality is a sin and You know, then they would go and I I wouldn't be able to say a word after that telling me about how you're born with it. And if they can't help it, love is love. Um And uh it It's uh Yeah. And how does how does it make you feel personally? Um, it it makes me feel like they think.

Um I guess that are I'm not Stupid almost. Like it was kind of condescending, like you know, you must uh that that's how a lot of students um I'd say the mast vast majority of them are atheists and uh That's just how they view Christians as people-minded, closed-minded. Um Yeah, Felicia, it's the truth. Look, I remember being in school in the 70s, and there was certain hostility I was hit with in different classes, and a very secular view of the Bible and religion, and some professors downright hostile, but it's increased greatly. And what's even more tragic about it is that In the beginning, the vast majority of our universities were founded by Christians.

And they were founded based on Christian principle. Everyone was expected to read the Bible, whether it was Harvard or Yale or many of our finest institutions in the country. That's how they were founded. And things have turned. I want to encourage you, Felicia.

To stand strong because you are on the side. of truth. You're on the side of love. And ultimately... People will be coming to you needing the message.

that you have so stand strong. And may the Spirit of God strengthen and encourage you and be bold. People need the Jesus that you know. It's the line of fire with your host, Dr. Michael Brown.

Get into the line of fire now by calling 866-34TRUT. Here again is Dr. Michael Brown. The most important knowledge that you will leave here today with, like the importance of teamwork. has nothing to do with your major.

It is about how to study. How to cooperate. I'll listen carefully. How to think critically. and how to resolve conflicts through reason.

In other words, it is working with others. That was former New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg. Of course, extremely liberal, yet he said something at a commencement address at the University of Michigan this past Saturday. Which I affirm. In the midst of other comments he would have made that I would differ with.

And Felicia is just talking about. On her college campus, George Mason, the hostility towards the faith. both from professors and from peers. And that if she says, hey, According to my faith, homosexual practice is sinful. She gets hit with, in condescending terms, and people turning on her.

Well, people are born that way. First, there's no reputable scientific evidence that that's the case. And second, even if people were born that way, well, s researchers say pedophiles are born that way. What does that prove? There are others that say people have a violent gene.

Does that mean it's okay if the guy, I was born a homophobe and he beats up the gay guy? Come on. Or what if someone says, look, I have an obesity gene? Scientists talk about that. Should we have a fat pride parade?

Or do we help people deal with and overcome obesity?

So, the idea that people are born that way, number one, there's no scientifically reputable evidence that that's the case. And number two, even if it were, what does it prove about the morality of the behavior? You say love is love.

Well, first, who says the government is responsible to sanction and endorse every loving relationship? And if love is love, then you can't limit it to two. You can't limit it to non-relatives, non-close relatives. Anything goes as long as it's mutual love. You see the slippery slope there is not a myth, it's reality.

And the idea that suddenly you're going to have this societal experiment, even though you've had people with homosexual attractions through the centuries. Even though you've had people in some societies where these things were even celebrated. Uh instead of You're now in a situation where if society wants to radically. change things and redefine marriage and you're the slightest protest with it, something's the matter with you. By the way, George Mason, if you want to know where George Mason is at and where they're getting their talking points from, this is on their website.

To find detailed information on George Mason University's discrimination policies and other discrimination laws, go to the following sites where they send you American Civil Liberties, ACLU, Lesbian and Gay Rights. Oh, does that say it or what? And before I go back to the calls, grab clip number 10. This is Michael Bloomberg. This is the point that I wanted to address, where I agree with what he had to say.

Those are the most important skills in the working world, and it's why colleges have always exposed students to challenging and uncomfortable ideas. And the fact that some university boards and administrations now vow to pressure groups and shield students from these ideas through safe spaces, code words and trigger warnings is, in my view, a terrible mistake. The whole purpose of college is to learn how to deal with difficult situations, not to run away from them. A microaggression is exactly that. Micro.

But in a macro sense One of the most dangerous places on a college campus is the so-called seek space because it creates a false impression that we can isolate ourselves from those who hold different views. We can't. and we shouldn't try. Not in politics or in the workplace. Oh, hang on.

I agree. Absolutely agree. Absolutely agree. But but hang on. Wouldn't former Mayor Bloomberg want there to be schools with, quote, safe spaces for those who identify as LGBT?

Is isn't that the the very same mentality? that he is speaking against on college campuses, rightly so.

Now that offends me.

Well, I'm offended that you're offended.

Well, okay, then we have to have a safe space for the offended and the non-offended and the. What kind of nonsense is that? It is this utterly bizarre thought-police, politically correct, quote, safe space that all it does is. Set up an artificial environment where there is no conflict, where there is no disagreement, where everyone has to just come into conformity to groupthink. What ki and our college campuses of all places.

86634Truth in Washington, D.C. Mrs. G, welcome to the line of fire. Thank you, Dr. Brown.

I'll make this really quick. I just have a question. This is about. supporting uh not supporting um the gay and the lesbian business or just going against your fate as a business owner. Why is it that I can speak for the church that I go to now, why is it that the pastor or a lot of pastors of course are not speaking up about these things in the church.

So I think Even when it comes to politics, they are not. But specifically about this issue, if you're a business owner and you do not want to make maybe big kick for a gay or lesbian couple. Why is it that the church in general, a lot of churches are not talking about this in the church? Why? Are they afraid?

Or what is the reason why they can't? Because if we, the believers, are not educated on how to handle these issues outside, or at least talk about them people make mistakes. A lot of my daughter is in co our daughter is in college and she tells me all the time there's pressure that they go through having to deal with all these gay and lesbian issues. But we are encouraging her and constantly giving her the word and giv answering her questions. But then when it comes to the church, as a church, as a building where Christians come together or fellowship, we don't talk about these things.

These things are not being discussed.

So what what what is the reason why if you can shed some light there? very important question and a very telling question. And I'm so glad that you and your husband are there for your daughter, needing encouragement and strength. Why aren't these issues being addressed more In churches from behind the pulpit. I spoke at a church yesterday morning, and I was asked to address: Can you be gay and Christian?

