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Download the Odyssey app today. Good morning to you. It is a Tuesday and it's a terrific Tuesday, but it's also a tragic Tuesday and probably a lot of emotions in between. Man, when I decided that I would pay the bills by being a sports talk radio host, initially it was never part of the plan. One of the things that I didn't really consider is how often there are painful and tragic and devastating topics and headlines that I also have to talk about. I often say that's why I would never work in news again. I did work in news before. And it taught me how to be a journalist.

It taught me how to be objective, taught me how to tell a story and to share all of the angles of a particular news item or a particular event. And so I'm grateful for that training that lasted about six, seven years before I got into sports full-time. I just never realized how very often the sports world intersects with some of those types of events or headlines that we want to avoid when we're in the sports world. When I'm with you, there are times when I use sports as a distraction. Now it's worked for me, so it's a little bit different, but there are times when I just want to talk about football and not think about how awful the world can be. And yet even in the world of sports, it's human beings.

And so we can't escape all of the pain and all of the tragedy and all of the tough stuff that we wish we could forget even for a short time. And that's just not possible. And it's certainly not reality. It's After Hours with Amy Lawrence on CBS Sports Radio. We are live from the Rocket Mortgage Studios.

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Sometimes it's the pattern. Other times we get off the beaten path like the soccer poll that we put up last week where we gauged your interest or attempted to gauge your interest in the U.S. Men's National Team and the World Cup. That's starting on Sunday with the host nation, Qatar, against, I forgot who the host nation is playing, but the very first match of the World Cup starts Sunday. And then the United States plays Monday afternoon, two o'clock Eastern time. It's 11 o'clock in the morning Pacific time. And we were, I thought it was really an honor to have an actual guest from Qatar an hour ago, which is cool because they are eight hours ahead of Eastern time in the United States.

So if you missed that, it's on our podcast After Hours, AmyLawrence.com. And we packed in a lot of football. We still have more to get to. We also want to talk about the rookies of the year or at least let you hear from them. The award season has started. Free agency is underway.

The hot stove is right now merely heating up. There's lots of speculation. We did some speculating with Jim Bowden last week when he joined us on the show.

Lots of traffic on the interview, by the way, because there is a ton of interest. We've got a full Major League Baseball offseason with winter meetings coming up and free agency. All of that that we were deprived of when they went into a lockout last offseason. So it's good to have baseball back in all of its form.

And if you don't know about the changes coming for baseball in 2023, we definitely encourage you to listen to that interview with Jim. So we're going to mix it up. A little bit of baseball, a lot of the NFL, some QB news, and your chance to hear the candidates for TD of the week yet again. Because we're through week 10.

How about that? We're through week 10 and we're mere days away from Thanksgiving. If you're like me, and maybe you're not, but maybe you are.

Maybe there's one or two of you out there who are. You enjoy planning. I enjoy planning. Jay does not enjoy planning.

Jay doesn't plan, actually. How much of your life do you actually believe you plan for versus just winging it? I'm more spontaneous.

Yes. Like, I don't know. It's more fun to be just to be like, oh, that's cool.

Let's do it. And then I just do it. Because sometimes I make plans.

I'm like, I dread them. And I'm like, I really want to go do that like in three weeks. So I just kind of do it.

So do you really want to go to Arizona in three months? Because we could make sure that we don't stress you out with the planning of the Super Bowl trip. No, that's all good. Oh, okay. Why do you think that's all good? I don't know.

Because I'm the one doing the planning? Thank you. Ouch. All right. Touche.

It stresses him out to have plans. Interesting. Something I didn't know about you. I mean, not every time, but it can. All right. Like, if you're on the fence about them and you got to think about them and you got to... You also can very often save money when you plan ahead.

Yeah, you could. Or not be left with your pants down, be caught with your pants down because you're not ready. Always ready. I mean, I hope you plan for the show a little bit.

I mean, when I get here three hours early. Yeah. Okay.

