When The Answer Is Denied

We all rejoice when God answers a prayer in a way that's unmistakable. A new job when unemployed. Healing from a long disease.

Reconciliation after years of separation. But there are prayers we can pray for which the answer is no. The apostle Paul begged the Lord three times to relieve his thorn in the flesh, and was told that he had to bear it in the sufficient grace of God. From Chicago, this is The Moody Church Hour, a weekly service of worship and teaching with Pastor Erwin Lutzer. Today we continue a series on the triumph of unanswered prayer, and our focus on this broadcast comes from the book of 2 Corinthians on how to handle times when the answer is denied.

The Moody Choir comes now to open today's service. Here You are God I come to obey You You are love I come to draw near You are love I come to draw near You are holy I come in silence You are my Lord I come to keep You are God I come to obey You You are love I come to draw near You are love I come to draw near Will you join me as we pray together and then we shall stand to sing. Our Father we thank you today that you are holy. And we come into your presence recognizing that all access to you must be mediated through Jesus Christ our Lord. And today as we think of boasting and boasting in the right things we're reminded of the words of the Apostle Paul God forbid that I should boast except for the cross of the Lord Jesus Christ by which the world is crucified unto me and I unto the world. We thank you today that because of the cross you have displayed in our lives awesome power and boundless grace. We receive these with gratitude and accept our worship we pray in the blessed name of Jesus.

Amen. Awesome power, boundless grace. Open Father, open grace.

Truth and love are found in your heart of all. Righteousness around your throne. Holy, holy, holy on this night. Awesome power, boundless grace. Heaven and heaven know your ways.

Truth and love are found in your heart of all. Righteousness around your throne. Holy, holy, holy on this night. Holy, holy, holy on this night. Holy, holy, holy on this night. Holy, holy, holy Lord God Almighty, early in the morning blossom shall rise to be. Holy, holy, holy, merciful and mighty, God in three verses, blessed is he.

Holy, holy, holy, all the darkness find me. Holy eye of sin broken, thy glory made us see. Holy, how I know thee, there is a place by thee, where there's plenty now of me, Holy, holy, holy Lord God Almighty, on earth shall praise thy name, hear thy silence sing. Holy, holy, holy, merciful and mighty, God in three verses, blessed is he. This is the word of the Lord from Jeremiah chapter 9 and 1 Corinthians chapter 1.

Please join me as I read the ball print. Thus says the Lord, let not the wise man boast in his wisdom, let not the mighty man boast in his might, let not the rich man boast in his riches, but let him who boasts boast in this, that he understands and know me, that I am the Lord who practices steadfast love, justice and righteousness in the earth, for in these things are the light declares the Lord. For considering your calling brothers, not many of you were wise according to worldly standards, not many were powerful, not many were of noble birth, but God shows that it's foolish in the world to shame the wise. God shows what is weak in the world to shame the strong. God shows what is low and despised in the world.

Even things that are not to bring to nothing things that are, so that no human being might boast in the presence of God. And because of him you are in Christ Jesus, who became to us wisdom from God, righteousness and sanctification and redemption, so that as it is written, let the one who boasts boast in the Lord. How deep the Father's love for us, how grist beyond all measure, that he should give his only Son, to make a wretch his treasure. How great the pain of searing walls, the Father turns his face away, as wounds which mar the chosen one, bring many sounds to glory. Behold the man upon the cross, my sin upon his shoulders, ashamed I hear my mocking voice, call out among the stars. It was my sin that held him there, until the cross I found theirs. His dying breath has brought me back, I know that it's clear.

I fear not most in any fear, for this sorrow is done, but I am most in Jesus Christ, the resurrection. Why should I gain from his reward? I cannot give an answer, but this I know with all my heart, his wounds have made my rise from him. Why should I gain from his reward?

I cannot give an answer, but this I know with all my heart, his wounds have made my rise from him. I love you, Lord, and I lift my voice to worship you, all my soul rejoice, say, Joy, my King, in what you give. Make me a sweet, sweet sound in your ear. I love you, Lord, and I lift my voice to worship you, all my soul rejoice, say, Joy, my King, in what you give.