And also to to interact with transgender issues as well. And I said to the people, look, you need to know how to answer these questions biblically and with compassion and with wisdom. What happens when your kid comes home from school with questions? What happens when you're bombarded on social media? What happens in the workplace?

What happens in society around you? telling that so few pastors do address these. There are several reasons, and only God knows which applies in each case. In some cases, they have a mistaken view of tax-exempt status and separation of church and state, and think all they should do is just kind of preach. Biblical lessons of a spiritual nature from the pulpit.

Of course, that's a very mistaken idea. Another one is they don't know how to address them. They themselves don't have the answers, and therefore they don't bring it up because they don't know the answers. Another one is they're afraid to. They don't want the controversy, they don't want to be blacklisted.

They don't want to get in trouble with their denomination. Maybe the biggest givers in the church, their granddaughter just came out as lesbian and they're affirming her. And if the pastor says something, they're going to leave and take their money with them. Maybe they just want to be looked at as nice people.

So Okay, that's In point of fact, it's terrible. that more are not speaking up. It needs to be done. Um George Barna uh recently stated The studies that he did found that although 90% of Christian leaders believed That the Bible clearly addressed most of today's controversial issues. Only 10% were bold enough to address them.

And as for the congregations, Overwhelmingly, the people said, address these. We need help. We need answers. We need to be equipped. We need to be strengthened.

We need wisdom. What does the Bible say? How should we respond to these things? Because in the real world, you're dealing with it. Your daughter's dealing with it.

And it's a shame, it's a crying shame that more are not addressing things little by little. More are, but it's a crying shame. I know for a fact Speaking to leaders, that some will not do it because it's considered too controversial.

Some will not do it because they don't want to rock the boat. They know that the moment they bring up the issue, they're going to be looked at as hateful. And some say, Look, I don't want to drive someone away who's seeking, who has legitimate needs, who's struggling. You can do both. Look, when I address these issues, When I speak pleasantly.

Plainly About these issues from the pulpit. I do it in a way that if someone came there struggling with same-sex attraction, a 15-year-old kid who's been suicidal, they will feel the love of God. If someone walked in there, a man who identified as a woman, and he's there in a wig, wearing a dress, holding his Bible, he would feel loved. We can speak the truth in love. Please pray.

For pastors and leaders to stand and speak, my dear sister. It is a major need, and we have no excuse. Please pray for awakening behind the pulpits. It's the line of fire with your host, Dr. Michael Brown, your voice of moral, cultural, and spiritual revolution.

Here again is Dr. Michael Brown. Thanks so much for joining us on the line of fire, 866-34TRUTH. It's frustrating. But do not allow fleshly frustration to cloud your vision or thinking or judgment.

Instead, pray for God's heart. To love those who are on the fringes, to love those who are different, to love those who struggle. And often behind the LGBT anger and hostility, there's often hurt. And pain, let's see. Through things and see God's perspective, and see what God wants to do in these lives and the potential of a changed life, while at the same time standing up for what is right.

Remember the philosophy we have followed since Early 2005, beginning 2004, but clearly articulated in 2005, reach out and resist. Reach out to the people with compassion. Resist the agenda with courage. 86634TRUTH. We go to Baltimore, Maryland.

Stephanie, welcome to the line of fire. Hi, how you doing? Doing well, thank you.

Well, I'm calling in because I currently work for an insurance agency and So we're forced when a member calls and they say, well, it could be a woman and she states.

Well, me and my wife just got married or uh a male can say me and my husband, um, you know, we just ha ahead of baby, you know, adopted the baby or whatever. And we're forced to congratulate them. you know, we have to say, well, congratulations on your marriage. Or your baby. And by doing this, you know, I feel convicted.

you know, having to say that. Because it goes against everything I believe. Yeah. Now, Stephanie, what if somebody called in? And he said, uh, my girlfriend and I just had a baby.

And would you be required to say congratulations to that person as well? Yeah. Okay. Um Yeah, what what I would do is is speak to your supervisor. I can't imagine that the law requires you to say congratulations.

That's just good customer service with your company, right? Yeah. Uh do you have a problem? With then handling the case, handling you know, updating the records or doing whatever, does that cause you to struggle as well? Or is it primarily saying congratulations?

Well, i it was primarily saying congratulations and, you know, going over pretty much all their benefits with them. And you know, sometimes they're so frustrated and I'm supposed to, you know, show them that you know, I'm there for them and I'm here to help them, but By doing this, I feel like I'm just going against everything I believe. Right, right. And look, increasingly, we're going to be faced with this, Stephanie. And you don't want to water down your convictions.

So you have to work this through before the Lord. What I would do. Is uh If you're known as a good worker and you've got a friendly demeanor, so in other words, no one can accuse you of being mean-spirited or nasty, or you've got tons of complaints against you and customer service and things like that, I will go to a supervisor and say, listen, if If something is really contrary to my faith. You know, let's just say somebody, a Hindu person, bought an idol. You know, and for their temple, and they wanted to increase their insurance because they have a new idol for the temple, right?

You'd have a hard time saying, Oh, congratulations on the new idol.

So if you say, Look, when things violate my religious beliefs, if it's a guy with his girlfriend having a baby, and I'm supposed to congratulate him, or if it's two men that just got, quote, married, I have to congratulate him, that's a violation of my faith. All right, this is yours truly Michael Brown. I heard a loud clap of thunder. And next thing... I start seeing messages on my screen that we are Off.

The air offline, so somehow I got knocked offline, but I'm back.

So my uh My apologies. It looks like, okay, so we are reconnected. Everything is good, Joey. Just give me the heads up once more before I hang up. All right.

We're hanging up the phone. We're back.

Somehow, there was a jolt of a. A clap of thunder? And I don't know what happened. Maybe there was lightning. That I didn't see, but well, shades are closed where I'm looking out the window.

Anyway, my apologies.

So, right in the middle of an important call, my dear sister, if you're still there. If you're still there. Yeah. Yeah, I would recommend You ask the supervisor and say, hey. This causes me.