Just saying is all. Planning can also be a valuable tool. I know you're not looking down on those of us who plan.

Of course not. Do your planning. I'm going to leave you out of my plans next time and see how you like that. So, planning. I'm a big planner.

In fact, when I leave this business, whenever it is, I think I'm going to be a professional planner. Is that such a thing? Is that a thing?

Yeah, that's a thing, right? Party planner, wedding planner. No, not for weddings. I'm not going to be a wedding planner and deal with bridezillas.

No, thank you. I'm good. I don't know what other planning, like a party or...

Vacation planning. Thank you very much. There you go.

Look at that. Tell me I'd be great at that. I'm just trying to help you out with your next career.

Are you? That's what you're allowing me to do. You're allowing me to plan you so that I can practice for my next career. You should be thanking me. Should I? Okay.

I'll let you know when I'm at that same point where you are. So Producer J plans nothing. I plan pretty much everything.

Now I do allow that very often, especially in live radio, things do not work according to plan. Football, things do not work according to plan. However, there are things that do go according to plan and there are games that do go according to plan. And I would have to say the game plan, see how I did that? For the Washington commanders was executed to near perfection. So even though Producer J thinks you should just show up and wing it, that plans are very stressful, Ron Rivera and his coaching staff had a very specific plan and boy did it work out.

Not perfectly, but very well. It's just when they started the game with a fumble against the last remaining undefeated team in the NFL, it didn't appear as though it was going to go their way or according to plan. Look at the formation here. Wouldn't be surprised with quarterback sneak. It's a wishbone and the quarterback is under center against the snap drives touchdown on the quarterback sneak as Ross predicted right over the center.

Wow. They cash in on the fumble by the quarterback. And again, a big hit by sweat coming off the edge in the blind side. A one yard touchdown run by Jalen Hurts and twelve twenty one to go in the first and a six nothing lead for the Eagles.

Kevin Harlan on Westwood one. So yes, not even two minutes into this game. Already Washington had given, I mean handed it to the Eagles on a silver platter, had given them a short field and Jalen Hurts gets into the end zone.

But once they recovered and found their footing, it was very clear what the Washington commanders wanted to do. They wanted to control the ball. They wanted to keep it away from Jalen Hurts and I would say a 13 play, seven minute and twenty one second drive, a 16 play, seven minute and four second drive, those in the first half alone.

I would say that's an effective way to win at a game of keep away with the Eagles. Running back Gibson, shot in formation, Philadelphia one. There's the snap, the handoff and it's Gibson diving over the right guard, touchdown Washington. A terrific clock and he dives, Trey Turner led the way, a one yard touchdown plunge by Gibson. Here comes Samuel in motion, shotgun snap, handoff Robinson, spins, digs, leans, lunges, touchdown. The commanders have gotten it in. Robinson would not be denied a one yard touchdown turning spinning run and Washington has taken a lead late in the first half over the undefeated Eagles.

Kevin Harlan on Westwood one. Yes, a 13 play drive, a 16 play drive and in the first half alone, the commanders possessed the ball for 20 minutes. 20 minutes of 30 minutes. Now it's not impossible to score when you only have the ball for a couple of minutes here and a couple minutes there. But the commanders did what they wanted to do which was not allow Jalen Hurts to keep the ball for long stretches of time.

It's after hours with Amy Lawrence on CBS Sports Radio. Certainly we did see the Eagles find their footing. But just as a side note, you recognize that when you're standing around in sports, you're not in a rhythm. Sometimes it takes teams a minute to warm up. It takes them a minute to find a groove, to find a rhythm. That is really the point of warming up before a game, right?

You hope that you're able to lock right in. But when the commanders have got the ball, your defense is out there for seven, eight minutes at a time. And the offense is standing around in a coat because it was cold. It was cold last night in the Northeast.

Not only do your muscles get physically cold, but the rest of you. Just all that momentum that you built up from say your previous drive, well it's gone. And so there's multiple benefits to keeping Jalen Hurts and the offense on the sidelines for long stretches of time.