Make me a sweet, sweet sound in your ear. Jesus, the Son of my soul, let me to thy new song, to thy new song, while the Lord in your waters flow, while the tempest feels, still is mine. Hide me, O my Savior, hide me, O my Savior, till the storm of life is cast, save me to thy faith and life, O receive my soul, my soul and life, my soul and life. Let us praise with ease the praise to cover all eyes, set adored in streams above, made and deep in glory, glory. Love like a fountain of light, free that we take off within, spring now up within my heart, rise to all eternity, to all eternity. If you were to ask people why they don't pray seriously and why prayer isn't really that big a part in their lives, I believe that 90 or 95 percent would say it's because of unanswered prayer.

That's the reason. It can happen even when you're small, little, a little girl prayed that the doll that was in her arms would become a real baby. And when that didn't happen, she was disappointed with God. Aren't you glad that God often doesn't give us what we ask for?

The teenager who prays that his teeth will be straightened out so that he won't have to wear braces and then discovers that God doesn't answer begins to think, well, what is there to this business of prayer? But usually, of course, the issue is much more severe and much greater. It has to do with a young mother dying of cancer. It has to do with Johnny Erickson Tada in a diving accident in the late 60s, existing for 40 years by now, I'm sure, in a wheelchair. That's what it has to do with. It has to do with families and abuse and all of those things. But at the end of the day, people would say it's because God doesn't answer prayer.

Why should I bother? Well, there's a very interesting and famous unanswered prayer in 2 Corinthians, 2 Corinthians chapter 12, that I want you to turn to. And if you didn't bring your Bible, there's one there in the pew that you might be able to use. This is not 1 Corinthians. This is 2 Corinthians chapter 12. The Apostle Paul was caught up to the third heaven. He was caught up to paradise. And there in paradise, God gave him specific revelations that were wonderful and great. In fact, Paul says, I heard things that I'm not even going to tell you about.

How different he is from some of the folks that we see from time to time on TV, who'd only be too quick to tell you what new revelation they've received. Paul says that I had this experience. He's talking about himself in the opening verses. He says, 14 years ago, I was caught up to the third heaven, verse 2.

I don't know whether I was in the body or out of the body. I know that this man was caught up into paradise. And he says in verse 4, he heard things that cannot be told which a man may not utter. So the Apostle Paul says that in light of this, I received so many revelations. And of course, he wrote 13 or 14 books of the New Testament.

The book of Hebrews is disputed as to who the author is. But Paul wrote a good part of the New Testament. And Paul says that if I were to tell people of the revelation, and if they know that to me this revelation is given, they are going to honor me so much.

And when they honor me so much, I'm going to be tempted to begin to think that I'm special. And so God says, Paul, what I'm going to do is to give you a thorn in the flesh to keep you humble. That's why we pick up the text in verse 7, and I'm going to read. So to keep me from being too elated by the surpassing greatness of the revelations, a thorn was given me in the flesh, a messenger of Satan to harass me, to keep me from being too elated.

Three times I pleaded with the Lord about this, that it should leave me. But he said, my grace is sufficient for you, for my power is made perfect in weakness. Therefore, I will boast all the more gladly because of my weaknesses, so that the power of Christ may rest upon me. For the sake of Christ, then I'm content with weaknesses, insults, hardships, persecutions, calamities. For when I am weak, then I am strong. Don't you want to say wow after reading that?

A couple of introductory questions. First of all, what is this thorn in the flesh, the Greek word scholopsis? What is it? What is the thorn? Well, it's a stake. And it was the kind of stake, you know, upon which people were impaled.

It was a horrendous way to die. This leads people to think that maybe the thorn was a physical ailment, maybe an eye problem. There is some indication that Paul had problems with his eyes. Maybe malaria, which evidently brings a pain to your head.

It's like someone taking a hot iron bar and just pressing it against your forehead, someone has said. Maybe it was malaria. John MacArthur goes to great lengths to try to show that actually the thorn in the flesh was very probably a false apostle indwelt by a messenger of Satan, namely a demon who stirred up opposition against Paul. So the thorn in the flesh is not defined so that we can insert our own thorn into that particular slot. So the thorn may be a health problem. The thorn also may be a person.

I hope it's not the one whom you married, but it could be a person. And we've all known what it is like from time to time to having people who are thorns in the flesh. Paul gives us a lot of latitude. He says I'm content with weaknesses, insults, hardships, persecutions, and calamities.