To violate my conscience and my faith. You know, I'm a good worker. You know, I'm polite to everyone. But I can't say. Congratulations to good conscience.

Can I do something else? What would you recommend? Can I simply thank them so much for calling or say glad to be of service to you? Because we're going to serve everybody. That's fine.

We're going to serve everybody. If a gay couple comes into my store, if I have a convenience store and they say, you know, they get a bottle of water in a candy bar, of course you serve them like everybody else. And if the only time you don't is if you have to participate in something that you differ with.

So I would politely ask that. I would politely say, What would you recommend? Because I can't do this in conscience, and give a number of scenarios. Given a number of scenarios, including a guy with his girlfriend saying, Hey, just had a baby. And I don't know if this is covered on my current insurance policy because we're not married yet.

And how does this work? You wouldn't say, Well, congratulations for having a baby out of wedlock. See how they respond, and if they respond negatively, then really pray. That the Lord would open another door if you can't do that in good conscience. You can serve everyone, but that doesn't mean you have to congratulate everyone on every decision that they make when those things are in violation of your faith.

All right, friends, be sure to visit the website, askdrbrown.org. Check out latest articles, latest videos, and this week's special resource offer, as well as our Israel trip. My bottom line today, there is an increasing hostility towards the gospel in America right now. That means we must be all the more loud and clear and loving.

Well, you want some clear signs that America has declared war on our faith? I've got them for you today. Um It's time for the line of fire with your host, activist, author, international speaker, and theologian, Dr. Michael Brown, your voice of moral, cultural, and spiritual revolution. Michael Brown is the director of the Coalition of Conscience and president of Fire School of Ministry.

Get into the line of fire now by calling 866-34 Truth. That's 866-34 Truth. Here again is Dr. Michael Brown. So I started writing out articles that I needed to write.

One item after another, after another, after another, after another. And I said, you know what? I think I need to write one article with a bunch of examples. This is Michael Brown. You are listening to the line of fire.

And I am your friendly. loving, caring, compassionate. Voice of moral, cultural, and spiritual revolution. Not mean-spirited, not angry, not hostile, but speaking the truth in love. As God has broken my heart with love for all people, including those I differ with, including those that I would see on the fringes, including those whose viewpoints or beliefs or agendas are very different than mine.

As God has given me love for all people, He's also put in my heart to speak the truth. Love speaks the truth. We're going to do that today on the line of fire. 866-348-7884. So I wrote an article.

You can read it on a bunch of different websites. Today, seven sure signs that America has declared war on our faith. Seven sure signs that America has declared war on our faith. And I list actions from the NCAA. from the Colorado Supreme Court.

Actions against from Georgia, against Dr. Eric Walsh. And I've got the NBA, I've got Department of Education. On and on it goes. I'm going to share some of these with you, but here's my question.

Are you experiencing increasing hostility to the faith? In the workplace? At your school, your college campus, or even high school or middle school. Are you experiencing increasing hostility to the faith in your social media circles, among your friends and peers? If so, give me a call.

I couldn't get to all the calls last hour. In other words, the answer is yes, many are. There is an increasing turning against the gospel and biblical values in society. to the point that we are now the guilty parties. We are now the guilty party.

For it's saying you know, we we don't think a man should be in a lady's locker room. You know, we don't believe that God made men to marry men or women to marry women.

Now we are the guilty party and we should be discriminated against. And if you live in North Carolina, You may know that the NBA announced that it will not hold next year's All-Star game in Charlotte. Unless the state changes HB2, the Bathroom Privacy Act.

So unless North Carolina agrees to let grown men use women's locker rooms and changing facilities, and unless it removes protections for religious liberties, it will be punished. What kind of social madness is this? You see, and I've heard you address these things before, yes, for years. But I'm trying to address them even more loudly, even more clearly, even more consistently, because so many have still not awakened. And as one woman asked last hour, why aren't more pastors and leaders speaking up?

I don't mean bashing people from the pulpit. I don't mean screaming and yelling and damning everybody to hell whose views are not exactly like ours. I mean speaking the truth in love. The sheep need equipping. I I receive Yeah, hate mail day and night, yes.

But thank you. Emails and posts. And calls day and night from people saying, Thank God you're speaking out. Thank God for your radio show. Thank God for your articles and videos.

You are my voice. I'm grateful for that. I know God's called me to do that. I take this as a sacred responsibility. But can I say plainly?

I should be one of a multitude of voices addressing these same issues as opposed to one of a clear minority. All right, we go to the phones. We come back, starting with Barry, 866-342. Change the world. Change the world.

God of light, hear our cry. Send a fire. It's the line of fire with your host, Dr. Michael Brown, your voice of moral, cultural, and spiritual revolution. Here again is Dr.

Michael Brown. Welcome, welcome to the line of fire, where we get to serve as your voice of moral clarity. Moral sanity and spiritual clarity. The first item I listed. And my seven sure signs that America has declared war on our faith.

And by the way, it could have been 15, could have been 30. I mean, there are just so many. These are all recent examples. That the NCAA Announced that it will not hold any men's and women's Final Four basketball events. For those not familiar, this is a massive, massive.

Uh uh sports events every year. That they will not hold any men's and women's Final Four basketball events in a city that, quote, discriminates against anyone based on sexual orientation or gender identity. Meaning, once again, that if a state says we're going to protect people's religious liberties, And if a state says we are we are not going to let grown men use a locker room with uh a girl, Then the NCA said, We won't, we won't hold. Hold the final four. Basketball game there, men's or women's?

Again, this is social madness. Drunk in this Kool-Aid, this social justice Kool-Aid that is full of deception. They may think they're standing up for rights. What they're doing is standing against public safety and standing for discrimination. 866-34TRUTH, Barry in Stephen City, Virginia.

Thanks so much for holding over from the first hour. Welcome to the line of fire. Yeah, good afternoon, doctor Brown, and God bless. Thank you.