Though they do still have dynamic playmakers. First and ten from the 11th. Three receivers left. Two right. Hurts. Empty backfield. Looks. Fires.

Completed the five. Breaking the tackle. Walking in. Devontae Smith.

Meryl Reese on Eagles radio. That was a drive that was their second possession in the second half. And do you know it actually took them into the fourth quarter? Because the commanders had the ball for eight and a half minutes for a field goal. They're just stingy.

They don't give you the ball if they're doing what they want to do. And I kind of feel like maybe people, maybe there were people out there who thought the Eagles would run the table. I didn't think they would run the table because that division is too good. And I'm not surprised at all that it was a team in their division that handed them their first loss. Because the commanders, they hate the Eagles. It's a rivalry.

The fans hate each other. They're not intimidated by the atmosphere in Philadelphia because they're there on a regular basis. So this part doesn't surprise me that they go toe to toe and that the Eagles get their best shot. I just am amazed at how well they were able to keep the ball away from the Eagles. So yeah, they go on this extended field goal drive. Their drive for a field goal took longer than their two touchdown drives for heaven's sakes.

Four team plays, 66 yards, eight and a half minutes. It's plotting. It's slow. It's methodical.

But boy is it efficient. So the Eagles finally get the ball back and their second possession of the second half takes them all the way into the fourth quarter. But they do pull within a couple of points.

And then things get a little bit crazy. Taylor Heineke throws an interception. It was on third down.

It was deep. And so it kind of served like a punt. But it was an interception. The Eagles then come back and they have a completed pass play to Dallas Goddard only to see a defender literally grab a handful of face masks and yank his head to the right. So he ends up fumbling. Somehow the officials missed that face mask call.

So that was brutal. And from that face mask slash fumble, there was a field goal, another field goal by the commander. At this point, now it's deep into the fourth quarter. They're up 26-21. And the Eagles have the ball. And this is really, to me, their opportunity in which they made out of other opportunities during the game. So I don't want to say it was their last, it was their only.

It's just this was the one that I felt like was kind of the dagger to the heart. Clock is approaching six to play in the fourth. Eagles are down 26-21. First and 20 with the penalty. Another 27, shotgun snap. Hurts, drops back.

Sets. Lines up. Long pass down the near side. Caught and it died. Falling down Watkins 30. Gets back up.

Hit again. Fumble the ball. It's rolling. And the Washington commanders pick it up with Forrest, who then kicks it to the far sideline and runs out of bounds. The Eagles have fumbled the ball on a long catch.

You want to know how long? That was a 50-yard catch. 50-yard pass play by the time he fumbled it. And so Quez Watkins coughed it up. The ball gets recovered inside the red zone at the Washington 15. That was their last great opportunity to rally. They did have another possession, but it was a three and out.

They went nowhere in 90 seconds. This was actually, this was a 50-yard bomb. And it took them inside the red zone and Quez Watkins coughed it up.

So that was tough. I know a lot of people are focusing on how this game ended. It was a significant moment because it was an opportunity there on third down.

It feels like the commanders had this pegged perfectly, though. And there was no way that they were going to give the ball up, as we saw all game, without a fight. Shotgun snap. A left tackle block.

A crumbling pocket. He's running to the numbers. Now he goes to a knee and goes down to the 38. And he goes down. He was hit.

And there's a flag. And it may be on Philadelphia for a hit on a quarterback who is down. That's what the flag is thrown as Heineke was scrambling and running. Then finally hit the deck but went to a knee, meaning he was down. And a flag was thrown and a hit after the whistle had sounded. We kind of called it a slant for Terry. And it was one of those things, if he's open, give it to him. If not, take a sack. And I was not going to throw it unless he was wide open.

You know, just the rapport of the game. I didn't want anything crazy to happen. So when I took that knee and I saw them kind of still coming at me, I was hoping they would hit me. And sure enough, they did. So it was a mistake on their end. But, hey, we'll live with it. I wish I could have that call back. But at the end of the day, we wish we could have a bunch of calls back. But you know what?