That pretty well covers what the thorn might be. Now normally we don't vote here at The Moody Church as to what I say. I simply assume that you accept what I say.

I hope that it's biblical. And if you disagree with me, that's no problem. You come up later and you have the opportunity to ask my forgiveness for disagreeing with me.

But today we are going to vote. Let me ask you this question. How many of you would say that the thorn was from Satan? Raise your hands. How many of you would say the thorn is from Satan? How many of you would say that the thorn was from God? Raise your hands.

Even more hands for that. How many of you have no opinion at all about theological matters? Now here's the most important question. How many of you raised your hand twice saying that it was both from Satan and from God?

Could I see your hands please? You're the theologians. You're the theologians.

Of course it's both. The immediate cause, the text says, was a messenger of Satan. But the ultimate cause is God.

It was given to me of God to have a thorn in the flesh. If you don't understand the relationship between God and Satan in these kinds of trials, you're never going to be able to exercise the kind of faith that you need, the kind of faith that I'm going to describe at the end of this message. Just like Job was his trial from God or the devil. Well, it is the devil who did all of the terrible things to his family, etc.

But what does Job say? The Lord gave and the Lord took away because the ultimate cause is God. Satan cannot wiggle unless God gives him permission to wiggle. And therefore, this thorn was from God. Well now let's look at the prayer itself. The prayer itself. First of all, the specific request. I'm here in verse 8. He says, verse 8, three times I pleaded with the Lord about this, that it should leave me. What do we say about this request?

First of all, it was very specific. God, you have given this to me, whether it's a person or a health issue. You've given it to me, Lord, and I ask that it might leave me for your glory. And God, you'll get all the credit. I'll talk about you as a result of this. You will receive the glory.

Do it, Lord. It was specific. It was persistent. I pleaded with the Lord. Same word that's used in the New Testament for people who came to Jesus wanting to be healed. And they pled with Jesus to be healed. Paul says, I am pleading with God.

Take it away. The first two times, God said nothing. Dead silence from heaven. But then the third time, after praying the third time, God spoke to the Apostle Paul and gave him the reply. And the reply, in effect, was, Paul, the answer is no. Now, God didn't say that directly, but God clearly said that, that you will keep the thorn. But that's not the end of the story.

That's not the end of the story. God never leaves us stranded. He never leaves us without what we need to endure a trial. Now, notice what God says. He says, my grace, I'm in verse 9 now, is sufficient for you, for my power is made perfect in weakness. God says, Paul, I've got something else for you. I've got grace. Grace.

Paul thinks to himself, surely there's a misunderstanding. And I asked you, Lord, very clearly, we laid this on the line, that my thorn was to leave. God says, keep your thorn, but I have grace. And grace is heavenly strength for the need of the moment. Grace is a river that runs to the soul that brings healing. Grace is the river that runs to the soul and also provides calmness and a sense of acceptance and hope and even gladness, as Paul says he has after the answer. Grace is indeed given to us. God says, I am going to take grace and it's going to be like an elastic band that is going to stretch over your thorn and over your difficulty in such a way that you are going to be able to endure it.

That's what I'm going to give you instead. Grace is a wonderful pillow upon which many a weary traveler has laid his head. So God says, I'm going to give you grace and I'm going to give you strength. My grace is sufficient for you. My power is made perfect in weakness. My power is completed. Paul, if people want to honor me and give me glory, you have to be weak.

And so I sent you this thorn so that when you are weak, then my power will be displayed and my strength will be made complete. Now, when I was out on the farm many years ago, when I grew up as a child, we used to actually use the catalog. People don't use catalogs nowadays, but we used to order things and we'd send the order away in a few weeks later. It would come back and sometimes the company would substitute something. For example, if you ordered a sweater and they were out of sweaters, they might send you a light jacket and hope that you are satisfied with the substitution. They usually did not say we won't fill the order.

They filled it with something else. And God is saying to the Apostle Paul here, he's saying, I am saying no to your request, but I'm giving you something else. I am not indifferent to my answer.

When God says no, it isn't just a plain no, it's always no, but there's something else that I have in mind. Grace is going to be given to you. I think of Joni Eareckson, to whom I referred earlier. This young woman has blessed millions. Many of you know about her because she has Joni and friends and that marvelous ministry.