Tell me about the NCAA and I guess I've got teenage kids getting ready to go into college, wanting college now. They're all athletes and And um I I guess what I would would say about that is Is At at some point we've got to, as Christians, we've got to stand up and, as the scripture says, faith without works is dead and and let the world know that we don't agree. whether the Christian athletes refused to to walk onto a court where the alumni refuse to continue to support the schools. Um Christians in my viewpoint, need to start applying pressure. And it can be done without being hateful and just saying that, hey, this is our beliefs that we believe in.

And if we don't align align, then we can't support you if you're going to go this far. Exactly. Exactly, sir. And that's where if enough people stand, the bullies have to back down.

So let's just say, and I've appealed to Christian athletes. To do this very thing, professional athletes. And I'm in interaction on some level behind the scenes on this right now. But Let's say The athletes in the NBA, Christian athletes, and you've got a good number of them that are strong, committed Christians. And they are the strengths of the league.

The athletes are the strengths of any league. The the NCAA without its student athletes has nothing. Without these players who are playing hard, I was just in Alabama and was in a church where some of the Christian players go. And Alabama won the national championship in football. Without the Christian players on the team, that team would have been greatly weakened and had a good number of Christian players.

So if the athletes simply said, don't use us as pawns in the culture wars. We're here to get an education at our school, and we know that as the team wins, that the the T V contracts and other things and rewards for winning championships, it brings a ton of money into the school. Please don't use us as pawns in the culture wars. Don't use us to make statements against religious freedoms. Don't use us to make statements against public safety.

It's one thing if we're going to have a get-in, you know, we're going to have a campaign together for everyone to get fit in America. We want young people to get fit. We're going to have a campaign for that. All right, great. Athletes can get involved with that.

But to use them as pawns in the culture wars, I mean, it's one thing if they said we're going to have a drive to encourage students to do well in school and we want to be good examples of student athletes. Great. But to use them as ponds in the culture is better, you're 100% right. They they need to say, sorry, we can't play. Under these circumstances, And send a message to the NCAA, send a message to the NBA, to the NFL.

If enough do it, the bullies will back down. And if they have parents like you, Barry, that tell their kids, We're going to stand together on this. I'm paying for education, but we're going to stand together on this, then the kids would be much more emboldened. as well. Um You're absolutely right.

How how do your kids feel about this? Have you talked to them about it? We haven't talked in depth about it. the it's something we're going to talk about. Um but the uh You know, the other thing is is does Do we not realize we're throwing the the door wide open for sexual predators?

Of course. I mean, you know, that's an invitation. Yeah, look. Look, every time this comes up, and in fact, I got some audio clips I'm going to play in a moment. But every time this comes up People say, well, you're assuming that this transgender guy wants to abuse your wife or your daughter or your sister.

Or your granddaughter. No, we're not assuming that. We're assuming number one. That many will still be uncomfortable with the presence of a biological male. For example, if Nancy was using a fitting room at Target and a biological male came in there who identifies as a woman.

And who's harmless in that respect, she would still be uncomfortable with the presence of a biological male in there. And if your wife or your daughter came walking out of the shower stall at the YMCA with a towel wrapped around them, and there's a biological male sitting there who identifies as a woman and is quote harmless, they'll still be uncomfortable. Rightly so. But how do you distinguish between that man, who is quote harmless, and the sexual predator who now uses this as an entry point? And we have example after example of sexual predators doing this very thing.

Yet when we raise it, you get mocked for it and it's it's a shame. Uh Congressman Larry Goldmert. said that he thinks it's something like twenty percent of women And Matt, maybe you can get a stat on this, who report either being raped or sexually abused at some point in life.

So at least 20%. And those who identify as transgender. Or less than one well less than a half percent.

So even for the sake of the large number of women, Who say that they've been sexually abused or raped, traumatized by these things? Put them first, and don't have a grown man walk in the bathroom with them, even if he's not a predator. Put their concerns and their safety and their needs first. And, Barry, if you've taught your kids rightly, and based on your convictions, I would assume you have. They should understand that it's a costly thing to follow Jesus.

And I almost need to write a chapter or an article where we lay out how people have suffered for the faith. through history. And until this day around the world, and then we say, okay, here's a sacrifice for us, don't go to Target. Yeah, we we need to put it in context, don't we? Yeah.

No, we definitely don't go to Target. Yeah. Well, listen, God bless you. May the Lord use your kids to make a difference. And here's what we do: we stand up wherever we are.

We stand up. Wherever we are in love and in truth. Thank you so much, sir, for calling. I appreciate it. Important discussion to have with our kids.

So let's go to these clips here. Megan Kelly. has Governor Pat Ricard, North Carolina Governor on. And then Then she has as well a Montel Williams come on. And if Megan Kelly is not some staunch, rock-solid conservative.

And Fox is hardly some staunch, rock-solid, conservative TV network. they've gotten even less so. Over the years, Fox News in particular, but still more conservative than the other networks. Megan Kelly, if you want to talk about wimping out, and a bunch of people said, What in the world were you thinking? What happened to you?

Let's grab some of these clips, starting with clip number three. And Megan Kelly and Governor Pat McCrory are interacting. And she's missing the point entirely. Governor McCrory weighs in. And then um I'll play more of Governor McCroy before you hear what Montel Williams has to say.

Clip number three. I've been in women's bathrooms my whole life. And we don't have the urinal situation. We got like the stalls. And we get to go in, we go to do our business, and like we don't, it's not, we don't see each other.

So what? Why are you concerned about young girls exposing themselves or seeing somebody else exposed in a woman's bathroom?

Well, first of all, I can't believe we're talking about this. Yeah. Oh, okay.

So how does this keep coming up? This is not an issue that we started or created.

So listen to what Governor McCrory has to say. Number four. It's the basic expectation of privacy that I hear from mom and dads and families that when their daughter or son goes into a facility, a restroom, they expect people of that gender, of that biological sex or gender to be the only other ones in that. That's the expectations that we've had for many, many years. Yeah.