They won. It was, you know, for me, I want to make up for it by what I do next week, how I respond. So I'm going to take that one on a chin. Of course, we all going to just flush it and move on. But I'm definitely going to take that one and make sure, you know, next time, you know, I don't let the team down in a situation like that. That's not at all what losses the football game. What lost you the game? Yeah, shoot.

I mean, that's pretty simple, right? The three turnovers, losses the game, the time of possession, loses you the game. It was, we lost it together.

Offense, defense, special teams, coaching. We lost it together. That's what lost us the game. Nick Sirianni is not blaming Brandon Graham.

And I really hope that the majority of sane, reasonable football fans are not either because that would be dumb. It was a dumb mistake. It was a call that he would like to have back.

He said a moment he'd like to have back. But that's not why the Eagles lost. They had so many opportunities. And again, to me, the Ques Watkins was really their last great opportunity to get that go-ahead touchdown. Again, Kevin Harlan on Westwood 1, and then you hear Taylor Heineke about that late hit and how it was exactly what they were looking for. He said, I was hoping that someone would hit me. And Brandon Graham, he took the bait. He bought into it.

And he, in fact, did fall for the trap. We were on a good run there for a little bit. And then I feel like we kind of let one go last week that we could have won. And to bounce back and go against an undefeated Philly team at their place, they're undefeated Monday night football. And for us to kind of battle like that and get a win like this is huge for us. We have a lot of confidence here going on.

NFC East football, you never know what can happen. And we're just proud of the way we came out today. Defense did a great job getting turnovers. Offense finished when we need to. Special teams did a great job as well. When you win, it feels good, but when you win in this fashion against a on the road Monday night football against a division opponent, I think it's just that much sweeter. It really was, you know, the guy sticking to the plan. Coaches stuck to their plan. You know, we found one of the best ways to slow Jalen Hurts down and keep him off the field.

And we were fortunate that we were able to do that today. C, Ron Rivera is a man after my own heart. He is clearly a planner. Terry McLaurin before that, 128 yards. And he's Scary Terry back at it again with Taylor Heineke. Probably the best option that Taylor has. You want to move the chains?

Well, let's find Scary Terry. And as for the Philadelphia Eagles, this is a game that they'd like to forget. They had three turnovers that were significant. The fourth one was on the last play. And yes, it was a touchdown. A game was essentially over.

So it's back to the drawing board. But inside the NFC East, it's going to be a dogfight. So it's not a terrible thing for them to have a game like this that knocks them back. We've started 8-0 together. We lost this game together. And we're going to move on together.

And we'll get better from this. I think in the end it's about how you respond. Regardless of what's in front of you. How do you respond to this scenario? How do you respond to that scenario? How do you respond to the joy? The feeling of joy?

How do you respond to the feeling of pain? I got a good feeling how we'll respond. They say hungry dogs run faster. And when you win, they say it's hard to keep that hunger. And I think this team is in a position. And now we can dictate how we want to respond to this adversity. This obstacle in our way.

Adversity prepares you to be a champion. But on a lighter note, Hungry Amy definitely does not run faster. Because I feel like I can't focus on the exercise.

All I can focus on is how hungry I am. Does Hungry Jay run faster? I don't think Jay really runs. I mean, theoretically.

No, probably not. I'd be a little sluggish. Alright, so Jalen is clearly a better athlete than all of us. I can't work out when I'm hungry.

But probably the biggest thing is that it's a tough balance. Because unless you wake up and work out immediately, at least in my case, I have a hard time. I can't work out when I'm hungry. No, you don't have that fuel. You don't have the energy to keep you going.

That's right. Hungry dogs run faster. He always does have these words of wisdom. They say hungry dogs run faster. And when you win, they say it's hard to keep that hunger. So then losing. The teams out there that have been losing, they should be running faster. I don't know if that's what we saw from the Raiders. They're not starving.