And she's been here to The Moody Church many times. And you remember in that diving accident, there she is, she becomes a quadriplegic. And after it happened, as just a college student, she wanted to die. She hoped and begged that people would give her some kind of pill so that she could commit suicide and get out of her misery.

But nobody did. And so she went on living. And then because she was a Christian, she learned that there were those who believed in faith healing. She attended the faith healing services. And she attended these with hope and encouragement from friends. And the passage of scripture that she zeroed in on more particularly than any other was the fifth chapter of the Gospel of John, where Jesus heals the paralytic that was there along the pool by the pool of Bethesda.

And he was there for 38 years. And Jesus comes along and says, take up your pallet and walk. That was her passage. But even though she had faith, even though this was her passage that she would be healed, the healing never came. One time at Founders Week a few years ago, she was here at the church and she told this story.

And I could not even keep back the tears. She said, recently I was in Israel. This is now 40 years later, 35 or 40 years later. She said, I was in Israel. And she said, I went and I was wheeled next to the pool of Bethesda. And she said, when I looked at that pool, I thanked God that he had not healed me in those 35 years, because of all the grace and because of all the ministry he gave me as a result of my infirmity. God says, Johnny, I'm not going to heal you, but I'm not going to just leave you there hopelessly.

I am going to give you grace. I think of a family that has a child with a huge disability. I won't even describe it to you. It's not just a normal disability, but far beyond that. And how these parents lovingly take care of the child in exasperation. And they watch the child suffer. But there's nothing they can do for that suffering.

They have the best of medical care. You say, oh, Pastor Lutzer, do you have the grace to would you have the grace to look after a child like that? I don't have that kind of grace.

I don't. But hear me carefully. If God had given us a child like that, I believe that God would have supplied the grace. Grace comes in the midst of our need. And God says, Paul, the answer is no, but it isn't a harsh, uncaring no. It is grace that I am giving you. So what is Paul's response now? We've looked at the request.

We've looked at the reply. What is Paul's response? He says in the middle of verse nine now, therefore, I will boast all the more because of my weaknesses so that the power of Christ may rest upon me. He says, if I receive grace, I also receive power.

I accept it. I've prayed that I might be rid of it, but now I've made friends with it. Now, theologically, you need to think very carefully at this point. Remember that this thorn was a messenger of Satan, a demon in point of fact. If Paul had lived today with some preachers, he would have been simply told, oh, you just need to ask that demon to banish because we have authority over all evil spirits and we're told that we can even cause all the evil spirits in Chicago to leave, etc.

We do have some authority, but our authority is not unlimited. And there are times when God says, I want you to live with your infirmity. As far as we know, Paul died with it. But my strength is going to be perfected in that weakness. And Paul says, the demon who is clearly my enemy, the demon who wants to destroy me, who is thoroughly, irredeemably evil, becomes an asset to me because of what God is going to do in my life as a result of his persecution and harassment.

Wow. That's what the apostle Paul says. It has often been said, you know, that what cannot be cured must be endured. Paul is well beyond that. Look at what the text says. He says, I will boast all the more gladly of my weakness.

This isn't simply a stoic endurance. Paul says, if through my weakness the power of Christ is seen, if through my weakness grace is given, then I can understand that I was asking for a kernel, but it is God who gave me a harvest. I was asking for a trinket. And God says, Paul, I want to give you true wealth. I want to give you something far better than deliverance from your thorn. I want to show you my grace and my strength.

And you'll notice that he says, I will receive then God's power. Now, there are two ways to make a burden bearable. Let's suppose that someone were to ask you to carry 100 pounds.

I don't know about you, but I doubt very, very much that I can carry 100 pounds. And quite frankly, I don't want to try. But let's suppose that you can't do it.

And there are two ways to get us to do it. One way is to lighten the load. God comes along and says, it's no longer 100 pounds, but now it's 30.

And I say, OK, 30 I think I can do. God lightens the load. Sometimes God does that in our lives. He lightens the load. But there are other times when God simply says, I'm going to ask you to carry the load, but I'm going to give you the shoulders upon which you can carry it. I'm going to strengthen you. So God says, I will either either lighten the load or I will supply the grace for you to bear it.