Do do we need to even lay this out? Do we need to even explain that you have signs in front that say men's bathroom, women's bathroom, men's locker room, women's locker room for a reason? And Megan Kelly, are you unaware of the predators that have been going into the stalls and they hold their cell phone under the stall, under the changing room area, or under the bathroom stall to try to see who's next to them, or hold it over on top? You're unaware of those things happening, and we're saying we need to shut the door on predators however possible. And you're saying you're Five-year-old girl with her eight-year-old sister going into the ladies' room when there's a grown man in there washing his hands, they're not gonna wonder, feel uncomfortable.

Give me a break! Oh God of burning, cleansing flame. Save. It's the line of fire with your host, Dr. Michael Brown.

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So Montel Williams Upset with comments made by Governor McCrory, Megan Kelly. I don't see her a lot. But this was as wimpy as I've ever seen her. And others are thinking, what in the world are you thinking as a mother of children?

So listen to Montel Williams, who's upset with North Carolina's bathroom. Privacy Bill, clip number five. Why are you shaking your head at that? I'm shaking my head because this is all a ruse. And what the Republican Party has to understand is that you've taken a bill, this HB2, and their discussions about bathrooms.

And basically, it says just the part that we were discussing there says that if you're transgendered, you can't use the bathroom of choice. You have to use the bathroom of the sex that you were born with. Exactly. Therefore, if you go to North Carolina, you have to carry your birth certificate with you because that's the only way to validate your sex. I know, is there going to be like a potty police?

I think so as we stand outside asking you and me to pull down our pants. There you go. That's one. You talk about Uh I don't want to use words too strong. But that discussion strikes me as quite idiotic.

First, Megan Kelly mocking the idea of hyposexior assigned at birth. Megan Wh when did you find out if you were having a boy or a girl? When did you find that out? Three or four or five years into the child's development, you you and your husband said, Okay, I guess we can name him Charlie or name her Sue. Or when the the nurse said Looking at the ultrasound, it's a boy.

It's a girl. Whereas in the old days you didn't know until the baby was born. Remember that in the old days, still many parts of the world don't have ultrasounds. And you know, one lady would say, Yeah, you're carrying this way, it's definitely a girl. And another lady, no, I've been around, I can see that's definitely a boy the way he's moving.

It's like, really? Is it? And you'd want and what's the Lord saying? Is it a boy or a girl? And you'd have names maybe prepared for both.

Hmm. Uh And then then uh It's wh when did you find out? Megan? that that your kid was a boy or a girl. Yes, it's not assigned, it's identified, it's recognized.

Unless that child has ambiguous or or missing or dual genitalia, something like that, or some chromosomal abnormality that is quickly manifest, Then it's a boy, it's a girl, and you name it. You didn't say, okay, we're gonna call you Jordan Jennifer. And then as you come into your own identity, we'll decide if you're really Jordan, if you're really Jennifer.

Okay, we're gonna call you Sam Sue. And then, as you really identify clearly, then we'll determine if you're actually Sam or if you're actually Sue. Come on And look. If if someone to all outward appearance is female. It's f that A hundred people out of a hundred people would identify that person as female.

And that person had sex change many, many years ago and looks totally female. Nobody is noticing that that woman, that that man who appears to be a woman, or however you're going to define this individual, that no one's stopping them from going into the ladies' room because no one has any clue. That they're not a lady. You say, well, how are you going to keep the predators out? Because the predator is a man dressed as a woman.

That's the way you keep the predator out. And when the man who dresses as a woman can go in there. And and you say, well, you gotta carry your birth certificate. No. Gosh.

Potty police. Do people not have heads on their shoulders as they are saying these things? Is there no sensitivity to the fact that this opens the door wide to predators? And there are now examples after examples after examples of people using these very laws and infiltrating bathrooms, locker rooms? And is there.

Montelle, you don't have the slightest problem. If you've got granddaughters and they're at the YMCA in the ladies' locker room, you don't have any problem with a biological male using the shower stall next to them. You don't have any problem with that? Even if he's not a predator? You've got no problem with that?

Seriously? As the conversation goes on we'll go to clip number six. And then number two, the other thing is that there are three other articles here. One is the anti-discrimination ability to sue for discrimination in the state of North Carolina. This is a different part of the bill that's gotten less attention, the law.

No one's talking about it. That's one. Explain that. It's a part of the bill that will not allow anyone to sue the state of North Carolina for discrimination in any of the contracts that they sign. Two, that's the same.

If they're gay, if they've been discriminated against based on their sexual orientation. Oh, no. The language is so broad that this could be misinterpreted to say black, Hispanic, Asian, woman, female.

Well, that would be thrown right out. And also... That would be clearly unconstitutional. But nobody's talking about it. And if you take a look at also the other tenant, which says that even in businesses, I can't sue you in the state of North Carolina for discriminating against me if you don't allow I and my wife, who happens to be Caucasian, to get a room in your hotel.

I can't sue you in the state of North Carolina. They're saying that, look, the remedies are there because in federal law you can sue. But how many people can afford a federal lawsuit? The fact is, first we're not having these problems. the Charlotte Bill was a radical bill.

It was a radical extreme bill. that was wrong headed, that never should have been put forward, and the State corrected it. That's the first thing. The second thing is, there have been no cases that have been brought to the Attorney General, of which I am aware, where someone was refused service. Because they were gay or lesbian, in particular, because they were.

Black. There's not zero And you have all of your state discrimination laws on the on the books already. to say it could be interpreted To mean thus and such nonsense. Why is Fox having Montel Williams on and Megan Kelly agreeing with him as if this is somehow a sober, conservative, fair perspective? Uh Montel Williams has compared gay marriage opponents, as he would phrase it, compared us to ISIS and Taliban.

Yeah Let's grab one more clip, clip number seven. And listen. to what Montel Williams has to say. And then the last one is that they slip in a cap to the minimum wage.

So North Carolinians got a bill that basically now says no matter what the minimum wage is in the rest of the country, you are capped to anybody coming to your state can't sue if they feel that they're discriminated against at state law level.