They're definitely not running faster. Alright, coming up. Well, we've got so much. We've got as much as we can cram in in the next few minutes. We're going to get back to the back news at the back half of the hour. So maybe we'll give you your candidates for TD of the week yet again. And we can hear from the Rookie of the Year candidates too. It's after hours with Amy, candidates, not candidates, winners. They're winners. Winning!

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You are listening to the After Hours Podcast. It's a touchdown Tuesday on After Hours. Firing for the end zone. Touchdown! Touchdown!

Takes it himself to the pylon. Touchdown! One man to beat ten. He's gone! They throw to the end zone. Touchdown!

Pay the guy a miss. He's inside the five. He's to the three, two, one.

Tops! The center's helping into the end zone. Touchdown! To cast your vote for the TD of the Week, head to at After HoursCBS on Twitter, or give us a call at 855-212-4227. The Detroit Lions.

Ten goal Lions from the Chicago 1. Goff out of the gun. Leans in.

Takes the snap. Hands to Jamal Williams. Into the end zone. Touchdown Detroit Lions! They are an extra point away from taking the lead in this game. What a drive by this football team. The Indianapolis Colts. Ryan to throw.

Crossing pattern. He's got the 20 to go. The Colts 10 at the five. And they will score a touchdown with Paris Campbell. That's a 36-yard crossing pattern all the way to the house for Paris Campbell. And the Colts are back on top as Paris finds Pater.

The Green Bay Packers. Aaron Jones with one back and a fake handoff to Jones. Rogers throws left side to the end zone.

He's got a fan. Touchdown! It is the rookie Christian Watson for the third time today. They beat Malik Hooker.

Great protection. Watson uncovered. He's got three touchdown receptions. And the Packers are an extra point away from getting this thing tied.

The Minnesota Vikings. Josh Allen puts Gabe Davis in motion. And Davis is behind Allen. And he tried to push him. He didn't get out of there. He didn't get out.

He did not get out. That's the safety. Give it to us. Give us the safety.

Look at what's taking so long. Oh no. He touched down. He dropped that ball Josh Allen. That ball came loose. Holy cow.

Oh my gosh. There are some incredible candidates for TD of the Week. Lions radio Dan Miller. That was a 91 yard drive that was capped by the Jamal Williams TD with three minutes to go. As the Lions rallied past the Bears.

In fact you'll sense an NFC North theme here. For Green Bay Wayne Larrabee on Packers radio Christian Watson. Not one, not two, but three touchdowns for the rookie receiver. The best game for Aaron Rodgers that we've seen in a while. Indianapolis with Matt Ryan starting again. Paris Campbell scores the winning touchdown with about five minutes to go. This is after Ryan runs for 39 yards to convert a third down. That's Matt Taylor on Colts radio.

And finally Paul Allen who will be on our show come tomorrow night along with Pete Burchich. The Vikings radio team. One of the crazier moments that we've seen all season. As the Vikings fail to get in with their own goal line offense. But then they recover a Josh Allen fumble in the end zone for the go ahead score in Orchard Park. It's after hours with Amy Lawrence on CBS Sports Radio.

And actually we're going to stick with that game for our Defensive Player of the Week. It's sponsored by the Navy Federal Credit Union who proudly serves the Armed Forces DoD. Veterans and their families. Their members are the mission.

Learn more at NavyFederal.org. I wish it was a touchdown because then it would be part of our TD of the week. It wasn't. But it was just as impressive. Patrick Peterson not once but twice intercepting Josh Allen. And the last time, the second time was in OT.

Ended the game after the Vikings had gotten their field goal up and through the uprights. And Patrick Peterson's been around for a long time. It's just his second year with the Vikings. He has 32 career interceptions. Three this season. And two of them coming in what is clearly the biggest game of the year for the Vikings. And man did he have Josh Allen pegged in that moment too which was really impressive. Do we want to hear from him?