And so the Apostle Paul acknowledges that. Now, what is the bottom line? Why should we be changed forever? Because we've heard this message. Why should this message be so transforming that we never look at our thorn in the flesh quite the same again?

Let me give you some life changing lessons. First of all, with burdens come blessings. God doesn't willy nilly give you a burden without giving you grace and giving you a blessing.

There is a reason why that thorn will not go away. There is a reason for it. And God says, yes, I have a reason. And the reason is grace and strength, perfect in weakness.

Hudson Taylor said these interesting words. He says, it matters little to my servant whether I send him to buy a few things or more expensive articles. In either case, I pay the bill. God says, you walk close with me. Whether your burden is heavy or light, I will be there to meet your need. And my grace will be sufficient.

It will fill up what it is that you need to walk with me. So that's the first lesson. The first lesson is that burdens can bring blessings and do bring blessings. Secondly, burdens are specifically chosen for us.

They are specifically chosen for us. Notice that the apostle Paul says, there was given to me a thorn in the flesh. That's in verse seven. Well, thank you very much, Lord, for your gift. I was expecting something else for Christmas, quite frankly.

God says, Paul, this burden is for you, specifically. You know, all of my suits are bought just off the rack. But many years ago, more than 20 years ago, I was in Hong Kong, that great and wonderful city. And somebody convinced me to have a suit tailor-made. So I had that suit tailor-made, and it fit for a while.

But afterwards, as the years went by, it began to shrink so horribly that there was no possible way that I could get into it, try as I might. So I think we've given it away. But here's the point I want to make. When God sends you a trial, it is not one just off the rack. It is tailor-made for you. Remember, you are number one on God's list of things to take care of in the universe. And so it is apportioned to you. Paul, it is given to you that you have this thorn in the flesh. This is yours.

I have another one for others. But this is yours, Paul. Do you realize that God is specifically interested in you? He's not just interested in the body of Christ somehow namelessly. He's interested in the body, but he's interested in individuals. Earlier, the choir sang so beautifully, Jesus, lover of my soul, let me to thy bosom fly.

My, how I love those words. Because that's what it's all about at the end of the day. It's relationship with Christ and he is the lover of your soul.

If you know him. And so what God wants is for us to walk with him and to know that burdens are specifically chosen by God for us. And then number three, most importantly, you can be changed forever if you listen carefully. Sufficient grace comes with sufficient faith. Sufficient grace comes with sufficient faith, because here's what some of you are saying. You are saying to me, be honest now, I can read your minds like the innards of a clock.

Be honest with me. You know what you're saying? You're saying God's grace isn't sufficient for me. You're like a widow by the name of Doris, who loved her husband and he dropped over dead in his 40s. And she looked at other women in the church who weren't madly in love with their husbands and said to herself, why mine?

She parked her Buick in the church parking lot, dried her tears, came into church, sang the songs, did all the right things, got back into her car and wept all the way home saying, your grace is not sufficient, your grace is not sufficient, your grace is not sufficient. Some of you are going through bitter divorces. Some of you are in situations which, if we knew the details, we would be amazed at the pain that is represented in this room and in our wider audience on the radio and internet and what have you. We would be amazed at the pain out there and there's some people saying, God's grace is simply not sufficient.

And the reason is because, because, and I'm not being judgmental because I've been there. I've been there thinking God's grace wasn't sufficient. But the reason is because you and I simply do not have the kind of faith that embraces what God gives us and accepts it as from his loving hand, even if the devil is involved. And that becomes more complicated. I wish I could talk about that more. I don't want you to be misunderstood. We should not have anything to do with the devil and I do believe in rebuking him.

But instead of being able to accept, accept our thorn and most gladly rejoice in our infirmities because we don't have the faith. What happened to Doris? She went into a prayer room in a time when the church was hot with revival.

She stayed there an hour and that's about a good length of time to get rid of the garbage, about an hour. And she spilled out all of her anger at God, her loneliness. And she said, these are her words, cart-fulls of self-pity. And she came out and she used to give her testimony in churches around the country. And her theme was God's grace is sufficient. You see, what you and I won't do, we will fret with God, we'll pray the same prayers over again and then we investigate to see whether or not God is doing anything. And it goes on and on and on. And what we will not do is commit and accept.