Alright, so here's the thing. Let's discuss that th well we'll discuss minimum wage. In other words, is that really the issue? Is that what the uproar is over? No.

Is the NBA, is the NCAA, are they saying we won't do things in your state? Because of the minimum wage? No, that's not the issue. Don't make it an issue. Montel, if you could at least agree that we want to keep sexual predators out of bathrooms and locker rooms, if you could at least agree.

That the first concern should be the safety, the privacy, and the feeling that when I go in a bathroom, when I go in a locker room, as a woman, as a girl in particular, as the most vulnerable, that when I go in there, that at least I can know that I'm in a private, safe place I is that to be scorned, sir? Is it to be completely scorned? Are you to take the sensitivities, the needs, the concerns of 99.7 or 8% of the population, toss them Because 0.02% struggle. Does that make any sense to you, sir? Is it possible that your activism has blinded you from rational thinking on this?

We'll be right back. It's the line of fire with your host, activist, author, international speaker, and theologian Dr. Michael Brown. Your voice of moral, cultural, and spiritual revolution. Get into the line of fire now by calling 866-34TRU.

Here again is Dr. Michael Brown. Thank you so much for joining us on the line of fire. There is no question. There is an increased hostility towards the faith.

An increased hostility towards the gospel, an increased hostility towards conservative Christian values in America, and it is to be expected. The darkness does not appreciate the light. It doesn't mean everything the world does is dark and everything the church does is light. Obviously, not. But it means when we hold to conservative moral values, that those who don't will feel threatened by those.

Those who don't will express hostility towards them. Those who don't will. Oppose our freedoms to hold to these in many cases. I'm delighted to be with you. I've written an article, seven sure signs that America has declared war on our faith.

I've heard from a lot of callers in the last hour and a half who've expressed that, yes, they're running into this, be it on the college campus. Be it in the workplace, an increasing hostility towards their faith. If you're running into this as well, In the workplace, among your friends, peers, On your college campus or school campus, give me a call. I'd like to hear what you're running into. If you are seeing an increase in hostility towards our views, 866-348-7884.

On the other hand, if you think that we have no right to hold to these views, except in private, that this is the proper separation of church and state, by all means, weigh in as well. 866-348-7884. And I want to go straight to the phones in Durham, North Carolina. Tony, welcome to the line of fire. Thanks, doctor Brown, for having me on and let me hear.

I appreciate your passion. That you have for doing the work of God. I have two points or two matters that I want to bring. When this Yeah. For me, it's a no-brainer, okay, as Christians.

We are called to be the End is of the phase. We are called to speak the truth in love. We are the light of the world, the salt of the world, so forth and so on. I saw the bathroom issues with no brain. If you're male, you go to the male's threshold.

You're female, you go to the female threshold.

However, I just took it upon myself to read this bill just within the past week. And I see why there is concern with the wording of this bill. beyond the bathroom issue. And so the balance that we should get is a no-brainer. But again, the concern with the bill, when you look at the entire document, for me, it is a concern, and I haven't been biased by.

Um anything that anyone else has said, because I just write it for myself. But that's the first matter.

However, my greatest concern Is for, not that I have been persecuted or openly opposed, but this is where I have an issue, and I think you've kind of touched on it. is that First of all, this this group of people that we're talking about, they have to be the minority in our world. I can't believe that LGBTs outnumber those who, for the most part, think like you and I think regarding this gender matter. But what concerns me though is for Christians who are not Dispenders are the fake. Either they are ignorant to the truth or they are reluctant to speak the truth.

And likewise, those Christian leaders Um I guess you would say kind of dance around it. You hear one thing, but you're not really sure what they're saying. Are they for it or against it? That really is an issue with me today as I look at leadership in particular. Where do you stand, Pastor?

Where do you stand, church leader? And we've got to make it clear so that Tom, those of us who are worshiping there, we know where you stand and decide to either stay there because you are. Indeed, in favor of the word of God being the inspired word of God from cover to cover, and it being in error.

So that's my concerns or my thoughts that I wanted to bring before your listeners.

So thank you. Yeah, you're very welcome. And Tony, likewise, I appreciate your passion in what you're saying. I've got a break coming up. Stay right there.

I want to address what you said on the other side of the break. I want to give an example from Pastor Brian McLaren on a TV broadcast years ago and where he is today. Tony, I hope other pastors and leaders can. hear your words, and you're saying to them as a congregant, as a member, Be clear, let the trumpet give a clear sound so we know how to respond. Hey, this is Michael Brown.

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Michael Brown. Thanks again for joining us on the line of fire 866-34Truth. We're talking about the increasing war on our faith here in America. And Tony in Durham, North Carolina, what I wanted to say was this. When you say that some pastors and leaders are just unclear, you don't know where they stand.

There is a wisdom in Jesus sometimes where he won't answer your question directly. and ask you another question that will expose something in your own heart, But you better believe that Jesus was clear on who he was and where he stood and what it meant to follow him. And the New Testament makes very clear this is right, this is wrong. There may be issues where we could have a friendly debate about a peripheral issue. But the clear issues about faith in Jesus, about who God is, about what God requires of us, there are foundational, clear issues without question that are laid out in the New Testament.

So, Tony, some years ago, I saw, it's probably Larry King. He had a faith panel on talking about redefining marriage and homosexual issues and things like that. And if I remember, Tim and Beverly LeHayron, T.D. Jakes was on, Brian McLaren was on, if I remember. And when he asked Brian McLaren, he said, you know what hurts me about this question?

is however I answer, I'm I'm going to offend someone. In other words, if I stand against homosexual practice, I'm going to offend those that claim to be gay Christians. And if I stand with them, then I'm going to offend those who claim to hold to traditional biblical morality. And when I heard that answer, I knew he's compromised. He's ready to compromise because the Bible's clear on this.

So a few years after that, he comes out in favor of same-sex, quote, marriage. And I believe he performs a sermon for his own son or someone else.