We do. We want to hear from the veteran Patrick Peterson about his craft and about the moment that preserved this Vikings win and got them to 8-1. That was a really big play obviously to close out the game and get the victory for us. But they came out and just ran a simple Dover scheme, Dover concept with the number one receiver running the deep end. The tight end motioned over from the three receiver side to create a two by two and try to clear out the safety. And the quarterback kind of knows in red zone a lot of teams play quarters in that situation. And with me understanding where the ball was, being away from it, it's hard for the quarterback to throw it back into the field.

It's always easier for the quarterback to throw the ball coming back into his vision. So I knew that and I just undercut the dig and sealed the game. I mean this is a veteran with a ton of wisdom who is giving us a peek behind the curtain. What he saw, what he was expecting.

Manny was watching some film, was he not? And that's a great example for the younger Vikings defenders. I just undercut the dig and sealed the game. That's it. Boom. It's a big play. Caused him to dig.

Seriously. And sealed the dig. Well, he was talking about the particular, the dig route is what he was referring to, I bet. Oh, I thought he was talking about Stefan Diggs and he calls him the dig.

No, no, no. Wait, listen to it again at the end. I knew that and I just undercut the dig and sealed the game. No, he was referring to it. You goof.

You made me listen to it again just so I could be sure. I didn't have any questions until you laughed about it. Oh, he's going to call him the dig.

He was referring to the dig route. Oh, that's respect. I'm not laughing at you.

I'm laughing near you, I swear. Oh my gosh. All right. On that note, coming up, we've got your QB news. I just got to let it go. We're going to move on. There's no way to recover from the dig.

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And learn how to manage them. Listen and subscribe to Your Weirdest Fears on the Odyssey app or wherever you get your podcasts. Listen to the After Hours podcast. Touchdown! Joe Burrow and the Bengals. The Holmes fires for the end zone, caught. Touchdown! Kansas City.

And off to Ekorgen. No, Herbert keeps it in zone. Touchdown! Chargers. Herbert with his second of the day.

Here's the snap. Josh going to keep it himself and run it again inside the five. Into the end zone. Touchdown Buffalo. Josh Allen, nine-yard touchdown run.

The Bills respond and then some. It's time for QB News on After Hours. Seems like the NFC South is dominating our QB News on this edition of the show. But we've got a couple of other QBs to throw in there as well.

We're going to launch right in since it's busy and top of the hour is looming large. Matt Ryan started suddenly for the Indianapolis Colts. In fact, nobody knew until Sunday when they were in Las Vegas.

When did Matt Ryan find out he would be the starter again for the Colts under Jeff Saturday? Like everybody, it was a whirlwind of a week. And Thursday was my first opportunity to get out and practice. And I didn't really know, but I felt like if I could put together, you know, a good week. And that week only being two days, maybe there was a chance. I didn't know.

I didn't know. And so really Friday afternoon, started to get a feel for how it might go. And then he kind of talked to everybody and let us know where we're at.

But I mean, I just, you know, when he asked me about it earlier in the week, I really just said, you know, I only know one way to do it. And it was a great return from Matt Ryan. No turnovers, no sacks. That's huge. If you're talking about this veteran quarterback, obviously had the scrambles.

We got to see the wheels like an Olympic sprinter or something. And then the big touchdown to Paris Campbell with five minutes to go, which is a TD of the Week candidate. It's after hours with Amy Lawrence here on CBS Sports Radio.

All right. Shifting our attention to the NFC South yet again, the Panthers are making a quarterback change. We had some reports over the weekend.

MRI on P.J. revealed a high ankle sprain. So Baker will be the starter this week, along with Sam being the backup. And very excited to get the guys back in the building. They're coming off a bye week. The Panthers will have Baker Mayfield as their starter.

And hello, Sam Darnell. We are back to where we started. He's healthy enough again that he will be the backup to Baker.

All right. If there was any stability there for the Panthers moving forward the rest of the way. And speaking of stability, we may not have it in New Orleans either. Dennis Allen, he may be on the hot seat himself. He was asked about a quarterback change, even as he said he's done losing and everything is on the table. I think we got to evaluate that. You know, I think that's something that we need to look at. Yeah. And Jamis is a candidate to be ready to play. I believe so.