That we will not do. God says, you know, for you, my grace doesn't appear to be sufficient. In the fall, I flew from Chicago to Frankfurt on American Airlines. Once you're on the runway and you're going up into the sky, you can holler, you can press all the buttons, and it doesn't make any difference. Nobody's stopping for you at this point.

You're committed. There's a story of a woman who, for the first time flying, was frightened to death, looked out the window constantly at the motors, constantly fretting about the motors until a young man said to her, lady, if you want to sleep, I'll watch over the motors for you for a while. So let us suppose that I'm on American Airlines and I say to the stewardess, stewardess, I think that maybe, because now we're beginning to cross the ocean, I think that the pilots might fall asleep. Do you think, would you go and check to see if the pilots are awake?

You know, years ago, before security was such a big issue, that was easier than it is today. And I can imagine that she goes and she checks and she says, you know, all three of them are awake. And I say, oh, okay. But a half an hour passes and I say to myself, you know, people have fallen asleep in a half an hour.

I've fallen asleep in less than a half an hour and if one falls asleep, the other will get drowsy and all three of them might be asleep. Waitress, I mean, not waitress, but flight attendant. You know, you're laughing, but they sometimes do the duties of a waitress, you know. I say, would you check to see whether or not the pilots are awake? And she does it again and she comes back. 20 minutes later, I can't ask her to do that again because she'll think I'm a little crazy. So what I say is, could you tell me what time the flight arrives in Frankfurt? And she gives me the time and then I say, well, you know, that's good, that's good. And are we on time?

Yeah, we're on time. Well, you know, since you and I are talking, would you just check to see if the pilots are awake? Doesn't take long until she comes to me and says, look, I'll make you a deal.

I'll pour you a cup of coffee if you go outside and drink it. And what she says, if she's really honest, is you are insulting our pilots and you and I insult God day after day after day. We commit something to him and then when things go bad and they get worse before they get better, we say, well, now what's God doing?

So we wake up early and we spend three or four hours worrying before we get out of bed. And then we don't see God doing this and we continue to pray, pray, pray, and our prayers are nothing but an expression of our unbelief because we refuse to commit and we refuse to accept and to say this has come to me from God. Thank you, God. I committed into your hands. And I'm going to leave it there. And I'm not going to be checking every day to see whether God's awake and whether he's doing anything. God is saying to many of us, myself included, you let me do it. You wait on me and I will work for you.

That's what the Bible says. And I will work for you. I'll work it out. But it has to be my timetable.

It has to be my agenda. And what you are doing is you're coming to me with your timetable, your agenda, your self-will, your desire to run your life. And then what you're saying is, where's God's grace in all of this? Paul says, okay, it is a messenger of Satan. Okay, it does harass me.

That's the word in the text. But I asked God and God said no. But God says, Paul, I've got something better for you. My grace is sufficient for you. My strength is perfect in weakness. And Paul says, I am so wholeheartedly committed to God, I believe in the greatness of God that this couldn't happen apart from his will, even if the devil is involved, that I'm going to accept it and I'm going to thank God for it.

Most gladly, I will therefore glory in my infirmities. And I'm not going to insult God by telling him that he's not doing anything. I'm going to leave that with him. So where are you today? What part of your circumstances or people have you not accepted? What stands between you and God today? Your husband?

Give him to God and then say good riddance. Your circumstance? You committed to God.

You're on the plane and the pilot never slumbers or sleeps. Father, we ask in the name of Jesus that you'll make us people of faith. So often we've insulted you because we've refused, refused to give up the control of our lives.

And then you've not come on board and we've blamed you. Give us, Father, that sense of faith that says, Lord, as I wait on you, I'll let you work for me. Oh, we need that, Lord. Granted, we ask in Jesus' blessed name. Amen. Amen. We're going to sing again 150, awesome power, boundless grace.

150, we'll sing again, awesome power. On today's Moody Church Hour, Pastor Lutzer took us to 2 Corinthians to show us how best to deal with those times in prayer when the answer is denied. This has been the fifth of six messages on the triumph of unanswered prayer. Next week, Dr. Lutzer wraps up this series by going to the book of Hebrews. Here, he'll give guidance on what to do when the answer is disappointment.

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