So, yes, sir. The failure to answer clearly. On important life and death issues, where congregants need insight and wisdom and equipping. And if the pastor doesn't know where to go, there are tons of resources. I offered several times.

to pastoral networks, bring all your guys together. If it's throughout the state. or throughout the city Bring them together. Don't pay me anything. I will show up and teach for the whole day to equip the leaders to serve and let them know about resources we have, free resources online and other things they can purchase so as to serve.

So There's no good reason for it, Tony. We must speak the truth. in love. John Wesley said, We're all approve, few profit. One of the Puritans said, Ministers are physicians, not cooks, and they shouldn't study to please the palate, but to cure the patient.

Thank you, sir, for the call. 866-34TRUTH. Rightly so, when Montel Williams appeared on Megan Kelly's show, And uh talked uh Same the bathroom privacy and things like that. And Megan Kelly makes a mockery of you have the sexual assigned at birth. Oh gosh, I just it's almost like people just drink the Kool-Aid and stop thinking rationally.

and and her guest uh Montell Williams What does he have to say? I'm not saying he's unreasonable on every point, but on these points, extremely unreasonable. Previously, here's an article on ChristianExaminer.com from June of 2015. Talk show host Bontell Williams compared opponents of gay marriage to ISIS and the Taliban. On social media over the weekend, and then doubled down when challenged on his logic.

Yeah, exactly. These are the extreme stands that are being taken. This is how we are being viewed, which is why all the more we must stand up and speak the truth.

Well, then I'll get branded even more.

Well, are you going to get branded more than Jesus was? Has has anybody threatened to nail you to a cross yet? Has that really happened? Yeah. It hasn't happened to us here in America, so let's not be cowards.

Let's not hide behind our... Spiritual ease and back down from loyalty and faithfully to the Lord. 866-34-TRUTH. Family Policy Institute says that the target stocks have tanked with over 1 million people boycotting the retailer. I referenced this earlier in the show, but let me come back to it in some detail.

The company's stock fell from $84.10 per share on April 19th to roughly $79.36. As of Friday morning, that loss of $4.74 per share, if constant, would represent a corporate loss of over $2.5 billion. That's people just saying. Please. Please, do what's right.

And please care about the vast majority of your customers who do not believe that a war against gender distinctions is a good thing. I want to play one more clip. Montel Williams on. Megan Kelly. Uh now from what I've read this is just Public information.

So, on Wikipedia, I've not researched Montel Williams' life at all, but apparently raised Roman Catholic, served as an altar boy. Then there's an altercation with a priest at 11. What kind of altercation? Was he abused or attacked by a priest? Was it that kind of altercation?

If so, you could understand some of his hostility towards religion. After this, he moved away from Catholicism, and in 2014, he said he rejected all. organized religion, always been a student of many world Major world faiths.

So listen to his views about those with beliefs, like most of you listening to me right now. Clip number eight. I mean, Ted Cruz loves this issue. He's been exploiting it. He's been distinguishing himself from Trump, saying Donald Trump thinks it's appropriate for a grown man to go into a little girl's bathroom, talking about how horrific this would be for our daughters and so on.

He clearly thinks he's onto something. Right here. Morgan Stabler. And Michael Hughes. Which one is which?

Okay? This is Michael Hughes, but Michael was born a female.

Now, is Michael now supposed to walk into the women's bathroom and tell me that you're going to like to see Michael standing there? Or, in my case, Morgan was born a female, a male. And this is Morgan now.

So Morgan now has to walk into the men's bathroom and do what? We don't know what her anatomy is. When she walks out, somebody's going to inspect to see if she's been... Stop the stupid. Both of these guys claim to be Christian moralists.

What is the basic premise of every religion on this planet? You get judged by what you do for the least of us when you pass on. How dare you try to judge them now? on this planet and claim to be a Christian. You can't have it both ways.

You can't. Ted Cruz thinks he's onto something. He's not onto something. There's national outrage over this nonsense. And Donald Trump, who's presented himself as a champion of conservative values and as a protector of the Christians, and he's going to bring Christ back into Christmas and Christians will never have a better friend than him, he did not stand up with North Carolina and the Christians in North Carolina, nor did he stand up with common sense.

And and and safety.

So Montel if you care about the least of these. If you care about the least of these, How about the little girls? How about the little boys that are traumatized and upset by the presence of a biological male or female in their respective bathrooms? Is that of no concern to you? What about the women who have been sexually abused?

Is that not of any concern to you? And yes, you care about those who identify as transgender, but how about trying to help them? Because the vast majority of boys who identify as girls, vice versa, when they get past puberty, no longer identify as trans, the vast majority. And many after sex change surgery still fight depression and still are suicidal. And you can't just blame it on transphobia.

There are often other issues that don't get addressed. And once more, If there is someone Who Was on hormones from, say, the age of eight, hormone blockers, eight or nine, and then had sex change surgery at the age of 18 and been on hormones ever since. And their birth certificate has been changed. You don't realize that that was a biological male that went into the ladies' room because no, and no one ever would have known anything differently. But once you make the law, how can Montel, how can you not see this?

Once you make the law saying all you have to do is identify as female, use the ladies' room, it opens the door wide to all kinds of abuses. Montell, you may not claim to be a Christian. But how can you call Christians hypocrite? hypocrites when you are despising. Christian values, biblical values, and the needs of tens of millions of the least of these.

It's the line of fire with your host, Dr. Michael Brown, your voice of moral, cultural, and spiritual revolution. Here again is Dr. Michael Brown. Let me give you some more examples of how clearly.

America is declaring war on our faith. In my article, Seven Sure Signs America has declared war on our faith. You can read it by going to askdrbrown.org, clicking on latest article. Be sure to click on latest video as well. We've added a few more important videos in the last few days.

I'll run through the list real quick. NCA announced that it will not hold any men's and women's Final Four basketball events in a city that, quote, discriminates. Against anyone based on sexual orientation or gender identity.