All right. Danny Dalton throws two interceptions and really had zero success over the weekend. It's not a team he likes to play or has had success against. Remember, he had a long tenure in the AFC North with the Bengals. It seems like the Steelers have got him pegged.

And so they were able to pick him off twice. They didn't have a lot of success offensively. And now Dennis Allen is talking about going back to Jamis Winston, who is healthy but lost his job to Danny Dalton. When you have more than one quarterback, you have no quarterbacks. In the NFC South, they do have a team that's at 500. Finally, that's the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. Back-to-back wins, they definitely have a quarterback. And Tom Brady still glowing on his podcast Monday evening.

It's called Let's Go with Jim Gray. And they were talking about making history in Germany. It was electric. We got there before the game and there was a huge tailgate out front. It was electric from the start. We ran out for pregame warm-ups an hour before the game and the stadium was basically full. I couldn't believe it. It felt like not quite a Super Bowl, but that type of electricity where everyone was just super excited to see the game. So we all felt it. And it was an incredible stadium and playing where Baron Munich plays. Just being a part of the whole first opportunity of playing the NFL game in Germany was incredibly unique.

And I think everyone who played is going to remember that game for the rest of their lives. Ziga. You know what ziga means? Nope. Help me out. Goat in German. I did not know that and I never refer to myself as that.

So I'm glad I don't know what that is. Well, that was all over many signs in the stadium. There was quite a lot to see and I thought it was a very... The crowds were so enthusiastic. I mean, there were jerseys.

I saw one had a Pittsburgh Steelers jersey on and a Jets hat. Yikes. I love that exchange with Jim Gray.

And Tom's like, I'm really glad I did not know what ziga means in German. I don't refer to myself as that. Could you imagine if he walked around and referred to himself as the goat?

He said, hey, you all need to refer to me as the goat. You can't do that. No. That sounds like something Floyd Mayweather would do, though. Accurate.

It's after hours. CBS Sports Radio. One more with Brady I could not resist. The foiled trick play in which the second time he lined up as a wide receiver. The direct snap goes to Leonard Fournette. It all goes horribly wrong. Brady falls down.

The ball is picked. Yada, yada, yada. How about that Philly special?

That seemed to work pretty well yesterday. That was a shot, Jim. That was a shot.

That Philly special was not very special. And I think the thing about it was when the ball was in there, I didn't obviously know I was going to catch it. But I tried to go up to at least tackle and try to keep the ball, and then I fell on my face. So in a lot of ways, embarrassment and shame at the same time on the same play.

I won't forget that play. And I haven't had many receptions in my career, so I thought it would be pretty cool to get one in Germany. But it only seems right that the country with no speed limit on the Audubon got to see me run routes as a wide receiver, which was very, very slow.

It contradicted a lot of things from my speed to what actually goes on in the road fair in Germany. I'm telling you, maybe it makes me sound ridiculous, but I really enjoy this podcast. It's a different Tom Brady that we do not get during games. He's not throwing tablets, but he very often is self-deprecating. He makes fun of himself a lot.

And he also gives you insight that you don't get anywhere else. Now, they don't talk about his personal life a ton, though he has talked about that some with Jim. And Jim teases him.

Jim gives him crap. And so there's a lot more with him about the winning outside America and how he needs to play in the CFL now so he can add that country to his list. There's really good stuff. Also, him talking about the Justin Jefferson catch as well as the Jeff Saturday hire is interesting. So maybe we'll grab some more from Let's Go since I'm now a Tom Brady, Jim Gray podcast disciple.

It's good audio. It's after hours here on CBS Sports Radio. One more. Jimmy Ward does not care how much we love quarterbacks. In fact, he hates them, and he thinks we should do away with QB news. He tried to get Justin Herbert in a moment of weakness and vulnerability when the Niners were playing the Chargers Sunday night. Nowadays, you can't touch a quarterback, but I was trying to kill him. I wish he would have stood up two times.