So, if you protect religious freedoms, and if you say men shouldn't go in women's locker rooms, they won't hold the final four game there. Number two, Colorado Supreme Court has chosen not to hear the case of Christian Baker Jack Phillips, who was previously ordered by the Colorado Civil Rights Commission to quote: create cakes for same-sex celebrations, re-educate his staff. Yeah, re-education camps. Re-educate his staff, well not in the camp, but re-educate his staff, and file quarterly compliance reports for two years. Number three, Dr.

Eric Walsh, the highly qualified newly hired District Health Director with the Georgia Department of Public Health, was fired because of the content of his sermons as a Seventh-day Adventist. Number four. Several senators have introduced a bill that would deem all efforts to change someone's sexual orientation or gender identity an unfair or deceptive act or practice under the Federal Trade Commission Act. It would be illegal. Illegal.

Illegal. For a council a counselor to sit with someone. 20 year old man. has been abused. Growing up, And there's now same-sex attracted.

and struggles and does not want to be same-sex attractive. It would be illegal to counsel him. Not just a minor. That's obscene enough to say it'd be illegal to counsel them. But a twenty year old man illegal to counsel him.

Uh oh. A woman. comes in. I I feel like I'm a man in a woman's body. I don't wanna I wanna be a woman.

I just wanna be a woman. I wanna be at home in my body. It would be illegal to counsel that person unless you said, no, no, celebrate your homosexual attraction or celebrate your gender identity. Mm-hmm. Family therapist Adam Jessel said.

said this, in today's climate, if Bill tells me that he's attracted to his neighbor, Fred's young child. His neighbor Fred's young child, and he wants to reduce these attractions, I, as a therapist, can try to help him. If Bill has an unwanted attraction to Fred's wife, this too is something I'm permitted to help him with. But if Bill has an unwanted attraction to Fred himself, then it's regarded as unethical for me to help. It could be illegal soon.

It could be illegal, soon. Number five, the NBA announced that it will not hold next year's All-Star Game in Charlotte. North Carolina lists the state changes HB2, the Bathroom Privacy Act. Number six, the Department of Education has decided that religious schools that receive federal money yet obtain federal exemptions to Quote, discriminate against LGBT students and employees will have their waivers posted online for public view. We're going to publicly shame you.

if you're a Christian school that holds to Christian values. Oh yeah. And number seven, a federal court sided with a transgender student who insisted that the Obama administration's reading of Federal Title IX rules would allow her to choose her own bathroom at her Virginia high school. And the government is threatening. The government is threatening if you want Title IX funding, then you're going to have to let boys use girls' bathrooms, vice versa.

Boys use girls' locker rooms if they want to. That's how they identify. The federal government And I could give more examples.

So one other thing happened. over the weekend. Uh Uh before I get to that. GLAAD, which is the gay, it used to be called the Gay and Lesbian Alliance Against Defamation. I renamed it the Gay and Lesbian Alliance Against Disagreement.

But because they had so little defamation to deal with, they just want to be known as GLAD. They're not happy. with um uh let's see with Disney Paramount and and and um Let's see. Disney, Paramount and Warners. They they have flunked GLAD's LGBT report card.

Not Gay positive enough, not enough gay characters. And, you know, God forbid there be any kind of joke that could be taken in any negative way. And they're calling for LGBT characters in Star Wars. But of course, You must have Star Wars characters who are gay. Could you have Star Wars without it?

That's the absurdity we're living with.

Okay, so Kurt Schilding, baseball legend and top baseball analyst Kurt Schilding, fired by ESPN. ESPN has allowed some of their hosts to say the most rancid things, despicable things, comments against others that. are utterly abhorrent, no problem 'cause it's leaning left. But if you lean right and say something that's offensive, you're out.

So Chris Schildin gets fired. For his sharing on his Facebook page. Yeah, it was an offensive-looking picture of a guy. dress like a woman, but I mean really offensive picture. and basically saying you stay out of the ladies' room.

And Kurt Shouldn't just weighing in. He gets fired for that.

Well, Before the Red Sox and the Yankees, Boston Red Sox, which is his team, and New York Yankees, which I grew up with as my team, being a New Yorker. Uh Yankees and Mets, but I preferred the Yankees. They've got one of the historic rivalries in baseball. And yeah, Joey, I know Boston swept over the weekend. Joey's a Red Sox fan.

But there was this amazing comeback. An unprecedented comeback that the Red Sox engineered against the Yankees. I still remember the sinking feeling in my stomach over that as a Yankees fan. And then Kurt Schilling, who played through injury, Pitch one of the most famous games in baseball history, known as the Bloody Sock Game. And I believe he ultimately sold that sock and donated the money or something.

But the camera would zoom in on it. The guy was injured, and he as a pitcher, you can't have an injury in your ankle. Your foot and play through it and be in top shape. But he courageously played through it. His bloody sock game, game number six.

in the World Series. And um Okay. They aired they have a they have a 30 for 30 documentary four days in October. And they aired that. I'm sorry, it was game six of the American League Conference Championship.

They aired that before the Yankees-Red Sox game last night, but there was just one thing missing. and fans noticed it was missing. The bloody sock game wasn't there. The bloody sock Game. wasn't There.

Why? Well all the way to time constraints. Oh, there are a ton of things you could have cut out. ESPN is going to cut out from a documentary these drama-filled documentaries they make they're going to cut out one of the most courageous pitching performances in baseball history, one of the most famous games in baseball history, memorialized by that name, the Bloody Sock game. Why?

Well. After all, you know, Kurt Schilling came out with an anti-transgender comment. Oh, they're not saying that, but people are saying what in the world? And Kurt Schilling replied, While full one year complete fabrication to defame greatest quarterback, now omitting about four hours of a game I think I played in integrity hashtag integrity much Question mark? Yeah, people are saying, What what happened?

What happened to the game? And Chilling rightly says ESPN is some of the biggest racists in sports commentator, but he makes a comment: oh no. Oh no, he is out. Wake up time. Wake up time, wake up time, America.

You say, what can I do? Pray for awakening in your own life. Speak up where you have the opportunity and stand for those and with those who are taking stands. And let us equip you. Go to the website, askdrbrown.org.

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