I wish he would have never slid if I could let him feel me. We don't like quarterbacks running the ball, don't run it. We play another running quarterback, Kyla Murray.

I hope I can catch him. Don't run it. I don't got no sympathy for another quarterback on the opposing team. Don't run it. Please keep that. That has got to be one of the greatest pieces of audio I've heard in a really long time. I hate quarterbacks.

Don't run it. You guys remember the video? It was on Instagram, I think, a few weeks ago, maybe a couple months ago, where the emu was headbutting the camera. Remember, it's on a farm somewhere, and there was a woman who was talking to him. His name is Emmanuel.

Do you remember it? Emmanuel, don't do it. Don't do it.

So she has an Instagram account devoted to her farm, and she puts the camera up everywhere, but the emu keeps following them around, and every time she looks away, he would try to headbutt the camera or knock the camera over. Her classic line is, Emmanuel, don't do it. Don't do it.

We use the audio here on the show because it was so funny. That's what Jimmy Ward is saying. Don't do it. Don't run it. Don't run the football. I don't got no sympathy for another quarterback on the opposing team. Don't run it.

Don't do it. Oh, my gosh. All right, I promise you we can hear from the American League and National League Rookies of the Year. Congratulations to Julio Rodriguez, as well as Michael Harris.

So from Seattle and Atlanta, two teams that made the playoffs, though they did not ultimately get to the World Series. But, yeah, these dynamic rookies, it was really cool to see them on the Major League stage. They really mean the world. They really mean the world to me. I feel like without these two people, especially right here, it wouldn't be me. It wouldn't be Julio. I wouldn't be the kid that just loved playing the game and tried to do the right thing just because of them. I feel like if they didn't have that in my life, I'm really proud of the parents I have, and I'm happy because of all the love and all the support that I showed them.

There's a lot going through my mind. I mean, just to be recognized for it. I mean, let alone not even thinking I would be up in the league this year and then to be honored for an award this special. I mean, it's named after Hank Aaron. Having guys like David Justice, Rafael Krakow, Laconia and Timbre win the same award and me being the same bracket with them is kind of crazy, me being the greatest fan and watching them. So, yeah, you guys just missed the screaming in the background. So, yeah, it was crazy.

That's really cool. Julio Rodriguez grew up in a small Dominican town of 20,000 people. It's right near the Haitian border, and he's now got the huge contract as the Mariners' dynamic young center fielder.

And then kind of cool about Michael Harris, not only was the family screaming, but he grew up a Braves fan and just beat out his teammate Spencer Strider to win the NL Rookie of the Year. It's after hours with Amy Lawrence on CBS Sports Radio. If you missed our show last hour or you weren't with us last hour, we were talking about the tragedy that took place at the University of Virginia, the football team losing three members of its team and two more in the hospital after a shooting on Sunday night. We did hear from the president of the university, Jim Ryan, on Monday. This is an unimaginably sad day for our community. The entire university community is grieving this morning. My heart is broken for the victims and their families and for all those who knew and loved them, and they are all in my prayers. As I've said before, when I see our students, I see my own kids, and I cannot imagine anything worse for a parent than to lose a child. There will be questions that will have no answers, and it's not because I don't want to tell you, it's because we just don't know.

So I hope you'll be patient with that and trust that when we do know, you'll know. That's the police chief there at the University of Virginia, as well as the president of the university, Jim Ryan, before him. Three Cavaliers football players shot and killed. Junior receiver Lavel Davis of Dorchester, South Carolina, junior receiver Devin Chandler of Huntersville, North Carolina, and junior defensive end and linebacker Deshaun Perry of Miami.

And even as they were hosting this press conference, a former player, Christopher Darnell Jones, was finally apprehended and brought into custody as the alleged shooter. We'll let you know more when we've got it. For our CBS Sports Radio. Download the Odyssey app today.

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